The Best Emulation We've Ever Seen On An An Arm CPU! M2 Mac Mini Is An EMU Powerhouse

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  • Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024

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  • @ETAPRIME
    @ETAPRIME  Год назад +216

    Pc gaming video coming up, what else do you want to see running on the new Mac mini M2 Pro?

    • @jamiekendallanimation
      @jamiekendallanimation Год назад +9

      Apex Legends and Rocket league - if their cheat systems aren't making issues! THPS1+2 if possible as well.

    • @Just_An_Ignacio
      @Just_An_Ignacio Год назад +8

      I remember RE8 has a Metal version, would be awesome to see the true horse power of the M2 Pro compared to Windows gaming PCs when something is really optimized to MacOS.

    • @khaledgaming315
      @khaledgaming315 Год назад +4

      why you do not use ryjuinx on m2 ? I Am Asking because it released on arm m1 macbooks

    • @ShibaTTM
      @ShibaTTM Год назад +3

      Fighting Games. MK11, Tekken 7, Injustice 2 and etc.

    • @dylan_00
      @dylan_00 Год назад +4

      Definitely consider installing Asahi Linux, since there is now GPU support (albeit a bit limited currently). With Asahi Linux and box64, you could run all your games under Proton!

  • @felixandy
    @felixandy Год назад +1181

    Please add “Pro” to the video title. I came here with my hopes up for a $600 emulation machine I could use for work and was disappointed it was the more expensive Pro version. I feel like most people looking for this use case would want a review on the more affordable base model.

    • @HotelMarioFan878
      @HotelMarioFan878 Год назад +64

      while i agree, i can say from experience that i tested at least half of what's playable up to PS3 (i tried like ten playable games, including Red Dead Redemption, just expect to not find any game-specific PS3 crash patches for Mac) on my base M1 Mac Mini and it's all been playable so i'm sure you could be fine as long as you don't mind not doing upscaling on PS3 and not going 4k in demanding PS2 games and GameCube games (i could only do 1080p on Burnout 3 in AetherSX2). you can also do Switch emulators now since they got ported to Mac. M1 is fairly capable!

    • @modestyblaise4167
      @modestyblaise4167 Год назад +79

      @@HotelMarioFan878 @Andrew Felix is correct though. The title says m2 but it’s a m2 Pro. There is a performance difference and quite a price difference too. I also have a M1 and it’s amazing for what it is but the m2 (pro and non-pro) does have a significantly better GPU. The title needs to say Pro.

    • @Emuland69
      @Emuland69 Год назад +94

      Eta prime likes to leave out details to sucker in viewers. He does this all the time.

    • @kevindie
      @kevindie Год назад +26

      *_Base M2 will work just fine._*

    • @pitor87
      @pitor87 Год назад +8

      @@Emuland69 and we got sucked in, Back Here Again 😅

  • @RichardServello
    @RichardServello Год назад +79

    I got the M2 Pro and damn is it impressive! Been SO happy with it. First Mac in over a decade.

    • @dmitrijs7642
      @dmitrijs7642 Год назад +1

      Same! My first mac was MB Pro 2020 Intel.. piece of crap for 3000€ and biggest mistake in my life😅 now I’m so happy with M2 Pro!

    • @badrsaaidi8108
      @badrsaaidi8108 Год назад +1

      @@dmitrijs7642 u can get better performance with i9 13900hx at half the price 😋

    • @kv6639
      @kv6639 Год назад +7

      @@badrsaaidi8108 About the same performance but battery life will be atrocious and it will be a literal heating pad on your lap 😂

    • @CollynPlayz
      @CollynPlayz Год назад +1

      @@badrsaaidi8108 don’t get a Intel Mac anymore they are worthless in a few years

    • @TheHannukahZombie
      @TheHannukahZombie Год назад +1

      @@badrsaaidi8108 unplug it from the wall and run the same on both computers and see who wins. Hint: the high power laptop that run windows are CRIPPLED when not plugged into a wall. The Macs don't even break a sweat.

  • @kntwrk1336
    @kntwrk1336 Год назад +240

    You should really do a separate review on the non-pro model since there is a huge price point difference and most likely performance difference.

    • @VinnytotheK
      @VinnytotheK Год назад +3

      Agreed!

