Destiny 2 - The Final Shape Reveal has changed EVERYTHING for Destiny's Story! (MASSIVE SPOILERS)
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- Опубликовано: 8 апр 2024
- Destiny 2's reveal of The Final Shape has fundamentally changed everything for the franchise and its story going forward. The lore implications are staggering. Guardians will be able to utilize what's being referred to as "Prismatic," a new subclass that synergizes Light and Darkness to allow them both to be used at the same time. In the Final Shape we'll also be facing a hole new enemy based on The Witness known as The Dread. Ultimately though, it might be the combination of our Light and Dark together, forming a better understanding of what the Final Shape is that changes the universe forever.
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A warlock should be able to have ALL of their children with this new thing
A disheveled look
That's all I can think about. This is about to be a Warlock main Renaissance. Lol
Gonna have to name that build Nick Cannon
If I can't have all the buddies then what is the point
Hatchlings, void souls, arc souls, stasy turrets? Holy shit
I love when Bungie is backed into a corner forced to cook gourmet
I think they realized if they don't deliver after the layoffs and terrible pr with the Sony acquisition its survival is on the line
Gotta imagine that bungo triggered defcon 1 and mega crunched all this out after the spectacularly mid reveal last year. No way they would have hidden this if it was at all planned in the initial scope for the final shape
Just took longtime players like me to quit for almost a year lol
I think yall are mad if you think they did all this since the last reveal. They've probably had this planned for ages....
@@TheCorrectOpinion100 ages = 6 months ago
prismatic is basically how in-lore guardians are so im pretty excited
Well, in the sense that we see some of them use multiple light subclass powers. But I don't think anyone uses both the light and dark in tandem. Or even stasis and strand at the same time.
In lore, they do. Zavala for example was a Striker but could freely use Ward of Dawn. But mixing both light and dark, that is something waaay different!
not true until we have the ability to load up 2 different supers
@@csnation Zavala can use arc and void, but he's an outlier as one of the strongest. Most guardians don't stray outside of one subclass. Yes the restrictions on classes and subclasses aren't the same in the lore but it's harder for most to be able to master or even use more than one damage type. Until we discovered darkness, but still many couldn't use more light damage types. Mixing different abilities so easily is something not seen in lore at all before.
Only took 9 years.
The Witness is out here thinking "damn, why did I give them darkness powers again?"
"We refuse to use the Light. You, on the other hand, lack our objections. Once we Take you... the Final Shape will soon follow."
@@BerenElendilAPGaming Is this an actual line, if so, from where?
@@aidenfanucci9523 wasn't it said when the witness possessed our ghost during LightFall?
Weren't they trying to temp us to side with them instead of the traveler?
Because In the dark timeline the guardians that used stasis defected to the dark forces with Eris morn. The exo stranger teaching us to properly use stasis is the game changer that backfired on that witness
Prismatic has created lore accurate guardians
Much more powerful than lore guardians, nobody else can use light and dark at the same time
Finally, been talking about it since I made my guardian back in beta d1
@@kogden8110 Yeah, in the lore, they can switch at the drop of a hat back and forth but I could see Prismatic essentially be fusing a light element and a dark element together into one unique power.
Middle school to second year of university, Destiny has been a part of my life even when i stopped playing. Glad to hear byf and actually enjoy destiny again.
It’s been sophomore year of HS, to now what’s about to be my first year as a PhD student. I’m low key depressed tho cause the new release date is literally my first day in the program. Idk if I’ll ever end up having the time to play it 🥲
@@catalan500_8The game will be there for a while I think
@@dosears1229 I ain’t gonna have the time for it anymore. The schooling I’m going for and the job I’m getting right after don’t allow for free time so it doesn’t matter how long “it’s there” I just won’t have the time to play it anymore 😕
@@catalan500_8 ah
Same here except I dropped out
This made me realize Destiny is a lot like Oryx, *”I have died many times, but these deaths were only temporary.”*
They haven't even released it yet lmao
@@krzysztofczajka6752your words have also been said a thousand times. Enjoy believing you broke the cycle
This was fire
Lol wait don't be fanboy
"If my video was the first You've seen, get out of here right now!"
*Sigh* I'll be back for you Byf! Mark my words!
