2013 Ford Transit 3.2-liter Power Stroke® Diesel engine
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
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2024 Update Here, I lost my first Engine at 25,000 miles due to EGR failure. Ford warrenty took care of this snd replaced the engine, At 100,000 miles the DPF clogged, so I had it removed along with all the other emissions BS, Transit Van just turned 193,000 miles and still running strong. Oil changes with Rotella T-6 every 5,000-7,000 miles. I need a new Van but no more diesel option from Ford
I have this engine in my 2014 Ranger Wildtrack and it runs great! It does not have all of the EPA crap on it so I guess that is why it runs so well! The pickup is one of the best Fords I have ever owned and I have owned 7 since 1995. I am thinking about shipping it to the US if I move back but with all the requirements on emissions, I do not know if I will be required to add them to it. The truck was built in Thailand and destined for Australia but I got it before it could be sold in Thailand. Now they are creeping up in sales all over Asia and I predict they will surpass Toyota and Isuzu in the next few years.
Same here! I love the V8's, but its really time for something smaller for those of us that don't need something so huge. Lets just hope it can deal with the cold in Canada!
I`m glad there`s another POWERSTROKE engine in the states
Several important issues about the 3.2 Powerstroke that need to be made.
First Issue: EGR is the absolute worst way to lower emissions. Its is a lesson in engineering hypocrisy.
The purpose of a Exhaust Gas Return system is to lower the combustion temperature in the engine. The reason for this is to lower the amount of NOx produced during combustion.
There are two fatal flaws in this concept.
1. Recirculating exhaust gasses starves the combustion of the fuel, resulting in high levels soot and carbon monoxide.
2. The EGR system requires the exhaust gasses to be cooled before they are returned to the intake manifold, which will cause soot to build up in the heat exchanger, eventually clog it. When that happens, well let me just remind you of all the problems with the 6.0 powerstroke.
To clean up the mess of the EGR system, they commonly use a Diesel Particulate Filter. This gismo does just what it's name implies, it filters out most of the soot and CO from the exhaust. Problem is, the filter eventually fills up. So to prevent it from clogging up you exhaust, they use a process called "regeneration" to clean out the soot. This is basically shoving way too much fuel into the cylinder, and letting the combustion extend beyond the confines of the cylinder to reach down the exhaust system and burn off all the carbon that has built up in the filter. -- Anyone starting to see a major problem here?
The end result of this dynamic duo is a lot of fuel gets spent without producing any power, causing your fuel economy to take a shortcut to china along with sending your EGT on a lunar mission. The majority of the NOx the EGR prevented is produced during the regeneration cycle. And the EGR cooler is a ticking time bomb that's going to blow your engine up if you're not careful.
In my experience adding a more efficient intercooler will do a lot more to lower combustion temps than an EGR system. Cooler in means cooler out. On my toy rig I like to experiment, and one of my latest ideas was to add extra pressure tank to my pneumatic system. This second tank is filled every time my main tank is full, bleeding off the excess air volume to the second tank. I've also added a charge cooler to the pneumatics. The secondary tank is used as a boost charger to fill in the boost lag gap. This
Second Issue: Its an inline five. Yes to save on length vs an inline 6, as one cylinder is left off, but it leads to a long list of design complications.
By removing one cylinder you lose the inherent balance of the I6. The engine has balance issues in all three orders, requiring a balancing shaft to cancel them out. While removing one cylinder from the design may reduce parts count, weight, and to some extent friction losses, the added complexity needed to balance it pretty much counter all your gains. The only real gain is a reduction in overall engine length.
IMO It would have been wiser for Ford to have simply developed an I6. Adding that cylinder back on to this engine would make a 3.8L inline 6. And with proper kitting out would be a nice engine to drop into a Mustang.
Hey, if they are going to make the new Stang a world brand they might as well go all the way! And no dinky ass I4's either. I don't care if the Diesel engine out shines the gasser V8. If your going to do it, do it right!
Third issue is Materials: If Ford can build the block of the 6.7 from CGI, why the heck are they using gray iron for this engine? And Aluminum heads are a joke!
Ford needs to start flexing its engineering might and design a family of mid sized (between 200 and 300 cid) diesel I6's that have the performance aftermarket in mind during their development. Engines that are designed to save on weight, while retaining strength, along with engineering in common, yet expensive, aftermarket mods, IE Head studs, so that economy of scale can mitigate a lot of the cost.
Give us a sexy diesel in a Mustang, then let Roush go hog wild with it! Make some real noise! Simply put, make diesel sexy and america will eat it up!
Before you say anything bad about the concept of a diesel engine with 5 cylinders in line, you should do a little research on which engines have proven to be the most durable in the history of diesel engines, which are the old Mercedes diesel engines with 5 cylinders. Explore a little history of Mercedes diesel engines with 5 cylinders in line. I see that you have knowledge, but you turn into overbearingness, so you embarrass yourself. It's amazing that you take the even number of cylinders as inviolable. I am from Europe, so my English may not be the best, but you will understand what I wanted to say. If you think that the people at Ford are idiots and at Mercedes are geniuses, if you think that the Americans are an inferior nation and don't know how to make a simple diesel engine and that the Germans are superior...then say it out loud, don't hide behind the story about engines.