    • @clubmusictv
      @clubmusictv Год назад +3

      agreed - most wont have this

    • @evanneff7776
      @evanneff7776 Год назад +8

      Agreed. I'm always confused when creators will only feature the high-end models that a much smaller percent of Mini owners will have.

    • @queotzcatl3980
      @queotzcatl3980 Месяц назад

      Agree

  • @beardymcbeardface69
    @beardymcbeardface69 Год назад +335

    A RISC architecture _(AArch64),_ emulating a CISC architecture _(x86/x64_ _via_ _Rosetta),_ emulating some RISC architectures _(game_ _platform_ _emulator_ _for_ _MIPS64_ _or_ _PowerPC_ _for_ _example)._ And still performance is amazing.
    These Apple ARM chips are incredible.

    • @thewiirocks
      @thewiirocks Год назад +29

      FWIW, x86 effectively emulates RISC through the use of Microcode instructions. i.e. The CISC instructions are decoded into smaller pipeline instructions for the CPU cores to process. The more compact CISC instructions help with cache but are otherwise somewhat irrelevant. Differences in the process design like write order are more important to performance. Apple implemented modes to make their processor behave like the x86 so that they can bypass trying to emulate these performance killers. That’s why Rosetta 2 is so bloody fast.

    • @crewmaster6014
      @crewmaster6014 Год назад +25

      There isn't any CISC emulation in it. Even Apple doesn't call Rosetta an Emulator. It's also technically wrong since it doesn't emulate a system it just translates instructions. Otherwise there wouldn't be such a good performance.

    • @IMAN7THRYLOS
      @IMAN7THRYLOS Год назад +15

      The terms CISC/RISC are almost deprecated as CPU manufacturers have borrowed concepts from both these approaches. Intel for example has adopted many such RSIC concepts into their CPUs. If you want to think of a pure CISC CPU, think the Motorola 680x00 series that was used by Amiga/Atari/Sega and many others 40-30 years ago.

    • @rrsharizam
      @rrsharizam Год назад +6

      Modern x86 cpu contain RISC cores that emulate CISC architecture

    • @samic
      @samic Год назад +9

      Wow... people still think x86 is CISC in 2023?!

  • @PandaMoniumHUN
    @PandaMoniumHUN Год назад +68

    Man, my M2 Mac Mini is going to be delivered tomorrow, talk about perfect timing. So hyped.
    Edit: Just realized you tested the Pro version. Might be worth mentioning in the title. Hyped nevertheless, hopefully the 10c GPU on the base model is still good enough.

    • @UltraJamZHD
      @UltraJamZHD Год назад +12

      Update us bro ?

    • @turbojobo
      @turbojobo Год назад +4

      @@UltraJamZHD On the m1 running dolphin was a breeze now with my base m2 it runs anything on 2k. I have not tested 4k since macs dont come with 4k displays

    • @UltraJamZHD
      @UltraJamZHD Год назад

      @@turbojobo do you have the base M2?

    • @turbojobo
      @turbojobo Год назад +2

      @@UltraJamZHD Yes I do. Macbook Air M2 :) I used to have the M1 pro 14'' But prefer the air honestly.

  • @davidbanner9001
    @davidbanner9001 Год назад +15

    I really like the OpenEmu controller section. That's a real nice feature. That M2 chip is looking really good.

  • @aleksoctop
    @aleksoctop Год назад +7

    To get CEMU working again, just go and manually delete shader cache in your user’s Application Support folder

  • @mcirone
    @mcirone Год назад +51

    Do you plan on testing the base model? M2 (not M2 Pro) - 8gb ram. Students can pick these up for only $500 on the Apple site

    • @ETAPRIME
      @ETAPRIME  Год назад +66

      This is the only one I have access to right now, it’s actually my wife’s new work pc. I could pick up the base this weekend and do some testing

    • @telostia
      @telostia Год назад +2

      Someone already tested this. Poor performance when emulating ps3, everything else is fine

    • @raulecreuset3059
      @raulecreuset3059 Год назад

      I advise everyone to take 24 gb ram appel to tend to make their new bone very quickly greedy since big sur

    • @RafaelMihai
      @RafaelMihai Год назад +2

      @@ETAPRIME please try switch emulation like botw and mario Odyssee on Standard M2

  • @richardsinclair7661
    @richardsinclair7661 Год назад +5

    It's still nutty to me how much detail they crammed into Chains of Olympus. That game looks superb when it's upscaled.

