Thank you so much for sharing. Thousands of us are being denied our basic human rights to be heard and treated with respect. We cannot possibly hope to win our right to be heard by the NHS given that it is so huge and neither will protesting change anything. There must be something we can do collectively. Far too many of us are trying to take our own precious lives when all we are asking for is to be heard, validated and treated with compassion. Empathy seems to be on the decrease and bullying on the increase. Cut-backs are no excuse for mistreating others!
The trauma of engaging with services is very real. When they get things wrong they defame the victim and won't investigate complaint. Once they discredit a person they say what they like. Its plain and simple systematic abuse once the cover ups start. All organisations follow the same corrupt unwritten procedures and avoid the written ones ...
From their angle any potential serious liability / fault issues within complaints guarantee a complaint will be aggressively shelved. This paranoid liability angle supersedes any duty of care or duty of candour. Often they deliberately label people with unresolved complaint vexatious in order to discredit them. Once this happens they will only deal with solicitors (most of us don't have access to, or the inclination) which adds to the frustration and personal damage. Its wrong vulnerable people genuinely seeking help and support are routinely abused, victimised and ostracised this way. Services massively contribute to compounding ill health sometimes, seemingly unaware of their own gross incompetence. It probably is the minority, but it only takes one rogue operative to cause untold far reaching damage ... As complaints are deliberately mismanaged, perpetrators just carry on. I wish there was an easy answer.
I can to relate to this I too have been discriminated against by adult Community mental health services in the community & some awwfuly horrid mental health staff in some of these to say the least . Their is alot f people with mental health problems that are sadly being let down repeatedly from adult Community health services I was one of them . so I can relate to alot of these comments on here
its not external events that cuases trauma or results in the way we feel its the through forms we assign to that experience that does that its not what others say its how we internalize it that determines how we feel
I was diagnosed at having EUPD years ago when the mental health system was a lot lot better than it is now. I haven't been seen for years by the NHS for mental health for years and this year me and my husband was so desperate that we paid to have a consultation with a private psychiatrist and he diagnosed me with Bipolar which came as no surprise to me at all because that's what I thought I had anyway. The NHS don't seem to want to know about my Bipolar diagnosis at all and have offered me no medication or follow ups with the mental health team or anything. I've got the crisis team at the moment and even they are having major trouble getting the mental health team to do anything or even to get me an appointment to see an NHS Psychiatrist. We're not rolling in money so can't keep going private. The NHS are absolutely useless with mental health now.
They act like mental health conditions can be cured by shitty coping mechanisms like going to sleep early or not going on your phone. Like yes those things can HELP slightly but in no way do they actually do anything.
This is just how I feel, I have BPD and Depression and have no credibility in the service I use. Any complaint i make is put down to me "misinterpreting" the conversation or facts, and I am so frustrated and sick of it. I do not believe some people want to work with vulnerable people for the right reasons, and are very cruel. It's not all about cutbacks its about the people who are employed, and lack of accountability for their words and actions.
Health professionals are in a position of almost absolute power.... sadly some enjoy that power, so its often abused by those wanting to manipulate situations to preserve or enhance their power. I find it disturbing how common gross dishonesty and emotional abuse is employed in and formally supported by the service network
Oh god, yes! The stigma I have encountered has been from the 'professionals'. I have also lost trust in the system and we do need to make people aware of what is going on xx
I've been discriminated against by previous community mental health team so I can totally relate to where you are coming from . It's got to the point I can know longer trust mental health professionals community mental health teams for adults are under funded NHS complaints I agree are swept under the carpet I've had mental health discrimination from mental health community mental health teams . Community care provision you are a true inspiration ...
katie houghton, Thank you so so much, I've had almost the exact situations over 2 decades, my bipolar was left untreated etc etc (i could go on forever) the only positive aspect was that I got so annoyed/rageful that it distracted me from doing something to take my life, since then I'm medicated properly, psychology degree and look after myself really well . It takes a lot to do what you have done, your honesty will be helping so many-so remember that when you feel low . Ive been thinking of setting up something similar myself, may the fight continue, love to all who are struggling
It’s really sad that you literally have to threaten to hurt yourself/take your own life for them to even take into mind that you need to be diagnosed/need medication or therapy.
