Autism in Media - Drax the Destroyer
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This video is in the vein of snowpeircer being a homage to willy wonka. At first i was going to call BS. But i do have family members on the specrum and i get where you're coming from
@@gazashotshell9099 yeah I don't know about anticipating andgame that movie wasn't that good anyways you had to wait two hours just for the good parts what the f
"Good thing we have- game of thrones" Things that didn't age well 2019 edition
Y because 7, . 13 year old girls didnt like it????
Chris Koshinski
Well, it wasn’t great, was it?
@@broseidon1658 it was fantastic....
Chris Koshinski
Well, that’s your opinion. Whatever. But it wasn’t good in mine.
Nah, the end of GoT was pretty bad. From a cinematic and story-building/ending standpoint, its just bad. They turned John Snow into an actual wimp, Tyrion got way too dramatic about Bran, a definitepy great character, sure, but he made his coming about some kind of legendary thing and bloated more than Bran would ever want. Nothing about the end actually ends anything. It just kinda stops and John Snow lives the rest of his life past the wall, completely destroying his entire position as the true king. Not saying hed actually stay or want to be king, but it was the whole point of him as a character
“I, too, am extraordinarily humble.”
Favorite line ever
Huh, I never considered how similar Drax's quirks are to the quirks that people on the spectrum have. I personally find the character very lovable and hilarious, and it's cool to hear that he serves as a kind of pseudo-representation for people on the spectrum. Great video!
One of the articles shown in this video is by an MCU fan who little brother, when he went to see GotG with her, fell in love with Drax at the line about catching things trying to go over his head... As she describes it, her brother at that point turned to her and said, “He’s like me! He can’t do metaphors!” And spent the rest of the movie enraptured by Drax. She basically thanked Marvel for giving her brother a hero he could relate to, someone like him who is also a badass.
Dave Bautista saw the article, and was clearly delighted that his character connected for someone so much. I don’t think he, and perhaps even James Gunn, went in intending for Drax to be read as austistic, BUT it’s a nice bonus the character gives us.
@@borjankosarac3645 That is so sweet.
clovis569 I’m fucking tired of representation, we need good characters which he is for being a good character.
Most autistic people wanna be like Superman or spiderman
But doesn't Drax's entire race act like that. I could have sworn that's something Rocket specifically states. Either way Autism is a spectrum and If thats what Drax represents then I am glad that at least one character isn't portrayed as a super genius because reasons.
Autism may be a species thing for Drax
@@andrewpitts955 my issue with that idea is that Autism is a disorder, meaning it is medically an adnormal condition. If the entire race is that way, then it isn't abnormal for them.
@Cataclysmic Dildoser Oh god not that movie. But imagine for a sec a war with the yautjas and All of Drax's race pre thanos, that'd be a really fun film.
@Cataclysmic Dildoser I understood that reference.
Just like Professor X represents anyone who uses a wheelchair
I feel like autistic people identifying with drax is similar to how I identify with banner/stark because of my anxiety and anger issues. It's always cool to see heroes as mirrors of ourselves, inspires us to achieve. Thats just my take.
That's why I love Thor we both gods
Its funny how I identify with Rocket the most, I mean my dad ones say "if you could play a Marvel characters, you could play Rocket cuz of your big mouth..."
My parents weren't joking....
You know, as someone who's on the Autism Spectrum (I have Asperger's Syndrome), I always did wonder why Drax resonated with me a bit more so than the other Guardians of the Galaxy members. Now I do! 👍🏻👍🏻😊
I have asperger syndrome and I loved Drax even before I noticed all this, now I for one understand his character more as I can relate to him. This is why he's my favourite character in in the mcu. For real
I was never diagnosed. I think I'm just anti-social, and I intentionally cultivate some of these traits. However, it's taken decades to take things much less literal. I have a friend who is definitely Aspergers. Only almost four decades of friendship allows her to recognize my face and allows me to protect her from some who don't understand her. She took care of me when I needed help and was being a right bastard to her - probably her Asperger's didn't let her pick up that I was being, say, unfriendly - and now I'm trying to look out for her when nobody else will. She is loyal to the few people who have taken the time to know her, and she is worth knowing. Annoying at times, but then, so am I. I've learned to adapt to provide signals she can recognize.
