HAHA! You know you don't have to hit enter after you type, right? You can make several comments, and watch rest of video, and making closing remarks. Or multiple seperate comments, the problem is he will only see latest one so might miss a few if they are seperate.
Oh shit! Awesome! Yeah… it sounds like this guy has reposted it all around the country. We’ve flagged this one several times, but it’s still up. Anyway I’m doing my part. Haha. Thanks!
@@DeadDodgeGarageI just got done flagging it, no idea how he has some of those pics unless he creeped my profile on Facebook from my marketplace ad. Thanks again for pointing this out, have a great night!
Mechanic, musician, public servant. I knew I liked this channel for a reason! I also love the squiggles over plate numbers. Literally thousands of people can see your license plate every day on the road. Putting it online isn’t gonna hurt anything.
@@DeadDodgeGarage eye sorta got ripped buying a 73 chall. still have it, 14 yrs ago.. it was in rio linda, cali, 17k.. 340 r/t clone. the one advertised was a 440 leather r/t.. with about a 5 page spill. that should of raised 10 red flags, plus i tried to get it ''looked'' at. twice, no fkr home... anyhoo. i bought it. replaced steering gear, suspension, had dash gauges re done. bought sht loads for it 12 yrs ago when import mail was cheap.. new tank 140. mint dash top 150. 71 grill 150.. plus got indi , marker lites.. it drove no probs when bought, but, the reg dept here is like hitler with 5000 jews & blacks.. has to be 100% original, back then.. not now.. 100% original.??.. are they fkn kidding... its 1973.. ausie..
@@DeadDodgeGarage yes me.. was originally after a ''bb'' mustang f/back. i realised then, theres basically cars for o/s [ over seas] sale, & local..especially with mustangs. 90%, were junk, dolled up..
@@DeadDodgeGarage same sht here in aus.. there was a pantera. 40k.. ''guy worked so much never used it''.. gave me co he worked for. i rang ''them''. nope, no one here by that name..plus the guy said, you buy car, if your not happy within 4 wks, ill refund & pay for transport.. ??.. uuuhh.. nope..
I had a story to share. I was looking for a 2nd gen Cummins powered pickup. I found one on Ebay. Nice looking truck. 1996 3500 dually, 2 wd. Starting bid, $8k. I thought, what the heck? I was the first & only bidder! He didn't ask for a deposit. I told him I'd bring cash. I drove 3 states to get it & it was legit! I turned in my rental car & drove this beauty back home without issues! This was 2 years ago. I've still got it & I won't be letting it go any time soon! So there are deals out there by legitimate folks. Love your Cummins! 👍 Just wanted to share. Take care!
There is no question there are legit deals out there on the internet. And I would argue that eBay is one of the best places to find them, because the seller has to pay money to list it there. Also, two years ago, I was trying to sell a 2000 Ram 2500 Cummins automatic 4x4. Mostly great looking truck with high miles. I couldn’t get $9000 for that one and ended up trading it, because those trucks were absolutely in the toilet due to insane diesel prices at that time. And this wasn’t long after paying $14,000 for my third gen… I think you got a good deal! But it doesn’t surprise me.
I bought my 64 Valiant on FB Marketplace and drove from Michigan to Tennessee to pick it up. Dude was legit, car was as described, I've still got my Valiant and everybody was happy. But you have to keep your wits about you and don't bet what you can't afford to lose.
I wonder how many people have lost money on that car so far? Truly unfortunate. The listing is right in my back yard too. My first clue was the price followed by the style of houses behind it. We don’t have houses like that here. Glad you and your subscriber figured it out before he lost money on it. Good reminder for us all! If it’s too good to be true, it usually is.
@@DeadDodgeGaragethis is where the whole buy a car in cash gets sketchy. Now you’ve announced you have $10k in a bundle or $30k. Gives me bad vibes. You need to be with people and exercising your 2nd amendment rights but reality is you just don’t know unless you already know the neighborhood; as in local.
Every time I see that generation Charger my shoulders and arms hurt from remembering prepping one for paint and block sanding the 1/8 mile long quarter panels back in 1973 or 4.... Oh the joy of being a helper/intern as a teen.
I’ve been very lucky in both of my online, sight-unseen classic Mopar car purchases and (so far) buying a 273 for the Valiant. The key is walk away from it as soon as anything doesn’t pass the smell test, and go through an escrow service to protect yourself and the other party (no deposit/hold fee sent). Thank you for putting videos like this together to help everybody out.
I had a very nice older Sea Ray cruiser for sale and I was contacted by a potential buyer in New Orleans. He has relatives in the Louisville Kentucky area where I live and he asked if he could send his cousin over to see the boat. I said sure and his cousin came over and basically kicked tires and admitted he knew nothing about boats. I just told him that I knew he was here to make sure I wasn’t a scammer and he laughed and said that yes - that’s exactly why he was here. Anyway, I did sell the boat to his cousin so happy ending all around. Not *that* kind of happy ending. Sheesh.
Great video and info Jamie, same thing is happening in Massachusetts right now with a guy selling a bunch of high end Mopars with waaaay too low price tags. Buyers BEWARE!!!
