Oxalates Explained- Absorb More Minerals & Reduce Kidney Stone Risk
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Oxalates Explained- Absorb More Minerals & Reduce Kidney Stone Risk - Thomas DeLauer
Oxalic acid (or oxalate) is a compound found in plants that is considered an antinutrient as it can bind to minerals and hinder their absorption
Your liver can actually produce oxalate on its own in small amounts and vitamin C can also be converted into oxalate when it's metabolized
The role of oxalates (in plants) is to provide protection for plants against predators - everything from harmful bacteria to insects, animals, and even humans
In high enough concentrations, they could make you sick; however, this is extremely unlikely with the most common condition associated with excessive oxalates in the diet is kidney stones
Oxalates & Kidney Stones
Oxalates bind to calcium during digestion in the stomach and intestines and leave the body in stool - that which is not bound to calcium travels as a waste product from the blood to the kidneys where it leaves the body in the urine
Additionally, if there is too much oxalate and too little liquid in the urine, calcium oxalate fragments create - as the crystals begin to increase in number, they stick to one another to form a larger crystal aka kidney stone
Note:
Your body also produces oxalates on its own, in the liver - no one knows just yet why this is, but one theory is that oxalates act as chelators
2 Main Factors
Increase Calcium Intake
Low amounts of calcium in your diet will increase your chances of forming calcium oxalate kidney stones.
Many people are afraid to eat calcium because of the name "calcium oxalate stones."
However, calcium binds oxalate in the intestines - a diet rich in calcium helps reduce the amount of oxalate being absorbed by your body, so stones are less likely to form
Increase Pro & Prebiotic Intake
Oxalate in humans can be eliminated through (1) excretion in urine, (2) forming insoluble calcium oxalate and elimination in feces, or (3) oxalate degradation by gastrointestinal (GIT) microorganisms
Some of the oxalate you eat can be broken down by bacteria in the gut, which happens before it can bind to minerals
Studies have found that people with a non-diverse gut bacteria seem to have an increased risk of developing kidney stones
The most commonly described intestinal bacteria known to degrade oxalate are strains of Bifidobacterium and Lactobacillus
These oxalate-degrading bacteria express the catabolic enzymes formyl-CoA transferase (Frc) and oxalyl-CoA decarboxylase (Oxc) that degrade oxalates
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Was eating spinach damn near every day and almonds every other day. Started developing back pain around the kidney. Stopped eating both and started drinking more lemon water and the pain has gotten tremendously better.
That's what I'm saying. As soon as I stopped eating my veggies all together, I started to see considerable improvements, accompanied with diatomaceous earth food-grade and high quality CBD oil.
Same here.
Me too , I had such bad kidney pain after eating all that almond flower recipes and spinach. Got off all high oxalate foods and feel so much better. Not everyone is the same.
Same! Except I ended up almost in the ICUA From oxalate poisoning. So much better now that the stone was removed and on low oxalate diet
That is real science! oxalates are crystals that are sharp the injure cells, connective tissue and glands and nerves.
I genuinely don't even know what to eat anymore
Fr Im trying to create a diet and everything I think is good is just bad or not good for a everyday diet
Eat healthy, just eat in portions/moderations.
Carnivore
I agree. It's so frustrating.
@@GottaGloUp1Day There are many veggies that is low in oxalates such as romaine, cabbage, cauliflower, bok choy, squash, pumkins, radish etc
I was trying to be vegetarian doing keto. I couldn't have dairy cause of breast feeding issues also. So my diet was alot of greens, eggs, almonds. Used to cook with almonds flour alot! >well my back was always hurting in my kidney area after I gave birth and didnt know why until I had a 104.5 fever and almost ended up in ICU due to oxalate poisoning and a kidney stone that was stuck. No the kidney doctor didnt mention once about dietary needs on changing... I found it myself... and now I've been on low oxalate diet for 3 weeks. No more kidney pain, inflammation is down, broke my stall in weight and my breast milk has boosted!
Almonds contain alot of Oxalate and Calcium, they are prone to causing Kidney stones and joint pain more than anyother plant food
How has it been going since?
Have had chronic bladder pain (IC) for a year and a half. There is no cure. Have tried many remedies with little effect. Started learning about oxalates recently, here on youtube. Just cutting back on some of these foods is helping tremendously. I finally have some hope.
Pray in Jesus name for your pain , that is the cure
I've had the same problem! And was drinking juices with lots of spinach and also drinking lots of almond milk, and started feeling horrible!
I had this but I used calcium citrate to soothe the bladder problem or you can keep eating hogh oxalate greens but add some form of calcium food like cottage cheese
Might have been Chronic Pelvic Pain syndrome. Research it
@@TheBroLounge; Unfortunately the word ‘syndrome’ suggests it’s just telling you what your symptoms are rather than getting to the cause.
I was eating a pound of spinach a week, raw. Plus a couple handful of walnut halves a day, plus almond butter on my celery. Also doing keto and intermittent fasting, plus 6 minutes of intense exercise a day. I'm 67. I had a very slight dizziness some of the time. I quit all high oxalate food, and right away the dizziness ended. I will be very careful to minimize(or avoiding) high oxalate foods. That is my experience.
