During the finale of their battle against Pernida, does Nemu become the strongest Vice-Captain we've ever seen? I'm inclined to say yes...but let me know your thoughts! Is there anyone else who could decimate a member of the Schutzstaffel like that?
Honestly, since we're only talking about vice-captains, I believe Nemu was the strongest at that moment. The other vice-captains would not have been able to defeat the Schutzstaffel without any help from the other vice-captains, so yes, I agree with your answer. Second, even if Rukia and Renji had teamed up with their Royal Palace training, it's still the left arm of the Soul King. They would not have known that it can evolve beyond their capabilities.
Sasikibe was capable of this with bankai but he wouldn't expire from it so i give him the nod. I think renji and rukia would also put up a better fight against pernida. The royal training didn't just make them achieve 100% of their power, it increased what their 100% was. They're still above Nemu too.
@@coolspider10I'd agree with the other thing you said but I dont think that all vice captain working together could even win against 1 elite sternritter.. Pernida, no one can see it's invisible nerves and would speed blitz all of them (even adapt to all of them if needed to) Lille is intangible and would one shots everyone literally Askin is the closest one they can defeat as long as he's caught off guard but i cant think of any vice captains that is near intelligent as Urahara.. they'd lose due to lack of plan. Gerard? lmao bro is ridiculously strong.. 4 captains + vice captains + vizards cant even kill him..
I'm more interested in the aftermath with hallucination szayelaporro honestly. The sound mixing and visuals for the emotive parts in the animated TYBW arc has been top tier, interested to see what direction Mayuri's VA will take it too.
holy moly i'm looking so forward to those fights. i've enjoyed most of them so far. i just wish it was like twice as long. but i get it, at the same time. here, they aren't really like "oh man, i hoped i wouldn't have to use this ability. but i've waited long enough." here they are like "oh it's time to bring the maximum pain that i can almost fast as possible."
Every character has the potential to be game breaking. That was established multiple times with the most notable figure being Yamamoto and Aizen. They mastered every skill they had at their disposal and pushed themselves to the end to reach the upper levels of power. They weren't the strongest being ever but are talking points for the top 10 as just soul reapers. Hybrids have higher ceilings so can reach potentially higher levels of power it still takes time and effort to do so.
Nemu probably had this power all the time but did not use it because she felt Mayuri could handle anything. And she just allowed herself to be treated badly to somehow help him out. But when she sees her Captain\father figure in real danger she flips the switch and becomes a demon. It was great to see her shine for once.
Indeed. Her sacrifice was tragic, but it is touching that Akon notes that Mayuri seemed to have been grieving in his own way during CFYOW. It also leading to Mayuri becoming a much better father to Nemuri Hachigo is also heartwarming.
@@manuelacosta9463 That was very satisfying. For the man who wanted to ensure chaos across the realms to be completely ignored in his dying moments, that was some poetic karma. Mayuri gave Tokinada exactly what he deserved.
@@jrgenvellesen7800 Indeed. He also wanted to be infamous in history, yet his death has been brushed off as the typically brutal noble infighting. A mere footnote. Mayuri does not concern himself with such base trivialities.
He’s always ahead of the curve he knows anything can happen so he makes sure there is a fail safe or reverse uno card in every single one of his weapons and creations like Nemu
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Kubo really does love this motif in his writing. The power skip that has a often bad or detrimental effect on the user. Its only through hard work that a person can gain a permanent strength as we see with ichigo.
Nemu at max power is how I feel Bankai should be treated, not in terms of sheer power but in how costly it is to use and maintain, otherwise we get things like Arrancar arc Ichigo who never drops bankai.
@@Dothomir777 Personally, I disagree because otherwise it becomes harder to justify actually using Bankai at all, especially if the situation escalates.
Bankais are too diverse to have this as a rule, we have some that are of this type, like soi fon, but the fun of them is how they match their wearer and how they can change the game completely.
Nemu's last act feels a lot like opening the eighth gate from Naruto, insane power by burning up their own lifeforce that 400 seconds was how much time she has left burning at this speed
Another way to albeit more dirty analogy would be to say that this is an imperfect type of Mugetsu. Unlike Ichigo who could survive using that ability Nemu use would effectively end her for all practical purposes. Still makes her hands down the strongest Vice Captain that we have feats on. Makes me wonder where sasikibe falls on the power scaling🤔 No matter Nemu is #1
@@0eyes Not the same to komamura's sacrifice too.. Mugetsu and letz still dont kill you after sacrificing all your power. Komamura's ritual doesn't kill him either but just transform him to a normal dog or should i say cursed him to become a normal dog. Nemu soul shave directly kills her after timer.. No method of saving can be done because it's not harming her on physical level.. It just straight up uses all her life energy and she dont get to live to see another day after the fight al or does she get to transform into an animal.. she's straight up just gonna be gone after using it.
It reminds me more of what Starrk did with how she can split her soul apart. Also operating at a capacity far beyond her limits that'll ultimately destroy her reminds me of the kaioken attack.
Mayuris inventions are consistently shown to scale above him in terms of power so it makes perfect sense for Nemu to be thus strong. Kubo decided to draw her as extra thicc for this arc😏
Depends how you look at it. Her peak is above Ururu's, but unlike Ururu, her power kills her. Ururu is also anti-hollow from what I remember, considering how badly she clobbered il forte. Doubtful she can do anything on the same level to a quincy. SO what's better is up to personal discretion: unsustainable but unrivaled power, or sustainable but manageable power.
