What an interesting chronicle of a heady, yet disappointing time in American engineering. I was a small boy who spend many days at Dr. Van Karman’s home on Marengo in Pasadena. He was my godfather and left me many good memories. My mom and dad were close to Dr Van Karman and his sister and his assistant Marie Roddenberry(sp). My mom was a friend of many of those included in the documentary at Caltech and JPL. My mother also worked for and with him as a translator with JPL in the 1950’s and my dad was employed at Aerojet in the 1960’s. I have many mementos he gave my brother and I. I consider myself so lucky to have been exposed to his world. Thank you for such a wonderful piece of history.
I love this story - thanks for sharing - really warms my heart hearing everyone's cherished experience - hearing the insider stories that are memorable that never make it to the documentaries even! But I'm so glad this documentary opens up the conversation for that :)
Extremely interesting and very educational! These obscure figures in the early history of Aerojet and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory were (until now) entirely unknown to me.
excellent documentary with such interesting details on the tragedies affecting human beings and their families and associates. Frank Malina may you and yours find the peace you so vehemently believed in. ty JPL
A wonderful story and insight into the formation of the JPL. It certainly has the makings of a feature film and its a shame this documentary appears to be a hidden treasure.
Great documentary. I actively follow all space news and the history of space travel and I've heard very little about the people showcased here. Thank you for producing this video as I feel the early days of rocketry and the personalites whom created the foundation for what we have today is a very important chapter in the story of the pioneers of spaceflight.
The names sounded familiar to me for whatever reason, and @39:50 I remembered from where: The book Ignition! An Informal History of Liquid Rocket Propellants by John D Clark. I highly recommend it!
Thank you JPL/NASA/NACA ..! Modern Rocketry and aerospace Science truly does owe a debt of gratitude to the Engineers that laid the foundations for us..!
During the lunar lander era, my dad worked for CEC in Pasadena, making pressure transducers. Their biggest account was JPL. My uncle worked for Aerojet General in Monrovia. I'm proud of you, guys.
I put this on my electrical engineering inspiration list! Thanks JPL - you're the best. I love the title - what I've been waiting for. Knowing the behind the scenes - what started it all - is what I live for!
Why this video is unlisted and with very few views, I don't understand. This is one of the best documentaries about early rocket and space technologies that I have ever seen. And about someone who is relatively unknown. So sad to see how some ridiculous political witch hunt interrupted the careers and life overall of some amazing scientists.
Thank you for posting this amazing documentary I hadn't heard of Jack parsons until I found a biography about him "Fallen Angel " it's a great read & I urge everyone to check it out so this documentary is a A+ with myself thank you again for posting 👍🥰
to me - you need a normal person who isn't afraid to go out there (as in away from social customs) - to be able to handle the nuttiness of life - to succeed. This video proves that - these originators of JPL were in a world that wasn't normal - it was plagued with paranoia over regular people doing good work. You needed a little craziness to get by, but not so much you lose sight of reality. However, sometimes even that wasn't enough (like when one of them got deported back to china - if I remember correctly). This video shows how life might be really hard where the odds are stacked against you - and through all of that - you're able to start a whole empire stretching all of the universe! The most amazing story that has been my inspiration. I've been waiting for this video for 26 years! I've been so glad to have it on youtube. This is what makes youtube great - I see everything everyone wants to present and is proud of. My hope is for everyone to be a hub of their own life's reserves - once we achieve the imagination age :). It's so inspirational to build my youtube channel one day if I ever get to it.
"deported to china" is actually glossing over the incredible story that deserves its own documentary. There was a lot of detainment and surveillance and he wasn't allowed to leave the US even though he wanted to, until China traded the US lots of captured spies and other things. Honestly, just shows how "odds stacked against you" just might be what you need to succeed. Had Tsien stayed in the US he would have just been another rocket scientist, but a few setbacks later he turns out to be a hero for 1.4 billion people. If you ever encounter issues setting up your youtube enterprise, perhaps it's not such a bad thing, and you'll be pushed to another path where you find success.