Pound of spinach and multiple handfuls of walnut is definitely way too much but good thing you caught it sooner than later.
If you still want to consume foods like walnuts and spinach there are several ways to reduce the oxalates. You can boil spinach or soak walnuts in water. That will reduce oxalates by a lot. Hope I helped and good luck!
Thank you !!! Thanks for the great advice.
@@Fujiwararoman4214There’s actually a lot of reasons why you’d wanna eat nuts on a daily basis, among others the fact that they’re high in minerals, fiber and glycine
pound of spinach a week is too much? Here I was planning on half a pound everyday lol. I need to rethink my diet
@@Kartik-tx1bc lets use moderation. I think that avoiding processed and junk food plus moderate exercise plus avoid high carb and sugar and maintain a low stress life. I use grass fed meat plus wild caught fish. Avoiding sugar is very important.
The nature of oxalates is complicated and often not fully accurately represented. The body can make Oxalate endogenously as a result of excess sugar as a biproduct of glycolysis, the glycolytic enzymes and subsequent enzymes that interact with glucose, pyruvate and acetate can effectively create Oxalate from Vitamin C as it is molecularly similar to glucose.
the metabolites of Oxalates like methylglyoxal are typically broken down by enzymes produced as a biproduct of glycolysis like glyoxalase and can be broken down by glutathione and harmlessly excreted, or they can ultimately contribute to AGEs or Advanced Glycation End products that have been implicated in contributing to several metabolic diseases.
Most dietary oxalates will bind to calcium in the gut, if you've eaten enough calcium to bind to all of the oxalates, and will not absorb through the intestine. However, people have been hospitalized and even have died from oxalate toxicity after eating things like Rhubarb, Sorrel soup etc. When oxalate crystals deposit in the tissues of the body it's called oxalosis, and it can cause more oxidative stress and damage, and of course calcium oxalate deposits in the kidneys are also known as kidney stones.
The reasons why some people tolerate oxalates better and some are hypersensitive are not fully understood. It's likely multifactorial: The diet is deficient in calcium to prevent oxalate absorption in the gut, their diet is high in carbohydrates and they're producing more endogenous oxalate than normal, they have altered genetic expression and lack sufficient enzyme production to break down the oxalates, they're deficient in magnesium and vitamin D so they have excess free-floating calcium in the blood for the oxalates to bind to, they're deficient in glutathione because of certain medications and things that deplete the body of antioxidants like high fructose diets, smoking, drinking etc.
It has been suggested that the benefits of Manuka Honey are due in large part to the naturally high occurring methylglyoxal content of honey from the manuka flower. the proposed mechanism of action is that this potentially toxic oxalate metabolite is tolerated by healthy cells and not by unhealthy cells, or by pathogens like certain bacteria that take up the methylglyoxal and lack the enzymes to neutralize it and can kill those defective cells or pathogens. A similar mechanism is proposed behind the claims that ESSIAC tea can fight cancer. All of it's ingredients are very high in oxalate content.
So when you see people arguing about are Oxalates good or bad for you, the answer is not as simple as yes or no, but potentially both depending on certain dietary, lifestyle, and genetic factors as well as your overall metabolic health.
source??
Cool response. I feel smarter :)
I did the Gaps diet and consumed daily a diet rich in kale, spinach, mustard leaf and so on. But in slow, very long cooked broths super high in collagen. . Never had an issue.
all I can say is we are all different, but mostly, i guess, doesn't have a problem with foods that carnivors and ketos tell bad. \(😕)/
beware of the logic "I've never had a problem," or "I've never had an issue." because many of these things are chronic conditions which take years and decades to manifest. Nothing is ever a problem... until it is.
people think "I've never had a heart attack therefore I don't have cardiovascular disease..." but cardiovascular disease doesn't start with a heart attack, it ends with one, and by the time you've had one it's taken years or decades to finally culminate in a potentially lethal event.
type 2 diabetes also doesn't start with the failure of the beta cells in the pancreas and being dependent on exogenous insulin, that's end stage diabetes. It takes years of damage that we ignore the symptoms and telltale warning signs and shrug them off as no big deal, or mistake them for being different problems of their own.
kidney stones can form over years and decades before they're problematic and people think it's something that JUST happened, "I've never had a kidney stone before," well just because you never had one break loose and damage the kidney, obstruct and damage the urinary tract, the bladder, urethra, etc. doesn't mean you're not forming stones...
so be careful with that very vague and generalized logic based on the casual observation that since you don't yet have end stage diseases and conditions therefore you don't have a problem.
it's also a failure of logic to think the body's mechanisms to maintain homeostasis will just take care of it. if that was the case we would be able to drink unlimited amounts of alcohol, eat unlimited amounts of carbohydrates and not get diabetes, fatty liver cirrhosis... but you all know that's not the case.
the liver does produce gluconeogenesis enzymes to convert certain amino acids into glucose, but this is a survival mechanism, not a homeostasis mechanism, and it's metabolically expensive. for that reason, the body only does this when there is a demand for energy. glucagon is the hormone that signals for gluconeogenesis, however it also signals for the production of lipolytic enzymes that break down the body's stored fat and then the liver converts those into ketones for energy, which is much more energy efficient than Gluconeogenesis, and the presence of the activated fatty acids in the liver turns off the production of Gluconeogenesis enzymes.
