I love the bass on these fortepianos. They have this clangy, metallic sound which brings a rawness to the music. Modern pianos "smooth" everything over.
Old instruments have generally a much richer sound, full of overtones. Modern instruments have a clean and focused sound, but you lose a lot of the unique character. It’s the same on violins, guitars etc.
I love that analogy. Modern pianos just evoke more romanticism, clear tones and longer sustain, better for Chopin etc. Beethoven and the fortepiano are a perfect marriage
you prolly dont give a shit but if you are bored like me during the covid times then you can stream all of the new movies on InstaFlixxer. Have been streaming with my brother these days :)
@@lonewolf604 The way I always think about it is the masters of past days learned to use every nuance of the instruments they had as opposed to the instruments that would eventually come out. Objectively speaking modern pianos are better in nearly every way, but Beethoven didn't have one and therefore he had to make due with what he had. Chopin on the other hand had pianos that are a lot closer to the modern piano we have. In fact the piano went through its most defining years during the romantic era and ultimately did not change that much after that. While there have been advancements in that last several decades in piano engineering, none of it has really changed the nature of the instrument. Only refined what was there. As such chopin, liszt and other romantic era composers play very nicely on modern instraments while classical era composers like Beethoven and mozart loose something given they wrote pieces specifically for the instruments of their day and ultimately used the qwerks of the instrument for musical effect.
Finally. An interpretation that makes sense. Normally there is just too much noise and it ends up moooshed into nothing meaningful. This interpretation on this instrument, such a relief. Thanks for sharing.
By far my favorite interpretation of this piece on RUclips. She brings out with clarity the role of the upper and lower registers which are lost on a modern piano.
Amo Beethoven più di ogni altro, così Mozart, e nei sui confronti provo un senso di colpa quando mi commuovo ascoltando Beethoven. Il fortepiano mi entra nel corpo e nell'anima ed è uno strumento meraviglioso. Grazie Giovanni
This has to be to way Beethoven probably played the piece. Also, I didn't think I could experience Beethoven like if it was the first time listening. This was amazing and I loved it!!!
This is by far my favourite interpretation of my favourite piano piece. I’ve loved Pathetique for so long on a modern piano. Hearing it played on this incredible fortepiano unlocks many layers of range constrained inside modern pianos. Petra’s phasing is perfect and celebrates the contrasting emotions that Beethoven intended. Bravissimo Petra! Please create a studio recording!
Superb. Lovely instrument - one of the best reproduction forte-pianos I've every heard, and the dynamics of this performance are really full range. Rather special.
I don't know if you've already seen this, but awhile after you left this comment, someone did post a video of her performing the Moonlight Sonata on (what appears to be) the very same instrument: ruclips.net/video/Ua_GHVEDCdI/видео.html
Absolutely incredible and stunning!! Petra’s genius interpretation coupled with the raw, pure sound of the fortepiano makes this performance an invigorating and awe inspiring experience! Words almost fail me here...
LOVE her playing! Drama where needed, technical skill, understanding of the sonata form as an architectonic manifestation. Love hearing this on a period instrument! KUDOS to using the music!
Webster Giles Smith. Dear Webster I love the interpretation and that she is allowed to use music. Hard to find that type of piano fortepiano. Your friend Julie
And again I listen to this amazing performance, dear Petra Somlai. Your interpretation is most convincing and you use all the colours of this beautiful instrument to paint such an amazing landscape of emotions. It is really one of my favorite interpretations.
Breathtaking level of expertise,even Beethoven himself may be shocked if he could only hear you play,not enough words in a dictionary to tell you how much I Love your music,even though it is Beethoven,it is actually Petra,thanks.
Joyful, passionate, majestic. A profound understanding and empathy of that great period in music, as well as the sonorities of the fortepiano. Very moving. Thank you. 🙏
Excellent! (For me that is) Yet funny to read the negative comments. Its like watching kids eating sweets and then throwing a tantrum over one piece of candy that didn't match their taste.
Acabo de escuchar su interpretación de la sonata n 8 de Beethoven, me ha encantado, he escuchado muchas veces esta sonata interpretada en un piano moderno, pero al escucharlo en un piano Forte me ha sorprendido para bien, su interpretación me ha encantado, pero el primer movimiento ha sido sensacional, la fuerza, el desgarro, el drama que usted consigue en las notas graves con este instrumento, no lo he oído nunca en un piano moderno con tal intensidad y fuerza, ha sido realmente fascinante, es mi versión favorita desde hoy de esta sonata. Gracias.
Love this performance! I hope she will one day re-record with no one around, I really hate the background noise from the live audience, was intrusive from the first few seconds.
