Guillows Zero RC Conversion Success
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2024
- Guillows Zero RC Conversion Success
Join me is this video as I convert a Guillows Zero RC conversion with a more powerful electric motor and RC electronics. And see that after the test flights, the model is now has plenty of power and flies very well with ailerons in place of a rudder.
I have done five Guillows RC conversions to date. I have had great success with the ParkZone line of micro electronics, but these units are best suited for Guillows models weighing under 3.0 ounces. The original Zero came in at 3.7 ounces, just a bit too heavy for the micro electric motor.
The Guillows Zero build is straightforward with no surprises. The video will cover the wing, fuselage and tail surfaces as well as lightening techniques. The model is covered by with Parklite iron on covering.
The rudder did not provide enough control force to keep the wings level, thus the decision to add strip ailerons for the final Guillows Zero version. The ailerons worked just fine, and I think I would make them a big larger on a future build of this model.
Here is a link to my RUclips Channel:
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Many thanks in advance for a post of this video on Facebook, it truly helps the channel a lot!
Regards,
Tim
Original Zero with ParkZone electronics:
• Guillows Zero RC Conve...
Guillow Zero components:
Suppo A1504 brushless motor (www.AltitudeHobbies.com)
Hitec HS40 servos
Castle Talon 15 ESC
Spektrum AR410 receiver
ThunderPower 2 cell lipo 325 battery
Chapters
00:00 - Intro
00:54 - Modification overview
02:55 - Failed initial flights
04:39 - New RC electronics and motor
06:00 - Install new components
12:55 - Ailerons installation
16:15 - Successful test flights
17:52 - Closing thoughts
Thanks Tim, I have all of this series of Guillows models. This is just the info I need to convert them. You've done us a great favour with this experiment. Great channel !
Doug: Glad to help! Tim
Tim I would like to thank your " camera crew". She does very good camera work. I also think she is very patient and brave. Keep up the enjoyable videos.
Arthur: Hey, thanks for checking in and your comments on my channel. My lovely wife does a great job with the iPhone 12 and filming, could not have this channel without her! And, she is most brave with me at the transmitter controls. 😁 Tim
Congratulations, Tim. It's good to see you got it going.
MH: Thanks 👍 Tim
Superb ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️👍.😊👌
Thanks 🤗 Tim
Washout is a good idea Tim - most full size aircraft have it too. In fact, if you look at an F15 or other modern jet, the washout is very, very apparent.
Great point, thanks! Tim
Flys good looks good.
Planker: Thanks for checking in! Tim
Flies beautifully and looks great!
Steve: Many thanks! Tim
Great Job Tim. This video inspires me to go for my third Guillow's R/C conversion. My first two were Flyboy and Super Cub 95 20", both powered with brushed motors.
Good luck with your conversions! Tim
Nicely done Tim., well done on your modifications. Looks like another success :-)
FSM: Thanks 👍 Tim
Thanks Tim! I have the same kit sitting on my build table and wondered what the right combo might be for it.. I have a 1800kv motor from a mini quad (SunnySky I think) Iw as going to use and I think based on your trials here it will likely be just right. :) Thanks for sharing! I enjoy watching your videos, it's almost like therapy. Haha! Happy new year!
Marc: Good luck with your build! Tim
Great job, Tim. I used to slightly extend the nose on planes like this to get the balance right without having to add weight to the nose. Done with discretion, it's virtually unnoticeable. This is also a common fix for tail-heavy full-size aircraft designs. Also, with minimal dihedral, ailerons are always necessary for good lateral cotrol as rudder control only will not produce sufficient roll.
G-Man: Thanks for the info! Tim
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Hi, good work. Greatfull.
Keep Safe
Thanks, you too!
Hi Tim. on the two recent conversions i've watched (This build and on the Corsair) I noted the weight differences you pointed out with the leading edges and wondered if this may of been a design feature for the elastic band powered build.?
Mainly due to counteract the stronger torque produced by the elastic propellers greater pitch they usually have.?
Keep the builds coming they're great and the models look fantastic.!
Reminds me so much of what my Dad would get up to in his shed.
I doubt you'd be bonkers enough to build a full size Gyro copter glider from aluminium scaffolding poles and a car wheel hub anytime soon though. LOL.
Cheers. :)
Electrodoc: Not sure I can add much to the leadiing edge issues with each build. The Zero Guillows model is a lot smaller than the "Giant Scale" Hellcat, some changes in the methods of construction. And no full size gyrocopters for me!! Tim
Very cool.
DS: Thanks! Tim
Great job Tim, really enjoy your channel, I’ve learned a lot. I’m almost through with my Lancer conversion. Been a lot of stuff I’ve never done!🤪 Being a “newbie “ has lots of “learning “ opportunities ...... but it’s been fun. Keep up the good work you do.
Danny: Great to hear! Tim
Not sure if you guys cares but if you're bored like me atm you can stream pretty much all the new series on instaflixxer. Been watching with my gf for the last couple of weeks :)
@Julien Keegan definitely, I have been watching on instaflixxer for months myself :)
Sir Tim, good morning and I hope this comment reaching in good health. Thank you for all the video tutorials regarding the RC conversion of Guillows wood/balsa planes. I just received an earlier version of the Guillows World War 2 Mitsubishi Zero flying multi-purpose model kit, designed for both rubber band and RC. I am seriously thinking of converting this to a remote control plane and would like to seek your help in buying the correct RC parts. I live in the Philippines and we don't have much stores to buy them except for online shopping services like Shopee Phil. or Ebay. Can you kindly give me a really detailed list of the RC parts you used for the successfull conversion of your Zero plane? I'm retiring (60 years old) in December 2022 and will start buying the parts to start the kit and give myself a fun Christmas gift. 🤣🤣🤣
Roberto: Check out my video on where to buy micro electronics in 2022. Good luck with your Zero build! Tim
Inspiring
WC: Thanks! Tim
Hi Tim why don't you build a Guillow's 200 series kit for your channel ? It would help me a lot, you see I got lucky on e-bay and now have the 201, 203, and 204 kits. These have short noses so you'll need to refer back to your notes on your Zero build, Look forward to your next video!