this is why you see people who do extended fasting, in the beginning there is a period of gluconeogenesis and a small amount of muscle wasting, but once ketosis starts, it actually preserves the muscles or is muscle sparing.
people think of the body too simplistically, like it's a computer where if I push this button and it does that. Rather, the entire body and all of its systems are driven by hormones and enzymes that are more like a game of mousetrap or one of those elaborate setups of dominos that starts with tipping over one domino and results in a complex chain reaction in order to achieve an end result...
think of nutrient deficiency like missing some dominos in there, toxicity like having a bunch of random dominos where they don't belong, obesity like have a ton of excess dominos that you don't know what to do with, and genetic mutations like parts of the domino setup have been moved around and don't fall in the sequence...
this is also a simplistic analogy, because think of this one elaborate domino setup, then realize your body has many, many of these happening simultaneously that are all interconnected at crucial junctions... but it's a step in the right direction for people to get them appreciating the complexity of the body and it's processes and systems, and why proper health and nutrition require a holistic approach, and certainly much more consideration than people give it based on their observation.
A year and a half on strict Keto (eating my dark greens and moderate protein) for one autoimmune disease, off meds for that in 3 months. On methotrexate for my RA still. Manage to taper off a wee bit, but extreme pain in my hands when I tried to go below 12.5mg. After several months of attempts to taper off I began carnivore. After 1 month of carnivore I tried tapering again and was off methotrexate in 2 weeks, no problems. Another week and I had a small kale salad 2 days in a row just to see what happens, 2nd day extreme pain in my hands. Back on carnivore. After another week I tried again, maybe it was just a coincidence, pain returns. So I stay carnivore another couple of months, had an extreme rash for several months, then it disappeared. I've since been able to eat a bit of green veggie but I remain very heavy meat Keto and remain pain free and off all medication.
Valuable info thanks.
Noted butternut very very healthy. Low oxalates I think. I eat a lot daily. Also love my daily macadamia. Also avos
Are these low ox foods ok in your opinion? Everyone just talks about greens...
@@contrarian717 Macadamia nuts are low in oxalates, and butternut squash is one to avoid. Unfortunately there is not one comprehensive list that I've found, sallyknorton.com/?s=oxalate+list
@@richardmathews8250 thanks!
What other foods do you eat besides meats and say nuts ? Im Curious
@@JosePerez-yk2px , Meat, sardines, and a few low carb veggies, broccoli, cauliflower or asparagus. Most veggies and nuts have oxalates so I eat mostly meat.
The problem is not simply the chelation of minerals. The problem is chronic accumulation of oxalate in the extracellular space and intracellular compartment.
This takes place over long periods of time and is not immediately perceived. Hence, oxalate accumulation is an insidious process which eventually can culminate in a variety of chronic health conditions which often involve pain.
Mineral chelation is primarily an issue once someone has adopted a low oxalate diet and is dumping heavily into the blood.
Also, there is no evidence of beneficial roles of oxalate in biochemistry. It is a waste product which is generated endogenously in small amounts, but in higher amounts under conditions of oxidative stress and nutritional deficiency. It is misleading to suggest that endogenous oxalate production might play beneficial roles, as this is not consistent with any existing literature
Do not eat spinach. Think about how much I was misled by all kinds of "health experts and doctors" and how sick I was , I am mad.
@DaddyGirl spinach literally has 40x more oxalate than kale
spinach is high in calcium so it cancels out
Popeye lied.
@@hitlard5305 Unfortunately the research doesn’t show that. Two studies done in 1939 with rats having 8% of their diet as spinach compared to other groups without the spinach demonstrated the rats that ate spinach had retarded growth, uncalcified Dentine in their teeth, weak and thinning bones, infertility and death.
@@michael_mathieu_vibrant_health I believe we are different than rats
Not all leafy greens are high in oxalates. Just certain ones like spinach and chard. Also, many women are not getting enough iron, so that is not really the problem of iron chelation--it's about the absorption of iron which is more readily absorbed from animal foods. And from what I have read, chelation aside, it's the physical structure of the oxalate that causes damage--that they are essentially non-soluble sharp, dagger-shaped crystals that damage cell tissue and the gut lining.
This. As a female who still has regular periods, I’ve been iron deficient for years and no supplements have helped. I am pretty positive that the mass amounts of spinach, sweet potatoes, almonds, almond butter, peanut butter, and white flour I ate as a vegetarian definitely inhibited the absorption of iron into my system!
Over consumption of Nuts on Keto is a very real issue. . . And you can only consume a small serving of fermented foods without developing other issues... .
Straight to the point very informative. Thank you sir
It's an interesting thing... Your Liver produces Oxalates in the same manner that it creates Carbs for your body. You don't need to take in exogenous sources in order to have your body regulate balances/ratios of certain components. The body has so many mechanisms for maintaining homeostasis. I don't think the logic of "your Liver produces it, therefore it's good for you" is correct. Your Liver does it for a purpose. If you just start taking in exogenous sources of oxalates, it would be the same thing as eating a bunch of Rice for a source of Carbs, instead of relying on your Liver to produce it.