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Absolutely, in fact She'd trash multiple captains. As for the vice-captains specifically, Nemu is above all of them, you'd have to include stuff like lieutenant Aizen or something.
@@0eyes Pernida was literally stated to have evolved to kenpachi's level in speed, that's already beyond the vast majority of captains, I'd advice re-reading the manga. Tittles in Bleach, such as "Captain level" are meaningless and crazy inconsistent.
@@pepeelghetto1231 There are several Hacks tha power just can't beat in Bleach. She was completely immobilized by her Captians Shikai, just his first release. Wha could she do against someone like Sinji? She would never know where to actually Aim. How could she handle some one like Hisagi?
@@harrisonhurst6480 Kenpachi himself was restrained by Mayuri's shikai. And y'all overrate hax way too much. Nemu wouldnt be able to hit Shinji? Even then, She has the speed to run circles around him, so He can't hit her either. Same thing with hisagi, He doesnt have the stats to chase Nemu down, He'd get tired before Nemu does. Hax =/= autowin, in fact, most of the time people defending hax characters tend to put an arbitrary line on how far hax can carry them. You would never say Kenpschi would lose to Shinji, but somehow Nemu does? That my friend is an arbitrary line you are deciding subjectively, but the scaling simply.puts you wrong. Stats can allow raw power fighters to bypass or even replicate the practical effects of certain hax (Say, shunsui's bankai is a one shot... but Byakuya can Ikka senjikka and thats a one shot too), there's a reason characters like Kenpschi and Byakuya can actually compete despite being raw power only, same with Ichigo himself. Lastly, Im talking scaling. Nemu scales to vastly superior levels than shinji and co, that's an objective measure, not some subjective stuff like "Well shinji hax sound powerful, he must win bc that ability cool brou, and he captain".
@@harrisonhurst6480 Shinji would get speed blitz, bro cant even perceived a blast from a bomb.. I doubt a bomb is faster than post Unohana fight Zaraki Outside Yamamoto, Unohana, Zaraki, Mayuri, Adult Toshiro, Shunsui or Bankai Komamura.. No other captain can defeat a full powered Nemu.. The only way to survive is to be faster than her which means you need to be above base tybw zaraki in terms of stats wise or have someone like a crazy regeneration, immortality, or abilities that can render Nemu's movement.. A direct full soul cannon to the face from Nemu would turn most of the captain into red paste..
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I think it has something to do with the power of the soul especially with the upcoming hell arc. And the entire concept of soul reapers performing that thing to pass on souls to keep balance.
The thing is, Nemu isn't that powerful at least not all the time. She's able to accomplish these insane fears by shaving off her very soul which essentially will lead to her death. It's kind of like the 8 gates technique from Naruto. If she's not capable of these feats on a normal basis, then I think your previous ranking of her is pretty accurate. I do think Renji could actually hurt pernida since he's capable of hurting Gerard while in Shikai. In terms of raw power and physical stats, Renji is in fact superior to Mayuri by a significant margin.
I like the contrast that Nemu was basically a robot until Ishida showed her how love can push you to do great things to protect what you love. Thus Ishida felt it was needed to make a great sacrifice. Nemu did the same thing here for someone she loved to protect them at an even greater cost than Ishida's. As far as strength goes, the argument boils down to who is strongest between Nemu, Renji, Kensei and Rose. Mask mopped the floor with Hisagi, Yumichika, and Ikkaku, and after some boosting from James pooped on Rose and Kensei. Renji no diffed mask, so that to me places him deep in captain level. Nemu had to carve her soul out and kill herself to damage and disperse Pernida, so is it a greater feat sure, but Renji didn't die. As Byakuya said himself you can't protect shit if you're dead. If Renji went kamikaze with a Final Zaga Teppo I'm sure he could reach far higher heights then Nemu. But this is all extrapolation from what we've seen.
I think theres a video to me made examining the parallels between mayruri and kenpachi, both loners with their loyal followers, both memories of a more cruel gotei and both with vice captains of their own creation
I know it's not related, but when nemu is using the soul cannon, look at her eyes, there's only 3 people I've seen in bleach with eyes like it, and one of them is anime exclusive, yhwach, the soul king and ichigo, all of which are at 100% of their potential, exept maybe ichigo cos he was just getting visions, but that's just a fun thought
That line at 17:31 from Mayuri, he really got attached to Nemu. I kinda wanted to see this changed version of Mayuri earlier in the story, to see him break away from the sadistic mad scientist with no respect for human life and to have treated her a little more than the thing he created. After all Nemu is quite the likable character when she shows emotions and I was sad she died. Well, spoilers alert, at least Nemuri Nanagou
Yep he’s always ahead he knew if she was ever ingested by a monster or creature like Pernida he would need to implement something in her which he did and Pernida ate her pituitary gland on its own leading to his demise
Letzt Stil Final Getsuga Tenshou Stark's Wolves We have seen those kinds of power, but never to that extreme. I think she got inspired by Uryu's Letzt Stil.