Clicked because I usually dislike when characters are 'unofficially diagnosed' in media.
Was pleasantly surprised by your perspective.
Well Drax isn't autistic nor can he be. For one autism is human specific. Two, Drax's entire race are literal, that's just how they mentally and emotionally function. Thirdly to Drax we are autistic, unable to be precise and direct. We lack the ability to be literal all the time.
@@magnuserror9305 I feel like you missed the point of the video and my comment.
And your final sentences are heavily stereotyped.
As you say, humanity in general lacks the ability to always be literal, or rather, humans use non-literal communication to convey ideas in a less straight forward manner. Such as how Drax isn't literally Autistic, but can be understood as an allegory of the Autistic experience to some extent.
I definitely do agree Drax is meant to represent the spectrum, maybe in universe he is just an alien, but that is certainly how someone with Autism feels, like an alien amongst a different species, at times at least.
I also wanna say that this is a good example of how to weave a form of representation into media properly, Drax is an amazing character, and he represents the spectrum, he isn't a character that is made to represent the spectrum first.
The mass of LGBT representation needs to take notes.
"the mass of LGBT representation needs to take notes" as someone who's against that lifestyle generally (not that I'll just condemn any random stranger or anything like that) I'd like to see that too. Just like... We get it they are gay, move on so I can watch this show and ignore that. That sort of thing.
Doing this would be better for everyone.
Ooh. You just had to sneak in that last line.
That, or people are being autistic and seeing links where there isn't any.
Drax isn't the first "alien who takes things literally". If Drax is supposed to represent someone with Autism, then what about the ENTIRE Vulcan race from Star Trek? Are they autistic too?
Speaking as one....
you are WRONGGGGGGGGG
I'm getting really sick of the token black lesbian character that seems to pop up in the background of every show.
I'm am introverted man with aspergers high functioning autism. I have mastered sarcasm, metaphors, body language ect (hense high functioning), nobody would know I had it unless I told them, but I didn't even consider why Drax was my favorite, now I know. It's not an affliction, it's the next stage in comprehension and interaction, we're not the socially awkward ones because most of us are more self and situationally aware than the normies that fuck with us.
obviously not, otherwise we wouldnt make fun of you haha
@@spitbukket6862 on a mass majority rule, I can concede your point, but there are minority exceptions to the rules, I being one of those.
@@deathislife3545 man u s already startin to piss me off
Id not say its the next stage. We know for a fact autism impedes many comprehension skills. But it can be a great boost in some cases, leading to a superior genius lv ability in understanding a type of systems.
So id say its not better but its not out right worst either. Everything has its benefits and disadvantages. Is the loss in social cues really that bad? Or is the boost in subject type intelligence worth the lack in social or abstract thought?
Im high on the antisocial personality disorder scale. It doesn't stop me from understanding or picking up on social cues. Rather its enhanced it. I just don't feel for other people as much as normal people do. I like it a lot and see it as more valuable than the loss in emotions for others.
I as a kid did a lot of "bad" stuff, so my parents and school long story, had me tested for stuff and found out i was pretty much a "sociopath". Doctors really don't like to call it that cuz it misses the nuances held with antisocial disabilities. All in all disabilities can be great tools counting on perspectives. Im glad u count urs as a boost.
"Thank God we have Game of Thrones" oh talk about not aging well xD
Great vid. I bloody love how Drax takes a bunch of typically autistic traits and turns them into something adorable. I myself have been diagnosed with slightly different variations of autism so often, and I've had so many people, especially in places of authority, stereotype me, that it usually makes me sick when people take the label very seriously.
I have seen so many different people with such labels, and I've had so many slightly different diagnoses, that I can't help but just want people to treat "autistic people" as just them. I find, from my experiences of being around them all my life, that the only thing that they truly have in common, is brutally honest authenticity, and if you ask me, we need more of that in the world. Besides that, they are just like others. There are just certain problems they tend to have a bit more of than others. And usually those problems are things nearly everyone has trouble with sometimes, like overstimulation.
