Longmill CNC Router - Complete Review MK2 (by Sienci Labs)

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
  • Thanks for following along with this video and hope you enjoyed it. If the Longmill piques your interest, check it out by clicking here now: sienci.com/pro...
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    This Longmill CNC router review takes you on a deep dive into the Longmill. The review covers virtually every aspect of the Longmill, from the company that makes it (Sienci Labs), to construction, to running the machine.
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Комментарии • 385

  • @IDCWoodcraft
    @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад +4

    Thanks for following along with this video and hope you enjoyed it. If the Longmill peaks your interest, check it out by clicking here now: sienci.com/product/longmill-idc-woodcraft/?ref=IDCWoodcraft

    • @paulrcreech7731
      @paulrcreech7731 2 года назад +1

      I have a question. If i have a circle (360 degree). 6” dia and I want six bolt or holes evenly spaced how do I do that

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад +1

      @@paulrcreech7731 do a search for circular array Vectric. You'll find the video I make to teach you exactly how to do that!!!!
      The thumbnail shows a round plaque with an eagle on it

  • @brianmorris6019
    @brianmorris6019 3 года назад +7

    I have had my Longmill about for about 3 months now and love it. This review is this must thorough one I have ever seen and would have saved me hours of my own research. Great job and can't wait to see what you create with it.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад +2

      Hi Brian. Hopefully, it will help those in the future simplify their research. I love the Longmill.

  • @Mtbeaver9
    @Mtbeaver9 2 года назад +1

    I really appreciate your time for educational information. I am a retired 70 year old with limited budget and was thtinking of buying on my budget and now have decided to wait till I save more and buy this Longmill CNC. You
    have totally made since about buying a quality machine vs just having something to just get by. I totally
    love your channel and your teaching. Be following you for more. Thank you and God Bless you and your family….

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Charles, there is a saying out there I have embraced. What you focus on expands. That CNC will come to you sooner than you think!

    • @StanProper
      @StanProper 8 месяцев назад

      Hi. I am also retired, but I'm 77 years old. I bought the Bob's CNC Quantum. It was really fun putting it together (around 100 pieces), and I learned so much that I probably wouldn't have learned by buying a machine that was already basically together. However, even though I haven't yet run into anything the machine wouldn't do, I still wonder if I will. I think that if I had it to do over again, I'd follow Garrett's advice and go with the Longmill. Now, I have to wait until I can afford to make a change. So far, I've found that it's best to listen to Garrett.

  • @siddhantchand5432
    @siddhantchand5432 3 года назад +1

    My first ever comment and im glad im doing it! I gotta say this 1.5 hour went like a joy ride! I have been looking to buy a CNC router all this while and your review just saved me soo much research! Such an underated channel for such high quality content! Im still young and gotta say im glad im hopping onto CNCing! Loads to learn from you Garrett and hope to see more videos of you! Subscribed, liked and notification on!

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hi Siddhant. This was an amazing share from you. Exactly what I hoped it would do...save people research time.
      Now I'm excited you are really considering it. What kinds of projects do you think you want to do?

  • @randallthompson9149
    @randallthompson9149 2 года назад +1

    Garrett, you sold me. I used your link to purchase a unit tonight. Seeing you ride on it helped me decide. I bought the 30 x 30, perfect for me starting out to mostly do signs. Anything larger with more bells and whistles right now would be overkill. Love the price too! Thank you!

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Hi Randy. Yes, there is something to be said about riding the machine. I knew I could do it the minute I had it assembled! Welcome aboard your new addiction!

  • @GunsandGuitars
    @GunsandGuitars 2 года назад +1

    Me: No way am I watching a 1.5 hr video.
    Also me (1.5hrs later): holy crap
    Awesome review!

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Lol! And I never would make a 1.5 review... Nobody would watch a video that long.
      Holy crap, they are! Lol

  • @christineham7655
    @christineham7655 3 года назад +1

    Looked at your video and did my homework. I went with the Longmill. Received my machine yesterday!

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hi Christine. Wow, you took the plunge. YAY!!! Now it's time to get creating. Please make sure to follow these 2 videos before you start cutting (watch in order)
      ruclips.net/video/HleRuNxI108/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/l1oh8nekPu4/видео.html

  • @howardpaulino7765
    @howardpaulino7765 3 года назад +2

    Thanks, you are by far the best. I have watched hundreds of videos on CNC you take everything to the next level. Getting ready to buy a CNC almost bought another CNC which would of cost around a $1000 more and from what I see this is a better CNC. I going to tell everyone I know about you. And plan on getting most of my needs for the long mill from you. Going to join your Facebook. YOU ROCK THANK YOU

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Wow, Howard. Thank you! I'm kinda speechless....
      so what kinds of projects do you have floating around in your head that you are going to be make VERY soon?

  • @scottmacdougall1256
    @scottmacdougall1256 3 года назад +1

    Garrett, thanks for recommending this video. I will be watching the rest of the videos you have posted and continue to follow your page. The longmill is at the top of my list now.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hey Scott. Welcome aboard the channel and community. You'll find people talk to each other here.
      Hey, if you decide on the longmill, will you do me a favor and use the link I have? It will help me out a little nit. Thanks...of course you have to let me know when you order your machine...whatever brand it is so I can do the happy dance with you!!!!

  • @efishnc
    @efishnc 2 года назад +1

    Thanks Garrett. My wife just passed and I have upgraded to the longmill from the MPCNC lowrider. Love the rigidity and keeps me busy!!

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Hi Erik. My thoughts are with you as I had also lost my wife. So I know the void. What made you upgrade to the longmill.

    • @efishnc
      @efishnc 2 года назад +1

      @@IDCWoodcraft You did. getting the laser soon also. ha ha. i don't need permission anymore.

  • @Johnny.D
    @Johnny.D 2 года назад +1

    After watching this video I am now super excited to get my new Longmill. Looks like I have alot of videos to watch.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Hey Fungus. Wow. I can read the excitement in your words! Have you rodered it? (sorry if you already told me...I forget)

  • @JoeCorrado
    @JoeCorrado 3 года назад +6

    A very good "in-depth" review, Garrett. Thanks again for a great production. As an affordable option, you can't really go wrong. So long as the buyer knows just what they require, and the Longmill will meet those requirements- it becomes an absolute no-brainer. Repeatability and accuracy may be of secondary importance for many! There is a story there!

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hi Joe. I got it check for accuracy. I keep forgeting to do repeatability.
      Longmill is a young machine that has growing pains as it adopts to the market demands and needs. I think you'll start seeing some major upgrades coming very soon.

    • @mr.p9882
      @mr.p9882 2 года назад

      Problem is, the buyer has no idea what to expect until they order and purchase. After it arrives, it is SUPPOSED to be a simple build and run. Forget that!!! I have had mine for 3 months and to date have not been able to run anything serious. Have made some very simple items, but once I attempted to make something serious, a sign of 20" x 16", it carved about three hours and WHAM just started carving wherever it chose to. Totally ruined my project. So, I tried to make the same sign in a smaller design, a 16" x 10", and darned if it didn't do the exact same thing!!! It is really just junk. And SIENCI is ADAMANT they will NOT accept a return. I reckon they are totally about the money, and will not stand to have to refund any of it. I should have known when I seen that on their website that it was a HUGE red flag.

  • @chuckgosselin949
    @chuckgosselin949 3 года назад +1

    Garrett. Outstanding! I am a 71 year old retiree who is setting up a work shop. My next addition will be a CNC machine. I have been exploring all machines in this price range. I stumbled on the Longmill a week ago and have read all the info. that I could find. Your presentation confirmed that the Longmill will be my next purchase. The engineering, simplicity and cost can’t be beat. The best part is the enthusiasm and commitment of the staff. Their goal seems to be to make the best CNC machine possible.
    Thanks again and keep up the great work. I will be a loyal follower of your site. I am going to need a lot of the direction that you provide!