This power up seems to be close to what ichigo gets with final getsuga. Nemu uses her soul as a fuel for power, and it is an incredible amount of power, but it had time limit, the same way that Ichigo's power did. The way in wich Pernida is defeated, seems to imply that Nemu should be able to live forever, the same way usual soul does, but in the same vein as Ichigo putting everything on the line burns this power.
Some people try and tell me that she isn’t Mayuri’s strongest weapon and creation but she proves it here and Mayuri shows that he is always ahead of the curve in every battle since he knew to make a fail safe in her body in case she was ingested or parts of her were that’s why he made Nemu’s pituitary gland deadly if ingested on it’s own causing the monster or creature who ate it to have excessive growth leading to it’s self destruction Mayuri is always ahead in one way or another he did it to Szayelaporro when Szayel absorbed Nemu’s life force and was reborn he ingested Mayuri’s superhuman potion because Mayuri put it inside Nemu before that battle in case she was eaten or absorbed in a fight that’s why he’s the GOAT Mayuri is the only one to actually kill an elite Sternritter no one else did not Kisuke, Shunsui, Kenpachi, Byakuya, or Toshiro
People really get the Pituitary Gland function wrong. Mayuri didn't build that just in case an enemy eats her. He built that so that she could live longer since her cells would die after 4 years, it was his work around that problem. Her brain acted as a failsafe so that it would regulate her cells dying and multiplying. *It wasn't a matter of thinking ahead of an enemy in battle, it was a matter of trying to successfully create an artificial soul.*
@@GamblerOfFate777 I mean that's because Pernida suddenly became stupid and decided to eat Nemu. If Pernida doesn't do that Mayuri is pretty much dead since he like Urahara ran out of tricks. I say this as someone who hates Pernida for killing Nemu.
@@seaside9061 It fits Pernida’s personality though he is a grotesque monstrous arm with horrible Complusive urges and he thinks it’s an obligation that he has to do it and that does fit his Schrift The Compulsory 🤷🏻♂️
@GamblerOfFate777 Pernida wasn't behaving like that at the start like a mindless monster. If it's supposed to evolve you'd think it'd evolve in intelligence, but instead it became a ravenous monster. That's not evolution, that's degeneration.
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This overclocking thing has been a consistent trend in Bleach (and a lot of shonen for that matter). I wonder how much it lines up with something like Mugetsu (since Isshin knew about that), so I always thought Kisuke and Mayuri effectively made a synthetic version of that in their respective labs, but in Mayuri's case it was done unintentionally
ok, I've been wondering this for a while, considering the level of power Nemu shows here, what happen with her after her death? does she would be sent to Hell?
No Mayuri saved her Brain from being absorbed by Pernida but he left her Pituitary Gland for Pernida to eat and absorb which led to Pernida’s death because Mayuri made sure if anything consumed a part of her brain like that Gland they would have excessive growth leading to their death he took the brain he saved and used it to create a new version of her on his first try and she is named Nemuri he’s always ahead of the curve in battles that’s why I love Mayuri
@GamblerOfFate777 I Don't think it's the same exact brain since Nemuri Hachigo doesn't even act nothing like Nemuri Nanago. Rather I think Mayuri based Hachigo off of what he did with Nanago meaning he used the same method of having a brain that regulated her cells. As for Nemuri Nanago I believe that her brain might be stored in one of cylinders that the other pieces of the past Nemuri project was stored in. We might see her in hell due to the vast reietsu that she had possessed
Kon, mod souls, Ururu, Nemu and then the latter two's combat forms. I think these all represent designs and ideas Kubo never managed to fit into the story, but were parts of the world he really wanted to include. Mayhap if Bleach or its British witch counterpart ever get more content, the concept of artificial souls will be explored more. One can only hope.
I'd say she's the strongest after renji While renji might not be able to do stuff nemu does vice-versa is also true I'm pretty sure nemu would fight renji well during those 400 seconds but i don't think that would be enough to take renji down
I’ll be honest. She’s incredibly powerful but I do think it would have been cooler if she was able to maintain a 100% against Pernida after using vollstandig. It would be a nice chance for the anime and her death would still achieve the same outcome.
I feel like regarding raw power mayuri and pernida aren’t really displaying much of that. Like let’s take the rest of the schutuffel they’ve all had large and flashy attacks that decimated lands but pernida didn’t, it’s power is mainly in its adaptability and hax same with mayuri. It didn’t seem to be too durable just impossible to kill. Which is why seeing nemu possibly do the most destructive damage in a large scale seems so impressive which it really is. All i’m saying is that someone like renji might be able to do the same regarding destroying pernidas arm but regarding raw strength that’s about all they’d be able to do. Not actually beat pernida. Realistically those attacks that nemu did pernida was able to almost instantly recover
I still don’t understand how Nemu is supposed to surpass everything Urahara has done up until now? - he created the hogyoku on a whim - has Ururu and Jinta for the worst case scenario - trained Ichigo who is a legendary hero in soul society
I think I agree, but Bleach is so damn bursting at the seams with Deus Ex Machinas (that don't even have the slightest hint of foreshadowing) that it makes the point moot.
As a benchmark we know for a fact nemu here is stronger than base zaraki since pernida after touching kenpachi levelled up to his level of strength and gained the ability to speak like him. The same way it gained the skin shedding ability from ashisogi jizo. And not just a little bit stronger than base zaraki cause she absolutely blew through pernida. She could be on the level of Shikai kenpachi. Which kinda makes no sense but whatever I’m here for it nemu is sick.
