Flight 881: What Went Wrong? I Mayday: Air Disaster
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- Опубликовано: 3 мар 2021
- United Airlines Flight 811 was a regularly scheduled airline flight from Los Angeles to Sydney, with intermediate stops at Honolulu and Auckland. On February 24, 1989, the Boeing 747-122 serving the flight experienced a cargo door failure in flight shortly after leaving Honolulu. The resulting explosive decompression blew out several rows of seats, resulting in the deaths of nine passengers. The aircraft returned to Honolulu, where it landed without further loss of life.
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The audio engineer that mixed this clearly thought the sound of airplanes was more interesting than whatever the narrator had to say.
Well he is right
Hahaha i thought the same hahaha
I was going to comment the same lol
FR 🤣🤣🤣
He wanted to give us the same experience as a real pilot during depressurization lmao
Can we just take a second to appreciate the thought pattern of the person mentioned around the 18:00 mark? They thought they were about to die, and they took pictures. They took pictures because they hoped, if they didn’t make it, that their pictures might have been found and might have been useful. I really respect everyone who was on that flight, especially the crew, but imagine taking pictures in order to try and help even if you didn’t make it. That’s really fascinating to me.
Someone on Japan airlines flight 123 did so too
This reminds me of Reid Blackburn. He was a photojournalist stationed just 8 miles from Mount St. Helens the day it erupted. He knew he couldn't escape the pyroclastic flow, so he took as many photos as he could before he was killed. Unfortunately that roll was unsalvageable, but photos he took a month prior to the eruption were developed in the 2010's and served as a valuable images of a pre-eruption Mount St. Helens.
It's up there with a girl getting murdered but scratches the murderers flesh in the hopes a detective will get DNA to solve her murder. Amazing presence of mind!!🧐
That's why the people that mock others for filming or taking pictures during a disaster annoy me because those photos/videos provide really good evidence.
@@pengwens6281 you speak the truth. For a disaster photos and videos help everyone. If it was one of my loved ones I would love to have a last photo of them
The guy who was taking a vacation to get away from all the stress of aircraft accidents, that’s a sick twist of fate. Rest In Peace to all those souls.
Think he was really meant to be on it though..
Irony.
@@mamac6836 No one is meant to be on a plane with a problem like this.
@@sludge4125 *death has entered the chat*
The aviation attorney? The one who blinks faster than he speaks? That's definitely interesting.
Imagine that it took 10 years to the NTSB to admit that it was a major flaw that caused this terrible event ,because of the Campbells relentless fight....
Imagine how many other secrets are there that the public doesn't know about flaws in the design of these things.
I stated in a different reply that Mr. Campbell was an engineer. Based on the paperwork they took, he figured out what the mechanism was that likely caused the breach, built it, and provided a solid, logical, researched, and educated explanation of that mechanism, its purpose, its failing, and why it failed....and in MUCH MUCH less time than the NTSB.
. . . imagine that it isn't the "NTSB" (or what ever organisations) to finally find out things or give answers - it still are single human beings (sometimes within organisations) who make their own conclusions and / or decisions according to their own motivations (good or bad) . . .
Putting me our my family into the same situation, we would never have found out all this info simply because of money. I’d never had enough money to do half the good work they have done.not only that, we need to thank them over and over for all the lives they have SAVED that we don’t even know about be cause of all the crashing they have prevented.
@@chuckhembree6101 ..... Chuck, that was my first thought. The typical family members/surviving spouse do not have the resources (time and or money) to embark on their own full fledge investigation. Thankfully the Campbells had the time and resources to travel back and forth from their home to the United States (coast to coast) in order to perform their investigation. I surely hope that the Campbells were and continued to be thanked by not only the rest of the surviving passengers AND the families of the other passengers that met the same fate as their son did.
A self taught NTSB investigator knows more about door locks than the NTSB. Never underestimate the determination of a parent who has lost a child.
It's not that the NTSB ddin't know, it was a deliberate cover up to help airlines delay repairs so they wouldn't have to ground planes out of schedule.
The Boeing probably slid couple million dollar checks to these NTSB investigators.
@@josanrishi NTSB can't ground planes, they can only recommend safety precautions, but no authority to enforce them, that's up to the FAA.
@@partariothegoth research how many ex Boeing employees are employed at the FAA
@spiderman home< the 747 is a strong aircraft, the same happen once to a mcdonalds aircraft and it fell apart
A huge reason why they were able to land this plane is because there were THREE experienced aviators in the cockpit. The pilot concentrated on FLYING THE PLANE while the co-pilot and flight engineer took care of the trouble shooting and all other controls. Team work saved this plane.
It is so beautiful to see people being excellent at their job
Yahweh saved that plane.
@@coreyhereagainit was definitely the pilots.
@dirt6593 and it was definitely God's help for making them pilots
Everyone who has ever flown on a United Airlines plane owes Lee's parent a debt of gratitude. Their tenacity likely saved other travelers from a similar fate. I am so very sorry for their loss but happy they saw this through and found out what happened to that plane.
It wasn't just United planes, but all 747s of the time with all the airlines had these doors and latches.
@@ruthgar9753Boeing 😅😅😅😅 dream-shattered
Who knew a mum and dad got in on the case and it all worked out? Wow. They deserve serious respect
Mom against evil corporate greed
When a parent is in the grips of grief over their child, there is no limit to how far they'll go to get answers.
Those parents are absolute heroes. The love for their son, indescribable.
Amen.
7K..77
Rest In Peace Lee Campbell. Be proud of your parents. Everyone who files today should be.
I would describe it as ravenous and unwaivering.
That's called being a parent I know in our world today its foreign but honestly that's how everyone should react.
Damn, the tenacity of Lee's parents is astounding! To do the whole investigation literally on their own and to make replicas of the locking mechanism and had their theories tested on the planes themselves!!! Condolences for these two but that's such a feat nonetheless!
