Poor James. He was too charming, too engaging, too fascinating. The audience wanted more of him and he ended up becoming the most interesting part of the show with the most emotional depth. I feel sad that it was so hard on him, but I hope knows how much his work ended up meaning to a lot of us.
Him and Sarah had some amazing chemistry. I was always team Spike. David isnt a bad actor, and I don't think anyone else could have been Angel, but I was good when he got his own show. Spike was a better fit for Buffy.
nobody should be forced to do things they don't want for their jobs. not on that level. he didn't sell them his soul, they didn't own him. I so hope contracts are better these days. Things like intimacy coordinators really help.
Where is and hear some good news here at the most number one requested actor on cameo, that's right when somebody want an actor they request him do a cameo and a reporter told him this is going to live press conference he said I had no idea.
I remember him saying one of his biggest regrets was the attempted rape scene with SMG. They didn't talk about it beforehand and it traumatized them both.
THAT was when Spike realized that without the soul and the conscience that entails, he COULD not trust himself to NOT go too far at all.HAD to get his back.
I read somewhere that SMG decided to leave the show and that’s why there were only seven seasons. If that’s true, I wonder if part of her reason was what the show did to Buffy in Season 6.
@warmcozy Nah, it's pretty well established at this point that Joss Whedon was a toxic asshole who treated the cast like slaves and abused some of them. I know James has also talked about it. At the time it ended, I remember him saying that SMG had the right to not want to do Buffy anymore because she did it for 7 years.
Yes. He said in another interview that he was traumatized by this scene with Buffy and has now put in his contracts to never be asked to do this kind of scene eve again.
Loved how he was basically the “billy idol” of the vampire world. Classic character, I love how they kept him in and didn’t kill his character off early on, cause they easily could have.
They wanted to kill him off in season 2 him and Dru were only supposed to be around for half of season 2. Spike went over so well with fans though that they kept him longer. Joss was pissed off about this and improperly vented to James about this.
I just saw part of his interview on the Inside of You podcast where he said his character was basically supposed to be a one time appearance, but the fans liked him so much, he kept being brought back. He said Joss actually did not like Spike and pretty much wanted him gone. It led to Joss treating him badly personally. Have to wonder if that's why Joss wrote him SA'ing Buffy, to try to turn fans against him.
@@grannyweatherwax8005 yeah I’ve heard that before too. Joss apparently also pushed James up against a wall once. I think that too, but then that was when Spike had no soul. So I think that may of been to remind people he was still evil at the time. Then he got a soul. But it’s ironic because I always saw his character as an old soul; very poetic and beautiful.
Yeah, it's so rare but he really did a good job. Only had a handfull of bleed-throughs in his entire run on Buffy. Very consistant really. Always throws me hearing him in his natural voice.
@@T_Cup I'm sorry your joke was lost on people more impressed with your vocabulary than your reference game. But I got it! It was not lost on all of us!
In the scene he's referring to, you can tell he was genuinely horrified when the camera panned into his face after the attempt, and Joss of course loved it for the camera.
Far too many talented filmmakers, writers, etc., have turned out to be bullies or predators. It’s…discouraging. I don’t know if I could watch The Pianist again, and not just because of the disturbing content.
@@windowsVDThe showrunner is ultimately in charge. They also write up an outline for a season. There's actually a team of writers involved in each episode. One or two might take the outline and do the original draft, but then it gets tweaked by the team, including the showrunner.
@@grannyweatherwax8005 Yes, but the claim was that Joss was on set delighting in how the scene was playing out. Showrunners aren’t on set for every episode, especially if they aren’t directing it. Plus it’s known that Martin Noxon was essentially the main showrunner for Season 6 since that was the period when Joss was off mainly writing and filming Firefly. Even her Twitter bio read “ruined Buffy Season 6” for many years due to some of the uhh…”contentious” choices made during that season, to which a lot of fans held her responsible for. At least, this was before she recently deleted her account. Speaking of which, Noxon was actually the one who wrote THAT scene in Seeing Red according to James Marsters himself. Not only that, but she wrote it based on an altercation where SHE was the aggressor and was in essentially the one in Spike’s shoes. During an old interview, Marsters mentioned that Noxon wrote the scene based on an incident with her ex who was breaking with her, where she was apparently convinced that if she just slept with him one time that he’d change his mind. So one night, she ended up trying to force herself onto him until he pushed her off, causing her to snap out of it and feel ashamed after realizing what she had done, just like Spike. The point is, there’s a clear online bandwagon going on of people trying to make Joss Whedon look like this demented monster, to the point where people are spreading likely false rumors. In reality, his relationship with his actors was more complicated than that. Yes, he could be an absolute prick to work with, but he also has great working relationships with many of his other actors. I mean, Alyson Hannigan and Alexis Denisof were literally named godparents to Whedon’s children. Nathan Fillion and Amy Acker are good friends with Whedon and continued to make appearances on his projects after Angel and Firefly ended. All of the Firefly cast seemed to genuinely love working on that show, and Anthony Stewart Head also said he always liked working with Whedon and was genuinely shocked by the allegations against him, since he never once personally witnessed any negative behavior from him while he was on set. So Whedon clearly did get along great with some of his actors rather than being a d!ck to everyone 24/7 like people make him out to be, and likely had a tendency to play favorites among his cast and crew. Whedon deserves backlash for the way in which he treated some of his cast, but it’s getting blown out of proportion by this point. Meanwhile, one of the showrunners on Buffy was literally an attempted r@p!st yet there’s zero public outrage against her over that whatsoever. It seems like a double standard.
