Air Asia Stall at 37,000 feet - Air Crash Investigation 2024 - Mayday Air Disaster
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Indonesia AirAsia Flight 8501, an Airbus A320 was a flight between Surabaya and Singapore on December 28, 2014 with 162 people on board. .
In this video, we'll dive into the details of AirAsia flight QZ8501, which crashed into the Java Sea on December 28, 2014, after stalling at 37,000 feet. Join us as we examine the investigation findings and analyze the causes and consequences of this tragic air disaster. This incident highlights the importance of proper pilot training, communication, and aircraft maintenance. Through this video, we hope to increase awareness and understanding of aviation safety and the measures taken to prevent similar incidents from happening in the future. Don't forget to hit the like button and subscribe to our channel for more informative content. Let's delve into this critical issue together. - Авто/Мото
Submitting my resume as Air crash investigator - "Watched thousands of hours of Air Crash Investigation"
LMAO... Professional with those hours
😂 me lmao
Funnily enough you need to get a degree in understanding of aircraft engineering.
I’ll be your assistant. Watched many at least twice over. I can tell the investigators before they even think about the problem.
Survivors 0
When you can't financially afford to become a pilot and you watched all the airplane crash documentary investigation. Anyone? ☺
Yes 😂
its me...
@Noneofyourbusiness like millions 😅
It's so true
@Noneofyourbusiness 250,000 usd
Every airport is one of the world's busiest! 😆
And every crash is one of the deadliest in aviation history
Identity Secret so true😂
I laughed so hard :D
And every pilot is experienced
And every plane is one of the most advanced
26:20 "The computer literally said "I can't function, Im confused" and it shut down."
The computer is a whole mood.
Probably a woman.
@@tazman8697 bro what?
@@tazman8697
Can't be a woman. Female maybe. Still, a female would first remind the pilot of all his faults and the "bad" things he has done. THEN it would shut down, sulking and waiting for him to say he's sorry and it's all his fault. When the pilot asks what the problem is, the computer would respond with "You know darn good and well what the problem is." At which point all the guys in the cockpit would roll their eyes and shake their heads knowing this will not end well.
NOT CHEERFUL NIHILISM
@@justisaiah6541 let him be
One of the problems I see in the simulations of air crashes is the pilots flying the simulation are expecting something to go wrong. That anticipation makes them react quicker than what happens in real life. A good example of this was Captain Sully's flight that he landed in the Hudson River. All the simulations they ran showed the pilots being able to make it to a runway because they knew what was going to happen before it happened. There was also an incorrect assumption that at least one engine was still providing thrust, but they ran the simulations with dual engine flame outs too.
Exactly 💯
The benefit of hindsight is a wonderful thing but not the luxury pilots have in a real situation as you say.
I felt like that floght water landing is over complimented
It's over compliment? Dude a airplane is scatter into pieces the moment it will touchdown without support. Landing a plane in one piece in a water body is spectacular.
@@canineatnight6026 you don’t understand😄do you? That landing was a feat of a masterful flying, basically in a situation where everything went wrong, they did everything right. Yes, there was some luck involved, for example that they were at a sufficient height to make it over a bridge, but if anyone ever deserved a bit of luck…. It was them. You can’t over compliment none of this.
Who else has bing-watched all these mayday documentaries during the lock down and is now freaked out about soon starting to fly again?!
This isn't Mayday
Xanax is the ultimate solution. Lol
Starting to fly again, what you talking about. I’m staying put.
I STOPPED GETTING ON PLANES A LONG TIME AGO BECAUSE I HAVE HAD DREAMS OF PLANES COMING DOWN NEAR ME. THEY ARE REOCCURING DREAMS AND IVE HAD THEM SINCE I WAS A CHILD. I DID GET ON PLANES AS A YOUNGER ADULT BUT I BECAME SCARED OF THEM WHEN I WAS MIDDLE AGED. NOW IM OLD IM STILL SCARED OF GETTING ON ONE AND I SIMPLY WONT DO IT. BUT I DO SOMETIMES WATCH THESE AIR CRASH SHOWS. THAT ONLY MAKES ME EVEN SCARDER.
Some of these are fairly well-researched and feel authoritative, while others do a skim of the documents and call it a day. They're a mixed bag, quality-wise. I have no fear of flying, as my country's airlines are some of the safest in the world. I would be more worried about spending up to 15 hours in an enclosed environment with someone whose desparation to get to a place overruled their illness. Statistically, flying is safer than driving. Realistically, some risks have to be taken. Personally, I'll be waiting until vaccination rates are over 85% before I feel comfortable sitting in the discomfort of an airline seat once more.
It's beautiful when different nations put hand in hand to help each other
They don't. They just want to find their own citizens and protect their benefits. USA has financial benefits to blame every error possible on Airbus, and french have their own benefits to protect their industry.
@@boboutelama5748 And all nations get an excuse to flex their naval muscle, get some real life exercise, and project their power.
It's almost always done because they're either owners of the airlines/planes involved or because they have some sort of link to those aircrafts/pilots.