“I’m watching you Wazowski, always watching,”
It'll be worth it. Trust me.
🤓☝️
You will have to turn Amish for two months to avoid this hype. It's already exploding across the internet.
@@zacharylangford773 Oh no worries I just wanted to hear it all from the dev team first
The husk is an amalgamation of fallen and hive if you look close. The corruptied hive worm is what flys out and attacks you. Very cool. The voice sort of sounds like Maya Sudaresh.
It also makes sense since Rhulk was experimenting with hive and scorn.
Fallen with a Hive worm? Or *SCORN* with a Hive worm?
Rhulk’s research bore some horrible fruit it seems.
Yeah, I found the body shape similar to an acolyte and of course the flying worn, but now I see that the Husks have a similar tecnique from the Fallen Marauders!
Reminds me of how the Caretaker in Vow was a scorn implanted with a worm larva, supposedly.
Have we heard Maya Sundaresh before? We've heard Chioma Esi, in her Neomuna audiologs, but I don't recall us hearing from Maya.
Worth noting the nomenclature of ‘Prismatic’?
Shining light through a prism (pyramid ship) at the correct angle gives the full spectrum of visible light. (i.e. all the subclasses)
That is actually amazing to have figured out! I used to wonder why they chose that name over anything else, but now I don't. And I want to thank you for that.
the speed of light < Byf when he finally sees good content
The new voice has ghost sound effects. I think it’s the travel taking though our ghost personally.
It could be also cayde’s ghost as he is a guide.
it reminds me of the time we heard the traveller so i think it's highly likely that the voice is the traveller
@@h13n12 When did that happen again? I forgor
@@jackb3822 the visions of light mission from d2y2, it just sound more high pitched there.
Could be Sagira with a new voice actress.
It sounds like Ikora
I want to know how prismatic works with the Tessalation 👀
And the bombardiers, chromatic fire, harmonic siphon, etc
Ohhhhh damn didn't even consider that! Excited to see what they do!
They ought to make some (secret?) synergy with the two. Like necrotics and weapons of sorrow.
Solid guess? Matches grenade/super ability element
Id imagine the catalyst would allow it to synergize with every element you have on
I LOVE the concept of just going all-out, hog-wild, who-gives-an-eff-if-it's-broken for the final expansion. Can't wait to just go nuts with prismatic. And you are right Byf, this is ssoooo much more than just a new red subclass.
I know it's a very minor detail, but I do really appreciate when Bungie does minor enemy faciton reskins, like with the purple colored Scorn in Witch Queen or the orange tinted Taken in Final Shape (and the many other minor factions like the Sol Divisive or Hidden Brood). Most people might roll there eyes, but I see it as an effort to show an important story difference between these subsets of factions.
The purple Scorn represent a cultural divide in the Scorn as a whole, between the mindless husks of the Witness and Fikrul's loyal followers with a bit more of a soul remaining. And now we have these orange Taken which I presume represents not necessarily a divide in the Taken, but instead it's almost as if this is the Witness flexing its special abilities, like its saying "You Hive gods thought you could Take, no THIS is how you TAKE!"
Obviously much like the Scorn there likely isn't a gameplay difference, but just seeing a legion of enemy dawning a certain color goes a long way to tell you a lot about what's going on.
I’ve always appreciated this fact too. Especially back in D1. The way I always thought of it was like how different factions of the US military have different colored uniforms depending on whether you were Army, Air Force, or Marine.
It was more noticeable in D1, but yes it’s appreciated
This never should have left in D2 Y1. I dont care if there were lore reasons for it. Every fallen being purple and every cabal being red really made everything feel so much more boring imo. Im really happy they've been walking it back since forsaken
Nah i don't think so, with the existance of strand and Maya experiments, i think the Scorn are a reflection of their Master/Main mind, the void that is the witness Marks the mechanic efficency of the purple Scorn and Fikrul and the tribalist but much weaker Orange Scorn
I also noticed that the Taken have more orange “eyes” here - the same hue as the facial lights on the Dread.
Bat with a gun? No, no....Bat with the gat? Yes.
Gat with a bat
@@WeaponsComplexBungie proposing the Monte Carlo catalyst:
Bat with the gyatt from the rizzler
bat wit dat gat
Perhaps Ulan-Tan is finally vindicated, by the balance of Light and Dark in "Transcendence"???
