3 Vegan Burgers Like You’ve NEVER seen

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  • Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024

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  • @dillonhansen71
    @dillonhansen71 4 года назад +177

    I love that the Sauce Stache channel is growing. I can tell this guy works like hell and he is passionate about what he does. I really like that he talks more confidently to the camera. He knows what he is talking about because he has blazed his own trail my doing his own food experiments and he gets Results! Keep up the hard work!

    • @NutritionalZero
      @NutritionalZero 4 года назад +6

      Dillon Hansen Exactly, I trust him more than some startup in California that treats food as an engineering problem.

    • @BonusFry
      @BonusFry 4 года назад +1

      😎😍😁 🤩

  • @OneBraveSoulBeauty
    @OneBraveSoulBeauty 2 года назад +8

    I’ll definitely have to try these out. I miss when restaurants made actual veggie patties and not just impossible or beyond patties everywhere

  • @AyranLP
    @AyranLP 4 года назад +28

    Almost 0 AM here in germany, but i am gonna make the mushroom burger now

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  4 года назад +7

      YESSSSS!!!! ITs soo good!!

    • @AyranLP
      @AyranLP 4 года назад +3

      Btw sauce, they were amazing

    • @Evan490BC
      @Evan490BC 4 года назад

      Now, _this_ is determination! 😃

    • @one-eyepadidally8449
      @one-eyepadidally8449 17 дней назад

      @@AyranLP
      Lol what time is 0 am? 😂

  • @KnowYourProduce
    @KnowYourProduce 4 года назад +49

    Oh man I want them all but the last one with mushrooms has my name on it!! 🤤

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  4 года назад +6

      ITS SOOOO GOOD!!!! I had one today for lunch hahah

  • @noreturnlimitless9762
    @noreturnlimitless9762 4 года назад +2

    I'm not even vegan but i see you very kindhearted man so I'm really happy for the growth of your channel! You deserve it

  • @emmasgoodies
    @emmasgoodies 4 года назад +28

    Absolutely loved this burger trio Mark!! 🙌

  • @hanssmith8901
    @hanssmith8901 4 года назад +85

    Plz don't forget the vegan Japanese jiggly cheesecake you make it I'll go vegan

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  4 года назад +55

      It's coming!!!

    • @itskylelucas
      @itskylelucas 4 года назад +19

      Sauce Stache Look at you, changing the world one video at a time!

    • @wild-radio7373
      @wild-radio7373 4 года назад +3

      Yes yes yes!♡♡♡

    • @2702-i9i
      @2702-i9i 4 года назад +2

      Sauce Stache what???omg i am so excited

  • @lisakaye2110
    @lisakaye2110 3 года назад +3

    I love it when you and Monica do the taste tests. Love your channel!!

  • @akapatos3511
    @akapatos3511 4 года назад +7

    We love the burger videos! We want MORE!

  • @axelroxmysoxx
    @axelroxmysoxx Год назад +1

    I just made the mushroom burger and holy crap. My partner and I were blown away by how good it was. I thought it would taste super mushroomy but the flavor was actually so subtle. The texture was also great, and the patty didn’t fall apart either!
    I got your book through the library and will probably be buying it now. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with the world!

  • @tib0980
    @tib0980 4 года назад +16

    Can you make a video about vegan bacon lardons that you can slice into cubes and use in sauces like Bolognese?

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  4 года назад +5

      ohhh ohhhhh I love that idea!!

  • @margarett_b
    @margarett_b 4 года назад +8

    I've never thought about adding whole oats into my veggie burger- and will probably not do so BUT tapioca might me a great touch! Will give it a go next time :D

  • @davidmazza8714
    @davidmazza8714 Год назад +1

    I have plunged taste buds first into this channel! 😋😋😋
    Keep em coming! 😃

  • @joeortiz7499
    @joeortiz7499 3 года назад +1

    I'm not even vegan but I love watching and learning your cooking techniques

  • @tcedcorp
    @tcedcorp 11 месяцев назад

    chef you consistently slapped the cheese on the burger before giving us a view of the finished patties. However the craftsmanship of each and the finished "visible" edges of each looks amazing!!

