The Curse of The Juggernaut: An LA Dodgers Tragedy
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You do know the Astros did not use that cheating tactic in the playoffs, right?
@@manzac112 The Astros cheating thing is totally overblown. They were better on the road in the years when they had the sign-stealing in place. If what they were doing was such a massive advantage, you'd expect they'd have Rockies-like splits at home - but nope. Higher batting average/OBP/SLG, more runs scored on the road in 2017 and 2018. It really wasn't why they won.
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doesn't mean it's a scam bro
During the regular season, the Dodgers played like a team that won 111 games. During the playoff, the Dodgers played like a team that lost 111 games.
I hate being that guy, but as a Nats fan I feel the need to add this:
2019 the Nationals went back to back off Kershaw, not a 2 run single. Also I think a very important piece of information to include is Dave Roberts leaving Joe Kelly out for a second inning in the 10th after having both struggled to end the year, AND him having not pitched multiple innings all year.
and yet somehow Joe Kelly is a hero in LA because he threw at Correa that one time
You are 100% correct. Very refreshing to see someone on social media who actually understands the game.
Worst money spent Joe Kelly
Nationals cheated
W
“…winning six World Series totes from 1890 to 2012.” Keep in mind: that first title didn’t come until 1955. I would argue the Dodgers suffered as much heartbreak between 1941 and 1954 as 2013 through 2022.
You sir have excellent knowledge of baseball history. I applaud you for bringing this up. Those teams were a true powerhouse, but didn't break through until Johnny Podres put them on his back during the Series in '55. With some defensive help in game 7 from Sandy Amoros.
I didn’t think the World Series even existed in the 1800s.
It's true
As a hardcore Dodger fan, even I have to admit I don't know how we've been able to escape media scrutiny as much as we have. We won in 2020 but I'm talking even prior to that.
The 111 win season only to lose in the first round was abysmal.
The playoffs are never about talent; they're about who gets hot at the right time, and who goes cold at the wrong time.
Spoken like someone who hasn't see a championship in a long, long time. 😀
@@edmundkempersdartboard173he’s not wrong tho. Why do you think the braves made it in 2021 and the Phillies in 2022. Both were trash during the regular season but did good in the playoffs. The teams just get hot
@@olik5652he’s wrong. How can you play ALL season good then just struggle in postseason.
@@xozzyx319 because when your team gets cold at the wrong time you’re not gonna do good.
Um, the Astros handled their business last year and they were ranked 1st in the AL. What’s the Dodgers excuse?
It can't be understated how absurd 111-51 is. It's just incredible. You aren't meant to win that many games in the MLB. Any team that wins that many games should basically just be sent straight to game 4 of the World Series up 20-0 in the bottom of the 9th with 2 out.
It'd be like an NBA team going 73-9 and losing the Finals, or an NFL team going undefeated but losing the Super Bowl, or an NHL team winning 58 games and getting swept in the second round
Oh wait, Those feats already happened; 2015-16 Golden State Warriors went 73-9 during the regular season and lost in seven games to the 57-25 Cleveland Cavaliers. 2007 New England Patriots went 16-0 during the regular were 18-0 going in to Super Bowl 42 against the New York Giants…. And lost 17-14. And finally for the NHL; the 2019 Tampa Bay went 62-16-4 for 128 points and tied them for most wins in a season with 1995-96 Detroit Red Wings. Tampa Bay’s first matchup in the first round of the 2019 Stanley Cup Playoffs, the 47-31-4 Columbus Blue Jackets. The Blue Jackets sweep the Lightning quite convincingly in four games.
Success during the regular for any crazy good team doesn’t mean sh*t in the playoffs
Oh man terminator 69
@@terminator6950 that’s the joke…
@@skip0 True, True, but I like bringing up sports moments from the past that people sad again
@@terminator6950 fair enough. Still don’t know how that warriors team lost that series. Boggles my mind completely.
What makes it even more stunning is the fact that Dave Roberts promised the Dodgers would win the World Series this year. He is the biggest choke artist manager, yet the Dodgers continue to hire him.
I’m an Astros fan. I was hoping it would’ve been Astros vs Dodgers. But that’s an another issue. The main deal is, why do they keep Dave Roberts? If I was the Dodgers owners, I’ll fire his ass after this loss to the Padres.
he said if the pitching staff stayed healthy, which is questionable
@@Alex-sk9bm and tony had to get hurt :(. He jinxed us so hard. Imagine the goose in peak form.