I really don't like the final getsuga twist, but it kinda makes sense when compared to what Nemu does here. Ichigo uses 100% of his power and in result "dies" as a shinigami - he lives on as a human.
its depends on how you see a God,for me there are low lvl God´s(a beeing that is just so strong that other´s thing it is a God) and there is a transcended God a beeing beyond everyone and everyting it can whipe out a low lvl God as it if were a fly Like Eru Ilúvatar in Lords of the Rings.
Sounds like she maxxed out from the beginning not trying to save herself. If her master was defeated, it would have been almost disrespectful to not try her hardest to win
@@darkknight6219 So Yorouchi and Kenpachi both get defeated near instantly, but Nemu is able to out speed pernida tendrils when they couldn't. Hence why she seems crazy strong
Funnily enough, Nemu and Ururu are two of my favourite Bleach girls, guess I got a soft spot for cute girls who can turn dangerous with a flip of a switch.
During the finale of their battle against Pernida, does Nemu become the strongest Vice-Captain we've ever seen? I'm inclined to say yes...but let me know your thoughts! Is there anyone else who could decimate a member of the Schutzstaffel like that?
Honestly, since we're only talking about vice-captains, I believe Nemu was the strongest at that moment. The other vice-captains would not have been able to defeat the Schutzstaffel without any help from the other vice-captains, so yes, I agree with your answer. Second, even if Rukia and Renji had teamed up with their Royal Palace training, it's still the left arm of the Soul King. They would not have known that it can evolve beyond their capabilities.
I think on par with renji and hisagi
Sasikibe was capable of this with bankai but he wouldn't expire from it so i give him the nod.
I think renji and rukia would also put up a better fight against pernida. The royal training didn't just make them achieve 100% of their power, it increased what their 100% was. They're still above Nemu too.
@@coolspider10I'd agree with the other thing you said but I dont think that all vice captain working together could even win against 1 elite sternritter..
Pernida, no one can see it's invisible nerves and would speed blitz all of them (even adapt to all of them if needed to)
Lille is intangible and would one shots everyone literally
Askin is the closest one they can defeat as long as he's caught off guard but i cant think of any vice captains that is near intelligent as Urahara.. they'd lose due to lack of plan.
Gerard? lmao bro is ridiculously strong.. 4 captains + vice captains + vizards cant even kill him..
Imagine the new kid Nemu potential.. new technology upgrades or perhaps even mixed with Pernida dna?
cant wait for the Pernida fight to be animated, man. i'm hopeful it's gonna be fantastic
It’s going to be absolutely amazing
I'm more interested in the aftermath with hallucination szayelaporro honestly. The sound mixing and visuals for the emotive parts in the animated TYBW arc has been top tier, interested to see what direction Mayuri's VA will take it too.
@@niko-and-coI hope it's a 2 part fight
Ong, imagine it beats kaido vs luffy in terms of animation
Who knows they might even add more scenes to the fight new abilities 😭🔥
Mayuri/Nemu vs Pernida is the craziest battle of the TYBW arc to me. I really hope it gets properly highlighted in cour 3.
I trust Kubo will make sure it's done right!
holy moly i'm looking so forward to those fights. i've enjoyed most of them so far. i just wish it was like twice as long. but i get it, at the same time. here, they aren't really like "oh man, i hoped i wouldn't have to use this ability. but i've waited long enough." here they are like "oh it's time to bring the maximum pain that i can almost fast as possible."
Bruh how??? They’re are no flashy attacks 😢
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Nemu is great. I love how the TYBW gave her time to shine.
The amount of characters in bleach with game breaking potential and/or power is _insane,_ Ichigo was just the most readily apparent one.
I love it.
Every character has the potential to be game breaking. That was established multiple times with the most notable figure being Yamamoto and Aizen. They mastered every skill they had at their disposal and pushed themselves to the end to reach the upper levels of power. They weren't the strongest being ever but are talking points for the top 10 as just soul reapers.
Hybrids have higher ceilings so can reach potentially higher levels of power it still takes time and effort to do so.
Nemu probably had this power all the time but did not use it because she felt Mayuri could handle anything. And she just allowed herself to be
treated badly to somehow help him out. But when she sees her Captain\father figure in real danger she flips the switch and becomes a demon.
It was great to see her shine for once.
She had quite the character arc and is an overall badass. Nemo is top tier.
Indeed. Her sacrifice was tragic, but it is touching that Akon notes that Mayuri seemed to have been grieving in his own way during CFYOW. It also leading to Mayuri becoming a much better father to Nemuri Hachigo is also heartwarming.
@@jrgenvellesen7800 True that. He certainly turned his own leaf. I just liked how he utterly snubbed Tokinada's dying tirades at the novel's end.
@@manuelacosta9463 That was very satisfying. For the man who wanted to ensure chaos across the realms to be completely ignored in his dying moments, that was some poetic karma. Mayuri gave Tokinada exactly what he deserved.
@@jrgenvellesen7800 Indeed. He also wanted to be infamous in history, yet his death has been brushed off as the typically brutal noble infighting. A mere footnote. Mayuri does not concern himself with such base trivialities.
@@manuelacosta9463 Yes. Mayuri has better thing to do with his time. That being the endless pursuit of scientific progress!