I’m thankful that this video came up because I plan to get into the market to find a 69 Charger to restore in a year or two. For funsies I came across this listing on eBay. You’re doing the community a favor calling these fraudsters out!
i love where you said "if you know who they are, if they have a reputation that you can verify". i recently found a "too good to be true" deal on a 1978 D150...when i pulled up, the seller had 3 dodge B series vans, multiple PT cruisers (?!) and his name was hemi head fred. i knew i had found the right guy to buy an old truck from :)
Well done! Funny thing, I bought a Triumph Motorcycle and sidecar off the internet. Suspicious arose when it was also on the sidecar companies web site. No deposit needed, just bring certified check and trailer or helmet. Buddy of mine when up to get it. WAs priced way. way to cheap, so wanted to be ready for anything. What did I get, exactly what was advertised for half of what it is worth, because the dude needed the money... Felt guilty, until he started asking about BMW GS motorcycles... So it does happen, but uh, normally, what Jamie said.
If I can't physically put my hands on the car and see the title to match it to the vin I wont even entertain making an offer. Maybe its because I'm old and this is how we did it but it has served me well for a lot of years. Nice catch on this scam artist. Keep up the great work...🤓
I’ve done a whole lot of negotiating via internet and phone conversations before buying. If you want to make a deal on these things, you have to be on it. The competition is stiff…
@@DeadDodgeGarage I totally get that and for certain types of deals I will buy without being present but for big purchases (like over a couple hundred bucks) I need to see and touch what I'm buying. Seen more then my fair share of people getting scammed on vehicles. Don't even get me started on classic car lots and the tricks they use. lol.
Jamie I am so happy I bought my cars back in the 80s when they were plentiful and you could go look at them there was lots of them for sale within five 600 miles of a year and yeah I got blessed with some nice cars but I tell you nowadays it's sad to see what some people pay for stuff and I just can't believe the deceiving people out there sad good job on the explanation of the situation here and thank you for the video
Just came across your channel a couple weeks ago. Was a Mopar guy a long time ago, but have been getting the urge lately to get one. Checked out a 318 powered 66 Charger a couple weeks back, but unfortunately it was going to be too much work. I really like your dead pan humour and imagine if I ever had a YT channel it would he very similar to yours. I cuss waay too much as well when wrenching. Lol!
Easiest way to tell if it's a good deal or a scam is ask for in person with cash then ask when and where you can meet. Watch them ghost and block you or actually find it's a good deal.
In person only thanks, I need to be able to lick the bugs on the windshield and taste the oil from the dipstick while the owner questions my purchasing approach. This is how you buy a charger, this is why I have a charger!
Somebody getting scammed on a car could potentially turn them off from the classic car hobby, and that's horrible. I've bought 1 sight unseen (in person) myself....but I am POSITIVE the seller is a straight shooter.
You can also see ads saying " Ran when I parked it " or " needs starter " You can't drive or start it because the motor or tranny are blown . The owner will swear up & down it runs great . Also I'm a computer dinosaur and not to savvy and I've sold many items on craigs list using my 20 year old potato .
There is a reliable list of goofy things people put in ads that are code for other things. One of my personal favorites is flippers listing cars they just bought for sale. You know that’s what’s going on when all they have are pictures on the trailer 🤣 I’ve also seen people list cars for sale with pictures from the previous seller’s ad. It’s happened with cars I’ve sold!
When I lived in Utah I ran into the same scam on a used enclosed trailer. Fortunately I called them out on it before money was changed hands but they did waste A lot of my time.
Irony of ironies 🤣 my production standards are… unique. Not only do I fully understand how screen recording works, I’ve also spent years in audio and music production, and have a recording studio that I built at home - yet I insist on using an iPhone mic for this entire channel. Figure that one out.
An easy way to expose a scammer is to tell them you are hiring an inspector to look the car over and ask for their address. They will stop answering your messages.
I've run into a few scammers, I haven't been scammed yet. I try to have fun with them before they realize they aren't getting money from me. I actually got put in Facebook jail for messing with one. That seemed a little backwards, but it was worth it.
I'm in grants pass saw this ad last week. I totally thought it was fake too. Lol. I sent it to my dad and said there's no way this car is this cheap hahaha
These cars, and others from the classic muscle car era attract a lot of non “car people” - that’s the level of love people have for this era of vehicles. They are the ones who are most likely to get scammed. I tell them to get something more modern, from a Carvana, that has a warranty, return policy, can be serviced by a mechanic or dealership, and will be more reliable and generally a better car. And nope one ever listens. If you know what you’re doing, and you enjoy wrenching and fixing and inspecting and tweaking and truly love old cars, great. But for the average person, who just wants to have something nice to drive once in a while, the new stuff is better. OK I have to get out in the rain and drop my gas tank to fix a leak now…
i have never understood the mindset of buying a personal car sight unseen, like i would be willing to wire $10000+ for a car but would not be willing to drive (or even fly) out to see the car first, its amazing how good an underbody can look in pictures after a coat of spray-paint, also how do you know the engine doesn't have issues if you haven't heard it startup and run?
I recently tried to buy a Panamera Turbo, and it turned out to be a scam. It was on a reputable auction site and they assisted me in determining it was a scam.
I did though just buy a 2014 Jeep Rubicon for $12,900 (a going price around here would no lower then 17,000) with a 167,000 miles but zero rust and brand new tire that I priced out at $1,800. The only thing I think I will be doing to it is install a B&M or Dorman shift. It’s a 6 speed and the shifter feels like rubber.
I almost fell into the trap a few years ago when buying a VW Camper. It was a cheap van on what looked like a dealer page that was near to where I live, but as soon as I started asking about come to see it I got the sorry I'm overseas at the moment but can have it shipped to your house at your cost spiel.
You have to do your due diligence. Some sellers put a lower price on Craigslist and Facebook to make you call for the real price. That wasn't the case here but some do.
