The dimenesions are on the amazon page for the dimmer but its 32mm deep so yes it will need the deeper type (46mm) mounting box not the very slim ones. Not sure what you mean by "what about other rooms" ...if the depth of wall you have can't take the deeper box then yes it would be unsuitable luckily I have the depth in my wall.
Hi domsony....you can only wire one circuit in as it's single gang....whatever set of lights its connected to is the only thing that is controllable...you can't control different lamps to switch individually...you would need the multi gang switch shown at the beginning of the vid for that ( the one I bought in error)....that one could switch 3 seperate circuits but not dim them
Hi Tom, great video. Just wondering something. One of the reviews on Amazon for this product stated that it wasn’t UKCA-compliant and was therefore “illegal” to use in the UK. I’m no electrician and was therefore keen to see what your thoughts are on the safety of this switch?
Hi Ian...thanks for the kind words. Re the switch....I think some people get obsessed with UKCA compliancy and kite/CE marks. As you say "illegal" is a very strong word...if it was "illegal" surely it wouldn't be for sale on Amazon UK. Looking through the Q&A's I found this "Question: Does this meet all UK safety standards? Answer: The product has passed the CE certification and Comply with IEC60669 specification. By LANBON Smart Living DIY Club" The way I look at it (and I may be wrong) is that just because an item doesn't have CA compliance (formerly the CE mark) it doesn't automatically mean it is of poor quality or dangerous...I will bet that everybody (inc that reviewer) has at least one electrical item in their house like a wall plug charger/bluetooth speaker/headphones/etc etc that hasn't got a CE/CA mark. These companies sell worldwide and the UK is just 1 small market and to get full certification in every country would prob cost many thousands of pounds. All I can say is it looks well made ...nothing shouts out "cheap tat" like some electrical items I have seen and it has worked brilliantly every day from day one ...it's great to just be in the recliner in the man shed watching TV and just say "alexa...set dimmer at 10% etc :) Like you I am no electrician but have worked with electrics all my life inc 42 years as a registered gas engineer so can usually spot the iffy items. So that's just my opinion but I love it.
Indeed. The UKCA is the post-brexit faff and the fact that the product meets CE standards is reassuring since that's the pre-brexit version. As you say, plenty of companies aren't going to bother with this new UK only labelling for a tiny part of their worldwide market. @@TomsManShed
Hi Tom, great video and very informative, thank you. I have purchased the smart switch to replace a 1 gang switch in the bedroom. When I came to install the smart switch, I have 3 wires - live, neutral and earth. How would I connect the smart switch using these wires please? I know this may sound like a silly question, but I am unsure. Thank you in advance for any help.
Hi Reece...thanks for the kind words. Re your question....without actually seeing your wiring I wouldn't be able to say which wire is connected to what but normally for a bog standard switch it would just interrupt the live wire...IE have just 2 connections...live in and live out. The neutral wire to the lamp/lamps would connect to the rest of the neutrals as would the earth if the lamp requires an earth or for a metal switch etc I have seen some instances where the blue (or older black) wire is used as the switched live out and the brown (or older red) as the live in to save on wire but this is bad practice. This switch though DOES require a neutral to it as it it is permanently connected to the mains due to it having WiFi and a screen etc so needs it's own power supply even when lights are off.....the switch itself doesn't need an earth ...but your lamps might. so basically you would run your live and neutral (if indeed your neutral wire is a neutral wire and not as mentioned above) to the switch and then a switched live out to your lamp/lamps. Like I say though without actually being there I couldn't say what your wiring is...if in doubt call a qualified electrician is the only advice I can give.....hope this helps .
@@TomsManShed Hi Tom, thank you so much for your reply, it is a great help and I really appreciate this. Love your videos, keep up the good work. Best wishes, Reece.
Hello Tom, do you know if I had 4 of these dimmer switches, could they be turned on and off individually with the lanbon 4 gang switch, ie can the dimmers and standard on/off switches control each other. Thanks, Richard.
Hi Richard....Sorry but don't know the answer to that...I cant find the instruction leaflet but cant remember seeing it mentioned ...It MAY be possible as when I control mine with Alexa or the "Smart Life" app I have it as "Dimmer Switch" so maybe you could call different ones by different names Like Lounge Dimmer....Bedroom Dimmer etc as I would think they all have their own WIFI identifier. But like I say I don't know for a fact...trouble is with it not being a big brand I don't know what their after sales is like so wouldn't be surprised if you got no answer from them if you asked. I will add though that it has been great and I love sitting in my lay z boy in the shed just saying ..."Alexa set dimmer to 40%" etc :) ...sorry I couldn't help more.
Thanks for your help. I agree it's hard to find any information on their products, I've ordered a 4 gang switch and a dimmer, so I'll give it a go. Thanks.