Yes it is...but there are still 15th century minded Countries who are trying to Take Foreign Territories like Albania and Mean Killer of Innocent People organizations like NATO....USA And EU until they exist there won't be Peace in The World,neither Humanity
I was surprised Russia was involved
I am a air crash investigator with years of expertise in watching Air craft crashes under my belt
The narrator has a lovely voice.
yes, you feel emotions while he is talking
@@anisguendouli6392 ooooi88iiiiiioii8878
He sure does.
@Robin Leijon right.. can't stand British accent. They sound like they are having hiccups while speaking. It gives me anxiety. Lmao.
It's like butta 💙
as someone who fears turbulence, i cannot even begin to imagine the turbulence during that crash! horrific
Everyone has a different gift in life and pilots have to have a certain gift to be successful pilots. All admiration goes to them. And the pilots who saved lives and the ones who did their best but were unsuccessful. All respect to you.
I kind of disagree with that. It is for sure an honorable job but they're not policeman or firefighter. Just like the passengers, their asses are on the plane too.
@@oceaneo4603 but the lives of the other people are in the pilot's hand dont forget that u would not want to be enemy with someone who is going to keep you hanging in air for the next 14 hour flight
I remember one pilot interviewed said he thought the simulator made a mistake & stopped mid-emergency to ask what was going on and got ripped a new one by the instructor. Even in the simulations they have to treat it real because they're not going to have help when it does happen.
Océaneo 460 just like pilots, police and firefighters asses are also on the same vehicle if you will. I’m not about to go into a burning house whereas a FF will; thus putting him/herself in the same danger as the passenger/victims.
@@martak991 little bit different. A vehicle can stop, and firefighter can escape in most
Cases. Neither are an option when in the air
My heart aches while watching these disasters unfold. That sinking feeling when a captain realizes he has no control over his ac. He may know what to do to recover but the plane just won’t cooperate. 🥺🥺
To everyone freaking out about the man intentionally stalling his plane, every student is taught stalls regular, it by no means is an uncommon thing to do
Pilots needs to flying more manual again than most of time the auto pilots does it. Stalling is most errors of pilots, they pull back the joystick and put the nose even more up and make the stall even worster, it's nose down, joystick forward and full speed and out of the stall but problem pilots just trained most in tranining and they know it's just a simulator and safe but in real flight, they do the oppsite than they should and that's why if pilots starting more flying manual the plane, they get used to it more and the more feel of the plane they are in
and upset recovery. they may not have a lot of hours on recovery but I believe now they all have some training in upset recovery
@@paranormalmedium5281 Instead of making the flight more dangerous due to a pilot’s fatigue while flying manual most of the time, how about we train pilots to deal with stalling?
@@paranormalmedium5281 The problem in the Air Asia crash was, the first officer was not prepared to fly the plane in "Direct Law" (all computers turned off). The captain just reset the vital Flight Computers in mid-flight, which is an insane thing to do. Normally, you only do this on the ground. The first officer was totally caught by surprise, while the captain was in the back of the cockpit, away from his seat. The aircraft stalled in a matter of seconds, since they were in a thunderstorm, plus there was miscommunication regarding the sidestick ("pull down" instead of "push down"). In short: Totally insane, resetting the Flight Computers in mid-flight in the middle of a tropical thunderstorm. The underlying cause, however, was bad maintenance of the aircraft. An electronic component was faulty for months, causing 23 error messages. 4 error messages alone on the fatal flight. The captain never would have tried this crazy stunt, would the aircraft have been properly maintained. Shame on Air Asia Indonesia for sending a faulty plane into the sky. 162 people died because of negligence.
@@petermuller5800 it’s Alternate Law
"for reasons unknown the plane began to climb-"
dude the pilot probably freaked out and wanted to get above the storm
Or they hit an updraft. I've been in some where I've had to bury the nose to the ground to prevent a climb. TS's can have insane levels of updrafts.
I could only imagine how terrifying this would be, the ultimate ending. So scary.
It's remarkable how reliable planes are. Outside these few accidents.
"Few accidents"? That can't be referring to Indonesia. They had like six serious ones.
@@JimMorkYou do know how rare airplane crashes are right?
Today...
One of Indonesian Aircraft, Sriwijaya Air with Flight Number SJ182 crashed in Kepulauan Seribu...
Innalilahi wa inna ilaihi Raji'un...
May God have mercy to them...
Semoga semua jenazahnya segera di temukan, amiin...
Ah ada org indo juga ntn ginian , tumbe
@@ozymandias4479 Aslinya sering nonton cuman jarang komen aja... 😂
The final Indonesia NTSC report stated that "a non-critical malfunction in the rudder control system prompted the captain to perform a non-standard reset of the on-board flight control computers. Control of the aircraft was subsequently lost, resulting in a stall and uncontrolled descent into the sea. Miscommunication between the two pilots was cited as a contributing factor." It further states the the weather was NOT a contributing factor in this accident.
So nothing like the "conclusions" of this episode.
