Another great review. I absolutely love my REL 98 classic that pairs absolutely well with my JBL L100 75th. That warm rich sound is due to the paper pulp cone of both the REL and JBL. A match made in heaven. Love the red color of that T9X though.
It's not slow by any means. It's still very dynamic due to the control of the class D amplification. It just has a slightly warmer tone due to the paper pulp cone.
I love your description of SQ, best I have heard. I currently use 2 T7X's in my 16x22x9 room paired with a pair of Magnepan 3.7i's. Prior to this I had a pair of SVS SB3000's. WOW, what a difference! One would think with a larger woofer and more powerful amp that the SVS would sound superior. Quite the opposite when it comes to SQ, which to me is all important. I had room for the T9's but didn't want to spend that much if not necessary. My dealer recommended to the T7's and I am totally pleased. Thanks for all of the great reviews. One quick question, if I may. I am seriously considering a pair of KEF R3 Metas as an ADDITION to my system and not replacing the Maggies. I assume you feel the REL's are a good match? Thanks again!
Hey Tim, yeah SVS is great but it's an SPL sub which isn't really designed for nuance detail and handeling of delicate passages. It's more the sledgehammer. Yes the R3 Meta should match well with just about anything. In my experience KEF speakers seem to pair well with either style of subwoofer.
I have the red and absolutely love it. If you want something to stand out, the color really is incredible. I can't lie though, I really wish they did carbon fiber feet instead lol.
@@NemoPropaganda I get that, I don't know I'm just not a fan. Have you seen the T/9i Red? That one had carbon feet and the contrast came out great IMO. If we could at least get the option to change them out I would be all over it.
I built my own sub this year. Box is 3.5' x 1.5' x 1.5' with opposed dual 10" Parts Express high excursion subwoofer drivers and a vintage plate amp. I integrated it into my bi-amped MTM - dual 15" woofer per channel system just as John Hunter described.
Dual opposed is great for subwoofers, my DIY sub has dual opposed 12 inch Scan Speak discovery drivers on a Hypex FA501 plate amp. The dsp on the Hypex is nice to use the sub is tuned at 22hz+-3db, the SVS SB2000 has 23hz+-3db in REW. Intern its the same as a Sigberg 10D subwoofer with bigger drivers, but it looks like the Arendal 1723 2S.
@@palmspar Wow! That sounds awesome! I bet they shake the walls. The best speakers are always the ones you build yourself. I would like a pair of MOABs though, lol.
To your question about the TV on or off: I would say keep it off. It’s a bit distracting from both the product as well as what you are saying. Love your reviews.
isnt that the race where the camaro performed so well ? the REL looks amazing and the color pops so much and yeah you right! making the footers in black would make it like a toy.
Wonderful review as always. Sometimes one gets confused as to which one is best given that there's no such thing. However, I'd like to ask you a question: if you were ever to sell off all your subwoofers but ratain just one to serve for music and movies, which would you choose from (REL, Rhythmik, RSL, JL AUDIO, SVS)??
I don't generally answer "if you had to" type questions and I don't really care for bass in movies too much. I'm happy to help you make a decision on what's right for you but I don't believe my personal taste would be helpful to you in any way. It's as you said, there is no overall best. There has to be a at least 2-3 metrics for context, like the RSL 12S is the best large vented subwoofer under $1k, that's 3 metrics, size, design, price. That still doesn't mean anything however unless you're in the market for a large vented sub under $1k.
I have enjoyed your subwoofer reviews. You mentioned that you use T7X because your room is too small for T9X. At about what room size would the T9X begin to make more sense? I use monobloc amps and will need to start with two subs. My room is 14x18x10.
I always suggest you contact the brand directly to be sure as they have more experience with various room sizes than I do but I think your room would be fine with a pair of t9x.