Egr starve of the engine of fuel? I can tell you don’t know what you are talking about.
What he forgot to mention:
1.Oil pump looses prime through poor quality non return valve in the PURFLEX oil cooler / filter assembly
2. The DENSO fuel injectors fail to to premature wear and blow holes or cracks the pistons due to concentrated fuel injection.
3. The EGR fails at 35 000 miles.
4. The starter motor rotor becomes contaminated by clutch dust and destroys the armature.
5. The intercooler is undersized so will cause over heating issues when in hot climates like the southern states.
6. The oil pump will fail at 50 000 miles....
7. Expect constant electronic issues.
I've never understood why the hell we in the US have to have EGR?? I mean WTF?!?!?? yeah, that's smart, let's refeed the engine it's own exhaust... How about we breath in our own farts for better energy...
The European 3.2 Makes 200 Hp and 350 ft/lb , the American one makes 185 Hp and 350 ft/lbs
We have EGR because not everybody want to smell diesel exhaust fumes. The next time you see a new diesel truck at idle. Smell the clean exhaust. You want believe it's that clean.
Now if they could stop nasty ass truck driver from pissing next to their trucks.
So in order to clean up the exhaust, they introduce another noxious poisonous chemical into the atmosphere in its place. DPF is a joke. It's a lie. The entire system incinerated the visible soot down to a particle so small that it passes directly through your lung tissue and into your bloodstream. The EGR system does little to nothing, as when the vehicle is actually under a load there is a bypass valve that causes the EGR system to shut off. The only time when it's really needed, the EGR is not actually operational. And don't even get me started about scr. Those things are even worse. Yeah let's trade nox for ammonia. That makes a lot of sense. The only reason we're running this crap in the United States is because people don't like to see the black smoke. The fact is, a standard diesel without all of that crap strapped onto it burns cleaner than a gasoline engine with all of the EPA stuff on it. It does that because it's more thermally efficient and when properly tuned will not puff any black smoke at all.
Nothing but a grenade dropping like flies here in oz
Always a good laugh when someone tires to compare a hunk of metal to human physiology.
put in the f150 all ready
No it will cut down on their profit.
Hello sir.
Mazda bt50 and ford ranger the same machine?
Proven record of reliability and durability in markets where it's not forced to breathe its own damned exhaust. The only places where this engine is actually considered a living legend is Australia and South America, places where they don't have to run scr DPF and EGR. I know from experience. I own one of these pieces of crap. I've owned it for 2 years, and in that time it's been broken down a total of six months. This is primarily due to the fact that no Ford dealership in the country has a truly qualified person capable of working on it, but is also a result of the fact that they did not properly put the logistics in place to support the damn thing before they released it into the market. The high pressure fuel pump on mine blew up, and it took 62 days for them to finally return it to working order because they couldn't find all of the parts. And what did Ford do for me? Nothing. They claimed that the damage was caused by water in the fuel tank. Wiped their hands like Pontius Pilate and left me holding the bag. I've also encountered numerous wiring issues with the steering column, body control module and its Associated harness, the exhaust system is a pile of steaming crap that constantly breaks, and in my opinion, having owned this piece of crap for the last 2 years, the entire thing is designed to fail. Plastic parts Where Metal should be used. Proprietary codes that you cannot read. And just because it's a diesel, Ford feels that you have to pay them an additional $100 to $300 just to hook it up and diagnose the problem. This despite the fact that the same exact VCM IDS interface is used across the entire Ford Fleet of vehicles. It's a rip-off. Ford has completely nosedived in terms of quality and customer service. This is a shit design, a shit engine, and it needs to be taken off the damn Market.
They need to put it in the f150 and quick to catch up with dodge and chevy
If not the F150, certainly a compact Ford Ranger truck, or how about a good swap for a vintage Ford Bronco II SUV from the 80s?
***** Never mind what other car companies do, this is Ford's baby, and as such, Ford needs to take the initiative.
thats a good idea a 1/2 ton option but i want my 6.9 idi back i can only rebuild it 2 times ans im at 600k so thats one i only have 1200k befor its not rebuildabel
VK7001.P I agree. I remember when diesel trucks used indirect injection.
Jason Carpp yea but can you imagin is they used the neew compacted grafite iron to remake the 6.9 it would be 30% lighter and last 50% longer and it will have a tighter fit with better turbos dream come true throw a burly T18 behind it and you have a real truck
My 2017 Transit 350-HD 3.2L Diesel has been a Money Pit Nightmare!! Never again Ford !!! Goodbye
What problems?
My dad got one in november of 2018 and i my self have put 330.000 miles as of today 7/11/22 and havent had any engine, transmition and axel problems.
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3.2.. Too small man. A powerstroke ranger yea awesome
i think best diesel engine...
Please put it in the f150!! I wil buy one tomorow if they did!!!
is the 3.2 diesel engine the same engine as ford everest in austrailia
Yeah same engine as the Everest and Ranger. Good little engine imo I have a Mk2 Ranger and it works a treat
Why don't they offer the diesel engine here in North America? Diesel may not be for everyone, but so what? That should be our decision to make, and not the car maker, nor the USA-EPA.