The mopar collector car and muscle car world is a crazy place. People work extra hard to set thier car apart from the rest by boiling down the components to the smallest of details to demonstrate how rare the car is. A common car with an uncommon assortment of colours and options suddenly becomes a 1 or only 30 made, a green sattelite with red interior and optional gegaws like a cigarette lighter or something like a badge on the dash makes it a rare car. Sorry, not in my world. It’s the same mopar world that works so hard to scam potential buyers into purchasing faked cars. It’s sad but in a way the inflated prices, fake kookery scam cars and uneducated eager buyers wanting to get in on the action deserve each other. Im happy to say my Ford world isnt this way, Ya right!
Yeah I don’t give half a crap about any of that. Lol. Hell, my Demon is 1/2050 or so 340 four speed ‘71s. That’s plenty precise enough for me - even if it is special among them, and it is.
Mopars are ridiculous in that regard, but most any of those mid '60s-early '70s muscle cars can get caught up in that. I happen to know of a 1969 Dodge Charger R/T 440 4-speed for sale by a project car dealer. No engine or trans, holes in the frame, no floors, no front panels or trunk lid, no glass, interior is pretty much unsalvageable, and it looks like a tree might have fallen on it at one time or another. It can be your for only $25,000! That's the most ridiculous listing on their site, but even the Fords and Chevies are way out of reach for the condition they're in. And that, my friends, is why I got turned off to that era of muscle cars.
I actually bought my dart thru an eBay ad in 2021. I think I got lucky based on what you said. I’d never have sent a deposit though, so if that’s the game, my common sense would have protected me. I was only interested because he was fairly close by. I just went, met the guy…and saw the car. I paid him when I went back to get it. He was a very nice guy, and even thru in an extra slant six engine he had removed from his Scamp. There really are legit sellers out there, but I probably would not do it again. Times have gotten weirder since then. Thank you for this video though. It’s excellent public service education. 😊👍👍
That car is for sale on FB in PA for $ 30k. Another scam is a real dealership will be used as a front unbeknownst to that very dealership, they have legit bank accounts to send money, bottom line is never by something without having someone go check it out and never send money first.
Scammers are running rampant… some aren’t so clever.. offering fully restored classic muscle cars for $19,500.. their user name screams scam usually on marketplace
Thanks for the video about 10 years ago a buddy of mine was all excited he found it absolutely beautiful 57 Corvette rotisserie restoration over 100 pictures is $25,000 the owner said send me $15,000 to hold it I was looking at the pictures and I noticed something very suspicious why is this car parked in front of a building with giant letters written in Russian yes the car was in Russia it was for sale for $80,000 this guy was a scammer he almost pressed the button I said don't do it it's a scam and he listened to me he was lucky if you wouldn't have called me he was going to send this guy 15 grand have a great day
So mad my neighbor wouldn't sell me his 440 1970 Dodge Challenger for $2500 back in 1994. He "didn't want to see it next door, no longer in his possession".
9:00 Another key detail here is that the ebay listing has a larger resolution picture. Whoever has the smaller resolution picture copied it in some way that compressed the image and reduced the resolution So if the scam is a few layers deep, the largest resolution is the real/original seller EDIT: I made the colossal error of not watching the whole video before commenting, and you briefly mentioned it at 10:50. But still you can see the actual resolution numbers earlier
I fix up old cars as a hobby. I but cars long distance often. I have a trick I use.. it is soooo valuable, I wont even share it... I dont need more competition in this field...
I've had potential buyers ask me to take pictures of the VIN sticker in the doorjamb & the VIN plate on the dash (beneath the windshield). And yeah, I've never blocked my tag# when selling.
I've asked for a picture of what ever part or paperwork with a $1 in the pic, with old Abe facing one way or another. Legit sellers laugh and say okay, scammers piss and moan about it
Well I saw a '68, light blue, 318 auto, black vinyl top, all stock with some bondo, but not too bad for sale on a front lawn the next neighborhood over for $3,800 obo..........back in New England where I grew up..........in 1987. Wish I knew then what I know now.
The only place I trust to buy cars from sight unseen is a local auction.And that's because I've bought enough cars there in person to know they're legit and that their descriptions are good. Plus I buy beaters for $1000 or less, so problems are to be expected.
It sucks to be old enough to remember when a fairly nice 69 Charger R/T could be had for $900 (in 1979). A 440 4 speed car that ran and drove just fine. And, it sucks even more to remember not buying it. Now all I have is a $0 memory, but I do still have a 73 Roadrunner I bought later that year for $1300, so there's that. A 73 RR is just a 69 Charger with differently shaped sheetmetal, right?
Imagine that a charger with cragers. Oh how naive I was when I thought my barracuda on cragers was unique. To be fair it was my 1st car and over 30 years ago. 😂😂
I know a guy who got scammed on hemi crate engine for 20 grand. He sent the money and only received a small cardboard box with a picture of the engine in it.
To make that car “nice” which is subjective the only thing that isn’t subjective is you’ll be so upside down on the value of that car it’s scary. Thank god he reached out to you first.
@ when I bought my hellcat new I went to about 4-5 dealerships trying to buy one new cash not that they care. They all laughed and said you’re not buying one for less than $30,000 above MSRP and you can’t buy one from out of state. Literally told me that multiple times. I drove to New Jersey from Massachusetts bought one for under MSRP and registered it without issue. That’s why I hate dodge. I’m more of a GM and Ford guy. Now seeing them struggle and mass layoffs couldn’t make me happier. And the one near my house had 2 Dmeons and 2 hellcats stolen from them (they store cars for profit during the winter) and they won’t admit that they had custom cars stolen from them. Even tho 8 state troopers were there all day long and my friend is a mechanic there. They’re still denying it to this day. Happened last winter. Karma comes full circle. They steal from customers and they got stolen from. That’s life I guess
I had a running driving but rough-ish 69 charger I sold in 2002 for $2000. I literally regret it everyday. Was originally green/green 383 2 barrel but was painted white before i bought it.