@Paul Veitch, the parents who became involved in the investigation , we're amazing... But they were NOT the only people who were involved with this investigation... They did their OWN research from what they knew about what caused this to happen , yes... But MANY people worked on the cause, and the sollution to this huge potential problem with these planes...
I can understand them so well. The helplessness must be paralyzing. They needed sth to DO to process that abominable grief
@@michaelmartinez1345 can you atleast concede that it was their persistence that got even the NTSB to change their report which sort to somehow absolve Boeing? How can the NTSB tell them that they were right but the report wont be changed? Really?
@@musicadmirer8764 yes.
May Lee Rest In Peace.
Those parents deserve the gold medal for heroism . They've save millions of lives
Millions?
@@gailkoch-ashing9951 millions, actually billions, of people have flown on 747s in the past few decades.
the pilots and flight attendants did amazing, some people did die which is tragic but that fact that not everyone died is really a miracle. big respect for Lee's parents, i hope all the families will get peace ..
My husband who used to be an airplane mechanic for American said this was a classic case that has been used throughout the airline industry. Thankful for the Cambells!
I just love how they tried to blame the ramp guy and say it was human error instead of design flaws and greed. Classic coverup is to blame the little guy
You mean by Beoing
Corporate greed at its finest
Yes Campbells effort is appreciated
Safety is ignored because of greed. We can always be vigilant and thankful for the example of the Campbells. Never ever ever take the word of corporates to prioritize #1 to be in your best interest. Its always the love of money.
At certain points the background noise was much louder than the narrator.
I noticed that too. Yours is the first comment about this problem, had methinking it was just my computer that was having a problem.
I noticed that too
True...the editing of the background sound and the speaker's voice was not well done
Yep!
I had to use the cc sometimes
I am a QA inspector at Boeing, 34 years. I have so many mixed feelings about the company, the company I love and has given me many opportunities. It's as though our production system and corporate system is working against us. We have poor leadership, and an exaggerated focus on profit, but I try my best to remain objective about why I am there. I've seen the CFO sent to prison (Mike Sears) over corruption, yet gross negligence by high ranking 737 Max executives results in catastrophic loss of life and yet those responsible remain unaccountable. I can't type enough concise words to describe how conflicted I am at times.
Such a shame that stock holders and CEO's will do anything to cut corners to save one penny. The bigger the company, the worse they seem to be in my opinion.
At the end of the day, it's the stakeholders and 1% capitalists who reign Supreme. Life? Tragedy? They couldn't possibly care less so long as it isn't their lives at risk. Greed will always dictate the delta of important decision making
Thank you for sharing so honestly. I've been a healthcare exec for years and see so many things that concern me but which even as CEO I can't control because our billion dollar health system controls everything. I applaud you and appreciate that you're doing what you can to keep the public safe in the midst of that environment.
@@ethanswimmer1287 there’s already a documentary about this on Netflix called Downfall
Do the right thing. To be right with God. Become a Whitsle Blower. Based on the real facts of negligence. Or hide the truth by drinking alcohol and drowning out your guilt by covering up all the lies. The lies that will kill innocent people. Because of airlines trying to save money from not replacing parts or neglecting to fix bad areas that need to be changed and modified. If you cover the truth. Then deep inside you will live with this guilt. Lives saved are much more important then big money and profits.
a moment to appreciate the stewardess that removed her seat belt, stood up and was giving instructions still when the plane was falling 👏
Bangness!
I thought the same thing! She was incredibly brave!
Never ever underestimate the power of a parent's love for their child. The Campbells were absolutely relentless and never stopped until they got the correct outcome. Much respect to those two. I hope they were able to find peace in the end.
Absolutely. What great parents.
Yepp all they wanted was the truth and prevent it to happen again
@@tendaiduve9485 Hopefully you noticed they where not sitting beside each other.A childs death ends a marriage.
@@anonymousxish No, they were sitting next to each other around the 29:45 mark. Of course, that's not really proof that they're still married, just proof they were interviewed together.
Similarly, never underestimate the greed of large corporations
The Campbells couldn't save their son, but imagine how many people they have. They are the heroes for us all.
Absolutely!!!
SHAME ON BOEING!!! THEY SHOULD HAVE, "LED THE PACK...WITH CLASS, INTEGRITY, AND PRAISE!!!"
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Just imagine how corrupt must these organizations be, to try and cover up such a huge flaw in the design of these aircrafts.
makes me wonder about what other flaws they are hiding.
I seriously doubt it's corruption. I think it's more a case of, as the lawyer said at the end, putting economics before safety. And to a degree I see the point. No good having an aircraft that doesn't have any issues if the cost of that aircraft puts flying out of the reach of the people who wish to fly. We can build machines that don't break, they are just too expensive for people to buy. But in this case, something as serious as that should have been dealt with much quicker...
@harry w and Chris, this was not caused by corruption.... The materials and equipment used to build these planes is definitely the best products available.... What ACTUALLY caused this was probably a false ground from an isolated ground triggering circuit associated with the actuation of the cabin -pressure relief door latch on the outside of these doors ... It was NOT a mistake of the ground crews or the mechanics, as the NTSB incorrectly suggested... A design oversight that was probably inadvertantly made with the electrical system , which probably caused this to happen... That is probably what caused this... And by opening some circuit breakers in the fwd. E&E compartment that provide electrical power to those door latch actuator motors, (747-100 & -200) the problem will NOT occur again in flight.... I'm sure that Boeing improved that system on the later models of the 747's... BUT, I have to tell you, of all the airliners that have ever flown, the 747's were the very best of ALL of them... NO doubt about it...
@@michaelmartinez1345 I've worked on the 'test and repair' side of engineering for over 40 years, and it's very very rarely a single fault that causes this sort of failure, it's usually a series of small faults that if any one wasn't present, nothing would have happened. Here the 'guilty parties' were the failed isolation and the aluminium c-locks. Had the locks been made of steel (as the retrofit locks were!) or the electrical isolation actually isolated, then we wouldn't be discussing anything. Since the incident, I believe both problems have been resolved.