  • @yuhboi_ratmann
    @yuhboi_ratmann 2 года назад +1

    I was making a veggie burger almost exactly like that first one, but what i found is that you dont want to add any liquid at all, in fact it'll be a lot less mushy if you dry off the beans by grilling them last minute w/ the onions and mushroom

  • @ER-vr5pk
    @ER-vr5pk 4 года назад +3

    Absolutely love watching your videos my friend. I’m not vegan/vegetarian but you’ve inspired me to lessen the amount of animal products in my diet and I must say I feel a lot better. Cheers!

  • @azytrinidad7766
    @azytrinidad7766 4 года назад +6

    Yes love your vegan recipes!! You’re a food scientist 👨‍🔬.

  • @buddlebj
    @buddlebj 8 месяцев назад

    Love for you and what you do. Thank you!

  • @jabracoroni
    @jabracoroni 4 года назад +3

    I put 50g gluten in my TVP burgers. Works pretty well.

  • @PeaceChanel
    @PeaceChanel 2 года назад +1

    Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste and Thank You for All your efforts 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ 🌷 ☮️ ❤️

  • @Dominikmj
    @Dominikmj 4 года назад +14

    Would be amazing to explore tempeh here. Maybe homemade... I can really see how it could work in a burger (maybe made out of black beans).
    Also what do you think about using Chinese black fermented beans as umami bomb?

  • @freshandzestyfood5033
    @freshandzestyfood5033 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for 3 burgers recipes. They all look great. Bob's Red Mill also make TVP and TSP. I've made a veggie chili with it. Pretty tasty as it takes on the flavorings you use with it. I'm definitely going to try these burgers out.

  • @felixp535
    @felixp535 4 года назад +6

    7:34 Ah right, the famous vegegtable protein.

  • @amandas1464
    @amandas1464 4 года назад +2

    Oh wow. New cutting board!!! Love it. Thinking of you two eating “ micro greens “ was stressing me out. ☮️❤️and mushroom powder forever!!! Thanks so much for all the great content.

  • @L33TNINJ4Grrl
    @L33TNINJ4Grrl Год назад

    I'm just going to combine the ingredients from every recipe and I'll get back with the results lol. All those burgers look so good

  • @lottatroublemaker6130
    @lottatroublemaker6130 4 года назад +1

    Hi again Saucie, Just have to say; Last week or the week before, my new Kove headphones arrived! It was a long wait, but sooo worth it! I am still excited, I just loooooooove them! I can’t believe that I got them for only $99, shipping to Norway included! The sound quality is really impressive, I must say, they’ve made me go «WOW!» more than once, even if I only tried them with music briefly a couple of times this far. One thing I also really love, is that I can use them with a cord if I want to. I bought a long extention cable on aliexpress, an all pretty fabric covered one and also a hard headphone case for travelling to use instead of the bag. And, the memory foam makes them sooooo comfy. I easily get pain in my ears from headphones, but not these and I probably had them on for 3-4 hours (fell asleep while watching YT vids) once, which never has happened before, it would simply be impossible, because they would hurt after a little while... I’ll climb down from my soap box now ☺️, thanks sooooooo much for the great headphone special through you!👏👏👏😊👍🌞

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  4 года назад +1

      I love the corded option hahah I actually use it quite a bit on my computer and when I switch to my phone I just use the wireless!! I'm so happy you love them! I use mine daily

  • @amandashelton1162
    @amandashelton1162 2 года назад

    Try using peas in a burger. I make a nice pea and avocado with mushrooms burger. I use tapioca starch for a binding for my burgers though. I have celiac disease so I can't have gluten. I am also allergic to wheat. I had to stop eating red meat 15 years ago because I am allergic to beef and pork as well. I also am allergic to apples and bananas as well grapefruit. I suffered origin failure three years ago from my food allergies. I can eat fish and chicken as well as turkey though. I tried going full vegetarian and vegan but my health conditions don't do well with just veggies and vegan food. I need extra nutrition so I added fish and avocado oil as well chicken and eggs for protein. I love spinach and greens so I eat lots of salad. Also, cooking salad is healthier than eating raw salad so I do cook my spinach and greens before making my salad. I also like cooked carrots in my salad. I also make my own dressing. It's healthier to home cook your food because you can control what you eat. Processed food causes health problems and I have almost died from processed junk. I speak to my doctor's about my diet. They do have me on a special diet. You are an inspiration for me. I am learning how to make better decisions for my body. Thank you. ❤️

  • @x63
    @x63 4 года назад

    For those of you trying to maintain a low carb diet, you can sub in 1/3c of ground lupin for the 1/4c of oats in the mushroom patty recipe. Worked perfectly.