  • @WilliamFrota
    @WilliamFrota Год назад +176

    I know the pro has a better GPU but I really wish you had tested the base version of the M2 Mac Mini 8G 256G. I think it would be a great match compared to the SFF computers you test on your channel.

    • @mvrck-pb5pk
      @mvrck-pb5pk Год назад +3

      +1 = 100% agree that it's a missed opportunity for many (non) Apple users. A 2nd video would be much appreciated by many. Thanks in advance! Cheers

    • @VinnytotheK
      @VinnytotheK Год назад +6

      Idk why he didn't put "Pro" in the title...

    • @tendosingh5682
      @tendosingh5682 Год назад +5

      @@VinnytotheK To bait more users. Pro would have put off those who know the cost.

  • @dkorati
    @dkorati Год назад +8

    Ryujinx (Switch emulator) runs natively on Apple Silicon and e.g. Metroid Dread runs perfect even on the base M1 chip. ;-)

  • @LONELY-x9k
    @LONELY-x9k Год назад +25

    By the way Demon souls has a 60 fps patch on rpcs3 and its really easy to install and use. And also Demon souls by default uses Frame duplication which can show in the fps counter as a constant 30fps but choppy gameplay (the 60 fps patch disables that and the frame limit)

  • @valrond
    @valrond Год назад +9

    I just checked the price on this M2 Pro. 1569€. That better be an emulation machine for that price.

    • @darkambience
      @darkambience Год назад +2

      yeah this video is entirely stupid, its a Arm but lets ignore the price and the fact that its magnitudes higher than an X86

    • @Adam-vx6to
      @Adam-vx6to Год назад +1

      M2 base model performs very simmilar and is 599

  • @raphaelattias
    @raphaelattias Год назад +8

    Would have loved to see the performance of Ryujinx on that Mac, specially since they released a version a few months ago!

  • @vladmihai306
    @vladmihai306 Год назад +2

    that shared, super high speed memory of these apple chips really help with these emulators. i think one of the biggest bottlenecks of the emulators are moving data fast enough between ram/cpu/gpu and the m2 chips have a big advantage on this front compared to normal chips.

  • @RifterDask
    @RifterDask Год назад +17

    8x resolution on PS2 is an absolute game changer, holy wow.

  • @getdrinking
    @getdrinking Год назад +58

    very powerful but also very expensive. i would have liked to have seen an emulation test of the cheaper m2 mac mini ($499/$599) to see what that can do.

    • @hia5235
      @hia5235 Год назад +3

      Almost exactly the same.

    • @cperception
      @cperception Год назад +1

      @Garrus Vakarian what

    • @buda3d2007
      @buda3d2007 Год назад +1

      @Garrus Vakarian $2000 in Australian dollerydoos

    • @JeanSamyr
      @JeanSamyr Год назад +1

      @@garrusvakarian8709 they didn’t had a mini M1Pro.

    • @ZhuJo99
      @ZhuJo99 Год назад

      @@JeanSamyr they had, on Macbook Pro but not on the mini :)

  • @BrianJones-wk8cx
    @BrianJones-wk8cx Год назад +25

    Honestly, this is the M2 review material that I’ve been waiting for.

    • @TheFyend
      @TheFyend Год назад +8

      M2 Pro here though, just keep that in mind.

  • @Ghostviperz
    @Ghostviperz 3 месяца назад

    “I’m usin’ the Vulcan backend”
    We need T-shirt’s 😂

  • @buda3d2007
    @buda3d2007 Год назад +1

    What a beast of a machine and its not even cracking a sweat, its dedfinantly a new benchamark for price performance and form factor, this is the new king

  • @mohamedmostafamohamedmahbo5706
    @mohamedmostafamohamedmahbo5706 Год назад +22

    Raspberry pi on steroids

  • @PDRIFT86
    @PDRIFT86 Год назад +4

    Ooh i been waiting for this!! I'm not an apple fan by any means but the new mini got my interest! Wanted to see your review on it.

  • @hypoluxa
    @hypoluxa Год назад +1

    Your video here is fantastic! I had no idea that these emu's existed for the Mac! Such great memories of these games as a kid!

  • @DanielAbernathy
    @DanielAbernathy Год назад +16

    Would definitely be curious to see the performance of the base model Mac Mini as well!