I agree - I love the inspiration in this - it's so true. Sometimes you try to make something work that doesn't - that just being told 'no' harshly is the greatest gift you can get! That documentary would sound very amazing. I'd watch. Where's biographics when you need them?@@real_dddf
So many of the great and innovative institutions started as small shops to pursue "crazy" ideas. This is, for me, a missing piece that helps to explain the beginnings of such a magnificent research institute we call JPL - and the beginnings of the business with the most cool name of Aerojet-Rocketdyne.
I absolutely love this content. I've got to ask. Why is the channel now monetized to where we're seeing ads played in the middle of the video about every 10 minutes? If that's the case who's making the money because RUclips has to pay you to advertise over your content. The last time I checked JPL is a government-funded research facility for NASA. As much as jpl like's to pretend that they're an independent agency they are not. So who's receiving the funds from the advertisement Revenue and how does this work?
ooo - I see all the 'jpl and the space age' videos. I like watching the jpl animation educational videos - especially when they were used for the show How the Universe Works on the Science Channel. It's amazing how we came to a day where we allowed the ideas of these 3 to be brought to life visually from the real-world knowledge collected from the exploration of them.
Amazing story! Nice to know the beginnings of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. My Mother grew up in Pasadena and worked at a company in 1949 called Pacific Aeromotive. An Aircraft company in the area which might have become or been swallowed up by one of the other giants. I still have her photo ID badge.
Such a great documentary. As a Chinese, all I know before is that Chen was the student of Von Carmen.Didn't expect he was involved this much and played such an important role in the early organization of JPL.Also it's a shame seeing how these pioneers were treated in the 50s...
☆93☆ Frater V01DH4WK Jack Parsons...Thankyou for the courage to do what thou wilt... From all who have eyes to see..and ears to hear.. Love to all seekers of the infinite, may you all shine for many many more rotations around our local star... ☆93☆
Amazing story. I love this series. Would be great to learn the story of Qian Xuesen. I bet his story is just as interesting. Thanks to him china may be the next country to land ppl on the moon.
Persecution of Caltech personnel in the post war anti-communist hysteria wasn't limited to Malina, Tsien, von Karman and others in JPL. Caltech professor (and two-time Nobel laureate) Linus Pauling was also targeted. He eventually resigned.
Indeed! The McCarthy Era was completely insane. The US really shot itself in the foot with its maniacal anti-communist fear and persecution in terms of destroying so much of its own talent for absolutely no reason. Oppenheimer was another notable victim in the sciences ... and possibly the most hypocritical given his work did so much for the state of which he was then considered an "enemy". Who ever thought that the prospect of egalitarianism, inclusion, true liberty and relinquishing greed could motivate people to such evil? It was just bizarre ... and it still reverberates now as a real obstacle to the implementation of universal public healthcare, among many other things.
@@PBeringer Amen. I left Oppenheimer out because he was no longer on the faculty when his security hearing was held in 1954. That proceeding was a star chamber proceeding using old information in order to remove him any position of governmental influence. They wanted his perceptions out of the way. The associations of his wife, his brother and sister-in-law were also made an issue.
I would need to rewatch this episode again. It's interesting and this was kinda a secret episode. It wasn't well shown in the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory
when the odds are all against you - rise above it all (literally). Let nothing stop you. If nothing else - that's all I care about in life. That's what they did - and look where we're at now!
But his Buddies were the Masterminds: Jack "Marvel" Parsons and Ed Forman. Foto at 13:49, The only non-okkultist besides Parson and the circumcised chosen ones is Ed Forman.
I have such great memories watching this live with JPL in the chat. It was so memorable. This is my favorite video on this channel - even though I like the NASA@60 videos - especially because I was in one of them in person. It was great. JPL is great for so much. I have their water bottle with me everywhere - someone found it for me when we were there. It took an engineer brain to figure out just out to open it - super engineered. You need a rocket science degree to open it lol. From rocketeer to bottle opening - this is what America and JPL is all about lol.
What a shameful time for America when simply wanting a better world was considered a crime. So much for the so-called "land of the free". Not much has changed since then unfortunately, now they watch all of us.