They do. This engine is available in the US market.
Tanner King In 3.2 litre form? Really?
Tanner King Is it? I haven't heard any advertisements about the engine.
Jason Carpp It's only for the transit (large) model. Diesel here is for commercial driving.
But a nice tdi cr is wonderful on the highway.
It's a shame that it's not available for the Transit Connect. I was in England in September, and I saw quite a lot of Transit and Transit Connect vans and trucks, and most of them were powered by turbo diesel engines. So why not here in North America?
Yeah, and I have it in my "global" Ranger
Question 3.2 diesel 5 cilinder engine the global name is duratorq why change in américa for powerstroke
Raça forte because in the United States, ford diesel engines carry the power stroke name plate. Simply just a matter of marketing.
So, basically he's saying this is the engine that is put in the Ford Ranger that everybody has the opportunity to buy with the exception of the people from "the home of the free and land of the brave." ??? WOW ... Francis Scott Key would be rolling over in his grave if he knew what was happening in the good ole U.S.A. in 2017.
I see it being availible in a passenger car.
egr is stupid but it has been around since 50 60,s reduce combustion temps
Lol I wouldn't really say the 6.7 is good on fuel, it's a good engine but eats fuel like it's free
Took them long enough to make an inline
Actually any excuse does not wash well for me by not having the diese global ranger in the states ... I will never buy and Eco-Boost and am not interested in another high maintenance petrol vehicle with a non-maintainable transmission.
Diesel with a Manual transmission ... Many of us who want the global ranger want the durable version as sold in Asia!
What are you going to do when you have to go diesel to sell your trucks?
I agree with you 100% ... The big question I'm asking ... Is the U.S. not "global" It's almost like the CEO of Ford said "F*** those people in the U.S. they don't need a Ford Ranger and absolutely not a Ford Ranger with a diesel engine"
Why does he keep referring to Europe as if it was a single country?
Ford Fan 2904 I hear people talk about America all the time as if it was a single country...
Ford Fan 2904 It is more or less a single market
+Capri Driver He specifically mentioned that the engine is sold in over 100 countries. Most thinking people don't wish to regurgitate a litany of "who cares" aka insignificant, mud holes that call themselves "countries". Europe should take care of it's legion of problems before it becomes completely irrelevant.
put it in the f150
Got this guy is completely full of crap. Cost of ownership? How about the fact that my van has cost me $32,000 above and beyond the initial asking price due to the fact that they don't honor their warranties? How about the fact that my 3.2 liter powerstroke Transit is right now sitting in a dealership with a piston that has a hole burned through it? This despite the fact that I regularly change the oil before the scheduled intervals. Regular coolant maintenance. Regular fluid changes. Regular transmission servicing. Regular Services of all types as required by the owner's manual has not stopped this vehicle from breaking down on a regular basis. Not one month goes by that I don't have some kind of engine trouble out of this piece of steaming shit.
Torque Converter Failure already, truck is 3-years old, 100,000 miles, brakes every 20,000 miles WTF !! Fuel Economy? 15-mpg Pathetic!!!
put it in the ford ranger
they did. i have a ranger with the 3.2l L5
hmm so todays so called reliable engines means adding ass much plastic as possible but not so much that it breaks during the warranty looks more like my civics engine but i think my engine will outlast that heap of modern plastic but theres nothing we can do im more impressed with dodges ecodiesel if they added rwd and that v6 diesel instead of the promasters i4 diesel and fwd it would be awesome
Its a actually composite plastic would melt
Well true its not plastic anything that resembles it I just call it plastic but it would be better just using aluminum
I personally think when the new Ford ranger comes back in 2019 to the i hope it has this engine
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Hello Nissan NV
if people were smart they would not put this in the F150s because that would kill the sales in the heavy duty trucks. i give it maybe a year and then Ram's heavy duty sales will drop with this "Eco-diesel engine." so i would keep it so the only turbo engine in the F150s is the "Eco-boost."
FUCK THE POWER STROKE I WANT MY 6.9 IDI BACK NOW cores are getting too hard to find at least cast another 50k blocks ffs hell use that new type of cast iron you got JUST FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DONT MAKE ME PUT DOWN OLD THUNDER
+VK70001.P Time to move into the 21st century.
Clint Myers until i can own a galaxy class star ship the 21st century can fuck right off
+VK70001.P :)
i dont give a fuck about egr just let me have the fucking engine.
Yeah just brilliant...................................NOT. From
owners talk , you would be Very fortunate if you get 30k miles
without it putting a leg out of bed . 2.2ltr 4 pot also crap. Apart
from broken pistons repeatedly , Faulty fuel senders, Turbo blowing
requiring engine replacements, turbo inter cooler failures , new
batteries all before 24 months. Yeah ! overall a great feat of
engineering & reliability FORD.
Oh! forgot to mention Customer Service
.......................................... What Customer Service
?????
Do yourselves a favor , and buy Japanese , or a GAS engine . ( European Review, we are only offered these crappy diesels)