  • @nightmarewalking
    @nightmarewalking Год назад +3

    At the price point of the M2 Mac Mini, I would certainly expect it to perform emulation well !!! Great video as always. Please keep up the fantastic work.

  • @Walking_bandaid
    @Walking_bandaid Год назад +8

    Honestly with these chip sets I feel like Apple could make a killer handheld similar to the steam deck if they really wanted to. I doubt they would because it would eat into iPad sales and isn’t really a focus of theirs

    • @evshrug
      @evshrug Год назад

      You mean, like an iPad Mini with built-in physical buttons and grips?
      I’d be fine with an iPad if only Apple gave it the same app freedom as macOS! And frankly, Apple products would be considered attractive gaming platforms today IF Apple hadn’t gone pretty hardcore into intentionally ruining their gaming reputation in the late 90’s, trying to control developers and magazine publications to set the narrative that businesses could trust employees to get work done on Mac.

  • @zukessurvival4785
    @zukessurvival4785 Год назад +1

    congrats on 1M subscribers! Been watching your work for a while, and loving it!

  • @EddyGraphic
    @EddyGraphic Год назад +2

    This is the beauty of macOS compared to iOS or tvOS, installing whatever you want is actually possible and easy to do, on iOS you need to deal with the whole having to sign apps every 7 days thing which is a pain, and why the iPad will never replace a Mac for me.

  • @snakecoils529
    @snakecoils529 Год назад +8

    I follow your reviews regularly and I agree that Star Wars Rogue Leader is perfect for testing the Dolphin performance but from what I've seen on my machines (Intel PCs and Macs) the X-Wing raid on Death Star surface is not the most difficult part to emulate, the battle on Hoth with Snow Speeders is more demanding, if you let the demo running for a couple of minutes you will see that the whole scene on the frozen planet is struggling both on music and animation (it is the second cutscene after the approaching of X-Wing storm to the Death Star) so it would be interesting to see if the M2Pro is able to running it smoothly. I am seriously considering it as my next emulation station replacing the Hades Canyon NUC i have in the living room 🙂

  • @budgetking2591
    @budgetking2591 Год назад +1

    crazy how good some of these old games look on higher resolutions

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto Год назад +1

    That’s epic!
    I’m excited to start playing games again.
    How long have you been emulating?

  • @ItsAkile
    @ItsAkile Год назад +2

    Pretty to see Windows alternatives getting better game support Linux/Mac

  • @Ruby_Witch
    @Ruby_Witch Год назад +6

    I think it may still be a little early, but I'd love to see how well emulation works on Asahi Linux now that they have the M2 graphics drivers up and running!

    • @ibleminen
      @ibleminen Год назад +1

      Pretty sure they dont have for the m2 pro and Max yet, bit i am pretty sure Lina is about to get that

    • @ibleminen
      @ibleminen Год назад +2

      Also it’s only the early versions of OpenGL so it won’t really run anything that well. Can’t remember if I saw somebody trying to test a ps1 emulator

    • @helloukw
      @helloukw Год назад

      I really doubt its gonna be better than mac os.

    • @johnhricko8212
      @johnhricko8212 Год назад +1

      (I tend to buy 'old computers') been keeping an eye on Asahi.... I'm sure others will join the "oh my god, these SoCs are amazing!" linux "repurposing" distros...

  • @AndrewsArcade
    @AndrewsArcade Год назад

    Awesome! I remember when you had around 30K Subs, glad to see your channel is doing so well. You provide excellent content.

  • @ennio5763
    @ennio5763 Год назад +4

    M2 Pro is a hell of an expensive NUC. Currently 1300$ !
    In contrast, the "regular" M2 is "only" 600$.
    But is it still a good powerhouse for emulation ?

    • @ekinteko
      @ekinteko Год назад +3

      It's expensive, sure. But a NUC is actually less value for money. You have to put in nearly as much money, to get something larger, hotter, louder, and slower.
      But the point about the Mac Mini is not that.... it's for macOS. Which is a pretty good entry way for most people.

  • @onlyzach1
    @onlyzach1 Год назад +6

    Awesome video, that's impressive. But it is a M2 Pro, wished you did the baseline M2. Can you do that too? Looking forward to the other videos!

  • @erickdavid4257
    @erickdavid4257 Месяц назад

    Ryujinx runs great on my M1 Mac mini!
    I’m excited for more emulators taking advantage of ARM and Metal on the platform.