  • @teegee289
    @teegee289 4 года назад

    Watching these videos late night after a couple toots was a bad idea. I won't be able to sleep but if I do I'll be dreaming of these amazing creatures

  • @SignatureEdits
    @SignatureEdits 4 года назад

    I mean... It's more of a seitan & egg burger than a mushroom burger, since the seitan is what is providing the body and binding everything with the egg...

  • @DBDG0499
    @DBDG0499 4 года назад +1

    I enjoyed the recipe you made with shredded coconut oil and vegetable protein, also do you have a chopper, that helped me so much with chopping the coconut ice cube into a good minced

  • @unapologeticvegan3230
    @unapologeticvegan3230 4 года назад +3

    We can’t easily get potato protein here in Australia - but really keen to try making tvp burgers. Can you link your original recipe? Or suggest an alternative to the potato. Thanks legend 😊

  • @qo2097
    @qo2097 2 года назад

    This guy is so awesome.

  • @redsxncubs23
    @redsxncubs23 3 года назад

    I JUST WATCHED THE PLANTA VIDEO TOO AND NOW I'M HERE

  • @Alex-nl5cy
    @Alex-nl5cy 4 года назад +2

    Have you thought about using miso for umami?

  • @chickenslapper4058
    @chickenslapper4058 4 года назад

    Not even vegan or anything but I love your personality and creativity dude. Love the content homie, keep it up bud.

  • @seyoumalemseged8182
    @seyoumalemseged8182 Год назад

    Thank you for the veggie burger recipe

  • @gohawks3571
    @gohawks3571 3 года назад

    I could just cry. I tried a few time to make veggie burgers (several years ago), like a legit, not fake meat veggie burger, and I failed over and over. This sounds so good😋 So glad you are here! I was always afraid to check out vegan channels due to all the attitude that seems to come from, I'm sure, the nuts of the community. And also because I don't think I can have too much soy, cause my hormones are nuts anyway. Thank you (tytyty) for being so informative and respectful! This channel makes me hungray😆

  • @MrCalebgrayson
    @MrCalebgrayson 4 года назад

    you gotta try dried beans instead of cooked! soaks up all the water and maintains texture.

    • @kieronbrucedillon832
      @kieronbrucedillon832 3 года назад +1

      If beans are not cooked they are 100% toxic and you should be dead in a week! Watch the movie into the wild, he ate dried beans uncooked and died at the end of the movie, from what I know all legumes " MUST be cooked.

  • @Boomtendo4tw
    @Boomtendo4tw 4 года назад +1

    that mushroom burger looks great! i love mushrooms

  • @smk7490
    @smk7490 4 года назад +8

    Can I sub the potato protein with something else? I really would love to try the TVP burger!! Beyond is getting too pricey and it's the only good gluten free vegan patty out there. Thanks for your recipes btw!

    • @mati2912
      @mati2912 3 года назад

      did you found something to replace it? i just have chickpea flour but im not sure ill work, theyre different...

    • @jelatinosa
      @jelatinosa 3 года назад

      I wonder if you can sub aquafaba or the just egg for it, as he said they serve a similar function in each burger

  • @undercava1
    @undercava1 4 года назад +2

    Wow.. I have never been this early. Looking forward to the burgers!!

  • @chriscmb
    @chriscmb 4 года назад

    Wow. They all look so good. Now if you can come up with a white castle one that would be great. Lol. I know the way they cook it with the onions is what makes it taste so good.

  • @dianec3279
    @dianec3279 4 года назад +3

    Great video Mark! Love all three and I’ve got pretty much everything but the methyl cellulose. I wonder if i could use just egg in the tvp recipe to bind it instead of the mc. 🤔 What do you think?