Love what you’re doing with this channel. Awesome reviews, content and coverage on REL! Been subscribed for a while now and all vids are on point 👍🏻. I have a question around sub recommendations. ‘what sub would you suggest for a room 24ft x 18ft and ceilings 8ft, but listening/tv area is split off in room, with approx. measurements being 13ft x 18ft same ceiling height. I will be running with S400 mk2. 😀 and probably only 1 sub to start! Was thinking T7x, T9x or maybe 1003 mk2. Split around 60/40 music and movie? Thanks
it depends how loud you want your bass when watching movies. All of those subs have enough output for music at reasonable volumes but movies are much more demanding. I think it would be a good idea for you to reach out to REL and see waht their opinion is but for what its worth the S400 MK2 pairs well with all of those subs. I think most people would enjoy dual 1003 MK2 in that kind of setup but a single T9X would also be awesome, just less headroom for movies versus the pair of 1003 MK2. T7x is only an 8" so for movies a single one may not satisfy you the way a single T9x or 1003 MK2 will.
@@NemoPropaganda thanks for the quick response 👍🏻😀 I will speak to REL in the UK 👍🏻 just wasn’t sure how the 1003 mk2 was for music vs the TXs, but guess I will need to try both in my room.
@@jamesmaxwell7402 they're both really good bro, the TX for sure is tonally richer and has more nuance fidelity whie the HT is gonna sound stronger overall and have more force to it so it just depends whats more important to you. For the S400 MK2 I think either option is a good option. That's the speaker I use personally on a daily basis.
@@NemoPropaganda cheers bro, they are awesome everyday speakers and your review was one of the first I watched before buying these. I love all the pairing comments you do with these in your vids too, v helpful when selecting new gear 👍🏻. Just looking for some deeper bass but with a SQ sub! REL is a lot easier to source in UK over Rythmik. I’m going demo a KC62 as well as saw your review on this and it looks very stylish 😀. But I think REL will probably be the winner due to movie use too! So a 1003, 7x or 9x are the shortlist really 👍🏻 Hopefully will get to see the s510 review soon from that teaser you put out🤞 😀
Thanks for the review, really helpful, I’m looking to add another Rel sub to my existing Rel Serie S2 which is no longer available but I think this is the closest thing, I have tried to contact Rel uk for advice but they don’t seem interested in talking which is disappointing, I have also considered the T7x and the HT1205 mk2, I mainly watch movies but 20% music from Focal iWLCR6 backed up by the current Rel, it just isn’t quite enough Bass with the current single sub unless I push the sub to the point where I can hear it which means I’m pushing it too hard, do you think I’m looking in the right direction adding a T9x? The room is around 5mts squared Thank you.
Hi bro, I have not heard the S2 but in my experience all REL subs play very well with eachother. Since this is more of a theater setup why not go for the HT1205 MK2? You'll have a lot more extension & output!
I wouldn't know anything about their policies. I see you don't check my community posts though :( I left an easter egg regarding this awhile back, hint, it's when I bought the platimon.
Hi Nemo. If you have the time, wondering in what way are a pair of 9’s too much for your room? I have a smaller room and unsure if I would be better off trading down to a pair of 7’s 🧐 If you review the 510, I would love to hear your thought on how one/two works in a small room, compared to the x series. Been interested in moving up, but I’m afraid of what the size would mean for my tiny space. Peace ✌️
since all your questions are for a single brand I think it makes more sense to reach out to REL directly and hear the best advice from the horses mouth. They have far more experience with their subs in various sized rooms than I do.
Cheers Nemo. ! There was only one question there (and a petition to talk about how the 510 works in your smaller space, once you review it). Sorry if my waffling made that unclear 😅
@@thepickyaudiophile it's not just the size but also the shape of the room that's a factor. REL is shockingly good at recommending the right sub for the room. I have a lot of other gera here so sadly I have not spent much time with the S510 yet.
I don't do these comparisons for the sake of bench racing or curiousity, I do them to help people make a purchase. I do not believe anybody is cross shopping a 10" against a 15".
Maybe I don’t know what I am doing then because I am indeed cross shopping these two. I am looking for absolute best accuracy, speed, over total output. On the other hand it is important for me to have two subs for room looks. I haven’t been able to audition the rythmik. I also use this setup to watch movies so it doesn’t hurt if the sub can extend lower for the occasional explosion or movie effect. However, that is NOT my main goal with the sub. In my case, space is not that critical as I have a dedicated room. Size of the woofer/cabinet aside, what can you say about the accuracy of sound quality of these.
