and they have the audacity to say Denuvo did nothing wrong with your frame rate drop....when people tested the game with denuvo and one without....the cracked game somehow run much smoother than "always online" game
@@ZzVinniezZ thats not necessarely the case all the time Many times denuvo doesnt actually get removed from cracked games they just have a way to work around it Meaning that even pirate games suffer from the performance impact denuvo has Honestly the only thing we can really hope to happen to help performance is if the developers itself remove it in its entirely like doom did In any way they arent going to see a single cent of mine while the game still has it
@@wrongthinker843 reduces but not completely removes it with is why many comparisons of "cracked vs denuvo" doesnt show any performace loss because both versions are still actually running denuvo
Remember when Overkill implemented CSGO knife style gambling boxes into Payday? Remember how the massive backlash by the fanbase eventually led to them being removed? Yeah, everyone just remember that....better times....better times.
It wasn't fanbase backlash but the laws against lootboxes. "Payday 2 developer OVERKILL has announced plans to restructure its loot box system in order to make sure the studio is “in compliance with the relevant laws”"
@@demonknight7510Deep Silver has nothing to do with PAYDAY 3. The game is being published by PLAION, who worked with Deep Silver in the past so I think that's where you're getting confused. Edit: Nevermind, Deep Silver is involved with PAYDAY 3 but it's the same thing I said about PLAION. They're only the publishers.
@thatbloodyrisk bro deep silver is a Branch of plaion they literally own them they are the same lol deep sliver does have much to do with payday 3 they are the publisher plaion only operates the different publishers they have like prime matter deep silver and ravencourts different publishers and they been dropping bangers like dead island 2 lately.
You ever have that nightmare where your dream was just a normal shift at your shit job then you wake up and realize the shift you just pulled wasn't real and now you have to do another shift
@@bogusjuan4998 what’s worse than that is when you dream you messed something up bad at work and go to work like damn today gonna suck and find out it was just a dream 😭
I need to commend you for all the extra editing Fleek. You didn't have to do any of that, but let me tell you it was almost as good as a whole flock of busty nuns. Almost. YES SIR!
@@marcust478 You don’t have fire in your belly, i guess. 🤷🏻♂️ 🤣 I checked out of either Payday 1 or 2 when i saw they had an H3H3 dlc. I was like, “wtf??” I deleted the games from my memory and forgot they existed.
ironic they added denuvo while not giving a shit about cheating until now, and such a quarter-assed way to do it too. damn I hope nobody steals our game about bank robbing, wouldn't that be hilarious
the reason for using denuvo and the game being online only is clearly to actually make it impossible for people to use DLC unlockers and pirate the game. Basically ovk hasnt given a shit up until now, because they made all their cash out of DLC sales. Somehow they thought that was not enough and they felt the need to fuck everyone in the ass.
And if they didn't add denuvo and some mass case of hacking went on people would cry about it Denuvo isn't a big deal unless you want it to be and frankly there's no reason for it to be
@@vallarfaxgaming while denuvo can be used for that purpose, its main objective is to prevent pirating the product, similar to account validation with online only.... to prevent hacking, the best mehtod is with client authority checks and enforcing server consistency, all things that can be done with 1 click in unreal engine, so no, denuvo is not there to prevent cheating in pd3. Besides, why would people cry? pd2 has had tons of cheaters for ages and nobody seems to care.
@@AlFredo-sx2yyCheaters that you'd never see thanks to the "auto kick cheaters button" AND the actual kick button available to the host if desired. Ironically, payday 2 got so boring even cheaters stopped playing it, that really is something. And speaking of cheaters, I gotta mention the cheater tag you'd get for using a dlc unlocker because you didn't feel like paying MAD Dosh for 90% of the content in-game just because the company almost went bankrupt and they gotta recover, which is their own fault.
I can honestly say I have not been this immersed in a RUclips video / channel in so long. The energy, the speed, the passion. I feel as though I have had an hours worth of entertainment in 11 and a half minutes. You're a different kind of buzz, keep doing what you do just the way you do it.
There’s one part of this video that does miss the mark: the original creators comments. The version of PD2 that many players identify with is very different from the original version of PD2 that the OG studio heads intended. PD3 is made by many of the people behind the PD2 many current players know about and is more in line with the original vision of PD2 despite this.
Yeah, I played Payday 3 and it drastically removed the stat-gaming of 2 in favor of a more realistic approach like the first game. Honestly, if it wasn't for the scummy business practices the game would be great, the beta was fun af
The company now is a skeleton crew compared to what they where, whoever put the soul in Payday 1 did not work on payday 2 and the people working on payday 3 did not work on payday 2 10 years ago.
@@migueeeelet imo the roots was a tough as nails game that wasn't a joke, late game payday 2 lore is actually insane, and the content is recycled assets, reused objectives, and 3000 cops. Payday 1 doesn't even look like payday 2, payday 3 looks like any unreal 5 asset flip.
@@billforson3143 calling it a UE5 flip is being extremely uncharitable for what is some of the most satisfying FPS gameplay in years. I found myself struggling to stop playing the game, even with the copious amounts of bugs in the beta that hindered progress. It is that "tough as nails" game the first one was, having replayed the first two for PD3. Ulf Andersson is the only one of the brothers who had real contribution to the game design, and he was gone from the company in 2015 anyway. You wouldn't call Red Dead Redemption 2 soulless just because Leslie Benzies didn't work on it, would you? They still have guys like Martin Waern in the company, the development just isn't a product of Ulf's vision anymore. Tbh, his last game GTFO wasn't exactly the greatest, anyway. It’s an amalgamation of good concepts executed poorly, much like launch-day Payday 2. He is far more apprehensive of microtransactions and other practices than recent Overkill, but to call the game soulless is just an insult to all the devs who worked hard on it.
Never in a million years would I have guessed that I would see a game review mixed with ADHD family feud. It’s the schizophrenic nautical nonsense that keeps me coming back to this channel.