I really hope instead of people taking those labels seriously to the point of treating "autists" like retards, that they will instead simply listen to the person involved. Usually all people need, including those with autism, is simply to be heard, and to understand that people are listening to what they specifically want. Not some kind of stereotype. By making fun of it in a positive way, like with Drax, the weight of those labels is taken off a little bit, and I really hope more things like that will happen. In the end people shouldn't go by labels, that just causes discrimination. They should judge a person as an individual, and I can assure you, people with autism are just as diverse as anyone else. And since they are very honest, they usually will tell you what it is they want or need.
"Like looking in a mirror"
*looks in the mirror while standing still*
Am i a vampire?
Two reasons why I commented
1: I agree
2: there were 99 comments and there must be balance!
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be. :)
How is that balanced ??? Makes no sense . Explain it please. Me stupid. Thanks
Good video Max. I never thought of Drax being on the spectrum. Actually I never notice if anyone is on the spectrum at all. Most people seem normal while the different people are angry at me. Good video.
I’m really glad everyone is being recommended to this channel, myself included. This is a great video, and I love the vibe you put out. Great stuff
Thanks mate! Never thought it! Yeap. Literally, i didn't see it haha. One of my favourite scenes that always makes me cry just to recalled is the i e between Drax and Mantis when he is remembering his daughter and she touches him and starts to cry. Such a powerful scene. No one really knows what you are carrying inside and it feels like a burning sensation.
I like how you acknowledged the intensity of his emotions and his tendency to give into them despite his typical stoic demeanor in his "constant tone of voice." I think that's one misconception about autism. That we don't seem to "care" much, especially when it comes to empathy. In reality, it seems to be the opposite: we feel too much. And this too is demonstrated beautifully in Drax's interactions with Mantis. For example, when she touches him while he's laughing and says, "I have never felt such humor!"
“Cease this yammering and release us from this earthly confinement” fucking hilarious
Oh wow! Triple S League is great, I'm happy to see this!
Wilson Fisk in Daredevil seems to be on the spectrum, check that out
Hmmm! That might be true! Never thought about him that way. :O
A lot of marvel characters display a lot of the traits
This actually makes a lot of sense considering how awkward and almost "edge of tantrum" so much of his interactions are, especially with vanessa. He's obviously developmentally stunted in some way, he even says himself that as a kid he was "young for his age".
Not the comic book or movie versions, but the TV one, that makes a lot of sense.
@@pan-semitistcommunist4181 But then again, he's very traumatized by the fact that he had an abusive father that he eventually killed when he was a child. He buys that expensive painting so he can look at it everyday, and it reminds him of his abusive father.
Except his entire species behaves like that
@@happythekatt8419 It is no longer autism.
I'd love to see a member of his species who acts perfectly normal, the other characters to note that fact, only for drax to comment about how said member of his species was probably on their version of the spectrum.
Drax was a human named Arthur Douglas in the comics
Poignant and cool video eaasy broh. Not on the autism specter myself, but have enough adhd to fuel two interstellar empires :p Love drax and keeping my hope up, for a big movie story adhd character that is not just played for laughs and their "hyperness", but acutally dwell into the qualities and weird perspective on things most of us share :) Keep fighting the good fight man, subscribed :)
I just found your channel. Me and my two kids are on the spectrum. It never occurred to me though that Drax was on the spectrum. I just thought he was funny. Now I'll look at him in a different light. Kinda cool.
That's kinda suck (?) that you and your children are on the spectrum.
Autistic Coding in Characters - Thank You for Addressing This :) I loved the bit where you said "often misunderstood" "if only people could see past the superficialities" I wish everyone could do that for all of us :) We Really are misunderstood ALOT
“ out of the way dumber smaller groot “ best drax quote ever
I knew I really liked that guy for a reason. As soon as Drax started talking, I felt called out. And I'm a woman. Thanks for covering this, man.
The amount of jokes I am resisting, is enough power of an infinity stone
How hasn't this video surpassed at least above 500k views?
This was such an enlightening, encouraging and funny vid!!! Thank you so much for reminding me/us that we are not what people make us out to be! You, my comrade, get a subscription from me lol!