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hi Chuck. Welcome to this amazing CNC world and an amazing community here on this channel!
      Yes, I agree. The common thread from users is a great experience with Longmill. After talking to them, I was definitely impressed in thier direction.
      I'll keep pumping out those videos for you, my friend.
      If you could, when you buy your Longmill, can you use the link on my website or in videos I make because gives me a little credit. thank you so much!

    • @chuckgosselin949
      @chuckgosselin949 3 года назад +1

      @@IDCWoodcraft Garrett. Thanks for the reply. I will reference you when I purchase my Long Mill. It won’t be for a couple of months. I am finishing up my first guitar build from scratch. I then have to reconfigure my shop and build a table. It’s all pretty exciting.
      Chuck

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      @@chuckgosselin949 I'd really like to see the guitar you're making. Send a picture in email.

    • @chuckgosselin949
      @chuckgosselin949 3 года назад +1

      @@IDCWoodcraft I will email you a pic. I should finish in 3-4 weeks.
      Chuck

  • @Sbregher
    @Sbregher 3 года назад +1

    OMG! OMG! Garrett, you have out done yourself with this video! By far, the best review video I have ever watched-for any product! Worth every second of watch time! I have had my Longmill for over 10 months and you have enlighten me to so many things about the machine! Wow! Thank you a thousand times for taking -what I know was many many hours, days, weeks- to put this AWESOME video together!!! You are a CNC RUclips tutorial rock star! Sienci Labs’ website is going to blow up with new orders!

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hey SB. Thank you, thank you. This video actually took seven solid days to plan and make. Well worth the time to help you and others with CNC'ing.

  • @Retiree2011
    @Retiree2011 2 года назад +1

    I seldom watch a video this long but I did tonight! I must say you are an excellent teacher who has a wealth of knowledge and experience! Really appreciate everything you said about this CNC machine. I am not sure I will eventually make the jump as I shall be 79 in a couple of months! However, you have just gotten me much closer to the jump! Thanks a million! And if I do, I shall certainly use your link!

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад +1

      Hi PW. This comment is a total compliment. Especially when you watched the entire thing! I am glad you are getting close. It is such an amazing experience to watch your design carve out right before your eyes!

  • @cpace123
    @cpace123 3 года назад +2

    My super quick review. The price is right. Had some QC problems with parts. Got replaced. If you are a tinkerer this a nice product. I run 2 lasers of my own with 20 years of experience. Had other hobby CNC's, built my own small CNC (12" x 12") just for practical experience. And have run commercial mills and CNC for about 3 years. Glad I got the biggest they own. And yes get the biggest you can as practical. Your room size may dictate the size of your machine. I got a shape co compact router for my cutter a year ago.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hi Hobby. You have been in this for quite some time and I love the idea that you built one just to get the deeper experience.

  • @icashelf8717
    @icashelf8717 2 года назад +1

    2nd time watching this after I thoroughly went through Longmill's assembly instructions. Really helps tie this together. Fascinating, your explanation reflecting inertia and structural engineering particularly in the gantry, Garrett. I'm getting ready. Thanks. ICA.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Hi ICA. Thanks regarding the video.
      You're getting ready to take the leap, huh? Do it brother. This stuff is so much fun!
      Can you do me a favor. If you get the Longmill, can you use my affiliate link. It'll give me a bit of pocket change. Thanks.
      Here's the link to use → www.sienci.com/?ref=idcwoodcraft

  • @williamcovell6324
    @williamcovell6324 3 года назад +1

    I am truly impressed by your quality presentations. I am glad you have found your life's meaning to live your dream . Your voice reflects your excitement that we all want in our lives. BTW, this was a 3 coffee session.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      It's funny. I actually thought about opening the video by saying, "okay Bill you better have a whole pot of coffee ready for this one."

  • @davew3276
    @davew3276 3 года назад +1

    This is a great video. When I first looked at this machine it was April of this year and of course your video did not exist at the time. I have not purchased yet but this confirms that I am making a good decision with my eventual purchase.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hi Dave. I am really glad this video helped. So, are you going for the Longmill, then?

  • @kathyyoung2943
    @kathyyoung2943 3 года назад +1

    I have been on the fence for weeks trying to determine which CNC Router I wanted. You have helped me to narrowed my choices down to three. Thank you for the thoroughly detailed review. Appreciate your instruction.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад +1

      Hi Kathy. Glad this got you in the right direction. Make sure to let me know what you finally decide on.

  • @davelandrytube
    @davelandrytube 3 года назад +1

    Excellent video Garrett
    This will be my next CNC when I outgrow my MPCNC. This checks so many items of my wishlist and Canadian company to boot.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hi Dave. I see Canada as basically my brother. So I am glad about that as well. Let me know when that time comes that you upgrade.

  • @housebuilder5314
    @housebuilder5314 2 года назад +1

    Excellent video, I hadn't heard of Sienci and their products before. You got a new Sub and Like. Thank you, Sir.
    It'd be nice to get an update to cover the MK2.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      House Builder, thanks and welcome aboard! Ya you should check out their website, they have a ton of cool stuff on there brother.

  • @JoeCorrado
    @JoeCorrado 3 года назад +1

    I have been looking deeper into the Longmill- and it's community of users. There are many makers out there who are quite happy with this machine. Lots of content out there and most all are happy with the machine, its capabilities, and its performance. As with ALL machines in the class, there are give and take aspects to be considered, but yes- this machine is solid in its own right. At the price point, it would be hard to go wrong. My own son is a fan, in fact. We will be looking at one as an upgrade to our SainSmart 3018.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hey Jow. you guys will definitely enjoy the upgrade. It will be an entirely new world for sure!

  • @southernjoes8372
    @southernjoes8372 2 года назад +1

    Excellent content. I like the technical aspect. Definitely going to go this direction over the other “One” in this category. Thanks

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Southern Joe's, thanks I'm glad it was helpful!

  • @grantpeckford2035
    @grantpeckford2035 3 года назад +5

    Great video and advice, I didn't see the longmill when I was shopping around. I think it's a awesome machine in its class! The price is great too! If had saw this machine when I was looking, I would have been very interested! I am happy with my purchase of the onefinity but it was an extremely long wait! Luckily I had lots of projects to get out of the way first. I love the fact that the longmill is made in Canada, that's a big bonus for me! Onefinity also from Canada so it had my vote too! But it cost a lot more in the end. It's easier for me to deal with companies in Canada because of taxes, money exchange and duties. I think you've made a great choice!!!

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hey Grant. They are both great machines. So now we both are in good shape!

    • @davew3276
      @davew3276 3 года назад +1

      @@IDCWoodcraft So far, everything else I've seen in this category is more expensive for really the same capabilities. I might just be naive since I'm just starting in CNC but that's the impression I'm getting as I research.

  • @markboyer6486
    @markboyer6486 2 года назад +1

    Thanks Garrett. I was trying to decide what CNC to purchase. A friend has a long mill 30x30. I will also be ordering one very soon. Thanks for all the informative insite

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Hi Mark. Excellent. What do you want to start creating?
      Also, when you order yours, can you please use my link? It helps me by giving me a little pocket change. Thank you.