Honestly should've gotten fired for 2018. They were in position to tie the series at 2 and his bullpen management cost them that
Ngl, I think most baseball fans knew the dodgers would somehow blow it. If not against the Padres, someone else
Regular season success does not equal playoff success, ask the 1990s-mid2000s Atlanta teams...sometimes there are upsets, whatever the reason...but, to paraphrase Oakland baseball head Billy Beane: " My S#!T(Moneyball) doesn't work in the playoffs " Well, analytics are the descendant of Moneyball, and managing games strictly by analytics in a playoff game isn't optimal, in the playoffs, you have to manage by feel and intuition...which is a reason why some of the analytics driven clubs(including the Dodgers, Tampa fits here too) have playoff trouble...and it isn't just Roberts specifically, any manager the analytics driven clubs hire will be hindered because they aren't used to managing by feel and intuition, by design. Until and unless the GMs allow managers to actually MANAGE, this problem will continue to arise
It does work. You just need a larger sample size lol
@@Bk6346 and playoffs, by definition, aren't a large enough sample size...
Except if it’s your team
We can throw aaron boone and the yankees in there too
The Rays still made the WS twice, how many other teams haven't done that in the timespan?
Only the Dodgers can turn such success into an absolute joke 🤦♂️
In soccer/football, roberts wouldve been fired 4 different times by now. It's ridiculous how much trust the front office has in this guy. Also analytics need to be thrown out the window come playoffs
Yes but clubs who do that are at the same place . It's the players, not the manager.
Who said it's a different sport?
The front office is making all of the on field decisions though, Roberts is just the figure head, the Dodgers don't do anything the computer doesn't tell them to do. Roberts can't manage because he's never had to.
It's important to point out that in 2018 the RedSox were also cheating and while the dodgers only won 92 games they had a lot of bad luck, their Pythag had them at 102 wins for that season.
The Astros and Red Sox are scummy as hell but they can’t cheat at Dodger stadium which is where they won clinching games lol. Stop crying the Dodgers are the greatest embarrassment in sports
Yep, just another garbage video pushing an overblown story.
"Worst cheating scandal in MLB history."
"We're going to gloss over 2018 for the sake of time."
Pathetic, really. What the Sox did was arguably worse because it was silent. Opposing teams couldn't even audibly detect it, and the players refused to cooperate with investigators. They also had months to read Manfred's memo and continued doing it. The Astros, on the other hand, got the memo in September and abandoned the system within 7 games.
@@Korijenkins1414 Was there anybody of particular note on that Red Sox team? Maybe a player who now plays for the Dodgers?
Boy it sure would be a bit hypocritical of Dodger fans to cry hard about the Sox cheating while also simultaneously buying a jersey from one of those players, wouldn't it?
Oh... and here's the real funny thing about the Astros scandal: you can't deny that they cheated... but you CAN come to the logical conclusion that they didn't NEED to...
They're in their SEVENTH ALCS in a row... they've played in FOUR of the last SIX World Series (and literally won it all last year)...
Soooooooo... I mean.... did they cheat the Dodgers out of a ring? Or did they really just cheat themselves out of legitimacy? Because they're not cheating now... and they still dominate...
Whereas the Dodgers keep trying to convince us that a Mickey Mouse ring still counts, but they haven't even SNIFFED the World Series since the sixty game shortened season...
Why is that?
I love this video, because the prevailing "wisdom" among a lot of older Dodgers fans is that Roberts loses because he listens to the analytics, but you pointed out times that he would have used the analytics in the regular season, and did something different in the postseason.
"Dave Roberts Overmanager 2023!"
-Urinating Tree
And yet somehow, the LA higher-ups are still keeping Dave Roberts around for another year. If I were the owner of the Dodgers, I would have fired him 10 times over by now.
It's cause the Dodgers don't really care about winning. They still print money either way.
Definitely agree with you. If I was Dodgers owner, this postseason would’ve been Dave Roberts’ do-or-die postseason. I think it was Dusty’s do-or-die postseason too. If Astros had lost, Dusty would’ve been let go, no doubt. Astros owner is more demanding. With Dodgers’ owner weak mentality, do you think Dodgers will even get to WS in 2023? Hell no.
He's not the Problem
Roberts not being fired proves ownership's commitment to nearly win titles.