This is why we wait for final reports before dramatising things we don't know about.
Why do they make these programmes without knowing what happened? Why couldn't they wait until final reports are released. 40 minutes of speculation...
That’s the point...
They do know what happened. Watch the video.
Or wikipedia :The report stated that the sequence of events that led to the crash started with a malfunction in two of the plane's rudder travel limiter units (RTLU).[139] A tiny soldered electrical connection in the plane's RTLU was found to be cracked, likely for over a year, causing it to intermittently send amber master caution warnings to the electronic centralised aircraft monitor (ECAM)-with the plane's maintenance records showing that the RTLU warning had been sent 23 times over the previous year, but was always solved (and never further investigated, which could have addressed the underlying electrical problem) by resetting the RTLU system.[140][141][142] On this flight, the RTLU issue sent an amber caution warning four different times, and the first three times that the ECAM system gave the warning "Auto Flight Rudder Travel Limiter System", the pilot in command followed the ECAM instructions, toggling the flight augmentation computer (FAC) 1 and 2 buttons on the cockpit's overhead panel to off and then on.[143] This procedure did clear the amber master caution warnings for each of those first three warnings.[144]
Specifics in the report indicate that French First Officer Rémi Emmanuel Plesel was at the controls just before the stall warning sounded in the cockpit indicating that the jet had lost lift. Investigators also found that, just moments earlier-on the fourth occurrence of the RTLU warning during the flight-the Captain chose to ignore the procedure advised by the ECAM instructions, and, instead, left his seat and reset the circuit breaker of the entire FAC,[140][145] unintentionally disengaging multiple flight control systems, which would have to be turned on by the pilots after the circuit breakers are reset.[146] This circuit breaker is not on the list of circuit breakers that are allowed to be reset in flight,[37]:106[l] and disabling both FACs placed the aircraft in alternate law mode, disengaging the autopilot and stopping the automatic stall protection and bank angle protection.[147] The FAC is the part of the fly-by-wire system in A320 aircraft responsible for controlling flight surfaces including the rudder. Without the FAC's computerized flight augmentation, pilots would have to "rely on manual flying skills that are often stretched during a sudden airborne emergency".[148] When the crew was required to fly the Airbus A320 manually, there was an unexplained nine-second delay between the start of the roll and either pilot attempting to take control.[149] After nine seconds, the aircraft was banking at a 54° angle.
The report did not specifically conclude that pilot error caused the crash[150] while detailing the chain of events leading to the loss of Flight 8501. However, one of the investigators, the NTSC's Nurcahyo Utomo, referred to an apparent miscommunication between the pilots (based on the recordings on the cockpit voice recorder) and said that the malfunction should not have led to a total loss of control had they followed the recommended procedure.[4]
@@zeusk101 It should be further noted that the captain had witnessed the resetting of the FAC's on the ground by an engineer, and decided to try the reset airborne.
This is not an ECAM driven procedure.
Thanks...as soon as i saw your comment, i left
@@hamidrazavi822 The same alarm sounded and the same ECAM memo displayed three more times at 06:09, 06:13, and 06:16 respectively, totaling four times all together. At 06:16, Flight 8501 was cleared to climb to FL 380 but received no response.
OMG! Don't make it like its some big deal to stall his small plane. Literally every time you fly with an instructor you do stalls. When I was teaching I"d sit with students demonstrating stalls more than a dozen times per day. Its a very normal training maneuver and is required on every checkride.
Just reading this gives me anxiety. That would be my last lesson. Nope nope nope.
I hope with the inspection, removal, painting, and reinstalling on a helicopter once.
When done, we all piled in, took up, and tested the helicopters auto rotation a few times.
As a girl, I think I was the only person (besides the pilot) who did not freak out the first time
The pilot even noticed that, I actually had fun every time he did that.
He expected me to scream, and I just smiled the entire time.
One fellow mechanic did scream a little the first time….and he was a “tough” guy.
🙄😒 Boys………..
I was always the one to get the snakes, spiders, and other critters that came into the hanger.
Auto rotation…when the engine that spins the rotors turns off and only momentum and the force of the descending helicopter turns the top blades.
We were leas then a few hundred feet off the ground so death was super unlikely. Just a “hard landing” and at worst a broken bone.
As a slightly autistic female I actually enjoy turbulence and jolts.
Wwwwweeeee!
