Useless and stupid - the Boosey and Co Bugle
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- Опубликовано: 29 май 2016
- This bugle was made by Boosey and Co. Frankly, I expected better. Let me know what you think of it...
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I was a bugler with the Australian military for about 5 years.
You don't play a bugle.
You fight them.
Hi Terry- what type do they play please? Could you recommend a bugle the same as the Australian Army? I’m looking to learn and don’t want to buy something rubbish. Thanks.
You don't play a bugle, you BLOW it!
Terry O'Brien good luck fighting the majority of the world
That was a very Australian thing to say
My trumpets double as bugles. That is, I play all bugle calls on the trumpet.
It was made...in the past
I totally lost it when he said that!! 😂
"The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the...." LOL I CAN'T
Lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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I thought it was made in the future...
"This tape, unlike me, is one-tenth of a millimeter thick."
-Trent Hamilton, 2016
"I'm gay"
-IDubbbzTV, idk
"I am simply one hell of a Butler."
Sebastion, 2008
2:03 - trent Hamilton 2016
i started to read this and then i heard him say it
Yeowch
You are very engaging. You even warned us with the title "Useless and stupid", and yet you held my attention for over 10 minutes. That's talent.
Thank you :)
naked,
TheAbfromNJ ii
I agree. He would be a fine teacher I think. Although telecommunications works too :P
I'm close to woodbridge!
Lost my sh*t when you said "It was made.. um... um.. in the past"
What? I had an instrument that was made in the _future,_ they're quite common. I think it's perfectly reasonable to point that out.
+Peter LeRoy “Apl 527097” Barnes i seem to have a trombone from the pressent
That was funny. Technically being Boosey it was made prior to 1930 when Boosey became Boosey and Hawkes.
"But then I noticed something about the physical cha- uh, about the, the, the, uh... the, the, the...
Come to me words, words..."
~Trent Hamilton, 2016
"It was made, um, um... in the past"
my sides
Me presenting somthing in class
Lol bass clarinet
From what I remember, the longer less-coiled "bugles" are in fact "Cavalry Trumpets".
Bugles have a conical bore, trumpets have a parallell bore.
"It was made...um....um, in the past."
Quote of the year 2016
I completely lost it at 5:42. Good stuff man 😂
One Entertainment how did he keep his face so straight?!?!?😂😂
I got a very similar cavalry bugle made by Raison Band Co. about 6 or 7 years ago, cost about $40 new. It's a piece of junk, said right on the site when I bought it that the mouthpiece might not fit and there may be significant manufacturing errors, but it's playable.
The nice thing about these bugles is you don't care if you ding them up. I've hiked mine up a large mountain and bugled at the summit until people got mad.
This is not a real british army bugle, it is a replica sold as a fake antique , the mouthpiece is a give away, if you buy a real army type bugle from a music shop it will have a proper mouthpiece. Made in china or india.
an American Bugle is the best.
Mark Thompson it’s a boosey and co bugle, as in boosey and hawkes? The bugle was likely made in London a long time ago.
Yes, probably india, unplayable junk
@@wateredmilk6089 Lol no
Most bugles with the name Boosey &co on them are in fact cheap instruments made in India. They were mainly designed for the ornamental market. They also made clarinets saxes and pocket cornets all which didn’t play properly.
drill a hole in the mouthpiece
not that easy
something about the the the the words come on
"Useless and stupid" reminds me of my existence...
Just your average viewer nah, you’re just average.
Don't say that about yourself God loves you
If you feel useless remember warframe has a sprint button
U ok bro?
Get you an instrument whose first harmonic is a minor sixth 😂
You think that's bad? I put a trumpet mouthpiece in one end of a metal tube and a harmon mute stem in the other end to make a miniature bell. It only had the odd harmonics! It went C, G, E, B-flat, D, F-half-sharp, etc.
In America it's Memorial Day today and I played taps for my town's ceremony. What a coincidence that you uploaded a bugle video on the same day.
There's something about your relaxed demeanor that makes these videos so interesting. People are prone to take music too seriously, but it's all about having fun in the end (while learning new stuff and experimenting of course)
The bugle isn't stupid after all....it performed it's duty....made a sound! LMBO
Now you have brought back some memories of my school days. I used to play this in a school band. We were not allowed to use any mouthpiece other than the one that came with it.
guys I found a way to play high note its all about the eyebrows he raises them as he goes higher
It's kinda like an instinct. I've found myself doing it alot when playing high or playing a part I know I am bound to mess up on. I'm pretty sure it's caused by the tension of the moment rather than being a way of playing higher.