As an Astros fan who has enjoyed watching the Dodgers choke, I feel like it’s mainly on Dave Roberts. He seems to always make one or two key questionable decisions that cost them big games
as a dodgers fan who loves watching the astros lose 2 world series in 3 years, first of all fuck you, but yes roberts always makes dumbass decisions and it gets worse every year
Didn’t mention the Red Sox cheating? Weird.
I get that Dodgers fans have big expectations so of course they're gonna be disappointed BUT as a Cubs fan it's hard to be sympathetic. Your team has won how many division titles and NL pennants in the last 10 years?
I told people the team had holes all year, and anything can happen in a short series which is why i actually hated winning that many games. Mookie got screwed by the umps all series.
And of course SD traded for Soto/Bell and Hader.
Last year Muncy got hurt on the last day of the season and Max Scherzer ran out of gas in the NLCS.
P.S. Trevor Bauer never played either.
I loved the 2016-19 Dodgers. My rationale is that I don't expect to win every time. The upset stats and whole video are impressive, thank you!
loving these longer form videos
2018 Red Sox getting too many people glossing over the fact that they cheated
The dodgers are in denial. They act as if NOTHING is wrong. I still remmeber watching Clayton go up in the nationals game-I thought “wait what? Why is Clayton, a SP, who Struggles in the postseason even in the game now?!?” That’s when I knew that the dodgers would always struggle. Dave roberts may be great in the regular season as was Don mattingly but they always make stupid mistakes. As you said in the beginning, robert’s late decision for the relief pitcher was bad but also his reaction to his pitcher’s ball was uncalled for. Jsut go up to the pitcher explain, your game plan, and buy some time. He’ll-he could actually throw a ball if he needs too. But nope.
Honestly, roberts prob should be fired. And the dodgers front office needs to stop enabling bad decisions.
Who’s here after they just got swept by the DBacks 😂
You missed the fact that they gave Juan Soto a free stolen base right before Cronenworth hit the go ahead double.
Analytics are not meant for a 7-game series, rather over a long season.
Soto didn’t have a 2 RBI knock in 2019 Game 5. Anthony Rendon and Soto had back to back homers to tie it up.
Biggest playoff upset in Baseball History? 2006 St. Louis Cardinals = Hold my beer.
Dave Rogers is a college coach at best but constantly falls short when it comes to pro ball. He plays everything by the book and doesn't let the magic of the team come to life. This is what will keep L.A. from ever being a legacy team.
I was there for the celebration it was LIT
In the post-season against the Padres, the Dodgers batted .201 in the series, with men in scoring position, they batted .127. They're bullpen ERA was 7.12. Their starters were 4.85. They committed 8 errors.
Even the best team can play horrible in the playoffs, that's just baseball.
Records are obviously a huge factor, but the talent level of the playoff roster is more precise. 2021 had a lot of Dodgers go down with injuries the last week of the season meaning they couldn’t to trade for players because it was way past the trade deadline. Also, same goes for the 2022 Padres who dramatically bolstered their roster at the trade deadline. Lots of other factors other than wins/talent, but at least factor in the talent level of the team come the playoffs.
As an LA native and Dodgers fan we have always been used to this for all of our lives as dodgers fans. MOST to all of us want Roberts gone and the team is way too analytical. The team makes the wrong trades or FA moves and no has the FIRE in them. This is why most of us care about the Lakers, yes they have been bad of recent but they have won more. Overall we love our dodgers but like Mets,cubs, and (pre-2004 Red Sox) we always expect the worst in October.
To be disappointed by the Dodgers' lack of multiple World Series titles is to ignore just how hard it is to win. In the last ten years, 10 consecutive post season berths, 9 division titles, three NL pennants, a World Series title....you've had the best decade of any team, by far, and among the best stretches in baseball history. There's no such thing as "world series or bust." Its a fantasy. Enjoy your rather pleasant reality.
3 rings by the Giants, 2 by the Astros who have 4 pennants prove you don’t know what really matters lol. You want a cookie or a star sticker? Go win the final game of the season first and have a parade for once before considering the Dodgers anything else then the laughing stock of all sports
@@Rebel-eq7ul how are they a laughing stock?
@@andresramirez4469 the greatest chokers money can buy lol. And all their home grown talent leaves and their best players won their MVPs and ring elsewhere and they don’t know what a title parade is. Bums
Save them all you want; I’ve been alive for 27 years - their history has literally only been dominant regular seasons and chokes lmao
As a dodger fan, yupp.