Katie you are an inspiration, I hope that you stay on your feet and never give up. Mental health is a hit and miss in my experience. 10% of the support is very helpful, 90% suck. Thanks for uploading this 👌
I have been passed from pillar to post in services From IAPT primary care who told me I was to complex a case so referred to IAPT secondary care again I'm to complex a case then referred to IAPT terchiary care who told me I wasn't dead / ILL enough to warrant help
the narc and psychopaths are running the show they couldnt give a dam about your mental health there gaslighting patient saying healthy people have disorders they dont have geting them on meds they dont need geting back handers Society isn’t going to take care of your mental health It’s your responsibility to take care of yourself
Thanks so much for posting this! :) I'm starting another complaint but waiting for another dismissal lol. I was just wondering how things are going for you a year on? x
It's a bloody nightmare, I've been taken to emergency services by the police and by family and they have simply turned me away. Speak up about it? My GP knows, my former therapist knows...and still although they are both reasonable people they tell me there is a shortage of beds and so I couldn't be seen as an inpatient. I'm now homeless and opt to live illegally in Thailand... If I die here so be it... But at least when I have good days, imget to spend them in Thailand!
You have been heavily discriminated against. I think these health workers should be diagnosed with personality disorder, as they don't seem to have any empathy. I was actually released without any mental health disorder but then a social worker started going on about my mental illness. A lot of the time the stigma of requesting help makes you vulnerable to the psychos who work in the system. Just because a person has a tittle, it doesn't mean they are trustworthy. Thank you for your video: it helped me feel less alone x
I agree that these health workers should be diagnosed with personality disorder. Sadly it's Service Users and Patients who are given PD label for speaking out about poor care and neglect. Health workers cannot stand being challenged. Unfortunately, once they give PD label (often a misdiagnosis) it's difficult to get it deleted. It's a mental health service alright. Completely mental.
the narc and psychopaths are running the show they couldnt give a dam about your mental health there gaslighting patient saying healthy people have disorders they dont have geting them on meds they dont need geting back handers Society isn’t going to take care of your mental health It’s your responsibility to take care of yourself
I understand ive had similar problems except ive never got to a stage where i got any treatment, its been years and ive begged ive complained n theyve just called me a liar and said im remembering wrong, if u complain nothing happens they just make u out to have bpd and ur a liar
One guy i knew had a melt down at the clinic through sheer frustration at how his schizophrenia was being treated and smashed the place up then storm through the building forcing the two idiot psychiatrists and their lackeys to barricade their doors lol i dont condone violence but i could understand. Then about a year after that my freind after being to prison for it when he should have been in a mental ward went to the local ferry port filled his pockets with rocks and jumped into a very deep area if it wasn't for a guard spotting him and diving in to rescue him he would have died which i know those psychiatrists would have liked but afterwards because of the sheer craziness of what he did his case was too well known for them to ignore and now finally after all that shit he's getting treatment and the right benefits to live a clean quiet life in a nice flat to recover at last.
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Thank you so much for sharing. Thousands of us are being denied our basic human rights to be heard and treated with respect. We cannot possibly hope to win our right to be heard by the NHS given that it is so huge and neither will protesting change anything. There must be something we can do collectively. Far too many of us are trying to take our own precious lives when all we are asking for is to be heard, validated and treated with compassion. Empathy seems to be on the decrease and bullying on the increase. Cut-backs are no excuse for mistreating others!
The trauma of engaging with services is very real.
When they get things wrong they defame the victim and won't investigate complaint. Once they discredit a person they say what they like.
Its plain and simple systematic abuse once the cover ups start.