No one talks about Ulan-Tan😢 I still fly his ship.
Some where, probably inside the Traveler with other dead Guardian legends, Toland may meet the Vanguard and say: “I wanna hear you say it”.
The Vanguard: “You were righ-“.
Ulan: “A little louder, I think you were saying ULAN WAS RIGHT”?!
yea definitlely pulling out that armor set for Final Shape
We’re so back
We're so back
We're so back
We're so back!
We're so back
We're so back
Bungie on life support and then going super saiyan to carry the next few years
Speedrunners are gonna have a field day combining well skate with blink at the same time
Well/Shatter skate plus blink plus heat rises plus strand grapple? And with the class item, multiple movement exotics in one? So many possibilities I wonder where they draw the line
Hunters using Grapple Grenades, Shatterdive, Ascension, and High Jump after using Eager Edge to yeet themselves forward:
Feels so good to be excited about Destiny again, especially after such a rocky year.
I have taken a long break from destiny and all contents getting back into it today and I am so happy to hear your intro again
Duuuuude! Rift Void Child + NTTE Bullet Buddy + Getaway Artist Arc Soul = PROFIT!!
You could run the new Hellion instead of Arc Soul if you wanted. Or the other way around. Lots of options.
The Walking Orphanage build.
The Angelina jolie/Brad Pitt build
Hold up... you could actually run 4 buddies at the same time! Getaway Artists only require having an Arc grenade equipped, and then for your other two aspects you'd run Void Child and Hellion. Omg this is hilarious.
You forgot bleakwatcher turrets.
I really really really like this subclass mixing feature. It now feels like every exotic is no longer locked behind a subclass, just locked behind a skill or super.
My prediction for the idea Byf posits at 6:44 is that the reason this voice sounds distorted is because it’s the Gardener speaking to us through our Ghost, like the Witness did in Shadowkeep and Beyond Light (however, using its own voice instead of modifying our Ghost’s). Very exciting stuff from a lore perspective!
Warlocks walking into the Traveler to kick the Witness' ass with Solar, Arc, and Void Souls: *Patrick Bateman walking meme*
Right 🤣🤣🤣
Yuck
brainrot
Titans entering like jotaro vs dio
im gonna touch you lil bro
I've been Helldiving for the past month and a half, and gotta say I think it's time to get back to some Destiny 2!!!
The symbols on the 'faces' of the dread. That seems to be the Symbol next to the three Precursors on that wall i the video about them broken up, which means that each part of that overall symbol has meanings when broken down, and collectively read.
Could you elaborate on this? Which video is this exactly?
Something I didn’t notice while watching the gameplay reveal. They completely redesigned the hud! It looks like weapon buffs live underneath the abilities bar while subclass specific buffs are where they have always been.
It all looks so clean! I’m getting to the point where I can’t deny it and feel the need to preorder which is crazy! I think the last time I felt that was Taken King.
Looking forward to hopping into Into the Light now but really going to find it hard not to tell my buddy. Not going to but gods does it feel like they took the extra time and work in something truly revolutionary for Destiny.
They said long ago that the HUD was getting redesigned to better account for our buffs. I'm talking like before season of the witch, 7-ish months ago. And now we know why lol. Subclass buffs on left, cool downs on right, and weapon buffs in the bottom left. Quite intuitive.
we have seen light and dark together in one being, but it didnt go well.
Nezarec in Root of nightmares had a twisted form of the two at the same time and it caused him nothing but agonizing pain
I think the guardians are the only ones who can use both at the same time, and I think the only way is by passing into the pale heart and learning
the lore is gonna go so hard dawg I cant wait
I think he would disagree he was enjoying himself trying to kill the fireteam
@@windmaster9 he was enjoying it until we activated damage phase, causing him agonizing pain
Where are you getting this information?
@@jackpotter3887 lore, evidence from the raid
Bungie is going all in on this expansion. We shall Witness.
Chill. We don't even know how much content we're getting yet. We know 1 raid, 1 strike, 1 lost sector so far.
@@chrisborges7344dungeons
i was pumped and finally have some hope for destiny again.
Hope for the future?