Mayuri: Get back, Nemu!
Nemu: Release restraint. Level one.
Mayuri is so goddam smart it's scary.
He’s always ahead of the curve he knows anything can happen so he makes sure there is a fail safe or reverse uno card in every single one of his weapons and creations like Nemu
Also his adaptability during battle is crazy
And to think Urahara is smarter than him…
@@GamblerOfFate777 Precisely
Urahara solos
When it comes to Nemu, daddy issues is a huge understatement.
I just wish it went further to the point that she rejected her father instead.
Don't forget you can also say Mommy issues as well here
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Kubo really does love this motif in his writing. The power skip that has a often bad or detrimental effect on the user. Its only through hard work that a person can gain a permanent strength as we see with ichigo.
Nemu: Eight Gate, Gate of Death
Pernida: THE FUCK?!
My thoughts exactly.
Nemu turned into a baddie for tybw
They better do that ass panel justice
Nemu at max power is how I feel Bankai should be treated, not in terms of sheer power but in how costly it is to use and maintain, otherwise we get things like Arrancar arc Ichigo who never drops bankai.
@@Dothomir777 Personally, I disagree because otherwise it becomes harder to justify actually using Bankai at all, especially if the situation escalates.
Bankais are too diverse to have this as a rule, we have some that are of this type, like soi fon, but the fun of them is how they match their wearer and how they can change the game completely.
I wish we got to see more of Nemu in the glowing outfit made me laugh so much
Mayuri is definitely one of my favorite characters , I always liked nemu too , so excited for this .
I would absolutely love to see a Tekking collab. An old-school viewpoint compared to the current day would be interesting.
Cant wait to see her and mayuri battle in cour 3!
Nemu's last act feels a lot like opening the eighth gate from Naruto, insane power by burning up their own lifeforce that 400 seconds was how much time she has left burning at this speed
I always wonder what Ururu is, and now that you've made the comparison to her and Nemu, it just makes way to much sense.
Another way to albeit more dirty analogy would be to say that this is an imperfect type of Mugetsu.
Unlike Ichigo who could survive using that ability Nemu use would effectively end her for all practical purposes.
Still makes her hands down the strongest Vice Captain that we have feats on.
Makes me wonder where sasikibe falls on the power scaling🤔
No matter Nemu is #1
She was destroying her soul,just like Mugetsu or Uryuu's technique.
Mugetsu and Letzt Stil does't kill the user though, this is closer to Komamura.
@@0eyes
Not the same to komamura's sacrifice too..
Mugetsu and letz still dont kill you after sacrificing all your power.
Komamura's ritual doesn't kill him either but just transform him to a normal dog or should i say cursed him to become a normal dog.
Nemu soul shave directly kills her after timer.. No method of saving can be done because it's not harming her on physical level.. It just straight up uses all her life energy and
she dont get to live to see another day after the fight al or does she get to transform into an animal..
she's straight up just gonna be gone after using it.
It reminds me more of what Starrk did with how she can split her soul apart. Also operating at a capacity far beyond her limits that'll ultimately destroy her reminds me of the kaioken attack.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the anime extends this fight with Nemu 🤞
Mayuris inventions are consistently shown to scale above him in terms of power so it makes perfect sense for Nemu to be thus strong. Kubo decided to draw her as extra thicc for this arc😏
She’s like Ururu, but just better.
Yep making Mayuri ahead of Kisuke in that area of creation 👍🏻
@@GamblerOfFate777 Until Kisuke decides to _try_
@@GamblerOfFate777Mayuri had a ton of resources and support that Kisuke did not have access to
@@randomdude6446A ton of resources he created himself 🤷♂️
Depends how you look at it.
Her peak is above Ururu's, but unlike Ururu, her power kills her.
Ururu is also anti-hollow from what I remember, considering how badly she clobbered il forte. Doubtful she can do anything on the same level to a quincy.
SO what's better is up to personal discretion: unsustainable but unrivaled power, or sustainable but manageable power.
her power is growth, his power is stillness. they are perfect reflections of the 2 arms of the Reio.
I've always thought Nemu was one of the top 3 Lieutenants.
This is the fight I'm looking forward to!!
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Absolutely, in fact She'd trash multiple captains.
As for the vice-captains specifically, Nemu is above all of them, you'd have to include stuff like lieutenant Aizen or something.
No captain is going to let her get a charge boost on them.
@@0eyes Pernida was literally stated to have evolved to kenpachi's level in speed, that's already beyond the vast majority of captains, I'd advice re-reading the manga.
Tittles in Bleach, such as "Captain level" are meaningless and crazy inconsistent.
@@pepeelghetto1231 There are several Hacks tha power just can't beat in Bleach. She was completely immobilized by her Captians Shikai, just his first release. Wha could she do against someone like Sinji? She would never know where to actually Aim. How could she handle some one like Hisagi?
@@harrisonhurst6480 Kenpachi himself was restrained by Mayuri's shikai.
And y'all overrate hax way too much.
Nemu wouldnt be able to hit Shinji? Even then, She has the speed to run circles around him, so He can't hit her either.
Same thing with hisagi, He doesnt have the stats to chase Nemu down, He'd get tired before Nemu does.
Hax =/= autowin, in fact, most of the time people defending hax characters tend to put an arbitrary line on how far hax can carry them.