The Dodgers managers in the past have never been great they only look good because the Dodgers as a whole team make them look good look at Don Mattingly for an example he was good with the Dodgers as their manager because the Dodgers team makes him look good and then he goes to the Miami Marlins and he doesn't do well with them at all same thing will happen with Dave Roberts once he eventually leaves the Dodgers and becomes the manager of a different team
Keep up the good work!
Part of being a Dodgers fan is disappointment. It’s why the Brooklyn club was known as ‘the bums’. They broke fans hearts year after year despite the immense talent they just couldn’t get past the Yankees. Your stats are correct and reflect our feelings of disappointment but I’m a Dodgers fan for life and accept the fact they will always find ways to break our hearts which will make it all the more sweet when they do finally win the WS again. I tend to view 2020 as a minor title but not the real deal. They need to do it in a full season to break the stigma of the last decade of regular season success. Honestly I’d love to see them do it this year as a wild card team given expectations are way down given they had to get under the luxury tax this year. It’d be fitting if they sneak in with just over 90 wins in 23 and win it all doing what the mega 100+ teams couldn’t.
The dodgers lost 2 out of 4 at home in 2017. They lost and I wear the T-shirt just like I plan on wearing the 2022 T-shirt.
Dahmer: "We're gonna watch the Dodgers choke again, and then you can Leave..."
Go Padres!
27 out of the 30 clubs would have killed for this kind of run.
Groovy man.
Dodgers always over think the situations and beat them selves
Am I the only one who has a problem with the fact that when the video talks about the Brooklyn Grays of the 1800's that you're showing pictures of the Homestead Grays, the legendary Negro Leagues team? They were decidedly NOT the same team...
Yes. That few second photo/video clip of Homestead Grays being identified as Brooklyn squad really reduces your credibility. With the history of baseball as it was, and with Jackie (of the Dodgers no less) so ceremoniously breaking that barrier years later, that is really a mistake that should’ve happened.
You’re not the only one. I produce commercials for a living. If I made the egregious mistakes so many RUclipsrs make…if I failed to check my work carefully before submitting it…if I failed to correct my mistakes…I would’ve been out of the business a long time ago.
The Grays pictures you showed are for the Homestead Grays not the Brooklyn Grays.
nice to relish in LA failure as an Astro fan
Dodgers being the richer version of the 90s Braves is funny as hell
brings a tear to my eye what the astros and red sox did to the chokers on the world stage
the question is why do they always choke? is it roberts? it it too much time off and getting relaxed? is it the numbers game instead of baseball instinct?
Mine is bullpen fatigue. The dodgers use their bullpen a lot in the regular season. They rely on them a lot. Notice how a lot of the losses are late innings?
@Made The Cut can you do teoscar hernandez showing off his arm?
Im not a big fan of the dodgers but Ive seen a ton of games since my mom is a huge dodgers fan and I will say Dave Roberts is probably the biggest reason why the dodgers haven't been successful. I mean this dude blows my mind with the amount of awful moves he makes lmao. No team can win when u have a manager who blows big games consistently like that
Wrong, Kershaw is the biggest problem
WRONG
Watching the Dodgers choke in the postseason is my second favorite holiday
Even know we lost in the nlcs beating the dodgers was like winning the ws for me
Your gm traded the whole farm to go further.
That’s sad, but I have to admit when we beat the Giants in 2021, it felt really sweet lol
@@hepatitiscyalater7269 they dont need the farm anymore if there core is really young and Ik Preller will replenish the farm
At least u admitted what all padres fans aren’t willing to say lol. That was the padres’ World Series
Small time comment about a small time stinker (worst in mlb in overall win/loss percentage) team , by a small petty minded fan.
I hate to bring it up, but we blew a 3-0 lead to our little brother franchise and watch them win it all. THAT’s the biggest upset in postseason baseball.
I am an Astros fan, but I would agree the 2004 Boston Red Sox coming back against a Dynasty in the New York Yankees is the greatest comeback in all of North American Sports.
In fairness, that '04 series was only a huge upset because of the 0-3 hole that the Sox climbed out of. It wasn't a huge upset in terms of the relative quality of the teams. A person picking Boston to win that Series before Game 1 wouldn't have been predicting anything shocking. So if we're talking about pure results, I think this Padres/Dodgers series is a bigger upset. But when you include the path taken to get to the end result, it's gotta be Sox-Yanks 2004.