Brava! I am glad that there are still people who remember what music means and are passionate in their convictions. Do not listen to the "modern" experts in their confusion. Continue to follow your timing and range which I find remarkably natural and very close to my own interpretations of this masterpiece when I was younger. Best Wishes....
Great Petra, outstanding performance driving the excellent Chris Maene/Anton Walter like Ludwig in red zone with a maximum of power, sensibility and musical intelligence!
Dem Kommentar kann ich mit vollem Herzen ❤️ zustimmen. Ich hätte nicht gedacht dass ich Beethoven einmal so interpretiert höher würde. Danke für diese Aufführung. Rasmus aus Schweden 🙏🙏🙏🙏🎹
I finally get why in the beethoven movie they talk about the violence of his music. That keyboard is pretty hardcore loud when she bangs the low notes. The piano doesn't have volume range. This is a pretty cool instrument.
I've watched this great performance many times, and I don't get tired of watching it. I thing that it sounds like if Beethoven himself, and not this beautiful woman, was at the piano. Bravo!.
I'm listening to this in the background while focusing on other things, and then the chords just after the one-minute mark come and I'm boisterously reminded of what the modern piano loses by way of contrast compared with the instruments for which this music was written.
The public doesn’t know how lucky they are. If Alberto Sanna were to perform the sonata, no one would have had time to write a will before they were all dead of old age.
It is clear how crazily dramatic and expressive this instrument would have sounded to an audience used to the harpsichord, a proportion of whom would have been outraged at the wayward direction this new percussive technology was taking music.
This old fortepiano is messing with my brain😂 sometimes it sounds like a harpsichord, then a harp, then piano. Really interesting how much the piano has moved on since the 17 to 18 hundreds.
I love the bass on these fortepianos. They have this clangy, metallic sound which brings a rawness to the music. Modern pianos "smooth" everything over.
I view it as being more orchestral
There’s much more variation between single registers and much more variation on timbre depending on dynamics. also much better pedal effects frankly.
Old instruments have generally a much richer sound, full of overtones. Modern instruments have a clean and focused sound, but you lose a lot of the unique character. It’s the same on violins, guitars etc.
@@matttondr9282You’re obviously a musician. Your remarks are very specific and exact. Thanks.
@@matteomagurno3068You seem to be a pianist. Thanks for your comments.
She makes that instrument sound like a thousand bells for moments. And she reveals details hidden in the midst of shades. Fantastic!
I much prefer this to a steinway, why aren't these instruments more popular to use in piano concerts.
ruclips.net/video/JHLVdwc_uG0/видео.html
@@none_of_your_business so authentic. This was composed in 1798, a world of forte piano and harpsichords. It just sounds clunky on Stein way.
It's almost as though there's a ghost of a harpsichord whispering through the overtones of the fortepiano.
Yes like a ghost!
I love that analogy. Modern pianos just evoke more romanticism, clear tones and longer sustain, better for Chopin etc. Beethoven and the fortepiano are a perfect marriage
you prolly dont give a shit but if you are bored like me during the covid times then you can stream all of the new movies on InstaFlixxer. Have been streaming with my brother these days :)
@Nicholas Arthur Definitely, been using instaflixxer for since december myself =)
@@lonewolf604 The way I always think about it is the masters of past days learned to use every nuance of the instruments they had as opposed to the instruments that would eventually come out. Objectively speaking modern pianos are better in nearly every way, but Beethoven didn't have one and therefore he had to make due with what he had.
Chopin on the other hand had pianos that are a lot closer to the modern piano we have. In fact the piano went through its most defining years during the romantic era and ultimately did not change that much after that. While there have been advancements in that last several decades in piano engineering, none of it has really changed the nature of the instrument. Only refined what was there. As such chopin, liszt and other romantic era composers play very nicely on modern instraments while classical era composers like Beethoven and mozart loose something given they wrote pieces specifically for the instruments of their day and ultimately used the qwerks of the instrument for musical effect.
12:55 that page turn was smooth as hell
I found myself clapping at the end of the video alone in my room. Thank you Petra Somlai for such a breathtaking performance.
I just learned of the death of a dear friend half an hour ago. This music is helping me through the grief and shock. Thankyou.
Hey, I know it's been a while but I hope you are doing well. With love from Britain, Callum.
Finally. An interpretation that makes sense. Normally there is just too much noise and it ends up moooshed into nothing meaningful. This interpretation on this instrument, such a relief. Thanks for sharing.
Yep. The Steinway kills this.
What is all that background movement? Annoying audience.
@@scottalbers2518, arthritis.
@@davidklein5007 I agree, too mashed up and muddied.
@@davidklein5007 Yeah, too much unnecessary mushiness on a Steinway. This interpretation is perfectly delicate!!
