Just did my second lap on a black run on my Hardtail! Loving the HT life, I feel like I'm getting so much better than if I could just plow through everything. I may not be the fastest but I'm having a great time! Line choice is so important without any rear squish. (OTG @ Tiger Mountain)
Hardtails don't necessarily make a better rider, they just make a different rider. Knowing how to plow through chunk at high speed is a different skill set you don't get to practice as much when you're forced to choose lines carefully. I suppose it all depends whether speed is your priority.
@@CoderShare a better rider on a hardtail will always and i mean always be faster than a worse rider with whatever bike, fully or more expensive, whatever.
@@Ahayeahishere *a better rider will always, and I mean always be a better rider, no matter what they ride. 2021 where hardtailers are the new vegans and crossfitters
GMBN I would like to issue a challenge/idea: Take a bike from that is offered in AL and CF and build both to the same spec and put them head to head. See the results. Then maybe have fun with some setups from the crew to explore the capabilities of the frame/geo. My best to the team!
I'm still struggling to move from blue to red (without hospitalising myself!) Gonna keep watching in the hope that my skills almost meet my love of mountains biking!
same for my next bike park wales trip - I think/hope reds all rollable if needed or escape routes! Finding the blues pretty easy going now - think right time to try reds.
So far, this is the only channel that explains the details about trail riding, the dirt, rocks, slippery rocks, etc. Very interesting indeed and you guys are amazing! Your trail biking friend from Guimbal,Iloilo,Philippines❤
From Ohio only riden in ohio. went to Pisgah NC and the first trail my buddy made me ride was middle and lower black (black dimond) and the Bar was set from there. 🤘
You guys are so good its crazy! Ill never get there as I'm just really starting to ride trails at 41, but I'll ride my Stoic 4 on Florida trails and use my imagination to pretend I'm doing the same lines as you....LOL
I would disagree with the suggestion that everything on a red route is rollable, if you ride Bike Park Wales believing you can roll all the reds you're going to get into trouble quite quickly. I'm thinking of the drop into Bonneyville as an example, or most of the drops on Insufficient Funds, rolling some of those will lead to an 'unplanned dismount' over the bars!
Was going to type the same thing! Not just at BPW though, lots of places are making red features that are commit or crash. I'm a solid Red run rider and despite my skills getting better and my bikes being more capable than 5 years ago the trails are getting harder and I'm being sort of left behind. Using your example of BPW's Insufficient funds and Bonneyville, I could ride both of those pretty comfortably when they first opened. Now they're so much harder I avoid them. Trail builders are pushing the limits of the grading and it's in danger of leaving a lot of riders behind.
@@neildaniel8232 I always assume a rule of thumb that Blues features will always be rollable, Reds features may not be rollable but there will be a chicken run around them and Blacks features will very often be not rollable and there may not be routes around them. Inconsistency in grading between Bike Parks is a real problem. I think some of it may be due to their basing their gradings ( to some extent) on their expected rider demographic rather than a definitive system. For example, the Red trail at Haldon Forest (Devon) is an absolute doddle and really should be a Blue, but I suspect is graded up because they have lots of more 'casual' riders there, and the opposite at somewhere like BPW where they expect more experienced riders to be tackling the Reds and Blacks. The qualifiers at BPW are very good though and should leave people in no doubt what to expect. Be a nice topic for GMBN to take on maybe, inconsistency in Trial Grading with some examples shown.
@@jpg6482 The grading and trail information given at BPW are superb, and the qualifiers at the start of each run are spot on. Also, note they grade not just by colour but also by type, so 'flow' 'technical', mix of the two and have a scale within each colour, from easiest to hardest. If you like jumping they've just rebuilt A470 ( I haven't had a chance to try it yet) to really follow a clear progression with jumps getting bigger and faster as you go down the trial. If you like fast technical stuff then I would suggest Vicious Valley > Bonneyville > Insufficient Funds but beware that this combination is probably near the top end of the Red Grade (and also beware the slightly off line gap jumps at the bottom of Insufficient Funds, I hate these) so take care until you've learnt the trails. The qualifier for Bonneyville is a big horrible drop-in to flat, if you can handle this then you'll be fine on any of the other Red trial drops.