@@cerealkiller1024 Hope for the franchise
Wow, started at 2x for no reason and just thought you were rushing your intro to get into it XD
I was hoping that a hybrid style thing for destiny would end up being class hybrids. But prismatic is easier design and lore wise to do and looks pretty alright
With the new exotics you can mix different class exotics together. Although being a Warlock who can shoulder charge like felwinter sounds cool
Lord Felwinter actually did shoulder charge a warlord to near death while being a warlock himself. Think Lady Jolder taught him that.That's probably the next step in the evolution of class abilities.
@@leeroy2752 honestly I just want to do gunslinger stuff as a warlock
It's possible, if the rumors that Bungie is working on a Destiny 3 are true, that this could be their way of testing future "classless" gameplay
@@Fir7shadow I've heard that spoken about as well, that in d3 there will be no more Hunters, Warlocks or titans
The crystal that was in the Sludge in the EDZ alluded to Prismatic years ago.
WE are the Final Shape!!!!
Like, THIS was our Destiny.
Now it all makes sense 😳🤯
When Byf uploads within 3 hours of a reveal of some kind, you know it's gonna be good o7
BTW Byf, The Witness cinematic is now in the Timeline section of the director. Not sure if its just been added with Into The Light but its on the far left of the timeline node. Just below the Red War
Yeah, that's been in there since Season of the Witch, I believe.
Could that mystery voice be the precursor who got away and helps us to beat the witness.
maybe
To quote my GM for DnD when a player dies. "Their story is coming to a close....But yours is just beginning."
To say we are so back is the greatest understatement of all time
That voice comes from either a representation of the traveler, the gardener, OR most likely, the one precursor who escaped the merging of the witness. I am betting that’s the entity speaking, the last of the precursors.
I always hoped and thought the “Final Shape” should be a mixing of light & dark, just makes sense….and it looks awesome!
The voice is more then likely Sundance, female voice, modulation that sounds like a ghost voice, and it's very likely she will be there if Cayde is
The prismatic gear appears to be philosophically themed. Stoicism/solipsism etc, those are philosophical themes. Makes sense as we are having a philosophical fight with the witness.
They gotta explain how The Witness has Strand, let alone all these Dread. (I think they’re golems for the Pyramid Spirits to inhabit)
The dread are easy to explain.
Remember how Rhulk was experimenting with the hive worms and the scorn? The dread are the result of that (most likely).
They've slowly shown us the process through the years.
First with Rhulk and his experiments, then with the Tormentors, made in the image of Nezarec and how he was constructed/reconstructed.
Now we have all the finalised results of all those experiments.
-Tormentors (based on Nezarec)
-Subjugators (based on Rhulk)
-Weavers (based on Yirix and the traitor Psions)
-Bats with guns (based on the experiments of Rhulk to fuse hive worms with scorn)
@@voltus20 I get the Husks but I don’t think Tormentors are based off Nezarec. Nezarec was more human looking and small in cutscenes, not to mention he was only a head until Final Root of Nightmares encounter and we’ve fought Tormentors before the Raid.
Also, I just want to know what they are. Are they made artificially or are they living things? Stuff like that.
@@ringomandingo1015dude the giga boss versions of tormenters are literally called imprints of nezarec.
@@ringomandingo1015he was also never in a cutscene so I don’t know where you got that from
@@flashback4019 Season of Plunder cutscene, Mithrax’s mom cuts into Nezarec’s corpse.
Imprints of Nezarec are names of only two of em, the rest are called Cavuum of Nezarec (found in the Raid) which is latin for hole, usually a name for a brain condition. “Hole of Nezarec” doesn’t make the same idea of what’s going on with Tormentors.
Solar gets countered by Stasis, Void gets countered by Strand, Arc gets countered by what?
The idea of combining Subclasses is good? but idk man i have weird feeling abt it. sure its supposed to be lore accurate Guardians but i rather have Light Subclasses combined... same for Dark Subclasses and the 3rd should counter Arc which could be Resonance - Rhulk's Darkness abilities from the Pyramid/Witness.
