Beethoven Pathetique Petra Somlai

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  • Опубликовано: 4 мар 2017
  • Petra Somlai, fortepiano, copy Anton Walter (c.1795, Vienna) by Chris Maene, 2000
    Concert Paaskerk, Baarn (NL)
    November 5, 2016
    Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827)
    Piano Sonata No. 8 in C minor, Op. 13, 'Pathétique' (1798)
    Picture: Robert Smeekes & Louk van Dijk
    Sound: Kees Koudstaal
    ©2016 Prelude Baarn - All Rights Reserved.
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  • @datashed
    @datashed 3 года назад +125

    It's almost as though there's a ghost of a harpsichord whispering through the overtones of the fortepiano.

    • @pnoman316
      @pnoman316 3 года назад +2

      Yes like a ghost!

    • @lonewolf604
      @lonewolf604 3 года назад +21

      I love that analogy. Modern pianos just evoke more romanticism, clear tones and longer sustain, better for Chopin etc. Beethoven and the fortepiano are a perfect marriage

    • @nicholasarthur5525
      @nicholasarthur5525 3 года назад +1

      you prolly dont give a shit but if you are bored like me during the covid times then you can stream all of the new movies on InstaFlixxer. Have been streaming with my brother these days :)

    • @jesusrodrigo9827
      @jesusrodrigo9827 3 года назад +1

      @Nicholas Arthur Definitely, been using instaflixxer for since december myself =)

    • @zackeryhardy9504
      @zackeryhardy9504 Год назад +3

      @@lonewolf604 The way I always think about it is the masters of past days learned to use every nuance of the instruments they had as opposed to the instruments that would eventually come out. Objectively speaking modern pianos are better in nearly every way, but Beethoven didn't have one and therefore he had to make due with what he had.
      Chopin on the other hand had pianos that are a lot closer to the modern piano we have. In fact the piano went through its most defining years during the romantic era and ultimately did not change that much after that. While there have been advancements in that last several decades in piano engineering, none of it has really changed the nature of the instrument. Only refined what was there. As such chopin, liszt and other romantic era composers play very nicely on modern instraments while classical era composers like Beethoven and mozart loose something given they wrote pieces specifically for the instruments of their day and ultimately used the qwerks of the instrument for musical effect.

  • @mallorga1965
    @mallorga1965 2 года назад +89

    She makes that instrument sound like a thousand bells for moments. And she reveals details hidden in the midst of shades. Fantastic!

    • @none_of_your_business
      @none_of_your_business Год назад +3

      I much prefer this to a steinway, why aren't these instruments more popular to use in piano concerts.

    • @preludebaarn
      @preludebaarn  Год назад +2

      ruclips.net/video/JHLVdwc_uG0/видео.html

    • @nic123ification
      @nic123ification Год назад +3

      @@none_of_your_business so authentic. This was composed in 1798, a world of forte piano and harpsichords. It just sounds clunky on Stein way.

  • @usernotfound6475
    @usernotfound6475 3 года назад +48

    12:55 that page turn was smooth as hell

  • @johnbarry5036
    @johnbarry5036 Год назад +100

    I love the bass on these fortepianos. They have this clangy, metallic sound which brings a rawness to the music. Modern pianos "smooth" everything over.

    • @matteomagurno3068
      @matteomagurno3068 Год назад +1

      I view it as being more orchestral

    • @matteomagurno3068
      @matteomagurno3068 Год назад +4

      There’s much more variation between single registers and much more variation on timbre depending on dynamics. also much better pedal effects frankly.

    • @matttondr9282
      @matttondr9282 10 месяцев назад +6

      Old instruments have generally a much richer sound, full of overtones. Modern instruments have a clean and focused sound, but you lose a lot of the unique character. It’s the same on violins, guitars etc.

    • @srothbardt
      @srothbardt 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@matttondr9282You’re obviously a musician. Your remarks are very specific and exact. Thanks.