You would never say Kenpschi would lose to Shinji, but somehow Nemu does? That my friend is an arbitrary line you are deciding subjectively, but the scaling simply.puts you wrong.
Stats can allow raw power fighters to bypass or even replicate the practical effects of certain hax (Say, shunsui's bankai is a one shot... but Byakuya can Ikka senjikka and thats a one shot too), there's a reason characters like Kenpschi and Byakuya can actually compete despite being raw power only, same with Ichigo himself.
Lastly, Im talking scaling. Nemu scales to vastly superior levels than shinji and co, that's an objective measure, not some subjective stuff like "Well shinji hax sound powerful, he must win bc that ability cool brou, and he captain".
@@harrisonhurst6480 Shinji would get speed blitz, bro cant even perceived a blast from a bomb.. I doubt a bomb is faster than post Unohana fight Zaraki
Outside Yamamoto, Unohana, Zaraki, Mayuri, Adult Toshiro, Shunsui or Bankai Komamura..
No other captain can defeat a full powered Nemu.. The only way to survive is to be faster than her which means you need to be above base tybw zaraki in terms of stats wise or have someone like a crazy regeneration, immortality, or abilities that can render Nemu's movement..
A direct full soul cannon to the face from Nemu would turn most of the captain into red paste..
Seriously comfort videos don’t think they a tommo video out there that isn’t peak comfort . For myself at least, Brethren.
I think this fight and her power boost was even more impressive because we finally got to see her real emotions, not just being blunt doll ❤
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I think it has something to do with the power of the soul especially with the upcoming hell arc. And the entire concept of soul reapers performing that thing to pass on souls to keep balance.
The thing is, Nemu isn't that powerful at least not all the time. She's able to accomplish these insane fears by shaving off her very soul which essentially will lead to her death. It's kind of like the 8 gates technique from Naruto. If she's not capable of these feats on a normal basis, then I think your previous ranking of her is pretty accurate. I do think Renji could actually hurt pernida since he's capable of hurting Gerard while in Shikai. In terms of raw power and physical stats, Renji is in fact superior to Mayuri by a significant margin.
I like the contrast that Nemu was basically a robot until Ishida showed her how love can push you to do great things to protect what you love. Thus Ishida felt it was needed to make a great sacrifice. Nemu did the same thing here for someone she loved to protect them at an even greater cost than Ishida's. As far as strength goes, the argument boils down to who is strongest between Nemu, Renji, Kensei and Rose. Mask mopped the floor with Hisagi, Yumichika, and Ikkaku, and after some boosting from James pooped on Rose and Kensei. Renji no diffed mask, so that to me places him deep in captain level. Nemu had to carve her soul out and kill herself to damage and disperse Pernida, so is it a greater feat sure, but Renji didn't die. As Byakuya said himself you can't protect shit if you're dead. If Renji went kamikaze with a Final Zaga Teppo I'm sure he could reach far higher heights then Nemu. But this is all extrapolation from what we've seen.
This is so crazy i had no clue. Can't wait for this, might actully be the best fight in Bleach but TYBW has a lot of them.
I think theres a video to me made examining the parallels between mayruri and kenpachi, both loners with their loyal followers, both memories of a more cruel gotei and both with vice captains of their own creation
I know it's not related, but when nemu is using the soul cannon, look at her eyes, there's only 3 people I've seen in bleach with eyes like it, and one of them is anime exclusive, yhwach, the soul king and ichigo, all of which are at 100% of their potential, exept maybe ichigo cos he was just getting visions, but that's just a fun thought
For me, the most surprising thing about this whole revelation is hwo Mayuri had nay idea what he'd created after all this time.
I like how you warded off or killed like 3 players at separate points on the boat while Mr. Marx and I were just chatting
That line at 17:31 from Mayuri, he really got attached to Nemu. I kinda wanted to see this changed version of Mayuri earlier in the story, to see him break away from the sadistic mad scientist with no respect for human life and to have treated her a little more than the thing he created. After all Nemu is quite the likable character when she shows emotions and I was sad she died. Well, spoilers alert, at least Nemuri Nanagou
It’s crazy how most of the side characters are at their absolute peak during the tybw arc
Your videos butter My biscuits thank you
I know right
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Still hurts that Kubo took Nemu away from us
You and me both, I'll never forgive him 😢
Meh.......
@@seaside9061 Likewise. Nemu deserved to live and kick Mayuri's ass with those amazing legs of hers.
Mayuri is basically the Rick Sanchez of this series. Has a contingency for literally everything.
Yep he’s always ahead he knew if she was ever ingested by a monster or creature like Pernida he would need to implement something in her which he did and Pernida ate her pituitary gland on its own leading to his demise
Does that make Urahara, like... Mega Rick?
Letzt Stil
Final Getsuga Tenshou
Stark's Wolves
We have seen those kinds of power, but never to that extreme. I think she got inspired by Uryu's Letzt Stil.
How cour 3 is going to out do this fight in anime form really got my attention.
This power up seems to be close to what ichigo gets with final getsuga. Nemu uses her soul as a fuel for power, and it is an incredible amount of power, but it had time limit, the same way that Ichigo's power did.
The way in wich Pernida is defeated, seems to imply that Nemu should be able to live forever, the same way usual soul does, but in the same vein as Ichigo putting everything on the line burns this power.