You don't need to have a certain amount of veggies every single day, like what is most commonly recommended.
Ares Onasis great comment
BINGO!
Where are you getting your vitamins from? Meat?
So what would you do if somebody has a liver condition and can't seduce oxalates that well or carbs which is called glycogeonetics ?
@@stevepimentel237 Pointing to an extreme isn't a proper argument for anything. There are people who's skin falls off when it comes into contact with water... Are you going to tell people to avoid showers?
Obviously if you can't produce oxalates on your own, you need exogenous sources. But I tried to look up that condition, and nothing came up.
Thank you so much !! I’m glad I discovered this channel. I had an issue with kidney stones 3 years ago and it was not a happy thing at all. The pain was unbearable.
are you on a low oxalate diet after that?
The problem with asking us to consume pickled stuff is a lot of people with oxalate issues have histamine issues as a result of the oxalates, so what to do then?
I think people should be concerned about the sodium in pickled food.
I quit eating my VERY green smoothies about 10 days ago, and the pain I have suffered in my joints for two years went away like a miracle. My smoothies were Collards, spinach, kale, raspberries....I will never eat Spinach or Collard greens again!
Oh no!
You should def eat those greens! Just eat more fruit too.
Don't listen to them. Don't eat those things again. I used to eat them and would have unbearable stomach pain. Listen to your body.
I was keto for 9 months and had a lot of improvement in my health, but nothing completely resolved. I went carnivore and I'm having tremendous success.
I’m a 34 year old male, who is vegan, and I just recently learned a bit about oxalates and what they do. This was a very helpful video that allowed me to reaffirm what I already suspected. Which is to moderate things. I thought that the more spinach or anything else I put into my body was only helping. This really helped put me at ease. So thank you for this informational video.
instead of being vegan, try keto. Much healthier
I was torn between keto or low fat plant based diet because I think they're both healthy. I was eating high fat high carb but actually moderation I think is key. I'll start with eating more whole foods instead of a bunch of process junk. MODERATION!!!
I'm not sure I learned anything about how to treat this food, as usual here. You often give lots of technical data, but little usable advice. (In my opinion, of course)
What is "in moderarion" in a measurable amount?
I take it to mean "not every day, only once a week or so"
Would you eat mercury in a moderate amount or a little round-up? High oxalate foods are toxic and they make you very sick... Never eat them! I know because I ate a ton of them when I was juicing and eating almonds and peanut butter. "Anything in moderation"does not apply to oxalates.
Linda Bell 👏🏼👏🏼 I agree
Kenneth Sundby just watch a video with Susan Owens on RUclips and simply avoid foods high in oxalate
Every one is different so you have to find what works best for you(in moderation) I think.. or just go to a nutritionist. 👍🏼
Pretty wishy-washy. Not one word about what "in moderation" means in regard of spinach consumption.
moderation means not everyday and boil the spinach to lower the oxalates.
There is no moderation with spinach if 1/2 cup cooked is 600+mg of oxalates.
@@Lindsey_Burrow yeah you are right 👍 I just listen another lecture and she Said that only six picies of baby spinach is enough , so it's very high in oxalates.
@@annamaria1972 my husband has this issue. We went to a restaurant and he ordered a soup and he didn’t ask if there was spinach in it. He took a couple bites and was in a flare up for 4-6 weeks! He had terrible gut pain -so much so that he wanted to go to the hospital and then he broke out in a rash/hives that lasted around 5 weeks. All his joint pain flared up as well.
When he was young, his grandma used to make rhubarb pies. Rhubarb is up there with spinach. He had lots of urinary issues when he was young and joint pain from a very young age. So crazy
@@Lindsey_Burrow It means he must be very strict with His diet . I have mostly gut problems but also some rashes on my hands, armpits. And some joint issues . I want to get rid of oxalates from my body but it take time .
I had 2 kidney stone attacks about 12 years ago 2 weeks apart, I was aware of oxalates but ate many of them anyway. The main thing that helped me was water. I can't find a comprehensive list, I still can't find any one to agree if kale is high or low. Nice video. Thanks
About Kale. Check this video: ruclips.net/video/KtgyJ--X61g/видео.html
You will not want to eat vegetables after that...
YES! I saw a list with kale as high oxalate- another said it was low!? I’ve eliminated spinach and now eat Romain lettuce, arugula, cabbage, broccoli and kale. Kale works pretty good as a spinach substitute if you cut it small and let it rest, but is it ok for us stone makers? Who has the best, most accurate list of what you CAN eat. 😢
@@DianaHylandTX You CAN safely eat meat, eggs, milk-based products and fish that contain a small amount of heavy metals in daily bases.
@@godnyx117 but my question is about Kale. I don’t want to eat all that meat and saturated fat.
@@DianaHylandTX Oh, sorry! I thought you talked about what you can eat in general. When it comes to Kale, watch this video:
ruclips.net/video/KtgyJ--X61g/видео.html
I don't remember the part exactly but it will give you an idea.
Thank you for the clarification Sir 👍. This one saved me a lot. Keep doing your great work
The lemon water thing is true, at least for me it was. I drank 2 glasses a day when I had a kidney stone and within 3 days of starting that the stone passed easily. Doesn't sound like Thomas has had a kidney stone, but maybe I'm wrong.