I think I’ll work on my video editing skills to make my weak MTB skills look more impressive. Slow motion and music can make virtually anything look sick!
What annoyed me as I re entered the sport was, that every area seems to have a different system. IMBA, STS, others just taking the classification from the skiing sport and so forth. In most parts of the world red means something between blue and single black (hiking/skiing). A red pro line, double orange diamonds or triple black, as far as I know is not an official thing. I personally believe in the system of the international mountain bicycling association. Maybe you can do a video for freshies how a trail actually gets it´s difficulty rating and why some crews give trails a difficulty thats exceeding the official tables.
The other difficulty is how relative ratings are. If other things in the area aren't very intense, you'll see blue or even black lines that could be considered green or green/blue. Makes it a bit harder when you're in a new area and unsure of the perspective.
I love you guys, but this video didn't say much about how to actually make that step up to black. I'd love to see more vids of you working with less skilled riders to help them progress to gnarlier terrain.
So impressive how you GMBN lot ride on the slickest, rockies, rootiest wet slopes like it‘s nothing. Most of that would be a „mehhh, maybe sometimes when it‘s dry“ for me.
I remember when I first started mountain biking I didn’t know what the colors meant, and accidentally went on a black and double black trail with my dad lol. We didn’t crash but we were sore the next few days 😂
Red to Black? Am I missing something? Red is a pro-line on our trails, you'd progress from double black to red, I wouldn't even consider touch a double-black at this point let alone a red.
The real question is what is going on with Rich`s hair ? Did he try to shave only the top or what ? A lost bet ? Or are we just used to seeing these guys in helmets, and that is simply what his hair looks like ? :D (just making sure: This is not meant to be a mean comment)
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These Black Trails probably look like fun challenges for a lot of you young people and I am happy for you. For me, at 69yrs, I am very happy with Red where I can choose to stay on the ground. Last weekend, my buddy decided to take us on a Black Trail (or maybe it was a gnarly extra steep red) - no turning back once we got into it and thank goodness it was dry or otherwise I would have been up to my ears in poison oak as I was thrown off the Trail !!! I don't see Blake or Rich in any spills. Does this mean that top riders can do these Triple Diamond Black Trails can literally fly? :)
Of course not; it's an ad for the sponsor's. I watch because I like the visual but know the content is fluff. Gotten much worse since the arrival of Rich.
It's like the Top Gear of bikes but not as good to be honest. I continue to watch because I like the presenters and I'm not a hater. The clickbait is real tho
Disagree with going down a black when you're not ready. I took my mate down some proper techy blacks, double blacks on a HT xc bike and he loved it! Proper hooked he bought a 150mm full sus and started coming every weekend, around a year to a year and a half from starting out he bought a specialised kenevo! It's literally changed his life 🤣😂🤣😂
Where you in the toilette while explaining the black trail Rich? Thats multitasking right there
I love this duo so iconic
I’ve been riding a lot on my road bike lately so I think I need to progress to green first! 😂
Naa blue first, greens nothing
Just did my second lap on a black run on my Hardtail! Loving the HT life, I feel like I'm getting so much better than if I could just plow through everything. I may not be the fastest but I'm having a great time! Line choice is so important without any rear squish. (OTG @ Tiger Mountain)
Hardtails don't necessarily make a better rider, they just make a different rider.
Knowing how to plow through chunk at high speed is a different skill set you don't get to practice as much when you're forced to choose lines carefully.
I suppose it all depends whether speed is your priority.
@@CoderShare a better rider on a hardtail will always and i mean always be faster than a worse rider with whatever bike, fully or more expensive, whatever.