It’s the magical spell to go *HIIIIGH*
Unfortunately, my old band director told me it was "the best way" to get high notes on the trumpet... You can see how trumpet playing turned out for us.
You have inspired me to strive to be the best trumpeter in my band. I just wanted to say thanks. You're awesome! I also really liked The Slavische Fantasie song. I am disappointed that you don't have trillions of subscribers. Keep up the good work!
My high school band has around 4 of these. Didn't even know it was an instrument, we use them as christmas ornaments!
“The, thee, thee, thee, thee. Words come to me.”
I’m making swedish style bugles (basically a valveless german flugelhorn with a very ice cream come-looking bell) at work for the swedish military, and once I played around with a similar bugle as in the video and different mouthpieces.
My takeaway from that excercise was that german shanked flugelhorn mouthpieces worked best with that kind of bugle. They have the pros of the both tenor horn mpc and the pros of the trumpet mpc as showed in the video.
"let me jam that in a little bit harder"
As a trumpet player, I love watching your videos! Especially when you review not so good instruments.
i have only been playing the bugle horn for 3 weeks and am struggling to even play a rythym on it, my bugle horn looks like the one used in this video..
i love watching your videos and will watch many more... keep up the amazing work Trent
sending love from the UK
Well my Boosey from 1915 is the Stradivarius of bugles. Sweet, stable, perfect in every way. Though it does need an extension-pipe to get it down to Bb. And it sounds best with a Denis Wick 4X trumpet mouthpiece.
2:07 That always works
I was given a similar bugle. A friend bought it at a garage sale to use as a noisemaker on his boat but after a few attempts failed to make any noise out of it that was at all reminiscent of a brass instrument or with any volume
I was able to do a little better and was immediately given it, no takebacks!
At first I thought he just had chops and tried to practice a little since it had been a couple decades since I had picked up a brass instrument. I got to about the proficiency you had with the weird stock mouthpiece and figured maybe I needed a real one to get any further.
This one is likely an Indian knockoff since it has no markings on it at all. Nothing whatsoever and has even worse machining on it than the "3 worst instruments" you reviewed in another video. I probably have Chlamydia and Herpes now from this horribe brass-shaped object from India, as you talked about in a different video.
But it has sparked an interest to find a cheap trumpet or cornet in B-flat and relearn to play while living on a boat full time. A very cheap used band instrument or maybe one of the many plastic trumpets out there if it is cheap would be the only sane choices since the harsh environment of small sea,-going sailboat will destroy just about anything. Maybe a cheap soprano bugle but I never actually ever see those cheap for some reason. I was a baritone bugle player in a drum corps back the 80's as well as trombone, baritone/euphonium. I played a little trumpet for pep band sometimes.
My cheap useless bugle is developing some of the most interesting patina, or maybe that is just a massive colony of Chlamydia. But I can at least make some noise with it.
That's an Indian made copy of the standard British Army bugle, they are often known as a Gunga Din bugle. They are made for the export market and often have army regiment badges on them. Pretty much for decorative purposes only!
Brass is a mixture of Copper and Zinc, I believe. Because you said it was composed of Brass and Copper, I'm assuming it has a MUCH higher Copper to Zinc ratio. Or I may be wrong and it has parts of pure Copper. I have never played a bugle before, so nonetheless, an excellent video.
Most of the instrument here appears to be pure copper. Only the fittings are brass - you can identify the two different metals by the different colour scheme.
Trent Hamilton hello
Copper will indeed make your hands smell weird.
I don't know about other instruments, but the main tubing is copper, ferruled together with Brass. The end bell is copper inside and embellished with Brass outside. Four inches of the Lead-pipe and the Mouthpiece is all one piece of Brass. It's all soldered together. You can't remove the mouthpiece. He wasn't speaking of the chemical make-up of the metal...he was saying that part of the tubing was Copper, put together with ferrules of Brass.
My parents bought me the same instrument because they saw it used in a military ceremony on Stargate SG-1. I had much the same issues but they refused to listen until I pointed out the Bugle player on the show wasn't moving his lips. 😂
A bugle is not a musical instrument. It's a signal instrument. It's a whistle that is louder and with a few notes.
I am waiting for delivery of my first bugle. I have never ever played one and look forward to the challenge. Your video is so very helpful and so well done. Thank you! Nova Scotia get ready, I will be playing this instrument soon!
The Getzen "American Field Trumpet", which is a bugle, is fantastic. Great intonation, I use my trumpet mouthpiece. It even has spit valves, known as water keys in the metric world.
