quick clarification: Under international law you can't take land you "won" during war. It is considered an illegal occupation. From the Palestinian side, each "peace treaty" offer asked them to either give up more land or allow Israel to control their security/borders. They weren't "nice enough", the UN partitioned the land they kept taking more.
Thank you. what exactly is "nice" about "mowing the lawn" every few years if you know what i mean. Why dont these videos ever talk about what Palestinians experience on the ground. nothing but misery and death at the hands of the idf. And then some dude goes to the west bank finds one guy who is doing ok and then start spewing lies about "palestenians have everything they need".
@@BOT-MERC bro am with Ukraine 🇺🇦side because I know they have the right to defend themselves from invaders and the same goes to the Palestinians . (Check bb real name before he changed it I bet you wll guess where he really from
One thing that is missing from the vidoes you guys watch is that they don't explain why people in the Nakba were forced to leave. There were multiple massacres that happened in Palestinian villages in 1948 such as Deir Yassin and Tantura. Deir Yassin happened right before the establishment of Israel and Tantura happened after. Many palestinians in other villages feared the same thing would happen to them. They were basically given an utlimatum to either leave or die. Y'all should do a video on the documentary Tantura. Much respect for what you guys are doing.
Ooh fun, now let's talk about all the massacres against Jews that happened DECADES before that! Safed in the late 1800s. Nebi Musa riots of 1920-1921. Hebron and many other villages 1929. Arab Revolt 1936-39, led by Nazi-lover Mufti Amin al Husayni. But of course you want to start with battles during a war STARTED BY ARABS!!
First of all guys, great respect for the effort and the time you spend to gain more knowledge about this conflict. - First thing first, Palestine is not independent state. Israel does not recognize the Palestinian land as a state. They are not allowed to govern themselves without the approval of Israel. Yes they have there own territories but it’s literally just surrounded by settlers. Please guys watch a video about settlers in the Westbank. Your eyes will literally start tearing up. The whole international community agreed on splitting of the land (borders from 1967). The whole problem why the peace talks shut down in 2005. Because from 1993, they made a deal that no more settlements would be build in the Palestinian Westbank. But that deal was never honored, they keept building more and more. Displacing more people from their homes, that you (Israel) agreed was there land in 1993. This happens till this day. How can you say you want peace but break that agreement every day? - If you conquer land, you as victor have claim and responsibility over that land. After the WW2, nations all over the world made a agreement. How to engaging in war and how to respect the human rights of people. Genève convention is just 1 of the example, UN regulations a other. This was all around the same time Israel was created. And as a democracy it claims to be it always needs to respect the laws of warfare and humanitarian laws. That is one key element what comes with being a democracy. Way back in time you could conquer a land and expel/kill the the indigenous people, like America did yes. But in the present days with made laws, Genève convention, UN regulations. - Expelling mass people from their homes and not giving then opportunity to go back home. You call that Ethnic cleansing. That is not allowed under Genève convention. - If a political group or military group or country attacked you. It is not allowed for you to conflict punishment on the other side’s people. By taking away their water, food, power, medical supplies or indiscriminately killing of innocent civilians. That is called Collective punishment and that is also not allowed under the law. So if you claim to be a Democracy, the only one in the region. The whole western world at your side. Why are they breaking the law so much and it’s being allowed? - The last one and I will keep it short. It is about occupation and apartheid. This are important points in this conflict. I would appreciate you guys if you learn more about that. Because there is only place in the whole world where their is still to this day Apartheid. Much love for the good exchanges between each other. It’s all about education each other and see the other side.
there are so many things wrong in what you wrote 1. The majority of the arabs that left after the establishment of Israel left because they arab leaders told them to leave so they can kill all the jews and then they can return to the land and take over all of it - there are actual recording of it 2. Sound The Same Time More Than 800000 Jews Were Expelled From Arab Countries and Force To Leave ALL their properties- why dont you talk about it? 3.what occupation the arabs who live within the border of Israel have the same rights as the jews and are in the Israeli parliament and high jurisdiction court (actually like the black in USA they are given advantages in the higher education Those who are not citizens should not get the same rights - like in any other country Arabs can go everywhere in israel if they have permit (like Viza) and dont carry wepons - Jews cant they will be killed so who have more rights To use the word apartheid is to diminish what the black population went through in south africa - they have the same rights and there is no segregation (Its so clear you never been to Israel and just watch videos in the internet that of course said the objective truth)
First of all dumb rule if you conquer you should be able to keep it definition of big f*cks small it’s natural next you will be telling lions to stop hunting smaller animals bc it’s ’not fair’ all the odds were against Israel and they still came out on top so if your going to refuse a generous offer of your land back just because Jews have been settling there than that’s stupid as people from like 4+ religions have been able to live together reasonably peacefully in the uk and USA it just seems like certain religions (including Christianity) have an eye for war and power whereas throughout history Judaism has been relatively peaceful compared to Islam and Christianity yet they are the ones persecuted mostly for being successful, so not saying you are wrong in what you are saying but just from a sensible third person view (I’m agnostic) I can see one group of people consistently persecuted by 2 religions for their success or general existence
Hey Cartier family, I'm happy you're trying to understand the situation. I'm a Palestinian Christian living in Bethlehem. You're welcome to stay at my home whenever you want to visit religious and historical places, experience our culture, try Palestinian food, and see the reality here. I'm ready to help you understand the truth about what's happening. It's important to consider more about the history; the video before that only showed the Israelites, but before them, there were the Canaanites and Philistines. This is mentioned in the Bible's Old Testament in the Book of Exodus. When we talk about Palestinians, it includes Muslims, Christians, and Jews. However, it's crucial to note that the current Jews don't have a direct connection to the Israelites. They follow Judaism, and there's no evidence linking them to the ancient Israelites. I encourage you to meet people from both sides, listen to their perspectives, and understand the reality portrayed in these videos. Thank you for your time family ❤
No, when you say Palestinians, you don't mean Jews. Not since 1948. Jews are not allowed in Palestine. Jews are from Judea, and really, it's not important because Israelis are not going anywhere.
The main point is, if you have to go back 3,000 years to justify taking someone's house, despite Palestinians living here for the last thousand years, that's a problem. There were many Jews living in Palestine before Zionism, but the issue arose when Ashkenazi Jews fleeing genocidal Europe leading to the Holocaust understandably came. If they had come with non-colonial ambitions to take over the country and establish an ethnic state, this probably wouldn't be happening.
Literally, Muslims jews and Christians could stay living there without the zionizim or an occupation that named Israel, but in the end Britain and US supported that shi.t
Yes if that's the case how was the Jewish people living to being treated because they were not being treated good then everyone know that when you are in a Muslim Arab country that the only thing that matters is Allah and Muhammad and them serving their God and that if you were of any other ethnicity or religion you would not be able to do much of anything in that country or be successful they were not living good
@@walker24fam just stfu it was Europe who treated jews awfuly not Muslims and instead of blaming Europe they cane to kill Palestinians,why? because it wasn't about religion it was zionisim
@@brian782 nah they were the ones who used illegal talking points every argument they brought was illegal under international law taking land by conquest going into w bank with settlers ect
Yeah, Solomon is not the brightest of the bunch, although having the brightest and most beautiful eyes. But he seems to have some learning or comprehension difficulties.
If you have empathy for Palestine then you will have empathy for White colonists in America who stole land or White colonists in Africa, Palestine literally means Arab-Colonized Israel, Jews were always there and the Arabs colonized it, it is Israeli land.
You guys should see what occupation looks like by watching some documentaries. See testament from soldiers who have left the Israeli army how they brutally incubate occupation. Also you missed the point of the settlers they are encouraged by the government to move there as a land grab, which is in violation of international law and then the army defends them. Two kids killed today by Israeli snipers in the occupied territory the youngest was 9 years old
The Ottoman empire was savage compared to any country today. The dome of the rock was built on the Temple Mount, the only true holy site of the Jewish people. You only cry about one side today. Should muslims give the Temple back to the Jews, who owned it for 2500+ years before islam was a thought?
Hamas literally has children shows indoctrinating kids to kill anyone who is Jewish...they are spending all money on arms and bunkers instead of helping gaza people
Exactly! It seems like they tend to forget that almost all the new sources that they get over here including these short Snippets of videos they watch is going to be more pro-israeli. I mean our news over here in America is probably 90% pro-israeli.
14:15 What do you mean "they faught for that land" ? If i come to you house fight you and kick you out, does that mean i have a right to live in your house ?
Hello Guys , Im Egyptian and my partner is Palestinian from the West bank and we would love to connect with you and explain for you more about this topic. Let us know if you are interested to know the story from our side. Cheers
You mean give your biased view ( Egyptian/ Palestinian only view) into their ear😉🤣. Let the Guys do their own deep research or speak up in the forum instead of whispering in their ear😉. I would recommend: 1. listen to Thomas Sowell, about the history of Jews/ Isreal. He is knowledgeable/ educated and fair. High IQ/ Harvard educated. 2. Or please bring on Mosab Yosef ( A Palestinian, who is the SON of HAMAS founder and wrote the book ‘ SON of HAMAS’, he will give you a TRUE PICTURE of who Hamas is. Hamas charter is to annihilate Israel and all JEWS. Hamas got BILLIONS of DOLLARS in foreign aid but chose to SHAMELESSLY build “downwards” ( tunnels/ ammunition) instead of “Upwards” ie. Educational infrastructure/ jobs or businesses. Hamas is run/ funded by Hezbollah/ ISIS / Islamic terrorist, whose leaders live in posh hotels in Qatar while they incite Palestinian youth with Jew hatred! (Jews / Torah does not hate other religions; but Islam/ Quran is full of hating Jews/ Christian/ infidels. Let’s be clear this is a religious war between Muslims against Jews as is written by their prophet who is a warlord/ who has waged many battles against the Jews (stole caravans/ killed Jewish husbands and took Jewish woman; took “s” slaves, etc.). Research, the last 1000 years, not just last 100 years, “Palestinians” are also settlers ( Bedouin’s/ tribes/ clans), JEWS have always been in Judea/ Israel….but the Jews have been dispersed (into various countries all over the world, then kicked out of Arab/ Muslim countries like Yemen,etc; & European countries ie. Holocaust). 3. Bring research talks by Brigitte Gabriel ( a Lebanese woman who wrote “ Because they hate” after she went through terrorist attack by the Palestinians!!! She is a terrorist analyst who knows Arab/ Palestinians/ Islamists very well. Finally talk to Vivek Ramaswamy, who is smart and has a good handle on the situation, and since he IS NOT jewish/ Christian/ Muslim, he will give you guys the best unbiased history of Isreal/ Palestinian!!! I know you respect him and Thomas Sowell. Remember Gaza could have been a SINGAPORE ( or like Japan rebuild after world war bomb), with the BILLIONS of dollars poured IN for businesses ( even American Jewish business men send the millions to start flower/ fruits business, which Hamas BURNT and instead took the irrigation pipes to make ammunition!!). Hamas are radical Muslims….and they need to be destroyed in order to FREE PALESTINIANS!!! Free Palestinians from Hamas and there will be peace! Jews exist peacefully as they DO NOT force their religion on other like Islamists do. Guys stand for Jews as they have been already oppressed/ genocide committed by Hitler and Ottoman EMPIRE, Isreal is the main democratic and Secular country in the Middle East region ( by the way, there are black Jews and Arab Jew, not just European Jews) and the radical Islam DO NOT a want them to exist ( hence the EVIL SLOGAN from River to the sea, Palestinian must be free😳😳, basically crying for the genocide of the JEWS again!)
God is angry with the jews because killers of prophets always creates problems and wars God said they will never be in peace spread them every where if the Lord hate them what do you think about people.
@@soniathomas3700 He has the right more than anyone to talk about this they are the indigenous people of the Arab land you don't know better you white European
in the history the land of israel is just a region not the whole land there r a people who speak aramaic in that time even jesus speak aramaic not hebrew so jesus is palestinian . palestinians always there not coming from arab countries they speak arabic because of the arabs coming when islam spread in the region .
I have to give it to them for really trying to understand but I hope Solomon holds his ground because he is the only one that is seeing what is actually happening out there. "The oppressor is always louder with thier narrative in comparison to the one that is being oppressed."