Some people try and tell me that she isn’t Mayuri’s strongest weapon and creation but she proves it here and Mayuri shows that he is always ahead of the curve in every battle since he knew to make a fail safe in her body in case she was ingested or parts of her were that’s why he made Nemu’s pituitary gland deadly if ingested on it’s own causing the monster or creature who ate it to have excessive growth leading to it’s self destruction Mayuri is always ahead in one way or another he did it to Szayelaporro when Szayel absorbed Nemu’s life force and was reborn he ingested Mayuri’s superhuman potion because Mayuri put it inside Nemu before that battle in case she was eaten or absorbed in a fight that’s why he’s the GOAT Mayuri is the only one to actually kill an elite Sternritter no one else did not Kisuke, Shunsui, Kenpachi, Byakuya, or Toshiro
People really get the Pituitary Gland function wrong. Mayuri didn't build that just in case an enemy eats her. He built that so that she could live longer since her cells would die after 4 years, it was his work around that problem. Her brain acted as a failsafe so that it would regulate her cells dying and multiplying. *It wasn't a matter of thinking ahead of an enemy in battle, it was a matter of trying to successfully create an artificial soul.*
@@seaside9061 Well it worked out both ways in the end he killed Pernida with it lol
@@GamblerOfFate777 I mean that's because Pernida suddenly became stupid and decided to eat Nemu. If Pernida doesn't do that Mayuri is pretty much dead since he like Urahara ran out of tricks.
I say this as someone who hates Pernida for killing Nemu.
@@seaside9061 It fits Pernida’s personality though he is a grotesque monstrous arm with horrible Complusive urges and he thinks it’s an obligation that he has to do it and that does fit his Schrift The Compulsory 🤷🏻♂️
@GamblerOfFate777 Pernida wasn't behaving like that at the start like a mindless monster. If it's supposed to evolve you'd think it'd evolve in intelligence, but instead it became a ravenous monster. That's not evolution, that's degeneration.
Good video
Dang I didn’t expect myself crying over Nèmū today but… man is this such a standout moment in the war… a character lost in a blaze of glorious combative achievement… making her spirit daddy proud killing Réīô’s Advancement!
Basically became exactly the death machine necessary to save her father in such a dramatic way it Almost completes Mayuri’s Character Growth arc as she’s finished his arc of Being a father whos probably learnt to care for and believe in their child, regardless of all the details…
I expect it to feel like one of the heaviest moments which might be totally dependant on… 3 voice actors and some excellent art?
We do know Kubo loves these characters in particular so I’d not be shocked if Everybody cries during this moment in the anime!
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Bravo, right?
Such an impactful moment for humanoids to even experience or have full comprehension of their own surprise over how their creations grow beyond their creators’ wildest imaginations!
It means a lot and making it Felt More may be one of the best moments of this bit of the anime’s serialisation!
It’s like marineford for the boy who wouldn’t cry naturally but maybe will evolve himself in seeing what she achieves…
Why do all the blade folks have to die this arc!? : /
Missing both Yáchīrū characters still!
But this is a Real moment for these V.A.s to show us what they can do!
Kubo really nailed making a classic moment with these scenes so I’m trying not to expect Too Much but… I think it’ll still hit regardless… everyone that rememebers the full character arc while watching is gonna get emotional…
Lean into it and even give some sad one piece flashback vibes if necessary!
I believe in the story when it hits readers/viewers like this moment feels!
I just hope the scenes don’t feel Rushed through! I want all the dramatic closeup reactions of the characters & mayuri’s Shock as his daughter dies saving him and most of everyone else that’d otherwise be endangered…
Always enjoy a proper shonen god battle but here it’s a heavier impact when it’s a characters child sacrificing themselves for other like a real hero while probably never thinking about heroics!
Really hope moments like this are brought to life with the right timing and pacing so people finally see how far Mayuri has come and how much further Nemu has than he can even comprehend!
This overclocking thing has been a consistent trend in Bleach (and a lot of shonen for that matter).
I wonder how much it lines up with something like Mugetsu (since Isshin knew about that), so I always thought Kisuke and Mayuri effectively made a synthetic version of that in their respective labs, but in Mayuri's case it was done unintentionally
How popular is Nemu outside of raunchy fan-art?
I would say a 2/10.....Because she doesn't do anything or use her Zanpakutō.
Yeah I've underrated her for ages. Those feats are actually really damn impressive.
Good video :)
After I read this fight, Nemo went from low-mid tier to one of my top 10 female characters in Bleach.
Hoping they nail that fight 😈
ok, I've been wondering this for a while, considering the level of power Nemu shows here, what happen with her after her death?
does she would be sent to Hell?
No Mayuri saved her Brain from being absorbed by Pernida but he left her Pituitary Gland for Pernida to eat and absorb which led to Pernida’s death because Mayuri made sure if anything consumed a part of her brain like that Gland they would have excessive growth leading to their death he took the brain he saved and used it to create a new version of her on his first try and she is named Nemuri he’s always ahead of the curve in battles that’s why I love Mayuri
@GamblerOfFate777 I Don't think it's the same exact brain since Nemuri Hachigo doesn't even act nothing like Nemuri Nanago. Rather I think Mayuri based Hachigo off of what he did with Nanago meaning he used the same method of having a brain that regulated her cells. As for Nemuri Nanago I believe that her brain might be stored in one of cylinders that the other pieces of the past Nemuri project was stored in.