  • @andrearseneault5097
    @andrearseneault5097 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for the complete review. I just got my Longmill 30x30 setup and just chomping at the bit to start making chips. One great aspect of the Longmill for me was it's capability to be modified. Due to limited space in my garage i could not fit a 30x30 machine but, like you mentioned, I knew I wanted bigger than 30x12. With just a few cuts in the aluminum extrusion and the lead screws on the Y axis I was able to cut 175mm off the Y axis. This will give me around 26" which is much better than the 12" with the smaller model.
    Looking forward to more great content

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hey Andre. As we already spoke in email, I already mantioned how ingenious that was to modify it. I'll mention that sometime in an upcoming video.

  • @accessiblecruisetravel-dre3383
    @accessiblecruisetravel-dre3383 2 года назад +1

    Just used your link to order my Longmill MK2 48X30, your spoilboard GCode and will be ordering the router bits.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Im happy to hear it Accessible Cruse. You are going to be cutting in no time.

  • @terryhealy7826
    @terryhealy7826 2 года назад +1

    Garrett, you continue to amaze. I was aiming for a Onefinity 50 in my dream world. But when I realized you chose this machine, I knew it could do more than I would ever ask of it. And that before they released Mk2. When you climbed on top of the X rail, that sealed the deal. Of course, the $1K price makes a world of difference for me. I’m a software guy by day, so I’ll get this bugger running on a Raspberry Pi not long after I receive it. Thanks.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Hi Terry. Even I was surprised Icould srtand on the machine. Did you order yours ye? Ifnot, I was wondering if you could use my link. It's an affiliate link so I'll get a little commission off it.

    • @terryhealy7826
      @terryhealy7826 2 года назад

      @@IDCWoodcraft just bid on a house with a big shop today, so have not ordered yet. I will use your link when I do for sure.

    • @mr.p9882
      @mr.p9882 2 года назад +1

      @@IDCWoodcraft I am also looking into this machine, and you will see my post above. I have not finished this video yet, but will...maybe most of my questions will be answered. Thus far my biggest concern is the durability and longevity of those V-wheels and their wear on the aluminum. I'm pretty sure I will be ordering a machine in the next week or so, and if this machine meets my needs I will order through your link. I doubt I will be putting the hours into it as you have so if it has held up as well as it should for production, it may be my choice!!!

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      @@mr.p9882 I was concerned about the v wheels as well so ordered a second set. But after a year, I haven't needed to replace them yet. As far as the aluminum rails, all the does is polish them up and Make them look prettier!

  • @Allsource-inc
    @Allsource-inc 3 года назад +2

    Very nice machine Garrett and awesome review! Wished I would have had this info a couple of years ago, I would have bought one of these. Guess I'll hang in there with my WorkBee.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад +1

      Hi Allsource. You still have a decent machine.

  • @vdsivan
    @vdsivan 2 года назад +1

    hi Garrett, i was looking for some more intel on cnc machines and i think to have found what i wanted all along. Nice video by the way. A good and honest revieuw and teaching. I will keep following your teachings.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Ivan, I am so happy you learned a lot from this video and you know what to look out for in terms of a CNC!

  • @evilgoatgarage4193
    @evilgoatgarage4193 2 года назад +1

    App engineer here, glad I’m not the only person who works with cnc machines all day and then come home and run one as a hobby

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Evil Goat Garage, you're definitely not alone brother! I believe we have quite the fleet of us on here! Happy cutting my friend!

  • @cncprogrammer3265
    @cncprogrammer3265 3 года назад

    I'm glad you are as impressed with the machine after you assembled and began using it as you were when you researched and bought it. I don't know if I would have stood on the gantry to show rigidity, but point made. I thought the machine could handle the forces of the 1/4 dia X 1.00 dp down mill cut but the tool probably would not. 100 in/min seemed severe. Just no place for the chips to go. I didn't think the up cutter would fare much better. I'm surprised and impressed. It spit out material like crazy and cut a nice clean and deep slot.
    I'm used to cutting lots of different metals. I select tools, feed rates, depth of cuts and type of tool path based on the material I'm removing. I keep getting more aggressive with my feed rates and depth of cuts in wood. I don't have a Long Mill. I'm impressed with the Long Mill capabilities so far. And the price point is extraordinary for that level of performance.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      I didn't explain it right regarding the 1/4 bit. It was a 3/4 flute lengths. I was part the flies. That's why I couldn't go any deeper

  • @andreww6738
    @andreww6738 3 года назад +1

    Hey Garrett, GREAT video! Nice work explaining thru everything, very thourough in deed. When I purchased my Shapeoko XXL the info available for the Longmill was pretty scarce, and man they are...like 30 minutes from where I live, bummer. I like everything you pointed out and like the acme thread over the belt system, though I have not encountered any issues, but I certainly cannot cut at that speed with the Shapeoko. When time comes to get another machine I will most certainly focus my attention on the Longmill. Also I saw very recently that the Makita router will outlast the Dewalt at least four times...that is stinking huge, my Dewalt only lasted a year, I'm on my third one in two and a half years. The brushes are hard to get and take forever to receive them, like 3 weeks, that socks. Anyways I'm rambling, keep up the great work, you're doing awesome!

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hi Andrew. You still have a good machine. I've also heard that about the Makita vs Dewalt.

  • @ccrepinssek
    @ccrepinssek 3 года назад +1

    Great job sir. Thank you for the in-depth review and for those long run advice.

  • @paulrcreech7731
    @paulrcreech7731 2 года назад +1

    I have X Carve 1000x1000 upgraded. Good machine. The dewalt is junk two in two years. Inventables replaced the first one free and also gave me brushes to fix it. Very good company love them , but I hate the dam belts and the plastic guide wheels. I still love the machine but would love to try the longmill. Money to tight right now maybe someday. Looks like a great machine

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад +1

      Paul, sorry to hear your machine has been causing you issues I know how frustrating that is! I'g glad their company has always treated you well though, that says a lot about a business! As you know, I only have great things to say about my longmill, it's always treated me well brother!

    • @paulrcreech7731
      @paulrcreech7731 2 года назад +1

      Well my luck goes. Been tying to do some 3D for over a week kept crashing. Well the z axes linier bearing wheat out. Love you show helps alot

  • @matthewphillips9455
    @matthewphillips9455 2 года назад +1

    I am glad I found this video. The amount of information that you have laid out have certainly narrowed the options that I have been looking for in the purchase of my first cnc machine. I am curious about the beginning of this video when you said you took 2 companies off your list that you were considering, which companies were they?

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Hi Matthew, I'm glad you found the info helpful. The other machienes I was talking about were onefinity and AVID. What machienes have you been looking into?

  • @r2db
    @r2db 2 года назад +1

    Many years ago I had purchased a machine that is far more rigid (and it likely weighs at least twice as much as your Longmill in less than one quarter of the footprint), but the disadvantage was that the machining envelope is very tiny (~6x6 inches). Yes, it can cut steel and aluminum, which are the main things I need at the moment. However, at the moment it is also necessary to be able to machine much larger pieces and with my machine I can't stick something out of the machine as the table itself is the Z axis, so I would need to build a slave Z axis and deal with all the fun of that. The other issue is the manufacturer of my machine is no longer in existence and some potential replacement parts are just going to be impossible to obtain (one piece in particular takes either a 5 axis CNC or multiple different setups and the tolerances directly impact the overall machine accuracy - in other words, a one-off replacement part would likely cost more than just purchasing one of many of the currently produced machines).
    In short, yes, you are correct that it may be much better to purchase a machine that is big enough for the foreseeable use cases.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад +1

      r2db, all good points my friend. Your machine sounds like a good one, no doubt about that, especially for metals. But there is something to be said about being able to get replacement parts!