@@Ahayeahishere *a better rider will always, and I mean always be a better rider, no matter what they ride. 2021 where hardtailers are the new vegans and crossfitters
GMBN I would like to issue a challenge/idea: Take a bike from that is offered in AL and CF and build both to the same spec and put them head to head. See the results. Then maybe have fun with some setups from the crew to explore the capabilities of the frame/geo. My best to the team!
I'm still struggling to move from blue to red (without hospitalising myself!) Gonna keep watching in the hope that my skills almost meet my love of mountains biking!
same for my next bike park wales trip - I think/hope reds all rollable if needed or escape routes! Finding the blues pretty easy going now - think right time to try reds.
Richard jumping skills becoming better and better
Rich sending a brown trail while phoning in his voice over
Hahaha 🤣
In Australia the trail rating system is cooked, half the blacks should be blues
Btw we go green, blue, black, double black, pro line in au
Yeah we do the same here in the pacific northwest (pro lines often being red)
@@loamymtb as a PNW rider that title threw me off, thought they meant black to red.
Same in NZ
Same in Canada Black to Red
My clavicle has made the executive decision to stay at reds for now
This video came just in time GMBN... I'm ready to take on the black trail... wish me luck
just started to do a few black ones and i did a OTB in the very last drop.... thanks for this video.
So far, this is the only channel that explains the details about trail riding, the dirt, rocks, slippery rocks, etc. Very interesting indeed and you guys are amazing! Your trail biking friend from Guimbal,Iloilo,Philippines❤
I don’t need to watch this video but I do.
I just love these people.
Dit maak niks sin nie
@@thenextgen175 ek weet
Ek het in teg dit gesktyf toe kom mnr
Ek moes toe vinnig maak
@Robért Ford ag noenoes
Awesome tips and definitely must to consider when progressing.
From Ohio only riden in ohio. went to Pisgah NC and the first trail my buddy made me ride was middle and lower black (black dimond) and the Bar was set from there. 🤘
You guys are so good its crazy! Ill never get there as I'm just really starting to ride trails at 41, but I'll ride my Stoic 4 on Florida trails and use my imagination to pretend I'm doing the same lines as you....LOL
Wow! This video had me thinking I was watching a movie! Super job guys!
I would disagree with the suggestion that everything on a red route is rollable, if you ride Bike Park Wales believing you can roll all the reds you're going to get into trouble quite quickly. I'm thinking of the drop into Bonneyville as an example, or most of the drops on Insufficient Funds, rolling some of those will lead to an 'unplanned dismount' over the bars!
Was going to type the same thing! Not just at BPW though, lots of places are making red features that are commit or crash. I'm a solid Red run rider and despite my skills getting better and my bikes being more capable than 5 years ago the trails are getting harder and I'm being sort of left behind. Using your example of BPW's Insufficient funds and Bonneyville, I could ride both of those pretty comfortably when they first opened. Now they're so much harder I avoid them. Trail builders are pushing the limits of the grading and it's in danger of leaving a lot of riders behind.
@@neildaniel8232 I always assume a rule of thumb that Blues features will always be rollable, Reds features may not be rollable but there will be a chicken run around them and Blacks features will very often be not rollable and there may not be routes around them. Inconsistency in grading between Bike Parks is a real problem. I think some of it may be due to their basing their gradings ( to some extent) on their expected rider demographic rather than a definitive system. For example, the Red trail at Haldon Forest (Devon) is an absolute doddle and really should be a Blue, but I suspect is graded up because they have lots of more 'casual' riders there, and the opposite at somewhere like BPW where they expect more experienced riders to be tackling the Reds and Blacks. The qualifiers at BPW are very good though and should leave people in no doubt what to expect. Be a nice topic for GMBN to take on maybe, inconsistency in Trial Grading with some examples shown.
appreciate that insight! I am just about to do the reds at BPW first time!
@@jonm7272 completely agree riding at Swinley and Haldon frequently and visiting BPW occasionally, a red is certainly not equal!