@@Chi-Chi-Fy Oh I’ve seen them. Lord knows I’ve seen them. I still have no idea what happened in the Ultrakill one, but the images are burned into my brain.
I have "only" 2029 hours in Payday 2 and i wasn't sure about getting 3. Mostly because, as was mentionet in the video, current devs aren't the same ones that made 2. But also because i'm not sure if they won't abandon 3 less than a year later like they did Raid WW2 (the only game that i ever pre-ordered, kinda don't regret it it's a fun game). But after this video i'm not sure if i will get it, the whole predatory elements list is a good reason to think about.
if you get slapped with all this garbage and still need to think about getting it, then you might be part of the reason why greedy corpos constantly get away with this
i need to think about it because iv'e been playing Payday 2 since 2013 and got over 2k hours in it, so no wonder devs got some trust credit from me@@hundkebab2433
@@hundkebab2433 spot on. its like the cod community when they bitch every year that cod sucks and then buy the super deluxe version whilst crying how bad it is. watching gamers is like watching an abusive couple whilst screaming "JUST LEAVE"
Real quick, as someone who’s no doubt hit the level cap a few times, is it a faster process if you re-up a few times or does the experience scale to match the bonus? Legit can’t find any Info about it online.
@@ryanwood6754 It's the exact same with the NBA 2k playerbase, every year they spend 150 bucks on the ultimate edition and then swear it's the last 2k game they're ever going to buy, it's a big reason why all these AAA devs have gotten so comfortable with shitty and lazy practices, because idiots will still support them for some reason
@@bcmm1880 glaring issues you mean… writing? Because since fixes and release of extended cut I never had a problem with this game outside of writing… and writing in me 3 still miles ahead comparing to andromeda especially when it comes to dialogues.
@@slammydunk9787 "Because since fixes and release of extended cut I never had a problem " So it's ok to release a broken game on launch bc they "fixed it later"? Troglodyte.
"If you're the one fellow that hasn't heard of the payday series because you're still trapped in a VC tunnel waiting out the Vietnam War I say stay in there" I had to pause the video here I couldn't hear shit over my laughter.
I just want to know why online only when you can still play solo would be a problem, bitching about living in countries with no wi-fi? Targikistan? Burundi? Bangladesh? Like why
@@clusokiller99I also dont understand the constant fear people have for online only, like do yall not have a good internet connection? Do you have constant internet issues? If so I can understand but if your internet is completely fine then what's the deal if you're gonna be on the internet anyways all the time. I dont let these things bother me because when I am gaming the internet is actually on and if I suddenly have the internet go out sure I'll be annoyed but I'll either wait it out for it to come back or play one of my offline games in the meantime.
@@pleasedontkillme1185 exactly, i just don't get the point of why people has gone mad for this online only, cause in future if they close the servers you wil not be able to play? They are already scared 10 years or who knows before they shut down payday servers and the game is not even out. 🤣
That would be the dumbest shit ever, spending resources on something no one plays anymore and expecting a comeback from it, if anything they're gonna flood payday 3 with micro transactions
@@dr3amless345 "No one plays anymore." Current playercount in-game on Steam at 7 AM: 48,515. Dude, maybe you should actually check numbers before you make yourself look like an even bigger idiot.
Have watched and enjoyed many of the videos on your channel. I liked Payday 2 for a while, but eventually it got old when I realized there were only about 6-7 missions that were viable to stealth (regular bank, shadow raid, Firestarter, the jewelry store missions, and only a few others). Due to only being able to answer 4 pagers and having craploads more guards to deal with than that, and few effective ways to track them that didn't risk being detected. The new one throwing in Denuvo, a cash shop, and being always online though... big oof. Great video by the way.
This is honestly the best video you have ever made. I also notice most of the really positive previews are from content creators who popped up out of the blue in the last year or so and were propped up by overkill and given special access to the game. When I wanted to see previews and looked up pd3 on yt it was all literal fucking who people who were flown out to play it in Sweden.
I mean I got special treatment when it came to the beta for no god damn reason except I complained, and then i complained about the xp problem and they fixed that as well. I thought the beta was decent, that bank had heavy vibes from the bank heist in payday 2, like the whole map layout was very familiar and considering i farmed that heist stealth hundreds of times i felt at home in the one map they gave us access to. But the catch is I'm not Gunna buy the game cuz I'm getting it free with game pass, I have no stakes in this. And even if I were to buy the game, at least it's only $40 as opposed to the $70 most current gen games are going for. I really wish I could play by myself offline though, that would be a reason to buy the game. I bought payday 2 three times for myself and four times for friends so I wouldn't mind spending money if the quality is there. But since it's online only I won't be spending money on it.
are u sure you saw only the youtubers that popped up last year? I saw mortifer, generalmcbadass, hollow, kknowley and a few others from my own country and people that played other games, all of these people have been making content for many years, most of them at least 5 years
What about people like MarioInATopHat or The KKnowley? They liked the beta a lot from what Ive heard and theyve also been open about their gripes with Payday & OVERKILL
Man your editing and Humor is just on another level, you are one of my favorite youtubers when it comes to cheering me up. You NEVER fail to make me laugh man!
I was afraid of Payday 3 being doomed from the start when Update 237 came out, The radio silence was concerning, but a couple of days after the update they released the gameplay trailer for PD3. Did they mention anything about the crossplay problem? No. but as soon as premium currency for the game leaked onto the Epic game stores, they were QUICK to defend that it was "only going to be cosmetic". ok thats cool, what about the crossplay problem? No? ok. they only announced it like a week after the PD3 trailer released but even then, they blame that the main reason why PD2 no longer had linux support was because the OS was "using an outdated version of the PD2 engine" which is bullshit because if that were the case, then wouldn't Linux support stop after 100 updates ago before Epic crossplay? These were to me early signs of worse things to come and I was very concerned about the future of the Payday franchise. But when I made a video talking about some of my concerns for the game, many of the blind consumers told me "not judge a game before it comes out", and these are the same people praising it despite them probably not getting access to the beta to say otherwise. So judging it is wrong, but praising it is perfectly fine? Wtf kind of hypocrisy is that? Fleek, I pray for your safety after making this video. I hope you don't have to go through the month of constant death threats and other comments that get filtered out of the comment section by default. I'm happy that someone was at least able to shine more light on the situation about PD3's problems even before it's launch. There are no wrong opinions in what you said, only facts. Don't listen to the blind consumers.