@ciklop4206 mine would have been fine had i kept it. I had a 70 chevelle at the same time and both sat inside next to each other....the chevelle still is inside untouched and quite good.
Shit.. when I was in high-school my best friend had one... we used to drive around in that thing while we tripped out on mescaline while listening to early van halen. The sound of the secondaries opening up was awesome... I know, irresponsible. But we lived in the middle of nowhere.
Good advice. Thieves work all day dreaming up ways to get our money. Honest people do not spend that much time thinking of ways to not get beat out of our cash.
Went down this road once. I had the guy take a picture of himself with the days newspaper and a stick in his mouth.... He was willing to do the stick, but not the paper. I just figured it was whacky enough that he'd hang up, but he said he'd do the stick, but wasn't going to waste the money on a newspaper.... Umm, REALLY!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
I’ve told the story of my interest in them before. When I was 17 I really wanted one, and $3500 was a DEAL. I’m pretty sure it was a scam post I was looking at for one at that price in 2008 when I tried to borrow the money from my mom to buy it. As I got older and my income and means to buy went up, so did the prices on these cars - to the point that they always stayed out of my reach, until I made a couple choice moves a couple years ago. I couldn’t afford another one today, but I managed.
That car is on ebay for 30,000
Tell me you didn’t watch the video without telling me you didn’t watch the video 😅
@DeadDodgeGarage lol 😆 😂
HAHA! You know you don't have to hit enter after you type, right? You can make several comments, and watch rest of video, and making closing remarks. Or multiple seperate comments, the problem is he will only see latest one so might miss a few if they are seperate.
@@DeadDodgeGarage If he watched it he would have known its on craigslist for $10,000 much cheaper than $30,000🤣🤣🤣
Really? No kidding!
This is my car!!! 😂😂😂😂 I love it! I’ve flagged at least 15 ads, my friend sent me this video. Thanks for help save other people from being scammed.
Oh shit! Awesome! Yeah… it sounds like this guy has reposted it all around the country. We’ve flagged this one several times, but it’s still up. Anyway I’m doing my part. Haha. Thanks!
@@DeadDodgeGarageI just got done flagging it, no idea how he has some of those pics unless he creeped my profile on Facebook from my marketplace ad. Thanks again for pointing this out, have a great night!
Wow, cool!
I live 45 minutes away. Maybe I should ask to "come and test drive it?" 😂😅😊
Herps?
JAMIE, I just bought a 69 charger red 4 speed hemi. And it was on the cheap. Got it for 24.99 at Walmart. It was the only one I could afford.
My cost me $ 65 dollars 69 rt 4 speed 440 ci white hats special f6 green the one at the photo 😂 n that is the truth 👍
I have a few of those 🤣
This has been a public service announcement . If this was an actual emergency Jamie would be throwing wrenches at us and screaming NOOOOOOO!...lol
That’s right 😂
Mechanic, musician, public servant. I knew I liked this channel for a reason! I also love the squiggles over plate numbers. Literally thousands of people can see your license plate every day on the road. Putting it online isn’t gonna hurt anything.
Exactly. Haha. Thanks!
@@DeadDodgeGarage eye sorta got ripped buying a 73 chall. still have it, 14 yrs ago.. it was in rio linda, cali, 17k.. 340 r/t clone. the one advertised was a 440 leather r/t.. with about a 5 page spill. that should of raised 10 red flags, plus i tried to get it ''looked'' at. twice, no fkr home... anyhoo. i bought it. replaced steering gear, suspension, had dash gauges re done. bought sht loads for it 12 yrs ago when import mail was cheap.. new tank 140. mint dash top 150. 71 grill 150.. plus got indi , marker lites.. it drove no probs when bought, but, the reg dept here is like hitler with 5000 jews & blacks.. has to be 100% original, back then.. not now.. 100% original.??.. are they fkn kidding... its 1973.. ausie..
@@DeadDodgeGarage yes me.. was originally after a ''bb'' mustang f/back. i realised then, theres basically cars for o/s [ over seas] sale, & local..especially with mustangs. 90%, were junk, dolled up..
@@DeadDodgeGarage same sht here in aus.. there was a pantera. 40k.. ''guy worked so much never used it''.. gave me co he worked for. i rang ''them''. nope, no one here by that name..plus the guy said, you buy car, if your not happy within 4 wks, ill refund & pay for transport.. ??.. uuuhh.. nope..
I had a story to share. I was looking for a 2nd gen Cummins powered pickup. I found one on Ebay. Nice looking truck. 1996 3500 dually, 2 wd. Starting bid, $8k. I thought, what the heck? I was the first & only bidder! He didn't ask for a deposit. I told him I'd bring cash. I drove 3 states to get it & it was legit! I turned in my rental car & drove this beauty back home without issues! This was 2 years ago. I've still got it & I won't be letting it go any time soon! So there are deals out there by legitimate folks. Love your Cummins! 👍 Just wanted to share. Take care!
There is no question there are legit deals out there on the internet. And I would argue that eBay is one of the best places to find them, because the seller has to pay money to list it there. Also, two years ago, I was trying to sell a 2000 Ram 2500 Cummins automatic 4x4. Mostly great looking truck with high miles. I couldn’t get $9000 for that one and ended up trading it, because those trucks were absolutely in the toilet due to insane diesel prices at that time. And this wasn’t long after paying $14,000 for my third gen… I think you got a good deal! But it doesn’t surprise me.