Most people like to have you at a clear-cut cubbyhole.Sometimes I find that my former colleagues in scientific and technical research regard me no longer as such, and now I'm an artist.Among the artists, they find it very difficult to accept me as an artist, and they say I'm an engineer.Well, it doesn't really much matter.I'm a space man.
If the entire world did a fraction of a percent of these rocketeers - imagine where the world would be! I got to wake up to this thought everyday - and connect with it until the world's to this caliber.
And its also important to acknowledge that , the vociferous fears of Nuclear Armageddon NEVER happened, as attributed by the early Atomic/Rocket Engineers/Scientists. So may we please give Credit to our Politicians.
His story should be a lesson for America. We need the most creative minds available. Because of our own insecurities. We sent away or kept away. The most inventive minds that ever existed. We apologize Frank. Signed, USA We gave China their own Rocketeer. Smh China will rule the 🌎
What a waste of talent, especially the FBI driving real geniuses away when we needed them most . It seems only Von Kármán had enough clout to not succumb to J Edgar Hoover's bigoted and illegal attacks. Though I think Malina won in the end by being able to live his conscience and work toward peace in a world gone mad. We still have JPL and Aerojet, while Aerojet is was absorbed.
You are ridiculous. Them mentioning it was key to understanding why Hoover was frothing at the mouth to find evidence on Medina. If someone from the 30s having different ideals bothers you much you must get TRIGGERED A LOT. Man up dude and don't focus on such trivial things about the founding of JPL.
What an interesting chronicle of a heady, yet disappointing time in American engineering. I was a small boy who spend many days at Dr. Van Karman’s home on Marengo in Pasadena. He was my godfather and left me many good memories. My mom and dad were close to Dr Van Karman and his sister and his assistant Marie Roddenberry(sp). My mom was a friend of many of those included in the documentary at Caltech and JPL. My mother also worked for and with him as a translator with JPL in the 1950’s and my dad was employed at Aerojet in the 1960’s. I have many mementos he gave my brother and I. I consider myself so lucky to have been exposed to his world. Thank you for such a wonderful piece of history.
I love this story - thanks for sharing - really warms my heart hearing everyone's cherished experience - hearing the insider stories that are memorable that never make it to the documentaries even! But I'm so glad this documentary opens up the conversation for that :)
This documentary needs the usual RUclips placement boosts: channel subscriptions,inclusion in playlists, keyword additions
Extremely interesting and very educational! These obscure figures in the early history of Aerojet and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory were (until now) entirely unknown to me.
JPL. Thank you for all of the full length documentaries.
Thanks JPL for singing about this unsung hero.
What a great documentary! Thoroughly enjoyed it.
excellent documentary with such interesting details on the tragedies affecting human beings and their families and associates. Frank Malina may you and yours find the peace you so vehemently believed in. ty JPL
Congratulations on this amazing documentary! Thank you JPL.
A wonderful story and insight into the formation of the JPL. It certainly has the makings of a feature film and its a shame this documentary appears to be a hidden treasure.
Great documentary. I actively follow all space news and the history of space travel and I've heard very little about the people showcased here. Thank you for producing this video as I feel the early days of rocketry and the personalites whom created the foundation for what we have today is a very important chapter in the story of the pioneers of spaceflight.
The names sounded familiar to me for whatever reason, and @39:50 I remembered from where: The book Ignition! An Informal History of Liquid Rocket Propellants by John D Clark. I highly recommend it!
@@ArKritz84 Thanks for that book suggestion. I just downloaded it for free as a pdf from pdfdrive.
Thank you JPL/NASA/NACA ..! Modern Rocketry and aerospace Science truly does owe a debt of gratitude to the Engineers that laid the foundations for us..!
During the lunar lander era, my dad worked for CEC in Pasadena, making pressure transducers. Their biggest account was JPL. My uncle worked for Aerojet General in Monrovia. I'm proud of you, guys.
Fantastic documentary, very well produced and a great story!
