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Great point about ball position, which is important not only back in the stance or forward in the stance, but also important if you are standing closer to the ball or further from the ball. Mike Adams believes he can measure various parameters on golfers and that will tell him what is the best way for that particular golfer to swing. I would love to see you make a video on that topic regarding Mike Adams.
Hey Steven, the measurements are nothing new in the golf swing, TPI has been doing this for 20 years. The thing I am not a fan of with Mike is he can be condescending and seems to reveal a fairly basic concept as if it was scripture, I don’t think he is doing this on purpose but I have heard him at our PGA meetings and he did the same thing. The one main thing he completely overlooked is ball position, and you can take all the measurements and make adjustments in setup you want, but if that ball position isn’t correct to your measurements, it throws off all forces. That to me is more basic knowledge than measurements, and the fact he completely disregarded it concerns me which is why I made those points. All respect to Mike, but maybe he assumed since he was talking to pga instructors they already knew, but it should have been mentioned as it’s on RUclips and it’s irresponsible (in my opinion) to not address that knowing average golfers would watch.
@@liongolfacademy I learned about the importance of ball position from many videos on your Lion Golf Academy website... and also to avoid a forward press of the hands at address.
Agree 100% The golf swing is complicated enough already :) A bit of side lateral bend and lumbar spine curvature would lower handicaps faster than trying the current jump around teaching trend imho
Not the biggest fan of Mike Adams but he's one of the most successful golf coaches on the planet, from a college scholarship point of view. Also, if I heard correctly isn't he talking about ground forces? So, there's vertical up and down, horizontal left to right, horizontal toe to heel which combines to create torque or rotation. What am I missing? Is there another way to push into the ground. Please forgive me I'm just trying to learn not trying to upset anyone
The point of the video started as a watch along but that was so boring, and I’m not a fan of how condescending Mike is with people at times, and knowing me I would have shifted focus to this. He gives a 15 minute speech to pga instructors about forces and completely misses ball position in the video which can and will dramatically affect the forces. Sorry if it was confusing (the point of the video) but it is what it is 😂.
I agree with Mike's attitude. I do think for golf instruction to improve in the modern age we do need more whistle blowing. Sometimes I think coaches are protected species where they can say whatever they like and other coaches just put their heads down. Keep up the good work
So, if I recall correctly, I got a D in geometry, had to take algebra in summer school cause I failed it, and wasn't even eligible to take physics (which most of this is) because of my poor aptitude for math and science. Somehow though, I kinda got all of that. I'd suspect an athlete is gonna find a way to apply most of these forces well if they 8:03 set up in a way thats good and appropriate for their natural motion. Masterfully done
Thanks Joe! Yes the bottom line is you can break any athletic motion down to physics and it becomes overwhelming. I fear this is the direction that golf instruction is going. It needs to go the other way, it is just an athletic motion, and we need to teach the basic fundamentals to promote these natural occurring things. If you can throw a ball, you can swing a club. We are not out here trying to break down the physics of a child throwing a plastic ball, so why do we have to get so detailed in golf. It is just a game..... lol
Not wrong about GRF, but wrong in failing to recognize ball position changes everything, you said it in your comment, they are scientists, physicists, and PHDs, not instructors. Thanks for the watch and best of luck!
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you are a great communicator and teacher. You managed to communicate some stuff I've never thought of quite well. That was cool
Thank you I appreciate that it is a tough subject! Thanks for the watch
Tony this is one of the sickest videos I’ve seen on the subject. Gonna watch it a few times.
Thanks HVR! Appreciate the watch and commen t
Great point about ball position, which is important not only back in the stance or forward in the stance, but also important if you are standing closer to the ball or further from the ball. Mike Adams believes he can measure various parameters on golfers and that will tell him what is the best way for that particular golfer to swing. I would love to see you make a video on that topic regarding Mike Adams.
Hey Steven, the measurements are nothing new in the golf swing, TPI has been doing this for 20 years. The thing I am not a fan of with Mike is he can be condescending and seems to reveal a fairly basic concept as if it was scripture, I don’t think he is doing this on purpose but I have heard him at our PGA meetings and he did the same thing. The one main thing he completely overlooked is ball position, and you can take all the measurements and make adjustments in setup you want, but if that ball position isn’t correct to your measurements, it throws off all forces. That to me is more basic knowledge than measurements, and the fact he completely disregarded it concerns me which is why I made those points. All respect to Mike, but maybe he assumed since he was talking to pga instructors they already knew, but it should have been mentioned as it’s on RUclips and it’s irresponsible (in my opinion) to not address that knowing average golfers would watch.
@@liongolfacademy I learned about the importance of ball position from many videos on your Lion Golf Academy website... and also to avoid a forward press of the hands at address.
@stevenvig927 💯 thanks Steven!
Agree 100% The golf swing is complicated enough already :) A bit of side lateral bend and lumbar spine curvature would lower handicaps faster than trying the current jump around teaching trend imho
Yes 🙌 the instruction world is trying to paint Mona Lisa’s using a toothpick.
@@liongolfacademy lol yes 👍😂
Not the biggest fan of Mike Adams but he's one of the most successful golf coaches on the planet, from a college scholarship point of view. Also, if I heard correctly isn't he talking about ground forces? So, there's vertical up and down, horizontal left to right, horizontal toe to heel which combines to create torque or rotation. What am I missing? Is there another way to push into the ground. Please forgive me I'm just trying to learn not trying to upset anyone
The point of the video started as a watch along but that was so boring, and I’m not a fan of how condescending Mike is with people at times, and knowing me I would have shifted focus to this. He gives a 15 minute speech to pga instructors about forces and completely misses ball position in the video which can and will dramatically affect the forces. Sorry if it was confusing (the point of the video) but it is what it is 😂.
I agree with Mike's attitude. I do think for golf instruction to improve in the modern age we do need more whistle blowing. Sometimes I think coaches are protected species where they can say whatever they like and other coaches just put their heads down. Keep up the good work
@martynzl appreciate it!
For me, there is only one force. But unfortunately I’m no Jedi and so my ball still doesn’t go where I want it.
Sounds like to me you need a 2 week getaway to tattooine
So, if I recall correctly, I got a D in geometry, had to take algebra in summer school cause I failed it, and wasn't even eligible to take physics (which most of this is) because of my poor aptitude for math and science. Somehow though, I kinda got all of that. I'd suspect an athlete is gonna find a way to apply most of these forces well if they 8:03 set up in a way thats good and appropriate for their natural motion. Masterfully done
Thanks Joe! Yes the bottom line is you can break any athletic motion down to physics and it becomes overwhelming. I fear this is the direction that golf instruction is going. It needs to go the other way, it is just an athletic motion, and we need to teach the basic fundamentals to promote these natural occurring things. If you can throw a ball, you can swing a club. We are not out here trying to break down the physics of a child throwing a plastic ball, so why do we have to get so detailed in golf. It is just a game..... lol
Wow, so all of the engineers, scientist, physicists, and pHDs working at Swing Catalyst, BodiTrack and Smart2Move are wrong about GRF? Unsubscribed.
Not wrong about GRF, but wrong in failing to recognize ball position changes everything, you said it in your comment, they are scientists, physicists, and PHDs, not instructors. Thanks for the watch and best of luck!
Someone didn't watch the video...
@HVR5567 maybe he watched it, or may have missed the point of it or didn’t understand the intention of the video.