Spike’s attempted r4p3 on Buffy is still one of the most uncomfortable scenes on a TV show I’ve ever watched. Rewatched it recently and it’s still tough to see.
It saddens me to know that some of the scripts were so traumatizing. We got a great show with wonderful performances and interesting story development, but we've learned over the years some of the costs involved. Just makes me that much more grateful to the cast for all they gave 🤗
No, he didn't. He did the best he could with the cards that were given to him. To be a director/producer/writer having to deal with all kinds of people with different professions, expectations, cultures and experiences is a huge challenge.
That's why Christina Carpenter quit in season 2 of angel, everybody dismissed it until he went in the film Justice League and the black actor Ray Fisher started making the rounds on the talk show circuit about his behavior
@@MirellaDerks Nah, he was abusive. People outside of Buffy/Angel that worked with him even said that. Hes not a good person nor was he “dealing the cards he was dealt with”
@MirellaDerks No one said the job isn't difficult, but not everyone in his position pushes their employees up against a wall and threatens them - from James's own lips: ruclips.net/video/hynZ2j9M9IE/видео.html
Yes I can understand his uncomfortable feelings due to the harsh things that would sometimes be required. The one episode that he did not want to do because it was so brutal was the almost rape of the character of Buffy. I have heard it said that he has in whatever he does in his contract that he will not do those violent kind of scenes to a woman. That to me speaks to his personal integrity and honor as a man. He is a good actor or should I say great actor. I hope he gets a role on an ongoing drama. I would love a reboot of Buffy with all the original cast members in different roles. Imagine if Sarah Michelle Gellar was playing the role of Joyce to the new woman who was playing The Buffy character. And we could have Christine Sutherland playing Joyce's mother and Buffy's grandmother. Just a thought I have. I thank you for your time and I wish you all the best. With respect always, Brant Heavner
Upon further what I would have liked in that episode was for a Spike to be takin over by the spirit of someone who wants vengeance on both Spike and Buffy. So it would be a situation where Spike was not in control of his body. Also to differentiate between Spike and the evil spirit taking over his body, he would not have an English accent because the spirit wanting vengeance on both of them was American. Thus it would be better for the character of not to have gone down that ugly road 🛣️ . Plus the experience of nearly harming Buffy would be a motivating factor in the desire to have his soul returned to him. I remember watching on my TV when the show migrated to the UPN Network in America which no longer exists. With respect to everyone on the channel.
The degree of unpredictability and risk taking that was employed in the story was well worth it. I hope he knows that. Season 6 is one of the greatest seasons of tv to ever happen
Spike was a complex character, he was dark most of the time, but there was also light in him too and a caring side too, if you look at how he was with Dawn, he had a touch of silly humour which was normally followed by “if you tell anyone I’ll k*ll you” which made it even more funny. I’m sorry that James was forced into situations that he didn’t want to be in, but it shows what a great man the actor is.
I loved Spike so much. And the irony of a vampire being the hero in the last episode of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" is so delightful and made for a perfect redemption arc. Wish we had gotten a Spike Angel feature film, like Serenity forFirefly
It was an incredibly uncomfortable scene to watch so my heart goes out to him, I can't imagine how hard it must have been to film with god knows how many takes it took. I feel like they could still have demonstrated spikes catalyst needed for him to decide to get a soul without resorting to SA, which I don't personally think fitted where his character arc was in S6 anyway.
Yup, agree Spike was the kind of character who would have went and get a soul WITHOUT hurting Buffy even He would get it just because it was the missing thing that would make her let herself love him with no shame tbh
@@enasbassiony7676 I completely agree, at that point his realisation that she could never love him without a soul would have been enough for him to decide he needed to get one, really no need to resort to SA. I also think spike had respect for women in his own weird twisted vampirey 'still-going-to-kill-you-though' way, even at his worst I can't imagine SA would be in his repertoire so it feels extra out of character. But then again I guess no one really knows what people are capable of, demons especially.
As difficult as it was i hope you know you did an incredible amazing wonderful job of bringing spike to life and watching his character develop helped so many people realize that they werent incapable of redemption and that they deserve love. Myself included. So thank you from me and probably a bunch of others too
I am a huge fan of BTVS especially James Marsters character. 🥰 I watched it faithfully. Watched with my children and NOW with my grandchildren. I'm positive I'll be around to finish the series with my great grandchildren when the time comes and I'll still have heart eyes for Spike.😍❤
My brother and I got to meet James Marsters at Wizard World and had a full conversation with him about video games and VR. Him and his agent were so nice and fun to talk with. I’ve been rewatching Buffy and I hate the emotional damage he had to take playing that role, but I love him as Spike and his genuineness as a person, so I’m conflicted with the dynamic of it. Joss Whedon is such a misogynistic asshole, but I also can’t help but love his creations as a whole.