Theres no way the first time we hear the traveler speak to us is a raspy voice over a radio
I’m sure we will get an in person introduction to whoever this is. Remember that clip is taken probably halfway through the expansion. Plus how else would they talk to us besides through our mind or our ghost
@@archimedes5158 i agree, but I doubt the highly anticipated voice of the traveler would be revealed as a one off random low quality quote like that
Keep in mind, the Traveler is severely weakened due to the Witness’ meddling, that might be a reason it sounds like crap.
I'm happy that we finally get to see the darkness race that's been teased since D1
LORE ACCURATE GUARDIANS! FINALLY!!
We really bullied Bungie into making the best Destiny content they've ever created, huh? I mean damn...
The simple fact that they're embracing the lore and letting us be how the Guardians always were in the lore is absolutely MENTAL. I mean, we can now become what the Guardians always were in the lore, being able to mix Light abilities, but now on top of that, we are able to mix DARK abilities? And this power COMES FROM THE GARDENER HERSELF?
I never ever thought we'd get to this point in the story where we'd be doing so many things in game that we've only ever heard about in the LORE. WHAT IS HAPPENING???
I think we called out the management for the damage they were causing the game, and now they’re panicking so they let the devs have creative freedom in order to try and save their own skin.
@@kogden8110 Alright negative nancy...no one asked.
@@RespiteofChampions no no he’s got a point, I respect the honesty but if that’s what it takes to get good content then I’m happy it happened
@@alangoatcher4227 No no he doesn't at all. 0 point in fact. All he's doing is spewing false hateful words for no reason other than to hate. We mere mortals never "called out management" enough for any one of them to be "panicking" over what we did. Bungie saw our feedback over what had happened, and delayed the release because they wanted to work harder to release THIS masterpiece for us. And that's the truth of the matter.
This reveal stream made me so hyped up for the game again lol and my head is like overloading already thinking about the combinations I want to do in terms of mixing abilities, and the exotic class item :D
Wonder if intellect will help the transcendence bar fill quick
Intellect stat going to be viable again?
@@the_maker1841 hope so 😭
Wild to think before all the drama happen we were only going to get one new enemy type
One new enemy type, one new super per class, $60 please.
The grim remind me of the buggers/yanme'e from halo
after seeing that in the stream oh boy this is gonna insane the fact the guardians are now wielding the ultimate power of light and dark combined, I think with this kind of power Guardians have officially become Legend
Keep in mind that you owning Beyond Light and Lightfall will be a requirement if you want to use this new subclass to its full potential. This means it will be locked behind 3 paywalls if you do not have any of the DLC’s and are interested in having the full experience.
they'll make a catch up sale or legacy pack almost certainly. Confusing as before
I think that might be Cayde's ghost. Where as her and Cayde are summoned by the Gardener as a sort of spiritual guide both literally and figuratively through the Pale Heart
I guess we've reached the end of the main story arc at this point, just wanted to say thank you for being a mainstay of my regular viewing for the past 10 years (has it really been 10 years???)
There have been ups & downs over the years, a result of which is that I'm unlikely to buy TFS until quite some time after release, but I'll be watching your content all the same to fill the void created by life, responsibilities and general dissatisfaction with gameplay. The story is so rich and well-crafted, and you've been providing me that when I've not been able to play.
Thanks so much for all the work you've put in over the years. It's been greatly appreciated by many
CANNOT BE MORE STOKED
*Sigh* Let me go and catch up on all the lore since Season of the Witch....thanks Byf for Chronicling things while we were all away.
I will say...I am cautious. The changes they are showing looks amazing...but Lightfall looked amazing as well. We will see if Bungie can win back the trust and turn the tide for sure.
@@b_rant_gaming8835
While I wholly agree that Lightfall and Season of Defiance stories were trash, the gameplay was genuinely fun.
one of the things ill miss most in destiny is BYF and his great videos and the soothing voice
Taox is the unidentified voice, Otzot is the campaign final boss, calling it now.
hi early birds
Hi
Not sure if already mentioned but that first scene with prismatic reminds me of the tutorial fight that eases you into a subclass since it has those fill-your-super-to-full patches
its great to be excited for more byf and D2 lore again. Excited for the future content and where the story might take us.
6:08 At first, I thought it was Eido speaking through a terminal. But then its distorted sound reminded me a bit more of a mechanical being (maybe recalling to the traveler’s shell design?)