By far my favorite interpretation of this piece on RUclips. She brings out with clarity the role of the upper and lower registers which are lost on a modern piano.
Amo Beethoven più di ogni altro, così Mozart, e nei sui confronti provo un senso di colpa quando mi commuovo ascoltando Beethoven. Il fortepiano mi entra nel corpo e nell'anima ed è uno strumento meraviglioso. Grazie Giovanni
This is really an ear opener. Like the first time you heard a beethoven symphony on period instruments...but this is even more dramatic.
I love her phrasing, especially the articulation at the end of a phrase. And the spaces in her tempo are beautiful.
I love this piano, glad that now we have recordings of what it really sounded like.
This has to be to way Beethoven probably played the piece. Also, I didn't think I could experience Beethoven like if it was the first time listening. This was amazing and I loved it!!!
Her playing is admirable.
This is by far my favourite interpretation of my favourite piano piece. I’ve loved Pathetique for so long on a modern piano. Hearing it played on this incredible fortepiano unlocks many layers of range constrained inside modern pianos. Petra’s phasing is perfect and celebrates the contrasting emotions that Beethoven intended. Bravissimo Petra! Please create a studio recording!
I love this woman's brilliant interpretation of this piece. One of my favorites that I've heard so far.
I can't stop listening to this, her interpretation is pure perfection. Bravo!
I have never liked the sound of the Fortepiano that is until today, she made that relic of a keyboard sound beautiful! Bravo!
Yah, she definitely does! I think of of the tricks is to have correct use of pedaling work, and she nailed it
Thank you Petra, Ludwig is present. Wonderful instrument.
1st Movement 0:09
2nd Movement 7:38
3rd Movement 12:33
Is there no 4th?
@@prototypeo1404 nope
Superb. Lovely instrument - one of the best reproduction forte-pianos I've every heard, and the dynamics of this performance are really full range. Rather special.
This is very fine! I could imagine Beethoven playing in this way. I would enjoy hearing more recordings by this artist.
I don't know if you've already seen this, but awhile after you left this comment, someone did post a video of her performing the Moonlight Sonata on (what appears to be) the very same instrument: ruclips.net/video/Ua_GHVEDCdI/видео.html
What a brilliant interpretation. Such an interesting, unique, and vibrant take on a popular classic.
Absolutely incredible and stunning!! Petra’s genius interpretation coupled with the raw, pure sound of the fortepiano makes this performance an invigorating and awe inspiring experience! Words almost fail me here...
The Rondo was spectacular. Great rubato and dynamics...what a treat.
LOVE her playing! Drama where needed, technical skill, understanding of the sonata form as an architectonic manifestation. Love hearing this on a period instrument! KUDOS to using the music!
Webster Giles Smith. Dear Webster I love the interpretation and that she is allowed to use music. Hard to find that type of piano fortepiano. Your friend Julie
And again I listen to this amazing performance, dear Petra Somlai. Your interpretation is most convincing and you use all the colours of this beautiful instrument to paint such an amazing landscape of emotions. It is really one of my favorite interpretations.
Breathtaking level of expertise,even Beethoven himself may be shocked if he could only hear you play,not enough words in a dictionary to tell you how much I Love your music,even though it is Beethoven,it is actually Petra,thanks.
She surely brings out the nuances of the piece,
I think Ludwig would have enjoyed it.
Very fine tone in that piano.
Beethoven must likely played it this way. I love it !. Bravo Petra!.
Justice. To. Beethoven. Finally.
Die beste Interpretation die ich je gehört habe. Ich gartuliere Ihnen!!!
Wonderful playing on a wonderful instrument!
Played with passion and conviction. Memorization is a personal choice.
She played like she already memorized it! The score may just be for markings regards interpretation
Memorization was only a practice beginning in the 19th century.
The pure rage and tragic in the 1st movement, it is so perfect I say it doesn't miss by even a 0.0001 to me.
Bravo maestrina!
🎉🎉
i wish that could play a pianoforte like this one day!
Joyful, passionate, majestic. A profound understanding and empathy of that great period in music, as well as the sonorities of the fortepiano. Very moving. Thank you. 🙏
Bravo et merci votre interprétation est exceptionnelle portez-vous bien😊
I love the in strument and the interpretation!
Sounds wonderful, very nice!
From one musician to another: this is absolutely brilliant!
Excellent! (For me that is) Yet funny to read the negative comments. Its like watching kids eating sweets and then throwing a tantrum over one piece of candy that didn't match their taste.
