2023 Ski-Doo Renegade X-RS 850 Initial Impressions After 1400kms | Is It Better Then The Gen4?
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- Mike loads on his first 1400kms on his new 2023 Renegade 850 XRS and gives his initial thoughts on the new Gen5. Lots of good refinements this year but still a few kinks to be worked out. See what his thoughts are on this new trail weapon.
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They’re even nicer in person. Color scheme is awesome
Agreed Rob. This is my favourite looking Skidoo 850 to-date! Cheers, Mike
I really like that color scheme this year with those dark red spindles and rails....
Thanks buddy! Definitely love it ... Cheers, Mike
That is one sweet ride! Thanks for sharing
You bet! thanks for watching. Mike
Great video Mike. I’m sure you have heard by now but there is a bulletin out for the RPM issue. As for the gauge going dark it is being looked at now. Lastly, the gauge positioning, since Skidoo crates their sleds for shipment, if it were any higher it would not fit in the existing crates which would impact how many get on a truck. It would now take more trucks to deliver the same amount of sleds since you couldn’t stack 2 crates high. Hope this helps. Great review.
Thanks so much for the comment and info Ben. Great to hear that Skidoo is looking into some of these fixes, as they certainly are minimal. I don't know about the RPM bulletin unless its the same thing as it was for the Mach? Would appreciate any additional info you can help me with on this one. I didn't know that about the gauge but I recall Jesse mentioning something about this to me when you guys chatted. Again, appreciate you watching and supporting us. Cheers, Mike
Have you tried to connect Bluetooth headphones? I realize you use a communicator but I can't connect my headphones and getting nowhere. Worked perfectly in my Mach last year but new dash will find my earphones but just won't connect to either the driver or passenger helmet. Any help would be appreciated. Appreciate your videos lads.
Hey Dave. I haven't tried this simply because we are using Cardo's. Love our setup for music and comms and works great. Cheers, Mike
Any word on the fix for the rpm issue, my 23 850 did the same thing
@@bradlawson4559 there is a warranty bulletin out. Your software needs to be updated. Take it to the dealer, quick fix.
Like the hoodie. Hilarious - gotta get one!
It was the first thing I did when I saw it as we were checking into the Companion! It's a great hoodie! I've been wearing it non-stop. Cheers, Mike
I know BRP has issues across more than just sleds with gauges when the battery isn't fully charged. I mean fully fully charged. It still starts and runs fine but the gauges act up. I have seen this issue on my 2020 Can-am ATV and Spyder and 2022 Renegade. I started using a battery tender on them and they haven't had any issues at all since. I would throw it on a smart charger or battery tender for 24 hours before you go out riding and see if that solves your issue.
Thanks for the tip and definitely open to trying anything at this point! I know BRP is already on it, so we'll see what they say. Cheers, Mike
Great videos and narration 👍
Thank you kindly! Cheers, Mike
Mike, I have a 2022 XRS 850, I had the screen go out the first few weeks I had it last year….a dealer mechanic pulled a fuse which was on the right hand side under the panel, replaced it, it might of been loose, he moved the fuse, which is on a electrical line, so I had better access, and put new zip ties on it, never had the issue again.
Thanks very much for the info and definitely something I will check! Mike
This is strange. Never had a fuse work intermittently .. I had the same issue with my 22 that has the 7.8 guage.. I had it replaced and it still does the same thing.. If it were a fuse or dielectric grease then you would think Doo would of done that to my sled.. instead they installed a new guage with the same problem
Great review.
Thanks Aaron! We always say it as it is! Cheers, Jesse
Can you program the gauge to max out at 50km/h when recording video?! You could make the OFSC happy while still flying past blurred trees.
The sled looks better in person than when I saw it online, great review.
Ha! Nope but a smart idea for sure lol. It does look better in person for sure and thanks for watching along. Cheers, Mike
Did you ever figure the no top end issue? Mine was doing the same this past weekend. Just after break in was done. Max I’ve been getting is 7500
Dealer had some sort of recall plus I did some clutching work. Cheer, Jesse
Hey man I didn't hear you talk about adjusting the clickers on the clutch. There are 3 bolt that you can loosen and adjust there is a line on the bolt with a number on the clutch. Guaranteed that's your issue. Dealers really need to explain how to adjust the clutch. It's a 2 minute adjustment on the trail.