This just goes to prove that sometimes you have to have experienced/ been exposed to something to recognise it in other aspects of life. It never crossed my mind that Drax could be viewed as being on the spectrum. Sometimes I really wonder how people can miss racist, homophobic or sexist undertones and this just proves that just ignorance can be a big factor. Much bigger than I had first thought.
Great video, really enjoyable and thought provoking. Subbed 👍🏽
GOT, ouch.
I theory I heard about drax is that his vision is based on motion which is why he finds mantis hideous because he assumes her antenna are her eyes.
This actually made my work day better. I agree that Drax represents me and many others on the spectrum positively and that makes me happy
As someone who is autistic I can relate to Drax and his odd outburst to something he doesn't understand. One of my favorite moments of him is back in Infinity War when he thinks he's invisible while eating a zargnut only Mantis calls him out and immediately replies back "damn it." That reminds me of when I first joined youth group at church when ever I stumbled upon something I didn't understand taking my time slowly I would always reply "shut up."
Max, Good vid. Thanks. Also, thank for giving words to things about myself that I couldn't express.
After this video, I actually see this a lot more from him.
I love Drax even more
I have autism myself, and drax reminds me a little of myself when I was younger. I used to not understand metaphors, jokes, or sarcasm back then. My voice is mostly monotone, and my focus can be limiting and I tend to space out for no reason, at times when others are talking to me.
This video was amazing 😄
The way Drax is written is similar to how the Farscape character D’Argo is written which James Gunn is a fan of. Farscape is a science fiction show about the adventures of Astronaut John Crichton and his Alien friends who are fugitives on the run from a Totalitarian space military called the Peacekeepers. D’Argo is a Luxan warrior who is imprisoned for the death of his wife Lo-lan who is part of the same alien race Peacekeepers are part of, Sebeceans. Only he was actually framed for the murder. The actual murder is a Peacekeeper, his brother in law, Makton. Since D’Argo is Luxan he has super strength, a tongue that temporarily stun you and has the tendency to angry outbursts which he does take time to control. He is a very wise character though. All four seasons of the show are on Amazon Prime.
Drax is an exemplar of his people, so to them, whatever way he's wired would be considered "neurotypical." In our world, "autism" literally means "withdrawn into oneself." The defining trait is an inability to comprehend how one's actions (or inaction) affect others and the world around them. Contrariwise, Drax doesn't think twice about throwing himself in harm's way to protect others. So maybe the literal definition of autism might be a bit askew. Or perhaps too many people are diagnosed with it by incompetent quacks.
*Note:* Some theorists pontificate that autism might be the result of a malfunction of some portion of the right hemisphere of the brain, generally regarded as the "social brain." It has something to do with the importation of information, especially social information, from the external world into the inner mind.
Drax the destroyer's special interest is kicking your ass.
I have a cousin with Asperger and I always thought about him whenever Drax appeared, their behavior is extremely similar 💕
3:15 : Yes, I've always thought of Drax as the 'Lawful Good' member of the crew.... with Chaotic Neutral tendencies ^_^
When you think about Drax, he can be a little frightening. That one scene where he skewers 5 or 6 people (not a faceless army, but basically Human Beings just doing their job), and afterwards gives us all this cutest of smiles.....something you associate with sociopaths (at least Wolverine acknowledged the fact that "He was the best there was at what he did, but what he did wasn't very pretty" ^_^).
I hadn't thought about thinking of Drax as autistic, but being exposed to this from, of all places, "Big Bang Theory" (and Sheldon, of course), it does make his character more interesting, if perhaps a little sadder.
Drax is loyal and loves his adopted family with every bit of his being. I never thought about him being on the spectrum. In that light, his huge perceived personality shift between GotGv1 and GotGv2 isn't a shift at all; it's Drax opening up to his friends and learning social actions he never experienced on his home world. He didn't always learn the best lesson from his friends, but considering the rest of the team, that is not surprising. Thank you for helping me see him in a new light. James Gunn is smarter than I thought.