@@jpg6482 The grading and trail information given at BPW are superb, and the qualifiers at the start of each run are spot on. Also, note they grade not just by colour but also by type, so 'flow' 'technical', mix of the two and have a scale within each colour, from easiest to hardest. If you like jumping they've just rebuilt A470 ( I haven't had a chance to try it yet) to really follow a clear progression with jumps getting bigger and faster as you go down the trial. If you like fast technical stuff then I would suggest Vicious Valley > Bonneyville > Insufficient Funds but beware that this combination is probably near the top end of the Red Grade (and also beware the slightly off line gap jumps at the bottom of Insufficient Funds, I hate these) so take care until you've learnt the trails. The qualifier for Bonneyville is a big horrible drop-in to flat, if you can handle this then you'll be fine on any of the other Red trial drops.
Loved the video and watching the Lads skills. Looks a great track but I’ll be sticking to the reds for know.
I think I’ll work on my video editing skills to make my weak MTB skills look more impressive. Slow motion and music can make virtually anything look sick!
😯Blake just filmed me I can not believe it
"Nice line choice Rich!"
- Not surprising, since Rich just did a video on line choice using that exact section of the trail :)
What annoyed me as I re entered the sport was, that every area seems to have a different system. IMBA, STS, others just taking the classification from the skiing sport and so forth.
In most parts of the world red means something between blue and single black (hiking/skiing). A red pro line, double orange diamonds or triple black, as far as I know is not an official thing. I personally believe in the system of the international mountain bicycling association. Maybe you can do a video for freshies how a trail actually gets it´s difficulty rating and why some crews give trails a difficulty thats exceeding the official tables.
The other difficulty is how relative ratings are. If other things in the area aren't very intense, you'll see blue or even black lines that could be considered green or green/blue. Makes it a bit harder when you're in a new area and unsure of the perspective.
I love you guys, but this video didn't say much about how to actually make that step up to black. I'd love to see more vids of you working with less skilled riders to help them progress to gnarlier terrain.
So impressive how you GMBN lot ride on the slickest, rockies, rootiest wet slopes like it‘s nothing. Most of that would be a „mehhh, maybe sometimes when it‘s dry“ for me.
This is Fire!
I progressed from green with blue features straight to black without even knowing until i crashed
Good times boys
Nino would be riding that on his rc spark
Having such a mountain bike is a dream here in Syria 🥺
Im sorry man 😕 thats sad
@@Ahayeahishere Thank you for your kindness my friend
I find the little optional black lines vary a lot. Some I can ride easily and others just scare the poo out of me.
Best tips & trick! Like it. ❤️
I remember when I first started mountain biking I didn’t know what the colors meant, and accidentally went on a black and double black trail with my dad lol. We didn’t crash but we were sore the next few days 😂
can you a video on ow to progress from blue to red
Fun watching the two of you ride but the segment was a bit vague
I didn’t even know red trails were a thing until i saw this video (i’m from america)
Sir could you pls tell which is better in Between rockrider st 520 and Trek marlin 4
Droppin in
here in nz we dont got red trails we got single black and straight to double black
Need a nukeproof giga
Going to dyfi next month! going to stick to the reds for now... might have a sneaky look at a black trail tho
Nice!
2:15 got your words mixed up a bit there rich 🤣
Luv u guys...
Wow
How to go from harder to easier trails?
Hold on, what happened to Richard's hair?
In north America it’s green, blue, black, red and yellow
So black and red are inverted
Yep! It’s more orange than yellow I think. Orange=white line in Sedona. Basically you can die.
Those green rocks, in my mind if I went over them i'd instantly end slipping and coming off the bike, but he just went straight over it?
Nice
Blue > green > red > black
I'm in blue
Has ritchy been drunk sleep scalped??????
I'm looking at the the IMBA color ratings...I see no red.
i'm 3 rides in (new to this) and still struggling with reds!
You'll get it eventually! To be off of blues and thinking about reds after 3 rides is great, just make sure you don't over reach to early 🤘
@@gmbn yea im and old geezer now, so defo taking it easy!!