Who knew from the 1st season of Buffy, this legend would be in the last episode of Angel fighting the Apocalypse. Blows my mind the more I think about it.
The scenes he is referring to were important and they helped a lot of people. I'm sorry if they negatively impacted him, but I'm grateful he played the role and I'm grateful to the writers for writing it. Grateful to Joss, Marti, David, and more. This helped women. In more ways than I can possibly say. Everyone should stop trying to erase or change it. It shined a light on a difficult topic. It helped women to be believed. It helped boyfriends and exes to realize that a woman isn't someone's property and consent isn't permanent, but rather something that always has to be requested, not taken.
I met him once when I was younger, he was so sweet. I had a photo op with him, and he let me stake him!! It's sosad to hear he struggled with some scenes in buffy, he's always been my favourite character!! 🥺🥺
I haven’t watched Buffy in close to 20 yrs but I feel like a binge is on my future soon . Was really a great show, thank you for what you gave to us all.
Spike! My boo! I love you James I named my cat Spike because he makes this face showing his fangs like the character did on a random thank you for giving life to spike the greatest hero/villain ever ✌️🙏🫶🏿
You need to be proud of Spike's legacy. I think you are the fan's favorite character. I know that I loved Spike! In the end , Spike was very respected. He was fully redeemed. Be proud man! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I love how he played Spike. Such a great actor! I watched Buffy after the series already ended, so I kind of knew the story already.. At first I was too attached to the Angel-Buffy love story and thought Spike to be a poor substitute and a forced one. The way he played the character makes you fall in love with Spike too. I never thought they would have such a complex romance into the show. And such steamy hot scenes! Just mindblowing! Goodbye Angel! You can stay in LA for as long as you’d like.
Poor James, he was amazing at Spike & the huge range he played. From flash backs to his hunan life, the blody massacres, slayer killer, chip in his head, becoming good, protecting the team while they hated him, becoming & being part of the scooby gang, the vampire in love with buffy, the rape, getting his soul back, the insanity, the whole Spike & Angel & Angel, Spike & Buffy, being the saviour. He did it all.
Джеймс - замечательный. Я и сейчас люблю его как человека, и его персонажа, конечно. Несмотря на то, что изначально это был бэдгай, все же он прошел огромный путь и это всегда было ценно для меня. Человек и демон, который сделал сам себя. Меня иногда это поддерживало.
He turned a bad guy into a loved character! Even though the writers, show runners,and creator of it all had the intention of using him as the weekly filler villain! (Love Spike but still relate too Angel more) Both did a incredible job because even Angel wasn’t suppose to return!😂
Made a brilliant villain and then became the one character that broke my heart and made me laugh the most, did a amazing job, when he returned in angel i leaped of the sofa crying lol, its so sad hearing that he struggled with what he was being asked to do, i get it, you would have to go to a dark place to be believable on screen and act it out
☂️☂️☂️Looking forward to each week this show was on saved my life in high school. I had a very difficult home and school environment but this one hour a week I could escape. Things got much better when I was 18 and could leave. However, BTVS I will always credit with saving my life. ❤❤❤ She truly was the “Class Protector.” ☂️☂️🧛♂️❤❤❤❤
THIS is how I view entertainment today - my life is very good and blessed but not without some serious hardships and massiveanxiety, I use entertainment as therapy & escape and I'm sad that so much of it is being taken over to push messages rather than give us real shows to getlost in
Spike took the show to the next level. JM is just such a great actor he can get me to fall more in love than with ANY other TV character despite my logic brain refusing to stop complaining that vampires CANNOT be dead and undead at the same time! 😂
Entirely understandable. Spike did some things that wouls make any actor uncomfortable, and having had "difficult" directors before, i can only imagine what is was like knowing he had those scenes coming up AND next to no support (if any at all) from the one person on set who should've given it... Absolute trooper, as were they all.
If you know you know. Awful scene at end of s6 and it could have been vastly improved by spike trying to bite or turn her instead - the dialogue could have stayed pretty much the same and he still would have wrestled with the oh god why did I do that. Vampirism has often in the show been conflated with death/ sex/ violence so I think it would have been better played as an allegory to SA rather than a straight up graphic scene.
Dang this guy had me believing he was British! I loooved his character Spike. And he's not the only one on Buffy who has complained about behind the scenes. Sarah Michelle and Charisma have spoken out. Joss Whedon was hell on everybody.
It was hard core in the final seasons, the scenes between him and buffy were rugged, I hated him and buffy together but now I kind of understand that he was her trauma rebound after angel being another vampire and her life so hard😢
Wow! Wow n Wow! He always held my attention but he is such a great actor u never realized what he went thru 2 bring that character 2 the screen! Also really blown away, I truly thought he was English!!!! What a great actor!
Yep. ‘Seeing Red’. I don’t know how you can truly embody a character and play it so well without having to take that energy into yourself and into your own field. I can see how that was traumatizing, and that scene in particular. Adding the constant flux of Spike being a vampire version of Wiley Coyote half the time and obsessive attachment disorder with incessant rejection the rest, he had to run all ends of the spectrum. But, that character and James changed so many peoples lives. So, the pain was worth something meaningful.