Oh wow imma have to check out this movie then. I have aspergers myself and it'd ve kinda cool to see that kinda stuff replicated in the movie.
slowly but surely making me accept that I am on the spectrum. don’t take it weirdly but i love you man
I'm autistic too BUT... I'm gonna have to disagree with you. Drax is just a "dumb" but wholesome destructive brawler. The closest similarity I can think of is Ramjet from The Transformers. Ramjet, like Drax is Destructive and does things without plan or strategy. Only difference is Ramjet isn't wholesome but a villian. A dumb villain. To quote Megatron, "I have Morons (referring to Ramjet and his team) in my team". Drax, on the other hand maybe "dumb" but wholesome, however he can get real when the time comes, especially when he was with Mantis
I knew Drax and I had something in common.
I checked Triple S League and they seemed worth a try, so thanks for that. As to this video i completely agree about Draxx. To me he is the best quotable character in the movie. Also lijed hearing so ething good about Gunn.
So when Rocket says Drax's whole planet doesn't get metaphors and are like him, does that mean we have an actual home planet we could go to?
I think I need to check out these movies.
Nice
"thank god we have shazam and game of thrones coming out this month"
-aged like milk
very well done! excited to see more from you
I watched most the movies drax was in & honestly never made that connection now i can't forget
I think batista does a great job tho I always found drax endearing
"I wasn't listening, I was thinking of something else" "I stopped listening after you said we needed a plan" These scenes are very relatable. When you deal with auditory processing disorder (which commonly coexists with autism) and struggle with paying attention, you find yourself fantasy thinking and day dreaming instead of focusing on important things.
Bruh I have autism and was getting sick of the mostly stereotypical portrayals of it on tv and then Drax, while technically not autistic by intent, represents it in the most accurate fashion ever.
This is so relatable.
He isn't autistic. Autism is a human issue alone. To Drax's race we are autistic. From his perspective we talk without purpose, lacking direction. We shouldn't place human mental states on other species.
We know there is a big difference between mammals and birds in regards to social and emotional systems. Birds are more radical and self harming. Mammals are more stable. Equal intelligent birds to mammals shows that birds are less adaptable to new situations and require heavy maintenance.
That was really cool. Brilliant in fact.
People act as if having autism is the plague yet love drax
I myself identify with Mantis,Rocket, and Drax for a lot of reasons.
I love this video. I never thought of Drax as Autistic, but I agree with you that he is a good example of this in media. I think another good example is Newt from Fantastic Beasts. Personally when I hear people complain about him being boring, or confusing I suspect they haven't made the connection I have. And I find him fascinating as a result.
In fact I'm starting to become uncomfortable with interpreting as many fictional characters as autistic in some way as I have. I feel like maybe I'm projecting too much. Especially since I'm someone who doesn't like to dwell on my autism. In fact I still find it weird to consider that there is a Autism Community. Its just always been me dealing with it my way. It informs who I am but it isn't part of my Identity. Dunno why i went of on that. Not sure how relevant that was but hey. I did get a small thrill from this video and you inferring your autism in a casual manner. It made me think, oh wow, someone like me
I love Drax, we process things the same. I can’t catch when someone is being sarcastic, malicious, angry, or requires me to pay attention. Things go over my head when a someone is trying to make a joke. I take it at face value
The "finger on throat" part I believe Drax didn't understand because it's an unknown action to his planet and is commonly used on Earth.
As a person with autism. I use Drax all the time to explain to people why I am how I am. Not to brag but I too am extraordinarily humble.
As an autistic person watching this the only conclusion I can draw is that the only way I will ever get the respect I am due is if I stick to "a strict diet of green eggs and ham" and become as ripped as Drax the Destroyer. It occurs to me perhaps the reason he is respected is *because* he is huge. "See? Now you respect me, because I'm a threat. That's the way it works" Syndrome, from The Incredibles 2004. Probably not the takeaway you intended but... Well I tried being nice, the world is just too Allistic and nobody is ever interested in meeting you halfway because they can't "see" your need.
Interesting, as someone on the spectrum, I've never considered this, hell I never even realised his quirks were meant to be Autistic/Aspergers-y
I have an Autism Baby Groot shirt. I want a Drax Autism shirt. I am on the Autism Spectrum.