  • @Thetrilingualreader
    @Thetrilingualreader 4 года назад

    OMG u listened to my many many complaints and changed the music. I appreciate it ❤️

  • @djcichlid7746
    @djcichlid7746 4 года назад +1

    I truly wanted to see the “pull-ability” of all the burgers when and if you pulled them apart😃

  • @iis.1989
    @iis.1989 4 года назад +1

    They look so great, Mark. I wish to try them all. Thank you for making our lives easier. ;-)

  • @momstheword11
    @momstheword11 4 года назад

    I use Egg Replacer

  • @brayan-.-7612
    @brayan-.-7612 4 года назад

    Been here since like 30k & i keep seeing you grow keep goin at it bud💜

  • @d_leoStL
    @d_leoStL 4 года назад

    So Thankful for this video, portabello burger I'm trying this week👍🏽

  • @harshr95
    @harshr95 4 года назад +4

    new drinking game. Take a shot each time he says ''Burger''

  • @charlie_u.k.
    @charlie_u.k. 4 года назад +4

    7:32 Textured "Vegegtable"??? Protein.
    Great video and recipe, thanks so much!!!

    • @smudge8882
      @smudge8882 3 года назад

      It's technically textured soy protein. The vegetable is soy

  • @Listen2DeathMetal
    @Listen2DeathMetal 4 года назад

    Sauce Stache is truly the Nikola Tesla of plant based innovation, keep it up brother!

  • @matt123411
    @matt123411 4 года назад +1

    You should add pan-fried dulse as a bacon substitute

  • @LeTrashPanda
    @LeTrashPanda 4 года назад

    Wow, kind of old school....looks tasty!

  • @billthorne1
    @billthorne1 4 года назад

    Mark could try to make a vegan version of Cajun gravy? Popeye's has a decent one I guess. I remember enjoying putting it on mashed potatoes, baked potato wedges and french fries.

  • @ITSLIZZ111
    @ITSLIZZ111 4 года назад +2

    You should do vegan chicken and waffles!!

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  4 года назад +3

      I honestly cant believe I havnt done that yet!!!

    • @jeremiahmiller5412
      @jeremiahmiller5412 4 года назад

      @@SauceStache if you're ever in Arizona, hit up the cuttingboard cafe, their chickun and waffles are amazing! They have a vital wheat gluten fried chickun, with cornbread waffles, and all I can say is wow they're good!

  • @keepingitreal9469
    @keepingitreal9469 4 года назад

    Yes you always come through 🙌 thank you can't wait to try this 😋

  • @michellemagana402
    @michellemagana402 4 года назад

    09:13 was my favorite moment in this video!
    (These burgers look amazing btw 🤤)

  • @BibleSamurai
    @BibleSamurai 2 года назад

    i dunno...its like "okay we're going to draw stick figures today and then he whips out a Bob Ross painting"..lol

  • @jamesmitchell6925
    @jamesmitchell6925 3 года назад

    2:49 “we’re going to give this 1 more pulse” (gives it 4 pulses) 😂

  • @christineteller366
    @christineteller366 Год назад

    I enjoy the video have to make some 🤔

  • @Radical_Dreamer
    @Radical_Dreamer 4 года назад

    Saved on my recipe list!

  • @franziskabaer6404
    @franziskabaer6404 4 года назад +3

    You can also add a few walnuts to the first burger.

  • @logarithmic7
    @logarithmic7 3 года назад

    I miss it when TVP use to cost a couple bucks for a 20lb bag and now its more than the cost of ground beef/lb

  • @megannemichel4357
    @megannemichel4357 4 года назад +4

    Wow 🤩 I hope you can teach us how to make delicious vegan waffles

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  4 года назад +4

      I love that idea!

    • @kdrguru
      @kdrguru 4 года назад

      Search online. It’s easy.