@@harryw9598 just wait for the inevitable loss of life that will occur when boeing cuts costs again, and then you'll know
Pilots and crew members were outstanding. This documentary is exceptionally well done--so impressed with the parents' tenacity in proving their son's death was due to the airline's negligence.
@Cat Briggs, That comment was nice, until approaching the end of it , NOTHING could be further from the Truth. ... UAL has the best mechanics, the best inspectors, the best equipment, the best facilities of Any place that I ever have worked at.... If there is a problem to be taken care of on UAL planes, they are ON IT... The 747 had an inherent design flaw that was taken care of, as soon as the actual cause of it was discovered... The Campbell's had helped with that discovery , and they are amazing people to have stuck with that investigation....But we definitely took care of things at UAL, and they still do...
It’s also a miracle that it just happened to of happened next to Hawaii. A small refuge in the massive Pacific Ocean
Those parents WERE NOT going to be denied.
Those parents WERE NOT going to be denied.
@@kadenwolf5798 The Campbell's were amazing people... And from what I have learned, so were the people at UAL , the people at Boeing and the U.S. NAVY (who found , located and recovered that door on the ocean floor)...
When an airline put the costs of repairs and safety over the safety of their passengers, they don't deserve to be in business.
Airlines, yes. But the real criminal is Boeing. I don't even want to fly on their slapped together aircraft anymore. This program set the stage for the doomed 737 MAX. FAA needs to be completely revamped.
Yeah they dont care, the costs are too big to do it right, besides, the INSURANE will cover all the lawsuits and costs, and they'll get a new plane out of the settlement
This is how refineries often operate, pedal to the metal until it blows.
Then routinely fix up and make improvements with insurance money.
Since insurance companies pool resources , that means your insurance money too.
More examples of the burden loaded on the beasts, the plebs, the rafish grindstone nosers.
@@x1achilles99 Yes, they're still doing it with the 737 MAX.
It's not quite so simple, but this type of modification should've been made immediately
This story breaks my heart. This was preventable. His death wasn’t in vain. Those parents love for their child and in finding the truth saved countless lives.
To be honest, they had the funds a lot of people would have loved to do the same in the past, they just had not had the money
It wasn’t really preventable
It was either the risk of everyone dying from a lightning strike or this
That's the thing, we will NEVER know how many have been saved
@@toxicclixz7693 I don't think lighting strikes on a plane would kill people tbh, but on the other hand it's possible you may be referring to smth I haven't seen in the vid yet.
This is incredible. Bawled like a baby seeing mum and dad invest so much of themselves into finding out what happened to their boy and then being validated. So much love and hurt.
The parents are the most dedicated parents i've ever seen, they spent so much time and money, fought with the government, boeing just to avenge their child's death, i salute to these parents
Lee's parents probably learned way more about airplanes than they care to know, but I admire their tenacity! Well done!
Just imagine what it took to understand anything.. all the new terms, routines, tech, etc etc
And never giving up, just continued & never had doubt in themselves & their cause..
What love can aspire...
Lee parents should NOT be concerned as to how he died that is NOT important only have comfort in Jesus knowing that Lee is with Jesus in his kingdom for ever and that they will see him again for this is important
I couldn’t imagine the pain thinking your child was in a plane and all of a sudden he fell five miles to his death😢. Incomprehensible…
@@cherylthrasher2296 It's not really up to you how people deal with their grief. If Jesus comforts you, great. But Lee's parents NEEDED to know to find peace, they needed to understand and it's not very Christian of you to judge them or tell them how to cope. They likely saved many lives with their investigation.
@@cherylthrasher2296 wouldn’t you like to know how your family members died? You wouldn’t go to the ends of the earth to see if they suffered or not? Or if it was caused by someone else? That’s what Jesus would’ve wanted. For you to care!
“I know what flames in the engine means..”
“Its not good”
😩😩😩
@Jeffery Nardi In this case, I don't think that is a fair comment. It was implied quite clearly that he had handled many, many aviation accident cases and through that experience and his research, he would be very knowledgable about the implications of such issues. He was clearly understating but not exaggerating the fact as he would also have learnt that aircraft are under most circumstances are capable of flying with the loss of an engine. Furthermore, he only spoke of his experience in relation of UA811 from the point of view of a passenger on that plane and the circumstances of why he was on that plane. I'm afraid that in this instance, it is you that has come over as a 'no-brain' person.
brain surgeon
There are flames in the engines from engine start to shutdown. It’s how they make thrust.
Watch some videos of the B-1 bomber taking off. There's some flames shooting out the engines. But if flames are coming out not as designed then yep you have issues.
I think that it's wonderful that the father got to the bottom of what really happened. You have to find the weakness to make it better.
During the Vietnam War my father made parts for the Huey Helicopter. He saw a weakness in the door that would slow the men down getting in and out. So he made a better part and they put it on all the Huey Helicopters. It saved several lives and he was given an award.
Don't forget to include Lee's mother as well
Well done your Father God bless him
Mad respect to Pilots for staying calm through this chaoes and Goodness these parents taking on an entire industry that there is guts
The Captain and crew are really true heroes in this whole debacle and accident. They got every surviving passenger back to the ground safely in absolutely horrendous conditions. So sorry for the loss of life.
A hero is a person who puts their own life in jeopardy to save others. The pilots did not do this. They just did what they were trained to do. They did not have the option to do anything else, which would save there own life, but not the passengers.
@@ronalddump4061
You just made that definition up.
I was on that plane but I parachuted. I always travel with a parachute for safety reasons.
@@juanpedro4083 cap
They were under extreme duress, a situation they NEVER thought they’d fly in and they handled it so well. As did cabin crew. Thinking you’re going to die but still taking care of the passengers, allowing all that training to shine through. So yes, so many heroes on that flight. May all the souls lost that day Rest In Peace
Can you imagine the extreme horror of falling out of an airplane midair ! Those final moments before falling to your death is what mostly terrifies me !