@DeadDodgeGarage Thanks! Love your channel!👍
I bought my 64 Valiant on FB Marketplace and drove from Michigan to Tennessee to pick it up. Dude was legit, car was as described, I've still got my Valiant and everybody was happy. But you have to keep your wits about you and don't bet what you can't afford to lose.
@wiggyjones Absolutely!👍
I wonder how many people have lost money on that car so far? Truly unfortunate. The listing is right in my back yard too. My first clue was the price followed by the style of houses behind it. We don’t have houses like that here. Glad you and your subscriber figured it out before he lost money on it. Good reminder for us all! If it’s too good to be true, it usually is.
On an ad like that call him and ask to come see the car and see what he says.
Yep… and @mexicanspec that’s exactly what we were doing. McLovin here was even willing to go look at it.
@@DeadDodgeGaragethis is where the whole buy a car in cash gets sketchy. Now you’ve announced you have $10k in a bundle or $30k. Gives me bad vibes. You need to be with people and exercising your 2nd amendment rights but reality is you just don’t know unless you already know the neighborhood; as in local.
@@daveshore8671 Very good point.
when i look at listings i always pay attention to the background ... it surprising what you can see sometimes
Every time I see that generation Charger my shoulders and arms hurt from remembering prepping one for paint and block sanding the 1/8 mile long quarter panels back in 1973 or 4.... Oh the joy of being a helper/intern as a teen.
I’ve been very lucky in both of my online, sight-unseen classic Mopar car purchases and (so far) buying a 273 for the Valiant. The key is walk away from it as soon as anything doesn’t pass the smell test, and go through an escrow service to protect yourself and the other party (no deposit/hold fee sent).
Thank you for putting videos like this together to help everybody out.
I had a very nice older Sea Ray cruiser for sale and I was contacted by a potential buyer in New Orleans. He has relatives in the Louisville Kentucky area where I live and he asked if he could send his cousin over to see the boat. I said sure and his cousin came over and basically kicked tires and admitted he knew nothing about boats. I just told him that I knew he was here to make sure I wasn’t a scammer and he laughed and said that yes - that’s exactly why he was here. Anyway, I did sell the boat to his cousin so happy ending all around.
Not *that* kind of happy ending. Sheesh.
Haaaahaha. I wouldn’t have said anything.
Great video and info Jamie, same thing is happening in Massachusetts right now with a guy selling a bunch of high end Mopars with waaaay too low price tags. Buyers BEWARE!!!
Great video,👊Beware scammers are everywhere.
I’m thankful that this video came up because I plan to get into the market to find a 69 Charger to restore in a year or two. For funsies I came across this listing on eBay. You’re doing the community a favor calling these fraudsters out!
I dont do much social media stuff. But i am learning more everyday. I really appreciate you educating us about this. Your a stand up man
i love where you said "if you know who they are, if they have a reputation that you can verify". i recently found a "too good to be true" deal on a 1978 D150...when i pulled up, the seller had 3 dodge B series vans, multiple PT cruisers (?!) and his name was hemi head fred. i knew i had found the right guy to buy an old truck from :)
That’s him - that’s the guy. Haha.
Thanks to Jamie and the sharp-eyed viewer!
Wow, that is just crazy! I have seen this happen with vintage guitars as well. Great video Jamie!
Well done! Funny thing, I bought a Triumph Motorcycle and sidecar off the internet. Suspicious arose when it was also on the sidecar companies web site. No deposit needed, just bring certified check and trailer or helmet. Buddy of mine when up to get it. WAs priced way. way to cheap, so wanted to be ready for anything. What did I get, exactly what was advertised for half of what it is worth, because the dude needed the money... Felt guilty, until he started asking about BMW GS motorcycles... So it does happen, but uh, normally, what Jamie said.
Sure, it can go that way too. A friend bought it in person with paper money. You did the right thing.
Out here doing the Mopar Lord's work.
@@kuhndog-1196 Jesus built my hotrod....ministry.
If I can't physically put my hands on the car and see the title to match it to the vin I wont even entertain making an offer. Maybe its because I'm old and this is how we did it but it has served me well for a lot of years. Nice catch on this scam artist. Keep up the great work...🤓
I’ve done a whole lot of negotiating via internet and phone conversations before buying. If you want to make a deal on these things, you have to be on it. The competition is stiff…
@@DeadDodgeGarage I totally get that and for certain types of deals I will buy without being present but for big purchases (like over a couple hundred bucks) I need to see and touch what I'm buying. Seen more then my fair share of people getting scammed on vehicles. Don't even get me started on classic car lots and the tricks they use. lol.
I lived in Warminster PA from 1985 to 1989 and recognize the neighborhood. Imagine doing a major restoration in an integrated single car garage.
I’ve done some decent work in an attached garage. And I’ve done a bunch of engine swaps in gravel, or a tiny concrete pad next to my house 😅
Jamie I am so happy I bought my cars back in the 80s when they were plentiful and you could go look at them there was lots of them for sale within five 600 miles of a year and yeah I got blessed with some nice cars but I tell you nowadays it's sad to see what some people pay for stuff and I just can't believe the deceiving people out there sad good job on the explanation of the situation here and thank you for the video
Just came across your channel a couple weeks ago. Was a Mopar guy a long time ago, but have been getting the urge lately to get one. Checked out a 318 powered 66 Charger a couple weeks back, but unfortunately it was going to be too much work.