Ah yes because some random youtuber with less than 500k subs who isn't an insider for OVK should somehow be able to speak as if he knows what's going on 😂😂 The game is going to succeed or fail regardless of whatever some random tuber says
You should still form your own opinion on it regardless. I found the video entertaining and informative but I'm probably still gonna get payday 3 if it turns out to be good at least (buying it day 1 however? no, not to mention I don't even have the money for that). Gameplay wise it seems still very good but how they handle monetization is definitely something to be very wary of.
@@vallarfaxgaming It is going to succeed because people don't know how to spend their money. If no one bought Payday 3, we could have the best Payday game ever created.
i need him saying "bear fucker" in a clip i need it for an inside joke me and a friend have from the time he played as a druid and needed to get into an eladrin nobles tower
a lot of progress is shown, the only actual problems this video showed is the always online DRM which I guess is needed for the crossplay? who knows, but I hope they make it like Payday 2 with offline mode
Ok this may seem bad but i need you guys to remember THE GAME IS NOT OUT YET don’t completely write off a game you havent played yet and havent came out yet because of a 11 minute long video DONT BE SHEEP
I know it's been a month since PD3 was released but I keep coming back here because this is the funniest video you've ever made. Please bring back Fleek Feud.
That's a shame considering I have 3k hours in Payday 2. Looks like I will be giving this a pass entirely or at least until their noses are bloody enough to remove all the anti-consumer features.
@@KK-my6hw deleted my comments because I realized I was wrong, sorry for the arguements, it'd be wise if you deleted yours too so people don't get confused and start asking what this is about, but yeah sorry for the arguements, I've had some time to critically think about it and I agree with you.
The sheer lack of content and charging only "$40" for base game but $50 for a WHOLE YEAR 1 SEASON PASS. Is just criminal. They haven't learned from their old ways, especially not in ye olde stealth desync department
I get tired of watching people bitch about not having enough money for a "want". Especially when it's 40 dollars, or on gamepass with a subscription you probably already have. It's a video game, if you can't afford them then maybe you need to recheck your priorities. If you're too young to get a job, well kiddo, this is a mature rated title anyway.
wow, its almost like people don't want to piss away money for a game that's goanna be shit, and will need 1000+ dollars to own everything, and people like spending money they have left over on things they like because it makes them happy, who would have thunk? really, 40 dollars for any game now is crazy, let alone forking more just to get at most, 3 hours of extra content is stupid.@@thewhistler6537
Good video. I'm baffled by the fact that this decently average game is getting a sequel, let alone one that ticks all these boxes. It's simply insane on a level beyond anything I could even begin to consider reasonable. Makes me disappointed by the state of games (and the world at large).
@@yourlocalidiot4085 Did I say the game was bad? No, I said it was decently average. And since Payday 3 is essentially Payday 2 but with minor changes, then Payday 3 is also decently average. Even so, the quality of the game cannot be gaged from the beta, especially not this particular beta, because this one barely has any content, doesn't feature progression or the cash shop so we can't know whether or not the situation is going to be truly dire or it will just suck, and the fact that one needs to make accounts on external websites to play this Always Online DENUVO protected game is enough of an indicator that things are going to suck. Just handle accounts through Steam, remove Denuvo (since it negatively impacts performance) and it might not even be that proper to moan about the game, if the microtransactions are "reasonable". If the game maintains the Denuvo+external website registration+features nasty microtransactions, it would not matter how good the gameplay is, because the overall experience would be thoroughly ruined by the presence of those things.
idk why you're baffled. 20-50k concurrent players on a 10 yr old game = primed for a sequel. I do agree about the anti-consumer practices though. payday 2 was bad enough and looks like they're going all in with payday 3 so I definitely wont be buying it because of that
@@j-swag7438 I'm baffled, because the game seems perfectly playable and presentable in its current form. It gets updates very regularly and, as we can see from what PayDay 3 has to offer so far, there is not much room for innovation in the formula. It's like buying a new spoon because your old spoon is still in perfect condition and is clean, but you're under the impression that it's old and you need a new spoon. Pointless.
@gemsimov I think most people enjoy the idea of a sequel because the other 10 year old game is held together by duct tape and spit otherwise known as the God aweful and very limiting Diesel Engine. Overkill did their damn best with it for all these years, basically working straight up goddamn magic to get an engine made for driving games to spit out and maintain an fps co-op shooter, but it's about time they trade up for something better and helluva lot easier to work with. I mean, this whole sequel want started with people just being sick of the diesel engine and it's constant problems, limitations, and poor optimization. With this game now on Unreal, they might have to start from scratch, but it'll be better in the long run, should the game's other apparent issues not shoot it in the leg before it can even start.
I'm so glad one of my favourite pimps is an avid Payday 2 veteren. I already knew when I heard "Break the Rules" soundtrack in the background, something a casual reviewer wouldn't slap on without knowing.