I'm soooooo glad you stayed ( I know how the creator really didn't want this character) and told you frequently. You ARE one of the most Beloved Crew 😊. Guess the Guantlet PROVES that. Thankyou for ALL us James ❤. Thanks Joss for keeping him. Hope he gets war pay 🙏 😅
Season six. A painful season to watch as well, but the writers were amazing! The relationship between them was so mutually intensely toxic! It really captured domestic abuse with passion, violence internal struggle and self loathing for both of them.
It must have been a very hard challenge as an actor and as a human. As the audience we don’t often see the impact that playing a character that does morally terrible things does to the psyche of the person playing them. I honestly think having a therapist there for post-filming debriefs could help actors separate themselves from the actions of their characters
That scene (non con season 6) shocked me to the core as a young girl who watched Buffy grow up alongside me starting when I was a middle schooler. I can see how it would traumatize both Sarah M G and James M
@@lauraelliot5716 Some of the best writing in entertainment in my humble opinion (very good writing on Angel series too) - but his character name was William the🩸y and his reputation was as one of the worst vamps in his history so I wouldn't think it's a big leap for a writer/story to get close to that scene. But I so agree that they all did such a fabulous job portraying their characters! I'm still watching the show every day on Fusechannel
he's not lying. the acting chops you have to have when you get the script and go "oh great my character loses their whole memory" or "spike and buffy have a love spell" or "angels a fucking puppet"
No mention of Clara. It's a longshot but she's trapped, waiting in her last second of life, maybe she finally cheated death. She was is the impossible girl who travelled through the Doctor's time stream. I can see similarities between her and Ruby. Unsure what her motive would be though.
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Link to the full interview:
ruclips.net/video/koDr_pt2f2E/видео.html
This link doesnt work. I tried. I even wrote it exactly and punched it into browser. Doesnt load
@@derykamey3626 I just clicked it and it worked fine. If you're on mobile, that's probably why.
Poor James. He was too charming, too engaging, too fascinating. The audience wanted more of him and he ended up becoming the most interesting part of the show with the most emotional depth. I feel sad that it was so hard on him, but I hope knows how much his work ended up meaning to a lot of us.
Him and Sarah had some amazing chemistry. I was always team Spike. David isnt a bad actor, and I don't think anyone else could have been Angel, but I was good when he got his own show. Spike was a better fit for Buffy.
I think its sad that he could of been the star but whedon refused him.
he was also 14 yrs older than sarah michelle gellar which is why i think he didn't wanna do the rape scene too probably
@@lolawhiteeagle8933He didn’t want to be the star. He didn’t even want Spike to be in love with Buffy.
nobody should be forced to do things they don't want for their jobs. not on that level. he didn't sell them his soul, they didn't own him. I so hope contracts are better these days. Things like intimacy coordinators really help.
It’s honestly strange to hear him without a thick British accent
@Andreia Baskette Same
Where is and hear some good news here at the most number one requested actor on cameo, that's right when somebody want an actor they request him do a cameo and a reporter told him this is going to live press conference he said I had no idea.
Same here. He even had a British accent in Torchwood as well.
He did voice over for auditable for a huge book series called the dresden files and absolutely killed it
Yeah… it’s not a thick British accent. That kind of accent is pretty normal sounding
I remember him saying one of his biggest regrets was the attempted rape scene with SMG. They didn't talk about it beforehand and it traumatized them both.
THAT was when Spike realized that without the soul and the conscience that entails, he COULD not trust himself to NOT go too far at all.HAD to get his back.
I didn’t know they didn’t talk about it beforehand.
I heard him saying he has an agreement with producers that he will never do that kind of scenes again...
I read somewhere that SMG decided to leave the show and that’s why there were only seven seasons. If that’s true, I wonder if part of her reason was what the show did to Buffy in Season 6.
@warmcozy Nah, it's pretty well established at this point that Joss Whedon was a toxic asshole who treated the cast like slaves and abused some of them. I know James has also talked about it. At the time it ended, I remember him saying that SMG had the right to not want to do Buffy anymore because she did it for 7 years.
James, I really hope you understand how much you meant to us hard core Buffy fans.You are our favorite character.
Thank you for digging so deep, Spike was amazing and I think every 90's kid/girl would agree!
Spike was always my favorite character. Even on Angel. Both shows wouldnt have been what they were without James.
As soon as his character appeared, I was hooked
We all know what scene he's referring to, and those tough scenes are the scenes that make history
Yes. He said in another interview that he was traumatized by this scene with Buffy and has now put in his contracts to never be asked to do this kind of scene eve again.
Loved how he was basically the “billy idol” of the vampire world. Classic character, I love how they kept him in and didn’t kill his character off early on, cause they easily could have.
I’m glad I’m not the only one that saw this, haha. Definite Billy Idol vibes.
They wanted to kill him off in season 2 him and Dru were only supposed to be around for half of season 2. Spike went over so well with fans though that they kept him longer. Joss was pissed off about this and improperly vented to James about this.
I loved the episode where Buffy says actually Billy idol copied spike. That's was funny.