@@raisivity oh damn, I think you should hop in my free discord, post up a pic of the room and mention your goals. From there we can help point you in the right direction. These are both top tier SQ subs so you're not gonna have any complaints on sound quality from either one, your issue is more what size does your room need and I can't really help with that in the YT comments.
@@jagjitjosan2755 I'll share now, I'm not greedy with information lol, they are 2 completely different subwoofers. I consider the KF92 one of the best compact LFE subs, if you're mostly watching movies and need a compact sub that's going to get super low, WOW! The KF92 is a champion. The S510 is a little bigger overall and still extends very low of course but it's more something that will fit in with a super high end 2ch system, the S510 is designed for LFE primarily so it can still do theater no problem but it's fidelity is really a big step up from the KF92 and you'll hear transients in the lower frequencies you never knew were there! S510 is much more high end overall but ultimately I feel each sub is for a different kind of customer.
Hi Nemo I have a SVS SB 3000 at about 75 db and down my bass energy is perfect But if I go to ninety ninety five db The base loads in the opposite side of the room. What can I do for this, rooms 14' x 22' is it to much subwoofer for the room. HELP
that's a room issue for sure, sounds like as bass output increases your room issues are becoming more obvious, try experimenting with placement. The SB3000 generally likes to play louder and closer to it's maximum capability so I'm surprised your issues are occuring at the louder volumes but that's also what makes me think it's a room issue.
@@howardmims8376 hard to say, placement might fix your issue, maybe DSP will help, maybe a smaller sub will sound better. I had similar issues with my sb3000, it's a lot of sub and not really a great fit in smaller rooms unless you're willing to dsp everything. The SB3000 likes to play at full tilt, my favorites svs sub is actually the SB1000 Pro, I was able to get that dialed in my room way better! If you want to try a different brand theres always the REL HT 1003 or 1205 MK2, Rythmik L12 or F12, or the JL Audio D110.
that's a tough one, it really depends on the rest of the system. Getting 1 T7x to start would allow me to add a second one later as finances allow and then I'd end up with 2 better subs. I think the delayed gratification approach gets better results so I'd do that.
Rick I don't think reivews work the way you think they work, I mean seriously you expect to demo bass through a video on youtube? Maybe take the portal gun out of your ass and open a rift to your local REL dealer if you want to hear the subwoofer? Just a thought from your local morty... Please use your brain next time, god gave it to you for a reason.
I LOVE my twin T5X’s. The importance of having two subwoofers can’t be overstated.
Another great review. I absolutely love my REL 98 classic that pairs absolutely well with my JBL L100 75th. That warm rich sound is due to the paper pulp cone of both the REL and JBL. A match made in heaven. Love the red color of that T9X though.
That sounds very slow.
It's not slow by any means. It's still very dynamic due to the control of the class D amplification. It just has a slightly warmer tone due to the paper pulp cone.
Perfect background for the tv
I love your description of SQ, best I have heard. I currently use 2 T7X's in my 16x22x9 room paired with a pair of Magnepan 3.7i's. Prior to this I had a pair of SVS SB3000's. WOW, what a difference! One would think with a larger woofer and more powerful amp that the SVS would sound superior. Quite the opposite when it comes to SQ, which to me is all important. I had room for the T9's but didn't want to spend that much if not necessary. My dealer recommended to the T7's and I am totally pleased. Thanks for all of the great reviews. One quick question, if I may. I am seriously considering a pair of KEF R3 Metas as an ADDITION to my system and not replacing the Maggies. I assume you feel the REL's are a good match? Thanks again!
Hey Tim, yeah SVS is great but it's an SPL sub which isn't really designed for nuance detail and handeling of delicate passages. It's more the sledgehammer. Yes the R3 Meta should match well with just about anything. In my experience KEF speakers seem to pair well with either style of subwoofer.
Rel make the best Subs love this red finish 👌🏻
I have the red and absolutely love it. If you want something to stand out, the color really is incredible. I can't lie though, I really wish they did carbon fiber feet instead lol.