I've been wanting a Payday 3 for a while because as much as i loved 2 the diesel engine and how stealth worked kind of sucked. It's a shame that denuvo and other bad practices are being used but its probably due to Overkill almost going bankrupt and signing a big deal with the overlord of their publisher and trying to secure their money. They might do what they did with Metro Exodus and remove it later but probably won't and will use it as an anti cheat. I was going to wait on it anyways till a massive sale because it doesn't interest me much anymore and would rather see how it progresses
@@simplysmiley4670"paid live service" It has a season pass which isn't time limited like battle passes are It has a premium currency for cosmetic items which is entirely optional and the c-stacks can only be bought with earned cash, so I really don't see what your issue is It's frankly a whole lot tamer than some modern day games
@@dr3amless345I think so yeah, from my understanding you buy c stacks from the cash you earn playing the game and then you can use those c stacks to buy other stuff and the more you buy in a week the more expensive they get and the price on them resets every week.
it'd survive off the modding scene and thats it. Also I wish they'd make it so cleanup fees are pinned onto the killer not the whole team, cause nothing is more annoying than booting them and being down a gun.
TIME FOR THE FLEEK FEUD LIGHTNING ROUND, 20 ANSWERS ON THE BOARD. What other franchises were RUINED by these practices?
Unga is now currency for pimps and real gamers
Dude I know what payday is, never played it. But ur so funny. ❤ you so much
Assassins creed sir
My wife Steve. *Steve begins to stare into the abyss*
“Call of Duty Steve!” “Survey says…
Oh fuck look at that, top of the board.”
Adding Denuvo to an always-online game is like adding padlocks to security guarded checkpoints.
and they have the audacity to say Denuvo did nothing wrong with your frame rate drop....when people tested the game with denuvo and one without....the cracked game somehow run much smoother than "always online" game
@@ZzVinniezZ thats not necessarely the case all the time
Many times denuvo doesnt actually get removed from cracked games they just have a way to work around it
Meaning that even pirate games suffer from the performance impact denuvo has
Honestly the only thing we can really hope to happen to help performance is if the developers itself remove it in its entirely like doom did
In any way they arent going to see a single cent of mine while the game still has it
@@valletas Except the workaround still reduces the performance impact.
@@wrongthinker843 reduces but not completely removes it with is why many comparisons of "cracked vs denuvo" doesnt show any performace loss because both versions are still actually running denuvo
@@valletas ouch... that sux
Rufus really told us some of the most important info.
It's pretty sad to know that the OG devs are gone.
IDK, Mass Effect Andromeda was pretty good and it had a completely different... *snicker* sorry I couldn't keep up the bit.
@@Acesahn redditor ass comment
Not even ginormous breast mods can save Mass Effect Andromeda
Fat Ashley might though
Thats on them for their financial lawsuits lmao. Yea it sucks they're gone but that means it'd probably be *worse* than this
At least we can look forward to Ulf Andersson's new heist game he's working on
Remember when Overkill implemented CSGO knife style gambling boxes into Payday? Remember how the massive backlash by the fanbase eventually led to them being removed? Yeah, everyone just remember that....better times....better times.
It wasn't fanbase backlash but the laws against lootboxes. "Payday 2 developer OVERKILL has announced plans to restructure its loot box system in order to make sure the studio is “in compliance with the relevant laws”"
if loot boxes are gambling so are kinder eggs and goodie bags
I honestly didn't have a problem with it until I realized some attachments are skin exclusive
@@imalittletoxicjustalittleso are those card packs they sell to children too
@@imalittletoxicjustalittlethis is just a braindead take
Nice to see Overkill learned absolutely nothing after multiple controversies and nearly going bankrupt...
Exept the one who is apperantly making it is Deep silver. If i am not wrong.
@@demonknight7510 That's their publisher for Payday 3.
@@demonknight7510Deep Silver has nothing to do with PAYDAY 3. The game is being published by PLAION, who worked with Deep Silver in the past so I think that's where you're getting confused.
Edit: Nevermind, Deep Silver is involved with PAYDAY 3 but it's the same thing I said about PLAION. They're only the publishers.
@@thatbloodyrisk my thanks
@thatbloodyrisk bro deep silver is a Branch of plaion they literally own them they are the same lol deep sliver does have much to do with payday 3 they are the publisher plaion only operates the different publishers they have like prime matter deep silver and ravencourts different publishers and they been dropping bangers like dead island 2 lately.
Payday 3 is like waking up from a nightmare and realizing you have to go to a job that is somehow even worse than the nightmare
oh my god best answer right here
You ever have that nightmare where your dream was just a normal shift at your shit job then you wake up and realize the shift you just pulled wasn't real and now you have to do another shift
@@bogusjuan4998 what’s worse than that is when you dream you messed something up bad at work and go to work like damn today gonna suck and find out it was just a dream 😭
@@iainengland8058isn't that a good thing then
What’s wrong with payday 3?
The shareholders really heard “Payday” and thought it was talking about them, and not a game huh.
Underrated comment.
Shareholders are the worst thing to happen to gaming
I need to commend you for all the extra editing Fleek. You didn't have to do any of that, but let me tell you it was almost as good as a whole flock of busty nuns. Almost. YES SIR!
YES SIR!
YES SIR
YES SIR
oh shit the dfo guy
Well Budgeted Nuns.
Fleek called this out and nailed it. Dude is a prophet.
seems like he was actually wrong about alot of the negative parts games pretty legit so far and no cash shop
Sadly he's isn't, in this day and age its a given.
You played Payday 2 for just over 2700yrs. My hat is off to you, Sir. lol
That's light work
I bought on Steam for like 10 bucks, the whole thing with all DLC and played 1 hour.
@@marcust478 You don’t have fire in your belly, i guess. 🤷🏻♂️ 🤣 I checked out of either Payday 1 or 2 when i saw they had an H3H3 dlc. I was like, “wtf??” I deleted the games from my memory and forgot they existed.
@@Adarkane325xi LOL, I wanted to like and all...just, didn't worked for me I guess.
ironic they added denuvo while not giving a shit about cheating until now, and such a quarter-assed way to do it too. damn I hope nobody steals our game about bank robbing, wouldn't that be hilarious
the reason for using denuvo and the game being online only is clearly to actually make it impossible for people to use DLC unlockers and pirate the game. Basically ovk hasnt given a shit up until now, because they made all their cash out of DLC sales. Somehow they thought that was not enough and they felt the need to fuck everyone in the ass.