    • @akabryanhall
      @akabryanhall 4 года назад

      Dry ingredients
      * 2 Cup All Purpose Flour
      * 1/2 Teaspoon Ground Cinnamon
      * 4 Teaspoons Baking Powder
      * Or 1 tsp baking soda 2tsp lemon juice
      Wet ingredients
      * 1 banana
      * 2 Teaspoon Sugar
      * 1/2 Teaspoon Salt
      * 2 Cup Almond milk
      * 2 Tablespoon Vegetable Oil
      * 2 Tablespoon Water
      * 2 Teaspoon Vanilla Extract
      * 4 Tablespoons melted Cant believe not Butter
      Blend the wet ingredients then mix with the dry. Boom

    • @liriosogno6762
      @liriosogno6762 4 года назад +1

      @@kdrguru DUH! but we have no idea ehag ingenuity mr Stache could bring to began waffles !
      Also i tried some recipes online and was never satisfied

  • @cecicordoni
    @cecicordoni 4 года назад

    please get a bigger chopping board!!! love the recipes

  • @gomezfriesen
    @gomezfriesen 4 года назад +1

    Hey! I love your videos, but I struggle with all the powdery chemical things. I want to learn. Could you please make a kitchen pantry video that shows all the things you have to make your crazy awesome recipes?!! Basically a hey, this is methlelos celulate, and it does this, you can buy it here. And this is vital vegan soul protein powder (red head free) , etc...

  • @Radical_Dreamer
    @Radical_Dreamer 4 года назад +1

    What could be a replacement of the "justegg" on the third hamburger?

  • @mccauleyconor
    @mccauleyconor 4 года назад

    I just made burgers today with leftovers for tomorrow! (Made with tvp and seitan)
    I'll have to wait til Friday to try these!!!

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  4 года назад +1

      Thats awesome!!! I cant wait until you try them!!

  • @NBK1122
    @NBK1122 4 года назад +1

    Where does one get that much mushroom powder? Amazon sells 2 or 3 ounce packages for around $10 or more. And they have added salt. Too expensive. I thought about dehydrating store bought mushrooms but I don't have a dehydrator and the lowest temperature on my oven is 170°F.

    • @rodneyck2
      @rodneyck2 4 года назад +1

      In the US, Trader Joe's sells a mushroom powder in their spice section that is cheap. BUT, if you really want to save money, just buy dried mushrooms and use a high-power blender to grind them up into powder.

  • @oliverwhimstermartinsen7214
    @oliverwhimstermartinsen7214 4 года назад

    First 30 seconds is just Mark talking like a 2010 SEO person trying to get his website to rank for “burger” and “plant-based” 😂
    But anyways, great great content as always, really appreciated!

  • @MathieuDeVinois
    @MathieuDeVinois 3 года назад

    I am quite a burger addict. I definitely gonna try those receipt once I got all that powders and stuff. - there is just. Why don’t you make your own buns? The best burger is destroyed with a bad bread.

  • @diannariley8430
    @diannariley8430 2 года назад +1

    Are you and your sweetie going to put out a cookbook? My hubby and I just love it when you get scientific with your cooking! Those burgers look so good, I’m swallowing hard just looking at them.

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  2 года назад +2

      I have one!!! And thank you! You can find it most places books are sold.. Making Vegan Meat: The plant based food science cookbook!

  • @diegoalvarez5384
    @diegoalvarez5384 3 года назад

    I'm really grateful with the second recipe. Why you didn't put some MSG? I know you love it. Can I try it? or you think just with the mushrooms powder it's enough. Thanks

  • @sttssymbl
    @sttssymbl 4 года назад

    Can't wait to try these! In the last one, did you cook the mushrooms before adding the other ingredients?

  • @Lola-Yo
    @Lola-Yo 3 года назад

    Another Great video, I made hybrid burgers with beans, tvp, mushrooms, everything, the kitchen sink, no vital wheat protein though. I thought you had to knead and boil that ingredient to activate it?

  • @GavinSeim
    @GavinSeim 4 года назад +28

    Thanks for all these. I've been tinkering with this here in mexico to try and offer a legit vegetarian burger as options are limited. Some of these things like Methoceluose are hard to get but most of these variants I have. Today I was cooking the mushrooms and the textures Soy first in the oil because they absorb a lot and that way I get a savory texture base. Is there a reason not to cook oil into this so we can get more of a hamburger profile.

  • @lamllemaussade
    @lamllemaussade 4 года назад

    I will not be surprised if I am buying Sauce Stache products in stores one day.