  • @xaytana
    @xaytana Год назад +1

    I wish the rest of the industry would take PC on ARM seriously. Mobile chip manufacturers won't step up their product line, and the x86 group won't develop an ARM chip that isn't meant for enterprise servers. Apple has a literal monopoly here, they're the only ones filling the desktop/laptop space. Sure, ARM probably won't be workstation-grade for quite some time, and there needs to be a massive shift from x86 to ARM (though most legacy software can run fine through a transcription layer like Rosetta 2), but it'd be nice for everyone else to catch up. I have a feeling the Apple situation is the typical, overpriced hardware for the performance offered, so if the rest of the industry would actually catch up, since they're already a few generations behind at the earliest, I have a feeling we could have some pretty powerful ARM PCs. Plus ARM is just overall beneficial for any mobile device, laptops, tablets, and handhelds, due to better performance efficiency.
    If there's not decently competent competition in a couple years, I'll probably end up buying into Apple's platform due to lack of competition. Letting Apple get so far ahead of the curve was a mistake on the industry's part, given all the issues around Apple as a company, and it's especially disapointing that Qualcomm and Samsung outright refuse to step up their offerings to desktop-level chips, that Nvidia is uninterested in anything outside of ARM systems for AI/ML workloads, and that Intel and AMD are sitting on their asses with x86. Maybe RISC-V or another potential successor will finally be the point that the industry as a whole moves away from x86, considering ARM PCs have been talked about for over a decade now and Microsoft is the only party outside of Apple that has tried getting that ball rolling multiple times.

  • @fayyazb
    @fayyazb Год назад

    This is a really cool overview on the emus for the Mac. Thanks for sharing.

  • @RafaelMihai
    @RafaelMihai Год назад +8

    What about switch emulation ? Botw and Mario Oddysey

  • @tbray
    @tbray Год назад +4

    I think you should have put in the subject line that you're referring to the Pro - there's a big price difference between it and the base M2.

    • @ZhuJo99
      @ZhuJo99 Год назад +1

      Double the price, double the gpu performance and cpu as well.

  • @wickedcaitsith
    @wickedcaitsith Год назад

    Congrats on 1 million subs! Keep up the good work!

  • @JeffBreyer
    @JeffBreyer Год назад +1

    Maybe pick up a used one of these some day. Pretty cool to see how decent the performance is here.

  • @The-Rest-of-Us
    @The-Rest-of-Us Год назад

    While Macs are not upgradable they do last and are supported for a looong time. I got a high end MacBook Pro 5 years ago and it’s still so smooth I don’t think I will be upgrading anytime soon (2.9Ghz i9, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD).

  • @Fernando-Rodriguez
    @Fernando-Rodriguez Год назад +3

    in 5 years when these mac minis hit the second hand market they'll be great for emulation.

    • @RamonGJ
      @RamonGJ Год назад

      They're great for emulation now! :P

    • @Fernando-Rodriguez
      @Fernando-Rodriguez Год назад

      @@RamonGJ their too expensive for emulation, an old office PC with an Intel core i7 plus a low end GPU offers the same experience for a lot cheaper.

    • @jasonnugent963
      @jasonnugent963 Год назад +1

      Asahi Linux should be more robust by then too !!

  • @petwisk2012
    @petwisk2012 Год назад +2

    I was interested until looking at the Price of This thing on Amazon, since i live on Brazil This cost like 3 year job payment tô get

  • @PabstOban
    @PabstOban Год назад

    Gratz on 1m subs. Its been a long ride.

  • @SimplySora_
    @SimplySora_ Год назад +2

    Surprised he didn’t include Ryujinx for Switch emulation. It runs fantastic on Apple silicon Macs.

    • @defytheeye4988
      @defytheeye4988 Год назад

      This is what I wanted to see!

    • @lemmy154
      @lemmy154 Год назад

      You wanted Nintendo to kill him?

  • @TalonNismo
    @TalonNismo Год назад

    Looks like I’ll be good to go when I get the m2 Mac Studio. Thank you for this.

  • @zenit4615
    @zenit4615 Год назад

    Bro i'm wearing airpod and i swear that i hear your voice but the game audio it feels like its comign from my computer. it's Awesome

  • @Canma890
    @Canma890 Год назад +1

    GT4 is a masterpiece, even better in emulation and upscaled resolution and oh boy it holds up even today imo.