And if they didn't add denuvo and some mass case of hacking went on people would cry about it
Denuvo isn't a big deal unless you want it to be and frankly there's no reason for it to be
@@vallarfaxgaming while denuvo can be used for that purpose, its main objective is to prevent pirating the product, similar to account validation with online only.... to prevent hacking, the best mehtod is with client authority checks and enforcing server consistency, all things that can be done with 1 click in unreal engine, so no, denuvo is not there to prevent cheating in pd3. Besides, why would people cry? pd2 has had tons of cheaters for ages and nobody seems to care.
If you donwload a pirated version of Assassin's Creed 4, the protagonist says he's proud of you.
@@AlFredo-sx2yyCheaters that you'd never see thanks to the "auto kick cheaters button" AND the actual kick button available to the host if desired. Ironically, payday 2 got so boring even cheaters stopped playing it, that really is something. And speaking of cheaters, I gotta mention the cheater tag you'd get for using a dlc unlocker because you didn't feel like paying MAD Dosh for 90% of the content in-game just because the company almost went bankrupt and they gotta recover, which is their own fault.
I can honestly say I have not been this immersed in a RUclips video / channel in so long. The energy, the speed, the passion. I feel as though I have had an hours worth of entertainment in 11 and a half minutes. You're a different kind of buzz, keep doing what you do just the way you do it.
It's because you have ADHD and no attention span. Your entire generation is like this.
I agree. I really like this channel alot
3:40 R.I.P. me when you said "BEAR F**KER"! 🤣
Same here 🤣
There’s one part of this video that does miss the mark: the original creators comments. The version of PD2 that many players identify with is very different from the original version of PD2 that the OG studio heads intended. PD3 is made by many of the people behind the PD2 many current players know about and is more in line with the original vision of PD2 despite this.
Yeah, I played Payday 3 and it drastically removed the stat-gaming of 2 in favor of a more realistic approach like the first game.
Honestly, if it wasn't for the scummy business practices the game would be great, the beta was fun af
The company now is a skeleton crew compared to what they where, whoever put the soul in Payday 1 did not work on payday 2 and the people working on payday 3 did not work on payday 2 10 years ago.
Yep, they went back to the roots of PD:TH, which I've seem to be accepted as better than late PD2's copfest spam.
@@migueeeelet imo the roots was a tough as nails game that wasn't a joke, late game payday 2 lore is actually insane, and the content is recycled assets, reused objectives, and 3000 cops. Payday 1 doesn't even look like payday 2, payday 3 looks like any unreal 5 asset flip.
@@billforson3143 calling it a UE5 flip is being extremely uncharitable for what is some of the most satisfying FPS gameplay in years.
I found myself struggling to stop playing the game, even with the copious amounts of bugs in the beta that hindered progress. It is that "tough as nails" game the first one was, having replayed the first two for PD3.
Ulf Andersson is the only one of the brothers who had real contribution to the game design, and he was gone from the company in 2015 anyway. You wouldn't call Red Dead Redemption 2 soulless just because Leslie Benzies didn't work on it, would you? They still have guys like Martin Waern in the company, the development just isn't a product of Ulf's vision anymore.
Tbh, his last game GTFO wasn't exactly the greatest, anyway. It’s an amalgamation of good concepts executed poorly, much like launch-day Payday 2. He is far more apprehensive of microtransactions and other practices than recent Overkill, but to call the game soulless is just an insult to all the devs who worked hard on it.
Never in a million years would I have guessed that I would see a game review mixed with ADHD family feud. It’s the schizophrenic nautical nonsense that keeps me coming back to this channel.
Never seen a maxxor video?
@@Chi-Chi-Fy
Oh I’ve seen them. Lord knows I’ve seen them. I still have no idea what happened in the Ultrakill one, but the images are burned into my brain.
This video emptied my bank account and made my girlfriends pregnant!
Well, you predicted right, congrats
I have "only" 2029 hours in Payday 2 and i wasn't sure about getting 3. Mostly because, as was mentionet in the video, current devs aren't the same ones that made 2. But also because i'm not sure if they won't abandon 3 less than a year later like they did Raid WW2 (the only game that i ever pre-ordered, kinda don't regret it it's a fun game). But after this video i'm not sure if i will get it, the whole predatory elements list is a good reason to think about.
if you get slapped with all this garbage and still need to think about getting it, then you might be part of the reason why greedy corpos constantly get away with this
i need to think about it because iv'e been playing Payday 2 since 2013 and got over 2k hours in it, so no wonder devs got some trust credit from me@@hundkebab2433
@@hundkebab2433 spot on. its like the cod community when they bitch every year that cod sucks and then buy the super deluxe version whilst crying how bad it is. watching gamers is like watching an abusive couple whilst screaming "JUST LEAVE"
Real quick, as someone who’s no doubt hit the level cap a few times, is it a faster process if you re-up a few times or does the experience scale to match the bonus?
Legit can’t find any Info about it online.
@@ryanwood6754 It's the exact same with the NBA 2k playerbase, every year they spend 150 bucks on the ultimate edition and then swear it's the last 2k game they're ever going to buy, it's a big reason why all these AAA devs have gotten so comfortable with shitty and lazy practices, because idiots will still support them for some reason
7:58 comedy gold, perfect delivery
Oh my god, please re-do Fleek Feud in future. I loved that segment, you captured the spirit of that show so well!
Never preorder, never buy day 1, and never purchase microtransactions!
PS: Since the absolute disappointment that was Mass Effect 3.
do you mean Andromeda?
@@GloriousGruntnahh ME3 was a bit of a mess at launch from I’ve heard, it got better over time though it still has glaring issues
@@bcmm1880 glaring issues you mean… writing? Because since fixes and release of extended cut I never had a problem with this game outside of writing… and writing in me 3 still miles ahead comparing to andromeda especially when it comes to dialogues.