    • @r2db
      @r2db 2 года назад

      @@IDCWoodcraft Agreed, it is a good machine. It's just orphaned (it is called a BoXZY and those of us who own them have no idea who, if anyone, has the source code/ design files/ etc. should we need support) and not exactly what I need at the moment. It was also much, much more expensive than other machines. In part, the increased rigidity was the reason I made the decision in the first place. I could probably run it over with my pickup truck and it would barely notice.

  • @lwill53951
    @lwill53951 2 года назад +1

    As a Cnc machinist that started in Cnc when we run them on paper tape im retired from Lockheed Martin after 35 years before that i was in manual job shops. I was impressed with your background and love your videos im curious about the plastic and the Delron wheels but considering what these Cnc are used for should be fine but i ask as one journeyman to another do you see the improvements that could be made ? But i think it is a fine machine. I am building a 48 x 48 all ball screws and track bearings i found a granit insp.table im using as a base. again love the videos

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад +1

      Les, considering what this machine is designed for, it is excellent. . It isnt a Haas by any means but my cuts are accurate to about 0.005". For wood and most soft metal designs, that is usually plenty. You can always make a bigger better machine but that always comes at a cost.

  • @steved7234
    @steved7234 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for the in-depth review and showing off of the features of the Longmill. I too was convinced when I had questions and actually dealt with Chris or Andy well over a year and a half ago (Build version 2 of the 30x30). They have had some QC issues in the past (many from suppliers and a few internal as they were growing so rapidly) and have attacked them head on and resolved them - the sign of a caring company. I went back and forth on machines and it was this Company and their responsiveness that pushed me over the edge and I am more than happy with my 30x30. Now with the ground up re-building of gSender (I was one of the original gSender Alpha testers), I agree that this company will be on top in 2 years. More on the way, I understand too!

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hi Steve. Yup, you see it. There is something to be said about a company that is not only responsive, but transparent as well.

  • @sampletaster5093
    @sampletaster5093 Год назад +1

    Very good review it allowed me to evaluate the machine from my eye as an engineer. The most difficulty I have evaluating these machines is to get an apples to apples comparison. I think the long mill offers just the minimum and the other bits and pieces can be added based on your preference. In particular I am referring to the software and operation interface. Final note what were the other top 3 you considered?

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  Год назад

      Sample Taster, you couldn't be more correct. Having add on's is a great idea because you can pick and choose what you actually need!

  • @BigBear48
    @BigBear48 2 года назад +1

    Just pulled the trigger! Thank you for the review.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Hi Pink. Wow! Congrats and wlecome to the community! How long have you been thinking about getting a CNC?
      By the way, were able to use the link I have when you purchased? It's an affiliate link so it gives me a little pocket change.

    • @BigBear48
      @BigBear48 2 года назад +1

      @@IDCWoodcraft shoot no I went in straight from the website. Let me contact them to see if I can get you commission on it.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      @@BigBear48 thanks!

  • @stoynostoynov1853
    @stoynostoynov1853 2 года назад +2

    Your video get me really thinking for that machine, and probably i will buy one. I am a bit concern about their new version, it seems they change the extrusion. I did some static simulation for the double L extrusion and the deflection is a bit better compared to XC50 with two 37mm shaft guides. The only downside is that deflection with those double L extensions is not only in Z direction, but it twist the axis, aprox 0.17 mm deflection at 200 N, it also looks very similar to the broken mill part, if you watch carefully probably you will notice also the twist, that i think was the main reason for the brake.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад +1

      Stoyno, I see what you mean brother. Great point about the deflection patterns, I hadn't thought of it that way before!

    • @stoynostoynov1853
      @stoynostoynov1853 2 года назад

      @@IDCWoodcraft Anyway i order one, it's handy to have it on hand. Watching the video my first impression was that the mill face the knot, it's harder, the spinel rpm drop, the cutting rate drop and the feed become too fast for the lower cutting rate. But later on when watch it few more times it looks all start when the mill is pushed up by the cutting force,and this cause also a twist. Anyway, great video, looks decent machine for the price, will know in a few days. I suppose all routers in that class will have a similar problems, to prevent this twist need really rigid structure, and also symmetric. I am used to a large machines, will see how will handle with this one :)

  • @Darkechilde
    @Darkechilde 3 года назад +1

    Nice work. I'm cutting my teeth learning this hobby on a small format (13"x13") CNC router (Snapmaker 2.0 A350), and intend to earn income from that learning experience, to fund purchasing a larger format CNC Router - and this review really brings home what to look for. Really great work, both on general education, as well as specific review of the Longmill. Thank you!

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Thanks Bill. It was important to help people like you make sure you are making the best decisions possible.

  • @jayfluegel7401
    @jayfluegel7401 2 года назад +1

    Garrett, I will echo what many others have said already, thank you for this video. I have been researching now for a month or so and been agonizing over which machine to get. You are the only one that I have come across that actually put the machine to the test to the point of failure. In addition, I was absolutely blown away to see actually standing on the machine! I'm sold! One question if you could comment on. I live in Michigan so in the winter my workspace can get down to into the low 30's F. On the days I am going to work in my shop I heat it up to about 70 degree which only take about 1 hour. Is there any concern on what effect this could have on the electronics? Another company I asked this question to said to just leave the control on 24/7. Not a big deal although I noticed on your machine the control says to turn it off when not in use. Is this something I need to be concerned about?

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Hi Jay. First of all thank you for the compliments regarding this video. I think you're going to really enjoy this new crafter going to get into. As far as the electronics, it's subjective. Electronics don't start to suffer until they get extremely hot or extremely cold. Sometimes I leave them on, sometimes I turn them off. I've never had an issue at all. In summary, I don't think you have anything to be concerned with either way.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Jay, you're so welcome! Before you start cutting, you're going to want to warm up your palm router and the bearings that are inside. To do this when it is really cold, I recommend running it at a speed of 2/6 for 1 minute then a speed of 4/6 for 1 minute. Then you are ready to cut! Everything else in the shop will be fine with those temperature levels unless you have a high moisture content in the air and condensation forms on the electronics!
      Don't be concerned with temperature unless you get into the -20 degrees region. I would recommend insulating your shop if that happens!
      If you ever upgrade to a spindle, it's important to warm it up by running it at a low/medium speed for a minute then a medium/ high speed for a minute. Typically 12000rpm then 15000 rpm.

  • @jamescullins2709
    @jamescullins2709 3 года назад +1

    very impressive, Garrett, very good explanation of the X-axis.

  • @sagelikea6130
    @sagelikea6130 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for this great review. I've been looking at all kinds of CNC machines and you sold me on this one. I almost bought a Fox Alien 4040-XE for almost the same price but this one is much better.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Hi Glenn. I'm glad you were able to make a choice you are comfortable with. I do absolutely endorse the Longmill.
      Can you do me a favor when you purchase? Can you use the link I provide in the video description? It gove me a little pocket change. Thanks!

    • @sagelikea6130
      @sagelikea6130 2 года назад

      @@IDCWoodcraft I bought the CNC almost immediately after watching your video which I watched onTV so didn't know there was an affiliate link. I sent them a note letting them know you sold me on it so hopefully that works.

    • @sagelikea6130
      @sagelikea6130 2 года назад

      @@IDCWoodcraft Good new. I sent a note to Sienci and they have applied the referral to your account.