I really like your dead pan humour and imagine if I ever had a YT channel it would he very similar to yours. I cuss waay too much as well when wrenching. Lol!
Haha. Same… thank you!
Easiest way to tell if it's a good deal or a scam is ask for in person with cash then ask when and where you can meet. Watch them ghost and block you or actually find it's a good deal.
Hey, we did that. Lol.
Thanks for the Public Service Announcement and perfect example
Great information. I was almost scammed some years ago but I've become more careful and spectacle.
You’re doing a good service here. Great videos. Interesting stuff on your channel and perfect dry humor.
Thank you!
The problem here is if the scammer gets caught the fine is like $50 and that's a big if. Law enforcement doesn't care at $50.
Damn them
It still amazes me that there are people who will buy any car, let alone a "collector" car, sight unseen.
There are thousands… and thousands…
In person only thanks, I need to be able to lick the bugs on the windshield and taste the oil from the dipstick while the owner questions my purchasing approach. This is how you buy a charger, this is why I have a charger!
Thanks for posting. Good advice Detective Jamie!!!!!
Thank you for your service.
Somebody getting scammed on a car could potentially turn them off from the classic car hobby, and that's horrible. I've bought 1 sight unseen (in person) myself....but I am POSITIVE the seller is a straight shooter.
Well… yes 😅
Excellent video! Thanks for the tips!
Whoa !! Outstanding detective 🕵️♂️ work , Jamie !!
I've followed your channel for some time now and I'm always a little smarter after watching
Well, I try. Haha. Thank you.
Good job! That applies to many items on the "interwebs"....
You can also see ads saying " Ran when I parked it " or " needs starter " You can't drive or start it because the motor or tranny are blown . The owner will swear up & down it runs great . Also I'm a computer dinosaur and not to savvy and I've sold many items on craigs list using my 20 year old potato .
There is a reliable list of goofy things people put in ads that are code for other things. One of my personal favorites is flippers listing cars they just bought for sale. You know that’s what’s going on when all they have are pictures on the trailer 🤣 I’ve also seen people list cars for sale with pictures from the previous seller’s ad. It’s happened with cars I’ve sold!
When I lived in Utah I ran into the same scam on a used enclosed trailer. Fortunately I called them out on it before money was changed hands but they did waste A lot of my time.
I love how you said you grew up in the internet era but are recording a computer with a camera lmao
Irony of ironies 🤣 my production standards are… unique. Not only do I fully understand how screen recording works, I’ve also spent years in audio and music production, and have a recording studio that I built at home - yet I insist on using an iPhone mic for this entire channel. Figure that one out.
I've noticed third gen RAM's like ours have lots of these kinds of fake ad's too.
Amazing information. Super great presentation 🎉
Thank you!
An easy way to expose a scammer is to tell them you are hiring an inspector to look the car over and ask for their address. They will stop answering your messages.
I've run into a few scammers, I haven't been scammed yet. I try to have fun with them before they realize they aren't getting money from me. I actually got put in Facebook jail for messing with one. That seemed a little backwards, but it was worth it.
Yeah, I’d say it was worth it. Haha.
I'm in grants pass saw this ad last week. I totally thought it was fake too. Lol. I sent it to my dad and said there's no way this car is this cheap hahaha
These cars, and others from the classic muscle car era attract a lot of non “car people” - that’s the level of love people have for this era of vehicles. They are the ones who are most likely to get scammed. I tell them to get something more modern, from a Carvana, that has a warranty, return policy, can be serviced by a mechanic or dealership, and will be more reliable and generally a better car. And nope one ever listens. If you know what you’re doing, and you enjoy wrenching and fixing and inspecting and tweaking and truly love old cars, great. But for the average person, who just wants to have something nice to drive once in a while, the new stuff is better.
OK I have to get out in the rain and drop my gas tank to fix a leak now…
I agree. Also… ugh.
I have a reputation you can verify. Scammers like this give me a bad name.
Absolutely. You have many happy customers. I’ve heard from some of them!
Jaime doing PSAs. Bless you, Sir!
i have never understood the mindset of buying a personal car sight unseen,
like i would be willing to wire $10000+ for a car but would not be willing to drive (or even fly) out to see the car first,
its amazing how good an underbody can look in pictures after a coat of spray-paint, also how do you know the engine doesn't have issues if you haven't heard it startup and run?
And yet, it happens every day.
I recently tried to buy a Panamera Turbo, and it turned out to be a scam. It was on a reputable auction site and they assisted me in determining it was a scam.
Wow. Well, that’s special.
Great informative video. Thanks Jamie
Jamie: Dodge expert and consumer reporter.
I did though just buy a 2014 Jeep Rubicon for $12,900 (a going price around here would no lower then 17,000) with a 167,000 miles but zero rust and brand new tire that I priced out at $1,800. The only thing I think I will be doing to it is install a B&M or Dorman shift. It’s a 6 speed and the shifter feels like rubber.
I almost fell into the trap a few years ago when buying a VW Camper. It was a cheap van on what looked like a dealer page that was near to where I live, but as soon as I started asking about come to see it I got the sorry I'm overseas at the moment but can have it shipped to your house at your cost spiel.
Wow… good times.
I saw that same $10,000 ad in a Virginia CL a couple of weeks ago. You flag it but they just put it back up in another city.
I saw that charger on the b body forum and it was semi local. I sent it to a few buddies. The older guys on the forum found the car on eBay.
I had a 68 Charger in really good shape, but it only had a 318. Still looked good.