@@iis4isaac Just checking through some of my messages so sorry for long delay...yes would be interesting how Richard went on but thinking about it....if the individual dimmer switches were turned on by the 4 gang smart switch there would be a delay before the lights they are controlling came on ....because with the dimmers having no power to them until turned on by the main 4 gang switched then the wifi connection would have to "boot up" I have just tried it by turning off the power to the dimmer then back on and there is about a 3 second delay till the lights come back (they come back on at the last dimness setting they were on) and about a further 2 seconds when the screen says "initialising" before you can control them via the switch.....so pretty quick re connection so yes if you can live with that delay and the total load of all the rooms doesn't exceed the rating of the main 4 gang switch I would say it would be feasible ...BUT as always best getting advice from a qualified electrician. BTW 1 year on and the switch has been great
This is not a 3 gang! Its a 1 gang with 3 switches! A 3 gang has 3 electrical boxes each with a white, black, and ground! So the real question is....how do you go from a true 3 gang to this! This has room for 1 black 1 white, amd 3 loads. A true gamg will have 3 blacks, 3 whites, and 3 grounds! One for each switch! And another question what if you have a regular switch and a dimmer switch next to that?!?!
The 1st part of the video between 03:11 and 5:05 is explaining that I ordered the wrong switch from amazon which WAS a 3 gang switch (not dimmer) .....so I had to return it and order the single gang dimmer..the one reviewed in this video . At 7:00 I show the wrong one fitted and set up for just 1 switch ....I also put in the red time line below "I bought the wrong one" for this section. Between 8:00 and 9:00 I show the difference between the 3 gang switch (the one bought in error that I returned) and the single gang dimmer in this review. From googling "gang" refers to the number of switches on the plate and since the 1st one (the one bought in error) was capable of switching 3 circuits I would think that it could be referred to as 3 gang since it will have had the 3 blacks 3 whites and 3 grounds you mention. I show the back of this dimmer at about 11:00 and say it looked like the back of the 1st (3 gang) one but I had already packed away that one for return so on closer examination it may well have had the 3 blacks,whites,and grounds you mention.
Seems a very deep recess for the backing plate. What about other rooms, that's what I'm interested in how that works
The dimenesions are on the amazon page for the dimmer but its 32mm deep so yes it will need the deeper type (46mm) mounting box not the very slim ones.
Not sure what you mean by "what about other rooms" ...if the depth of wall you have can't take the deeper box then yes it would be unsuitable luckily I have the depth in my wall.
Can you add other alexa devices to the display, eg table lamp and use the display to turn that on and off via alexa
Hi domsony....you can only wire one circuit in as it's single gang....whatever set of lights its connected to is the only thing that is controllable...you can't control different lamps to switch individually...you would need the multi gang switch shown at the beginning of the vid for that ( the one I bought in error)....that one could switch 3 seperate circuits but not dim them
May I know if you have tried using the mutual control to link two of them together in order to create a physical two way via the app using WiFi?
Hi Kelvin Sorry but I only have the one in my Man Shed so can't answer that...all I can say is it's been great and is still working fine
its ok and thank you so much for your reply@@TomsManShed
Hi Tom, great video. Just wondering something. One of the reviews on Amazon for this product stated that it wasn’t UKCA-compliant and was therefore “illegal” to use in the UK.
I’m no electrician and was therefore keen to see what your thoughts are on the safety of this switch?
Hi Ian...thanks for the kind words.
Re the switch....I think some people get obsessed with UKCA compliancy and kite/CE marks.
As you say "illegal" is a very strong word...if it was "illegal" surely it wouldn't be for sale on Amazon UK.
Looking through the Q&A's I found this
"Question:
Does this meet all UK safety standards?
Answer:
The product has passed the CE certification and Comply with IEC60669 specification.
By LANBON Smart Living DIY Club"
The way I look at it (and I may be wrong) is that just because an item doesn't have CA compliance (formerly the CE mark) it doesn't automatically mean it is of poor quality or dangerous...I will bet that everybody (inc that reviewer) has at least one electrical item in their house like a wall plug charger/bluetooth speaker/headphones/etc etc that hasn't got a CE/CA mark.
These companies sell worldwide and the UK is just 1 small market and to get full certification in every country would prob cost many thousands of pounds.
All I can say is it looks well made ...nothing shouts out "cheap tat" like some electrical items I have seen and it has worked brilliantly every day from day one ...it's great to just be in the recliner in the man shed watching TV and just say "alexa...set dimmer at 10% etc :)
Like you I am no electrician but have worked with electrics all my life inc 42 years as a registered gas engineer so can usually spot the iffy items.
So that's just my opinion but I love it.