I just saw part of his interview on the Inside of You podcast where he said his character was basically supposed to be a one time appearance, but the fans liked him so much, he kept being brought back. He said Joss actually did not like Spike and pretty much wanted him gone. It led to Joss treating him badly personally. Have to wonder if that's why Joss wrote him SA'ing Buffy, to try to turn fans against him.
@@grannyweatherwax8005 yeah I’ve heard that before too. Joss apparently also pushed James up against a wall once.
I think that too, but then that was when Spike had no soul. So I think that may of been to remind people he was still evil at the time. Then he got a soul. But it’s ironic because I always saw his character as an old soul; very poetic and beautiful.
As a Londoner I have to say, I still can't get over the fact he isn't English
Yeah, it's so rare but he really did a good job. Only had a handfull of bleed-throughs in his entire run on Buffy. Very consistant really. Always throws me hearing him in his natural voice.
Despite the struggles he faced, his performance on BTVS can only be described as effulgent
Good SAT word
@@kellycagle8515 Also a word connected to his character on the series, just fyi
It's rare for me to have to look up a word. Thank you for your succinct appraisal.
@@Wiseblood2012 I'm looking it up right now & I usually don't have to either lol
@@T_Cup I'm sorry your joke was lost on people more impressed with your vocabulary than your reference game. But I got it! It was not lost on all of us!
Spike was the best character ever written or acted, ever. ♥️♥️♥️
You gave a great performance James. Spike was never meant to be overwhelmed by goodness. He was just meant to improve a little.
I love you spike always and forever you will NEVER BE REPLACED EVER!!!!
In the scene he's referring to, you can tell he was genuinely horrified when the camera panned into his face after the attempt, and Joss of course loved it for the camera.
Far too many talented filmmakers, writers, etc., have turned out to be bullies or predators. It’s…discouraging. I don’t know if I could watch The Pianist again, and not just because of the disturbing content.
Joss didn’t direct nor did he write that episode. So I’m wondering where you got that from?
@@windowsVDThe showrunner is ultimately in charge. They also write up an outline for a season. There's actually a team of writers involved in each episode. One or two might take the outline and do the original draft, but then it gets tweaked by the team, including the showrunner.
@@grannyweatherwax8005 Yes, but the claim was that Joss was on set delighting in how the scene was playing out. Showrunners aren’t on set for every episode, especially if they aren’t directing it. Plus it’s known that Martin Noxon was essentially the main showrunner for Season 6 since that was the period when Joss was off mainly writing and filming Firefly. Even her Twitter bio read “ruined Buffy Season 6” for many years due to some of the uhh…”contentious” choices made during that season, to which a lot of fans held her responsible for. At least, this was before she recently deleted her account. Speaking of which, Noxon was actually the one who wrote THAT scene in Seeing Red according to James Marsters himself. Not only that, but she wrote it based on an altercation where SHE was the aggressor and was in essentially the one in Spike’s shoes. During an old interview, Marsters mentioned that Noxon wrote the scene based on an incident with her ex who was breaking with her, where she was apparently convinced that if she just slept with him one time that he’d change his mind. So one night, she ended up trying to force herself onto him until he pushed her off, causing her to snap out of it and feel ashamed after realizing what she had done, just like Spike.
The point is, there’s a clear online bandwagon going on of people trying to make Joss Whedon look like this demented monster, to the point where people are spreading likely false rumors. In reality, his relationship with his actors was more complicated than that. Yes, he could be an absolute prick to work with, but he also has great working relationships with many of his other actors. I mean, Alyson Hannigan and Alexis Denisof were literally named godparents to Whedon’s children. Nathan Fillion and Amy Acker are good friends with Whedon and continued to make appearances on his projects after Angel and Firefly ended. All of the Firefly cast seemed to genuinely love working on that show, and Anthony Stewart Head also said he always liked working with Whedon and was genuinely shocked by the allegations against him, since he never once personally witnessed any negative behavior from him while he was on set. So Whedon clearly did get along great with some of his actors rather than being a d!ck to everyone 24/7 like people make him out to be, and likely had a tendency to play favorites among his cast and crew. Whedon deserves backlash for the way in which he treated some of his cast, but it’s getting blown out of proportion by this point. Meanwhile, one of the showrunners on Buffy was literally an attempted r@p!st yet there’s zero public outrage against her over that whatsoever. It seems like a double standard.
Wow. Ok. This is a lot to take in. Thank you for the info!
James still looks great for his age.
When he tells Buffy how he truly feels about her is the greatest speech ever.
I also loved all the Angel hate like tall dark & forehead lmao.
I watched the series only because of Spike. I still love him
Who doesn’t. Buffy thought she was too good for him. Poor fellow
Spike’s attempted r4p3 on Buffy is still one of the most uncomfortable scenes on a TV show I’ve ever watched. Rewatched it recently and it’s still tough to see.
Yeah thats one of the things he regrets.
@@tammyhayes6920 I'd love to know if the writers regret it now?🤔
It should be uncomfortable, though. It’s not romantic, it’s rape.