You have to do your due diligence. Some sellers put a lower price on Craigslist and Facebook to make you call for the real price. That wasn't the case here but some do.
The mopar collector car and muscle car world is a crazy place. People work extra hard to set thier car apart from the rest by boiling down the components to the smallest of details to demonstrate how rare the car is. A common car with an uncommon assortment of colours and options suddenly becomes a 1 or only 30 made, a green sattelite with red interior and optional gegaws like a cigarette lighter or something like a badge on the dash makes it a rare car. Sorry, not in my world. It’s the same mopar world that works so hard to scam potential buyers into purchasing faked cars. It’s sad but in a way the inflated prices, fake kookery scam cars and uneducated eager buyers wanting to get in on the action deserve each other.
Im happy to say my Ford world isnt this way,
Ya right!
Yeah I don’t give half a crap about any of that. Lol. Hell, my Demon is 1/2050 or so 340 four speed ‘71s. That’s plenty precise enough for me - even if it is special among them, and it is.
Mopars are ridiculous in that regard, but most any of those mid '60s-early '70s muscle cars can get caught up in that. I happen to know of a 1969 Dodge Charger R/T 440 4-speed for sale by a project car dealer. No engine or trans, holes in the frame, no floors, no front panels or trunk lid, no glass, interior is pretty much unsalvageable, and it looks like a tree might have fallen on it at one time or another. It can be your for only $25,000! That's the most ridiculous listing on their site, but even the Fords and Chevies are way out of reach for the condition they're in. And that, my friends, is why I got turned off to that era of muscle cars.
Thanks for the PSA, very useful
I actually bought my dart thru an eBay ad in 2021. I think I got lucky based on what you said.
I’d never have sent a deposit though, so if that’s the game, my common sense would have protected me. I was only interested because he was fairly close by. I just went, met the guy…and saw the car. I paid him when I went back to get it. He was a very nice guy, and even thru in an extra slant six engine he had removed from his Scamp.
There really are legit sellers out there, but I probably would not do it again. Times have gotten weirder since then.
Thank you for this video though. It’s excellent public service education.
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There are tons and tons of real ads out there. There are also fake ones… the trick is to figure out how to tell the two apart. Sometimes, it’s tough…
That car is for sale on FB in PA for $ 30k. Another scam is a real dealership will be used as a front unbeknownst to that very dealership, they have legit bank accounts to send money, bottom line is never by something without having someone go check it out and never send money first.
Also ebay, as I showed in the video. In the eBay listening, he mentions that it is for sale locally as well.
Good catch jamie
Thanks for the heads up Jaime great information people suck some people anyway lol
Great investigative reporting
That car was local to me in Bucks County PA. I used to see it at local car shows.
It’s still around there as far as I know.
Scammers are running rampant… some aren’t so clever.. offering fully restored classic muscle cars for $19,500.. their user name screams scam usually on marketplace
considering how many voted for Trump I'd say 50% of America arn't so clever.
Like all things too good to be true , (Cars - Guitars) it is too good to be true.
Thanks Jamie.
Great video of knowledge
I only search within my travel radius. Like Fox Mulder says, "Trust No One"
As always i learn something new thank you😁 looking forward to the video of the 69 😊
Me too! Thanks!
Funny, the other night I was going thru Marketplace, and a couple really looked a bit fishy!
Thanks for the video about 10 years ago a buddy of mine was all excited he found it absolutely beautiful 57 Corvette rotisserie restoration over 100 pictures is $25,000 the owner said send me $15,000 to hold it I was looking at the pictures and I noticed something very suspicious why is this car parked in front of a building with giant letters written in Russian yes the car was in Russia it was for sale for $80,000 this guy was a scammer he almost pressed the button I said don't do it it's a scam and he listened to me he was lucky if you wouldn't have called me he was going to send this guy 15 grand have a great day
Wow… $15k is an insane down payment. Never send more than you’re willing to lose.
Great information for us rookies!!!!!
So mad my neighbor wouldn't sell me his 440 1970 Dodge Challenger for $2500 back in 1994. He "didn't want to see it next door, no longer in his possession".
Actually? I wouldn’t want that either.
9:00 Another key detail here is that the ebay listing has a larger resolution picture. Whoever has the smaller resolution picture copied it in some way that compressed the image and reduced the resolution
So if the scam is a few layers deep, the largest resolution is the real/original seller
EDIT: I made the colossal error of not watching the whole video before commenting, and you briefly mentioned it at 10:50. But still you can see the actual resolution numbers earlier
You and many others commented a bit early on this one. Haha. Yes, you’re absolutely right.
I fix up old cars as a hobby. I but cars long distance often. I have a trick I use.. it is soooo valuable, I wont even share it... I dont need more competition in this field...
Well, alrighty then! I’m all about the free sharing of information - but that’s all you.
If I can’t touch it before any money exchanges hands it’s not meant to be.
I've had potential buyers ask me to take pictures of the VIN sticker in the doorjamb & the VIN plate on the dash (beneath the windshield). And yeah, I've never blocked my tag# when selling.
And you shouldn’t. It’s an absolutely ridiculous thing to do.
I've asked for a picture of what ever part or paperwork with a $1 in the pic, with old Abe facing one way or another. Legit sellers laugh and say okay, scammers piss and moan about it
Good advice. If ya can't put eyes - yours or a trusted source - on a car. No sendy money... speaking of Chargers... start work on the 69'!