    • @srothbardt
      @srothbardt 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@matteomagurno3068You seem to be a pianist. Thanks for your comments.

  • @smguy7
    @smguy7 5 лет назад +81

    I just learned of the death of a dear friend half an hour ago. This music is helping me through the grief and shock. Thankyou.

    • @BaroqueBach.
      @BaroqueBach. Год назад +2

      Hey, I know it's been a while but I hope you are doing well. With love from Britain, Callum.

  • @miletone6221
    @miletone6221 2 года назад +25

    1st Movement 0:09
    2nd Movement 7:38
    3rd Movement 12:33

  • @dees3179
    @dees3179 5 лет назад +182

    Finally. An interpretation that makes sense. Normally there is just too much noise and it ends up moooshed into nothing meaningful. This interpretation on this instrument, such a relief. Thanks for sharing.

    • @davidklein5007
      @davidklein5007 5 лет назад +11

      Yep. The Steinway kills this.

    • @scottalbers2518
      @scottalbers2518 4 года назад +13

      What is all that background movement? Annoying audience.

    • @zombiemachinery4868
      @zombiemachinery4868 4 года назад +17

      @@scottalbers2518, arthritis.

    • @kentrosaurusboi3909
      @kentrosaurusboi3909 2 года назад +3

      @@davidklein5007 I agree, too mashed up and muddied.

    • @andymilstenmusic8520
      @andymilstenmusic8520 2 года назад +1

      @@davidklein5007 Yeah, too much unnecessary mushiness on a Steinway. This interpretation is perfectly delicate!!

  • @akemihikaru2989
    @akemihikaru2989 3 года назад +15

    What a crass, blaring, temperamental instrument....absolutely wonderful!

    • @kelvinyearwood8212
      @kelvinyearwood8212 11 месяцев назад +1

      Made me laugh. And Petra's so sexy, too. Beethoven would have fallen in love, but, alas, 'You are mad and ugly, Ludwig... Of course I'll marry you.'

  • @johnbarry5036
    @johnbarry5036 3 года назад +16

    This is really an ear opener. Like the first time you heard a beethoven symphony on period instruments...but this is even more dramatic.

  • @saldana7395
    @saldana7395 2 года назад +30

    This has to be to way Beethoven probably played the piece. Also, I didn't think I could experience Beethoven like if it was the first time listening. This was amazing and I loved it!!!

  • @karlmatsumoto9281
    @karlmatsumoto9281 2 года назад +51

    By far my favorite interpretation of this piece on RUclips. She brings out with clarity the role of the upper and lower registers which are lost on a modern piano.

  • @tonyb4192
    @tonyb4192 3 года назад +14

    I love her phrasing, especially the articulation at the end of a phrase. And the spaces in her tempo are beautiful.

  • @pnoman316
    @pnoman316 3 года назад +31

    I have never liked the sound of the Fortepiano that is until today, she made that relic of a keyboard sound beautiful! Bravo!

    • @75Chopin
      @75Chopin 3 года назад +2

      Yah, she definitely does! I think of of the tricks is to have correct use of pedaling work, and she nailed it

  • @adriengomez630
    @adriengomez630 2 года назад +14

    I love this piano, glad that now we have recordings of what it really sounded like.

  • @othurman
    @othurman 6 лет назад +66

    This is very fine! I could imagine Beethoven playing in this way. I would enjoy hearing more recordings by this artist.

    • @philipmcniel4908
      @philipmcniel4908 4 месяца назад

      I don't know if you've already seen this, but awhile after you left this comment, someone did post a video of her performing the Moonlight Sonata on (what appears to be) the very same instrument: ruclips.net/video/Ua_GHVEDCdI/видео.html

  • @MicoAquinoComposer
    @MicoAquinoComposer 2 года назад +12

    I can't stop listening to this, her interpretation is pure perfection. Bravo!