Got one of those for Christmas when I was a kid. Was apparently from my Grandmother's attic but it got me into playing brass!
I think i saw this bugle on amazon and i almost bought it, thank god i didnt
Someone gave me one... Now I realise it's because they couldn't find any other way of getting rid of it. I guess I got sucked in, then.
Bugles were made during the times of the Roman empire to direct infantry, o became especially popular during the 1700's-Modern times. The Bugle was a "Loud and proud" instrument and was easily heard and recognized by a well-trained soldier fighting for Royalty during the time. My opinion of the instrument is that is is rather nice, it is a tradition to use in our Military from the war of Independence up to instructing the Military camps today. The sound of it is powerful and recognizable which is what I like about it. Enough about that, this mighty instrument of the men who served in Valley Forge to the Men who gallantly fought in Gettysburg (Neutral Comment, it has been a great peice of Militaria not only to us but also to European countries. These instruments signaled the nearing Victory or closing defeat to any Army that has ever served. Though a little hard to play at first, it is one of those instruments you can learn to play in a week, and learn to conduct men with it in a 5-6 weeks.
That's the kind of bugle you want to hot-glue into a Christmas wreath.
2:03 Take a shot every time he says “the”
Couple of suggestions
Difference between a bugle and a trumpet...........you seem to confuse them
Get an actual bugle, not and Indian knock off......which is in fact just an ornament not a musical instrument.
thank you, i was going to buy this
Yizhar Amir 😹
I don't play the trumpet or any brass instrument. Why do I keep watching this channel? You might try taps. I would think that should be easy. I don't know.
It's reveille not revelry or anything else. Thanks for watching my videos!
I play bugel and taps is super hard
Austin Reid The Building Boss Really? Taps was the first thing I learned
+Austin Reid The Building Boss they make this electronic thing you put in the bell that plays for you. makes it real easy to cheat if you can't play this simple tune.
Paul TheSkeptic Sane Here
Hearing this bugle played with the out of tune mouthpiece made me think of Marvin the Martian.
It's very useful. My mother used to pretend to Play Reveille to get us kids up for school. 6:00 am.
"It's time to get up
It's time to get up
It's time to get up
In the morning "
“It was made in the past”-Trent Hamilton 2016
I still have my father inlaw's bugle that he had that was his fathers with a date that say's 1-18-16 Phila. Depot
I purchased one years ago and handed it to my son who (At the Time) was First trumpet in our School Marching Band. We took it to a few Reenactments at the time using a Trumpet Mouth piece which seemed to work better, (He blew signals which made those few events seem more real) however, in the end, I used it as a "Hall Pass" in my class at school. SOme student went home with it.
I was given one of those puppies a few years back. Had a hairline crack in one of the bends which I had patched at a local music store. With a bit of practice, I was able to get a pretty decent tone (even with that funky mouthpiece). I can play most of the Boy Scout bugle calls with ease!
Never thought of trying different mouthpieces, though. Being a trombone player, I don't have trumpet mouthpieces around the house and I never thought of trying a trombone mouthpiece - until now. Just found that a small bore tenor trombone mouthpiece actually fits it quite well. It wedges in firmly about a quarter inch and actually produces quite a rich tone. My blue Pbone mouthpiece fits in the best. :-)
He is the Jeremy Clarkson of brass instruments
it was made in the past lol
Seems clear to me that bugle was made "in the past" of the last decade, probably in India. Boosey is a popular counterfeit name, perhaps since the company no longer exists (Boosey and Hawkes is the successor).
With reveille at the end, I usually let the articulation of the instrument when you are going down after the c-g-hc. It makes it so much easier to play and sounds much better.
"Useless and stupid" already laughing before I even watch the video
A physically Smaller horn is always more difficult to play; you're comparing APPLES with ORANGES, here. (BTW-those last two mouthpieces sounded the best.) As you pointed out, this is a military=style bugle. I could not see if it had a slide: If so, a little adjustment there might help.
In the end, the Important Thing is; that the Troops (Military or Boy Scouts) Recognized the call.
I’m a military bugler, we use them to tell soldiers when there food is ready when to fall in when there’s going to be a parade, even for ceremonial purposes like last post. You struggle to get 5 notes so to me that shows you haven’t given the bugle a chance and decided to tarnish it bc you can’t play it.
“Very unusual cap” *pulls out my Shooting Stars Conn trumpet* lucky for you, mine has no round parts and looks like it belongs to a French horn, when it doesn’t. It makes my lip hurt but I got used to it. Can’t wait to get a better trumpet after I save up for one.