I already did!! 😅
@@DeadDodgeGarage Great news! Keep the content coming. Wagon was a gooder... wondering where you'll go with the rusty musty 69
Well I saw a '68, light blue, 318 auto, black vinyl top, all stock with some bondo, but not too bad for sale on a front lawn the next neighborhood over for $3,800 obo..........back in New England where I grew up..........in 1987. Wish I knew then what I know now.
Yeeeeep…
The only place I trust to buy cars from sight unseen is a local auction.And that's because I've bought enough cars there in person to know they're legit and that their descriptions are good. Plus I buy beaters for $1000 or less, so problems are to be expected.
That’s how I operate. If I’m buying it, it’s almost certainly a POS.
It sucks to be old enough to remember when a fairly nice 69 Charger R/T could be had for $900 (in 1979). A 440 4 speed car that ran and drove just fine. And, it sucks even more to remember not buying it. Now all I have is a $0 memory, but I do still have a 73 Roadrunner I bought later that year for $1300, so there's that. A 73 RR is just a 69 Charger with differently shaped sheetmetal, right?
Close… close.
Reminds me of the story behind the green Trail Duster that Tom bought about a year ago.
Yeah! I forgot all about that. At least that guy actually thought he was going to have a car to sell. He didn’t have it yet… but he might have soon.
This is so funny. I just went on marketplace to look and found that exact car with those exact photos. He's asking 30k 😅
Yes - that is the ACTUAL seller. He has it listed on Marketplace as well as eBay.
When I saw your thumbnail, I immediately recognized the car from the eBay listing
Yep. It’s a legit car! And many people have seen that too. This is more of a PSA about scammers getting better at the game than anything else.
This scam happens all time with different vehicles.. i rememeber 1 here in the uk with a nice vw t5 camper... i even almost fell for it
Imagine that a charger with cragers. Oh how naive I was when I thought my barracuda on cragers was unique. To be fair it was my 1st car and over 30 years ago. 😂😂
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I know a guy who got scammed on hemi crate engine for 20 grand. He sent the money and only received a small cardboard box with a picture of the engine in it.
Jesus… that’s quite something.
To make that car “nice” which is subjective the only thing that isn’t subjective is you’ll be so upside down on the value of that car it’s scary. Thank god he reached out to you first.
I paid $10k for my rusty POS, and I WILL do it again. If you want one of these cars, you’re going to pay. Better hope you can weld.
@ I don’t want an old dodge. I have a new hellcat Widebody. And a 1968 Camaro RS/SS. I hate dodge and hope they go bankrupt! I do love my hellcat tho.
@ when I bought my hellcat new I went to about 4-5 dealerships trying to buy one new cash not that they care. They all laughed and said you’re not buying one for less than $30,000 above MSRP and you can’t buy one from out of state. Literally told me that multiple times. I drove to New Jersey from Massachusetts bought one for under MSRP and registered it without issue. That’s why I hate dodge. I’m more of a GM and Ford guy. Now seeing them struggle and mass layoffs couldn’t make me happier. And the one near my house had 2 Dmeons and 2 hellcats stolen from them (they store cars for profit during the winter) and they won’t admit that they had custom cars stolen from them. Even tho 8 state troopers were there all day long and my friend is a mechanic there. They’re still denying it to this day. Happened last winter. Karma comes full circle. They steal from customers and they got stolen from. That’s life I guess
I should kick my own ass about 20 years ago I sold my 70 charger no motor or trans for 4000 itd be more like 30k now
me too brother
I had a running driving but rough-ish 69 charger I sold in 2002 for $2000. I literally regret it everyday. Was originally green/green 383 2 barrel but was painted white before i bought it.
You are *far* from the only one. There’s just no way of knowing.
Are you sure you'd be able to keep it the same condition for 20 years? It might have turned into dust by now lmao
@ciklop4206 mine would have been fine had i kept it. I had a 70 chevelle at the same time and both sat inside next to each other....the chevelle still is inside untouched and quite good.
Shit.. when I was in high-school my best friend had one... we used to drive around in that thing while we tripped out on mescaline while listening to early van halen. The sound of the secondaries opening up was awesome... I know, irresponsible. But we lived in the middle of nowhere.
My first clue was the architecture of the house, that's definitely east coast.
Yes - and we noticed that too, and some uncovered license plates in two pictures. But I forgot to discuss those details in the video.
It was also listed in Harrisonburg, PA. A friend sent it to me. I told him it was not real…
Apparently it has been listed in many different areas…
I need to see it. I need to touch it and I need a clear title!
Good advice. Thieves work all day dreaming up ways to get our money. Honest people do not spend that much time thinking of ways to not get beat out of our cash.
Went down this road once. I had the guy take a picture of himself with the days newspaper and a stick in his mouth.... He was willing to do the stick, but not the paper. I just figured it was whacky enough that he'd hang up, but he said he'd do the stick, but wasn't going to waste the money on a newspaper.... Umm, REALLY!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Haaaahahaha. That’s a good one.
Remember kids, coronets are far superior to chargers.
THE PIZZA PLANET TRUCK IS A TOYOTA JAMIE 😂
If you say so 🤣
By the time I was going to buy a classic car, these were out of consideration. I'm more of a "hit them where they ain't" school of thought.
I’ve told the story of my interest in them before. When I was 17 I really wanted one, and $3500 was a DEAL. I’m pretty sure it was a scam post I was looking at for one at that price in 2008 when I tried to borrow the money from my mom to buy it. As I got older and my income and means to buy went up, so did the prices on these cars - to the point that they always stayed out of my reach, until I made a couple choice moves a couple years ago. I couldn’t afford another one today, but I managed.
Thanks for sharing you knowledge. I use Google lens as well.