  • @AltoonaYourPiano
    @AltoonaYourPiano Год назад +8

    I love this woman's brilliant interpretation of this piece. One of my favorites that I've heard so far.

  • @lesptitsoiseaux
    @lesptitsoiseaux 2 года назад +9

    I finally get why in the beethoven movie they talk about the violence of his music. That keyboard is pretty hardcore loud when she bangs the low notes. The piano doesn't have volume range. This is a pretty cool instrument.

  • @unequally-tempered
    @unequally-tempered 4 года назад +21

    Superb. Lovely instrument - one of the best reproduction forte-pianos I've every heard, and the dynamics of this performance are really full range. Rather special.

  • @dennydoran6526
    @dennydoran6526 4 года назад +12

    Thank you Petra, Ludwig is present. Wonderful instrument.

  • @brad10000
    @brad10000 Год назад +8

    This is by far my favourite interpretation of my favourite piano piece. I’ve loved Pathetique for so long on a modern piano. Hearing it played on this incredible fortepiano unlocks many layers of range constrained inside modern pianos. Petra’s phasing is perfect and celebrates the contrasting emotions that Beethoven intended. Bravissimo Petra! Please create a studio recording!

  • @Brythepilgrim
    @Brythepilgrim 3 года назад +16

    Absolutely incredible and stunning!! Petra’s genius interpretation coupled with the raw, pure sound of the fortepiano makes this performance an invigorating and awe inspiring experience! Words almost fail me here...

  • @hritviknijhawan1737
    @hritviknijhawan1737 3 года назад +5

    The pure rage and tragic in the 1st movement, it is so perfect I say it doesn't miss by even a 0.0001 to me.

  • @giovannidicarpegna8948
    @giovannidicarpegna8948 Год назад +5

    Amo Beethoven più di ogni altro, così Mozart, e nei sui confronti provo un senso di colpa quando mi commuovo ascoltando Beethoven. Il fortepiano mi entra nel corpo e nell'anima ed è uno strumento meraviglioso. Grazie Giovanni

  • @armandoperez1062
    @armandoperez1062 5 лет назад +15

    Beethoven must likely played it this way. I love it !. Bravo Petra!.

  • @a.x.marcus4627
    @a.x.marcus4627 Год назад +4

    Her playing is admirable.

  • @christopherpratorius1200
    @christopherpratorius1200 3 года назад +4

    The Rondo was spectacular. Great rubato and dynamics...what a treat.

  • @fokkebaarda
    @fokkebaarda 3 года назад +15

    And again I listen to this amazing performance, dear Petra Somlai. Your interpretation is most convincing and you use all the colours of this beautiful instrument to paint such an amazing landscape of emotions. It is really one of my favorite interpretations.

  • @SyydRaven
    @SyydRaven 5 лет назад +48

    Played with passion and conviction. Memorization is a personal choice.

    • @75Chopin
      @75Chopin 3 года назад +14

      She played like she already memorized it! The score may just be for markings regards interpretation

    • @PassionPno
      @PassionPno Год назад +2

      Memorization was only a practice beginning in the 19th century.

  • @danielwaitzman2118
    @danielwaitzman2118 3 года назад +9

    Wonderful playing on a wonderful instrument!

  • @juliannewman2ndchannelmusi475
    @juliannewman2ndchannelmusi475 4 месяца назад +1

    I'm listening to this in the background while focusing on other things, and then the chords just after the one-minute mark come and I'm boisterously reminded of what the modern piano loses by way of contrast compared with the instruments for which this music was written.

  • @christian_florez
    @christian_florez Год назад +3

    What a brilliant interpretation. Such an interesting, unique, and vibrant take on a popular classic.

  • @webstergilessmith6947
    @webstergilessmith6947 5 лет назад +21

    LOVE her playing! Drama where needed, technical skill, understanding of the sonata form as an architectonic manifestation. Love hearing this on a period instrument! KUDOS to using the music!