I put this on my electrical engineering inspiration list! Thanks JPL - you're the best. I love the title - what I've been waiting for. Knowing the behind the scenes - what started it all - is what I live for!
so funny - I put it on this list, but all the other lists it's supposed to be on - it's not there for.
Why this video is unlisted and with very few views, I don't understand. This is one of the best documentaries about early rocket and space technologies that I have ever seen. And about someone who is relatively unknown. So sad to see how some ridiculous political witch hunt interrupted the careers and life overall of some amazing scientists.
The political witchhunts happen continuously. And these same politicians are con trolled by those who gave us the v ir us and their vack seen.
Mass starvation probably upset some folks.
These JPL documentaries are so good. I hate to say that being unknown just keeps him unknown. Everyone knows Goddard or Von Braun.
Welcome to Amerika, as they say
Just when I thought I couldn't dislike Hoover more, this documentary goes and proves me wrong.
wild times! excellent doc of a difficult story.
"History...is a nightmare from which I am trying to awake." -J. Joyce
well done!
JPL thanks forthis inisight into rocketers. Cutting edge development, failure, perserverance, and success.
Extraordinary document, a lot of things I did not know till now.
Great piece! Thanks to you and RUclips 🍻
Thank you for posting this amazing documentary I hadn't heard of Jack parsons until I found a biography about him "Fallen Angel " it's a great read & I urge everyone to check it out so this documentary is a A+ with myself thank you again for posting 👍🥰
to me - you need a normal person who isn't afraid to go out there (as in away from social customs) - to be able to handle the nuttiness of life - to succeed. This video proves that - these originators of JPL were in a world that wasn't normal - it was plagued with paranoia over regular people doing good work. You needed a little craziness to get by, but not so much you lose sight of reality. However, sometimes even that wasn't enough (like when one of them got deported back to china - if I remember correctly). This video shows how life might be really hard where the odds are stacked against you - and through all of that - you're able to start a whole empire stretching all of the universe! The most amazing story that has been my inspiration. I've been waiting for this video for 26 years! I've been so glad to have it on youtube. This is what makes youtube great - I see everything everyone wants to present and is proud of. My hope is for everyone to be a hub of their own life's reserves - once we achieve the imagination age :). It's so inspirational to build my youtube channel one day if I ever get to it.
"deported to china" is actually glossing over the incredible story that deserves its own documentary. There was a lot of detainment and surveillance and he wasn't allowed to leave the US even though he wanted to, until China traded the US lots of captured spies and other things. Honestly, just shows how "odds stacked against you" just might be what you need to succeed. Had Tsien stayed in the US he would have just been another rocket scientist, but a few setbacks later he turns out to be a hero for 1.4 billion people.
If you ever encounter issues setting up your youtube enterprise, perhaps it's not such a bad thing, and you'll be pushed to another path where you find success.
I agree - I love the inspiration in this - it's so true. Sometimes you try to make something work that doesn't - that just being told 'no' harshly is the greatest gift you can get!
That documentary would sound very amazing. I'd watch. Where's biographics when you need them?@@real_dddf
Another great JPL doco.
This is an absolutely wonderful documentary. Being born and raised in LA, as well as a retired engineer, I had no idea of this fascinating story...
What an astounding documentary!
So many of the great and innovative institutions started as small shops to pursue "crazy" ideas. This is, for me, a missing piece that helps to explain the beginnings of such a magnificent research institute we call JPL - and the beginnings of the business with the most cool name of Aerojet-Rocketdyne.
I absolutely love this content. I've got to ask. Why is the channel now monetized to where we're seeing ads played in the middle of the video about every 10 minutes? If that's the case who's making the money because RUclips has to pay you to advertise over your content. The last time I checked JPL is a government-funded research facility for NASA. As much as jpl like's to pretend that they're an independent agency they are not. So who's receiving the funds from the advertisement Revenue and how does this work?
Thank you for this documentary! So many people have contributed that are mentioned nowhere, how about an episode of the "lower decks" ?
Thanks for staying on this issue Brodie. You rock!
ooo - I see all the 'jpl and the space age' videos. I like watching the jpl animation educational videos - especially when they were used for the show How the Universe Works on the Science Channel. It's amazing how we came to a day where we allowed the ideas of these 3 to be brought to life visually from the real-world knowledge collected from the exploration of them.