My wife and I are on the autism spectrum and we totally agree with your take on this character. We both say that people with autism are probably the aliens that landed on Earth and don't even know themselves.
Your theroy makes sense. in human terms, his entire species might be on the spectrum. It is a neat reference, but if everyone of his kind behaves like this, that's technically not autism, just their nature. They are autistic-like by nature in human terms. But him being on the spectrum is an interesting concept of how most aliens in the MCU are similar to humans. Each got their unique quirks, just like humans.
“Representation” is a very loaded thing that is often counterproductive. Because it is such a finicky thing, it requires balance that studios do not meet and therefore representation becomes forced and racist and sexist; and when they think it is a step forward, it is actually a step backwards. That is, of course, if they weren’t actually trying to force it, and Most of the time, that seems to be exactly what they do. That being said, I don’t think Drax is representation of any kind. If people feel a deep connection with the character, that is great. But they didn’t make him like that for that purpose.
There is one character that I created that I often think that might have autism, after watching this video I started to plan on watching more of your videos about this subject in order to understand if he really have this trait.
Kind of unrelated, but great and fitting choice of music for this video.
I actually saw this movie on a date, it was weird how Drax and I were so alike.
in an over-the-top way
Drax roasting new hulk is something I want to see
Is it weird bring I'm on the spectrum but i speak in mostly metaphors and find it easy to do so?
No not at all. It's all a part of being on a "spectrum." Autistic people will bear and lack certain behaviors that other autistic people do not. For example... most people on the spectrum tend to not get sarcasm, yet I do!
To add to what max said I've heard it's kind of like that stat circle in pokemon, a bunch of different traits you may have more or less of.
It's one quirk of many.
Besides, autists can learn the language of metaphors; we just may need a moment to catch on that it is one. When I come across a new one, I still stagger at times, but those I already know are not fazing me anymore and they're integrated in my vocabulary. I also come up with my own in order to help other people understand what I try to convey.
Drax looks almost exactly like Dave Bautista it's wild
ikr?
I hate hearing the word Autism since I have it and for along time I wish for it to just be gone because I never asked for it.
It's draxxing time.
As a non autistic person. Drax reminds me of my asperger father. He indeed portrays characteristics
If it is a spectrum then we're all on it that's how spectrums work
This gave me a new perspective on Amos from The Expanse.
A couple times in the video, you pointed out that his autistic traits weren't seen as something to poke fun of, and that he's portrayed as someone the audience can respect.
But would the same have been true if he wasn't a physically strong, hyper-masculine guy? What if he was just a regular guy, who exhibited those quirks?
I guess I'm trying to say that the media, and society in general, often has double standards when it comes to people in the spectrum. Like being neurodivergent is only seen as "okay" as long as the person in question happens to be super attractive, or physically intimidating.
Drax is my favourite comedy character in the MCU. And NETFLIX Daredevil is my favourite serious character in the MCU.
And by serious, I mean everyday serious temperament.
If anyone dislikes this video you carry the 69 curse. All I have to say, just don't otherwise the curse end you.
Since when is 69 a curse? :P
Miss you on HBR.
My boyfriend and I are both autistic, and we both love Drax. He's my boyfriend's favorite in particular :)
This has never been mentioned before as far as I can tell, but Dwight Schrute from The Office (US) definitely has Aspergers. He's probably my favorite character besides Michael Scott but that's a given. Dwight's condition is quite over exaggerated for the character and comedy of the show but that's understandable.
Who was Dwight in US?
Oh US as in USA smh duh lol
No wonder I can relate to Drax so much.
Max Can You please do a video on Characters from all Tv Shows that are "Autisticly Coded" as a character.
Would be super cool :)
( Like you don't have enough to do lol )
James Gunn is autistic and writes several of his characters with traits.
Love how literal he is
And like hes skilled but not a super genius
It’s a metaphor drax
fascinating never thought about that
Am i the only one who got jumpscared when out of nowhere Mantis apeared in 6:12 ?
just subbed looking for vids on autism as my son is in the spectrum and im looking for ways to connect