    • @juliewhite4962
      @juliewhite4962 5 лет назад +2

      Webster Giles Smith. Dear Webster I love the interpretation and that she is allowed to use music. Hard to find that type of piano fortepiano. Your friend Julie

  • @mdrakic
    @mdrakic 4 года назад +14

    Justice. To. Beethoven. Finally.

  • @folkeholmberg3519
    @folkeholmberg3519 9 месяцев назад +2

    She surely brings out the nuances of the piece,
    I think Ludwig would have enjoyed it.
    Very fine tone in that piano.

  • @gilgermesch
    @gilgermesch 4 года назад +9

    From one musician to another: this is absolutely brilliant!

  • @jimmyhygaard2252
    @jimmyhygaard2252 Год назад +3

    Breathtaking level of expertise,even Beethoven himself may be shocked if he could only hear you play,not enough words in a dictionary to tell you how much I Love your music,even though it is Beethoven,it is actually Petra,thanks.

  • @robertfrowe7119
    @robertfrowe7119 5 лет назад +19

    Dazzling. Best I’ve ever heard.

  • @andrejsljunggren
    @andrejsljunggren 4 года назад +9

    Excellent! (For me that is) Yet funny to read the negative comments. Its like watching kids eating sweets and then throwing a tantrum over one piece of candy that didn't match their taste.

  • @HaritheRenaissanceMan
    @HaritheRenaissanceMan 3 года назад +9

    Love this performance! I hope she will one day re-record with no one around, I really hate the background noise from the live audience, was intrusive from the first few seconds.

  • @ManorHouseMusic
    @ManorHouseMusic 2 года назад +5

    Joyful, passionate, majestic. A profound understanding and empathy of that great period in music, as well as the sonorities of the fortepiano. Very moving. Thank you. 🙏

  • @markusaustria7952
    @markusaustria7952 3 года назад +4

    Great Petra, outstanding performance driving the excellent Chris Maene/Anton Walter like Ludwig in red zone with a maximum of power, sensibility and musical intelligence!

  • @paulwwells
    @paulwwells 3 месяца назад +1

    It is clear how crazily dramatic and expressive this instrument would have sounded to an audience used to the harpsichord, a proportion of whom would have been outraged at the wayward direction this new percussive technology was taking music.

  • @maurozanchetta648
    @maurozanchetta648 Год назад +2

    I love the in strument and the interpretation!

  • @brentmeistergeneral2813
    @brentmeistergeneral2813 Год назад +1

    The anger in this movement.. Thank you Petra

  • @davidklein5007
    @davidklein5007 5 лет назад +6

    This is really exceptional playing. Chris Maene's MiNe109 is also outstanding in its genre.

  • @maximpfeifer
    @maximpfeifer 9 месяцев назад +2

    Sounds wonderful, very nice!

  • @zuszerotin1701
    @zuszerotin1701 4 года назад +12

    Die beste Interpretation die ich je gehört habe. Ich gartuliere Ihnen!!!

  • @JR-ht8pn
    @JR-ht8pn 5 лет назад +9

    I appreciate your interpretation I never get tired of listening to him Keep going like that!

    • @Rasmus_Schweden
      @Rasmus_Schweden 8 месяцев назад +2

      Dem Kommentar kann ich mit vollem Herzen ❤️ zustimmen. Ich hätte nicht gedacht dass ich Beethoven einmal so interpretiert höher würde. Danke für diese Aufführung. Rasmus aus Schweden 🙏🙏🙏🙏🎹

  • @michaelthomheadley
    @michaelthomheadley Год назад +2

    An unbelievably good interpretation - this piece sounds perfect on the instrument

  • @sebastiaocosta4449
    @sebastiaocosta4449 Год назад +2

    Bravo maestrina!
    🎉🎉
    i wish that could play a pianoforte like this one day!

  • @Opoczynski
    @Opoczynski 5 лет назад +12

    Beautiful playing. It's so interesting to hear a unique version of this much played work. Thank you.