I sware I cry for them both every time I watch it. Spike will always be the light of the show 😇
@@mcdjinn6975 🙄 duh
It saddens me to know that some of the scripts were so traumatizing. We got a great show with wonderful performances and interesting story development, but we've learned over the years some of the costs involved. Just makes me that much more grateful to the cast for all they gave 🤗
JFC, I love this man. Spike will forever be my favorite TV character. He was so brilliant
When Spike saved it all in the end I was truly devastated by the loss
Joss Whedon tormented everyone in that cast.
No, he didn't. He did the best he could with the cards that were given to him. To be a director/producer/writer having to deal with all kinds of people with different professions, expectations, cultures and experiences is a huge challenge.
That's why Christina Carpenter quit in season 2 of angel, everybody dismissed it until he went in the film Justice League and the black actor Ray Fisher started making the rounds on the talk show circuit about his behavior
@@MirellaDerks Nah, he was abusive. People outside of Buffy/Angel that worked with him even said that. Hes not a good person nor was he “dealing the cards he was dealt with”
@@nunyabeewax1229 Like who?
@MirellaDerks No one said the job isn't difficult, but not everyone in his position pushes their employees up against a wall and threatens them - from James's own lips: ruclips.net/video/hynZ2j9M9IE/видео.html
Yes I can understand his uncomfortable feelings due to the harsh things that would sometimes be required. The one episode that he did not want to do because it was so brutal was the almost rape of the character of Buffy. I have heard it said that he has in whatever he does in his contract that he will not do those violent kind of scenes to a woman. That to me speaks to his personal integrity and honor as a man. He is a good actor or should I say great actor. I hope he gets a role on an ongoing drama. I would love a reboot of Buffy with all the original cast members in different roles. Imagine if Sarah Michelle Gellar was playing the role of Joyce to the new woman who was playing The Buffy character. And we could have Christine Sutherland playing Joyce's mother and Buffy's grandmother. Just a thought I have. I thank you for your time and I wish you all the best. With respect always, Brant Heavner
With spike as new watcher
Upon further what I would have liked in that episode was for a Spike to be takin over by the spirit of someone who wants vengeance on both Spike and Buffy. So it would be a situation where Spike was not in control of his body. Also to differentiate between Spike and the evil spirit taking over his body, he would not have an English accent because the spirit wanting vengeance on both of them was American. Thus it would be better for the character of not to have gone down that ugly road 🛣️ . Plus the experience of nearly harming Buffy would be a motivating factor in the desire to have his soul returned to him. I remember watching on my TV when the show migrated to the UPN Network in America which no longer exists. With respect to everyone on the channel.
Interesting ideas Brant, thank you!
@@cklambo Randy?
Writers aren't like how they were in those times so the show would probably be garbage tbh
The degree of unpredictability and risk taking that was employed in the story was well worth it. I hope he knows that. Season 6 is one of the greatest seasons of tv to ever happen
He must be referring to Seeing Red, that was a tough watch.
Spike was a complex character, he was dark most of the time, but there was also light in him too and a caring side too, if you look at how he was with Dawn, he had a touch of silly humour which was normally followed by “if you tell anyone I’ll k*ll you” which made it even more funny.
I’m sorry that James was forced into situations that he didn’t want to be in, but it shows what a great man the actor is.
I loved Spike so much. And the irony of a vampire being the hero in the last episode of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" is so delightful and made for a perfect redemption arc.
Wish we had gotten a Spike Angel feature film, like Serenity forFirefly
Angel season five was pretty much that feature film lol
@@ItsAme7143 That fight scene between Angel and Spike. With mental polls and flips. And high.... stakes. Lol. Epic
@@ItsAme7143 🙂
It was an incredibly uncomfortable scene to watch so my heart goes out to him, I can't imagine how hard it must have been to film with god knows how many takes it took.
I feel like they could still have demonstrated spikes catalyst needed for him to decide to get a soul without resorting to SA, which I don't personally think fitted where his character arc was in S6 anyway.
Agree
Yup, agree
Spike was the kind of character who would have went and get a soul WITHOUT hurting Buffy even
He would get it just because it was the missing thing that would make her let herself love him with no shame tbh
@@enasbassiony7676 I completely agree, at that point his realisation that she could never love him without a soul would have been enough for him to decide he needed to get one, really no need to resort to SA. I also think spike had respect for women in his own weird twisted vampirey 'still-going-to-kill-you-though' way, even at his worst I can't imagine SA would be in his repertoire so it feels extra out of character. But then again I guess no one really knows what people are capable of, demons especially.
What SA? Sorry I feel dumb
@LunaStarr 666 don't feel dumb! I just meant the attempted sexual assault by Spike on Buffy in the episode Seeing Red.
As difficult as it was i hope you know you did an incredible amazing wonderful job of bringing spike to life and watching his character develop helped so many people realize that they werent incapable of redemption and that they deserve love. Myself included. So thank you from me and probably a bunch of others too
I am a huge fan of BTVS especially James Marsters character. 🥰
I watched it faithfully. Watched with my children and NOW with my grandchildren. I'm positive I'll be around to finish the series with my great grandchildren when the time comes and I'll still have heart eyes for Spike.😍❤
My brother and I got to meet James Marsters at Wizard World and had a full conversation with him about video games and VR. Him and his agent were so nice and fun to talk with. I’ve been rewatching Buffy and I hate the emotional damage he had to take playing that role, but I love him as Spike and his genuineness as a person, so I’m conflicted with the dynamic of it. Joss Whedon is such a misogynistic asshole, but I also can’t help but love his creations as a whole.