26:09 appreciate you guys trying to understand the road to peace with Olso Accords and figuring out why they're protesting from both sides. However, this is just a "brief" history. The other side of the coin that isn't displayed is how the Palestinians were treated by the Israelis during the course of that time. Houses are taken over by each day, and goes under the radar. And what the media covered are all only the violent protest and uprising, as if they don't want the peace. But peace isn't defined by how other governments shaped them. Peace for Palestinians are the liberation from all the years of occupation
And what about the pogrom and attacks Arabs did against jews even in the 19th century in that area and having doing non stop ever since including one today? (also way before but let's start with that). When you fight for your life and you know the other side is constantly trying to eradicate you, you won't be so nice, trust me. And for years and years the Israelis have been too nice. Also, Israel won that area fairly after they won a war they didn't even start (guess who did...) and the fact that they still give Palestinians land just shows how much they are willing to do in the name of peace while the other side uses those opportunities to plan attacks on Israel. So when you talk of occupation, remember those Palestinians never ruled Israel or however you want to call it, they were here way more than a thousand years later than the jews, never referred to them as Palestinians until the 1960's, only Arabs or whatever countries they came from and actually were the ones to stay on an occupied land. Also, more than 20% of the people living in Israel aren't even Jewish and have the same rights like everyone else.
@@Topaz7979 If someone were to enter your house and claim it as its own, do you not has the right to defend your house? If a large number of people were to enter your country, and suddenly they claimed that your house is theirs, do you not fight back for your own right? I am not diminishing the fate of the Jews after the Holocaust. But 6 million of those unfortunate massacres are not in the hands of the Arab Palestinians. But that doesn't give them right under the Zionism movement, to claim a piece of land and ethnically cleansing the population there.
Oh yes. Occupation. So horrible. You know, giving people full rights, allowing them to work and study with you in your universities. The number of the occupied people triples. Sounds horrifying.
There is no such place as palestine. Palestine was the name given to the land as an insult by the Romans to the jews. It would be like if I moved into Africa for about 15 minutes of history and decided to call it KKK land. You're telling me it's now a legitimate State just because I pretend it is?
@@Tonishog What is there to discuss? Everyone thinks it's bad - who is going to stop them? The US? Uk? Anyone else in Europe? All of the people who are currently bankrolling their occupation?
I love the way you guys are learning together…. I know you guys get heated with each other, but please 🙏 don’t allow disagreements split you guys up…. Y’all missing the 5th dude y’all had, hope y’all could bring him back…. It’s great to see y’all debating and joking and learning….amazing…..
Tou guys are learning but these videos just hits the high spots.Each high spot needs a deep dive to have a better understanding.Good luck,Im gonna watch.
I totally agree with you! I think they will be fine because they are family in spirit! The fifth guy is called Ross, I would love to see him join in now and again! ❤
Soloman is under the impression that IDF was indiscriminately killing Palestinian civilians which there is no proof of that ever being the case. The IDF has killed and arrested people that were breaking laws and committing terrorist acts. Trying to compare the Israeli army and its actions to the PLO, Hezbollah, and Hamas is completely disingenuous.
@@mattsmith7490 1) Israel created Hamas, so if you wanna blame Hamas then blame Israel who created it as a way to counter attack the PLO who asked for peace but Netanyahu and his extremists came together and created Hamas in order to prevent it. 2) the Israeli Jews are not native to the land, that’s why they don’t do dna testing because it will reveal their true native lands, they are from Eastern Europe, not from Palestine. The Palestinians are the direct children of Canaan which was stolen by Jews in the first place, the only justification it gives them is that their fake god gave them the so called promise land. 3) there’s tons of proof of Israelis oppressing Palestinians, why did idf soldiers barge into the Al aqsa mosque which is a holy mosque for Muslims and target Palestinians? There’s no Hamas or any group there.
22:19 The problem Israel’s having with pulling out of the West Bank (because I used to think the same, that maybe they’d want peace if Israel left those areas) is that they tried it in 2005 which is what lead to Hamas. They used to have a similar situation in Gaza, but in an attempt to create peace they forced all Israelis to leave Gaza and pulled out completely. (There are documentary’s on Israel pulling out of Gaza here on RUclips that explain how that went in more detail.) Unfortunately instead of Gaza building its own infrastructure and becoming independent, they built tunnels and an army with the goal of wiping Israel off the map. The plan was never for Israel to keep supplying Gaza with all their electricity and water for free while they kept trying to destroy Israel, it was for them to become a completely independent state. So now they’re aware of what happens when they do that, and most Israelis aren’t willing to try it again.
Alexander conquered parts of India now Pakistan 2000+ years ago. Does that mean Greeks can take over Pakistan now?? Also hypothetically speaking if some people mistreated Greek's for centuries and now those same people give that land to them just to get rid of their guilt rather than fixing their own shitty attitude, does it make it justified??
Alexander conquered is key word, Jews originate from Judah and have a connection with the land. We are a de- colonization story. But any way yes you win wars you lose wars that's how the world works.
@@romt-qr2ik So by your logic you guys lost the right to that land when the Romans took it from you? Also doesn't Judaism prohibited going back to the holy land until the arrival of the messiah which is pretty different from Zionism a controversial view even in Jewish circles? And finally if you're going to justify it with religion then what makes the claims of the other religions to that land inferior to yours?
@@whohow8429 braaavo you shut them off, cuz they are stupid so they can't start and continue a normal conversation with anyone cuz they don't even know what they're talking about or what their holy book is saying to them; big mess.
@@romt-qr2ik half of yall are about as "native" to european countries you imigrated from as you are to judah while palestinians are native to palestine and have no major connection to other lands so yall aren't de-colonizing shit.
of course… they were told to leave their houses by the arab nations because their plans was to wipeout all the jews, but they didnt. so when they waited for them to return, they didnt! as to why they strategically put them in gaza and the west bank! to use them as ponds to fight against israel. the people of israel palestine today are originally from turkey and egypt
yes 16:18 the romans kicked out a lot of jews and around 30,000 just went missing without a trace (1 of 12 tribes) which is believed to have migrated to europe. after the were getting kicked out they named that land palestine
Guy with the red shorts is the only one talking sense. Imagine saying a coloniser is “showing you love” after stealing your bakery and giving you slice of bread
I know the 3,000 year old claim to the land is hilarious. They basically have no connection to the land and it shows through their food and how they treat the olive trees.
@@VintageBabyOx Literally, like why would you burn the official home grown cultural olive trees. It makes absolutely no sense. Goes to show these people have absolutely no connection.
How is that hilarious? The land is full with Jewish old sites. Archeological findings continually point out Jewish heritage. Jews have been praying for 2000 years to go back to their homeland. No one has better connection to this land than Jews.@@VintageBabyOx
I love that y'all are trying to figure it out. Sometimes you get wrong info but you still try to see from all sides. This. Discernment is the key to survival throughout history
Netanyahu was created and funded by Hamas as a way to counter attack the PLO which is a secular group as a way to prevent a two state solution. Israel is the real terrorist.
25:00 and who funded Hamas and have them guns, they didn't have to destroy Yasser Arafat leader and government. US & Israel 🤷🏾♀️ The shadiness behind all of this is what's missing from the equation.
Netanyahu was created and funded by Hamas as a way to counter attack the PLO which is a secular group as a way to prevent a two state solution. Israel is the real terrorist.
the guy was saying "isreal showed love to palestininas" is so funny to me beacuse israel is basically keeping gaza as an open air prision and bombed them on 2008, 2010, 1014, 2018, 2020, 2021,2022,2023 so is this what you call love? what type of love is this? what type of love is making palestinians in the west bank(where its supposed to be owned by palestinian government) go through hundreds of checkpoint every day what type of love is this when they have taken over 12000 palestinian CHILDREN hostages since 2000. thats not love. thats terror
53:00 Solomon keep it up man. You're evenually seeing the bigger picture here. Throughout history, any group of people when oppressed tends to always rebel/fight back by any means possible. OPPRESSION SHOULD NEVER BE JUSTIFIED IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! it's crazy that it has to be said!
This is the absolute real story> The Canaanite Arabs inhabited the land of Palestine since prehistoric times (i.e. the era before reading and writing). They settled and began reclaiming the land, farming, and building houses, which was not common in that period. Traces and agricultural tools were found dating back to a period in which the Jews did not exist at all, and this indicates that there were A population that preceded everyone else in life on this earth. The development of life in Palestine reached the stage of “statelets” at the beginning of the Bronze Age (3200 BC - 2000 BC), which was the presence of a population bloc, houses, farms, and stability. Then the Canaanites developed after that to the stage of urbanization, where the Palestinians founded the first city in the history of humanity, which is... The city of Jericho was called the "Greco civilization", as mentioned and proven by archaeological excavations. Commercial and industrial life flourished, bronze and metals were poured, religious beliefs and artistic decorations appeared on tools, and the "city" stage was the highest level of development that humans had reached in that period. The Palestinian presence continued to expand, spread, and build other centers and gatherings on the Palestinian coast. Throughout those ages, Palestine was the focus of the occupiers’ ambitions. It was subjected to occupation from time to time, and sometimes the occupation extended for centuries, but in the shadow of a continuous Palestinian presence.
Palestine was inhabited by the Romans and Persians, and Alexander the Great reached the borders of Gaza and was occupied by the Crusaders and others. Do we say that Palestine is Roman, for example? Or does it belong to Persia? Certainly not, because the indigenous people still exist, and all of these races were transient. They cannot be attributed to the land, nor can the land be attributed to them at all. Battle of Jericho: The Jewish narratives talk about a battle in which Joshua bin Nun led the Jews and stormed Jericho, which was inhabited by the Canaanites at that time, so they destroyed and burned it. Although the narrative itself confirms the existence of inhabitants who preceded them on earth and speaks of a king running the Kingdom of Canaan, the research of the British Catherine Kennon stated that There is no trace of burning that occurred in Jericho during the period mentioned in the Torah. Two thousand years later: In 1839, “Moses Montefiore” visited one of the wealthy Jews, Muhammad Ali, and negotiated with him to allow the construction of villages and homes for the Jews. This agreement was not concluded, but with the support of Montefiore, the state, during the era of Muhammad Ali, made a census showing the number of Jews in Palestine, and found that the percentage of Jews did not exceed 2%, as Palestine remained. Empty of Jews since their defeat by the Romans. Those who lived in Palestine at the time of the census were the Jews of Andalusia who fled with the Muslims in 1494 when the Islamic State fell. The Jews are trying to prove the existence of the alleged Temple of Solomon in the place of Al-Aqsa Mosque, and they have found proof - fabrications - through Biblical archeology, but real archeology has denied the existence of any antiquities dating back to the Children of Israel until our days, despite the massive excavations carried out by the occupation in Jerusalem, below Al-Aqsa Mosque, and in several Sites in Palestine. It is clear from the above that: * The Palestinian presence has never ceased on the land of Palestine since their first presence, even during any period of occupation. * The Israeli presence was limited to a certain period and to a few specific places. They always left the land and ended their existence completely, then returned with the hope of establishing a state for themselves on the land of Palestine. * The first presence of Jews on the land of Palestine was after 1460 BC, according to the Torah itself. * The first residence and rule of the Jews was during the era of the judges and was short-lived in small gatherings. * The proportion of Jews was very small compared to the indigenous population, the “Canaanites.” * The children of Israel never built a civilization and did not reach the level prevailing in that land in their human development. This is clear in archaeological research and studies that found tools belonging to the Palestinians since the Bronze Age, but they did not find anything belonging to the Jews. * The indigenous population was increasing and spreading in light of the decrease of the Children of Israel as a result of wars and continuous migration. * The historical evidence that the Israelis rely on is weak and contains contradictions capable of undermining their complete right. ruclips.net/video/IEmMdBfD3OQ/видео.htmlsi=IfEbXW12YOxH0k6P
The guy multiple times repeating: “they (Israeli)’ve fought for that,they won that land, they were nice even to offering some land”🤦🏻♀️ I mean REALLY? So by his logic , anyone can invade his house, kick his ass, then say: yo man, I’ve won this house, you better stay in the corner 👍👍👍 GREAT LOGIC
I don't know where you are from, but I guarantee you over a dozen groups have come and gone before you on that very land. So stop virtue signaling. Also, your analogy is not correct. It's like saying YOU attacked your neighbor saying I'm not good with my house, I need your house too. Then they retaliate and kick your ass and take your living room as compensation. Yes it's fucked up but who started this whole situation? You both had your own houses.