Maybe it’s in slow motion, and very beautiful, without fear or pain..
In this particular case I try to tell myself that the high altitude probably caused them to black out from lack of oxygen and they were unconscious when they hit the water. At least I hope so. I pray so.
@@gnosticmom2805 Even if the high altitude would have knocked them out, as soon as they fell to 30,000 they'd have woken up as the air is then breathable. They god help them, would have been wide awake :(
@@gnosticmom2805 I doubt they were conscious of it, I would imagine it would be a crazy amount of G forces applied to a seat yanked from an aircraft at 23k ft. Combined with the lack of oxygen and having to pass over a wing and two engines, I seriously doubt they had time to feel a thing. It was most likely mercifully quick. At least I hope so.
At least it's gotta be better than drowning in a damaged ship because you went the wrong way to evacuate didn't have time to get you before they had to close the hatch to stop the water flooding the whole ship.
If the people didn't have their seatbelts on, this disaster would've been way deadlier. Such a small decision by the pilot saved so many lives.
I think most flights suggest to keep seatbelts on even if the light is off. Obviously for situations such as this. I know I keep my seatbelt on the whole flight.
@@darkraiking680 Well, obviously because turbulence, more than anything
These two parents have saved millions of lives by their research and their persistence. Absolute amazing and inspiring!
Millions? That's an exaggeration.
@@homeofthemad3044 An exaggeration?
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Let's estimate:
A total of 168 747-100s were built
Full capacity: 366 passengers + crew
Average hours until ground maintenance: 400 hrs.
Average flight time: 5 hrs. at day
So a Boeing 737-100 series can fly at most 1,464 people in one day. In the allotted time till maintenance is needed is 23,424 people been on that one plane. Times that by at least 150 planes, that weren't taken out in accidents or other errors, is 3,513,600 people. Considering one 737-100 lasted 32 years...yeah I don't think it's an exaggeration even by estimation standards.
@@girl1213
That calculation only makes sense if you assume all those people would have died.
In fact, the total number of people killed in aviation in the last 50 years is only 83,772 for all planes and all causes. The idea that fixing one thing saved millions of people from dying makes no sense.
@@homeofthemad3044 not every flight will be lucky enough to safe landing. Blowing huge part of aircraft body may kill everyone unless they were really lucky. 811 was lucky to have a safe landing
@@homeofthemad3044 facts
I can’t believe no one has written a book or a movie about this. I’ve watched this episode so many times yet it never fails to effect me very much. Thanks Kevin and Susan and RIP Lee.
That pilot remaining calm is the reason he was able to land that plane! Great work
This is why pilots earn the big bucks and get so much respect. Highly skilled individuals.
In the past!!! Today take off, fly and land 100% automaticed
@@niionne6661 who taught you that?
What respect?
@ᴡɪɴᴛᴇʀᴍᴜᴛᴇ _ 174 average .
@@niionne6661 No they aren’t.
Excellent documentary, but somewhere else I saw an interview of the man who closed that cargo door, and how initially the authorities put the blame on him for allegedly mishandling the door, until these parents found the truth about the electrical fault and that baggage man was declared innocent
Yep. They made a pure scapegoat out of him and for 3 years that poor baggage handler had to live with the needless guilt of taking the lives of 9 people. Luckily he was vindicated but at an awful cost to his mental health.
@@musefan12345 yeah in fact I think I saw somewhere the moment that baggage man and those parents met after finding the truth
Didn't know that, thanks for posting.
Sad because they knew the problem was not the ground crew, but they planned to throw him under the bus for it.
When I started as a mechanic at United Airlines, one of our training films blamed him too. They said he didn't properly check the latch indicators. Imagine being falsely blamed for something this big. I feel bad for the guy.
49:49 what he is referring to is a type of electrical insulation called Kapton. It was heralded as a super insulator when first developed due to its ability to be stretched into very thin sheets, withstand high temperatures and have a huge electrical resistance up to several thousand volts per milimeter. The main issue is that as Kapton based insulation ages it become very brittle and easily damaged. It was used in everything from military helicopters, commercial aviation, to space probes.
Now we have soy based insulation in Teslas and other cars that rodents find delicious.
Both pilots and the engineer did a great job handling this situation.
They literally stole the official documents 😂 some cool parents right there. deserve everyone's respect. RIP for your son 🙏
I commend the Campbell's for their efforts & determination. Their son's
tragic destiny led to the saving of thousands of lives. Mr. & Mrs. Campbell,
Your son is a Hero & along with both of you deserve an award of the highest standing. God Bless you.
The sad reality is that NTSB and Boeing will have so many awards, but not the Campbells. I am sure the Boeing executives got bonuses for successfully keeping this under the carpet for so long.
@@kbboy101 Sounds like where I used to work. Administration the swept everything under the rug. They even kept us from knowing there were 2 infected visitors due to the covid. This was a year ago.
Well said, I totally agree
@@charlesfuentes3695
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@@charlesfuentes3695
Regarding your OP, the son Lee isn’t a “hero.” All he did was board a plane and got sucked out of it to his death. Misusing the term hero diminishes the value of the description for those that actually are heroes. Kind of like when people call everything “racist.” It diminishes the power of such descriptions.
Regarding your later comment about the sham “CV-l9,” just 🙄🙄🙄.
Those parents going on what I can only describe as a crusade, while staying so level headed is incredible.
Imagine having the presence of mind while you believe you're dying to take pictures, so that maybe someone else won't
Usually, we speak of parents being proud of their children, but the Campbells were parents to proud of. They had lost their son, but fought to ensure he didn’t die in vain. I hope the years have brought them some comfort.
Knowing that they prevented future disasters probably helped.
Lee's parents should have been compensated for the costs involved regardless of whether they wanted it or not.
Absolutely. Not only did they investigate the issue, they ended finding the real problem.