I'll try to keep this short and sweet because tuning clutches isn't so simple and just because you have clickers, doesn't mean it will solve the problem or run how some guys are expecting it to. Bottom line is right now there is a problem with the ecu mapping and it needs an update through the dealer. Start there, and then go and tune your clutches according to how you like to ride. Cheers, Mike
I think that new gauge will be glitching for a while until they work out the kinks. Hopefully next year they will add a GPS. It will be interesting to know why the rpms are dropping. Please let us know. Thanks .
Possibly Mark but hopefully they get it sorted. We found out tonight that there is a bulletin for the 23s and they need an ECU update. Hope this helps. Cheers, Mike
It’s GPS capable from the BRP app on your phone via Bluetooth.
I find the new side panels a bit tricky. Do you think the smart shocks are worth the $$$?
You just need to ensure the clip on the bottom of the panel is in before you close them. Definitely not perfect but easy once you get the hang of it. Cheers, Mike
Great video. I went with the 23 Rave this year because of the prohibitive cost of the new Turbo 2's Polaris offered and the fact they were gone within an hour of the store opening, haha. I will say I'm a bit disappointed with BRP gauge packages and their ability to link up the gps/phone etc.
Thanks so much for watching! The Rave is a sweet sled for sure and no doubt the Poo turbo would be wild! The GPS/Phone concerns have been there for many of us since day 1 and part of the reason we are still running Garmin's. Hoping to play around some more with it this year and see if anything has improved. Cheers, Mike
Thanks for the video. Did you have to clean the drive belt area or drive belt at all? Thanks
I try to clean every couple rides yes. Mike
Trails were mint!!!
Yep they were! Always a good time and great trails up there. Cheers Mike
The doo belts tend to be a little inconsistent, it's possible you're not getting the RPM you want because the hard doo belt is getting too hot and slipping on you. Have you considered trying a Gates Carbon Fiber belt? They're a bit softer and tend to grip the clutches a little better
I've had the same experience in the past as you. We just finished a weekend of more testing with it and we did find that an Ultimax belt really helped it. I've used Gates in the past and also Ultimax which is what I've been using for a long time and they work really well. Softer compound and grab clutches better as you said. We also found out that there is an ECU update this evening on the 23s for this issue. Cheers, Mike
Your fade is the cheap doo springs fading due to heat in your clutches. Replace them with a quality spring from Dalton. Or install a HRSS kit and be down with it. You run the XS821 correct?
That could be the case. We ended up fixing the problem with some minor clutch work and the sled is pulled 8000 rpm all day long now. Yes we are running the XS821s. Cheers, Jesse
I noticed my '21 Mxz Xrs was very sensitive to belt position and clutch cleanliness. If I adjusted my belt and cleaned my clutches often (nearly every ride) It was much more consistent on RPM. I'm on a '23 Renny Xrs 900r turbo this year, I'm hopeful the boost and clutch issues the Mach had are resolved. I run the standard 7.2 display and have never had an issue....im just sayin' LOL
As far as shocks go.... just get a standard Xrs and have a reputable shock rebuilder (ShockTec) to set them up for your weight and style. This is usually inexpensive and does wonders on the stock KYB's
Great info and thanks for the feedback. I adjusted the belt and also noticed it was running very high on this particular sled. Still didn't fix the issue when we played with it and there is a bulletin that just came out for the 23's that they apparently need ECU updates so that's the issue. I've owned a bunch with standard XRS KYBs and I really believe that the newer sleds with Smart Shocks ride so much better. Again, just my opinion but I'm done with messing around with clickers etc. I don't think the gauge is anything major either but hopefully it gets figured out. Cheers, Mike
@@sledaddicz Sounds good, and by all means, to each their own. I like to keep things simple but I also am a suspension fanatic, I like to be able to adjust the setup to fit my personal needs, not someone or some-thing else, but thats just me. Keep the great content coming...BTW, were heading too base camp this weekend, cant wait to burn in my turbo LOL Cheers!
You mentioned the bergstrum carbides on the Mach now. Did you mean to say snow trackers? Trying to decide between these for a 2023 renegade X 4 stroke?