"there isn't a campaign against alcohol like there is against oxalates" evidently, you didn't grow up Baptist...lucky fellow
A lot do better with alcohol than oxylates...
LOLOLOL!
A lot more people know that drinking is bad for you than oxalates are bad for you... There isn't a campaign against alcohol? Has he heard of AA?
Growing up Baptist is a blessing.
@@firmbeliever3847exactly, ignorant OP. Believe in Jesus Christ for Eternal Life.
He talks Sooooo much sense. One of only 3 people on you tube who are worth listening to.
Yes. I love this video. I also enjoy listening to dr Gundry and dr Cywes.
Really? Is this guy in your top 3? Then you haven’t been looking very well. There are actual scientists on RUclips you know who actually do science and who don’t just pick one power that matches the point they’re trying to make but that look at the whole literature
I just found your video (releases 9 months ago) on 7 worst veggies, that explains you don’t actually get the amount of iron from spinach as previously thought; and it does more harm than good.
Hey Thomas, could you talk about the health advantages to sprouting grains, nuts & seeds vs any health risk of eating unsprouted?
Also, does coffee have antinutrients?
I've just looked up the tea/coffee thing and apparently tea is high and coffee low in oxalates.
Its all about having a well balanced diet, I sure wont be stopping my consumption of spinach anytime soon and I think some people worry a little too much about a problem that they don't have, you could analyse most healthy foods and there is nearly always some negative aspect to it, some people eat lots of salmon But OMG! WHAT ABOUT THE MERCURY!!!! So people eat wild caught salmon but that still has Mercury in it? My point being you could go on and on and eventually drive yourself nuts! Will any of our lifestyle choices ever be perfect?? I doubt that, a little lemon and ACV its all good...
Oxalates salts can form anywhere not just kidneys. But the oxalate crystal shape is another major issue.
Brussels sprouts, cabbage, broccoli are low in oxalates.
Wonder if that’s true or how do we really find out if this is true.
Could you please do a video on Arginine containing foods and how they can slow weight loss and may cause weight gain? Thank you, Thomas!
I had oxalates before going vegan , now I eat plant based , just a few weeks so far I am wondering what my next urine check will look like. My doc gave me potassium citrate pills to lower the oxalates. He said cut down on the leafy greens , I said what ? What’s left to eat ? Can’t eat the junk , can’t eat the greens , he said keep eating the greens take an extra pill. Whatever !
I am starting plant based diet but I starting to think it may be best to take whatever pills the doc can give you and hope for hitting 75, my grandparents all lived into their 80’amd 90’s and ate Mediterranean diets and never went to the gym!
What animal-based foods are you open to?
Plant based is retarded. Take it from a 3 year vegan who just polished off steak and eggs.
Sally Norton, the oxalate expert, is on carnivore diet. I think it says something.
Oxalate Poisoning & Dumping : Why YOU Should Care with Elliot Overton PART 1
ruclips.net/video/RdFOSBwFTaM/видео.html
I have worked with Sally! She is brilliant! Honestly it is not true "what doesn't kill us makes us stronger! " People have actually died from eating too many oxalates.
Love Sally! At 65, I am dumping no oxalates, so they are no joke.
Sally rocks!
@@lindabell6954 yeah whereas nobody ever dies from eating too much meat 🤦♂️
THANK YOU for answering my question Thomas. Helpful
2:18 had me at the edge of my seat. Glad only the orange was sliced.
Hi Thomas just as some say we should limit oxalates, some say we should limit deuterium. You may consider a video on that topic. Thank you.
Great info! Thank you 🙏🏻
If I can split hairs and be "that guy" for a moment. Pickled and fermented are 2 different things. Cucumbers are pickled and have no probiotics. olives and sauerkraut are both fermented.
Cucumbers can also be fermented..
@@daijanestokazem Yes. Your comment might have been more helpful if you'd included the following information.
If they are refrigerated, they are fermented.
If they are on the shelf next to the mustard, they are pickled and don't have the probiotics.
Vinegar = pickled
--Vinegar-- = fermented
That was a highly informative video Thomas, thank you so much! More of these please... ;-)
Great video! Especially, your point with the microbiome. The same is true for many other things like polyphenols. Studies show that we only benefit from the intake of certain polyphenols once they have been converted by our microbiome.
This is why plant based foods are not first choice foods, they are loaded with anti-nutrients like Oxalates. Plant based foods are also a source of phytates, these also chelate minerals and reduce their absorption. All sorts of traditional food processing methods were developed to reduce anti-nutrient levels in plant foods, like fermenting, sprouting, soaking etc. Unfortunately these methods have been forgotten, and people eat these foods in an unprocessed form, this is detrimental to nutrient status. Animal products are so beneficial to health because they do not contain these anti-nutrients, and they are nutrient dense, this is why they are first choice foods!
Nutritional Logic well said 👍🏻
nutritional logic, some experts are now saying that we should all stay away from veggies that contain "lectins". Because they cause bloating, digestion problems, and other health ailments. there are a lot of vegetables that contain this lectins compound. I also wonder if steaming or cooking lightly spinach and other high oxylates containing greens and veggies actually lessens the amount of lectins released when we eat them. Jean.