Really? I think that might have overdone the contrast.
@@NemoPropaganda I get that, I don't know I'm just not a fan. Have you seen the T/9i Red? That one had carbon feet and the contrast came out great IMO. If we could at least get the option to change them out I would be all over it.
I built my own sub this year. Box is 3.5' x 1.5' x 1.5' with opposed dual 10" Parts Express high excursion subwoofer drivers and a vintage plate amp. I integrated it into my bi-amped MTM - dual 15" woofer per channel system just as John Hunter described.
Dual opposed is great for subwoofers, my DIY sub has dual opposed 12 inch Scan Speak discovery drivers on a Hypex FA501 plate amp.
The dsp on the Hypex is nice to use the sub is tuned at 22hz+-3db, the SVS SB2000 has 23hz+-3db in REW.
Intern its the same as a Sigberg 10D subwoofer with bigger drivers, but it looks like the Arendal 1723 2S.
@@palmspar Wow! That sounds awesome! I bet they shake the walls. The best speakers are always the ones you build yourself. I would like a pair of MOABs though, lol.
@@carlsitler9071 yes the sub sounds verry good., it was a nice project to do.
Appreciate your thoughts and knowledge on Rel subs. Thank you.
To your question about the TV on or off: I would say keep it off. It’s a bit distracting from both the product as well as what you are saying. Love your reviews.
Haha! You get distracted too easy.
Love the TV on adds a extra element
isnt that the race where the camaro performed so well ? the REL looks amazing and the color pops so much and yeah you right! making the footers in black would make it like a toy.
I'm not sure, I didn't watch the race footage myself :)
@@NemoPropaganda haha ok
Nemo is the subwoofer king
thank you :)
Did you change mics or settings? I am hearing a lot more semblance and pitchy.
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yeah, mic is messed up, already ordered a new one but already filmed a few other reviews with this one so it is what it is.
I thought it was exactly same as the t9x just different colour. Since I like your reviews I decided to watch anyway
That is a beautiful sub.❤❤❤
Wonderful review as always. Sometimes one gets confused as to which one is best given that there's no such thing. However, I'd like to ask you a question: if you were ever to sell off all your subwoofers but ratain just one to serve for music and movies, which would you choose from (REL, Rhythmik, RSL, JL AUDIO, SVS)??
I have 1 subwoofer I'm Thinking to start with RSL 10S I listen to music
I don't generally answer "if you had to" type questions and I don't really care for bass in movies too much. I'm happy to help you make a decision on what's right for you but I don't believe my personal taste would be helpful to you in any way. It's as you said, there is no overall best. There has to be a at least 2-3 metrics for context, like the RSL 12S is the best large vented subwoofer under $1k, that's 3 metrics, size, design, price. That still doesn't mean anything however unless you're in the market for a large vented sub under $1k.
REL suggested the HT1003 to me for high sensitivity speakers because they need the low level input
do it! I love the 1003 mk2, I said it was the best small sub of 2023!
I have enjoyed your subwoofer reviews. You mentioned that you use T7X because your room is too small for T9X. At about what room size would the T9X begin to make more sense? I use monobloc amps and will need to start with two subs. My room is 14x18x10.
I always suggest you contact the brand directly to be sure as they have more experience with various room sizes than I do but I think your room would be fine with a pair of t9x.
Love what you’re doing with this channel. Awesome reviews, content and coverage on REL! Been subscribed for a while now and all vids are on point 👍🏻.
I have a question around sub recommendations. ‘what sub would you suggest for a room 24ft x 18ft and ceilings 8ft, but listening/tv area is split off in room, with approx. measurements being 13ft x 18ft same ceiling height. I will be running with S400 mk2. 😀 and probably only 1 sub to start!
Was thinking T7x, T9x or maybe 1003 mk2. Split around 60/40 music and movie?