  • @snydercustomwoodwork
    @snydercustomwoodwork 3 года назад +1

    I’ve been going back and forth for months about which 30x30 machine to go with and hadn’t really considered the longmill until recently. After watching this video and lots of your others I’m sold. The ability to run at the depth and speeds shown here is impressive for sure, as well as the rigidity. I will be ordering mine this week!
    Looking to put it to work immediately, as I am on the waiting list for a Cnc4newbie 5x5 r&p machine being released in February I am hoping to pick up as well lol. Luckily I feel that the ROI is solid on the Longmill

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад +1

      Hi DPM. Wow, I can feel the excitement just by reading your comment! You are clearly ready to rip through this new creative space. That makes me happy to see people chose this type of thing for themselves.
      Can you do me a favor when you order your Longmill? Can you use the link I have? It gives me a little bump on the backend. Thank you!
      What software are you going with?

    • @snydercustomwoodwork
      @snydercustomwoodwork 3 года назад +1

      @@IDCWoodcraft I’ve had a laser for almost a year, and I love it but, the CNC router will be much more useful for the type of work I do.
      I will absolutely use your link, I appreciate you making all the videos you do! I’ll search for it now. I will be going with Vcarve pro for software

  • @ulyssesd9896
    @ulyssesd9896 3 года назад +1

    Thank you so so much.You helped me big time with the decision i will make soon.I had the gut feeling on something i thought of for a while now and you gave me confirmation to just do it,along with other great points i found very useful. I subscribed and if i could love the video i would.Thx agian M8!

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hi Ulusses. Wow, love the video...that was funny, and thank you.
      I am so glad this has given you clarity and answered some questions. What is it about CNC routers that has you interested. What do you want to make?

  • @bradbrown2168
    @bradbrown2168 2 года назад +1

    Awesome presentation. Really well done.

  • @johnmanges4047
    @johnmanges4047 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video. I am in the beginning stages of looking for a hobby CNC. The video is great, but I have one question you covered the bits but can you explain the black mat and the clamps that was there. If you have pointed it out previously I apologize

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Hey John, sorry for such a delayed response it's been a crazy week! Are you meaning the black mat that I have on the floor? Or are you referencing the spoilboard? The mat that I have on the floor is just a rubber mat that protects the endmills from hitting the hard floor if I drop one of them. It saves my endmills from breaking! The black "mat" on the top on the cutting surface is actually my spoilboard. Here's a link to the video of how to make your own spoilboard → ruclips.net/video/dbxtLQY26Cw/видео.html.
      And here's a video where I go over how to make your own clamps too! Here's the link → ruclips.net/video/b9miRXZGd1I/видео.html.

  • @davidmcconnell9128
    @davidmcconnell9128 2 года назад +2

    Excellent video. My only concern are the "v" wheels. You said it yourself that you tightened them too much and the surface adapted to the increase in holding force by pealing off........ That by itself bothers me. If you over tightened them and they adjusted, then might that same concept apply over time as the wheels move back and forth that this "adjustment" might also occur??? Your thoughts.....

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Hi David. The V-wheels are the wear item on the machine. However, once they 'nested', they gave been doing very well and there has not been a need to replace them yet.

  • @jameswhiting7469
    @jameswhiting7469 3 года назад +1

    Hello Garrett, I have been watching your channel for a while now. Through my research and with me Military Engineering background I found the Sienci Longmill about two months ago and ordered one based on the lead screws and the engineering aspect of it. After watching this video and knowing that you can place ~150 lbs on the carriage rail I am convinced I made the right choice. I did not buy the dust shoe but did so today using your link, In also purchased a second set of ACME nuts so I can used the jam nut method on all but the Z axis due to clearance for the backlash nut. I have not built mine yet due to building a work shed is not completed. Thank you for all your videos. I have learned a great deal about using my VCARVE Pro.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hi James. I'm glad you're here. Standing on it is definitely something I wasn't afraid of. Good to see someone taking my advice. I'll be ordering the nuts also. And thank you for using my link.

  • @josephunthank363
    @josephunthank363 2 года назад +1

    Hi Garrett. Great review. I have one of the first Shark CNC by NextWave and am considering upgrading. The Longmill and gsender offers many features I do not have. Does the available software with the Longmill make it possible to carve curved (or warped) surfaces such as the back of a chair, like can be done with virtual zero unlimited in Nextwave's software?

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Joseph, the Longmill doesn't have this multipoint z axis probing feature.

  • @donmeyers7841
    @donmeyers7841 2 года назад +1

    Hi Garret, great information and will order one as soon in a couple of weeks. One question of interest I have after/during mounting on the work surface is there any issue mounting it on the wall vs a table?

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Honestly, I don't know. I haven't mounted mine on the wall yet. But I will very shortly. I don't see why you couldn't do that though

  • @splinterfingerswoodworking8995
    @splinterfingerswoodworking8995 3 года назад +1

    Awesome video very instructional I have been planning on getting the long mail when I have saved the funds for it and this has done nothing but reassure my decision even more thank you so much for this video it answered a lot of questions I've had

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад +1

      Hey Slplinter. So glad this was helpful. How long do you think it will be before you get your machine?

    • @splinterfingerswoodworking8995
      @splinterfingerswoodworking8995 3 года назад +1

      I'm hoping in early 2022 I'm wanting my business to pay for it in full so I'm saving every penny I can

  • @canaboost
    @canaboost 2 года назад +1

    When you say top 4 in its class, where are you getting that from? What are the other three? I would like to do more research prior to ordering. Great video, thanks! Just subscribed!

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад +1

      Hello DB. Thanks for joining my channel. The other 3 are
      Kill Wright
      Onefinity
      Shapeopo
      Thanks for the compliment on the video.

    • @J.erem.y
      @J.erem.y 2 года назад

      I own a shapeoko XXL, and this thing doesn't compare to that one. This is a sub 2000 dollar cnc, the shapeoko uses all metal everything, touchless homing sensors and a balls crew z. In my opinion this system for 1200 bucks is good, but curb your expectations, this cnc is full out a budget level cnc.

  • @redherring5532
    @redherring5532 3 года назад +2

    I wanted to make arcade panels didnt know much about cnc, so I got a 3d printer to see how it all kinda works out. Then year later i get the x carve and it was too small for a lot of arcade stuff without tiling, but it paid for itself with other stuff I didn't even imagine.. so I got the bigger queenbee and all is well, wife is getting into the x carve and learning how to use it, so yeah I spent a lot to get it right size wise with two machines but its evolved into something really neat

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hey John. Isn't it interesting how we get into something and it morphs into something completely unexpected? And now your wife is in it too!

  • @hillustration
    @hillustration Год назад

    Thanks! This video was very helpful. I've been looking at the Shapeoko 5 pro, but I think the mk2 might be a better fit for me. What is your opinion between the two? This will fit my budget much better.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  Год назад

      Hillustration, thanks for supporting me and what I do brother! I'm glad the video was helpful. Both the Shapeoko and the MK2 are awesome machines. I always recommend going with the machine that feels like the right fit for you and your needs. At the end of the day, what matters most is being able to create the projects you've been imagining!

    • @hillustration
      @hillustration Год назад

      @@IDCWoodcraft Happy to do it. I also just realized I can start with the 30 x 30 mk2 and upgrade it to the 48 x 30 if I need to later. That, and the cost difference is making me lean this way. Really appreciate the information. It has helped me save a lot of money and make what is a better decision for my situation.

  • @grahamrankin4725
    @grahamrankin4725 3 года назад +1

    Very useful info especially about assembly and gSender.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Thanks Grahm. What do you think was the best info that you got from this?