    • @bpisan
      @bpisan Год назад +1

      It is! I just started replaying on my new laptop with AMD 6600H and even at 1080 I’m blown away how good GT4 looks.

  • @digitaldazzle5836
    @digitaldazzle5836 Год назад

    Guys don’t worry. I have the M2 base model and breath of the wild is incredible! I can still run the game at 1080p 45 frames a second.

  • @hotwings9382
    @hotwings9382 Год назад

    Congratulations on 1 million subscribers

  • @Themarcoalmonte
    @Themarcoalmonte Год назад +3

    With m1 getting tons of new emulation support outta nowhere, i am curious if there’ll ever be support on the m1 iPad Pro and eventually iPhone.

    • @JeanSamyr
      @JeanSamyr Год назад

      Actually is kinda easy to port a native Apple ARM macOS software to iPadOS and IOS, but the problem is that Apple don’t allow emulation software at they storefront.

  • @weeknee5118
    @weeknee5118 Год назад

    Apple Silicon is one of the greatest things that came in IT the last years. When you pay 50 cents per KWh power, a super efficient PC is worth gold. I love my MacMini, even though it's M1, but it's great enough.

  • @OllyKilo
    @OllyKilo Год назад

    Running an emulator on an emulator and still delivering great performance. Incredible chips.

  • @junxyoutube
    @junxyoutube Год назад

    "AetherSX2 development is indefinitely suspended.
    Due to neverending impersonating, complaints, demands, and now death threats, I'm done."
    WTF? AetherSX2 seems so promising, I wonder what was going on. I love the M1 and M2 Chips, they are so powerful even though they aren't the most expensive ones and I simply like MacOS more than Windows, even though I don't have a Mac right now. It's way smoother in the overall usage, but seeing gaming being more and more possible is making me happy and looking forward for a new Mac!

  • @slapndbass
    @slapndbass Месяц назад

    My pc was down for repair and i decided to install rpcs3 on my little m1 macbook. I couldn't believe how smooth it ran games it has trouble running on my pc.

  • @tornadoman25
    @tornadoman25 Год назад

    Grats on 1 million subs bro!

  • @junrosamura645
    @junrosamura645 Год назад

    Ryujinx runs amazingly well for SWITCH emu on the mac. I ended up selling my switch and have been enjoying all the latest games on my 4k monitor.

  • @EdisonTheFox
    @EdisonTheFox Год назад +2

    I'm really curious how well the standard M2 would run things... It's the one I'm seriously considering

  • @djcrillo8445
    @djcrillo8445 Год назад

    Wow!! Looking forward to future updates 👍🏻🙏🏻

  • @wathakate222
    @wathakate222 Год назад +2

    it would be great if they could test Metal gear solid 4, as it is a pretty demanding game

  • @redmayne1783
    @redmayne1783 Год назад

    Seeing ppsspp emulator and the god of war 2 game brings back so many memories.

  • @nightcoder5k
    @nightcoder5k Год назад

    That's just awesome. Thank you for making this video.

  • @shanes.6227
    @shanes.6227 Год назад

    been waiting for this!!! ARM FTW

  • @DJAYPAZ
    @DJAYPAZ Год назад +3

    I would like see the Mac Mini booted into Windows. A dual boot would be absolutely awesome. If it could dual boot, I would buy one. Hopefully also get a discount through your RUclips channel.

    • @DJAYPAZ
      @DJAYPAZ Год назад

      @Garrus Vakarian Thanks for replying. It was easy when Apple was using Intel CPUs. But now it sounds like it’s MACOS for a while.

    • @johnmackay13
      @johnmackay13 Год назад

      @@DJAYPAZ The ball is in Microsoft's court... Windows on ARM doesn't have standalone licensing at the moment, presumably because of a deal with Qualcomm for Snapdragon exclusivity. Hopefully that will change down the road, and Craig Federighi has been on record saying that their silicon will run Windows if Microsoft decides to license it. I would love to see a return to Bootcamp using these processors. My M1 Max has incredible performance in Parallels with Windows 11 (better than Microsoft's own SQ chipsets) so running that on bare metal will be a game changer.

    • @stevey500
      @stevey500 Год назад

      I do agree. Native boot / bootcamp would be nice to see. Until then, parallels runs windows 11 incredibly with video acceleration but dx12 support isn't there yet. Using hypervisors like UTM works extremely well, too at no cost but without video acceleration.