  • @simonprecheurllarena
    @simonprecheurllarena 4 года назад +6

    Absolutely astonishing

  • @freeman61
    @freeman61 3 года назад +8

    And that is how you interpret Beethoven !!!

  • @ManuelMartinez-hu7bx
    @ManuelMartinez-hu7bx 4 года назад +17

    Acabo de escuchar su interpretación de la sonata n 8 de Beethoven, me ha encantado, he escuchado muchas veces esta sonata interpretada en un piano moderno, pero al escucharlo en un piano Forte me ha sorprendido para bien, su interpretación me ha encantado, pero el primer movimiento ha sido sensacional, la fuerza, el desgarro, el drama que usted consigue en las notas graves con este instrumento, no lo he oído nunca en un piano moderno con tal intensidad y fuerza, ha sido realmente fascinante, es mi versión favorita desde hoy de esta sonata. Gracias.

    •  3 года назад +3

      Estoy completamente de acuerdo contigo. El sonido que logra, la violencia y el canto logrados son maravillosos

  • @andrews527
    @andrews527 5 лет назад +6

    After all the deliberate or reverent recordings, this piece is dying for some spirited rubato, plus that mic-drop moment at the last note. Brava!

  • @goldenlight2277
    @goldenlight2277 4 года назад +4

    What a sensitive instrument is this. Very beautifully played.

  • @suhonenN
    @suhonenN 6 лет назад +6

    Precis som jag vill höra (och se) henne spela! Vill ha mera, helst här på RUclips, så jag hittar lätt. Bravo, Petra!

  • @annakarenina7287
    @annakarenina7287 3 года назад +3

    Großartig!!! Gänsehaut im Jahre 2020!!!

  • @maestromusician5630
    @maestromusician5630 5 лет назад +13

    Brava! I am glad that there are still people who remember what music means and are passionate in their convictions. Do not listen to the "modern" experts in their confusion. Continue to follow your timing and range which I find remarkably natural and very close to my own interpretations of this masterpiece when I was younger. Best Wishes....

  • @svetlanagao1563
    @svetlanagao1563 4 года назад +4

    Very talented girl! Best version of pathetique sonata

  • @nic123ification
    @nic123ification Год назад +5

    This is so much more beautifully violent and passionate on a forte piano if that makes sense❤

    • @Cap-Nemo49
      @Cap-Nemo49 8 месяцев назад

      I agree with you on Beethoven's willing touching with a genuine piano walter.

  • @wblynch
    @wblynch 3 года назад +4

    WOW !!! Just WOW

  • @armandoperez1062
    @armandoperez1062 4 года назад +6

    I've watched this great performance many times, and I don't get tired of watching it. I thing that it sounds like if Beethoven himself, and not this beautiful woman, was at the piano. Bravo!.

  • @bennorris1476
    @bennorris1476 4 года назад +14

    This old fortepiano is messing with my brain😂 sometimes it sounds like a harpsichord, then a harp, then piano. Really interesting how much the piano has moved on since the 17 to 18 hundreds.

    • @preludebaarn
      @preludebaarn  Год назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/JHLVdwc_uG0/видео.html

    • @folkeholmberg3519
      @folkeholmberg3519 9 месяцев назад +1

      It's not old, it's a replica.

  • @Shost7
    @Shost7 4 года назад +4

    Wow !! Amazing interpretation !! Brava !!

  • @timlev37
    @timlev37 6 лет назад +7

    So moving.

  • @jakesmith3724
    @jakesmith3724 4 года назад +4

    Beautiful absolutely amazing

  • @muhittincankorkut6094
    @muhittincankorkut6094 5 лет назад +5

    I really loved this!

  • @jochanaan58
    @jochanaan58 4 года назад +4

    A captivating performance! I thought the first movement good but not great; the second was beautifully played, and with the third she had me.