An unbelievably good interpretation - this piece sounds perfect on the instrument
Acabo de escuchar su interpretación de la sonata n 8 de Beethoven, me ha encantado, he escuchado muchas veces esta sonata interpretada en un piano moderno, pero al escucharlo en un piano Forte me ha sorprendido para bien, su interpretación me ha encantado, pero el primer movimiento ha sido sensacional, la fuerza, el desgarro, el drama que usted consigue en las notas graves con este instrumento, no lo he oído nunca en un piano moderno con tal intensidad y fuerza, ha sido realmente fascinante, es mi versión favorita desde hoy de esta sonata. Gracias.
Estoy completamente de acuerdo contigo. El sonido que logra, la violencia y el canto logrados son maravillosos
Forbidable! Fantastic rubato!
Dazzling. Best I’ve ever heard.
What a sensitive instrument is this. Very beautifully played.
Absolutely astonishing
Merveilleux magistral bravo l'artiste merci😊
Love this performance! I hope she will one day re-record with no one around, I really hate the background noise from the live audience, was intrusive from the first few seconds.
Brava! I am glad that there are still people who remember what music means and are passionate in their convictions. Do not listen to the "modern" experts in their confusion. Continue to follow your timing and range which I find remarkably natural and very close to my own interpretations of this masterpiece when I was younger. Best Wishes....
Great Petra, outstanding performance driving the excellent Chris Maene/Anton Walter like Ludwig in red zone with a maximum of power, sensibility and musical intelligence!
And that is how you interpret Beethoven !!!
I appreciate your interpretation I never get tired of listening to him Keep going like that!
Dem Kommentar kann ich mit vollem Herzen ❤️ zustimmen. Ich hätte nicht gedacht dass ich Beethoven einmal so interpretiert höher würde. Danke für diese Aufführung. Rasmus aus Schweden 🙏🙏🙏🙏🎹
I finally get why in the beethoven movie they talk about the violence of his music. That keyboard is pretty hardcore loud when she bangs the low notes. The piano doesn't have volume range. This is a pretty cool instrument.
This is really exceptional playing. Chris Maene's MiNe109 is also outstanding in its genre.
Bravissima fa dei contrasti migliori di quelle che si fanno sul pianoforte moderno
The anger in this movement.. Thank you Petra
Beautiful playing. It's so interesting to hear a unique version of this much played work. Thank you.
Very talented girl! Best version of pathetique sonata
Großartig!!! Gänsehaut im Jahre 2020!!!
After all the deliberate or reverent recordings, this piece is dying for some spirited rubato, plus that mic-drop moment at the last note. Brava!
Precis som jag vill höra (och se) henne spela! Vill ha mera, helst här på RUclips, så jag hittar lätt. Bravo, Petra!
You are the only musician who has perfectly understand the truth sens of bach music
Beautiful absolutely amazing
Wow !! Amazing interpretation !! Brava !!
I really loved this!
So moving.
Great! This is the real thing. Thanks for sharing.
Excellent period piano player she s!
I've watched this great performance many times, and I don't get tired of watching it. I thing that it sounds like if Beethoven himself, and not this beautiful woman, was at the piano. Bravo!.
This is the true sound for that piece. I love it! Its another Beethoven! Well played too.
Que pasión que tiene esta mujer!
WOW !!! Just WOW
Just Beautiful!
I'm listening to this in the background while focusing on other things, and then the chords just after the one-minute mark come and I'm boisterously reminded of what the modern piano loses by way of contrast compared with the instruments for which this music was written.
The public doesn’t know how lucky they are. If Alberto Sanna were to perform the sonata, no one would have had time to write a will before they were all dead of old age.
This is so much more beautifully violent and passionate on a forte piano if that makes sense❤
I agree with you on Beethoven's willing touching with a genuine piano walter.
... merci pour les vidéos madame ...
Beautiful and powerful!
Prachtig!
A captivating performance! I thought the first movement good but not great; the second was beautifully played, and with the third she had me.
outstanding rendition
Bravo!
It is clear how crazily dramatic and expressive this instrument would have sounded to an audience used to the harpsichord, a proportion of whom would have been outraged at the wayward direction this new percussive technology was taking music.
Emotional, identifying.
STANDING OVATION!!!
Awesome Petra!
Bravissimo !!!
Simply incredible. In more ways than one.
Le maître Beethoven doit être fier merci😊
Me gustó mucho ... gracias ❤
I love period tuning, these pieces just always hit different down a half step, more despair
Very interesting, love it!
Wundervolle Interpretation!
beethoven on a forte piano is the most metal thing those old ladies and gentlemen in the audience ever listened to.
This is great!
great passion
The name pathétique really makes sense given the anguish of the ghostly bass of the Allegro con brio
This old fortepiano is messing with my brain😂 sometimes it sounds like a harpsichord, then a harp, then piano. Really interesting how much the piano has moved on since the 17 to 18 hundreds.
ruclips.net/video/JHLVdwc_uG0/видео.html
It's not old, it's a replica.