@Viki M lol facts too much pride that’s what happened to people who had too much pride and crashed plenty of flights yes yes I’ve been trained I never screamed the first time I’m a boy but I reacted 😮nose down full engine power, don’t hit the angle too hard or it will district aerodynamics or if we bank so hard that the gpws (ground proximity warning system) won’t read the stall that kids, we call a TOGA stall a over banking stall
I have known about this since I was 10 years old so yeah I wasn’t scared at all and knew how to react infact I knew so much that this girl who wanted to become a pilot I knew much more than her at only 10 years old I knew about rudders ailerons stalk TOGA stall bank angle 45. 50 degrees bank and I already know about sink rate warnings like that pull up terrain terrain don’t sink I know those warnings and I was 10 years old the pilot was surprised I knew already😎I did not even need a test lol but when it’s time to react I react I get away that pride that you have too much and react thank you😃 oh and vertical stabilizers hehe😅 and anti icing and heating and knew how to react Incase of a engine fire ok let’s do this let’s say your in a stall and you have an engine fire you don’t put too much power put the maximum you can not the max because then you will explode the engine it won’t work anymore so put the nose down not too much force, gently. And boom! You have recovered but in a TOGA stall ehhhh not sure bout that ok you do this pull up this type of stall requires pulling up ngl but pull up gently and then your good and that was how much 10 year old me knew thank you
I have seen that video of the freight plane stalling multiple times; it never ceases to have an effect on me. Knowing that those people only have seconds is so sad.
Pilots should be doing 1 manual flight a month in order to not have their skills degraded over time.
Yes, investigators keep repeating that, and reaching that conclusion after many air disasters. So, why is the industry not implementing this recommendation, which in many instances, might not only save lives, but save thousands of dollars to the industry??
Called money, profits, and greed. Some companies can't even afford to take planes off for regular maintenance at times. Every drop of fuel saved by the computer is a dollar saved. All hail going green.
Or just more disaster. Because every manual flight might be a chance for human error
Sairode
The problem with you “green nuts” is you literally have no idea what you’re talking about, did you know that the insane “new green deal” calls for the END OF AIR TRAVEL? There is no other fuel source to fly planes other than fossil fuel. Try educating yourself.
This is realy air crash investivigation from nat geo?
Something about Indonesia and planes which scares me
Several modern accidents and a general perception of it being a backwater.
A lot of European pilots fly there to get their hours up. Successful pilots there have flown into postage stamps on hillsides in turbo props. The issue isn’t the pilots, it’s the weather and the maintenance, companies have been known to cut corners, but that was true into e US, rogue uncertified spares elivator screws un lubricated at Air Alaska for example. US pilots in my view, rely too heavily on technology, as did the France pilot when his air speed indicators failed,and his copilot was holding the aeroplanes nose up, causing it to stay stalled, until it hit the deck. Someone criticised an air Egypt pilot for not disengaging the autopilot in a 737max, but it re-engaged unprompted and forced the nose down repeatedly. Boeing blamed pilot error, it happened again. The attitude against non US pilots by US media, caused more deaths. Patriotism kills people. Just ask your military how many people have died, sticking your noses where you have no business.
You wrote what i always think.
Aye that just cross my mind. I say I never going dem parts for shyte . Don’t trust them planes out deh
I recall Lion Air is banned from flying to several countries.
26:20 me too computer, me too.
The narration of a documentary matters.The narrator has the documentary literally in his or her hands.You will either catch the documentary or you will turn it off.I enjoyed the program.Thank you.
"This may change the way you feel about flying"
(me snickering)
I just put my hand on my face and was like really 😒🤣🤣🤣
Not really lol I still will not fly...js☺️👋
I have seen thousands of such documentary and its my all time favourite program . but the bad result of wathing all these ....I cant fly now . I cant even imagine m in plane . I have gained much much knowledge about planes and terminology related to it . I wish I would have been the part of NTSB 😊
That all also provides an ADDITIONAL reason to appreciate the immense responsibility flight crews take on every flight AND to show that to them next flight!
For anyone interested, the 'Aireon' technology for real-time airdata is still being deployed to this date with the latest, and largest so far, being deployed for Isavia ANS (covering 5.4 million square km of controlled air space). It is also deployed across Mumbai, Chennai and Kolkata's oceanic airspace
And yet glitch in software lead to both boeing and airbus to loose control and stall over Java sea due to autopilot.
This is the problem when you rely too much on technology
It's been a while since I've seen one of these, thanks for the upload!
Ever since I watched a marathon of MayDay literally the night I got off a plane as a kid I've loved the genre, and developed a fear of flying lol
Re reading my earlier comments, there is one difference from the good old days. Analogue instruments. You see the Altimeter spinning round as you fall. Two pilots were frozen pulling the nose up, according to the black box. Expecting the computer to interpret their instruction to climb. Fly by cable planes, you control the axis. Nose down, means nose down. Fly by wire stick forward means descend.
I lived in west borneo and born in here. Was watching a lot of clouds all my life and i know, the weather will be so much crazy in here. It changed every 30 minutes during january and many thunderstorm and lighting strike with heavy windy suddenly happened.
Not yet, the moon gravity in here so strong. During november , december , january , february, the hightide so unbelieveable strong. Caused a flood during moon calendars from 28 to 7 ( moon calendars )
When the plane crash near the borneo, i thought they have trouble with weather because culumnobiuos clouds are so high level formation during december and january february. But i read news, it was involved human error connection between pilot and airtraffic controlled.
Now, this video explained something
They finally nailed it..."too much technology in the cockpit!" It is NOT the same as "pilot error!"
It's too much techonlogy in conjunction with pilot error. As soon as the technology fails and the aircraft is in the hands of the pilot, they lack the necessary experience of flying the aircraft manually.