As much you hurt me that I gotta thumbs up you I feel your pain , you sound like a heartbroken but true blue dodger am I right ?
@@benjaminmartinezjr110 Diehard Yankee fan, but a baseball fan more than anything.
@@benjaminmartinezjr110 If you're talking to me...man, did you read that wrong. I'm a Giants fan, so I wasn't so much "heartbroken" by Dodgers losing to the Padres as "walking around smiling for months and occasionally laughing for no reason because I remembered what joy felt like. It was Christmas in October."
Not heartbroken. Beat LA. Always. I'm glad they lost. And I'm glad the Astros won because I know most Dodger fans were rooting hardest against them. (I also say 2017 was totally legit.)
That said, the Red Sox/Yankees series is clearly the bigger upset because the blown 3-0 lead.
What happened to the Dodgers was stunning at the time, but it was also just a thing that happens. It's an upset. That's why you play the games and all. But ultimately, it'll be remembered mostly in San Diego and LA (and San Francisco because it can't be a "bitter" rivalry without bitterness and petty revelry in the other's pain), but nowhere else. It's not one for the history books. It wasn't even a choke job - they just lost 3 of 4 to a good team. Not a better team, but still a very good one. They never blew any huge lead - they were up 3-0 in the 7th of Game 4, but leads like that disappear all the time.
Yankees/Red Sox 2004 was the all-time comeback/choke job. I think it was the greatest upset in baseball history. Not because the Yankees were so much better, but because of the 3-0 lead.
Unacceptable Doc🤨✌️
Sorry but Juggernauts hoist trophies and get parades, something the Dodgers know nothing about.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
how do u have happymusic thru this?!
Was anyone else thrown off by the pics of Josh Gibson and the Homestead Grays when he was talking about the Brooklyn Grays?
Or the claim that Brooklyn won World Series in the 1800s?
Dave Roberts & LA Dodgers are the biggest chokers ever! Outside of the 2020 Covid Season they still can't win it all before 20' & after 20' you win 100 plus games every year numerous times and the Choketober hits like Clockwork 😂 I love it! The MLB & Dodger Haters all know what is going to happen when every October hits every year 😂😂😂
I'm a die hard Dodger fan, and I can say for certain there was some other worldly stuff going on in the 2021 playoffs. 2022 was just stupid on our end, but 2021 had some WEIRD vibes.
After the Dodgers beat the Giants, it's like they took us down with them, cause I can safely say I've never seen a more zombified team ever. The Braves were MUCH better than their record showed, but the Dodgers played with absolutely no life. The entire roster was like half of what they normally were. They all seemed exhausted, like their soul was sucked from them.
This is me just making excuses obviously, but a clash of that magnitude in the previous series just seemed to knock the life out of them. Maybe it was a curse of that terrible check swing call that ended game 5 in SF, or maybe they just sucked. Either way, I'll always remember that series as one of the strangest sudden collapses ever.
Dave Roberts has a history of making bad calls with his bullpen. Go back to 2017, when he kept going back to jansen even though the Astros had his number. Then 2019 when he brought Kershaw into the 5th game of the NLDS against Washington. He got out of the 6th by inducing a double-play grounder. Great so far, right? Then he let Kershaw stay in for the 7th to face Juan Soto even though Adam Kolarek had been brought in for the espress pirpose of pitching to tough lefty hitters, and he'd made Soto look bad every time he had faced him. So, Kershaw promptly gives up a homer to bring the Nats within 1 run. Then, somehow, Roberts left Kershaw in to face Anthony Rendon, even though Kenta Maeda was available. What happened? Kershaw gave up a homer to Rendon, tying the game. The Dodgers lost that game in extra innings.
So you’re telling me we haven’t been winning cuz of the manager all these years?!?!?!
Thanks for not re-signing belli!!! If he crushes it at this rate all season long then the sky is the limit.
Sometimes, Dave Roberts (and other managers as well, but we'll focus on Dave Roberts here) can't get out of his own way. Just manage the game the same way that he did in the regular season, and the results are more likely to be the same. Why change that approach for the postseason?
Southern California mentality
No one chokes better than the Dodgers, no one!