All organisations follow the same corrupt unwritten procedures and avoid the written ones ...
chris turner totally agree. My complaints have always fallen totally flat.
From their angle any potential serious liability / fault issues within complaints guarantee a complaint will be aggressively shelved.
This paranoid liability angle supersedes any duty of care or duty of candour.
Often they deliberately label people with unresolved complaint vexatious in order to discredit them.
Once this happens they will only deal with solicitors (most of us don't have access to, or the inclination) which adds to the frustration and personal damage.
Its wrong vulnerable people genuinely seeking help and support are routinely abused, victimised and ostracised this way.
Services massively contribute to compounding ill health sometimes, seemingly unaware of their own gross incompetence.
It probably is the minority, but it only takes one rogue operative to cause untold far reaching damage ...
As complaints are deliberately mismanaged, perpetrators just carry on.
I wish there was an easy answer.
I can to relate to this I too have been discriminated against by adult Community mental health services in the community & some awwfuly horrid mental health staff in some of these to say the least . Their is alot f people with mental health problems that are sadly being let down repeatedly from adult Community health services I was one of them . so I can relate to alot of these comments on here
its not external events that cuases trauma or results in the way we feel its the through forms we assign to that experience that does that its not what others say its how we internalize it that determines how we feel
I was diagnosed at having EUPD years ago when the mental health system was a lot lot better than it is now. I haven't been seen for years by the NHS for mental health for years and this year me and my husband was so desperate that we paid to have a consultation with a private psychiatrist and he diagnosed me with Bipolar which came as no surprise to me at all because that's what I thought I had anyway. The NHS don't seem to want to know about my Bipolar diagnosis at all and have offered me no medication or follow ups with the mental health team or anything. I've got the crisis team at the moment and even they are having major trouble getting the mental health team to do anything or even to get me an appointment to see an NHS Psychiatrist. We're not rolling in money so can't keep going private. The NHS are absolutely useless with mental health now.
They act like mental health conditions can be cured by shitty coping mechanisms like going to sleep early or not going on your phone. Like yes those things can HELP slightly but in no way do they actually do anything.
This is just how I feel, I have BPD and Depression and have no credibility in the service I use. Any complaint i make is put down to me "misinterpreting" the conversation or facts, and I am so frustrated and sick of it. I do not believe some people want to work with vulnerable people for the right reasons, and are very cruel. It's not all about cutbacks its about the people who are employed, and lack of accountability for their words and actions.
Health professionals are in a position of almost absolute power.... sadly some enjoy that power, so its often abused by those wanting to manipulate situations to preserve or enhance their power.
I find it disturbing how common gross dishonesty and emotional abuse is employed in and formally supported by the service network
Oh god, yes! The stigma I have encountered has been from the 'professionals'. I have also lost trust in the system and we do need to make people aware of what is going on xx
I believe you , I told a psychiatrist I was so depressed I wanted to be put down , and she said "its a shame we don't practice euthanasia in Ireland "
Thats awful, im so sorry you had to experience this kind of reaction too ♡♡♡
you seem like a really kind woman , sorry you had to go through it too x
What the fuck that’s terrible, I’m so so sorry you had to go through that
thats what you call a narcissist the mental health system is infested with them that empathy for what someone going though gone out the window
I ended up going into private therapy (with help from my family) NHS would have sent me over the edge. They didn't care at all!
Neil j Voice totally understand - they sent me over the edge too!
@@katiehoughton1278 And me.
I've been discriminated against by previous community mental health team so I can totally relate to where you are coming from . It's got to the point I can know longer trust mental health professionals community mental health teams for adults are under funded NHS complaints I agree are swept under the carpet I've had mental health discrimination from mental health community mental health teams . Community care provision you are a true inspiration ...
katie houghton, Thank you so so much, I've had almost the exact situations over 2 decades, my bipolar was left untreated etc etc (i could go on forever) the only positive aspect was that I got so annoyed/rageful that it distracted me from doing something to take my life, since then I'm medicated properly, psychology degree and look after myself really well . It takes a lot to do what you have done, your honesty will be helping so many-so remember that when you feel low . Ive been thinking of setting up something similar myself, may the fight continue, love to all who are struggling
It’s really sad that you literally have to threaten to hurt yourself/take your own life for them to even take into mind that you need to be diagnosed/need medication or therapy.