@@hindude4572 Jews have been expelled from Europe for centuries, from one place to another, nobody wanted them when they homeless came to the land which already was occupied by Palestinians. The famous : “The Germans destroyed our families and homes, don’t destroy our hopes”. Then, after few years, they’ve kicked out the local people who sheltered them from their own homes. You can watch Israeli docu-movie called Tantura, where Israeli veterans with joy in their faces describing all the massacres they have done to Palestinians in 1948 to get them out. With all my respect to you, if you start laying claim to the house of the people who’ve sheltered you for years, claiming that you were chosen by God and God had promised you their land, you need to be prepared for resistance. Hope you know that 👍
All the times they have tried to attack Israel they lost… Israel could have easily ended them after the Six Day War in 1967 but they stayed their hand…
Imagine if your neighbor came to your house and took over one of your rooms. What would be your natural response? You would resist and fight back. Despite your efforts, you couldn't reclaim the room because your neighbor was stronger than you. Then your neighbor proposes a deal: they will occupy those rooms but allow you to have the rest of the house, with the condition that you accept their rule. You cannot leave your home without permission. You are restricted from taking any action without their approval. Your only role is to live in the house while they dictate the rules for you to follow. Do you agree with this? Can anyone answer me?
And why they took the room from first place? Because the arabs started a war, to take israeli rooms for themselves, but they lost.. and if someone once try to kill you you’ll keep in a eye on him right? Bty there is 2 milions arab live in israel, with citizenship and equal right as the Jaw have. Those videos don’t mention that at all.
The guy in the back, to my left. He was silent in most of the initial videos on this topic. I initially thought he didn't care much. Now I think he was simply waiting to learn more about it before forming an opinion. Now that he voiced his current opinion, I totally disagree with him. Yet I still appreciate the time he devoted to educate himself. I just hope they keep this going. I'm confident they'll find the truth. They have good hearts
Absolutely. No mention of the Jews forced out of Arabs lands, who got a new home in Israel. Not a word about the people who moved in to work on the farms, now identifying as Palestinians. Not only Jews immigrated, muslims did, too.
Wrong statement, you seem to be watching another video This is a land called Palestine even by the Romans, and a Muslim Christian Jew lived in it under the name Palestine There is no such thing as a Jewish state, even a Jew whose original nationality is Palestinian
U do realise Islam is the newest religion and happened hundreds of years after Christianity and when romans had israle, it was Christians who moved there
Who gave you the land? When was is rightly yours - sovereign state and rule? You were never Palestinians under Othman rule, you were all Arabs. No one took you land, read books that were not written by Arabs.
Really? And all the other Arab Nations exiling them when they were in the end of world war II. That's another thing that was justified or you guys are just trying to justify to exile them all over the place. This is why the nation of Israel exists to protect Jewish people from people like you who don't want them anywhere
My issue with these is they always focus on the Jewish diaspora in Europe. Most of Israel’s Jewish population are from Morocco to Afghanistan. Jews expelled from Muslims countries after they lost a war they started. My parents are from Syria. We been in Syria since it was part of Solomon’s empire. We been there before Christianity and islam. Now we don’t exist.
Under the terms of the treaty, which had resulted from the Camp David Accords signed in 1978, Israel returned the entire Sinai Peninsula to Egypt, and, in return, Egypt recognized Israel's right to exist. The two countries subsequently established normal diplomatic relations
@@nadahassan8434 Who won the war between Israel and Egypt? the Israelis Without cover from the air, the Egyptian army was left vulnerable to attack. Within three days the Israelis had achieved an overwhelming victory on the ground, capturing the Gaza Strip and all of the Sinai Peninsula up to the east bank of the Suez Canal
Really glad you guys took the time to learn about this and debate it and understand it. And see you do your best to provide fair n balanced discussion n well sourced research n information on this complex issue. Salute✊️🇵🇸🧡
Without a doubt. It's entirely foreign to them n the fact that it involves religion, exposes religious or ethnic and racial fault lines that intersect complicates matters. But at the end of the day...there is NO WAY you can justify the killing of est 21, 000 DEAD CIVILIANS/NON-COMBATTANTS 70% of which are KIDS, CUTTING THEM OFF FEOM WATER, FOOD, FUEL N MED SUPPLY... carpet-bombing a CITY 25 miles long/7 miles wide that is the most DENSELY populated in the world....leveling every CIVIL infrastructure built incl places of worship, HOSPITALS n even protected UN facilities...targeting journalists n medical personnel...emotionally terrorizing 2.3 million people by forcing them to FLEE south even as you bomb it , too....collectively punishing 2.3 million for the actions of a handful...IT'S WRONG. It's ILLEGAL ....stealing people's HOMES N MONEY N PROPERTY...is ILLEGAL and u don't need a PhD to figure that out. #CeasefireNOW #PalestinianGenocide #FreePalestine ✊️🇰🇼🧡 #StopArmingIsrael #BDSMovement
Another great heated podcast. Keep learning. Keep thriving for knowledge. Those that chastise you, ignore. You are trying to be objective and comprehend and that is appreciated!
Solomon gets it. Every one else seems to not be able to listen to another point of view. The other 3 guys looked really childish and unable to have a conversation.
Check out how these activist felt about Gaza and Israel.Nelson Mandela, Malcom x, Martin Luther king, Angela Davis, Barrack Obama. And even Muhammad Ali. They felt united with Palestine not Israel.
I can't understands how anyone can support Israel. Is it some sort of zionist cult in America? Brainwashing by the Media? They are literally supporting the occupiers. But then again, many people still love Nazi-Germany
You can't fully know the truth if you only learn about one side, it's crazy a woman of color siding with a terrorist group when truly jews & blacks have faced the same treatment but jews have for alot longer. If you don't know your Torah, Bible, or Koran, then you truly don't know what your talking about. Through history Israel only attacks when a terrorist group attacks them. Jews are fine with Palestinians. It's hamas & any other terrorist group they would kill you.
@@mbii7667 yes, even though he gave Israel money he did speeches about freedom for Palestine. He didn’t have a good relationship with BiBi. I heard they bumped heads a lot. Israel is our ally , we have agreements with them, and he was obligated. He recently did an interview that was basically saying enough wasn’t done from Gaza and they failed them. He is complicit so activists is me being generous lol. I have a couple of his speeches.
They should also learn from Bayard Rustin - who was a close adviser to MLK. He was a huge proponent of the expansion of freedom and self-emancipation. John D’ Emilio’s 2004 biography called him a “Lost Prophet.“
This is an amazing reaction and I am happy you're looking into this conflict with the goal of understanding. Please don't get mad at Solomon, he's a nice person as sees himself in the shoes of the people of West Bank and Gaza, while the rest of you see things from a political and logical standpoint. Both ways of thinking are valid and its good to have a productive discussion with people with different ways of seeing tings.
The guy in the blue shorts always sees the bigger picture in situations clearly and explains his opinions with actual facts. He doesn’t just go along with the popular opinion, a true mark of intelligence.
You are crazy. Three bullies are shouting down the redpants guy, with extremely inaccurate points. And you are talking about the bigger picture. You are the definition of indoctrinated
The Palestinians should be given the whole west bank to govern and self-determination. Zionists are commiting genocide in the area then say they want peace!! And when it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "We are only peacemakers." Quran 2:11
Palestinians were always there they've just changed their religion to Christianity & Islam. Also most Palestinians and politicians including Hamas have accepted a recognised state according to the 1967 borders but Israel refuses. I think the settlements on their land need to go, an end to the military occupation and right of return for the diaspora as well as reparations. Another thing to mention is Yitzhak Rabin's widow blamed Netanyahu for his assassination.
Beside the insane fair analysis by those dudes , In the picture a poor kid runing in front of an armed army , the dude wearing the gray t-shirt He said he threw a grenade 😂 42:30 The other dude kept saying , The lunched a war at them and won the land , and they are being nice to them 😂 Logic left the conversation in that video Much respect to the guy with the red short , he seem that he have some humanity in him
The way I see it imagine welcoming a homeless person into your home and then within a few months you are all of a sudden confined to your laundry room and not allowed to leave and the homeless person starts inviting other people into your home that they took over that you're not allowed to have any part of when do you stop fighting to get your home back
It's more like imagine inviting people back into the home that was stolen from them that your ancestors stole from the people that stole the home from the original owners(Israel).
No because the Jewish people were attacked many times when they were originally settling there from nations such as rome and exiled hundreds of years ago
@@kevinouellette5316because majority of the land was given to the Jews meanwhile the Muslims had more people and had a good teens to reject the peace treaties
@@kevinouellette5316Why should they agree?!! It is the land of Palestine. As for Muslims, Christians and Jews to live in peace in the land of Palestine, and those who do not like it should return to Europe from where they came.
Love this video of you guys figuring out what’s going on in a group where you all clearly don’t have the same beliefs. This is amazing. It’s hard to get a whole picture but talking and critical thinking is super important. Thanks yall
It is also worth noting that they understand that they understand that the extremists on both sides make peace farther away. They should also know that the current prime minister (Netanyahu) called for the assassination of the prime minister (Rabin) who wanted to make peace. Rabin was assasinated and Netanyahu became prime minister. Rabins wife blamed Netanyahu for stoking the flames that led to her husbands death.
Commenting from UK, I must say I only agree with Solomon's thought process. Solomon keep thinking the way you think - you are like a lion amongst sheep. God bless you.
please have dr norman finklstin in interview and ask him anything he is Jewish and probably the most knowledgeable person about it you literally can ask him anything
I think you young men are amazing, I don't see any other channel try to understand anyone else's point of view, let alone to the attention of others beliefs, culture or feelings. You all are even mindful of how your words could affect another. Not wanting to be miss understood. I am not dismissing fathers rolls, their importance or influence. I might even be wrong about this assumption, if I am know this is directed to you as well. For that I have to say, good job mothers. I don't have to tell you, but these are some very exceptional young men and I have more hope for America seeing these four bright lights, knowing they are here gives me more hope and even stronger in faith. This channel gives me hope for America and even a bright future. These four I believe are what i always thought America was, and I have hope could be. Not sure it ever really was, or what my part was in its demise, if any. but now I have great hope it will be . Thank you gentlemen for your effort and kindness in spite of the controlling majority interest. Who is more focused on money, votes or the majority than actually seeing right and wrong. Its not that complicated and you four can see past that to respectfully find, and report the truth. Peace can only happen with effort, and compromise. Finding the similarity and not focusing on the differences. I see you all try to do that! Keep up the good work. America needs good men like you, and remember with all the compromise. To thy own self be true! All praise and Glory be to God, and many words of thanks for these young men!
Having Israelis in Palestinian areas is not the problem. The problem is when Israelis actually come and kick the Palestinians out of their houses with help of the idf in order for the said Israelis to now settle in the Palestinians house
😂😂 you dont know what ur talking about 4 arab countries were independent like 5 years ago they dont even have any good armies and israe was armed by British and usa funds , and also the nakba where 750k Palestinians were kicked out that happened before the 6 days war
It pisses me off when people Watch a 10 min recap vid (that glosses over key details) and come to a conclusion about the conflict. Especially the dude in the middle, with the gray, clearly has his mind made up about Muslims being evil. “That kid probably threw a grenade” 🤣referencing the kid in the picture running away from an IDF check point
The fella In the blue shorts....absolute MVP. My heart goes out to him, he's put this entire channel on his back. I see his growth with each reaction ..the other 3; seems like when they wake up each morning with their previous days educational memories erased. I feel bad for ragging on them, imagine waking up every morning and having retained zero of any information you tried to absorb the previous day. The 3 are the disciples and are following Mr blue shorts...he is shepherding these 3 from being lost beyond hope. Disciples, please honor and obey fella in the blue shorts. You have fallen short in being a steward of knowledge. Knowledge Is power. You were made in God's image to be amongst the powerful. God gave you Dominion over the creatures, land, and sea. Blue shorts has earned authority by using his ears to hear and his eyes to see. Therefore do not dishonor him by not washing his feet first before u soil the basin. For I tell you the good news today, he has been heaven sent to save your reactions from the Devil. The Devil is in the details. Honor your blue shorts Shepard, for he is the Cartier Savior. Dona nobos pacem.