They declined to take money and requested that the airline fund a scholarship in their sons name. This was explained near the ending.
From their interview bits, you can see that they live in one of the wealthiest suburbs in New Zealand (Oriental Bay). Not saying they didn’t deserve the money, they probably just felt that they didn’t need it.
Why do you think airlines try to hide them being at fault for air disasters so they won’t be held liable and have to pay out monetarily, I understand his parents wanting the truth and justice more than money but whenever you let these big corporations get away with things without making them pay monetarily they’ll remain lax and continue to let things like this happen even with the scholarship in their sons name they still should’ve made them pay up so it sends the message every time you let things like this happen your gonna have to pay big time out of your pockets and I guaranteed they’ll do more to keep their planes safe cause big corporations hate losing money
@@caseydalton316 Thanks for the additional information. Its extremely rare that people truly are only interested in fact finding and correction/justice. Many say they want justice but they're lying out both sides of their mouth. As soon as they get the money that "justice thing" disappears. Working with business owners on fraud was the same way. They'd be ranting on the phone about "justice being done" but when the check writer or embezzler gave them the money, you couldn't drag the business owners to court with a tractor.
Can we for a moment appreciate the pilots who saved most of the people. I just can't imagine what those passengers were going through nor try and pretend. Bravo to all the victims who had the courage to come on and talk about it and bravo to Lee's parents. A man who predicted his own death. :( very tragic all in all.
The Campbells are amazing parents. My heart is broken for them and for everyone who lost people in that accident.
The Lee's parents decication is insane. This is crazy, well done.
It's the love of a parent. We've seen it many times from the parents who created a cure for their son's disease (Lorenzo's oil) to these parents whose dogged determination saved other lives. 🙏❤️
Thats love.
Q
I was on that plane but I parachuted. I always travel with a parachute for safety reasons.
Determined to not have your child die in vain
The plane's cockpit was literally held together by a small portion of the fuselage with the rest of the plane. Now this is a miracle....
If it weren't for that upper deck the plane would've probably broken apart like opening a can.
Same thing happened to an Aloha Airlines flight. The whole top of the fuselage blew off with the floor plates holding the plane together
@@thedesertrat_9514 i recall watching it. But I'm thinking who wants to go to Disney land after being in a flight like this.
The daredevilry in me won't mind being in one if i can come out alive. (;
@@ibelongtojesus0316 There are never guarantees in situations like this. God called Lee Cambell to him to save thousands of lives, but 8 others came with him. In my mind those 9 people, in God's presence, were ok with that.
I have a son who flies all the time for his job. I pray for him all the time I can’t imagine what she went through. I know my son is afraid of the ocean. I can’t imagine him like that. The idea of that just disturb the hell out of me..
The family that did the investigation because of their son were amazing, I often think the airlines think they can do a settlement and it’ll come out cheaper than actually fixing the airplane. It’s a sick way of thinking, but I suspect it’s true.
disturbs*
was* amazing
There should be a 100 million dollar fine for every aircraft that goes down. Half paid by the manufacturer and half by the airline.
This is hands down the most intriguing and intense episode I’ve seen from y’all. Thank you for sharing this knowledge.
Captain Dave Cronin passed away from a heart attack in 2010 at the age of 81. He was an awesome guy I met him few times at the Reno air races.
What a great Pilot he and his crew achieved an amazing landing, giving the mass of problems.
Captain Cronin would fly gliders in Arizona. Before the United flight, he took my son up and the people on the ground told me his background. Because of age, he was forced into retirement. It was his experience that saved that flight.
He was a racer? He's braver than I am.
I always say the pilots and staff on board an airplane are pretty darn brave because no matter how safe an airplane is, when you’re on one for most of the hours of in a day every day your chances of hitting the odds of something like this go way up, and they know it.
There is a good reason they are proclaimed as Knights in the Sky
The parents doing the investigating are BOSS!
Admirable effort(Campbell) speaking from a parent’s point...
You two are beyond AMAZING! KUDOS!!! I mean your persistence and commitment are extraordinary! My congratulations and blessings. 👏👏👏👏🔯✝️☮️💟
They should be given more recognition, not just for what they did for their son, but for what they did for their fellow man. And yes,
"They're Awesome!!!"
Do you people really condone to stealing all the NTSB's papers and impeding a federal investigation? I wonder what you all will have to say when one of your loved ones died in an aircraft accident and someone steals all the papers regarding it.
@@mom5catskyle596 their son was stolen from them, by the very same organization whose financial interests would benefit from those files not being stolen from that room. I'd call it justice, what do you call it?
How the nose of this aircraft still remained attached to the fuselage and didn't break off like Flight 103 is beyond me.
Lee's parents have truly honored their son well. Very courageous. Peace to them
being asked "How many souls onboard" and answering we are too busy is a very realistic scenario
I know right? I heard that and my immediate thought was, we're actively trying to save the airplane and its passengers. Your "soul count" can wait. That's non-critical information then can get from the passenger manifest after the fact.
@@kenzito6753 the reason may be because the evacuation team needs to know how many passengers they need to get out of a potential wreckage. If a few passengers were trapped in a small space it is vital information to know, so they can keep finding.
@@jayt6297 ok, understood but nothing is more important in that moment than saving lives and landing the plane safely. I believe your info is good and assuming they have the time to do a headcount but that wasn’t the situation and was made clear to the tower.
@@kenzito6753 true true
@@kenzito6753 the reason they ask for souls on board is so they can have appropriate medical personnel on scene to handle the number. If you call for one ambulance but have a plane full of 300 hundred injured passengers then you’re gonna have a big problem
So proud to be a New Zealander. The pilots saved so many but these amazing parents, even though they had lost their son saved many, many more. Thank you
You can blame the airlines for trying to save money, but there is another side to that story... blame the passengers for wanting to save money.
It’s insane to me how much the voices and efforts of two grieving parents were able to accomplish.
Imagine the terror they must have felt going home. They landed in Honolulu unless they used a boat they had to get on a plane to get home. That's terrifying.