We might see her in hell due to the vast reietsu that she had possessed
Soooo... Nemu in last seconds was like Ichigo FGT?
What does Mayuri do with her brain after?
Kon, mod souls, Ururu, Nemu and then the latter two's combat forms. I think these all represent designs and ideas Kubo never managed to fit into the story, but were parts of the world he really wanted to include.
Mayhap if Bleach or its British witch counterpart ever get more content, the concept of artificial souls will be explored more.
One can only hope.
I hope we see a little more of her fighting in the anime
Nemu is highly underrated.
I wonder if Mayuri knows that, Urahara has already created Ururu similar to Nemu ? Who was created first you think, Nemu or Ururu ?
I'd say she's the strongest after renji
While renji might not be able to do stuff nemu does vice-versa is also true
I'm pretty sure nemu would fight renji well during those 400 seconds but i don't think that would be enough to take renji down
I’ll be honest. She’s incredibly powerful but I do think it would have been cooler if she was able to maintain a 100% against Pernida after using vollstandig. It would be a nice chance for the anime and her death would still achieve the same outcome.
why didn't captain aizen kill unohana when they were still in seijoto kyorin
mayuri definitely knew what he was doing. take that however you want.
You know Mayuri’s a genius The way he makes sure to never abuse her in front of Ichigo
I feel like regarding raw power mayuri and pernida aren’t really displaying much of that. Like let’s take the rest of the schutuffel they’ve all had large and flashy attacks that decimated lands but pernida didn’t, it’s power is mainly in its adaptability and hax same with mayuri. It didn’t seem to be too durable just impossible to kill. Which is why seeing nemu possibly do the most destructive damage in a large scale seems so impressive which it really is. All i’m saying is that someone like renji might be able to do the same regarding destroying pernidas arm but regarding raw strength that’s about all they’d be able to do. Not actually beat pernida. Realistically those attacks that nemu did pernida was able to almost instantly recover
If she is an android, do you think that Kyoka Suigetsu works on her? Or she can detect or resist Aizen complete hypnosis power.
I still don’t understand how Nemu is supposed to surpass everything Urahara has done up until now?
- he created the hogyoku on a whim
- has Ururu and Jinta for the worst case scenario
- trained Ichigo who is a legendary hero in soul society
I view It as in that specific field. Ururu and Jinta certainly don't reach the levels Nemu does
Do you think Kubo will ever make Arturo Plateado canon?
So Nemu basically activated her version of the Final Getsuga.
I think I agree, but Bleach is so damn bursting at the seams with Deus Ex Machinas (that don't even have the slightest hint of foreshadowing) that it makes the point moot.
Nemu is my girl. One of them but Jesus Nemu is so bad-a
Nemu´s the Tenshinhan, with her own ki ko hu,
from Bleach ?)
As a benchmark we know for a fact nemu here is stronger than base zaraki since pernida after touching kenpachi levelled up to his level of strength and gained the ability to speak like him. The same way it gained the skin shedding ability from ashisogi jizo.
And not just a little bit stronger than base zaraki cause she absolutely blew through pernida. She could be on the level of Shikai kenpachi. Which kinda makes no sense but whatever I’m here for it nemu is sick.
For some reason, I still think it’s Renji. We didn’t see him do much and there is so much to be desired which was a good thing.
I really don't like the final getsuga twist, but it kinda makes sense when compared to what Nemu does here. Ichigo uses 100% of his power and in result "dies" as a shinigami - he lives on as a human.
Mayuri has Nemu on roids, but probably has a rule where she's not allowed to really do anything unless he says so or he's about to die.
Nemu is amazing second fav character..
Nemu is the queen
Nemu is a baddie
its depends on how you see a God,for me there are low lvl God´s(a beeing that is just so strong that other´s thing it is a God) and there is a transcended God a beeing beyond everyone and everyting it can whipe out a low lvl God as it if were a fly
Like Eru Ilúvatar in Lords of the Rings.
That arm also scales to Zaraki
When is the next cour?
The only slot left is october, and we're getting a sneak peak on the 6th of July.
Sounds like she maxxed out from the beginning not trying to save herself. If her master was defeated, it would have been almost disrespectful to not try her hardest to win
Renji’s bankai literally obliterated Mask 😂😂
Oh. It's her Baryon Mode. Neat.
This fight is going to be the wackiest of Cour 4, for sure.
its kinda like the final getsuga
time limit, insane power... its ... final
Pernida is not the first to be obliterated, and still reform to continue the fight
10:00 she Gohaned
It’s actually very similar to what Gon does in Hunter x Hunter in the chimera ant arc.
Would nemu be the idea of the value of a soul.
I dont but that shes better than yoroichi or Kenpachi. This seems like a mistake by kubo and Mayuri fans are eating it up
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, can you clarify?
@@darkknight6219 So Yorouchi and Kenpachi both get defeated near instantly, but Nemu is able to out speed pernida tendrils when they couldn't. Hence why she seems crazy strong
@@carsandsports123 In Kenpachi's case though he wasn't aware of Pernida's power, which is why he got folded immediately
Funnily enough, Nemu and Ururu are two of my favourite Bleach girls, guess I got a soft spot for cute girls who can turn dangerous with a flip of a switch.