Nutritional Logic You know homo sapiens evolved at eating 100 grams of fiber a day including anti nutrients?
@@AMDG_-nk2dp Yes, according to research cooking should lower levels of oxalates, however boiling vegetables appears to be the most effective method. Steaming should lower the levels somewhat. Soaking, and boiling lowers levels of the anti-nutrient lectins and enzymes inhibitors, in things like beans for example.
Vegans reading this with smoke coming out of ears lol
Here learning more than I did from my urologist about oxalates salts and my issue, calcium oxalate, causing chronic kidney stones.. thank you!!
Question: would oxalates be affecting menopausal autoimmune intermittent-fasting- regimen woman who at the same time is confined to sitting? 1 green salad and 1 green smoothie daily with plenty of water. And by the way never had 3-month-looking bloating issues before age 50. Curretly take ACV 2X daily and bone broth too. Sounds complicating - I know. Help..suggestions !?
Oxalate degrading bacteria in our gut can die from antibiotics and is hard to get back in it seems. For example oxalobacter formigenes. Susan Owens stated in a recent interview that some bacteria in the gut need some kind of "buddy" to survive better so you would also have to get those "buddies" into your system again...
Hey Thomas! Could you make an updated video on oxalate poisoning, I’ve been seeing a lot more of people talking about this and would like to see what research you can find on this. Would really appreciate it!
Check out Sally K Norton - she is excellent on oxalates.
was thinking the same thing, honestly I see people around me going on carnivore with fruit now and they are eating like 500+ grams of fruit every day. Like 3 apples a mango and so on and I'm like.. siigh.. so you stop eating vegetables because of oxalates even though fruit has oxalates too lulz and they just switch to eating a ton of fruit. Guess what happens when the liver says oh wait I'm done accepting fructose after an apple and you eat more apples, it becomes fat lol. And I don't even wanna know what kind of blood glucose these people have or how hungry they must be all the time and how they can't use energy properly anymore. What a shitshow.
@@NofirstnameNolastname
Good post 👍
I have been giving blood regularly since starting keto to help clear iron. Research has been showing benefits in donating blood 2-4 times a year due to the oxidized iron clearance.
Bullox
Please try to categorize some of the foods that are less in oxalates which will certainly help
Good, procise info.
Wow!. Thanks for the information, had no idea.
Love you, Thomas, but I was eating all those high oxalate foods, especially after going Keto. I have been gluten free for over 16 yrs, Paleo for many years, went completely grain free beginning of the year, as well as Keto. At 65, I am dumping oxalates that I wish I knew about a long time ago. Went Carnivore over 4 months ago, ditched all the veggies, almond flour, almond butter, chia, dark chocolate, etc. -- and have never felt better. Oxalates are NO joke! Thank goodness for Sally Norton, as well as a neurofeedback doc I am working with, or I wouldn't have pieced together what was going on. Within in 2 days of cutting out greens (chard, dandelion greens, kale, beets greens), as well as the chia, cocao and macadamia nuts, ALL of my bloating eas gone. And, I dont have to take as much magnesium. Just proves that oxalates were my cause of never ending mineral consumption. Just can't agree with you on this one, Thomas. I think they cause more problems than people realize, and it's not just kidney stones.
I quickly read the title and thought it said “oxtails” 😂
That makes 2 of us. 🤣
3 of us
Oxtail is delicious
Very informative.
This is very interesting, because raw foodists don't get kidney issues/or stones. They typically eat a sh*t ton of green leafy veggies, especially spinach for new raw foodists, because it's very mild and non-threatening.
I agree
They tend to have digestive issues and they themselves look terrible. They age terribly.
I agree with what you are saying about people who eat raw veggies. I would like to know who these studies are done on and the people who have issues have other issues that contribute to them.
@@Bebe-or9nw I think to release the vitamins in veggies one needs to cook lightly to release the vitamins and not destroy them.
@@Bebe-or9nwnot true.look at shane sterling 50 markus rothkranz 62.eli mattyr gillian berry msfitvegan. All look amazing compared to congested carnivores.its the meateaters that get kidney stones not raw vegans. Many people say lemon water gets rid of kidney stones.yet lemons have low level oxalate.many fruit and veg have zero
I also heard candida and mold increase internal oxalate load - (because they contain oxalates, or make them?)
I take beta-glucans to try reduce this problem as I have kidney pains when I eat too many oxalates, also drinking lemon juice and potassium citrate, acv, himalayan salt mix daily.
Thomas uploading 4 vids in 2 days. Could it be even better?
Question: What about the hormone diet with Keto diet. HCT 3.0
See, we can't eat anything anymore.
Lol waa
@49jubilee no he is right we can't eat anything, whatever we eat has a side effect or effects even, just eat and enjoy life
@@TheJimmyswe150 hahahahahaha, you are right just keep eating and live a little. Little you will live. And probably not functional towards the end (absolutely no joy for the ones I have seen) before the little ends years and years before the human potential is capable of. Your advise will be well taken by 87% of the people. Consider your advise a winning one. By the way why are you here ? Duh me ! To give good counseling of course.