@@bcmm1880 oh, is it the ending? I honestly loved it when it came out, I missed the DLC but still had a blast
@@slammydunk9787 "Because since fixes and release of extended cut I never had a problem "
So it's ok to release a broken game on launch bc they "fixed it later"?
Troglodyte.
Wait, none of the original Payday 2 team is left in any meaningful numbers?
I don't even need to hear Denuvo, that's enough.
Coming here a day after release. Big oof lmao. Man on point
i am glad papa fleek's insanity has returned and honestly the family feud parody was the best :D
"If you're the one fellow that hasn't heard of the payday series because you're still trapped in a VC tunnel waiting out the Vietnam War I say stay in there" I had to pause the video here I couldn't hear shit over my laughter.
It's not Doomed, it's intented to fail. Obviously Overkill has a fetish for making bad decisions and almost going bankrupt
honestly i see it working
@@tillburr6799 yup, and I see em working on new skin packs worth 10 bucks each for PD3
typical swedish gamedev syndrome
i loved the game, so idk what you mean (ive played the early access release)
Never got into Payday but seeing 'Online Only' is a nail in the coffin for me already
What games do you play?
I just want to know why online only when you can still play solo would be a problem, bitching about living in countries with no wi-fi? Targikistan? Burundi? Bangladesh? Like why
@@clusokiller99I also dont understand the constant fear people have for online only, like do yall not have a good internet connection? Do you have constant internet issues? If so I can understand but if your internet is completely fine then what's the deal if you're gonna be on the internet anyways all the time.
I dont let these things bother me because when I am gaming the internet is actually on and if I suddenly have the internet go out sure I'll be annoyed but I'll either wait it out for it to come back or play one of my offline games in the meantime.
@@pleasedontkillme1185 exactly, i just don't get the point of why people has gone mad for this online only, cause in future if they close the servers you wil not be able to play? They are already scared 10 years or who knows before they shut down payday servers and the game is not even out. 🤣
@@clusokiller99Because if the servers randomly decide to fail or OVK wants to do maintenance on them you can't use the product you've paid for.
It must have been nice, actually being able to play the game I mean, 3 days in and I'm not even convinced I downloaded the right game
Fr I have been in the loading screen all day
I give a year, two tops, after Payday 3 releases that they announce more Payday 2 DLC.
That would be the dumbest shit ever, spending resources on something no one plays anymore and expecting a comeback from it, if anything they're gonna flood payday 3 with micro transactions
@@dr3amless345 "No one plays anymore."
Current playercount in-game on Steam at 7 AM: 48,515.
Dude, maybe you should actually check numbers before you make yourself look like an even bigger idiot.
Have watched and enjoyed many of the videos on your channel.
I liked Payday 2 for a while, but eventually it got old when I realized there were only about 6-7 missions that were viable to stealth (regular bank, shadow raid, Firestarter, the jewelry store missions, and only a few others). Due to only being able to answer 4 pagers and having craploads more guards to deal with than that, and few effective ways to track them that didn't risk being detected.
The new one throwing in Denuvo, a cash shop, and being always online though... big oof.
Great video by the way.
I remember when it was only 2 pagers and 4 with skill... PER PLAYER. They got rid of it fast after realising what they've done.
Essentially spent $5 to misrepresent stealth in PayDay 2
@@HarleyMM1328 Stealth was and always will be garbage anyway.
@@BDozer666 it's so mind-numbing to play the game in one way, why not do both stealth and loud. Keeps things interesting.
@@HarleyMM1328 why don’t we all just play the way we like with the product we bought
Fleek’s opinion aged like fine wine 🍷
Guess I'll be grinding shadow raid for another 4 years...
I love fleek Harvey, hope he comes back
This is honestly the best video you have ever made. I also notice most of the really positive previews are from content creators who popped up out of the blue in the last year or so and were propped up by overkill and given special access to the game. When I wanted to see previews and looked up pd3 on yt it was all literal fucking who people who were flown out to play it in Sweden.
I mean I got special treatment when it came to the beta for no god damn reason except I complained, and then i complained about the xp problem and they fixed that as well.
I thought the beta was decent, that bank had heavy vibes from the bank heist in payday 2, like the whole map layout was very familiar and considering i farmed that heist stealth hundreds of times i felt at home in the one map they gave us access to.
But the catch is I'm not Gunna buy the game cuz I'm getting it free with game pass, I have no stakes in this. And even if I were to buy the game, at least it's only $40 as opposed to the $70 most current gen games are going for. I really wish I could play by myself offline though, that would be a reason to buy the game. I bought payday 2 three times for myself and four times for friends so I wouldn't mind spending money if the quality is there. But since it's online only I won't be spending money on it.
I like yakuza and need for speed more
are u sure you saw only the youtubers that popped up last year? I saw mortifer, generalmcbadass, hollow, kknowley and a few others from my own country and people that played other games, all of these people have been making content for many years, most of them at least 5 years
@@garbage2882 Yep. Not sure why this guy is complaining about it.
What about people like MarioInATopHat or The KKnowley? They liked the beta a lot from what Ive heard and theyve also been open about their gripes with Payday & OVERKILL
Another amazing banger as always FLEEK. That Family Fued skit was so on point. The best part i might say. Loved it 😊
Having the beetle joke twice in 20 seconds made me crack up. Didnt expect that. Gj papa fleek
So the release was spectacular for console. Some of the worst controls, lots of crashes and dead matchmaking, what an experience
It’s just the way it is.
It is what it is: the way it is.
Welp. Not playing Payday 3 then.
3:34 is peak comedy for someone who has no context.
"Payday 3 is better than 2 because we can close doors"
Spot on
Man your editing and Humor is just on another level, you are one of my favorite youtubers when it comes to cheering me up. You NEVER fail to make me laugh man!