Nhs loves the UPTD/BPD diagnosis cuz it saves them money. “Hospital won’t help neither will meds’” basically told to piss odd and suffer
Katie you are an inspiration, I hope that you stay on your feet and never give up. Mental health is a hit and miss in my experience. 10% of the support is very helpful, 90% suck. Thanks for uploading this 👌
Harrys Cupboard Music thank you so much ♡♡♡♡♡
katie houghton Nope, thank YOU very much Katie - keep posting, please?! 👌
I have been passed from pillar to post in services
From IAPT primary care who told me I was to complex a case so referred to IAPT secondary care again I'm to complex a case then referred to IAPT terchiary care who told me I wasn't dead / ILL enough to warrant help
This is happening to me. I de-registered from my GP. I don’t trust them either.
the narc and psychopaths are running the show they couldnt give a dam about your mental health there gaslighting patient
saying healthy people have disorders they dont have geting them on meds they dont need geting back handers Society isn’t going to take care of your mental health
It’s your responsibility to take care of yourself
Thanks so much for posting this! :) I'm starting another complaint but waiting for another dismissal lol. I was just wondering how things are going for you a year on? x
It's a bloody nightmare, I've been taken to emergency services by the police and by family and they have simply turned me away.
Speak up about it?
My GP knows, my former therapist knows...and still although they are both reasonable people they tell me there is a shortage of beds and so I couldn't be seen as an inpatient.
I'm now homeless and opt to live illegally in Thailand... If I die here so be it... But at least when I have good days, imget to spend them in Thailand!
Agreed
You have been heavily discriminated against. I think these health workers should be diagnosed with personality disorder, as they don't seem to have any empathy. I was actually released without any mental health disorder but then a social worker started going on about my mental illness. A lot of the time the stigma of requesting help makes you vulnerable to the psychos who work in the system. Just because a person has a tittle, it doesn't mean they are trustworthy. Thank you for your video: it helped me feel less alone x
I agree that these health workers should be diagnosed with personality disorder. Sadly it's Service Users and Patients who are given PD label for speaking out about poor care and neglect. Health workers cannot stand being challenged. Unfortunately, once they give PD label (often a misdiagnosis) it's difficult to get it deleted. It's a mental health service alright. Completely mental.
Saw a psychiatrist he called me a cop out I went to bed for a year. Power corrupts.
the narc and psychopaths are running the show they couldnt give a dam about your mental health there gaslighting patient
saying healthy people have disorders they dont have geting them on meds they dont need geting back handers Society isn’t going to take care of your mental health
It’s your responsibility to take care of yourself
I understand ive had similar problems except ive never got to a stage where i got any treatment, its been years and ive begged ive complained n theyve just called me a liar and said im remembering wrong, if u complain nothing happens they just make u out to have bpd and ur a liar
One guy i knew had a melt down at the clinic through sheer frustration at how his schizophrenia was being treated and smashed the place up then storm through the building forcing the two idiot psychiatrists and their lackeys to barricade their doors lol i dont condone violence but i could understand. Then about a year after that my freind after being to prison for it when he should have been in a mental ward went to the local ferry port filled his pockets with rocks and jumped into a very deep area if it wasn't for a guard spotting him and diving in to rescue him he would have died which i know those psychiatrists would have liked but afterwards because of the sheer craziness of what he did his case was too well known for them to ignore and now finally after all that shit he's getting treatment and the right benefits to live a clean quiet life in a nice flat to recover at last.
take him to court.
and that nurse.