  • @cncprogrammer3265
    @cncprogrammer3265 3 года назад +1

    I've found over many years that a cutting tool with a length of cut greater than 4X the diameter is fragile and deflects a lot. When cutting full dia slots at full LOC at profile cut feed rates, the tool doesn't have much of a chance. There's a lot of tangential forces on the tool and chip evacuation is a problem. A down cutting bit would surely not be the tool to use for deep slot cutting. Chips are pushed down into the slot, making the situation worse. I was surprised you got as far as you did with that elevated feed rate. Maybe if not for that knot, the tool may have somehow completed the cut. That would have been surprising. When that up cut bit completed the cut, I was impressed. I'm rethinking my feed rates and depths of cuts.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hey CNc. Yes, I need to do a video on tool deflection since it is a major aspect to cut quality than many do not realize. thanks for saying that.
      It takes a bit of guts to get a machine feed up so high but it is better to do that for sure.

    • @cncprogrammer3265
      @cncprogrammer3265 3 года назад +1

      Larger cuts, at higher feed rates or larger cutting tools removing more material, exerts more forces and always has a fail point. Pieces can move, be ripped out of vises or clamps can fail to hold a piece in place at some point. Failure of the cutting tool before any of this happens seems to be the best condition that can occur.

  • @AJClean713
    @AJClean713 Год назад +1

    Just watched and stopped over to Sienci Labs to check them out. Looks like they have gone away from right angle sides, cut down on the heftiness metal gantry ends, and did the same to the z axis. You had me sold on getting the LongMill until I saw its cheaper made brother. I made the mistake of getting a bobs cnc and will not tolerate a flimsy machine. I was looking into the Onefinity Elite, but the wait time is 16-18 weeks. What's your thoughts on LongMills new build, I can't see it being as sturdy as yours?

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  Год назад

      Adam, it is an improvement hands down. They removed some of the weight but drastically increased rigidity overall.

  • @josephkickbusch340
    @josephkickbusch340 2 года назад +1

    Wow thank you I just bought one 30x30 may 2022 $1658 ships to Wisconsin I ordered after hours I will be in touch sir
    Thank you for your time.Captnjoe

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Hey Joe, right on brother! Congrats on ordering your machine! I'm excited to see what you create!

  • @mbalars1
    @mbalars1 3 года назад +1

    Excellent information Garrett....

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад +1

      Hi Michael. I get to message you a lot this morning!!!

  • @cpace123
    @cpace123 3 года назад +1

    Garret. By the way. I use a USB game pad to move my CNC around on the xyz axis. So I don't have to be next to the computer. Mine is wired, but you could use wireless game pad. I make keyboards short cuts on the the UGS program, and then use a program call keyjoy that converts my joystick button to key strokes. The joy stick cost me $10 for 2 nintendo NES joystick. It's great. So right from the game pad I can also zero the axis, and return home, and even pause. Message me if you want more info

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      I think I'll go the route of wireless game controller. I'll tap into your knowledge when I start to go in that direction.

  • @timmartin6748
    @timmartin6748 2 года назад +1

    Hi Garrett, thanks for the video as it gave some depth into what it can do, the pros and cons, what you experienced with the process of putting it together and the actual testing of it. I think I heard you say the 30x30 was the footprint of the machine. What is the XYZ limits of travel on the 30x30? I don't see it on the website either. If in fact it is 30x30 cutting area then what is the footprint? I was sold on the Onefinity Woodworker 32x32 but do have some things to consider on getting a Longmill. I appreciate the time you took on the video thanks again.

    • @timmartin6748
      @timmartin6748 2 года назад

      Never mind on answering the questions as I looked further down the website and see the 30x30 can cut 31x33 and footprint is 45x44

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Glad you found the answer. Sorry for the delay. Holidays ya know

  • @johnmason3475
    @johnmason3475 3 года назад +1

    Great video Garrett! I like the fact there are no limit switches, drive belts etc. Do you need to tram the Z like some others?

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hi John. Yes, tramming is necessary only on left and right. It's easy.

  • @3ddesignz941
    @3ddesignz941 3 года назад +1

    Hello Garrett.
    I finally got my longmill put together.
    It took me s little longer than anticipated because I wanted to change out some hardware and have the controller on the right-side.
    I haven't made anything yet cause I'm still setting up the spoil bard surface.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hi 3D. Excellent. You'll have to send pictures of your right-handed setup.

    • @3ddesignz941
      @3ddesignz941 3 года назад +1

      I will when finished.
      What an awesome review on the Longmill. I thought you were kidding when you said you were going to stand on the X gantry on your earlier review. Lol.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      @@3ddesignz941 I kid a lot. But this thing impressed me that much that I was going to try it no matter what.

    • @3ddesignz941
      @3ddesignz941 3 года назад

      I think the folks at Sienci Labs would be equally impressed when their sales pickup because of your demonstration in strength and rigidity in their machine.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      @@3ddesignz941 they just might...

  • @markmoulin41
    @markmoulin41 2 года назад +1

    Any benefit to buying the spindle as opposed to the router?

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Mark, not much my friend. It's really personal preference and what you decide to cut!

  • @jjae731
    @jjae731 3 года назад +2

    Hi Garrett, Awesome review. Quick question what's the maximum depth it can cut? Would it provide any benefit to putting shims under the rails or recessing the spoil board into the table to be able to carve thicker stock?

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hi JJ. Max z travel is 4.5" (112 mm). Regarding spoilboard, it works much better with one on top of the table. You will start to lose z capability if you go to table surface. Make sense?

    • @jjae731
      @jjae731 3 года назад

      @@IDCWoodcraft so the 4.5 inch cut depth is to the top of the spoil board not to the table? Either way I can't wait to get one.

  • @randyweil2678
    @randyweil2678 3 года назад +1

    Hi Garrett, another awesome video! The Longmill is my next machine! I'm using a Shapeoko XXL right now. Still stuck with UGS at the moment. I downloaded gSender and installed it but I get a "No devices found" when I try to connect. I was able to connect to a Genmitsu 3018 with no issues. i've even played with the com port assignments but maybe i'm not doing something right. After playing with it on the 3018 I want it to work on the Shapeoko! Do you have any suggestions or know where I could go for more info?
    Thanks for all you share, I've been learning in leaps and bounds by watching your videos!
    Randy
    Eastman, GA

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hey Randy, put a post in the CNC troubleshooters facebook group. Jeff Holmes will help you on this.

    • @randyweil2678
      @randyweil2678 3 года назад +1

      @@IDCWoodcraft Thanks Garrett, I'll do that!

  • @frankjames4573
    @frankjames4573 2 года назад +2

    Hi I never new about long mill until now, I live in the uk...
    I can't seem to find the smaller machines...
    Have they discontinued the smaller machines?
    Frank...

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Hi Frank, which size of the longmill are you looking for brother?

    • @frankjames4573
      @frankjames4573 2 года назад +1

      @@IDCWoodcraft
      Hi chap, as i'm retired now i'm just a hobbyist and only do smaller projects !
      So, im only looking for something less, let's say 12 x 12 or 12 x 30... depending on the price!
      Funnily enough, i'm a retired woodworker too...
      Me and my grand daughter were messing around in the shop today, with cnc software!
      Also i tried to dload the software for the long mill today... but for some reason i must jhave messed up ... i couldn't get it to work! dload didn't seem to work either!
      Anyway, it will be sorted eventually i guess...
      Frank...

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      @@frankjames4573 contact longmill if you can't get it to run. They will take care of you

  • @vaughnedmeade662
    @vaughnedmeade662 Год назад +1

    Thanks i love what your doing please keep it up . Could i get all your videos thanks i am just a starting to understand thanks to you i want to get in this business thanks again Sir .