The Bluejays
@@Walgreens27richmond blue jays have not been a powerhouse like the dodgers for the last decade. They’ve definitely choked more
Roberts*
Toronto Maple Leafs, Packers
The Chargers LMAO
Dodgers will choke again this postseason and the braves too
Bank on that again
Wish granted
@kevind3619 I knew it I could see it coming miles ahead
@@megadriver23 who’s winning the superbowl?!
The Dodgers post season jinx.
If Shohei Ohtani wants a guaranteed appearance in the playoffs, he should sign with LA...
If he wants to win a championship, he should sign with literally anyone else...
Yo Dodgers, you scoop up all the best free agents available, every year... you are on the receiving end of some of the most lopsided bullshit in the history of baseball trades ever (ie. Mookie Betts traded for a handful of peanuts... Freddie Freeman's agent NOT doing his job and telling his client that the team he WANTED to sign with made an offer... trading for Max Scherzer and having the Nats throw in Turner for nothing) and yet you STILL choke in the playoffs...
Maybe... pfft... I don't know... try something different?
Oh... and stop blaming the coach. You've gone through like THREE head coaches in the past fifteen years, and you choked with all of them. Dave Roberts is the only one who led you to the World Series... and I guess sort of won one (a Mickey Mouse ring)...
It's not the coaching... it's the culture...
The 2001 Mariners were not the same team when play resumed after the Sept. 11 attacks. The Dodgers last two upsets were a whole stratosphere worse.
They don’t beat us in 2020 if it wasn’t for Kevin Cash showing high school incompetence & taking Snell out. That’s the only reason they beat us, literally
excuses
I think you may be right, and at the time I thought the only other manager who would make such a dumb move is Dave Roberts. So it was kind of ironic.
@@scott3248 tell me about it bro smh
An all black Brooklyn Grays team played an all white Louisville team in a World Series in the 1800s???? Am I missing something????????
Dodgers cheated in 2017 and still lost. That’s embarrassing
lol Dodgers choked game 7 at home vs Houston. Advanced stat from baseball prospectus and SABR writer Robert Arthur, and also a study from Duke show that the sign stealing handicapped the Astros. Lol probably what that series went 7.
The Astros also won game 2 in LA. Besides it was proven it wasn't used in the playoffs anyway. Because it handicapped them like you said.
Pretty sure it's the "Superb-as" not the "Super-bas"
Nothing better than seeing teams spend huge and fail because that's just not how baseball works. Having great players certainly helps tip things in your favor but by no means does it guarantee anything. Not to mention that Dave Roberts just doesn't manage this team, the decisions "he" makes are just whatever the analytics tell them to do at the time. There's a reason he still has a job despite all of the failure. It's the same thing as Steve Kerr, you don't need people to manage these teams in the regular season, the players are good enough to win.
WAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! You should have had a warning label for this video about it containing choking hazards.
What’s more impressive: having 100+ wins in a season or winning 3-4 games when it really matters? Year in and year out having the best record with only a shallow debatable WS championship to show for it that looks even more hollow as time goes on. Nobody’s gonna care about the regular season wins, nobody’s gonna care about all the division titles, nobody’s gonna care about all the diamond-studded talent. At this stage, they’re being remembered for failing when it matters. Spending literal B-B-B-B-B-BILLIONS on the high end talent and they still can’t close the deal. I’m glad we’ll see Dave Roberts some more so he can produce more postseason meltdowns. The playoff chokings are so spectacular, they outta be displayed in the Louvre. This latest epic failure to the Padres was more delicious than freshly baked home made cookies. Yeah, they can go ahead and throw their 111-win season parade, I’m sure it’ll be lovely.
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Rendon and Soto back-to-back in 2019 (on consecutive pitches, even), not a 2-run single.
Dave Roberts needs to go down as one of the worst managers ever look at what he’s done with the best team in baseball for the past 6 years. One ring in a 60 game season playing the World Series in Texas?? Dodgers should have won 3 rings in the last half decade atleast.
2020 should not count I wouldn’t even 100% accept it if it was my team. 2017 Dave could have replaced Yu Darvish like 2014 Bruce replacing Tim Hudson.