I have a bugle just like that, although the chain broke on mine. Its a different brand but its the exact same style of bugle. And mine plays in tune.
I have a similar bugle. The provided mouthpiece is horrible. Thank you for the valiant demonstration.
A very entertaining but slightly dark video, brilliant sir !!!!!!
I cannot remember hearing military bugle calls that contain any notes I would call high in pitch. That is not what a bugle is about. More importantly, the looks on your face after you tried the illsuited mouthpieces were priceless.
To my knowledge, most of the Boosey and co bugles are replicas here in the UK however, it should also be noted that way back when bugles made for the military weren't made to really have much musical value, especially booseys, we've always been told that we have to use a 'ceremonial bugle' as opposed to a 'field bugle'. Something comes to mind about Boosey and Hawkes making the 400 series bugle for ceremonial bugling, when bugles became less used as signalling tools.
Loving the videos though!
I've been a bugler for 5 years, you can't beat spending some money (siilver plated and an individual mouthpiece, slide and actual bugle). I had to change my mouth piece to a shallow cup, wide bore to improve the tone. Bugles are quality, but you just need a decent one!
josh orr uhm... enything can be "quality" if you pay for it. (it's in quotes because I tried using it the same way you did, and I think I understood what you meant but it definitely was only vaguely English )
Daniel Blair sorry pal. I mean it in the sence of 'great', 'brilliant' ect...
WHAT??? Just a week ago my parents saw one of these in an antique store for $3 and picked it up for fun since I play brass. What a coincidence!!!
Apparently these are fake replicas, and you can tell because of the strange mouthpiece.
I have my great grandfather’s that he used in the first war. It plays in B-natural, not Bb, the flat-rimmed mouthpiece seems to be designed to hurt you and no other mouthpiece fits just right. Oh, and it’s more resistant than anything I’ve ever played, including a ram’s horn.
I have an identical bugle on my shelving unit in my office. It was my grandfathers. I can't see any stamps on it, probably polished away. I would love to learn to play this instrument, it would be a great way to call my horses; they currently respond to whistling, but this isn't loud enough on the new +300ha farm I now stay on.
I also have one of these bugles, which I think I got for free or really cheap at a rummage sale. Like you, I don't use it for anything serious. Love your vids!
Bravo ... I love your collection and presentaions. I also have a Schilke A4A mouthpiece, however I've reurned to my "bored out" C3 (Bach). Your origingal bugle mouth piece cup reminds me of a flugle cup, which fits with the conicle bore. If you try that, you'll probably have to tape that also? "Anyways" (
Looks like it is a cheap Pakistani or Indian copy of a real Boosey & Hawkes Bb Bugle. If I used that my old RSM would have had me shot !! :-)
I must agree--the "Boosey and Co." would have made me wonder who actually made it--like the time i mistook "Selman" for "Selmer". That bass trumpet was the worst brass horn I've ever owned.
Boosey and Co later became Boosey and Hawkes
I did not know that. I have just learned something new. :)
Hmmmm.....I have a cheap Indian Bb Bugle that has the exact same mouthpiece as yours does Trent, and mine is un-playable no matter what mouthpiece I use in it.
True. Probably an Indian copy
You look funny when you hit the high notes.
Since retiring from The CAF (IntOp), Ive been teaching myself how to play the bugle and ohhh let me tell yea..."thought" theres something F**king!! wrong with F**king!! thing"..there was ..it was at the very end of the mouthpiece ;) ;)...During my research " The Canadian Cavalry Corp" the "Bugle" was used, and those who played them where not a "Bugler" the WWI CCC Standing Order/s referenced them to as a "Trumpter/s". I don't know what the other CWC called them but that's a little part of a history we should NEVER FORGET!!!
I have an unbranded version of the same thing. The horrid unplated brass MP went into the recycle bin, and was replaced with a cheap Chinese trumpet MP. Playablity improved slightly - but I've been told my entire musical career to NEVER play on an unplated brass MP. Reasons vary, but include lead concerns as well as microbe worries. In any event, mine's now a wall hanger - Goddess only knows where it came from originally. Solder joints leak too!
Love the title, “Useless and Stupid”.
Every review/reaction video title should be this succinct and hottest..
I bought one that looks pretty much the same, also in D-flat, including with the useless mouthpiece, except with a "CSA" stamped logo, at a yard sale for $20 US. I have a little fun with it from time to time, but I agree wholeheartedly with the video title.