HARD disagree. The guy in the red shorts are my MVP. The only one who is trying to put himself in the Palestinians shoes. Blue shorts likes to talk, but gets it wrong every time
@@mortimersmithsr2522HARRRRD DISAGREE w/ both of u. Blue and Red shorts have their good and bad takes on this conflict (I appreciate their efforts to be as unbiased in this genocide) None of them understand international law (You can’t just fight for land and now it’s urs), which is why they see Israel as being kind by giving back Palestinians their OWN LAND. Thing 1 and 2 in the back need to educate themselves a bit more and take everything into account. But props to this channel Ive seen a lot of growth but they need someone to come and answer questions rather than speaking nonsense.
@@brug6518 How is bluepants unbiased? We just saw him shout nonsense for one hour straight. Redpants is the only one who does not support the occupiers. I understand they are uninformed and indoctrinated, but after 10 videos on this topic the only one who are staring to figure out who the bad guys are, is Mr- Redpants. Who came to your house and sat you down to explain the situation to you?
@@mortimersmithsr2522 You disagree but then don't dispute my point. Again, my main point is that blue shorts is the only one who has a memory that works day2day. The other 3 don't retain information from the previous day. Red shorts has to pause so often because he can't even remember what happened 3 minutes ago. He's Amelia Bedelia. Seriously, if I ever hung out with him id tell him a few extraordinary facts about random things. Do that with him once or twice and then he'd trust me enough to where he'd believe anything I say. The guy is a clown. When u hear about college kids dying from hazing.....um yeah he fits the profile to be that goof. It's a particular type of person that can't remember anything but will believe the next thing you tell them. As an opportunistic sadist, I love it, makes my loins tingle
Hey guys. I’m in Arab living inside Israel, I’m happy to speak about my experience and share it with you. It will give you another perspective on the situation 🙏🏽
The analogies this episode were 10/10 😂 I always agree with Brock and Taj, Brandon’s always doing the research and deep thinking, and Solomon is always trying to see it from both perspectives with as much kindness as possible. ♥️🙌🏻 love the videos
I totally love all the guys! I do find myself agreeing more often with Taj and Brock. And most Brandon most definitely does the research and Solomon is the diplomat. They make a wonderful team! ❤️
David Ben-Gurion (the founder of the State of Israel) : What matters is not maintaining the status quo. We must create a dynamic state, oriented towards expansion.” “After the establishment of the state, which will make us a powerful force, we will abolish the partition and expand to all of Palestine.”
Yasser Arafat: "We plan to eliminate the state of Israel and establish a purely Palestinian state. We will make life unbearable for Jews by psychological warfare and population explosion. We Palestinians will take over everything, including all of Jerusalem." Golda Meir: “We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children. We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children. We will only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us”
One of the largest jewish population is also in the US. I want people to keep in mind that before zionism became a thing all three religions lived in peace in the area called Palestine. Also Palestinians are descendents of canaanites. They speak arabic but that doesn't make them arabs. Same applies to Lebanon who had a higher percentage of canaaanites descendents.
That guy's analogy about the house is too funny. Basically saying the I can show up in front of his house with 700 dudes, take his house and he should be grateful I gave him a room in the back. Good stuff
Hah😂😂😂 I was just thinking about the green passport like African Americans they was not allowed to be in some places and the police you can find so many similarly thing there but what can I say 🫠 we all need to learn about history there was a saying if I remember right that the face of the oppression change, I dont know my English is not very good from the river to the sea Palestine will be free
so how about you tell your countrymen they should give a room for every conquest they made establishing your country? Also, obviously, why should they be happy with just a room? @@TheVcasf
47:17 Bassem Youssef LITERALLY anwsered that when he was saying there is no hamas in the west bank yet ppl are being killed, detained with no charges and abused by the IOF. And FYI, there IS an APARTHEID WALL surrounding the WHOLE WEST BANK, in addition to, thousands of checkpoints distributed across the area. On another note, your efforts are trully appreciated but please try to pay more attention to the details. You won't be so confused then...
Isreal lost war to Egypt in 1973 and that’s how we took our land back they didn’t give us any lands as you guys mentioned actually you can’t take any thing from Israel without violence
Under the terms of the treaty, which had resulted from the Camp David Accords signed in 1978, Israel returned the entire Sinai Peninsula to Egypt, and, in return, Egypt recognized Israel's right to exist. The two countries subsequently established normal diplomatic relations
Get Norman Finkelatein! You still so far from the truth on this conflict. It’s time you get a scholar instead of biased western outlet. Like Vox. It doesn’t cover 90%. My recommendation is get Norman Finkelatein!
That Area A, AREA B and AREA C is west Bank, not the whole Israel. So Israel get their own land AND they will also get land in West Bank which is not fair
26:44 Imagine you have 100% of a land Then, someone come and take it from you. After that they 'compromise' 20% of the land for you. Would you call this a 'compromise' ?
Would you accept someone stealing your house and being “nice enough” to share? Nah screw that was the initial reaction of the Palestinians that’s why they said no. Decades later after they were defeated and oppressed, they were never really offered anything substantial because Israel had all the power at that point and don’t have any incentive to negotiate in good faith.
The muslims built the dome of the rock on the Temple Mount, the holiest place of the Jews hands down. Do you think muslims should give that temple back? Or is it only bad when the Jews take back land that was taken by them? Pagans weren't even a minority in Israel before islam was created. So who do you think these palistinians were?
@@debrarankin9626 God's chosen people don't kill innocent civilians including children and women. God's chosen people don't spit on other's because of their religious beliefs. God's chosen people don't shoot unarmed children in the back and mistreat the elderly. God's chosen people don't get exiled from places 109 times. You have it all wrong, love. These are uncivilzed, inhumane, vile scum.
@@kevinouellette5316why should they? The al aqsa mosque is a holy mosque, it’s not just some mosque, it’s a holy mosque for Muslims, Jews should build their holy land somewhere else because it doenst belong to them, Israelis took the land of Canaan who are modern day Palestinians and the Muslim Arabs are the real semites and the worthy people of owning Jerusalem
U guys should watch breaking the silence on you tube. Ex Israeli soldiers speak about how they were trained to break Palestinians down. Tantura is also excellent to watch.
This is Adam, the 9 year old boy killed by a sniper He was shot 8 hours ago He was a baby. There is no Ham*s, or a cease fire, in the West Bank. i wanna send u the vid guys but idk yall instagram , there is so much thigs From the center of the event i would like you guys to see , that broke heart in pieces
We need to hear from a historian or someone increbdily educated on this topic. Can you get Norman Finklestein please or Scott Ritter or Marc Lamont. ANYONE who is able to discribe the situation that doesn't have a dog in the fight
@Doug_M Robert Spencer is an Islamophobe who made his career on that premise. I mean someone who TRULY doesn't have a dog in the fight. Someone who isn't an antisemite or a Islamophobe, just to speak to the facts
The map shown at 25:14 does not show a "contiguous" Palestinian state; just a cluster of green separated areas. How can you form a Palestinian state with a map like that?
quick clarification: Under international law you can't take land you "won" during war. It is considered an illegal occupation. From the Palestinian side, each "peace treaty" offer asked them to either give up more land or allow Israel to control their security/borders. They weren't "nice enough", the UN partitioned the land they kept taking more.
So if Palestine “won” the wars. Would they want the land? Serious question
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That is stupid.
@@MK-fc2hnwhat’s funny about that comment? Care to provide anything of substance to the conversation?
Thank you. what exactly is "nice" about "mowing the lawn" every few years if you know what i mean. Why dont these videos ever talk about what Palestinians experience on the ground. nothing but misery and death at the hands of the idf. And then some dude goes to the west bank finds one guy who is doing ok and then start spewing lies about "palestenians have everything they need".
“They won the fight “ by that logic Russia 🇷🇺 have the right to keep 🇺🇦 for themselves because they winning
It's different.
The Russians attacked.
@@BOT-MERC bro am with Ukraine 🇺🇦side because I know they have the right to defend themselves from invaders and the same goes to the Palestinians . (Check bb real name before he changed it I bet you wll guess where he really from
It was originally Jewish land, so that’s incorrect.
One thing that is missing from the vidoes you guys watch is that they don't explain why people in the Nakba were forced to leave. There were multiple massacres that happened in Palestinian villages in 1948 such as Deir Yassin and Tantura. Deir Yassin happened right before the establishment of Israel and Tantura happened after. Many palestinians in other villages feared the same thing would happen to them. They were basically given an utlimatum to either leave or die. Y'all should do a video on the documentary Tantura. Much respect for what you guys are doing.
Because you are really great righteous people --- The Disturbances of August 1929 ---- Arab revolt in Palestine 1936-1939.
It was a war. What do you expect? u dont want to die, so dont attack
Simple as that
Ooh fun, now let's talk about all the massacres against Jews that happened DECADES before that! Safed in the late 1800s. Nebi Musa riots of 1920-1921. Hebron and many other villages 1929. Arab Revolt 1936-39, led by Nazi-lover Mufti Amin al Husayni. But of course you want to start with battles during a war STARTED BY ARABS!!
Thats a a lie
First of all guys, great respect for the effort and the time you spend to gain more knowledge about this conflict.
- First thing first, Palestine is not independent state. Israel does not recognize the Palestinian land as a state. They are not allowed to govern themselves without the approval of Israel. Yes they have there own territories but it’s literally just surrounded by settlers. Please guys watch a video about settlers in the Westbank. Your eyes will literally start tearing up.
The whole international community agreed on splitting of the land (borders from 1967). The whole problem why the peace talks shut down in 2005. Because from 1993, they made a deal that no more settlements would be build in the Palestinian Westbank. But that deal was never honored, they keept building more and more. Displacing more people from their homes, that you (Israel) agreed was there land in 1993. This happens till this day.
How can you say you want peace but break that agreement every day?
- If you conquer land, you as victor have claim and responsibility over that land. After the WW2, nations all over the world made a agreement. How to engaging in war and how to respect the human rights of people. Genève convention is just 1 of the example, UN regulations a other. This was all around the same time Israel was created. And as a democracy it claims to be it always needs to respect the laws of warfare and humanitarian laws. That is one key element what comes with being a democracy.
Way back in time you could conquer a land and expel/kill the the indigenous people, like America did yes. But in the present days with made laws, Genève convention, UN regulations.
- Expelling mass people from their homes and not giving then opportunity to go back home. You call that Ethnic cleansing. That is not allowed under Genève convention.
- If a political group or military group or country attacked you. It is not allowed for you to conflict punishment on the other side’s people. By taking away their water, food, power, medical supplies or indiscriminately killing of innocent civilians. That is called Collective punishment and that is also not allowed under the law.
So if you claim to be a Democracy, the only one in the region. The whole western world at your side. Why are they breaking the law so much and it’s being allowed?
- The last one and I will keep it short. It is about occupation and apartheid. This are important points in this conflict. I would appreciate you guys if you learn more about that. Because there is only place in the whole world where their is still to this day Apartheid.
Much love for the good exchanges between each other. It’s all about education each other and see the other side.
Netanyahu was created and funded by Hamas as a way to counter attack the PLO which is a secular group as a way to prevent a two state solution
there are so many things wrong in what you wrote
1. The majority of the arabs that left after the establishment of Israel left because they arab leaders told them to leave so they can kill all the jews and then they can return to the land and take over all of it - there are actual recording of it
2. Sound The Same Time More Than 800000 Jews Were Expelled From Arab Countries and Force To Leave ALL their properties- why dont you talk about it?
3.what occupation the arabs who live within the border of Israel have the same rights as the jews and are in the Israeli parliament and high jurisdiction court (actually like the black in USA they are given advantages in the higher education
Those who are not citizens should not get the same rights - like in any other country
Arabs can go everywhere in israel if they have permit (like Viza) and dont carry wepons - Jews cant they will be killed so who have more rights
To use the word apartheid is to diminish what the black population went through in south africa - they have the same rights and there is no segregation (Its so clear you never been to Israel and just watch videos in the internet that of course said the objective truth)
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First of all dumb rule if you conquer you should be able to keep it definition of big f*cks small it’s natural next you will be telling lions to stop hunting smaller animals bc it’s ’not fair’ all the odds were against Israel and they still came out on top so if your going to refuse a generous offer of your land back just because Jews have been settling there than that’s stupid as people from like 4+ religions have been able to live together reasonably peacefully in the uk and USA it just seems like certain religions (including Christianity) have an eye for war and power whereas throughout history Judaism has been relatively peaceful compared to Islam and Christianity yet they are the ones persecuted mostly for being successful, so not saying you are wrong in what you are saying but just from a sensible third person view (I’m agnostic) I can see one group of people consistently persecuted by 2 religions for their success or general existence
Hey Cartier family, I'm happy you're trying to understand the situation. I'm a Palestinian Christian living in Bethlehem. You're welcome to stay at my home whenever you want to visit religious and historical places, experience our culture, try Palestinian food, and see the reality here. I'm ready to help you understand the truth about what's happening.