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  Год назад

      Vaughn, glad you are enjoying all the videos brother! Here is a list of all of them: bit.ly/3mLHGfI

  • @B.A.Bassangler
    @B.A.Bassangler Год назад

    Prior to finding your channel, I heard that spindles were more accurate than routers. Is that a moot point due to the superior rigidity of the Longmill? I'll be searching your library for related info, if anybody want's to chime in, I'm all ears. Thank you.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  Год назад +1

      B.A.Bassangler9354, the longmill is really designed to run with the Makita hand router and does great with it! I've known some cncers who choose to install a spindle, however I don't thing the benefit is worth the headache of installing one.

  • @MrLkelso
    @MrLkelso 2 года назад +1

    Been watching your video's. Just purchased my 1st machine. A yorahome silverback 6060. One question i havent seen asked is: can you laser your engraving/carving with either the same pic (for depth) or any other pic?

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад +1

      Hi Kelso. Yes, you can. After you get some experience. It takes some thought

  • @baburambhatta991
    @baburambhatta991 2 года назад +1

    I love this machine and your presentation. Can this machine scratches on granite? How can i get it in Nepal?

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Hi Baduram. Yes, the machine can engrave granite with the quality diamond engraver. For shipping, you'll need to email Longmill. You can get their contact info here → bit.ly/3JQx3BB

  • @green323turbo
    @green323turbo 2 года назад +1

    Its just a ultralight Entry level Kit .. that only hold a tiny 1Hp trimmer router. Its also based on off the shelf aluminum Angle extrusion .. that inherently isn't very straight . Aluminum Box is very straight, but Angle tends to have a bend . But for the cheap price its not that bad a toy to start with.
    You can't cut much with a 1Hp router so you will want to build a heavier from that can hold a 2 1/4 or bigger router that can take a 1/2" tool

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Hi, Green. Thanks for commenting. You are right...it is not an industrial machine. I would say, at least there is a group of CNC routers that home hobbyists can afford that work well, and gives them the ability to make some very cool projects.

  • @hammer5261
    @hammer5261 3 года назад +1

    thnx...really appreciate the review...very very informative👍

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hi Hammer. thank you. You're getting ready to dive into this amazing creative CNC world?

  • @MrKtmstu
    @MrKtmstu 3 года назад +1

    Great rundown of the machine, very in depth.
    For my money (at the same price and work area as the longmill 3030) the Shapeoko 4 has my vote by a country mile. (I owned a shapeoko 3 for some years) no 3d printed parts and an extremely rigid bed.
    The longmill looks to be a great option though and after your video I realise it's a lot more rigid than I originally thought

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hey Stu. You still have a strong machine. It's funny how the longmill looks are interpreted as how strong it is or isn't, until you understand the engineering behind it.

    • @MrKtmstu
      @MrKtmstu 3 года назад +1

      @@IDCWoodcraft I honestly didnt realise there was a second piece of channel on the gantry until this video, that increases the rigidity substantially.
      I sold my Shapeoko 3, my 5x5 Avid Pro arrived yesterday

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      @@MrKtmstu wow, here big boy machine just arrived. Make sure you send pictures of it after you have it set up.

  • @jeffrhoads3829
    @jeffrhoads3829 2 года назад +1

    Is ther a NEW LongMill Benchtop CNC MK2? If so what are the improvements if any? Looks like you have to choose a router to go with it.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Hi Jeff. Yes, they upgraded the machine. When I get mine, I'll shoot another video on it. If you watched the video, you'll know why you have to chose a router.

  • @cpace123
    @cpace123 3 года назад +1

    Suggestion. Use a wirelss lapel for recording so your voice stays the same value. I am having to adjust the volume continually

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Got it. I'll be more careful about that. Thanks for the tip.

  • @villageidiot8718
    @villageidiot8718 3 года назад +1

    Very informative video. Liked, subscribed and rang the bell. 😁
    When pressing a nut into a pocket, many times I find it easier to run a bolt or screw and washer through from the other side and just tighten to pull the nut in.
    After looking at various videos on RUclips, I wanted a Onefinity Journeyman X-50 (48" cutting on X) but the price is just a bit out of reach and I don't want to go without eating for a month or two. So, I decided to settle for OpenBuilds 1515 (46" cutting on X). Looks to be strong enough. Then I saw you riding on this machine!
    I like that the Y rails are supported and Z uses MGN rails.
    I would prefer that the plastic parts were injection molded rather than printed. But then, I can print them with alterations if desired.
    I'm just disappointed that the X is limited to 31" cut. If I use the magnet mounted dust boot, how much more of that do I lose?
    Is it possible to get longer X extrusions and leadscrew?
    I'd like it to mill the 48" piece that the Journeyman X-50 can. On the X axis, not tilling.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hi Village! I've got a little surprise for you. But first, I'll respond to your comment. Thanks for the tip about inserting the nuts. Great idea. I'll get this passed on.
      I get your concern for the size thing and printed parts. There are pros and cons. The major pro is design mods are much less expensive. But overall, I was not bothered with the printed part after if was built.
      You lose about 1.5" of travel with the dust sgoe vracket. So that hurts just a tad. Fortunately, we rarely use the full size of the machine. But...and you're gonna like this...
      Longmill is currently working on a bigger machine. I have been asked to test it. I expect it will be available in the next couple months. I don't know the specifics yet but I have seen the design. Very cool, and kept with the Longmill tradition of designing with smarts. So stand by...

    • @villageidiot8718
      @villageidiot8718 2 года назад +1

      @@IDCWoodcraft That's great news. I look forward to seeing what they come out with. I hate it when I buy something and a short while later find there's another model I'd be happier with.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      @@villageidiot8718 I agree. Hang on because I haven't received the beta test unit yet

    • @villageidiot8718
      @villageidiot8718 2 года назад

      @@IDCWoodcraft Understood

  • @javieruriel
    @javieruriel Год назад +1

    i amconsidering to get one of this but are those printed pieces? i mean the rigid pastic.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  Год назад

      Frank, this version used a few 3d printed parts but the upgraded version, the MK2, took favor towards using metal parts to replace them. It is now a lot more rigid! Here is a link: sienci.com/product/longmill-mk2/?ref=IDCWOODCRAFT

  • @daviddickmeyer5231
    @daviddickmeyer5231 3 года назад +1

    So Garrett, are you telling me that I after all my studying which one I wanted, that ordering the Onefinity was a mistake? I was not aware of the Longmill at the time. And I still haven't received the Onefinity, but it is scheduled to ship this week.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад +1

      No David, the Onefinity is an excellent machine. Longmill is still gaining awareness. and will be a serious contender.

    • @daviddickmeyer5231
      @daviddickmeyer5231 3 года назад +1

      @@IDCWoodcraft thanks Garrett, I picked the Onefinity because I don’t care for exposed rollers and also the ball screw drive. A good friend has one and has had great luck with it. He’s also a good teacher, so I hope to hit the ground running when mine finally arrives. And I’ve also ordered the heavy duty x axis option.
      Thanks for sharing your knowledge thru your videos. You can tell you’ve been at this for a while. Very professionally executed!

  • @_Tobit
    @_Tobit 2 года назад +1

    Hi, this is the MK1 right? The new one has other rails it seems. I could by this used unboxed but not sure if I should go for the MK2 instead.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      The MK2 is an improved version. I'm getting mine shortly. I'll do a review on it but it will be about a month before I do it

  • @InTheLab3d
    @InTheLab3d 3 года назад +1

    What Top CNC list do you reference? there are dozens, and they are all subjective... I agree this is a heck of a lot better machine than like xcarve or shapoko, so it very well may be one of the better ones... Just curious where you got that info. thanks

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hi Ryan. I determine the top 4 by popularity. There are many metrics but the best is taking note of user groups, size, engagement, etc.
      The other 3 are Shapeoko, Onefinity and X-carve

    • @InTheLab3d
      @InTheLab3d 3 года назад

      @@IDCWoodcraft Popularity, probably accurate in those numbers. Belts and wheels, no stinking way.. Onefinity is a tank compared to all three you mention, but half the price for the longmill vs onefinity has to be taken in to consideration for sure. thanks again PS and the lead time for the 1F is months.. thats unfortunate. my guess is many more would want to buy if they could get it sooner

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      @@InTheLab3d onefinity is definitely a good machine and was hard to have to take off the list. It's not just about the 'now' it is also about where companies are going in the future.