@@tubetime39 LOL dude calm down, iv been on the health wagon for 3 years straight while I almost quit eat anything because everything was bad for me and become very sick, it's about balance, just eat healthy no sugar it's that simple, I'm not counting fruits as those are healthy I don't care what you keto people say
@@TheJimmyswe150 Yeah bro life isnt fucking enjoyable when you find yourself in the ER all the time from kidney stones. That's the dumbest advice I've ever heard
As usual, super solid Facts!
Keep being you, brother of Men!
😎💪🏻 thank you.
I always feel better when I eat Spinach during my time of the month. Last month I ate more than I normally do and was probably why my legs ended up swollen. I was so worried but watching this video helps me realize I can continue to have spinach and other foods with oxalates just in moderation. I watched your video about Lectins and phytates and I feel so relieved that I dont have to give up those foods either. Thanks for informing the public.
So happy o saw this video because I need more explanation- moderation is key
What about lemon juice and ACV?
Please interview Sally K. Norton, Master of Public Health from Cornell University
I agree. I kinda tend to lean more towards what she says given that she has spent a lot of time researching oxalates
Good video.. Complex subject
Hey Delauer Can you please talk about COLUSTRUM supplement, thanks!
This is the best explanation about oxalates on the internet!
Can you make a video on myprotein brand of whey please...
I find a lot of contradicting articles about it.
But it's one of the few in my price range so it's the best I've got, I'm a bit worried that I might not have all the facts.
Thank you for making this video on Oxalates. 👍🏼
I consume high amounts of vitamin c due to adrenal fatigue. Could that be causing the dumping? I switched to Camu Camu and I can’t say that I saw much improvement…
What would you (or viewers) suggest to increase FRC and OXC?
Well explained
Does Apple Cider Vin also help unclog the kidneys from oxalates?
Bizzare77777 good question
Potassium citrate do. And lemon juice
Its poison
@@veryinterested4518 What do you mean? lol
@@Bizzare77777 acv is poison..
hey, can you also do an explanation of what I have heard recently. some experts are saying we should stay away from veggies that contain "lectins". because they can cause bloating, digestive problems, and other health ailments. these lectins are found in alot of so called healthy vegetables. can anyone comment if this is true?? Jean.
This made a lot more sense than the others on youtube making it sound like you are dead if you eat those foods. Thanks.
Will having a smoothie with blueberry, kale, macadamian milk with my main dinner be a problem? Should I have the smoothie first or can I drink it with food?!!!
Merci!
Oxalates are found in cashews, almonds, Brazil nuts, peanuts, and pine nuts in higher amounts than others. Keto people be aware
Any seed is not meant for human consumption its even worse than veggies for u only few like macademia or pistachip but of u donit regulary thr lectin will fuck ur intestines up real good
@@mixedmartialnutrition1746 why the language ?
You lose your credibility in your statement
Your feelings being hurt by manmade words in a manmade language makes you lose your credibility.
Yeah I don't get this. Why take in any poison at all if you can avoid it? The body has a way of getting rid of excess iron on it's own without taking in poisons
Good video. Ive cut out most veggies because of thre oxalates. Also felt bloated after eating them. Switched to keto/ Carnivore
ser keto, look also into "lectins" found in some vegetables. the so-called healthy veggies, mind you. some experts are saying to stay away from these since they cause bloating, digestive problems and other health compromises. Jean.
Ser Gabe Your gut microbiole was out of wack. You are now just avoiding your problem.
@@Crepitom Agreed. Carnivore diet doesn't resolve root cause of oxalate absorption, which can be either leathy gut, IBS or lack of enzymes that break down oxalates. Plus, carnivore diet can lead to other kind of health problems.
The best explanation on oxalates I have come across, thank you.
Oxalates will be broken down if given time! But a constant stream of oxalates will result in them bein stored around in the body and create problems given enough time!
Yes, and it gets worse when you eat a kilos (pounds, pounds and pounds) of high oxalate foods.
Thank you
Is cooking in a cast iron pan good or bad? I always thought it was good.
We get too much iron from the diet. Even more from pans is bad... leading to rust in the body. I need to upgrade my pans from cast iron and am not sure of the best option. Stainless steel is probably safest but def not non-stick. 🧐
Thanks so much, you've really helped me understand oxalates a bit better for my UNI course! 😁
I started keto 2 weeks ago and started having teeth pain. Some articles suggest is related to oxalates dumping? Any suggestion of what I could do?
It’s very possibly dumping. I see your comment was seven months ago so I’m curious how you’re doing now. If you did have an oxalate accumulation it can take years for the body to fully clear itself some people 10 years. Check out Sallie K Norton‘s website and her videos also Susan Owens and her trying low oxalate Facebook page. Was your diet high in oxalates before you went keto? And is it lower on keto?
I just had two days of tooth pain several days ago. No pain two days of pain and abruptly it went away.