It's important to consider more about the history; the video before that only showed the Israelites, but before them, there were the Canaanites and Philistines. This is mentioned in the Bible's Old Testament in the Book of Exodus.
When we talk about Palestinians, it includes Muslims, Christians, and Jews. However, it's crucial to note that the current Jews don't have a direct connection to the Israelites. They follow Judaism, and there's no evidence linking them to the ancient Israelites.
I encourage you to meet people from both sides, listen to their perspectives, and understand the reality portrayed in these videos. Thank you for your time family ❤
@fadikokaly2900, so as a Palestinian, what's ur opinion on Isreal n it's people. Do u feel safe in Isreal?
did you grow up in a western country at all?
No, when you say Palestinians, you don't mean Jews. Not since 1948. Jews are not allowed in Palestine. Jews are from Judea, and really, it's not important because Israelis are not going anywhere.
DNA says all genetic Jews genetically can trace their genes to Israel
you the right person, they should talk to you. respect
The main point is, if you have to go back 3,000 years to justify taking someone's house, despite Palestinians living here for the last thousand years, that's a problem. There were many Jews living in Palestine before Zionism, but the issue arose when Ashkenazi Jews fleeing genocidal Europe leading to the Holocaust understandably came. If they had come with non-colonial ambitions to take over the country and establish an ethnic state, this probably wouldn't be happening.
Lololol you clearly dont understand Islam
Literally, Muslims jews and Christians could stay living there without the zionizim or an occupation that named Israel, but in the end Britain and US supported that shi.t
No is not. So justify that
Yes if that's the case how was the Jewish people living to being treated because they were not being treated good then everyone know that when you are in a Muslim Arab country that the only thing that matters is Allah and Muhammad and them serving their God and that if you were of any other ethnicity or religion you would not be able to do much of anything in that country or be successful they were not living good
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just stfu it was Europe who treated jews awfuly not Muslims and instead of blaming Europe they cane to kill Palestinians,why? because it wasn't about religion it was zionisim
I just wanna say Solomon you are a king on this video nothing but love for holding your ground.
Netanyahu was created and funded by Hamas as a way to counter attack the PLO which is a secular group as a way to prevent a two state solution
Yes he is really great and puts himself in the Palestinians’ shoes
He’s the one without self knowledge or self control
@@brian782 nah they were the ones who used illegal talking points every argument they brought was illegal under international law taking land by conquest going into w bank with settlers ect
Great guy I always love his breakdowns even before that he tries to distance himself from his biases as American
Big ups Solomon. Fighting for the oppressed 💪
Yes thank you Solomon!
Lmaoooo😂😂😂😂😂 clowns
The confused kid, Solomon.
keep getting your info from tik tok😂
Yeah, Solomon is not the brightest of the bunch, although having the brightest and most beautiful eyes. But he seems to have some learning or comprehension difficulties.
Guy on our right, please don’t lose your empathy. You the best one. Your heart is in the right place. 💜
😂😂😂😂😂😂 hes just getting alot of hate dms from dumb pro palis like u hes scared asf
Exactly, he’s showing true humanity. Nobody wants to live under a brutal and stifling occupation
#Facts
@@Mariam-fe3jo It's not an occupation, its rightful Jewish land, the Palestinians are colonizing Israel
If you have empathy for Palestine then you will have empathy for White colonists in America who stole land or White colonists in Africa, Palestine literally means Arab-Colonized Israel, Jews were always there and the Arabs colonized it, it is Israeli land.
You guys should see what occupation looks like by watching some documentaries. See testament from soldiers who have left the Israeli army how they brutally incubate occupation. Also you missed the point of the settlers they are encouraged by the government to move there as a land grab, which is in violation of international law and then the army defends them. Two kids killed today by Israeli snipers in the occupied territory the youngest was 9 years old
The Ottoman empire was savage compared to any country today. The dome of the rock was built on the Temple Mount, the only true holy site of the Jewish people. You only cry about one side today. Should muslims give the Temple back to the Jews, who owned it for 2500+ years before islam was a thought?
Hamas literally has children shows indoctrinating kids to kill anyone who is Jewish...they are spending all money on arms and bunkers instead of helping gaza people
Exactly! It seems like they tend to forget that almost all the new sources that they get over here including these short Snippets of videos they watch is going to be more pro-israeli. I mean our news over here in America is probably 90% pro-israeli.
And American taxpayers foot the bill.
Yes I just watched the AJ+ - How Apartheid Destroyed My Home and thats was like a warmup for this.
The guy in the red shorts has great critical thinking skills!! He gets it
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Nah dat boi ignorant😂😂😂😂
@@jennifersmall5659 he gets it because he puts himself in their shoes unlike the others who assume and expect unrealistic things out of ignorance
YES! Thank you for noticing this. They just shout him down every time, with nonsense. Annoying af
@@mortimersmithsr2522 I found it very annoying too!
14:15 What do you mean "they faught for that land" ? If i come to you house fight you and kick you out, does that mean i have a right to live in your house ?
how did your ancestors get that house?
The Jews were there before Islam even existed gtfoh w the bs
Hello Guys , Im Egyptian and my partner is Palestinian from the West bank and we would love to connect with you and explain for you more about this topic. Let us know if you are interested to know the story from our side. Cheers
Im from israel and the world will always see the truth yall keep pushing ur propaganda but facts are facts and history is showing it habibti🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱💪✌✌
You mean give your biased view ( Egyptian/ Palestinian only view) into their ear😉🤣. Let the Guys do their own deep research or speak up in the forum instead of whispering in their ear😉. I would recommend: 1. listen to Thomas Sowell, about the history of Jews/ Isreal. He is knowledgeable/ educated and fair. High IQ/ Harvard educated. 2. Or please bring on Mosab Yosef ( A Palestinian, who is the SON of HAMAS founder and wrote the book ‘ SON of HAMAS’, he will give you a TRUE PICTURE of who Hamas is. Hamas charter is to annihilate Israel and all JEWS. Hamas got BILLIONS of DOLLARS in foreign aid but chose to SHAMELESSLY build “downwards” ( tunnels/ ammunition) instead of “Upwards” ie. Educational infrastructure/ jobs or businesses.
Hamas is run/ funded by Hezbollah/ ISIS / Islamic terrorist, whose leaders live in posh hotels in Qatar while they incite Palestinian youth with Jew hatred! (Jews / Torah does not hate other religions; but Islam/ Quran is full of hating Jews/ Christian/ infidels. Let’s be clear this is a religious war between Muslims against Jews as is written by their prophet who is a warlord/ who has waged many battles against the Jews (stole caravans/ killed Jewish husbands and took Jewish woman; took “s” slaves, etc.).
Research, the last 1000 years, not just last 100 years, “Palestinians” are also settlers ( Bedouin’s/ tribes/ clans), JEWS have always been in Judea/ Israel….but the Jews have been dispersed (into various countries all over the world, then kicked out of Arab/ Muslim countries like Yemen,etc; & European countries ie. Holocaust). 3. Bring research talks by Brigitte Gabriel ( a Lebanese woman who wrote “ Because they hate” after she went through terrorist attack by the Palestinians!!! She is a terrorist analyst who knows Arab/ Palestinians/ Islamists very well. Finally talk to Vivek Ramaswamy, who is smart and has a good handle on the situation, and since he IS NOT jewish/ Christian/ Muslim, he will give you guys the best unbiased history of Isreal/ Palestinian!!! I know you respect him and Thomas Sowell. Remember Gaza could have been a SINGAPORE ( or like Japan rebuild after world war bomb), with the BILLIONS of dollars poured IN for businesses ( even American Jewish business men send the millions to start flower/ fruits business, which Hamas BURNT and instead took the irrigation pipes to make ammunition!!). Hamas are radical Muslims….and they need to be destroyed in order to FREE PALESTINIANS!!! Free Palestinians from Hamas and there will be peace! Jews exist peacefully as they DO NOT force their religion on other like Islamists do. Guys stand for Jews as they have been already oppressed/ genocide committed by Hitler and Ottoman EMPIRE, Isreal is the main democratic and Secular country in the Middle East region ( by the way, there are black Jews and Arab Jew, not just European Jews) and the radical Islam DO NOT a want them to exist ( hence the EVIL SLOGAN from River to the sea, Palestinian must be free😳😳, basically crying for the genocide of the JEWS again!)
God is angry with the jews because killers of prophets always creates problems and wars God said they will never be in peace spread them every where if the Lord hate them what do you think about people.
Great for you
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He has the right more than anyone to talk about this they are the indigenous people of the Arab land you don't know better you white European
Solomon is asking the right questions that will lead and open the door to the true issue of this conflict 👏👏👏
That’s true but they keep fighting with him
I agree completely but the other three determined not to listen to his point of view even though he could see theirs..they refused to see his point
in the history the land of israel is just a region not the whole land there r a people who speak aramaic in that time even jesus speak aramaic not hebrew so jesus is palestinian . palestinians always there not coming from arab countries they speak arabic because of the arabs coming when islam spread in the region .
I have to give it to them for really trying to understand but I hope Solomon holds his ground because he is the only one that is seeing what is actually happening out there.
"The oppressor is always louder with thier narrative in comparison to the one that is being oppressed."
There's a spiritual dimension to all of this
I love listening to fortress of faith on the radio... He's is exceptional in the details
26:09 appreciate you guys trying to understand the road to peace with Olso Accords and figuring out why they're protesting from both sides. However, this is just a "brief" history. The other side of the coin that isn't displayed is how the Palestinians were treated by the Israelis during the course of that time. Houses are taken over by each day, and goes under the radar. And what the media covered are all only the violent protest and uprising, as if they don't want the peace. But peace isn't defined by how other governments shaped them. Peace for Palestinians are the liberation from all the years of occupation
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And what about the pogrom and attacks Arabs did against jews even in the 19th century in that area and having doing non stop ever since including one today? (also way before but let's start with that). When you fight for your life and you know the other side is constantly trying to eradicate you, you won't be so nice, trust me. And for years and years the Israelis have been too nice. Also, Israel won that area fairly after they won a war they didn't even start (guess who did...) and the fact that they still give Palestinians land just shows how much they are willing to do in the name of peace while the other side uses those opportunities to plan attacks on Israel. So when you talk of occupation, remember those Palestinians never ruled Israel or however you want to call it, they were here way more than a thousand years later than the jews, never referred to them as Palestinians until the 1960's, only Arabs or whatever countries they came from and actually were the ones to stay on an occupied land. Also, more than 20% of the people living in Israel aren't even Jewish and have the same rights like everyone else.
@@Topaz7979 If someone were to enter your house and claim it as its own, do you not has the right to defend your house? If a large number of people were to enter your country, and suddenly they claimed that your house is theirs, do you not fight back for your own right? I am not diminishing the fate of the Jews after the Holocaust. But 6 million of those unfortunate massacres are not in the hands of the Arab Palestinians. But that doesn't give them right under the Zionism movement, to claim a piece of land and ethnically cleansing the population there.
Oh yes. Occupation. So horrible. You know, giving people full rights, allowing them to work and study with you in your universities. The number of the occupied people triples. Sounds horrifying.
There is no such place as palestine. Palestine was the name given to the land as an insult by the Romans to the jews. It would be like if I moved into Africa for about 15 minutes of history and decided to call it KKK land. You're telling me it's now a legitimate State just because I pretend it is?
you dont mention that the settlers and the settling is illegal under international law
the narrator mentioned it in the video
@@revertedrf978 yes but they don’t bring it up in their conversations about the settlements
@@Tonishog What is there to discuss? Everyone thinks it's bad - who is going to stop them? The US? Uk? Anyone else in Europe? All of the people who are currently bankrolling their occupation?
@@BlurredborderlinesIsraelis don't think it's bad, Israeli govt subsidies settling in the west bank and even provide arms and security.
well not all people care what some far away american or european country has to say, you know
I love hearing you guys argue over everything. You guys bring up some good points and seem to like learning.