Thanks
it depends how loud you want your bass when watching movies. All of those subs have enough output for music at reasonable volumes but movies are much more demanding. I think it would be a good idea for you to reach out to REL and see waht their opinion is but for what its worth the S400 MK2 pairs well with all of those subs. I think most people would enjoy dual 1003 MK2 in that kind of setup but a single T9X would also be awesome, just less headroom for movies versus the pair of 1003 MK2. T7x is only an 8" so for movies a single one may not satisfy you the way a single T9x or 1003 MK2 will.
@@NemoPropaganda thanks for the quick response 👍🏻😀 I will speak to REL in the UK 👍🏻 just wasn’t sure how the 1003 mk2 was for music vs the TXs, but guess I will need to try both in my room.
@@jamesmaxwell7402 they're both really good bro, the TX for sure is tonally richer and has more nuance fidelity whie the HT is gonna sound stronger overall and have more force to it so it just depends whats more important to you. For the S400 MK2 I think either option is a good option. That's the speaker I use personally on a daily basis.
@@NemoPropaganda cheers bro, they are awesome everyday speakers and your review was one of the first I watched before buying these. I love all the pairing comments you do with these in your vids too, v helpful when selecting new gear 👍🏻.
Just looking for some deeper bass but with a SQ sub! REL is a lot easier to source in UK over Rythmik. I’m going demo a KC62 as well as saw your review on this and it looks very stylish 😀. But I think REL will probably be the winner due to movie use too! So a 1003, 7x or 9x are the shortlist really 👍🏻
Hopefully will get to see the s510 review soon from that teaser you put out🤞 😀
Thanks for the review, really helpful, I’m looking to add another Rel sub to my existing Rel Serie S2 which is no longer available but I think this is the closest thing, I have tried to contact Rel uk for advice but they don’t seem interested in talking which is disappointing, I have also considered the T7x and the HT1205 mk2, I mainly watch movies but 20% music from Focal iWLCR6 backed up by the current Rel, it just isn’t quite enough Bass with the current single sub unless I push the sub to the point where I can hear it which means I’m pushing it too hard, do you think I’m looking in the right direction adding a T9x? The room is around 5mts squared
Thank you.
Hi bro, I have not heard the S2 but in my experience all REL subs play very well with eachother. Since this is more of a theater setup why not go for the HT1205 MK2? You'll have a lot more extension & output!
Nemo, is it RELs policy not to send the S series out for reviews?Like, why haven’t they sent you an s510 at this point. Gat damn!
I wouldn't know anything about their policies. I see you don't check my community posts though :( I left an easter egg regarding this awhile back, hint, it's when I bought the platimon.
I watched 17 minutes of the vid before I realized the sub was red, great racing though! Lol!
Hi Nemo. If you have the time, wondering in what way are a pair of 9’s too much for your room? I have a smaller room and unsure if I would be better off trading down to a pair of 7’s 🧐 If you review the 510, I would love to hear your thought on how one/two works in a small room, compared to the x series. Been interested in moving up, but I’m afraid of what the size would mean for my tiny space. Peace ✌️
since all your questions are for a single brand I think it makes more sense to reach out to REL directly and hear the best advice from the horses mouth. They have far more experience with their subs in various sized rooms than I do.
Cheers Nemo. ! There was only one question there (and a petition to talk about how the 510 works in your smaller space, once you review it). Sorry if my waffling made that unclear 😅
@@thepickyaudiophile it's not just the size but also the shape of the room that's a factor. REL is shockingly good at recommending the right sub for the room. I have a lot of other gera here so sadly I have not spent much time with the S510 yet.
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks man, I’ve reached out to them! Don’t stress and hope you get to spend some quality time with the 510’s soon 😎❤️
great live performance!
Sooo, what about this vs a Rythmik E15HP2? Price is virtually the same and they are both SQ focused.
I don't do these comparisons for the sake of bench racing or curiousity, I do them to help people make a purchase. I do not believe anybody is cross shopping a 10" against a 15".
Maybe I don’t know what I am doing then because I am indeed cross shopping these two. I am looking for absolute best accuracy, speed, over total output. On the other hand it is important for me to have two subs for room looks.
I haven’t been able to audition the rythmik. I also use this setup to watch movies so it doesn’t hurt if the sub can extend lower for the occasional explosion or movie effect. However, that is NOT my main goal with the sub.