Established Titles sponsorship did not age well lol but good vid 👍
The video mischaracterizes Dave Roberts' approach to the bullpen in 2022, and by implication, 2019. They suggest that Roberts employed a closer-by-committee and used his best reliever as a fireman. In fact, his whole managerial career, Dave Roberts has used a conventional closer strategy, having a designated closer he uses in the 9th, regardless of the situation. For almost his entire career, Kenley Jansen has been Roberts' closer for good or for ill, except when he was hurt. Even blowing 8 saves in 2018 did not cost Jansen the job or steer Roberts to having another reliever as his fireman. In general, Roberts used the third best guy as his fireman prior to the 8th inning, while, especially late in the year, once everyone has established a track record for the season, using Jansen as the closer and the best other reliever as his set-up man.
In 2022, with Jansen having departed in free agency, the Dodgers traded for Craig Kimbrel and he was used as Jansen had been, with markedly little success, blowing 5 saves in only 27 opportunities, and losing 7 games. The sheer futility of Kimbrel forced Roberts to abandon him and announce he would be using a closer by committee, as well as leave Kimbrel off the post-season roster. Without a formal closer like Jansen or Kimbrel, Roberts simply inserted Phillips, the best reliever on the staff, into that slot in his mindset. Roberts did not employ Jansen as a fireman in 2019 against Washington for the simple reason that he had never done so and never would. At most, he might bring in Jansen in the 8th to try for a 4 or 5 run save, but Jansen was locked in to finish any close game the Dodgers played, regardless of who was due up and when for all of Roberts' managerial career.
there is no curse but an inept manager who forgets how to manage in playoff time only when he realizes that is a different animal The Dodgers may win postseason games, and by the way I don't count the 2020 half season WS win!
Dodgers are the best worst team or the worst best team...I can't decide. And the disappointment in the team goes way back. They only won a single championship in Brooklyn, remember.
as an astros fan i hope the dodgers get to the world series in 23 because my astros will be there and after winning it all i still want to kick l.a.'s ass so those cholo hip-hop gangbangers can stop crying about 2017!!
Sounds like the issue is Dave Roberts lmao
The Grays were a Negro League team, as evidenced by the picture you used.
The only time we won anything is when we played another team with a manager dumber than Dave Roberts. He doesn’t understand pitching, never has. He put in darvish in game 7 in 2017 instead of wood who was lights out. He put in Kershaw in game 5 against the nationals. We all know how kershaw is in the playoffs especially at that time. Time and time again Roberts puts the wrong player, in the wrong spots, at the worst times. He’s incompetent as a manager and should’ve been fired years ago. The problem with this team for two decades has been our managers. We have the players, we’ve never lacked championship quality talent. We just never played as a team and didn’t have the right manager to establish a “team” culture in the locker room. When the padres beat us, the Padres were a TEAM. We were a bunch of diva wide receivers playing for themselves. The lack of a culture and a good manger have been this team’s downfall and it hurts. It’s like falling in love with a damn stripper.
The Dodgers deserve it. They cheated the same way and got away with it. Don't be so dramatic, every team was doing it. Maybe educate yourself ffs.
Souza:
“I hear you but if you only knew how many teams were doing it you wouldn’t be as mad at Jose Altuve,” Souza said in response to a Seattle Mariners fan.
Joey Votto:
"Yeah, yeah, there's no question about it," Votto said. "The idea that they (the Astros) were the only one doing something wrong just baffles me."
Chris Sale:
“I don’t know, man, Here’s the thing, and I’m going to give you my honest opinion: If the Astros were the only team doing it, then yeah. Give it back. Take it back. I know for a fact they weren’t,” said Sale on WEEI Monday morning. “All these people pointing fingers, well, hey, take a check in the mirror real quick. Make sure you and your team weren’t doing something.”
Kris Bryant:
USA Today's Bob Nightengale asked Bryant a point-blank question on the topic during a lengthy interview published on Thursday.
"No," Bryant responded. "Absolutely not. I definitely think others were. I don't know if other teams were doing it that same way, but people are always trying to find a way for that competitive advantage. Pitchers have things in their gloves. Batters groove their bats. People have done that since the beginning of the game."
Chris Bassitt:
“I think it’s a bigger media story than player story, honestly,” Chris Bassitt told Danielle Learner of the Houston Chronicle at the ’21 All-Star Game. “It wasn’t just the Astros. So it is what it is. Obviously, I have teammates who played with them. I know how good of people those guys are. They were stuck in a bad situation. So yeah, I think it’s a massive media thing, but from a player standpoint, I think a lot of people are kinda over it.”