We need a Family Fued Stream from Fleek soon and Yes there's a Family Fued game
I was afraid of Payday 3 being doomed from the start when Update 237 came out, The radio silence was concerning, but a couple of days after the update they released the gameplay trailer for PD3.
Did they mention anything about the crossplay problem? No. but as soon as premium currency for the game leaked onto the Epic game stores, they were QUICK to defend that it was "only going to be cosmetic".
ok thats cool, what about the crossplay problem? No? ok. they only announced it like a week after the PD3 trailer released but even then, they blame that the main reason why PD2 no longer had linux support was because the OS was "using an outdated version of the PD2 engine" which is bullshit because if that were the case, then wouldn't Linux support stop after 100 updates ago before Epic crossplay?
These were to me early signs of worse things to come and I was very concerned about the future of the Payday franchise. But when I made a video talking about some of my concerns for the game, many of the blind consumers told me "not judge a game before it comes out", and these are the same people praising it despite them probably not getting access to the beta to say otherwise.
So judging it is wrong, but praising it is perfectly fine? Wtf kind of hypocrisy is that?
Fleek, I pray for your safety after making this video. I hope you don't have to go through the month of constant death threats and other comments that get filtered out of the comment section by default. I'm happy that someone was at least able to shine more light on the situation about PD3's problems even before it's launch. There are no wrong opinions in what you said, only facts. Don't listen to the blind consumers.
Well... there goes any hype i had for payday 3 😢
Ah yes because some random youtuber with less than 500k subs who isn't an insider for OVK should somehow be able to speak as if he knows what's going on 😂😂
The game is going to succeed or fail regardless of whatever some random tuber says
You should still form your own opinion on it regardless. I found the video entertaining and informative but I'm probably still gonna get payday 3 if it turns out to be good at least (buying it day 1 however? no, not to mention I don't even have the money for that). Gameplay wise it seems still very good but how they handle monetization is definitely something to be very wary of.
@@vallarfaxgaming are you illiterate? he never mentioned the youtuber having an impact on the game he is just saying why he thinks the beta is bad
@@vallarfaxgaming It is going to succeed because people don't know how to spend their money. If no one bought Payday 3, we could have the best Payday game ever created.
@@vallarfaxgamingthis Mf is shilling this game across all of RUclips
Such a sad existence you lead
Why do I get the feeling doing coffee before watching your reviews would make them even better?
Yes Sir!
That's exactly what I did
I'll admit, I don't have 2717 years worth of playtime on Payday 2 like you do.
i dont think devs understand the level of competition they are dealing with and how valuable a loyal fanbase is and will become
payday 3's probably gonna be good gameplay wise, but man some of the choices the devs are manking sure don't inspire confidence
Fleek Feud is something I didn't even know I wanted, but I gotta see more!
Denuvo should only be a security company the heisters need to get passed, not a game breaking “anti piracy” garbage software in payday 3
i need him saying "bear fucker" in a clip i need it for an inside joke me and a friend have from the time he played as a druid and needed to get into an eladrin nobles tower
This aged well... rip PD3
Is the game dead?
I've played Payday and Payday 2 forever but after playing the closed beta I'm legitimately looking forward to the full game
It looks awesome
a lot of progress is shown, the only actual problems this video showed is the always online DRM which I guess is needed for the crossplay? who knows, but I hope they make it like Payday 2 with offline mode
@@garbage2882darktide 2.0 no reason a HORDE SHOOTER shouldn't have offline Access
t@@Gage-bk7cn that's exactly what I said
@@garbage2882 you said you hope for an offline im stating now it's deplorable for a horde shooter to not have offline implementation on release
You called it bro.
You are hands down one of my favorite RUclipsrs, you consistently make me bust out laughing 😂
I need more fleek feud.
I just realised
Mfer you sleeping in a 40k space marine armour in a lightning McQueen racing car bed?!?!
I'm curious if it's the actual Denuvo Anti-Tamper or just their new anti-cheat they've been peddling.
Edit: it's both
So this is the infamous Family Feud video, huh? Was worth the wait.
Pay day! Seriously?🤨
The survey questions are usually ridiculous, but this time, they asked the right crowd.
Ok this may seem bad but i need you guys to remember THE GAME IS NOT OUT YET don’t completely write off a game you havent played yet and havent came out yet because of a 11 minute long video DONT BE SHEEP
How'd that work out for ya?
I know it's been a month since PD3 was released but I keep coming back here because this is the funniest video you've ever made. Please bring back Fleek Feud.
That's a shame considering I have 3k hours in Payday 2.
Looks like I will be giving this a pass entirely or at least until their noses are bloody enough to remove all the anti-consumer features.
@@KK-my6hw deleted my comments because I realized I was wrong, sorry for the arguements, it'd be wise if you deleted yours too so people don't get confused and start asking what this is about, but yeah sorry for the arguements, I've had some time to critically think about it and I agree with you.
@@dr3amless345 Sure, I think we were both coming from different angles and didn't fully clarify them for several posts.
@@KK-my6hw that and I may have been a bit ignorant, but it's done, and I do hope payday 3 will be enjoyable for both of us, have a good one till then.
We need more Fleek Feud
It completely shat itself on launch
This has been the most chaotic Fleekazoid video I’ve seen and I, personally, am loving it.
This guy's humour is right up my alley and I love it 😂
Will this be another Overkill's The Walking Dead situation? The suspense is killing me!
Bro your videos get more and more insane. Keep it up.
I am that VC in the tunnel and have no idea what I'm watching.
Thanks for keeping it real as always fleek
I think I'll be shield surfacing my way into oblivion
this dude has been playing payday 2 since julius caesar was fucking cleopatra
I stealthed goat hiest by having 2 of my friends burn every living breathing thing in a 10 block radius payday 2 star of approval
"well if youre this chick you know" is a relatively obscure reference i didnt expect to hear
6:25 made my day
What is the song's name?
you should get rims for your car bed, or maybe a cb radio so you can talk to other people with car beds, maybe a stereo
Is it just me or did this channel go from like 40k to 140k in less than a year?