In my case, space is not that critical as I have a dedicated room.
Size of the woofer/cabinet aside, what can you say about the accuracy of sound quality of these.
@@raisivity oh damn, I think you should hop in my free discord, post up a pic of the room and mention your goals. From there we can help point you in the right direction. These are both top tier SQ subs so you're not gonna have any complaints on sound quality from either one, your issue is more what size does your room need and I can't really help with that in the YT comments.
Hi Nemo, any chance you can get to review the Rel S series - S510 / S812 ? Or have you heard these ?
you didn't watch the whole video :/
😂@@NemoPropaganda Missed the last 20 seconds . Waiting on your review on the s510. With a comparison to Kef Kf92 would be great
@@jagjitjosan2755 I'll share now, I'm not greedy with information lol, they are 2 completely different subwoofers. I consider the KF92 one of the best compact LFE subs, if you're mostly watching movies and need a compact sub that's going to get super low, WOW! The KF92 is a champion. The S510 is a little bigger overall and still extends very low of course but it's more something that will fit in with a super high end 2ch system, the S510 is designed for LFE primarily so it can still do theater no problem but it's fidelity is really a big step up from the KF92 and you'll hear transients in the lower frequencies you never knew were there! S510 is much more high end overall but ultimately I feel each sub is for a different kind of customer.
Thanks for your input, S510 it is then. @@NemoPropaganda
I had the Rel Red T9i subwoofer l bought it 4 years ago for £950 now it's £1595 you can buy a S5/10 for just a little more £££/$$$
At least it doesn't say REL on the driver.
What a shame 😂I love the REL branding on my sub.
Does the classic 98 sound more like a SVS sub?
no, not even a little bit.
When is the review coming?
@@hclandscapes should be within 30 days, next 2 weeks are already scheduled.
Hi Nemo I have a SVS SB 3000 at about 75 db and down my bass energy is perfect But if I go to ninety ninety five db The base loads in the opposite side of the room. What can I do for this, rooms 14' x 22' is it to much subwoofer for the room.
HELP
that's a room issue for sure, sounds like as bass output increases your room issues are becoming more obvious, try experimenting with placement. The SB3000 generally likes to play louder and closer to it's maximum capability so I'm surprised your issues are occuring at the louder volumes but that's also what makes me think it's a room issue.
Should I go with a smaller subwoofer that will not Create these issues.
@@howardmims8376 hard to say, placement might fix your issue, maybe DSP will help, maybe a smaller sub will sound better. I had similar issues with my sb3000, it's a lot of sub and not really a great fit in smaller rooms unless you're willing to dsp everything. The SB3000 likes to play at full tilt, my favorites svs sub is actually the SB1000 Pro, I was able to get that dialed in my room way better! If you want to try a different brand theres always the REL HT 1003 or 1205 MK2, Rythmik L12 or F12, or the JL Audio D110.
Would’ve been nice to compare to comparably priced Rythmic
@@audioman99what do you mean? Rythmik doesn’t make anything this small. Surely you don’t expect me to compare a 10” to a 15”???
Would you prefer a single T7X over dual T5Xs?
that's a tough one, it really depends on the rest of the system. Getting 1 T7x to start would allow me to add a second one later as finances allow and then I'd end up with 2 better subs. I think the delayed gratification approach gets better results so I'd do that.
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Holy fuck Morty, 17 min and no sound samples.
Rick I don't think reivews work the way you think they work, I mean seriously you expect to demo bass through a video on youtube? Maybe take the portal gun out of your ass and open a rift to your local REL dealer if you want to hear the subwoofer? Just a thought from your local morty... Please use your brain next time, god gave it to you for a reason.
I love the branding. These people just can’t afford it so they will mock it😂
Too much sub for your room? Almost all subs are too much for home 2 channel systems. Home theater is a different animal.
I don't know about almost all, depends who makes it.
Buy this sub if you like pretty shit. Don’t even have to plug it in 😂
Turn off ur TV first. When ur reviews......
You obviously didn’t watch the whole video. Smh…
love the whole look!