@@GamersComputer no most of these crashes happen at night bro...like fr u have no visual reference to the horizon there r situations where u loose full hydraulics yet pilot managed to land it just coz it was morning and there was a reference horizon
@@papaboi9983 If a pilot needs a visual reference then it is pilot failure. Unless literally every single system aboard the plane fails pilots have artificial horizons in the cockpit indicating their attitude. It's the blue/brown screen they show at around 20:04. And airline pilots re trained to fly IFR, using the instruments, not visual or internal references exactly because those are utterly unreliable during flight.
This was very informative, I liked how they illustrated some complicated flying principles
Did this man just fly a aircraft and stall it intentionally for the sake of the investigation? That's dedication hahah
Haha I was thinking the same thing
It’s a normal maneuver, it’s taught to students after 5/10 hours flying so they know how to recover. If you know how to recover properly it’s completely safe.
I wonder what you mean by haha when it comes to a pilot 'intentionally' stalling a plane full of people like you said.
@@xiwei-huang it wasn’t full of people when he intentionally stalled it but he did it for the investigation alone while flying.
It was a simulator 🤦🏼♀️
-Tower, change height to 99 planes.
-Ok.
-Tower, change height to 100th plane.
-No, too crowded...
There is no such thing as perfection in aviation. The crashes will continue to happen.
Human beings are subject to error and failure. They make mistakes whether they are pilots or Maintenance. Humans get angry, they make mistakes. They get tired, they forget, they aren't perfect.
Well said.
Isn't that why computer were put into the aircrafts systems. and still crashes happen.
@@josephamego1528 computers can’t prevent maintenance error/neglect ….
Machines malfunction too
40 minutes to explain the aircraft stalled and crashed.
The captain decided to reset to the FAC circuit breakers (CB), having previously seen this action being performed by a ground engineer, and believed that it was okay to perform this action in flight. However, resetting FAC CB's was actually prohibited in flight. This was the cause, and this was not covered in this so called documentary.
Good
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@@cdlgrainger There were more things than that. There is a list of something like 6 direct causes, aside from things outside of pilot control or mistakes made on that regard. Then more speculation. Not fun. Mistakes were made.
@@Sylinnilys Agreed there was a recurrent theme in the tech log, and every time it was the usual tested found satis and returned to service. On that score I agree, HOWEVER ... the cause of the upset was the decision to reset the FCUs in flight having observed it being done on the ground, and THAT is dangerous.
There is no FCOM reference to that action anywhere, and it is specifically prohibited by Airbus, so this was test flying with a full load of pax.
@@cdlgrainger what does that mean
Came hete after Sriwijaya video.. Again Indonesia? God I can't explain theur fear.. My deepest condolences 😭
"The plane descended 8,000 feet in half a minute and began to turn left. The airplane then ditched into the sea killing everyone on board. The crash was caused by a rudder failure. The pilots also misunderstood each other during the emergency, causing them to pitch the aircraft up even further, worsening the stall."
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Nothing of this or any details about the reasons of the disaster are mentioned in this video. It is more a video about the earlier Air France crash and contains little information about the Air Asia crash.
Yeah. This video is terrible. Never explain the REAL reason for the crash and it has nothing to do with the weather! The ECAM message came out 3 or 4 times and the captain reset the circuit breaker which turned the place to Alternate law. And the rest is history. (Burnt circuit board)
I think it would help pilots if they had more 3D awareness training.
The first example I give is a simple one.
I have ridden a high performance recumbent amongst road bikes quite often.
The sensations and performance capabilities of the bikes are very different.
The recumbent can stop shorter, turn quicker and is faster down hill and on the flat.
To ride with road bikes I have to be very careful not to make it unsafe for them.
The most dangerous parameter is stopping distance and sensation.
The road bike rider loads their hands and upper body, all very sensitive to load and trained to not exceed the maximum approximately 1/2G maximum braking force/-ve acceleration a racing bike can make.
The recumbent applies force via my feet and bum mainly, both areas used to 1G loads separately so my sensation of a 0.3G deceleration is very low.
I never caused a crash with uprights.
I think pilot training should include 3D awareness training on a trampoline or similar device throughout their flying career.
This should significantly improve situational awareness.
While airline disasters like these are horrible tragedies it’s nice to see that in events like these all nations put differences aside to help look for survivors
Modern autopilots are very capable to recover from almost any stall, also planes have multiple sensors in case of a failure in one. Unfortunately too many times when one sensor has a problem rather than switching to the working sensor and keep the autopilot running pilots take over manual control while completely caught off guard. Planes needs an emergency "stall recovery button" like reactors have an emergency scramble button.
Yeah.. I’m 13, definitely gonna be either a crash investigator or an Aviation expert. 💃🧍
Good luck!
@@kalvin3558 aaaa this made my day thank you
Doubt
@@martinnuman1097 Well that’s terrifying 😃
Same here
Greetings from Scotland, thank you for this it's a brilliant quality too
Why was the course of the flight not changed when it was known that weather conditions are not conducive for flight? Its human error at many levels.