The unknown voice around the middle of the video it sounds like a very badly wounded ikora talking to you though a radio
I also find interesting that in the livestream they let it slip a couple of seconds a couple of times but also in the trailer it looks like we fight the Lucent Brood....which is Savathuns crew and thus not under the Witness control.. unless it is. So she's either coming in with us or is double crossing again. That'll be an exciting story line.
Perfect video length 👌
something I only just noticed and that I don't see anybody talking about, you can see the reworked buff UI in the gameplay sections, cascade point ready above the super bar and new icons for stuff like radient, seperate from what look like weapon/ability buffs like knockout and facet of protection. looks pretty nice though I hope the 4 buff limit is finally changed
I feel like the new enemy type are usual enemies converted by the witness: the psyons as officially stated are Weaver and Attendants, then the Husks are hive accolytes (the thing that comes out of them is theyr worm), the Grimms might be war beasts (this are the ones that look least like their counterpart) while the subjugators might be some fallen unit. This theory would also connect to (for what I remember) the Tormentors also being modified psyons
Such a great video man! Thanks so much !
The voice was that other precursor the witness is searching, hiding inside the traveler. It's also the woman in white from early game art from D1.
So I have a question how many situations do you think will happen of people falling off ledges after using transcendence once final shape comes out?
I May have missed a video, but did you ever do an examination of the paintings at the end of “No Time Left” in Lightfall? It looks like it shows the witness’ race holding ghosts?
6:08 I just assumed that was Ikora talking over a radio of some sort
I heard several people predict Prismatic months ago, and while I kinda thought they were huffing copium I thought it was an awesome idea and it's something I've wanted almost since I started playing last August. Needless to say, I'm incredibly hyped and already trying to figure out the best possible combinations for my playstyle
I believe it's the traveler, maybe the lady from the cut opening in d1 she might be the gardener, I want mommy traveler so bad and I want her to fight the witness in an epic cutscene all anime smashing and destroying things, doing things beyond what we could ever imagine in some crazy duel.
most excellent video length
6:35
I think the voice is Eido
Byf love your content man and it's an honor to be a guardian alongside you 🤝
I wonder if tesselation is going to have some unique interaction with prismatic, also that trace that’s supposed to have the power of the traveler imbued in it may even have some tricks you can only pull off with prismatic
love how the video is 13:37 long, good old times xD
Warlocks getting a massive W with the prismatic subclass
Byf, if you look at the gameplay trailer. The shot shows cayde shooting something and in the back you can see what appears to he Zavala limping. This appears to be him either ghostless or lightless as GUARDIANS DONT LIMP. He’s also being assisted by someone. You mind checking this out?
Wow BYF I never thought that I would be speechless by one of destiny videos but Wow
I really want it from here to finally focus and dive into the vex from which we understand little of
the voice at 6:05 sounds a lot like Eido but through radio which would make sense with her character to call us that
I’m super excited for prismatic. It almost feels like an amalgamation of the skills we mastered and a refinement of everyone’s own unique play style along the way through the saga. The builds that come out, the possibilities seem insane. Just wonder if they’re power scaling the activities too so it requires creative build creating to even survive the fight against the witness.
With tears in my eyes I got to say THANK YOU! thank you for saving the final chapter of this amazing game!!❤️
What is wild is the new brave decals on the brave green ns look like byfs logo ❤
Husks giving me Splicer vibes with the seeking explosive upon death
Even though he’s gone, Mtashed’s influence still remains
6:25 I think it sounded a lot like lakshm/maya sunderish. We got an Ishtar logo after the wish keeper mission maybe she found a way to get into the traveler with us
I remember commenting about 2 years ago saying: what stops us from merging subclasses? we saw Ikora do something similar.
You missed the vex and scorn. They were in the game gameplay in the steam too.
I think the Mystery Voice is actually a deceased Guardian. I think we merge with her Light in an event that contrasts with the Witness's own genesis. That's howv we create the synergy between Light and Dark.
For the voice talking about our powers it has to be someone in the lord tied closely to the traveller. Or it’s a brand new character that is truly the voice of the traveller. I think it’s gotta be some obscure character that’s been close to the traveller and is teaching us how to use all the new power.
6:17 this seems to me to very obviously be either Ikora or Eido, but I could be mistaken since it sounds like both of them ngl