I have both. I moved a set of bergs to the Mach this season to try. Cheers, Mike
Do you know when pre orders will come out for 2024?
I would assume end of Feb through to end of March as usual. Cheers, Jesse
The Gray is a bad look. Nice for keeping the tone down. Need the black yellow more.
Well good thing they have some options for colors for us all, right? This is my favourite but thanks for watching. Mike
Love the color but Mike Guliz is not impressed with Ski Doo not putting the Turbo on the Trail Sled 😂😂😂
I hear you and certainly could happen to compete with Poo. Time will tell. In any case, I'm curious to see how the Poos hold up and certainly don't think a TURBO trail is gonna be great for the long hauls! Cheers, Mike
Maybe the quickness and power is from a new clutch design?
RPM issue maybe caused from the plugs. My 08 Dragon 700 only ran well with Champions. Always had a skip in the mid range with NGR plugs. Plugs can be finicky.
The clutch hasnt changed in a few years. It was an ECU issue that was recently resolved. Cheers, Jesse
I can't say I'm a fan of the front end look,from the side great,but the look of the front I can't get beyond for some reason. Maybe it's the windshield,or lack thereof. Idk.Gen 4 for me
Once you see it in person, it really looks awesome. I have a low windshield and waiting on a medium which both give it a nice look. Nothing wrong with the Gen4! Thanks for watching and commenting. Cheers, Mike
@Sledaddicz Gen 5 is an improvement in looks! Looks are so subjective I guess, always a portion of people that will be negative about anything
@Steve Trepanier just because I have an opinion on the look makes me negative does it???
For rpm did u adjust the weights ?
You mean the clickers?
@@sledaddicz I think he means the primary clutch weights.
Why not get a 900 Ace Turbo? 🤔
We have one. Our Mach Z has the 900 turbo. We have put 4000 kms on it but we much prefer the 850s for us. Cheers, Jesse
You really should get a Polaris next tho- would add a TON of interest to the channel
We have 2 Polaris' in the group but probably could do some riding and video work with them. A 2019 XC850 and last year we got a 2022 VR1 which we love. Problem is we can't stay off our Doo 850s too long to ride them some more lol. Appreciate the comment and thanks for watching. Cheers, Mike
has anyone tried the cobra carbides?
We have a set to try this year. Cheers, Mike
Take it back to the dealer instead of messing around with it.
Likely, as we just found out it needs the ECU updated. Cheers, Mike
20k for a sled and you have to figure out problems? All these sleds keep going up in price & the quality keeps going down!!
I don't agree. All sleds have their issues. These were extremely minor and rectified very quickly. Cheers, Jesse
Why are people so interested in the stupid digital dash? I like to ride, not play video games.
Completely get your perspective but I think many of us have been adding to our overall sledding experience through the innovation and technology brands like Skidoo are driving with their product lines. I personally love listening to music while I ride. They make it all possible. Cheers, Mike
@@sledaddicz So riding is no longer fun without tech, that says a lot.
I would agree. Just give me rpm, fuel, temp & odo.
Although people want to be connected today. BRP is reacting to consumer demand.
Just hope the trails stay safe - don’t want to get smoked by a dood messing with his playlist or arguing with his g-friend…..lol.
Excellent work Sledaddicz.
@@mattie3595 Yes your right, they are trying to meet consumer demand and stay competitive with price forcing them to make cuts in places they shouldn't. The shame is that EVERY person I meet none of them are all that impressed with new tech because it never really works right and is really expensive to fix.
The XRS today is no longer a true bump sled. The last true version bump sled was the 2007 Rev xrs. I agree with others tech crap doesn't belong on sleds only the basics are needed. I have seen so many issues with these shock sensors faulty guages, springs etc. it's frustrating listening to people accepting it. At 20K+ it should be issue free period. I have riding, wrenching and building sleds for 40+ years and steer family and friends away from the tech junk on sleds.
Meh, get rid of the gadgets and put that money into quality. Not impressed.
Not sure I agree at all. The quality is definitely there and has been forever given they started this business. Thanks for your comment and for watching the channel. Mike
@@sledaddicz I don't agree at all, there is always room for quality and also consider the fact all that tech makes things less reliable. Right out of the gate your dash is flickering, soon it won't work and will cost a ton of money. Your machine also doesn't run right and you say quality is there???