David: I love the WWI bipes, but with the Guillows method of construction there are just too fragile for day to day operations. Top wing hard to keep on right as well as the landing gear. Best of luck with yours! Tim
Hi Tim, do you think it would be possible to use the balsa plans for the guillows Zero to foam board based Zero? Love all your warbird conversions btw!
AA: Absolutely, give it a try! Tim
Just out of curiosity: why don't they make a gearbox for outrunners just like they did to the brushed motors so we can run these little guys with less speed. With the outrunner, even with low kV, they go extremely fast with an 8x4 prop. Any thoughts are welcome. Good job :-))
WS: Wish I had a good answer for a good question! Seems like there are very few micro motors out there. Tim
Tim what about the guts of a umx timber plane
TG: Wow, I did not even know the UMX Timber existed, looks like a nice bird. Guts could well wortk in the Zero. Keep in mind the Guillow kits are fragile, so need to keep everything, to include components, as light as possible. Tim
I really enjoy what you do! Please keep it up! I don't understand why you invest so much time in building a 3 channel underpowered airplane when it's so simple to do it correctly or at least scale with proper ailerons, possibly flaps, and definitely more power. Why build something with limited performance when cost and manufacturing are not a factor?
J Huff: I like my models to be as lightweight as possible, plus I like to experiment and have some fun. The ParkZone electronics was a test, and I now know a bit more power for the WW2 fighters is in order. I am familiar with normal ailerons (see my Hellcat build), but wanted a quick fix for the Zero, and the strip ailerons were ideal for this. All good! Tim
@@TimMcKay56 Would you like to do a Guillows Spitfire 27 1/2 conversion video? I would like to donate the Spitfire balsa kit and a new in box Eflight UMX Pitts BNF AS3X. Let me know if you are interested. Have a Great day Tim!
J Huff: I’d be happy to give your Spitfire a try! Please send me an email (under “About” on RUclips channel home page) and I can provide my mailing address. Tim
@@TimMcKay56 Fantastic! I will get you my email, Cheers Tim!
do you people sell this on amazon ?? if it do i buy it
RC-V: Amazon sells many of the Guillow kits, just do a search. I buy all of my Guillow kits via Amazon. Tim
Hello Tim, I just watched a 16 part video by some English men. Who built a kit #203 (Newport). He used a lot of carbon fiber rod in the build, really thin stuff maybe 1/16th. He hasn't flown it yet, I guess I'll have to weight to see how successful he was. I've never worked with carbon fiber. Is it Ca glued together or do you have to use an epoxy to join it?
David: Yes, carbon rods would be a big help with both strength and saving weight. You can use epoxy for sure (fills gaps well), and if CA use a thicker, gap filling type and do a few test glue joints. Tim
Pretty sure you could of extend the nose some probably would of helped with the CG
PB: You are correct, and I do this a lot with my foam board models. Tim
I have a Javelin that is dying for this treatment
WC: Good luck with this project! Tim
You fly it like it's on a rail.. Like any good zero should fly
Mike: Many thanks, the Zero was a lot of fun to get into the air! Tim
I am currently working on a dumas kit 308. 30 inch Storch. Any experience with the Dumas kits?
OTW: I have not built a Dumas kit, but from pictures I have seen, the balsa construction is about the same as the Guillows kits. Tim
In my experience converting balsa gliders to R/C over the last 20 years the #1 Most Important aspect is the CG, use the electronics to balance your aircraft without adding ANY ballast. #2 Power Go Big! No need to add useless weight to the nose when you can use the motor and battery to get the same result with the benefit of power over dead weight. In your application or any balsa conversion of that size, the UMX Turbo Timber electronics set up is perfect. #3 Build the wing in one piece and use clear plastic for the control surfaces.
Tim, what covering did you use on the zero?
Parklite iron on covering, Horizon Hobby.
@@TimMcKay56 Thanks. Just what I need to cover my Jr Falcon.
what is the guage or mm of the servo wire and what metal, thanks
Frank: Not sure, really. Servo wire has three items (signal, power and ground). All very low power, this smaller wire for regular servos. Tim
@@TimMcKay56 sorry i meant to say control horn wire
Frank: I use the lightest music wire that I can for the Guillow's models, to save weight. As I have "stash" of various sizes of music wire, not sure of the exact size. But the music wire, if properly supported to it cannot flew, can be quite small and still work. I use the fuselage formers to support the wire out to the tail surfaces, seems to work OK. Tim
@@frankgordonsmith4795 The wire in Guillows 900 series kits is .035. In the zero kit he has it's .047. Both are for the landing gear. Not sure if this helps, but there it is.
Still seems pretty underpowered - needs smallish 3s pack and a motor that's about 1500kV, and a prop that's about 1" bigger. You need a wattmeter. I'd say 150 - 200 watts would make that bird fly with plenty of excess power. I expect you'd double your powertrain weight but that might be OK - you certainly have enough chord and span to generate the lift you'd need.
WB: Roger that, more power means a faster flyer. 😬 I was quite close to putting in a larger motor, but wanted to get a data point on this particular motor. Zero actually flies well, I was at around half throttle. im
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