Yeah, it did. Dude totally deserves it too.
Let us close doors in payday 2 pimps
I actually refunded my pre-order because of this always online BS.
God bless all the *pimps* that pay him that allows me to watch for free because I'm poor.
Thanks pimps👍
That Fleek-Fued bit was great. Thanks for that.
A Jeff Dunham reference at 2:45? Really?
There's a reason why badger hasn't uploaded his play thru of this game
has he even actually played it ?
The sheer lack of content and charging only "$40" for base game but $50 for a WHOLE YEAR 1 SEASON PASS.
Is just criminal.
They haven't learned from their old ways, especially not in ye olde stealth desync department
40 bucks for 7 launch maps, and 6 characters, on top of like 20 guns, is pretty solid, except if youre broke 🤣
I get tired of watching people bitch about not having enough money for a "want". Especially when it's 40 dollars, or on gamepass with a subscription you probably already have.
It's a video game, if you can't afford them then maybe you need to recheck your priorities.
If you're too young to get a job, well kiddo, this is a mature rated title anyway.
wow, its almost like people don't want to piss away money for a game that's goanna be shit, and will need 1000+ dollars to own everything, and people like spending money they have left over on things they like because it makes them happy, who would have thunk?
really, 40 dollars for any game now is crazy, let alone forking more just to get at most, 3 hours of extra content is stupid.@@thewhistler6537
Fleek Feud was amazing.
Good video.
I'm baffled by the fact that this decently average game is getting a sequel, let alone one that ticks all these boxes. It's simply insane on a level beyond anything I could even begin to consider reasonable. Makes me disappointed by the state of games (and the world at large).
then explain why people playing the closed beta say the game is amazing if its so bad?
@@yourlocalidiot4085 Did I say the game was bad?
No, I said it was decently average. And since Payday 3 is essentially Payday 2 but with minor changes, then Payday 3 is also decently average.
Even so, the quality of the game cannot be gaged from the beta, especially not this particular beta, because this one barely has any content, doesn't feature progression or the cash shop so we can't know whether or not the situation is going to be truly dire or it will just suck, and the fact that one needs to make accounts on external websites to play this Always Online DENUVO protected game is enough of an indicator that things are going to suck.
Just handle accounts through Steam, remove Denuvo (since it negatively impacts performance) and it might not even be that proper to moan about the game, if the microtransactions are "reasonable".
If the game maintains the Denuvo+external website registration+features nasty microtransactions, it would not matter how good the gameplay is, because the overall experience would be thoroughly ruined by the presence of those things.
idk why you're baffled. 20-50k concurrent players on a 10 yr old game = primed for a sequel. I do agree about the anti-consumer practices though. payday 2 was bad enough and looks like they're going all in with payday 3 so I definitely wont be buying it because of that
@@j-swag7438 I'm baffled, because the game seems perfectly playable and presentable in its current form. It gets updates very regularly and, as we can see from what PayDay 3 has to offer so far, there is not much room for innovation in the formula.
It's like buying a new spoon because your old spoon is still in perfect condition and is clean, but you're under the impression that it's old and you need a new spoon. Pointless.
@gemsimov I think most people enjoy the idea of a sequel because the other 10 year old game is held together by duct tape and spit otherwise known as the God aweful and very limiting Diesel Engine. Overkill did their damn best with it for all these years, basically working straight up goddamn magic to get an engine made for driving games to spit out and maintain an fps co-op shooter, but it's about time they trade up for something better and helluva lot easier to work with. I mean, this whole sequel want started with people just being sick of the diesel engine and it's constant problems, limitations, and poor optimization. With this game now on Unreal, they might have to start from scratch, but it'll be better in the long run, should the game's other apparent issues not shoot it in the leg before it can even start.
I seriously don't understand why games keep adding denuvo when literally *everyone* fucking hates it. Like are you *asking* for bad publicity?
I'm so glad one of my favourite pimps is an avid Payday 2 veteren. I already knew when I heard "Break the Rules" soundtrack in the background, something a casual reviewer wouldn't slap on without knowing.
I've been wanting a Payday 3 for a while because as much as i loved 2 the diesel engine and how stealth worked kind of sucked. It's a shame that denuvo and other bad practices are being used but its probably due to Overkill almost going bankrupt and signing a big deal with the overlord of their publisher and trying to secure their money. They might do what they did with Metro Exodus and remove it later but probably won't and will use it as an anti cheat.
I was going to wait on it anyways till a massive sale because it doesn't interest me much anymore and would rather see how it progresses
Wait so it's gonna be another paid live service game?
Bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
@@simplysmiley4670"paid live service"
It has a season pass which isn't time limited like battle passes are
It has a premium currency for cosmetic items which is entirely optional and the c-stacks can only be bought with earned cash, so I really don't see what your issue is
It's frankly a whole lot tamer than some modern day games
@@vallarfaxgamingwhat are c-stacks? Does that shit work like continental coins? And then you buy cosmetics with them?
@@dr3amless345I think so yeah, from my understanding you buy c stacks from the cash you earn playing the game and then you can use those c stacks to buy other stuff and the more you buy in a week the more expensive they get and the price on them resets every week.
@@dr3amless345 yeah, essentially they are continental coins
10/10 want to watch another family pimp feud again
it'd survive off the modding scene and thats it. Also I wish they'd make it so cleanup fees are pinned onto the killer not the whole team, cause nothing is more annoying than booting them and being down a gun.
Loving this new Fleek Feud show
Man, this fleek.... it fleeks hard, and I like it.
what a launch lololol
I had some great chuckles watching this video. Great editing, keep it up!
For anyone wondering, the song in the background is Pimped Out Getaway.
You out-did yourself on this one PIMP