  • @jerryjcsouthernwooddesign7086
    @jerryjcsouthernwooddesign7086 3 года назад +1

    Curious on why you use UGS instead of G Sender while doing the demo ? It also looked like you used a different dust boot compared to the one you demonstrated in the video. Is there a reason for this?

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Good eye. The dust collector I was using is when I built to deflect the downblast from the router, while at the same time, I can film the cuts.
      Regarding universal G-Code sender, I have been in the process of transitioning. The only reason it was in some of the videos is because my computer is so old, it's having an issue.

  • @cgswss
    @cgswss 3 года назад

    Fantastic review! Have been trying To decide between a few different CNC, now I made up my mind! Couple things you might have mentioned… one other reason the long mill is less expensive is the exchange rate on the US dollar. Also, for those of us that have 3D printers, they give you enough in the replacement parts that we could 3d print replacement parts on your own and not have to wait for a shipment. Might also mention that all the this is “open source”
    Loved the testing and the little ride you took. Might think about showing a completed project. I would love to see your flag/eagle project done on the long mill.
    Would love to see you test the bits that they sell with the long mill.
    I wanted to order your surfacing bit, but the discount code doesn’t seem to work. (I am planing on ordering the starter set tomorrow after I pay on my CC.)

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hi Craig. I think I'll go ahead and make that flag.
      I sell my own bits so will not test theirs. Speacking of bits, the surfacing bit code is "surfacing bit"
      Regarding all the other things you mentioned. It is hard to cover every detail. This took 3 days of scripting, many rehersals and retakes.
      Despite 7 solid days of working on this single video, I still see things I miss after I'm done. That's just life.

  • @jacquesbouchard8884
    @jacquesbouchard8884 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for this excellent video with good quality information! This gave me all I need to know to make a good machine choice !! Thanks!

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      I'm very glad to hear that. That's what I wanted to get across in this video, to help people make the best possible decision with the best knowledge they can have!
      What machine have you been eyeballing?

    • @jacquesbouchard8884
      @jacquesbouchard8884 3 года назад +1

      @@IDCWoodcraftI looked for the shapeoko, was very interrested by tho Onefinity. Just ordered my Longmill, but I saw after the fact that you had a link to get a little return... sorry for that.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад +1

      @@jacquesbouchard8884 Regardless, I am doing the happy dance for you because you are stepping into this amazing world of creating. Wait till I release the inlay video. You'll want to make inlays all day long.
      Regarding longmill, just drop them an email and tell them what you said here. Maybe they will accommodate the affiliate.

    • @jacquesbouchard8884
      @jacquesbouchard8884 3 года назад +1

      @@IDCWoodcraft OK I'll do this.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад +1

      @@jacquesbouchard8884 thank you

  • @JasperTielen
    @JasperTielen 3 года назад +1

    Nice review, not an expensive machine. To me I see some downsides that don't make it a upgrade for my 6040 Chinese cnc which I did upgrade the controller for because they sold it with an illegal copy of someone.
    Like mentioned before, the Y rails should be facing the other way imo to not catch all the chips.
    You mentioned support is very important, in the end I noticed that you didn't use it, Why is it so important and then not use it?
    I know, you could and they would have sent you the replacement parts.
    Last, it's strong and can hold a big guy on top. Though using 3d printed parts?
    I'd like to see the accuracy test once you have the limit switches installed because it does look like a nice machine. Meaning, home go to G0X29Y29 make a mark, home and repeat a few times.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      Hi Jasper. There are always areas for improvement. I didn't use the support because I didn't need it. I could solve the issue myself. We can always find things wrong and I made not of the weaknesses.
      As I said, I already did accuracy. I did not do repeatability so will do that. Thanks and happy CNC'ing.

  • @louisdeschamps3430
    @louisdeschamps3430 10 месяцев назад

    Very interested in buying this ,as soon as possible .

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  10 месяцев назад

      LouisDesChamps, right on brother! Welcome to the wonderful world of CNC

  • @darrylelvey1251
    @darrylelvey1251 2 года назад +1

    hi Garrett im Darryl enjoy your shows im thinking of a long mill im wondering a nd its probly a stupid question. but can you down load a picture say from your own photos as in family photos and 3D it on the long mill

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Hi Darryl, you sure can brother! You will need Vetric V carve aspire to create 3D files from a picture. There is also a feature in Vetric call photo vCarve that might work really well for you too and it comes in Vcarve desktop. Try it out!

  • @ElCidPhysics90
    @ElCidPhysics90 Год назад +1

    How do you ensure the y rails are parallel to each other? Do they have specific instructions?

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  Год назад +1

      ElCidPhysics, they do have specific instructions on this one brother. Here is a link: resources.sienci.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/LongMill-Assembly-Manual-V2.pdf
      Take a look at page 98 and up brother!

    • @ElCidPhysics90
      @ElCidPhysics90 Год назад

      @@IDCWoodcraft thank you, sir.

  • @Zaizaizo
    @Zaizaizo 2 года назад +1

    Great video! Thank you very much

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Abdellatif, glad I could help my friend!

  • @shughes599
    @shughes599 2 года назад +1

    Wow, so in depth. I might have the wife convinced.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      It's a wonderful hobby and potential business.
      Let me know!

  • @nathanmartin6002
    @nathanmartin6002 2 года назад +1

    I think it's a great idea on getting this machine

    • @nathanmartin6002
      @nathanmartin6002 2 года назад +1

      I see there design and it's really smart

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Nathan, it's always treated me well brother!

  • @mikealvarado4218
    @mikealvarado4218 3 года назад +2

    Great video Garrett, I was wondering if you looked at the Onefinity cnc machine? It looks like it would be the easiest to put together. literally in about 20 min I seen on reviews. and it doesn't have any belts that drive the movements. whats your take on e the machine if you reviewed it? or any of your followers that might have input. Thanks Mike

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад +1

      The Onefinity is a good machine from what I researched. I cannot explain much more since I did not lay my hands onit.

  • @thomasash743
    @thomasash743 Год назад +1

    Can you purchase a 80mm router holder for like a DeWalt router or a 80mm spindle?

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  Год назад +1

      Thomas, you sure can brother! Here is the link: sienci.com/product/router-mount-for-longmill-benchtop-cnc/

    • @thomasash743
      @thomasash743 Год назад +1

      @@IDCWoodcraft Thanks !

  • @master-gbig1140
    @master-gbig1140 2 года назад +1

    Dude, I am sold! It is the way to go.". I don't know if it can cut 3/8th" aluminum, but if so, then it will be fun to have it for everything else. And I might still get the CNC Plasma cutter anyway. Thanks for the video brother. Thumbs up, like & Subscribe.

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  2 года назад

      Im really happy you liked this video Master G! Let me know what you decide and how it turns out for your project brother!

  • @Jeff-wd5ql
    @Jeff-wd5ql 3 года назад +1

    What do you think about the CarveWright machine?

    • @IDCWoodcraft
      @IDCWoodcraft  3 года назад

      I considered it when I first got into CNC routers. Opted not because it was limiting on size for many projects I would want to do.
      Neat idea but I see a lack of control of the machine.