  • @marciaweilenman6618
    @marciaweilenman6618 2 года назад

    I just found your channel and have been binge watching! Love the food science! I spent a lot of time researching the potato protein- it seems a fairly new item and very hard to find except an expensive order from Europe. Wondering if your scientific mind can figure out an easily purchased substitute for everyday people?

  • @kerriewithpurpose5722
    @kerriewithpurpose5722 4 года назад

    Just add nutritional yeast...it just makes everything taste good

  • @bee8396
    @bee8396 4 года назад +1

    The TVP burger is my favorite.

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  4 года назад

      I love this new TVP recipe with the potato protein!! Its Wild

  • @47DAF
    @47DAF 3 года назад

    You should use a burger press.

  • @caterinaferrari5166
    @caterinaferrari5166 4 года назад

    YES TO THE OATS!! always add oats to your veggie burgers people

  • @rodneyck2
    @rodneyck2 4 года назад

    That potato protein is not cheap. If my calculations are correct, $30 for 200 grams of potato protein, that 1/4 cup you used is $9 alone, not including the other ingredients to make the burger. As it stands, it is cheaper to buy the Beyond Burger meat in the store.

  • @DesperationLasts
    @DesperationLasts 4 года назад

    Something you can use besides vital wheat gluten for the mushroom burger? I have celiac disease.

  • @christophermorin9036
    @christophermorin9036 4 года назад +2

    Is there a reason why you rinsed the beans? wouldn't the starchy bean water help the burger bind up?

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  4 года назад +2

      Yes!! I used the Aquafaba liquid from the chickpeas!! Aquafaba is a better binder per weight than black bean liquid! I wanted less liquid and more bind! The super wet black bean burgers are the ones that fall apart easier

  • @shawns4354
    @shawns4354 4 года назад

    These are freakin amazing! Hey just a thought, have you ever seen Chef Jana on youtube? She makes same amazing vegan Riccotta cheeses, cream cheese ect, if you ever want to take a look at what she does id love to see your take on it using things like lactic acid, cappa K and all that. Cheers!

  • @jacquilewis3323
    @jacquilewis3323 3 года назад

    Is potato protein the same as potato starch?

  • @matthewboyall3461
    @matthewboyall3461 4 года назад +1

    Have you tried pea protein in a burger yet?

  • @Owl-yc2yu
    @Owl-yc2yu 2 года назад

    Is there a recipe that's basically all three combined?

  • @dollphyn1
    @dollphyn1 3 года назад

    Is there anywhere I can find the written instructions for the second recipe you have here? The one using the TVP? I am so wanting to try this but I am getting all 3 of these recipes confused with each other, and yes I have ADHD :-D

  • @nicholastoo858
    @nicholastoo858 2 года назад

    What can I replace potato protein with?

  • @michaelrhine3152
    @michaelrhine3152 2 года назад +1

    I'm an idiot... at the start of the video I started trying to figure out why the video was so small before I realized he was showing clips of his own videos

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  2 года назад

      You know I could actually see that happening!!! I need to work on making that better??

  • @SolenaRift
    @SolenaRift 4 года назад

    I've often wondered what food processor you have. I have a small kitchen and would love to know. Seems to be the right size for my kitchen.

    • @unapologeticvegan3230
      @unapologeticvegan3230 4 года назад

      I don’t know what model it is but it’s a Ninja. Maybe the Master Prep Professional?

  • @lilithgarner1243
    @lilithgarner1243 3 года назад

    Oh hell yeah. You literally made beef out of not-beef. I'm switching ASAP ❤

  • @Sanlogica
    @Sanlogica 4 года назад

    hola, es bueno tu canal. Lamentablemente nunca encuentro las recetas en tu pagina!

  • @DeanRendar
    @DeanRendar 4 года назад

    I'd love to see your take on marinating a plant based meat premade of from scratch to taste like carne asada for a full vegan carne asada super fries like they serve in SoCal Albertos/Alfredos restaurant chains. I'd get all the fake sourcreams, shredded cheddar, plant based meats just to get that taste experience in a 2lb styrafoam box at 3 AM experience again as a vegan.

  • @HowToCuisine
    @HowToCuisine 4 года назад +1

    Looks so delicious! WHOA! 😍😍🔔

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  4 года назад

      It was! Thank you so much!!!