Amazing story! Nice to know the beginnings of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. My Mother grew up in Pasadena and worked at a company in 1949 called Pacific Aeromotive. An Aircraft company in the area which might have become or been swallowed up by one of the other giants. I still have her photo ID badge.
Amazing document
Beautiful and interesting documentary an engineer with a heart 🙏❤️
Such a great documentary. As a Chinese, all I know before is that Chen was the student of Von Carmen.Didn't expect he was involved this much and played such an important role in the early organization of JPL.Also it's a shame seeing how these pioneers were treated in the 50s...
From the first minutes I smell the analogy directed to our days.
☆93☆ Frater V01DH4WK
Jack Parsons...Thankyou for the courage to do what thou wilt...
From all who have eyes to see..and ears to hear..
Love to all seekers of the infinite, may you all shine for many many more rotations around our local star...
☆93☆
May he never be forgotten
JPL stands for Jack Parsons laboratory, that should be never forgotten.
Watched FROM Nepal 🇳🇵 by IOE students
Fantastic documentary!
Amazing story. I love this series. Would be great to learn the story of Qian Xuesen. I bet his story is just as interesting. Thanks to him china may be the next country to land ppl on the moon.
Great docu 🔥
51:05 : Burt Rutan presented a similar rocket assembly at his recent Oshkosh seminar
Persecution of Caltech personnel in the post war anti-communist hysteria wasn't limited to Malina, Tsien, von Karman and others in JPL. Caltech professor (and two-time Nobel laureate) Linus Pauling was also targeted. He eventually resigned.
Indeed! The McCarthy Era was completely insane. The US really shot itself in the foot with its maniacal anti-communist fear and persecution in terms of destroying so much of its own talent for absolutely no reason. Oppenheimer was another notable victim in the sciences ... and possibly the most hypocritical given his work did so much for the state of which he was then considered an "enemy". Who ever thought that the prospect of egalitarianism, inclusion, true liberty and relinquishing greed could motivate people to such evil? It was just bizarre ... and it still reverberates now as a real obstacle to the implementation of universal public healthcare, among many other things.
@@PBeringer Amen. I left Oppenheimer out because he was no longer on the faculty when his security hearing was held in 1954. That proceeding was a star chamber proceeding using old information in order to remove him any position of governmental influence. They wanted his perceptions out of the way.
The associations of his wife, his brother and sister-in-law were also made an issue.
Thank you JPL.
Man, Parsons was one seriously freaky dude. Like "don't look into it. Trust me. You don't want to know. Don't say I didn't warn you" freaky.
"Science is eternal, and it's progress continuous".
So good
Please make this video downloadable. Am in Africa
I would need to rewatch this episode again. It's interesting and this was kinda a secret episode. It wasn't well shown in the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory
when the odds are all against you - rise above it all (literally). Let nothing stop you. If nothing else - that's all I care about in life. That's what they did - and look where we're at now!
why is this unlisted?
Wow, great documentary! Thanks so much! Let's get this one some more likes people :)
This is showing now on the NASA Channel (205 on Comcast)
Excellent!
1:06:50 : This is not true. German launched V-2s reached over 615,000 feet
Jack Parsons Lives
Parsons was the GRTOAT. The connections and spinnoffs made cinema look cheap
1:08:59
He was not being persecuted for success in rocketry.
But his Buddies were the Masterminds: Jack "Marvel" Parsons and Ed Forman. Foto at 13:49, The only non-okkultist besides Parson and the circumcised chosen ones is Ed Forman.
I have such great memories watching this live with JPL in the chat. It was so memorable. This is my favorite video on this channel - even though I like the NASA@60 videos - especially because I was in one of them in person. It was great. JPL is great for so much. I have their water bottle with me everywhere - someone found it for me when we were there. It took an engineer brain to figure out just out to open it - super engineered. You need a rocket science degree to open it lol. From rocketeer to bottle opening - this is what America and JPL is all about lol.