Are my local trails some of the only that aren't marked? The bike park has some double blacks marked but the greens and reds aren't marked
How to progress........hold on tight and just send it!
Ok well not really but it sounds good.
Red to Black? Am I missing something? Red is a pro-line on our trails, you'd progress from double black to red, I wouldn't even consider touch a double-black at this point let alone a red.
Red in European trails is between blue and black in North American trails
Is everything really rollable on a red? Would I risk it - OTB if it isn't.
Anyone know what saddle that is they're using?
Hi
The real question is what is going on with Rich`s hair ? Did he try to shave only the top or what ?
A lost bet ? Or are we just used to seeing these guys in helmets, and that is simply what his hair looks like ? :D
(just making sure: This is not meant to be a mean comment)
Jokes on you Blake, I'm ugly as hell
After about 3 years the last Keurig stopped working ruclips.net/user/postUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf initially was able to unblock, however eventually we couldn't fix. That one was a replacement unit sent by the manufacturer after we had problems with our very first Keurig. This works fine (lol, at least for now) however I didn't realize the water reservoir was so much smaller than our prior unit. With 2 people having one or two cups of coffee each morning, it seems like I'm refilling it daily. Otherwise just happy to have the convenience of pod coffee vs. making a morning pot.
what was that stem???
WWhich bike is better ride mega or giga?
These Black Trails probably look like fun challenges for a lot of you young people and I am happy for you. For me, at 69yrs, I am very happy with Red where I can choose to stay on the ground. Last weekend, my buddy decided to take us on a Black Trail (or maybe it was a gnarly extra steep red) - no turning back once we got into it and thank goodness it was dry or otherwise I would have been up to my ears in poison oak as I was thrown off the Trail !!!
I don't see Blake or Rich in any spills. Does this mean that top riders can do these Triple Diamond Black Trails can literally fly? :)
Red runs, you have an issue. Black runs, still a bit off mate. Brown runs, all is well and you found pay dirt.
"In for a bit of a treat, and end in a bit of a pickle" - What I told my wife on our first date.
Black trails are all fun and games till it gets too rough and steep for semi slicks to keep up 😂
🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
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I'm a robot
I thought a red Triangle was harder than a double black. If anyone knows tell me.
In USA it is it goes green blue black double black then red where as in the UK it goes green blue red black double black
Rich it's time for the hair to go.
For women: Men can multitask, do you see😂😉
Thats what i call equality 🤣
What is this broken English?
I didn’t know there were red trails….
Im not moving from red to black.. its my body turn black and blue.. stay on green guys.. lol..
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i'm earlyyy letsgooo
I didn't realise the sticky bandits from home alone are into mountain biking 👀
Sorry 🤣
Easy just follow the ‘if in doubt flat out’ mentality
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There were absolutely no tips for progressing from red to black in this video tbh.
Of course not; it's an ad for the sponsor's. I watch because I like the visual but know the content is fluff. Gotten much worse since the arrival of Rich.
It's like the Top Gear of bikes but not as good to be honest. I continue to watch because I like the presenters and I'm not a hater. The clickbait is real tho
Hello csn i ask for an a rodebike beacause i cant afford 🥺🥺 im from Philippines ♥️
This video makes no sense in the US. Going from red to black is a major step down in difficulty.
Tips???
Those steep switchbacks. No thanks.
Old Blaky Boy ahahaha
Answer; buy a really expensive MTB, with high end spec, thats more capable & watch your finances go from black to red! 😎
As usual learned very little from their videos, filming is glossy, details glossed over. It is what it is I suppose
African American Trails*
wtf is a red trail?
Disagree with going down a black when you're not ready. I took my mate down some proper techy blacks, double blacks on a HT xc bike and he loved it! Proper hooked he bought a 150mm full sus and started coming every weekend, around a year to a year and a half from starting out he bought a specialised kenevo! It's literally changed his life 🤣😂🤣😂