We are so glad you pushed yourself because, the memories for us viewers last for us an entire lifetime!!!!!!!!!!
I understand the pressure but you did a excellent job portraying your character...you did an excellent job 👏 👍
Who knew from the 1st season of Buffy, this legend would be in the last episode of Angel fighting the Apocalypse. Blows my mind the more I think about it.
The scenes he is referring to were important and they helped a lot of people. I'm sorry if they negatively impacted him, but I'm grateful he played the role and I'm grateful to the writers for writing it. Grateful to Joss, Marti, David, and more. This helped women. In more ways than I can possibly say. Everyone should stop trying to erase or change it. It shined a light on a difficult topic. It helped women to be believed. It helped boyfriends and exes to realize that a woman isn't someone's property and consent isn't permanent, but rather something that always has to be requested, not taken.
I met him once when I was younger, he was so sweet. I had a photo op with him, and he let me stake him!! It's sosad to hear he struggled with some scenes in buffy, he's always been my favourite character!! 🥺🥺
I haven’t watched Buffy in close to 20 yrs but I feel like a binge is on my future soon . Was really a great show, thank you for what you gave to us all.
20 years!!!???? some fan you are...
Spike! My boo! I love you James I named my cat Spike because he makes this face showing his fangs like the character did on a random thank you for giving life to spike the greatest hero/villain ever ✌️🙏🫶🏿
I love his voice.
Still NAILED it every time, even in those scenes (we all know which), he was still amazing.
Literally.
Incredible actor. I wish we got a Buffy Angel reboot in the cobra kai format with the old characters and the new generation combine.
Well that’s the beauty of acting, you can’t complain about that, you’re going to be acting parts that will take you out your safe zone.
My poor spiky what happened to your face God bless you hope you are OK love you James thank you for being such an awesome actor in Buffy ❤you 😊
You need to be proud of Spike's legacy. I think you are the fan's favorite character. I know that I loved Spike! In the end , Spike was very respected. He was fully redeemed. Be proud man! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I love how he played Spike. Such a great actor! I watched Buffy after the series already ended, so I kind of knew the story already.. At first I was too attached to the Angel-Buffy love story and thought Spike to be a poor substitute and a forced one. The way he played the character makes you fall in love with Spike too. I never thought they would have such a complex romance into the show. And such steamy hot scenes! Just mindblowing! Goodbye Angel! You can stay in LA for as long as you’d like.
Poor James, he was amazing at Spike & the huge range he played. From flash backs to his hunan life, the blody massacres, slayer killer, chip in his head, becoming good, protecting the team while they hated him, becoming & being part of the scooby gang, the vampire in love with buffy, the rape, getting his soul back, the insanity, the whole Spike & Angel & Angel, Spike & Buffy, being the saviour. He did it all.
Man, you never know the toll this stuff can take on an actor. They really didn’t need to go as far as they did with his character.
Spike was badass
Loved that show
"I Like weapons. They make me feel all Manly."
His English accent was better than his American 😂
He’s from Texas
Джеймс - замечательный. Я и сейчас люблю его как человека, и его персонажа, конечно. Несмотря на то, что изначально это был бэдгай, все же он прошел огромный путь и это всегда было ценно для меня. Человек и демон, который сделал сам себя. Меня иногда это поддерживало.
He turned a bad guy into a loved character! Even though the writers, show runners,and creator of it all had the intention of using him as the weekly filler villain! (Love Spike but still
relate too Angel more) Both did a incredible job because even Angel wasn’t suppose to return!😂
James is one of the humblest humans out there ❤
Made a brilliant villain and then became the one character that broke my heart and made me laugh the most, did a amazing job, when he returned in angel i leaped of the sofa crying lol, its so sad hearing that he struggled with what he was being asked to do, i get it, you would have to go to a dark place to be believable on screen and act it out
OMG toujours aussi charismatique
Il pourrait refaire Buffy sans problème ❤
☂️☂️☂️Looking forward to each week this show was on saved my life in high school. I had a very difficult home and school environment but this one hour a week I could escape. Things got much better when I was 18 and could leave. However, BTVS I will always credit with saving my life. ❤❤❤ She truly was the “Class Protector.” ☂️☂️🧛♂️❤❤❤❤
THIS is how I view entertainment today - my life is very good and blessed but not without some serious hardships and massiveanxiety, I use entertainment as therapy & escape and I'm sad that so much of it is being taken over to push messages rather than give us real shows to getlost in
@@avarysse5782 I agree with you completely. There were no big opinions on tv and movies back then. I wish is was that way still.
I’m sorry he went through this experience. Directors, etc., have been known to create harmful and even abusive environments for actors.
Poor James 🥺🥺🥺 when I meet him this year comic con I'ma hug him
Most favorite characters on Buffy, Spike, Angel, Cordelia, Aimee, Rupert.