What a shameful time for America when simply wanting a better world was considered a crime. So much for the so-called "land of the free". Not much has changed since then unfortunately, now they watch all of us.
Where is the movie about his life…
There’s a Chinese movie about Tsien and a tv series called Strange Angel about Parson
Most people like to have you at a clear-cut cubbyhole.Sometimes I find that my former colleagues in scientific and technical research regard me no longer as such, and now I'm an artist.Among the artists, they find it very difficult to accept me as an artist, and they say I'm an engineer.Well, it doesn't really much matter.I'm a space man.
Wow they mentioned Parsons
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If the entire world did a fraction of a percent of these rocketeers - imagine where the world would be! I got to wake up to this thought everyday - and connect with it until the world's to this caliber.
And its also important to acknowledge that , the vociferous fears of Nuclear Armageddon NEVER happened, as attributed by the early Atomic/Rocket Engineers/Scientists. So may we please give Credit to our Politicians.
JPL and Goddard both developed JATO but for different services.
parsons was in close contact with aleister crowley and ron hubbert founder of scientology
See how Biff became Hill Valley’s first millionaire
then how many ideas did Tesla have?
Too many advertisements for a university. Don‘t they get no mor funding ?
Schimmel Forge
Josh Well
Schmeler Lock
Jacobi Inlet
jack parsons was receiving messages about how to create advanced aircraft technology from intelligent demons beyond the vail
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Bode Ferry
His story should be a lesson for America.
We need the most creative minds available.
Because of our own insecurities.
We sent away or kept away.
The most inventive minds that ever existed.
We apologize Frank.
Signed,
USA
We gave China their own Rocketeer.
Smh
China will rule the 🌎
The world does not need a ruler. It is the planet we own our lives to, not a place to be conquered. We, the humans.
@@AustralLabs
What are you on...
Please step away from the keyboard.
The internet thanks you.
Kasandra Turnpike
Delphine Wells
Kuvalis Mills
Daisha Glens
its a travesty how they were treated...
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How many other sad destructions of political paranoia happened by that time?
Rogahn Points
Andy Views
Johnson Thomas Perez Jason Miller Michelle
Amazing that the feeble minded people won't destroy their interests "aka" money 😮
Lewis Barbara Thompson Matthew Miller Brenda
Maybe the Royals are tryna offset that AWFUL gaudy looking big red QuickTrip patch in the sleeves?
more american LIES as usual.
I AM THE MESSIAH ITS THE APOCALYPSE NOT GOING TO LEAVE ME STRANDED
A millionaire communist. Such characters are not rare at all.
What a waste of talent, especially the FBI driving real geniuses away when we needed them most . It seems only Von Kármán had enough clout to not succumb to J Edgar Hoover's bigoted and illegal attacks.
Though I think Malina won in the end by being able to live his conscience and work toward peace in a world gone mad.
We still have JPL and Aerojet, while Aerojet is was absorbed.
Amazing how those who possess such intelligence can support something as destructive as socialism.
perhaps that fact should give you pause.
This seems like propaganda of some form...
طاب يومك مولاي سيدي خالق الموجودات الكونية ومسيرها ومنزلها
(عز جاهك وجل ثنائك وتقدست اسمائك وتمجدت اقوالك وتتوجت في رؤسنا ارأئك ودام سلطانك احقاباً ودهوراً وابداً وازمنة بعيدة)
احمدك يارب لجعل عندي اولاد .
مستشاركم المخلص
رائد أحمد يوسف عبدالله الطائي
Great video,Totally ruined by the book moneygrubbing commercials unwatchable quit and half way through
Citizen of the world? Socialist? Bah humbug
Don't care...
No, you're actually just scared of something ...
@@PBeringer ha....nope
You are ridiculous. Them mentioning it was key to understanding why Hoover was frothing at the mouth to find evidence on Medina. If someone from the 30s having different ideals bothers you much you must get TRIGGERED A LOT. Man up dude and don't focus on such trivial things about the founding of JPL.
@@EricHamm ha....NOT
You clicked, you commented, you care...whoops!