Great review and finally installing these with my Led strips… wish me luck :D
Indeed. The UKCA is the post-brexit faff and the fact that the product meets CE standards is reassuring since that's the pre-brexit version. As you say, plenty of companies aren't going to bother with this new UK only labelling for a tiny part of their worldwide market. @@TomsManShed
Hi Tom, great video and very informative, thank you. I have purchased the smart switch to replace a 1 gang switch in the bedroom. When I came to install the smart switch, I have 3 wires - live, neutral and earth. How would I connect the smart switch using these wires please? I know this may sound like a silly question, but I am unsure. Thank you in advance for any help.
Hi Reece...thanks for the kind words.
Re your question....without actually seeing your wiring I wouldn't be able to say which wire is connected to what but normally for a bog standard switch it would just interrupt the live wire...IE have just 2 connections...live in and live out.
The neutral wire to the lamp/lamps would connect to the rest of the neutrals as would the earth if the lamp requires an earth or for a metal switch etc
I have seen some instances where the blue (or older black) wire is used as the switched live out and the brown (or older red) as the live in to save on wire but this is bad practice.
This switch though DOES require a neutral to it as it it is permanently connected to the mains due to it having WiFi and a screen etc so needs it's own power supply even when lights are off.....the switch itself doesn't need an earth ...but your lamps might.
so basically you would run your live and neutral (if indeed your neutral wire is a neutral wire and not as mentioned above) to the switch and then a switched live out to your lamp/lamps.
Like I say though without actually being there I couldn't say what your wiring is...if in doubt call a qualified electrician is the only advice I can give.....hope this helps .
@@TomsManShed Hi Tom, thank you so much for your reply, it is a great help and I really appreciate this. Love your videos, keep up the good work. Best wishes, Reece.
Hello Tom, do you know if I had 4 of these dimmer switches, could they be turned on and off individually with the lanbon 4 gang switch, ie can the dimmers and standard on/off switches control each other. Thanks, Richard.
Hi Richard....Sorry but don't know the answer to that...I cant find the instruction leaflet but cant remember seeing it mentioned ...It MAY be possible as when I control mine with Alexa or the "Smart Life" app I have it as "Dimmer Switch" so maybe you could call different ones by different names Like Lounge Dimmer....Bedroom Dimmer etc as I would think they all have their own WIFI identifier.
But like I say I don't know for a fact...trouble is with it not being a big brand I don't know what their after sales is like so wouldn't be surprised if you got no answer from them if you asked.
I will add though that it has been great and I love sitting in my lay z boy in the shed just saying ..."Alexa set dimmer to 40%" etc :) ...sorry I couldn't help more.
Thanks for your help. I agree it's hard to find any information on their products, I've ordered a 4 gang switch and a dimmer, so I'll give it a go. Thanks.
@@richardparry6488 How did it turn out? I've been thinking about adding a dimmer and wasn't sure if I could use mutual control.
@@iis4isaac Just checking through some of my messages so sorry for long delay...yes would be interesting how Richard went on but thinking about it....if the individual dimmer switches were turned on by the 4 gang smart switch there would be a delay before the lights they are controlling came on ....because with the dimmers having no power to them until turned on by the main 4 gang switched then the wifi connection would have to "boot up"
I have just tried it by turning off the power to the dimmer then back on and there is about a 3 second delay till the lights come back (they come back on at the last dimness setting they were on) and about a further 2 seconds when the screen says "initialising" before you can control them via the switch.....so pretty quick re connection so yes if you can live with that delay and the total load of all the rooms doesn't exceed the rating of the main 4 gang switch I would say it would be feasible ...BUT as always best getting advice from a qualified electrician.
BTW 1 year on and the switch has been great
This is not a 3 gang! Its a 1 gang with 3 switches! A 3 gang has 3 electrical boxes each with a white, black, and ground!
So the real question is....how do you go from a true 3 gang to this! This has room for 1 black 1 white, amd 3 loads. A true gamg will have 3 blacks, 3 whites, and 3 grounds! One for each switch!
And another question what if you have a regular switch and a dimmer switch next to that?!?!
The 1st part of the video between 03:11 and 5:05 is explaining that I ordered the wrong switch from amazon which WAS a 3 gang switch (not dimmer) .....so I had to return it and order the single gang dimmer..the one reviewed in this video .
At 7:00 I show the wrong one fitted and set up for just 1 switch ....I also put in the red time line below "I bought the wrong one" for this section.
Between 8:00 and 9:00 I show the difference between the 3 gang switch (the one bought in error that I returned) and the single gang dimmer in this review.
From googling "gang" refers to the number of switches on the plate and since the 1st one (the one bought in error) was capable of switching 3 circuits I would think that it could be referred to as 3 gang since it will have had the 3 blacks 3 whites and 3 grounds you mention.
I show the back of this dimmer at about 11:00 and say it looked like the back of the 1st (3 gang) one but I had already packed away that one for return so on closer examination it may well have had the 3 blacks,whites,and grounds you mention.