Oh hell no. I’d be like I live in Honolulu now.
I was on that plane but I parachuted. I always travel with a parachute for safety reasons.
@@c.swinford8283
Me too. Starting over, cuz I’m not going back on or over an ocean.
I’d be rather living in Honolulu from then on or taking a big boat, and wearing a life jacket, carrying an self inflating raft on my back and a ghb and mini oxygen tank around with me- while I sat in a life boat the whole way home- wouldn’t be taking any chances! 😂😬
@@babbling_b1239 Yep, I agree.
That moment when you realize that the "debris" that took out the engines was likely some of those nine people.
If that's true I will jump in shock
The accident reports including engine examination of number three indicated that at least one person was probably ingested by it along with aircraft components lost in the explosive decompression. I'll spare the details. Very sad event. Sincere condolences to those who lost loved ones.
@@philipr.6090 Tragic. Amen.
Wtf that's scary af!
@@philipr.6090 At the very least it was quick for this person.
Avoiding the possibility of waking up mid fall.
RIP
To the nine passengers of United Airlines Flight 811
The victims and their families, so awful... so terribly upsetting. Lee's parents are incredible, true Kiwis, going the extra mile.
Salute to these parents who saved son and daughters of many.
Cannot fathom how many lives the Lee's ended up saving. What a remarkable story.
These parents were on a mission. Great people that saved many lives, even though they lost their beloved son.
Back in the 1950’s my father was on a sea plane from Australia to New Zealand. He was going to be ships Dr on a vessel from NZ to Australia. He had to sign a form before he got on the plane saying if they had any trouble he was ok with them throwing his luggage into the sea. Bit different now, all they dump is fuel,, love this episode of ACI. Everyone does such a stellar job and so many lives are saved. Peace to the nine that died..esp Lee Campbell as he is the only one we hear about so can name, he parents are hero’s,
the worst kind of accident is one that is avoidable.
The whole economy is based on at least some "risk acceptance" as it is called. One can not stop all planes to fly nor all nuclear power plants to stop, all chemical plants to stop using explosive products, trucks to pass in the neighbourhood of schools, trains to cross bridges etc... There's a difference though between "risk acceptance" and pure greed.
Unfortunately we currently live in an intensely risk averse society, and a media more than willing to take advantage of that. Just look at how horribly we’ve dealt with Covid. A virus that has been around for a very long time, with a survival rate of 99.5%, and we act like it’s the bloody Black Death. So we willingly trade freedom for a false sense of safety. I’m not saying what this airline did was excusable, it is not. What I am saying is don’t allow others to take away your rights. Accept some risk, otherwise you won’t experience life, you’ll just exist.
@@JV-xf9ry I understand risk taking in life but in this case the fact that companies are willing to basically deliberately murder and but the lives of others at risk for a couple dollars is not right. And morally you know that’s not right. It’s easy for people to say these types of things until it affects them. It’s not right and it should always be called out. Letting greed sacrifice the lives of hundreds is mind boggling to justify. And for your take on COVID-19, regardless of what the media says it’s treated with seriousness because it took millions of lives worldwide in less than a year. That’s not normal and not making a big deal about doesn’t change the fact how deadly it is. Ignoring something or pretending it’s not a big deal is how a lot of things get worse.
The worst kind of accident is the one that is covered-up...
Except they are children, then it’s not always the case.
Can we also talk about the aviation lawyer who so articulately and emphatically explained the corrupt perspective of the airline industry. He really gave them a major middle finger.
Honestly the choice of music is perfect
People have rightfully praised the Campbells for their relentless search for the truth.
Let us also praise the remarkable pilot and his crew ....
I praise Mr. and Mrs. Campbell for their investigating journey to saving lives of others. This is an outstanding documentary.
I give kudos to Captin Dave Cronin for saving this aircraft. How he got that airplane back to Honolulu is a miracle. God Bless him.
So very sorry for the Cambell’s loss of their son. I’m so thankful they researched not letting anything stop them. I’m sure they’re responsible for saving many other lives because of their work.
These have got to be the greatest parents in the history of parenting!
Wow amazing work.
I always feel so relieved when i see people being interviewed who were on the plane. At least then i know they didnt do a nose dive into the atlantic or something.
Also, “i know what flames in the engine means, not good!” made me giggle.
I was on a Hawaiian airlines flight from Honolulu to the Philippines in January of 1990 when this exact same problem happened to our flight. We never lost cabin pressure, but we did have to return to Honolulu. At the time, it was just considered an inconvenience. This just shows that this was a much larger problem than most people realize. We were a couple of hours over the pacific ocean before we turned around.
Was that the flight that lost the stewardess?
@@guyfaux900 no the flight you mentioned was a short flight among the islands of hawaii
"when this exact same problem happened to our flight. We never lost cabin pressure, but we did have to return to Honolulu"
Ummm, then its not the exact same problem! Losing cabin pressure is a different ballgame altogether!!!
How is it the same thing that happened if half the plane here is gone ?
@@rodneyyouplonker8312 What I mean is that the door closed but didn't latch all the way.
“By the grace of God we made it.” That courageous, exceptional pilot summed it up perfectly.
It would have been more amazing if those passengers who lost their life would have made it alive too by the grace of God.
@@tusharrrrrr all lives are lost eventually. It was their time.
@@tusharrrrrr Obviously it's beyond our understanding why things happen the way they do. Fact is, everybody goes one day. When its your time its your time and we don't get to choose how we go.
Exactly!
@@dana102083 and in such a peaceful way too. Oh wait
they never fail to find someone to blame to.. feeling sorry for the baggage man who took all the blames .. really feeling sorry for him.. hope those devil who blamed him will sleep well...
This is the real pilot episode.