Very valuable video..and it tells a lot of stories about aviation tragedies and the science behind them..
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i have seen birds stalling & recovering, sometimes stalling by air/ birds, sometimes itself to play with wind , recover and find right place to sit and reach there from that controlled predicted stall
Birds are simply amazing aviators
keep making great vids
I flew to see my mom in south Carolina, nice ,and clear, when it was time to fly back home, it was thunderstorming ,and it was also night time, I'll say i was terrified to say the least,especially because I'm scared of flying even in clear weather
Nice to see you alive
Has anyone ever noticed that when the cause of a air crash is found out or given those incharge always say that we must make sure that this doesn't happen again, but it doesn't does it, there's always another one, then another one. Flying is reported as being safer than driving a car, the problem is planes are being made bigger so when they crash more people are killed.
Despite the apparent theme of this video , which I though was supposed to be about air Asia 8501, severe weather was NOT a factor in its crashing, and neither was it for the air France disaster.
In addition, both aircraft were of an Airbus design , and in both cases the FO and Capt entered opposte up and down flight inputs via their joystick controls, which effectively led to a stall and subsequent crash.
Note: Boeing aircraft do not employ joysticks as input controls.
What we have in the air Asia crash is a failure to operate and fly the aircraft correctly .
They're sidesticks, not "joysticks". Sever weather most definitely was a factor in AF443, causing the pitot tubes to freeze and give erroneous air data which triggered the whole sequence of events. I agree that it wasn't a factor in this one.
I would further say that AF443 was due to a lack of basic airmanship. If there are two inputs on both sidesticks on Airbus aircraft you get a loud DUAL INPUT announcement but I'm not sure if this happened in AF443.
You are soooo right! I was not impressed with this program. Its like listening to my old math teachers. The narrator put me to sleep.
i remembered that plane crash, at that time i was 4th grade in primary school and just about to enter 5th grade, when i saw the news i begin to get interested in airplanes.
Well the GPS for plane is now a reality and for normal people it's "flight radar 24" 👍
No flightradar 24 is based on ADS-B not GPS. GPS data can be part of the information sent, but the sending is done via transponder radio, which is not directly related to GPS.
I don’t understand how after all this time they still don’t have video recordings in an aircraft.
Good point
They do. It's called a black box. Only they don't show the public.
@@johanna5688 Black boxes don't record video you utter mong.
Based on black box and the data in the plane, they construct the video
@@johanna5688 dude, black box only recording the voices inside the cockpit.
i feel pity for the lost souls...and it must be really hurting for the family member...may God Comforts be with them...
For the past 3 1/2 years everytime I search aircrash investigation this is there
How amazing is it that in this video they were prototyping LIDAR and here I am sat watching this with one of those on the back of my phone.... mad
Waste of time. No conclusion and then unrelated breakaway topics covered ad nauseum.
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@@lalabullshit9744 I"m guessing that you don"t understand what ad nauseam means.
Exactly. Final investigation report made it clear, this is another human factor related accident , crm breakdown ,violating sop and some lack of skills escalated by Fly by wire system. I am an a320 pilot and a CRM instructor, I regret to say one more time after AF447 June2009 , It is human factor , again.
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Ad nauseum is getting sick from too many RUclips ads
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Just Watch theflightchannel, it shows what happened.
I was on a flight in the USA and it hit an air pocket literally felt like the plane was going to roll scary
Same thing happened to me I was flying from Boston to Africa and we hit a pocket and plane dropped rapidly. I was actually watching air disasters the night before boarding to. All you heard was everyone take a deep breath
@@Bucky0012 oh hell no. stop the plane let me out. If that happened to me on a plane you wouldnt be able to pound a needle up my butt with a sledge hammer!
It's nothing,it's just a turbulence,you did be surprised Planes are designed to take on huge gust of winds
Ok here's why Air Asia 8501 crashed: The idiot pilot got tired of a Master Caution warning going off. So he decided to do what he had seen the ground crew do to shut off the warning system, and that was to reset the circuit breakers. FYI- you can't do that mid-flight, only on the ground. It therefore cut off the autopilot and reset all of the systems. The pilots got confused and didn't know what was going on, and than it crashed.
what u need is real time stall and corckscrew dive management, system should adapt thrust and reverse thrust along with wings to see if it can manage and control any kind of dive
Go around thunderstorms . Never ever try to set down an aircraft in a thunderstorm.
So remember this captain had 20,000 hours flying hours as a military jet pilot plus all his hours as a commercial pilot. He didn’t lack skills or experience. Pilots are ALWAYS taught DONT trust your “feelings” TRUST your instruments. There is a very good reason why. I have a friend who owned an expensive sports car that you can barely “feel” when it’s moving. Sometimes he drives in the mountains 5000+ feet in a lot of turns. Once he said “I-looked down and was amazed how-fast I was going.” It scared him because he couldn’t “feel” it and he knew it could cost him his life over the edge. So this pilot lost his ability to gage his speed, he’s flying at night in a storm. He can’t see above to the stars, he can’t see the horizon, he can’t see the ocean…no depth perception or speed or even nose angle….What all this proves is what pilots are taught all the time DONT TRUST YOUR FEELINGS!!! This pilot HAD!!! to and it ended in his death. It just highlights the age old truths because he was one of the very best!