Have you encountered a piston rotor bugle yet? Used by American Drum and Bugle Corps. from the 50's 60's 70's and early 80's???
Interesting. My grandfather had one of these that he got at an antique store. The owner said he would give my grandfather a discount if he could play it. He could, so he got the discount. I think my brother may have it now.
I purchased bugle and thought exactly as you did. Thought I got ripped-off. I brought the bugle to my teacher as joke, thinking it was so awful and ready to laugh even at the thought of him playing out of tune. Without even playing a test note he played Last Post and sounded so beautiful. He looked at the bugle and said it was of high quality and that tuning is always an issues with these types of bugles and have to hear the intervals in your head before you play them. Once I heard him play it so beautifully, I knew it was me and not the bugle. So, I have been practicing with the bugle every day and would be willing to play it on Remembrance Day. All this being said, to be fair to your review, it is work to nail those intervals so the bugle has top part of your regular practice schedule. Since Remembrance Day is a high stress performance, I would rather play a modern tuneable bugle.
do you have a cavalry bugle about that size that you do recommend? i have a few rexcraft bsa bugles but would love to find a cavalry style bugle that plays and sounds nice, but all reviews i find are crap on these.
love this. keep it up.
What type of bugle would you recommend to
a beginner? (Something not to expensive)
I actually saw a new horn very similar to this one last summer at the gift shop at Fort McHenry near Baltimore, MD. Fort McHenry, of course, is the sight where Francis Scott Key penned the words to The Star Spangled Banner in 1814.
I'm guessing this was a replica of the military bugles used in that era (late 1700s - early 1800s). If I remember correctly, the price was around $60. It caught my eye as I have one at home as mentioned in my previous post. :-)
2:04 thE tHe tHE, ThE ThE
XD
Stupid question but can you play anything on a bugle. For instance i want to learn but im wondering if i got bored with military calls, could I play say Tijuana taxi
Hi Trent and your subscribers, can you help me out? i was at my friends house today and he asked me to look into a bugle he found on his property. He dug it up in his farm paddock at the foot of Mount Taupiri, Waikato about 40 years ago. It looks exactly like yours in this video but has no mouth piece. I guess it could be made by Boosey and Co but it has no markings that I can find. It is in very good condition but the copper has been rubbed off in some areas and it appears to actually be brass under the copper where it has rubbed.
We would be very interested to know more if you can help. How old is that design? When was that design last made and the materials used? Can it date back to the land wars as he believes some battles took place around Mt Taupiri? I have done a little research. Considering those style of bugles appear to be quite common and less than $50 to purchase and also taking into account its condition (very good with hardly any dents or dings), I am guessing it's age is only a few decades or less and its historical value may not be much.
Thanks Guys for any help. Dave
Just wondering, could you possibly do a video on that other cheap-looking bugle? It looks similar to the sub-$20 ones you see on eBay.
Another great title... and a funny video to go with it!
much sarcasm
"high notes"
"Brass"
hah, good joke
It would make sense that a classic bugle mouthpiece would feel like its leaving a permanent divot in your chops- they were designed that way to help anchor the mouthpiece to a player's embouchure for when they are playing bugle calls while riding on horseback.
I have this same wall hanging, singing fish, piece of junk. I bought it from Ebay (of course) for around £15gbp, hoping to impress colleagues at the fire station. It's now a year since I purchased it, and still cannot get a tune! So I'm going to experiment with mouthpieces, thanks to your insights :)
Trent you kill me! When you said "I noticed the...the...the the the the uhhhh the the, words come to me!" I almost lost it
Just get a Kanstul bugle, or get a Getzen for which you can get a 2nd crook to have it in 2 keys.
To prevent if from getting sticky: grab duck tape and wrap it at the area you hold it. And then grab fabric super glue it on top of the duck tape with the same wrapping motion then boom. Problem is solved. Fun fact: at the 19-18th centuries they did the same this but instead of all this they Just grabbed leather and put it on there.
Do you play any woodwinds? I think I see a recorder on the shelf to the left.
Good bugles these days usually take trumpet mouth-pieces (sometimes cornet mouth-pieces) and are usually very expensive - often the same price as a good, mid-level student trumpet or cornet. Quite a lot of money for what is effectively a coil of copper pipe with a bell-end.
How much did it cost? I found some online for 16 ( includes shipping)
It looks super cute to be honest
Have you heard of the Shepards crook for the bugle? It's a pigtail of tube that fits between the mouthpiece and bugle to bring the key to B flat.