Bassitt stated that the Astros were not the only team “doing stuff” to advance their play in that last couple years. The hurler explained how illegal sign-stealing has been an issue league wide as well.
Oakland A’s pitcher Chris Bassitt called the Astros the “guinea pig” to clean up sign-stealing in MLB.
Bassitt mentioned that the reason not a lot of players and teams were speaking out at the time was because they were conducting similar methods of cheating. The right-hander also said that MLB knew about sign-stealing in baseball and elected to keep quiet about it.
Miggy:
“That’s bulls-,” the longtime Detroit Tigers slugger and shoo-in Hall of Famer told ESPN in a rare sit-down interview. “I don’t care about that.”
Cabrera also added that he believes that you still need tremendous talent to win a World Series as hitting is much more than knowing the next pitch.
“In the end…it’s baseball,” said Cabrera, “[Try to] go ahead and do it like those guys did.
Erik Kratz:
And I can also tell you, because I don’t really care, I don’t know anybody over there, the Colorado Rockies were doing the exact same thing in 2018, and we caught them, and we played them in the playoffs. You know how many runs they scored in a three-game playoff series in 2018? Not many people watched the NLDS. They scored two runs in the ninth inning of Game 2. They used to take a Theragun and bang it on their metal bench. And they were doing the exact same thing, from the TV.
Logan Morrison:
"I know from first hand accounts that the Yankees, Dodgers, Astros, and Red Sox all have used film to pick signs," he wrote, per NJ Advance Media's Brendan Kuty. "Just want you guys to know the truth. I personally think it's a tool in a tool belt to pick signs, but if we are going to be punishing people for it. Don't half ass it."
They had to use the Astros as the scapegoat since they won and because they weren’t one of the big market babies (Yankees and dodgers). It makes sense tho cause if one of their babies go down, they will lose a lot of revenue
People seem to never want to talk about that
There’s a lot of dumbass ignorant fans out there who just really hate the Astros without knowing the truth. Stuff like this is why I despise the media.
the curse is just dave roberts and head manager
Short-series playoffs are a crapshoot. Look, I'm a Giants fan. I HATE the Dodgers with a flaming passion. When I feel down I pull out my book "The Miracle at Coogan's Bluff" and read about the Dodgers blowing a 13 1/2 game lead and then a 4-1 lead in the ninth inning of the deciding game 3.
That being said, I recognize excellence when I see it. For the past decade and a half the Dodgers have been the most consistently excellent team in baseball. Yes, they only have one World Series win to show for it, but that's life. The Braves had a 15 year stretch of dominance too and only won the one title in '95 during it. The playoffs are about which team can get hot for a month. And a team can get hot for two weeks and knock out a favorite, then drop back to being mediocre.
For those fans wanting Roberts fired, it’s obvious that he’s doing exactly what management wants. Why do so many of y’all assume that management wants what fans want? Maybe they have figured out that they make more money in getting to the playoffs than in winning the playoffs?
very bad editing. The footages shown are never consistant with the narration, making it very hard to follow the story.
It is actually better to just have the narration and Clayton Kershaw face without showing any footage. That way at least it is easier to follow the story.
Anyone but Dave is the manager and the dodgers have 3-4 WS wins
Love how you made sure to note the Astros' cheating scandal and conveniently leave out the Red Sox cheating in 2018
And the fact that the Astros never use the sign-stealing tactic in the playoffs.
dodgers fans find any way to make an excuse for their team always choking
@Clynicxl fans in general always find a way to make excuses for their teams choking, 2020 further proves my point...
@@manzac112 nope they did
@@Logan-ml1fw It was proven that they never did. They stopped it when they were caught by the White Sox in July of that season.
I love Dave Roberts as a person but as a manager especially in the post season he's just terrible. I hate to say it but the Dodgers need to fire him.
Nope, he's not the issues
Dodgers choke yet again, NLDS was so cool, loved it.
4:57 You are showing videos of the Negro League's Homestead Grays in Washington, not the Dodgers prior team. Come on, man. Do some research.
LA’s payroll was worlds apart from anyone but the Yankees? The Red Sox took over the highest payroll during that span, and the Dpdgers were the highest many of those years.. today’s Yankees are NOT the yanks of the 90’s/2000’s.. biggest free agent signing every year, they are finally building through their farm system, which they always have, but now it’s the priority instead of an addition to the signings.