I love the way you guys are learning together…. I know you guys get heated with each other, but please 🙏 don’t allow disagreements split you guys up…. Y’all missing the 5th dude y’all had, hope y’all could bring him back…. It’s great to see y’all debating and joking and learning….amazing…..
Good conversation. Exchanged of ideas.
I dunno, i just saw three guys screaming when the red shorts guy wanted to say something
Tou guys are learning but these videos just hits the high spots.Each high spot needs a deep dive to have a better understanding.Good luck,Im gonna watch.
I totally agree with you! I think they will be fine because they are family in spirit! The fifth guy is called Ross, I would love to see him join in now and again! ❤
because he was only there for family guy days
“They were nice enough to give them land”… Get out of here 🤢
same feeling
Same feeling here too
Literally it’s nasty
I hate that guy u can tell he's racist and hates arabs!
Sand dweller problems, Im glad Im an American....
The fact that y’all really think that Israel tried to have peace is hilarious🤣
How can you "gift" someone something that you stole from them in the first place?? The math aint mathing and the justification aint justifying
because they never owned it
It’s really disturbing the way y’all attack Soloman, when he has made the most sense 🤦🏻♀️
Netanyahu was created and funded by Hamas as a way to counter attack the PLO which is a secular group as a way to prevent a two state solution
Soloman is under the impression that IDF was indiscriminately killing Palestinian civilians which there is no proof of that ever being the case. The IDF has killed and arrested people that were breaking laws and committing terrorist acts. Trying to compare the Israeli army and its actions to the PLO, Hezbollah, and Hamas is completely disingenuous.
what are you on about???? ITF DOES indiscriminately kill Palestinians. They just killed a nine year old, shot him dead.@@mattsmith7490
@@mattsmith7490your blinded by Israeli propaganda🤦🏽♂️ they commit terrors too wake up.
@@mattsmith7490 1) Israel created Hamas, so if you wanna blame Hamas then blame Israel who created it as a way to counter attack the PLO who asked for peace but Netanyahu and his extremists came together and created Hamas in order to prevent it.
2) the Israeli Jews are not native to the land, that’s why they don’t do dna testing because it will reveal their true native lands, they are from Eastern Europe, not from Palestine. The Palestinians are the direct children of Canaan which was stolen by Jews in the first place, the only justification it gives them is that their fake god gave them the so called promise land.
3) there’s tons of proof of Israelis oppressing Palestinians, why did idf soldiers barge into the Al aqsa mosque which is a holy mosque for Muslims and target Palestinians? There’s no Hamas or any group there.
22:19 The problem Israel’s having with pulling out of the West Bank (because I used to think the same, that maybe they’d want peace if Israel left those areas) is that they tried it in 2005 which is what lead to Hamas. They used to have a similar situation in Gaza, but in an attempt to create peace they forced all Israelis to leave Gaza and pulled out completely. (There are documentary’s on Israel pulling out of Gaza here on RUclips that explain how that went in more detail.) Unfortunately instead of Gaza building its own infrastructure and becoming independent, they built tunnels and an army with the goal of wiping Israel off the map. The plan was never for Israel to keep supplying Gaza with all their electricity and water for free while they kept trying to destroy Israel, it was for them to become a completely independent state. So now they’re aware of what happens when they do that, and most Israelis aren’t willing to try it again.
As an Israeli, these are facts right there
If you yell and shout over Solomon it doesn't make you right ! :))) Go Solomon - you get it ! :))))
Solomon gets it the most literally in every video. I salute him.
Who is Solomon? The guy in the red shorts i hope
@@mortimersmithsr2522 yes, he is the one in red shorts
Alexander conquered parts of India now Pakistan 2000+ years ago. Does that mean Greeks can take over Pakistan now?? Also hypothetically speaking if some people mistreated Greek's for centuries and now those same people give that land to them just to get rid of their guilt rather than fixing their own shitty attitude, does it make it justified??
Alexander conquered is key word, Jews originate from Judah and have a connection with the land. We are a de- colonization story. But any way yes you win wars you lose wars that's how the world works.
@@romt-qr2ik So by your logic you guys lost the right to that land when the Romans took it from you? Also doesn't Judaism prohibited going back to the holy land until the arrival of the messiah which is pretty different from Zionism a controversial view even in Jewish circles? And finally if you're going to justify it with religion then what makes the claims of the other religions to that land inferior to yours?
Netanyahu was created and funded by Hamas as a way to counter attack the PLO which is a secular group as a way to prevent a two state solution
@@whohow8429 braaavo you shut them off, cuz they are stupid so they can't start and continue a normal conversation with anyone cuz they don't even know what they're talking about or what their holy book is saying to them; big mess.
@@romt-qr2ik half of yall are about as "native" to european countries you imigrated from as you are to judah while palestinians are native to palestine and have no major connection to other lands so yall aren't de-colonizing shit.
You all are the best. One of the best RUclips channels there is. Keep keepin' it a hundred.
The phrase " THEY TRIED TO GIVE THEM PEACE" is actually SOOO FUNNYYYY
indeed
I know 😂😂
6:38 Israel pushed well past its UN boundaries and the UN issues legal notice to Israel to give the land back; they did not.
of course… they were told to leave their houses by the arab nations because their plans was to wipeout all the jews, but they didnt. so when they waited for them to return, they didnt! as to why they strategically put them in gaza and the west bank! to use them as ponds to fight against israel. the people of israel palestine today are originally from turkey and egypt
yes 16:18 the romans kicked out a lot of jews and around 30,000 just went missing without a trace (1 of 12 tribes) which is believed to have migrated to europe. after the were getting kicked out they named that land palestine
Guy with the red shorts is the only one talking sense. Imagine saying a coloniser is “showing you love” after stealing your bakery and giving you slice of bread
Should all the population go back to where they were 5000 years ago? That doesn't make sense
I know the 3,000 year old claim to the land is hilarious. They basically have no connection to the land and it shows through their food and how they treat the olive trees.
@@VintageBabyOx Literally, like why would you burn the official home grown cultural olive trees. It makes absolutely no sense. Goes to show these people have absolutely no connection.
Yes it is hilarious 😂
Everyone will end up in Africa
How is that hilarious? The land is full with Jewish old sites. Archeological findings continually point out Jewish heritage. Jews have been praying for 2000 years to go back to their homeland. No one has better connection to this land than Jews.@@VintageBabyOx
I love that y'all are trying to figure it out. Sometimes you get wrong info but you still try to see from all sides. This. Discernment is the key to survival throughout history
Netanyahu was created and funded by Hamas as a way to counter attack the PLO which is a secular group as a way to prevent a two state solution. Israel is the real terrorist.
I love how y’all look at BOTH PERSPECTIVES!!! More and more are opening their eyes
The one on right with orange short on says it loud and clear (we judge alot of things we don't know)
Thank U
25:00 and who funded Hamas and have them guns, they didn't have to destroy Yasser Arafat leader and government. US & Israel 🤷🏾♀️ The shadiness behind all of this is what's missing from the equation.
So glad to see you guys immerse yourselves in this subject. I can see how much your knowledge has grown over the past few videos. Keep it up!
Netanyahu was created and funded by Hamas as a way to counter attack the PLO which is a secular group as a way to prevent a two state solution. Israel is the real terrorist.
You are right,they become more pro israel
Please watch the documentary ‘Tantura’
The shoot and cry films. The electronic intifada podcast. Or : The Law in These Parts.
Thank you Solomon for standing against oppression and occupation
the guy was saying "isreal showed love to palestininas" is so funny to me beacuse israel is basically keeping gaza as an open air prision and bombed them on 2008, 2010, 1014, 2018, 2020, 2021,2022,2023 so is this what you call love? what type of love is this? what type of love is making palestinians in the west bank(where its supposed to be owned by palestinian government) go through hundreds of checkpoint every day what type of love is this when they have taken over 12000 palestinian CHILDREN hostages since 2000. thats not love. thats terror
he crazy for that
Netanyahu was created and funded by Hamas as a way to counter attack the PLO which is a secular group as a way to prevent a two state solution
Please get Ryan Dawson, Norman flinkenstein, Scott Ritter, Scott Horton or Dave smith on the show
Would love to see them chat with Dave Smith
Netanyahu was created and funded by Hamas as a way to counter attack the PLO which is a secular group as a way to prevent a two state solution
Norman flinkenstein
Yes, they should really listen to Scott Ritter
not a show lmao it's their private reaction channel
Love from Israel brothers
Guy in the red shorts understands!! It’s funny yall yelling at him😂
53:00 Solomon keep it up man. You're evenually seeing the bigger picture here. Throughout history, any group of people when oppressed tends to always rebel/fight back by any means possible. OPPRESSION SHOULD NEVER BE JUSTIFIED IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! it's crazy that it has to be said!
So u basiclly a hamas supporter ok..i see...
This is the absolute real story>
The Canaanite Arabs inhabited the land of Palestine since prehistoric times (i.e. the era before reading and writing). They settled and began reclaiming the land, farming, and building houses, which was not common in that period. Traces and agricultural tools were found dating back to a period in which the Jews did not exist at all, and this indicates that there were A population that preceded everyone else in life on this earth.
The development of life in Palestine reached the stage of “statelets” at the beginning of the Bronze Age (3200 BC - 2000 BC), which was the presence of a population bloc, houses, farms, and stability. Then the Canaanites developed after that to the stage of urbanization, where the Palestinians founded the first city in the history of humanity, which is... The city of Jericho was called the "Greco civilization", as mentioned and proven by archaeological excavations. Commercial
and industrial life flourished, bronze and metals were poured, religious beliefs and artistic decorations appeared on tools, and the "city" stage was the highest level of development that humans had reached in that period.
The Palestinian presence continued to expand, spread, and build other centers and gatherings on the Palestinian coast. Throughout those ages, Palestine was the focus of the occupiers’ ambitions. It was subjected to occupation from time to time, and sometimes the occupation extended for centuries, but in the shadow of a continuous Palestinian presence.
Palestine was inhabited by the Romans and Persians, and Alexander the Great reached the borders of Gaza and was occupied by the Crusaders and others. Do we say that Palestine is Roman, for example? Or does it belong to Persia? Certainly not, because the indigenous people still exist, and all of these races were transient. They cannot be attributed to the land, nor can the land be attributed to them at all.
Battle of Jericho:
The Jewish narratives talk about a battle in which Joshua bin Nun led the Jews and stormed Jericho, which was inhabited by the Canaanites at that time, so they destroyed and burned it. Although the narrative itself confirms the existence of inhabitants who preceded them on earth and speaks of a king running the Kingdom of Canaan, the research of the British Catherine Kennon stated that There is no trace of burning that occurred in Jericho during the period mentioned in the Torah.
Two thousand years later:
In 1839, “Moses Montefiore” visited one of the wealthy Jews, Muhammad Ali, and negotiated with him to allow the construction of villages and homes for the Jews. This agreement was not concluded, but with the support of Montefiore, the state, during the era of Muhammad Ali, made a census showing the number of Jews in Palestine, and found that the percentage of Jews did not exceed 2%, as Palestine remained. Empty of Jews since their defeat by the Romans. Those who lived in Palestine at the time of the census were the Jews of Andalusia who fled with the Muslims in 1494 when the Islamic State fell.
The Jews are trying to prove the existence of the alleged Temple of Solomon in the place of Al-Aqsa Mosque, and they have found proof - fabrications - through Biblical archeology, but real archeology has denied the existence of any antiquities dating back to the Children of Israel until our days, despite the massive excavations carried out by the occupation in Jerusalem, below Al-Aqsa Mosque, and in several Sites in Palestine.
It is clear from the above that:
* The Palestinian presence has never ceased on the land of Palestine since their first presence, even during any period of occupation.
* The Israeli presence was limited to a certain period and to a few specific places. They always left the land and ended their existence completely, then returned with the hope of establishing a state for themselves on the land of Palestine.
* The first presence of Jews on the land of Palestine was after 1460 BC, according to the Torah itself.
* The first residence and rule of the Jews was during the era of the judges and was short-lived in small gatherings.
* The proportion of Jews was very small compared to the indigenous population, the “Canaanites.”
* The children of Israel never built a civilization and did not reach the level prevailing in that land in their human development. This is clear in archaeological research and studies that found tools belonging to the Palestinians since the Bronze Age, but they did not find anything belonging to the Jews.