  • @janingewijk5716
    @janingewijk5716 6 лет назад +24

    Forbidable! Fantastic rubato!

  • @javierbiaggi3072
    @javierbiaggi3072 4 года назад +7

    This is the true sound for that piece. I love it! Its another Beethoven! Well played too.

  • @carlosarias1368
    @carlosarias1368 3 года назад +2

    Great! This is the real thing. Thanks for sharing.

  • @75Chopin
    @75Chopin 3 года назад +2

    Excellent period piano player she s!

  • @supertal6074
    @supertal6074 Год назад +1

    Just Beautiful!

  • @pnoman316
    @pnoman316 3 года назад +1

    Beautiful and powerful!

  • @geiryvindeskeland5985
    @geiryvindeskeland5985 Год назад +3

    The public doesn’t know how lucky they are. If Alberto Sanna were to perform the sonata, no one would have had time to write a will before they were all dead of old age.

  • @ldgaming4213
    @ldgaming4213 3 месяца назад

    I love period tuning, these pieces just always hit different down a half step, more despair

  • @ootamanabu
    @ootamanabu 5 лет назад +7

    STANDING OVATION!!!

  • @bryanbarajasBB
    @bryanbarajasBB 4 года назад +1

    Very interesting, love it!

  • @hirogatin174
    @hirogatin174 6 лет назад +30

    LUDWIG VAN BEETHOVEN (1770-1827)
    Sonata for solo piano No. 8 in C minor, Opus 13 "Pathetíque" (1798):
    I. Grave - Allegro di molto e con brio.
    II. Adagio Cantabile. 7:31
    III. Rondo: Allegro. 12:32

  • @GiacomoPhilipp92
    @GiacomoPhilipp92 5 лет назад +11

    Wundervolle Interpretation!

  • @chessematics
    @chessematics Год назад +1

    The name pathétique really makes sense given the anguish of the ghostly bass of the Allegro con brio

  • @gaturroincorrecto8959
    @gaturroincorrecto8959 6 лет назад +16

    Emotional, identifying.

  • @handsfree1000
    @handsfree1000 5 лет назад +1

    Fantastic

  • @mihalymok7428
    @mihalymok7428 Год назад

    Finalmente! Bravo / mille baci 👌🍒

  • @he1ar1
    @he1ar1 7 месяцев назад

    Simply incredible. In more ways than one.

  • @henkmarinus
    @henkmarinus 3 года назад +3

    Prachtig!

  • @meltorment5152
    @meltorment5152 4 года назад +2

    Bravo!

  • @michelroussanne906
    @michelroussanne906 7 месяцев назад

    ... merci pour les vidéos madame ...

  • @lesterrocks2439
    @lesterrocks2439 Год назад

    This is great!

  • @dollerakos
    @dollerakos Год назад +1

    BRAVO PETRA!!! 👍👍👍

  • @YsAbTones
    @YsAbTones 5 месяцев назад

    outstansing rendition

  • @jimsanford9215
    @jimsanford9215 Год назад

    Awesome Petra!

  • @MarcosAlejandro1618
    @MarcosAlejandro1618 5 лет назад +3

    Que pasión que tiene esta mujer!

  • @AhimSaah
    @AhimSaah 5 лет назад +14

    What brand of pianoforte is that? I'm very curious.

    • @preludebaarn
      @preludebaarn  5 лет назад +14

      Fortepiano, copy Anton Walter (c.1795, Vienna) by Chris Maene, 2000

  • @carrietide
    @carrietide 2 года назад

    Beautiful

  • @luisdiaz05
    @luisdiaz05 3 года назад +1

    Bravissimo !!!

  • @FirebladeXXL
    @FirebladeXXL 2 года назад +2

    beethoven on a forte piano is the most metal thing those old ladies and gentlemen in the audience ever listened to.

  • @ChalieChaplin
    @ChalieChaplin 3 года назад

    OUTSTANDING :D