The Campbells are absolutely courageous and committed people. So sorry for your loss and of the others on 811
The family of the poor guy killed had a long fight with the airline ,typically they had to fight for years before they got a positive resolution. Typical of American Airlines and the Manfucturers, Boeing, who knew that there was a weakness in the door locking system. a similar event took place when a Turkish 747 crash after take off in France, killing all onboard. Boeing are still building faulty aircraft. what is the problem with American Aircraft Builders these days?
@@terryofford4977 The Turkish crash from Paris was a DC10, not a 747! Also a door failure but not a Boeing aircraft!
@@terryofford4977 I really wonder that too. My dad actually worked for Boeing as an Aerospace engineer in the late 50's and 60's. He and his colleagues were of a different era. Genius comes to mind. Sadly, he was super smart but in a common sense way not. But these men built these planes with very little issues, The early jets were extremely reliable. But perhaps when there was something wrong it didnt become a money issue. Nowadays maybe these companies are fighting for survival and faults all become this legal issue? Way back it wouldnt destroy them nowadays to admit faults could be the end to Boeing etc??
@@terryofford4977. EveryThing Will Have Faults 🤬. You Can't Expect EveryThing To Come Off Production Lines,Ect With No Faults & Kinks. That's Why Manufacturers Do Tests After Tests,Ect Until EveryThing Is Perfect 😃
@@terryofford4977 Turkish was a DC10 not a B747.
I can't imagine being an airplane tech or mech and having the airline blame you for an incident that killed 9 people...
that poor employee probably felt just horrible with that structural failure on his shoulders.
Thank you to Mr. and Mrs. Campbell for fighting to bring the issues to light. Your work and dedication has saved many lives.
Should always hate someone who wrongs you. No forgiveness, no mercy!!!!
it blows my mind that my front door, has a lock that uses a stronger material than the lock that's meant to keep the door of a giant jet aircraft from opening mid flight
you chose to pay for a lock you may never fully need the strength of ( singular investment )
and the airline opted for a what-they-thought-was-enough ( multiple investments )
the difference is that ur a person with feelings, and the company is "the company" and it's interests are singular, money.
not defending them, but i can understand the choices that led to this.
Not too many burglars up around 13,000 feet either, so the Locks serve a different purpose on the ground, I suppose.
Weight is also a factor here. Aluminum is 4 times lighter then steel. Every piece of a plane is optimized to be as lightweight as possible so the plane can successfully fly. That's why they went with a forged aluminum design rather then a steel one. I think the material is fine, they probably didn't use enough material and made it too thin. It was also a flaw in that the design wasn't fail safe for the purpose of allowing more cargo to be loaded. Boeing should have sacrificed some cargo space designing a fail safe design and have the door open inward instead of outward. Moral of the story is, those locks are MUCH stronger then your house lock. They just weren't strong enough and the design wasn't fault proof. The pressurized cabin broke the lock...
Think of people who flew away in air.... God knows where they fell,
@@Songs-lr4wt if Lee had a window and fuselage beside him, he had to of gone down to the ocean. Unless the engine(s) sucked his seat and him through the engine with that much force.
The Campbell’s determination is so awesome & inspiring. When they took those NTSB boxes and barely escaped by seconds...driving all over the country getting answers from anyone and everyone...then Mr. Campbell figuring out the lock BY HIMSELF in his own basement??? Awesome. What have you done today?
According to the video, Mr. Campbell was an Engineer which is how he was able to do what he did. That is a man of action, who not only had an idea how it could have happened, but took that idea a step further and actually built the mechanism with a solid, educated, researched explanation of the device, its intended function, how it failed, and why. Very simple, very understandable, and in much less time than the NTSB took!
The icing on the Campbell's cake was the cargo door on the 74 at Idlewild!!!!!
Seems like they could have saved a lot of time flying around the US but they chose to drive. Interesting.
I drove my Toyota Prius to my doctor appointment, and then went through the Starbucks drive-through for an coffee. 😂😂😂😂
Praying they get better recognition for what they achieved for the son they lost. 🙏
This is the third video Ive seen of this particular event. Its interesting how each one adds their own brand of drama. Its like watching totally different airplane emergencies.
I'm so impressed with Lee's parents for doing the job the so-called experts should have done. I wonder how many lives this couple saved because of their diligence and tenacity for the truth. I don't know how these corporate CEO's live with their greedy selves. Maybe it's because their families travel on private company jets.
you know they have a solid marriage because most of the time one parent would be like lets whaterver it takes but the other says isnt and is like no dont just stop this is stupid..... but not them !
Private jets are less safe than the commercial ones, so their families would be flying less safely
I worked for 30 years as an Aero Maintenance Engineer and i will tell you all many big airline companies take huge money saving risks rendering their aircraft deadly not just unsafe to fly...i resigned eventually because of the responsibility i faced when i put my signature on legal maintenance paperwork saying my work was done as per requirements and other components within the same vicinity where visually not lockwired yet the paperwork was signed off and the plane was out to fly that very same day.
What’s the safest plane to fly?
@@frenchkiss8789 Much more important than “what airplane” is “which airline”.
@@tookitogo that’s very true. After I wrote my comment I continued researching about crashes and causes for hours and hours and found out exactly what you said. Thanks friend🌹
@@frenchkiss8789 Thanks for the kind words!!
@@tookitogo ❤️
Imagine being thrown out of a plane alive at 35k feet at night. You are suddenly alone in the sky hoping that it’s a dream.
You would lose consciousness in seconds.
@@ronalddump4061 don't think so. Those in the plane were conscious. It's really like skydiving without a parachute. True horror
@@nstl440 GeForce would knock you out, it would knock you out in seconds, or kill you, in seconds, you wouldn’t know what happend
@@fabsang fighter pilots have ejection seats and they also survive.
@@nstl440 passenger seats are not ejection seats.
The amount of effort that Lee's parents did is beyond remarkable. They did an amazing thing for thier son, other lost victims, and the survivors.
The companies that make the aircrafts to save a buck knowing it would cause harm, disgusting monsters.
"The companies that make the aircrafts to save a buck knowing it would cause harm, disgusting monsters."