  • @roberhart
    @roberhart Год назад

    This is an amazing video!! Thank you.
    As a die hard sports video game fan. Have you tried any Madden, FIFA, or NHL games for the PS2/PS3 emulators? Say between 2006-now?

  • @Alex-Defatte
    @Alex-Defatte Год назад +1

    What over kill. You're better off emulating everything on a used Wii for $50. Then just buy an a used PS3 for $100. You can emulate everything he just did on an external hard drive for $200 perfectly. No bugs.

  • @digitaldazzle5836
    @digitaldazzle5836 Год назад +1

    I just bought the M2 Pro. The exact same model you got and I can run breath of the wild at 1080P 60 frames per second.

    • @dannyt1705
      @dannyt1705 Год назад

      so can my i5 9500 mini hp i got from ebay for 150 bucks LMAO

    • @digitaldazzle5836
      @digitaldazzle5836 Год назад

      @@dannyt1705… well aren’t you just special. There’s always one in the comments.

    • @dannyt1705
      @dannyt1705 Год назад

      @@digitaldazzle5836 Back at you : there is always one special kind of dummy that spends 1500 to do something that 150 can just as well ... smh

    • @digitaldazzle5836
      @digitaldazzle5836 Год назад

      @@dannyt1705 ... You're a liar too. Breath of the wild is the most graphically demanding game on the WiiU. You shouldn't get jealous of others because you can only afford a $150 walmart PC.

    • @digitaldazzle5836
      @digitaldazzle5836 Год назад

      @@dannyt1705 …. Excuse me, a used hand me down PC from eBay.

  • @mndlessdrwer
    @mndlessdrwer Год назад

    I'm still waiting for DosDude1 to get his hands on one of the newer Mac Mini or Macbooks to give the final verdict on whether or not any of the parts are upgradeable or not. Unfortunately, the newest stuff doesn't seem to be his particular area of interest, so unless someone just buys one and chucks it at him to tinker with, it's unlikely that he'll get around to it any time soon. We all thought the original Macbook Air wasn't upgradeable and he swapped the processor and RAM on one.

  • @ThisIsSrsBsnsMan
    @ThisIsSrsBsnsMan Год назад

    Loved the video! Thanks!

  • @xinxin852
    @xinxin852 Год назад

    Ryujinx is Apple silicone native and awesome performance for switch emulations

  • @mixdown78
    @mixdown78 Год назад

    This is the first Time i 've found the Emulators. OMG Thank you ;) i'm 40 Years younger in Seconds:))

  • @jamesrohling
    @jamesrohling Год назад

    Awesome video. Can you please test out some mmorpg games like World of Warcraft Dragonflight, Guild Wars 2 on your next video?

  • @Who-vt9oh
    @Who-vt9oh Год назад

    I have my problems with Apple as a company, but there is no denying they are an industry innovator. Their decision to move from x86 to a RISC architecture like ARM is the right one. As computing becomes more and more portable, x86 just isn't going to get it done. On a performance per watt basis, x86 simply cannot compete.

  • @AniVerseChannel
    @AniVerseChannel Год назад +1

    You said it has 16GB LPDDR4-6400 and not LPDDR5. Thanks for this review!

  • @lukahn
    @lukahn Год назад +1

    What is the green spinning grassy blob thing in the top left on your screen during some of your demos, btw? Is that to visualise frame count somehow?

  • @kenyuen6604
    @kenyuen6604 Год назад

    Yay, ps2 @8x, and can play ps3 is my dream. thank you so much. now I need to save up for an os I have never try.

  • @reesekilpatrick241
    @reesekilpatrick241 Год назад +1

    Love that 16gb of ddr4 6400!

  • @riboiman4005
    @riboiman4005 Год назад

    Funny thing is that there is a version of Going Commando for the PS3, however it only runs at 720p

  • @venerandarain3
    @venerandarain3 28 дней назад

    Mini PCs WAR on Market Has Begun!

  • @meowmochimeow
    @meowmochimeow Год назад +1

    It's so frustrating that I have the 12.9 iPad Pro with M2 and it has the same chip and it's capable of everything in this video but it's locked down with iPadOS

  • @loustalk8227
    @loustalk8227 Год назад +11

    I think the performance it's showing here in rpcs3 is impressive. It's not only going through emulation but also a compatibility layer. That itself should reduce a lot of performance.
    Also very weird for Apple to reduce prices. But it's a good deal.