* The indigenous population was increasing and spreading in light of the decrease of the Children of Israel as a result of wars and continuous migration.
* The historical evidence that the Israelis rely on is weak and contains contradictions capable of undermining their complete right.
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The guy multiple times repeating: “they (Israeli)’ve fought for that,they won that land, they were nice even to offering some land”🤦🏻♀️ I mean REALLY? So by his logic , anyone can invade his house, kick his ass, then say: yo man, I’ve won this house, you better stay in the corner 👍👍👍 GREAT LOGIC
“But they won that leand”😂
Forreal. Dude went on with that christopher columbus type of bullshit and acting like there weren't native people there in the first place.
I don't know where you are from, but I guarantee you over a dozen groups have come and gone before you on that very land. So stop virtue signaling. Also, your analogy is not correct. It's like saying YOU attacked your neighbor saying I'm not good with my house, I need your house too. Then they retaliate and kick your ass and take your living room as compensation. Yes it's fucked up but who started this whole situation? You both had your own houses.
@@hindude4572 Jews have been expelled from Europe for centuries, from one place to another, nobody wanted them when they homeless came to the land which already was occupied by Palestinians. The famous : “The Germans destroyed our families and homes, don’t destroy our hopes”. Then, after few years, they’ve kicked out the local people who sheltered them from their own homes. You can watch Israeli docu-movie called Tantura, where Israeli veterans with joy in their faces describing all the massacres they have done to Palestinians in 1948 to get them out. With all my respect to you, if you start laying claim to the house of the people who’ve sheltered you for years, claiming that you were chosen by God and God had promised you their land, you need to be prepared for resistance. Hope you know that 👍
All the times they have tried to attack Israel they lost… Israel could have easily ended them after the Six Day War in 1967 but they stayed their hand…
Imagine if your neighbor came to your house and took over one of your rooms. What would be your natural response? You would resist and fight back. Despite your efforts, you couldn't reclaim the room because your neighbor was stronger than you. Then your neighbor proposes a deal: they will occupy those rooms but allow you to have the rest of the house, with the condition that you accept their rule. You cannot leave your home without permission. You are restricted from taking any action without their approval. Your only role is to live in the house while they dictate the rules for you to follow.
Do you agree with this? Can anyone answer me?
you explained it very well ty
Netanyahu was created and funded by Hamas as a way to counter attack the PLO which is a secular group as a way to prevent a two state solution
And why they took the room from first place?
Because the arabs started a war, to take israeli rooms for themselves, but they lost.. and if someone once try to kill you you’ll keep in a eye on him right?
Bty there is 2 milions arab live in israel, with citizenship and equal right as the Jaw have. Those videos don’t mention that at all.
@@נתיבןמרגי How can I take a room from a person who doesn't have home at all?
The guy in the back, to my left. He was silent in most of the initial videos on this topic. I initially thought he didn't care much. Now I think he was simply waiting to learn more about it before forming an opinion. Now that he voiced his current opinion, I totally disagree with him. Yet I still appreciate the time he devoted to educate himself. I just hope they keep this going. I'm confident they'll find the truth. They have good hearts
vox is also biased as hell. History speaks has a best one i’ve come across
Netanyahu was created and funded by Hamas as a way to counter attack the PLO which is a secular group as a way to prevent a two state solution
Biased towards who?
absolutely! very left learning
Absolutely. No mention of the Jews forced out of Arabs lands, who got a new home in Israel. Not a word about the people who moved in to work on the farms, now identifying as Palestinians. Not only Jews immigrated, muslims did, too.
Soloman gets it. You guys act as if the IDF does no wrong
In reality, they do no right
Wrong statement, you seem to be watching another video This is a land called Palestine even by the Romans, and a Muslim Christian Jew lived in it under the name Palestine There is no such thing as a Jewish state, even a Jew whose original nationality is Palestinian
U do realise Islam is the newest religion and happened hundreds of years after Christianity and when romans had israle, it was Christians who moved there
16:00 Jews being oppressed by Europe doesn't give them the right to take Palestinian Land and get them out from their homes by force.
Plus there was probably a good reason they were driven out of Europe
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Palestinians shouldn't have accepted them in the first place.
@@Ahmad_Gharbawy I agree, Jews just cause trouble wherever they go
Who gave you the land? When was is rightly yours - sovereign state and rule?
You were never Palestinians under Othman rule, you were all Arabs.
No one took you land, read books that were not written by Arabs.
Really? And all the other Arab Nations exiling them when they were in the end of world war II. That's another thing that was justified or you guys are just trying to justify to exile them all over the place. This is why the nation of Israel exists to protect Jewish people from people like you who don't want them anywhere
My issue with these is they always focus on the Jewish diaspora in Europe. Most of Israel’s Jewish population are from Morocco to Afghanistan. Jews expelled from Muslims countries after they lost a war they started.
My parents are from Syria. We been in Syria since it was part of Solomon’s empire. We been there before Christianity and islam. Now we don’t exist.
The guy with red shorts understands👏
The video didn't mention 1973 war with Egypt and taking back Saina 😂.. they're saying Israel gave it back😂😂
Under the terms of the treaty, which had resulted from the Camp David Accords signed in 1978, Israel returned the entire Sinai Peninsula to Egypt, and, in return, Egypt recognized Israel's right to exist. The two countries subsequently established normal diplomatic relations
It was in the first video
Yesss completely ignored the war in 1973 when Israel lost to Egypt, that’s how we were able to get Sinai back
@@nadahassan8434 Who won the war between Israel and Egypt?
the Israelis
Without cover from the air, the Egyptian army was left vulnerable to attack. Within three days the Israelis had achieved an overwhelming victory on the ground, capturing the Gaza Strip and all of the Sinai Peninsula up to the east bank of the Suez Canal
Really glad you guys took the time to learn about this and debate it and understand it. And see you do your best to provide fair n balanced discussion n well sourced research n information on this complex issue.
Salute✊️🇵🇸🧡
yes but they still need to learn more
Without a doubt. It's entirely foreign to them n the fact that it involves religion, exposes religious or ethnic and racial fault lines that intersect complicates matters. But at the end of the day...there is NO WAY you can justify the killing of est 21, 000 DEAD CIVILIANS/NON-COMBATTANTS 70% of which are KIDS, CUTTING THEM OFF FEOM WATER, FOOD, FUEL N MED SUPPLY... carpet-bombing a CITY 25 miles long/7 miles wide that is the most DENSELY populated in the world....leveling every CIVIL infrastructure built incl places of worship, HOSPITALS n even protected UN facilities...targeting journalists n medical personnel...emotionally terrorizing 2.3 million people by forcing them to FLEE south even as you bomb it , too....collectively punishing 2.3 million for the actions of a handful...IT'S WRONG. It's ILLEGAL ....stealing people's HOMES N MONEY N PROPERTY...is ILLEGAL and u don't need a PhD to figure that out. #CeasefireNOW #PalestinianGenocide #FreePalestine ✊️🇰🇼🧡
#StopArmingIsrael #BDSMovement
Another great heated podcast. Keep learning. Keep thriving for knowledge. Those that chastise you, ignore. You are trying to be objective and comprehend and that is appreciated!
Omg please bring someone on the channel because there is a lot of education that needs to be done
We are here to stay ! Long liVe ISRAEL❤❤🇮🇱🇮🇱💪💪💪✌
Solomon gets it. Every one else seems to not be able to listen to another point of view. The other 3 guys looked really childish and unable to have a conversation.
Check out how these activist felt about Gaza and Israel.Nelson Mandela, Malcom x, Martin Luther king, Angela Davis, Barrack Obama. And even Muhammad Ali. They felt united with Palestine not Israel.
I can't understands how anyone can support Israel. Is it some sort of zionist cult in America? Brainwashing by the Media? They are literally supporting the occupiers. But then again, many people still love Nazi-Germany
Obama??
You can't fully know the truth if you only learn about one side, it's crazy a woman of color siding with a terrorist group when truly jews & blacks have faced the same treatment but jews have for alot longer. If you don't know your Torah, Bible, or Koran, then you truly don't know what your talking about. Through history Israel only attacks when a terrorist group attacks them. Jews are fine with Palestinians. It's hamas & any other terrorist group they would kill you.
@@mbii7667 yes, even though he gave Israel money he did speeches about freedom for Palestine. He didn’t have a good relationship with BiBi. I heard they bumped heads a lot. Israel is our ally , we have agreements with them, and he was obligated. He recently did an interview that was basically saying enough wasn’t done from Gaza and they failed them. He is complicit so activists is me being generous lol. I have a couple of his speeches.
They should also learn from Bayard Rustin - who was a close adviser to MLK. He was a huge proponent of the expansion of freedom and self-emancipation. John D’ Emilio’s 2004 biography called him a “Lost Prophet.“
This is an amazing reaction and I am happy you're looking into this conflict with the goal of understanding. Please don't get mad at Solomon, he's a nice person as sees himself in the shoes of the people of West Bank and Gaza, while the rest of you see things from a political and logical standpoint. Both ways of thinking are valid and its good to have a productive discussion with people with different ways of seeing tings.
The guy in the blue shorts always sees the bigger picture in situations clearly and explains his opinions with actual facts. He doesn’t just go along with the popular opinion, a true mark of intelligence.
Netanyahu was created and funded by Hamas as a way to counter attack the PLO which is a secular group as a way to prevent a two state solution
You are crazy. Three bullies are shouting down the redpants guy, with extremely inaccurate points. And you are talking about the bigger picture. You are the definition of indoctrinated
And please explain his "actual facts" he had this episode. This will be interesting...
Yes please explain, cause he said things like the six day war happened first and that’s why they did the nakba
The Palestinians should be given the whole west bank to govern and self-determination. Zionists are commiting genocide in the area then say they want peace!!
And when it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "We are only peacemakers." Quran 2:11
Palestinians were always there they've just changed their religion to Christianity & Islam. Also most Palestinians and politicians including Hamas have accepted a recognised state according to the 1967 borders but Israel refuses. I think the settlements on their land need to go, an end to the military occupation and right of return for the diaspora as well as reparations. Another thing to mention is Yitzhak Rabin's widow blamed Netanyahu for his assassination.
Beside the insane fair analysis by those dudes ,
In the picture a poor kid runing in front of an armed army , the dude wearing the gray t-shirt
He said he threw a grenade 😂 42:30
The other dude kept saying ,
The lunched a war at them and won the land , and they are being nice to them 😂
Logic left the conversation in that video
Much respect to the guy with the red short , he seem that he have some humanity in him
The way I see it imagine welcoming a homeless person into your home and then within a few months you are all of a sudden confined to your laundry room and not allowed to leave and the homeless person starts inviting other people into your home that they took over that you're not allowed to have any part of when do you stop fighting to get your home back
It's more like imagine inviting people back into the home that was stolen from them that your ancestors stole from the people that stole the home from the original owners(Israel).
@@corrysmith wasnt Israelites cast from the land for disobeying God
No because the Jewish people were attacked many times when they were originally settling there from nations such as rome and exiled hundreds of years ago
@@snowflakesnightmare8592no, it was the isrealities who were led to the promised land. There was no palestine then. It was called Canaan or Judah
@@MadAtMax.300Blackoutvery bad people those Jews
Two state means two separate countries, not two states in one country
The UN proposal was a 2 country solution. The muslims didn't agree with the lands given so they attacked. Did you watch the last video?
are you dumb? the solution that was offered was the give israel the majority of the land when they have like 1/10th of the people@@kevinouellette5316
Netanyahu was created and funded by Hamas as a way to counter attack the PLO which is a secular group as a way to prevent a two state solution
@@kevinouellette5316because majority of the land was given to the Jews meanwhile the Muslims had more people and had a good teens to reject the peace treaties
@@kevinouellette5316Why should they agree?!! It is the land of Palestine. As for Muslims, Christians and Jews to live in peace in the land of Palestine, and those who do not like it should return to Europe from where they came.
Love this video of you guys figuring out what’s going on in a group where you all clearly don’t have the same beliefs. This is amazing. It’s hard to get a whole picture but talking and critical thinking is super important. Thanks yall
It is also worth noting that they understand that they understand that the extremists on both sides make peace farther away. They should also know that the current prime minister (Netanyahu) called for the assassination of the prime minister (Rabin) who wanted to make peace. Rabin was assasinated and Netanyahu became prime minister. Rabins wife blamed Netanyahu for stoking the flames that led to her husbands death.