Buffy, faith and spike
Spike, Anya, Faith, Willow, CORDY!!!! ❤
I wonder what those brutal scenes were for him. Leaving us in the dark here hehe
Spike took the show to the next level. JM is just such a great actor he can get me to fall more in love than with ANY other TV character despite my logic brain refusing to stop complaining that vampires CANNOT be dead and undead at the same time! 😂
Entirely understandable. Spike did some things that wouls make any actor uncomfortable, and having had "difficult" directors before, i can only imagine what is was like knowing he had those scenes coming up AND next to no support (if any at all) from the one person on set who should've given it... Absolute trooper, as were they all.
I always wanted him to got a spin off , his own spin off
If you know you know.
Awful scene at end of s6 and it could have been vastly improved by spike trying to bite or turn her instead - the dialogue could have stayed pretty much the same and he still would have wrestled with the oh god why did I do that. Vampirism has often in the show been conflated with death/ sex/ violence so I think it would have been better played as an allegory to SA rather than a straight up graphic scene.
This is EXACTLY what I have always thought.
And as a Slayer, Buffy would honestly have felt MORE betrayed by him trying to turn her.
You were brilliant, like the undead love child of Sid Viscous & Billy Idol.
Dang this guy had me believing he was British! I loooved his character Spike. And he's not the only one on Buffy who has complained about behind the scenes.
Sarah Michelle and Charisma have spoken out. Joss Whedon was hell on everybody.
Idk his accent was pretty bad, at least at the beginning 😂 He was charming, and a good actor but the accent... 😬
Oh hey, it's an old pal of Xander's here.
It was hard core in the final seasons, the scenes between him and buffy were rugged, I hated him and buffy together but now I kind of understand that he was her trauma rebound after angel being another vampire and her life so hard😢
Wow! Wow n Wow! He always held my attention but he is such a great actor u never realized what he went thru 2 bring that character 2 the screen! Also really blown away, I truly thought he was English!!!! What a great actor!
Yep. ‘Seeing Red’. I don’t know how you can truly embody a character and play it so well without having to take that energy into yourself and into your own field. I can see how that was traumatizing, and that scene in particular. Adding the constant flux of Spike being a vampire version of Wiley Coyote half the time and obsessive attachment disorder with incessant rejection the rest, he had to run all ends of the spectrum. But, that character and James changed so many peoples lives. So, the pain was worth something meaningful.
Absolutely brilliantly played and best character of both Buffy and Angel.
I'm soooooo glad you stayed ( I know how the creator really didn't want this character) and told you frequently. You ARE one of the most Beloved Crew 😊. Guess the Guantlet PROVES that. Thankyou for ALL us James ❤. Thanks Joss for keeping him. Hope he gets war pay 🙏 😅
You still look great. And are a really good actor. 🦇
Woah I have been avoiding hearing James Marsters' real accent, I guess today's the day.
I love Buffy the vampire Slayer and I love you spike
Ok buffy good episode my friend
Season six. A painful season to watch as well, but the writers were amazing! The relationship between them was so mutually intensely toxic! It really captured domestic abuse with passion, violence internal struggle and self loathing for both of them.
It must have been a very hard challenge as an actor and as a human. As the audience we don’t often see the impact that playing a character that does morally terrible things does to the psyche of the person playing them. I honestly think having a therapist there for post-filming debriefs could help actors separate themselves from the actions of their characters
Show was amazing and just love character. And buffy was so great show
You could tell the buffy assault scenes were hard for him to get through.
we appreciate you doing that and giving your best. we are honored by it
Gotta love spike
Love your role as spike and loved the hard rolls you played there. I thought you were awesome
He's talking about that episode he thought he was Rupert's son, Randy Giles.
Best one is him!!
His role , he truly nailed it
I think I know what part he is talking about it was tough to watch him getting that dark at the end of season 6
all the seasons were great, but glory was my favorite season spike didn't have a soul, but was still being humanized
he's so Awesome 😎
That scene (non con season 6) shocked me to the core as a young girl who watched Buffy grow up alongside me starting when I was a middle schooler. I can see how it would traumatize both Sarah M G and James M
Thank them for making you a icon
Buffy was such a good show. It's a shame to hear how uncomfortable the behind the scenes were for so many different actors.
It is very well acted by all of them to play such different sorts of characters and the characters are well written as well as the show. ❤
@@lauraelliot5716 Some of the best writing in entertainment in my humble opinion (very good writing on Angel series too) - but his character name was William the🩸y and his reputation was as one of the worst vamps in his history so I wouldn't think it's a big leap for a writer/story to get close to that scene. But I so agree that they all did such a fabulous job portraying their characters! I'm still watching the show every day on Fusechannel
So nice to see you. I’m listening to the Buffy OST now
he's not lying. the acting chops you have to have when you get the script and go "oh great my character loses their whole memory" or "spike and buffy have a love spell" or "angels a fucking puppet"
No mention of Clara. It's a longshot but she's trapped, waiting in her last second of life, maybe she finally cheated death. She was is the impossible girl who travelled through the Doctor's time stream. I can see similarities between her and Ruby. Unsure what her motive would be though.
He was so uncomfortable that he decided to take a role on Angel
You talking about that Buffy scene