    • @rrsharizam
      @rrsharizam Год назад +2

      Modern x86 cpu contain RISC cores that emulate CISC architecture
      If anything, it's the x86 cpu that runs on emulation

    • @rrsharizam
      @rrsharizam Год назад

      Also, the reduced price is the base model with 8GB RAM 10-core GPU and slower SSD. As soon as you upgrade, you're back into paying Apple taxes

    • @ZhuJo99
      @ZhuJo99 Год назад +1

      @@rrsharizam that ssd doesn’t matter at all, it’s base model for base users, yet still packing huge amount of power. Regular users are not moving gigabytes of large files here and there. I’m web dev and have no such needs too. More important is IOPS anyway. RUclipsrs are making huge deal out of it while there is no problem at all.

    • @rrsharizam
      @rrsharizam Год назад

      @@ZhuJo99 You can get similar or better performance from a Ryzen 5 5600 for $130

    • @evshrug
      @evshrug Год назад

      @@rrsharizam… but you need the motherboard, PSU, SSD, RAM, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Case, etc etc to go with it, and add to that price. Plus your personal time in a DIY build and DIY support vs a prebuilt Mini with the most comprehensive tech support in the commercial sector. But yes, buying an off the shelf chip is cheaper than buying a whole computer.

  • @Cruzzzador
    @Cruzzzador Год назад

    Great video! Have you tested some VR emulators?

  • @SMTahmid
    @SMTahmid Год назад

    I was curious about Ryujinx performance as well, perhaps a future vid?

  • @medleysa
    @medleysa Год назад +2

    I’m interested in CPU and GPU load as well as temperatures and power draw while gaming.

    • @JeanSamyr
      @JeanSamyr Год назад

      About 36w at full load on the M2 pro. The temps will be high bcs Apple allow the system to reach about 90°C but don’t kick the fan, on full load normally the fans spins about 40% of the maximum speed. But you can manually change this by software and allow the system to run the fans at 100% speed.

    • @ZhuJo99
      @ZhuJo99 Год назад

      @@JeanSamyr and by full load we are talking about 100 % utilization of both CPU and GPU.
      These chips are incredible. Notebooks are absolutely silent, even passively cooled (macbook air, look ma, no fans!) while running on battery for full day and then some.

  • @eherlitz
    @eherlitz Год назад

    Nice review! Would you consider looking into a Microsoft Project Volterra PC?

  • @zk0rned
    @zk0rned Год назад +1

    The Gigabit connector is pretty disappointing for an expensive piece of hardware

  • @srvuk
    @srvuk Год назад +1

    Whilst it does show where ARM may go in the future, this emulation performance does come at a premium price. But it is Apple, so overpricing is the norm.

  • @westnylefx
    @westnylefx Год назад

    I have a gaming pc but i still think about buying one of these m2 pro minis just because they drink almost no power, and they are just so fast.

  • @heribertosarmiento1265
    @heribertosarmiento1265 Год назад

    BUT !! BUT ETA prime everyone kept saying you can’t game in a MAC….jokes on then 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

  • @daniellundin8543
    @daniellundin8543 Год назад

    Thanks for the content, much appreciated.
    Is it LPDDR4 or LPDDR5?

  • @Shauny_D
    @Shauny_D 7 месяцев назад

    I've been working on using Emulation Station as a front end but my gosh! It been a massive pain. There has got to be a better way

  • @malekyo
    @malekyo 9 месяцев назад

    Hey man, now that it is clear that PSP and PS2 emulation is smooth as butter on the Mac... why not spend a bit of time on Switch emulation with Ryujinx? That would be awesome with your upcoming macOS reviews.

  • @ziggy8757
    @ziggy8757 Год назад +2

    make this video again but use the base mac mini instead.....

  • @animeB0y01
    @animeB0y01 Год назад +1

    Can I step down to regular M2 chip on Mac mini and get same results ?

  • @jong2359
    @jong2359 Год назад +1

    For $1200 it better emulate my job for me to pay for itself. I can do full speed PS3 emulation on a $350 PC rig.

  • @ShaferHart
    @ShaferHart Год назад

    With that price tag you can buy each and every one of those consoles with all the games tho