In Christianity Christian’s are taught the same…TRUST GODS WORD THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE!!! NOT YOUR “FEELINGS” PUT YOUR FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST AND ALL OF GODS WORD!!! THAT IS YOUR INSTRUMENTS THAT “NEVER” FAIL!!! THE LORD WILL GET YOU HOME SAFE TO YOUR ETERNAL HOME!!! PUT YOUR TRUST IN JESUS AND HIS WORD! ITS ETERNAL AND NEVER FAILS!!
Unfortunate how they showed the National Air Cargo stall at the same moment the narrator said “for an unprepared pilot, a stall can be catastrophic.” It influences you to think that specific pilot was unprepared. That couldn’t be farther from the truth. Because of ground staff mistakes and improperly secured cargo, those poor souls didn’t have the slightest chance to fight for their lives: they were low, slow and battling a huge change of moment and CG in their aircraft, at their most vulnerable moment. May they rest in peace.
The woman talking about Air France flight 447 was making it sound as if this flight got into more difficulty than what actually happened. The co-pilot messed up by putting the aircraft into a climb when it wasn't necessary. All he had to do was fly straight and level and they would've been OK. They weren't flying through severe turbulence, but through a storm that was not difficult to fly through.
You should have released the information from black boxes too.
Every airport is one of the world's busiest airport.
Not Des Moines
Was a strong updraft followed by a strong downdraft. Subsequent effect of the updraft created the stall, and the downdraft eliminated any ability to recover.
It wasn't weather related
Why Aren't the Pito tubes made more redundant, better heated, tighter watched by instruments etc?
Flying is still safer than my driving.
Not really, they just saying that because they want you to travel more and make money of you. Nothing is safer.
This plane was not authorized to climb to a higher altitude but the pilots did it anyway. Pilot error it seems is what brought this plane down. Had they stayed on coarse the stall would have been avoided.
I Question ALOT of pilots poor judgement. Maybe too many of them are packing bottles aboard.
An alcohol sensor in the cockpit would probably benefit everyone.
Can you imagine flying in darkness seeing lightning ever couple of seconds? You would be panicking
What? Where's the communications in the cockpit from the black box?
Normally the procedure for stall recovery is to immediately push the nose forward (reduce angle of attack for both better airflow and be able to use the control surfaces) and increase engine power.
This breaks down unfortunately when the angle of attack is so extremely high that you neither have enough relative flow to even use control surfaces to pitch the nose down nor are your engines powerful enough to compensate. (think an airliner attempting to climb vertically as the most extreme example)
Ideally an airplane's aerodynamics can recover even from this on their own by spinning down enough for the nose down pitch... but it will only work if you have sufficient altitude for such recovery and the pilots don't try to override it.
I'm not blaming pilots in most situations on this. Most of the time they have limited time to diagnose any crisis and recognize the correct input, no different than a surgeon doing their job on an operating table for an emergency patient.
How could a pilot try to override it? and why would they attempt to?
I would argue there not that similar. A surgeon has a series of staff around him to
Aid. Plus their on the ground and know their own lives are not on the line.
If your over 30 thousand feet and can’t recover a stall effectively regardless of weather conditions before hitting the ground then your not worthy of flying a plane. The pilots in this case were 100% at fault. You should be able to fly a plane from A to B without electronics or at least minimal electronics, GPS and altitude only for example. This should not have happened.
Incorrect investigation report.
Wiki:In December 2015, the Indonesian National Transportation Safety Committee (KNKT or NTSC) released a report concluding that a non-critical malfunction in the rudder control system prompted the captain to perform a non-standard reset of the on-board flight control computers. Control of the aircraft was subsequently lost, resulting in a stall and uncontrolled descent into the sea.
Great vidéo
thanks
stall recovery in storm is different than in normal conditions, i have seen storm in food item and it moves in the pattern of heat and energy movement, away
Remember, when you get a wing stall, let the wing dip, turn into it, dive to gain speed, level out, live.
perhaps this also happen for recent Airplance crash SJ-182 (Sriwijaya Air : Jakarta - POntianak)
my mom almost got into the flight if it wasnt for her annoying boss not giving her a vacation TL;DR : your boss is not always bad
Perfectly described 🔎
I remember that december 2014 is the date when massive flood happened in Malaysia. The weather was extremely cold.
By this investigation I decided roadways, railways and waterways are better than airways
Not true at all.
"They can literally just put on the Autopilot and it is that easy"! I am a first officer flying airliners and I want to put this woman on the chair and let her fly my aircraft as it is SO EASY! These so-called "experts" make me so upset. No clue about anything!