Unfortunately this is the nature of industry, and to a large degree, we have nobody to blame but ourselves. How many times have you been into a shop to buy something, seen 2 products on the shelf, one clearly better than the other (and more expensive), yet still walked out with the cheaper (inferior) product? Every time you do that you're supporting the 'disgusting monsters'.
@@Chris-hx3om yes, i'm glad that you actually appreciate how the game is made
@@johnyoutuber9781 Yes, and it's a game I refuse to play. I buy the best 'value for money', which is rarely the cheapest on the shelf.
@@Chris-hx3om That is the nature of capitalism, not just the industry.
@@rhamlet5290 I said 'industry', not THE industry. I was making the distinction that was was a universal problem, not just the airlines.
Flying might be the safest mode of travel, but damn it's still scary hearing these stories.
Such a shame discovery doesn't have good shows like this anymore. Glad to find it here on RUclips.
Discovery channel is absolute trash now sadly :/
I’m thankful to have grown up with the real discovery channel when I was a kid, before reality tv garbage took over every last tv channel in existence.
These days it would be reality tv show made from this story gone woke. the captain's recreation, for instance, would be a black character to depict the heroism.
There should be a rule that if these executives make a decision to postpone replacing/fixing something on an airplane due to not wanting to lose profits, then their family members have to fly on rotation on these planes until it gets fixed. Watch how fast they will choose to fix the planes on time.
Yes the people who design /build these things ought to have their families aboard.
They do
Better if one of the victim families give them a karma present, all in person.
As an aircraft mechanic for nearly a decade, who has stood on the jet bridge as passengers boarded an aircraft that I worked on the night before, and as someone who has flown on aircraft that I had worked on the night before and signed my name in the log book, I wholeheartedly agree. Unfortunately, there are far too many who work in aviation who have never had to look someone in the eye or fly on aircraft that they themselves have taken responsibility for, and it shows.
I can only hope the ones who died didn't feel any pain. My God! This is scary
He said it was possible. It’s a four minute fall
I would be so proud if my parents went to those lengths to prove what happened and protect others
Susan and Kevin Campbell are hero’s they really are. When you look at what they did, what they spent and their tenacity and undying love for their son, it’s really inspirational.. I wonder if anyone has written a book about it all. Kevin being an engineer was a huge plus. He knew what he was talking about and even made the model to show what was wrong. When they told the story of “acquiring “ the papers I had to smile,,,”we were in the taxi and away’’’. Wow.
I worked for UAL as an A&P for 11 years... This accident happened when I was working there at the MOC - SFO... Close to where I was working, was the shop area where the pressurised fuselage doors were checked and repaired.... After that incident happened, a lot of tension was in the air , especially the door shop... The faulty S-2 switch that was described in this program, was an element of the redundant safety system, that was designed to keep this from happening... The initial cause of the electrical issue that caused the door latch cams to operate without a command to do so, to my understanding, was not determined... To correct the problem, after this incident took place, the circuit breakers (in the fwd E&E compartment) that interrupted power to the electric latch motors on the fwd. & aft cargo doors, were opened , and the orange cam-latch stripes were viewed through the small windows on the doors to line-up indicating that they are latched, before the planes (100 & 200 series 747's) were dispatched... After arrival at the plane's destination, an A&P entered into the fwd. E&E compartment , to close the circuit breakers that powered the door latch motors, and the cargo doors were then opened to access that area.... Basically, the NTSB has been known to occasionally come-up with inaccurate information of WHAT actually caused incidents like this one... Immediately, the NTSB taking the door away after it was located in the ocean, to their private labs and apparently trying to discreetly find the actual causes of what actually happened with these faulty systems causes some concerns... That leaves a LOT of suspicion , of WHY the NTSB does not fully disclose their findings to the general public, who pay for their existence. Finding problems , like what happens after an accident like this is a work of dedication and ingenuity. But there are times that the answers just aren't clear... The practice of disconnecting the circuit-breakers that power the latching motors before each flight was an excellent sollution, and that was done for the remaining time those planes served... But the failure of the supposed 'fail safe' interlocks of those latching cams, was a very serious engineering error... One that could have been corrected before these planes were dispatched for commercial use... Hopefully, this will provide insight, to the importance of testing before using...I salute The parents of passenger Lee Campbell, who followed through with their OWN investigation of how this happened... They were able to locate the cause of what actually caused this to happen. The Pilots and Flight Engineer did a great job at bringing that crippled plane back in without further loss of life... What was disturbing about all of this, is the findings of what the NTSB came-up with, and how far off they were at what ACTUALLY caused this to happen... Blaming the ground crews and the mechanics, for what was a design error of the cargo door latching mechanism...
@@3kainos, the 'plug' type of doors work very well on the smaller/narrow body planes with smaller cargo pits... But for the larger planes, like the wide body variants, they are not practical... They eat-up a lot of room to open , and that is a huge loss of payload carrying capability, and since they are curved, (as the pressurization requires them to be), there would be no way the LD-3 containers could be loaded into the pits.... Planes this size NEED containerized cargo storage, there is no getting around using containers for the cargo on big planes like these... They found what caused the problem that caused the latch's to open in flight , repaired as necessary, and made SURE that it would NOT happen again...
That's a shame that New Zealanders had to tell the US what was wrong with our planes. I commend Lee's parents for their tenacity and persistence and determination and for pressing even after the NTSB's 1st report.
Economic disaster? Proves money is the root of all evil. What about the lives of those people who are lost? God bless the Campbell's always.
Interesting fact. One of the survive passenger John Stephenson died in another plane crash 25 years later on 2014 in Australia.
Seriously! that's messed up..😳
To be involved in two accidents in your lifetime is horrendous. One would be bad enough.
@Fuzzy Butkus hats off to you Fuzzy. I don’t blame you.
... 'final destination' flicks b ringin true
@Guido Bacala ... 'final destination' flicks b ringin true