@@michael_mathieu_vibrant_health Thank for asking, I will check the websites. The teeth pain subsided as I covered the exposed dentin. The pain did start after I started keto. I doubt this was a coincidence as I never had this before, even with the exposed dentin. I still don't know the exact root cause. Unfortunately, the dentist did not cover all area so I occasionally experience a light pain. I am still on keto, 2 stones lighter. The results have been great in terms of weight loss. I cannot really complain of anything really (I had some side effects like pains that I addressed with adding more salt). Hence I stopped searching about oxalates. I wish I had a bit more energy but other than that I am good.
@@diandrra1 I ended up 2 (or more stones) heavier from Keto. Kidney stones that is. I wish I had never heard of Keto.
@@reesedaniel5835 Sorry to hear. Maybe you did it wrong eating too many carbs. It definitely worked for me. I recall somewhere that is important you eat your veggies. I also used intermitted fasting in addition to keto. I also saw various websites that help you with that and create a plan for you. ketofit.life for example.
id really like to know though, is thrive going to be available in canada soon ??!
@@anitamartini8161 i guess i could but each time i receive something id have to cross the border then pass my things pay the taxes and stuff etc etc and it would take for ever
I'm unsubscribing already. Video after video there's this food that I should avoid. That on the previous video i should eat generously. Instead of me getting excited to eat it's just making me paranoid. I don't need to be thinking "binding, enzyme, oxidize, acid"
Great way to push the discussion forward. Love to see how the carnivore and low-oxalate community will respond.
Oh hey! I just asked about this in a comment on the last video!
what mushroom did he recommend?
I’m autistic and my oxalate levels came back very high from the Organic Acid Test. :(
Detox slowly... by reducing oxalate foods by 10% per week. Too fast is painful or even dangerous. Check out Susan Owens work. She is an expert in oxalates and autism. Much love.
I've read vitamin C encourages urinary excretion as well unless this is just a concequence of vitamin C increasing production.
It would be probably apt to assume anyone with leaky gut would have iron overload as well?
I have,and have had Bladder stones,not Kidney stones,but I'm hoping creating a more acidic body will help with that. That's why I take apple cider vinegar everyday,it seems to help with many issues.
Bladder stones are sometimes small kidney stones that have exited the kidney and gotten stuck in the bladder.
@@mazmahjoobi I was told by my Urologist that Bladder stones are only formed if the Bladder isn't properly emptying on a regular basis.
So you have a video on how to shrink or dissolve gallstones?
I heard that leaky gut is connected to the body accumulating too much oxalates. When the body can’t break down oxalates, they accumulate.
So how much vegetables we need to it per day ?
Thomas, I was wondering if you could share how you overcame your anxiety? I too struggle with anxiety and I know others do as well...
Melissa Crawford I’m not Thomas but I Believe if you cut your Carbs and begin doing Keto that’s a start. As a 62 year old I suffered anxiety and depression (tried suicide 4 times) for 40+ years. Since I started Keto in May last year everything has changed. No more depression, anxiety or suicide thoughts, (yes used to still have them) the clarity of mind that I have now is stunning.Wish I knew this stuff years ago, should’ve paid attention to Dr Atkins in the 70’s. Medical Profession said he was mad. I want to shout it from the roof tops and warn everyone to get off Carbs’, Sugar, Frankenfoods and all this refined rubbish (additives, dyes,sugars, chemicals). Thanks to Thomas and Dr Eric Berg I’m a new person, hope this little rant helps.Much love 💕 😘
@@MsDestinedtoReign I have noticed that carbs contribute to my anxiety. That and dairy. That's one of the reasons I'm doing keto is to help with my anxiety and to get rid of inflammation. Thank you for the tips! I appreciate them. I'll continue to press on and hopefully one day it'll be a thing of the past. 😊
@ Melissa Crawford, pardon my question but are you a control freak? And have compulsive tendencies sometimes neurotic? If so and you experience panic attacks frequently, keto is great along with understanding that YOU cannot control ANYTHING. It's strange but if you are a go getter, and get things done, a leader, CEO type, the one everyone comes to for everything...etc etc, the build up of everything you MUST do and the some even though you THRIVE and OWN the moment always, and are the steady and stoic lighthouse with answers and direction....understanding that YOU really DO NOT control the ENTIRE universe and you cannot solve every problems WILL set you free! It takes time a L O N G time to realize this once you understand the concept. BUT fear not! The panic attacks will slow and you probably all ready figured out you're not going to die, and the racing heart and tightness is not a hart attack (several trips and EKG's) later they will want to shove Paxell, or Buspar, or Lorazapam down your throat but it's when you wrap your mind around and ACCEPT the concept that we are just passing through time and our ability to control anything is insignificant. Work on keto, change your mind set and in time the anxiety will subside, that's not saying to become apathetic and uninvolved but pick the battles and things that have future importance to you, it is what it is!.........worked for me. Good luck.
Melissa Crawford smoke weed !!!
@@SkyDaLimit925 weed increases appetite dramatically. Most of us don't need that particular side effect.
Nice
Do they bind to any iron or is it just non-heme?
But fermented foods are high in histamine is that a problem?
Pickled vegetable generally have a lot of sodium which also has negative effects on the body. If one slightly boils the spinach before adding into a smoothie, then it should be okay, right?
Perhaps an inconvenient fact but there's no safe known level of alcohol consumption. There are in fact major public health campaigns worldwide to reduce alcohol-harm, largely neutralized by the industry.