Exactly i was so speechless 😶 i have no idea what made her so confident to utter such a fool statement 😂
good work
It's sad that PITOT STSTIC systems have never undergone any changes since beginning of aviation !
All Pilots should learn to fly gliders first! You learn to trust your judgement, and use the instruments, not the other way around. You get one chance in a Glide, no go arounds.
But in the dark or in clouds instruments are FAR more reliable than your judgement - that's why pilots are trained to depend on them in IFR. Gliders don't fly in IFR.
@@kenoliver8913 IFR FAR KLM WTF ABC CNN .... IFR = in effing reality? In infra red ? in fog rain? Am I getting warm? AIGW?
@@blancaroca8786 "Instrument Flight Rules"=fog or cloud. As against VFR="Visual Flight Rules". Any pilot will know what thjey mean.
@@kenoliver8913 I'm not sure you got my meaning! If analogue gauges are spinning, they immediately alert you to the problem, seeing the numbers going up or down the LCD display is not as intuitive. I look at analogue gauges and trust them, peto tubes and computer interpretations are often at odds!
“The shocking truth is, an Air Asia-type event could happen anywhere in the world today”
So, the pilot told the 1st officer to pull down and he pulled back. If the pilot had said push down, would the plane most likely been saved? There were a number of factors or failures involved and it seems this is a common thread in every accident.
along with satellite, try buoy, floating solar fitted systems which work for ships and planes together, on key routes
26:20 it literally said that? 😂
LOL
Emergency or not, It would still be rude to sign off without a word. And it didn't take much extra engineering to implement the feature. They just reused old bits from the "don't sink, I'm confused" and "one thousand - I quit" alerts.
@@perarheim1255 hahaah
@@perarheim1255 she doesn't know what the word "literally" means
Invisible turbulence?! See, that's why I am afraid of flying. When I drive, I don't have to worry about invisible vehicles.
Air travel is the safest mode of transport still. The reason that the news talks so much about plane crashes is because they are so rare.Although I got your joke.Got a good chuckle out of it
@@dude_whats_even_happening everyone always says that but it gives me no comfort. If something, anything happens in a plane it is a terrifying event. I would rather just not travel so much in general. Also I’d like to see the stats saying trains are more dangerous than planes.
@@penyarol83 If it's deaths per billion miles flown then planes win. But if it's deaths per journey then trains are nearly 6 times safer.
@@penyarol83 In 2021, 893 people died in railway-related accidents in the US. Of that 893, 20% were trains crashing into either vehicles or people who were crossing the rails so only 714 people died on the trains themselves.
By contrast, 134 people died in comercial flights during the same year (2021) WORLDWIDE. Since the above numbers of railroad deaths are for the US only, I searched for death statistics of flying in the US too. These are the results:
"The lifetime odds of dying as an aircraft passenger in the United States were too small to calculate. The number of civil aviation deaths decreased from 452 in 2020 to 349 in 2021. All but one of the 349 deaths in 2021 were onboard fatalities. None of these deaths involved a commercial airline. Major airlines (scheduled service) experienced no onboard fatality and a fatal accident rate of 0.0 per 100,000 flight hours in 2021."
TL;DR of the above text: 349 private pilots died while flying their planes, but no passanger plane/comercial airline had any fatalities.
So in terms of pure, raw numbers flying beats every single other method of transportation out there. There is no one that comes even closer. But as Fati Fleur posted, the problem comes comes when you take a look at these statistics in terms of "how many died per instance of travel". Most of these 714 deaths aboard trains were "individual". Something happened and a person died while other passangers probably never learned of the fact that someone died at all. While on the other hand almost half (62) of the 134 deaths worldwide were from a single crash: Sriwijaya Air Flight 182.
Put another way: You have more chances of traveling on a train where someone dies but nothing happens to you specifically, while your chances of traveling on a plane that has fatalities is far, far smaller, but your chances of dying on such a plane are far higher.
@@LetztezBatallion yeah. No flying for me. I'm a primate, not a bird. Thanks.
It's always "one of the world's busiest airports" or one of the "worlds most popular planes" What planes are not popular?
Pilot didn't have experience to understand that loss of airspeed would accelerate faster at a higher altitude with the nose pitched up
Damn, Indonesia has the like the most crashes in the 21st century.
Wow...did we really need a 20 minutes diversion in the middle of the program to illustrate what a "stall" means?
This science channel special "AirAsia 8501: Anatomy of a Crash" from one year after the accident really shows how media reporting and public perception can be far off of what truly happened. Many of the theories presented read more like fearmongering and sensationalism instead of good journalism and measured analysis.
The true cause was MUCH scarier: Pilots violating protocols and basically "turning it off and turning it on again" when they shouldn't/couldn't.
Compare and contrast this "documentary" with the actual Air Crash Investigations episode "Deadly Solution".
This really exemplifies how conclusions made by the public and the media before a final report is out does more harm than good.
This documentary keeps saying "Weather was a factor"
Final report: "Weather was not a factor."
there are ways to cut down processes from flight manual, automate them and reduce decision time & burden, need flight simulator with checklists executed to think more