Thank you Solomon ❤❤❤
Commenting from UK, I must say I only agree with Solomon's thought process.
Solomon keep thinking the way you think - you are like a lion amongst sheep. God bless you.
please have dr norman finklstin in interview and ask him anything he is Jewish and probably the most knowledgeable person about it you literally can ask him anything
Yes !! Have him on, or react to his interview with Candace Owens or Krystal.
Bro in the red shorts is the smartest at all of them
I think you young men are amazing, I don't see any other channel try to understand anyone else's point of view, let alone to the attention of others beliefs, culture or feelings. You all are even mindful of how your words could affect another. Not wanting to be miss understood. I am not dismissing fathers rolls, their importance or influence. I might even be wrong about this assumption, if I am know this is directed to you as well. For that I have to say, good job mothers. I don't have to tell you, but these are some very exceptional young men and I have more hope for America seeing these four bright lights, knowing they are here gives me more hope and even stronger in faith. This channel gives me hope for America and even a bright future. These four I believe are what i always thought America was, and I have hope could be. Not sure it ever really was, or what my part was in its demise, if any. but now I have great hope it will be . Thank you gentlemen for your effort and kindness in spite of the controlling majority interest. Who is more focused on money, votes or the majority than actually seeing right and wrong. Its not that complicated and you four can see past that to respectfully find, and report the truth. Peace can only happen with effort, and compromise. Finding the similarity and not focusing on the differences. I see you all try to do that! Keep up the good work. America needs good men like you, and remember with all the compromise. To thy own self be true! All praise and Glory be to God, and many words of thanks for these young men!
Having Israelis in Palestinian areas is not the problem. The problem is when Israelis actually come and kick the Palestinians out of their houses with help of the idf in order for the said Israelis to now settle in the Palestinians house
😂😂 you dont know what ur talking about 4 arab countries were independent like 5 years ago they dont even have any good armies and israe was armed by British and usa funds , and also the nakba where 750k Palestinians were kicked out that happened before the 6 days war
It pisses me off when people Watch a 10 min recap vid (that glosses over key details) and come to a conclusion about the conflict. Especially the dude in the middle, with the gray, clearly has his mind made up about Muslims being evil.
“That kid probably threw a grenade” 🤣referencing the kid in the picture running away from an IDF check point
American didn’t give them money until after the six day war. They fought and won that on their own…..
The fella In the blue shorts....absolute MVP. My heart goes out to him, he's put this entire channel on his back. I see his growth with each reaction ..the other 3; seems like when they wake up each morning with their previous days educational memories erased. I feel bad for ragging on them, imagine waking up every morning and having retained zero of any information you tried to absorb the previous day. The 3 are the disciples and are following Mr blue shorts...he is shepherding these 3 from being lost beyond hope. Disciples, please honor and obey fella in the blue shorts. You have fallen short in being a steward of knowledge. Knowledge Is power. You were made in God's image to be amongst the powerful. God gave you Dominion over the creatures, land, and sea. Blue shorts has earned authority by using his ears to hear and his eyes to see. Therefore do not dishonor him by not washing his feet first before u soil the basin. For I tell you the good news today, he has been heaven sent to save your reactions from the Devil. The Devil is in the details. Honor your blue shorts Shepard, for he is the Cartier Savior. Dona nobos pacem.
HARD disagree. The guy in the red shorts are my MVP. The only one who is trying to put himself in the Palestinians shoes. Blue shorts likes to talk, but gets it wrong every time
@@mortimersmithsr2522HARRRRD DISAGREE w/ both of u. Blue and Red shorts have their good and bad takes on this conflict (I appreciate their efforts to be as unbiased in this genocide) None of them understand international law (You can’t just fight for land and now it’s urs), which is why they see Israel as being kind by giving back Palestinians their OWN LAND. Thing 1 and 2 in the back need to educate themselves a bit more and take everything into account. But props to this channel Ive seen a lot of growth but they need someone to come and answer questions rather than speaking nonsense.
@@brug6518 How is bluepants unbiased? We just saw him shout nonsense for one hour straight. Redpants is the only one who does not support the occupiers. I understand they are uninformed and indoctrinated, but after 10 videos on this topic the only one who are staring to figure out who the bad guys are, is Mr- Redpants. Who came to your house and sat you down to explain the situation to you?
@@mortimersmithsr2522 You disagree but then don't dispute my point. Again, my main point is that blue shorts is the only one who has a memory that works day2day. The other 3 don't retain information from the previous day. Red shorts has to pause so often because he can't even remember what happened 3 minutes ago. He's Amelia Bedelia. Seriously, if I ever hung out with him id tell him a few extraordinary facts about random things. Do that with him once or twice and then he'd trust me enough to where he'd believe anything I say. The guy is a clown. When u hear about college kids dying from hazing.....um yeah he fits the profile to be that goof. It's a particular type of person that can't remember anything but will believe the next thing you tell them. As an opportunistic sadist, I love it, makes my loins tingle
Hey guys. I’m in Arab living inside Israel, I’m happy to speak about my experience and share it with you. It will give you another perspective on the situation 🙏🏽
Red shorts is the only guy who GETS IT!!
Naaaaah did he just say that that little kid might’ve had thrown a gran*de at those IOF?? Brother please!!
"They showed Palestine love by giving them land" wow.
Wouldn't call mass murdering 1000's of children "showing love"
The analogies this episode were 10/10 😂 I always agree with Brock and Taj, Brandon’s always doing the research and deep thinking, and Solomon is always trying to see it from both perspectives with as much kindness as possible. ♥️🙌🏻 love the videos
I totally love all the guys! I do find myself agreeing more often with Taj and Brock. And most Brandon most definitely does the research and Solomon is the diplomat. They make a wonderful team! ❤️
David Ben-Gurion (the founder of the State of Israel) :
What matters is not maintaining the status quo. We must create a dynamic state, oriented towards expansion.”
“After the establishment of the state, which will make us a powerful force, we will abolish the partition and expand to all of Palestine.”
Yasser Arafat:
"We plan to eliminate the state of Israel and establish a purely Palestinian state. We will make life unbearable for Jews by psychological warfare and population explosion. We Palestinians will take over everything, including all of Jerusalem."
Golda Meir:
“We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children. We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children. We will only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us”
OMG Solmoooon I lovvve u damn this dude got brains but nobody is giving him the chance to articulate his ideas the way he wanted
One of the largest jewish population is also in the US.
I want people to keep in mind that before zionism became a thing all three religions lived in peace in the area called Palestine. Also Palestinians are descendents of canaanites. They speak arabic but that doesn't make them arabs. Same applies to Lebanon who had a higher percentage of canaaanites descendents.
Fyi. Its considered illegal occupation (under internation law) when you take a land during war.. To the guy in the red shorts.. You have my respect..
That guy's analogy about the house is too funny. Basically saying the I can show up in front of his house with 700 dudes, take his house and he should be grateful I gave him a room in the back. Good stuff
Hah😂😂😂 I was just thinking about the green passport like African Americans they was not allowed to be in some places and the police you can find so many similarly thing there but what can I say 🫠 we all need to learn about history there was a saying if I remember right that the face of the oppression
change, I dont know my English is not very good from the river to the sea Palestine will be free
quick question if ur not scared.
what country are you from?
@@stasgilis6611
I am scared. And now I know where you're from
so how about you tell your countrymen they should give a room for every conquest they made establishing your country?
Also, obviously, why should they be happy with just a room?
@@TheVcasf
47:17 Bassem Youssef LITERALLY anwsered that when he was saying there is no hamas in the west bank yet ppl are being killed, detained with no charges and abused by the IOF. And FYI, there IS an APARTHEID WALL surrounding the WHOLE WEST BANK, in addition to, thousands of checkpoints distributed across the area.
On another note, your efforts are trully appreciated but please try to pay more attention to the details. You won't be so confused then...
Isreal lost war to Egypt in 1973 and that’s how we took our land back they didn’t give us any lands as you guys mentioned actually you can’t take any thing from Israel without violence
Under the terms of the treaty, which had resulted from the Camp David Accords signed in 1978, Israel returned the entire Sinai Peninsula to Egypt, and, in return, Egypt recognized Israel's right to exist. The two countries subsequently established normal diplomatic relations
lost?!?😂😂😂stop liee😊
@@d_d_14 go educate your and search about it if you don’t believe me
@@romt-qr2ik after we got half of our lands they made the treaty
@@d_d_14 so you guys are denying the huge defeat in 1973 ??
Justice and freedom for Palestine
Get Norman Finkelatein! You still so far from the truth on this conflict. It’s time you get a scholar instead of biased western outlet. Like Vox. It doesn’t cover 90%. My recommendation is get Norman Finkelatein!
That Area A, AREA B and AREA C is west Bank, not the whole Israel. So Israel get their own land AND they will also get land in West Bank which is not fair
26:44
Imagine you have 100% of a land
Then, someone come and take it from you.
After that they 'compromise' 20% of the land for you.
Would you call this a 'compromise' ?
two guys in the middle have an IQ of a donut bruh lmao props to Brandon for actually knowing more and understanding this a bit better
Would you accept someone stealing your house and being “nice enough” to share? Nah screw that was the initial reaction of the Palestinians that’s why they said no. Decades later after they were defeated and oppressed, they were never really offered anything substantial because Israel had all the power at that point and don’t have any incentive to negotiate in good faith.
Jews God chooses people. God gave them the land.
The muslims built the dome of the rock on the Temple Mount, the holiest place of the Jews hands down. Do you think muslims should give that temple back? Or is it only bad when the Jews take back land that was taken by them? Pagans weren't even a minority in Israel before islam was created. So who do you think these palistinians were?
@@debrarankin9626 God's chosen people don't kill innocent civilians including children and women. God's chosen people don't spit on other's because of their religious beliefs. God's chosen people don't shoot unarmed children in the back and mistreat the elderly. God's chosen people don't get exiled from places 109 times. You have it all wrong, love. These are uncivilzed, inhumane, vile scum.
Netanyahu was created and funded by Hamas as a way to counter attack the PLO which is a secular group as a way to prevent a two state solution
@@kevinouellette5316why should they? The al aqsa mosque is a holy mosque, it’s not just some mosque, it’s a holy mosque for Muslims, Jews should build their holy land somewhere else because it doenst belong to them, Israelis took the land of Canaan who are modern day Palestinians and the Muslim Arabs are the real semites and the worthy people of owning Jerusalem
U guys should watch breaking the silence on you tube. Ex Israeli soldiers speak about how they were trained to break Palestinians down.
Tantura is also excellent to watch.
This is Adam, the 9 year old boy killed by a sniper He was shot 8 hours ago He was a baby.
There is no Ham*s, or a cease fire, in the West Bank. i wanna send u the vid guys but idk yall instagram , there is so much thigs From the center of the event i would like you guys to see , that broke heart in pieces
انت عربي جيد جدا نعم ابعت فيدوهات من قبل شوي استشهدوا طفلين فلسطينيين ابعت خلي يشوف هول الربع شباب
im a girl from lebanon , thank you ofc ima share what my neighborhoods are facing every fkn day@@FreePalestine4747
We need to hear from a historian or someone increbdily educated on this topic. Can you get Norman Finklestein please or Scott Ritter or Marc Lamont. ANYONE who is able to discribe the situation that doesn't have a dog in the fight
Or Robert Spencer who wrote a book on it...The Palestinian Delusion.
@Doug_M Robert Spencer is an Islamophobe who made his career on that premise. I mean someone who TRULY doesn't have a dog in the fight. Someone who isn't an antisemite or a Islamophobe, just to speak to the facts
Netanyahu was created and funded by Hamas as a way to counter attack the PLO which is a secular group as a way to prevent a two state solution
@@Doug_MRobert Spencer is anti Muslim, so his claims don’t make sense
Just go watch Destiny, he did multiple days where he did hours and hours of live research making notes about all this for a debate he has coming up.
I hope the brother on the right never loses his light. That’s a powerful gift. Never lose it
‘Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel's creation’
-Avner Cohen, a former Israeli official
Netanyahu was created and funded by Hamas as a way to counter attack the PLO which is a secular group as a way to prevent a two state solution
The map shown at 25:14 does not show a "contiguous" Palestinian state; just a cluster of green separated areas. How can you form a Palestinian state with a map like that?