The voice of Alan Wake saying ""You look familiar" to the physical actor of Alan Wake who reciprocates "You SOUND familiar" was a nice piece of meta-humor.
I mean I don’t know if it’s just a meta joke. This could be huge considering on a basis it implies that their collaborative work was literally creating Alan as a back door way out for both of them. It’s enough for us to still accept the narrative we were presented with but still leaves open the door for more work with the character. How can Alan truly be enlightened if he’s not aware he has two fathers?
@@LarryDavis2099 same. I'm convinced that the filmmaker "Tom Zane" in AW2 is really the Mr Scratch from American Nightmare in disguise. There are too many similarities between the two (e.g. the same face as Alan, the "Psycho" song, the drunken parties, the wedding ring, etc). It would also explain why the Scratch in AW2 is so different from the Scratch in American Nightmare, and why filmmaker "Tom Zane" is able to move so freely through The Dark Place without needing light to protect him.
DUDE, what if this video IS how Alan was created. What if they decided on the face and voice together as their plan to escape, and since they have complemented each other on respected Alan "parts", this is why he has toms face and darlings voice. I bet its not the worst theory
@@daimontpl so you reckon Alan is actually written in to Tom Zane's story and all part of his plan to escape??? I mean I can see it, never actually thought of it that way before!?
I think all the elements are there for the theory that Darling and Zane created Alan Wake. In almost ironic succession, Dr. Darling talks about how time works outside the normal bounds in the dark place and how thoughts can create reality. It almost sounds like he comedically made Tom Zane pop into existence and then they both proceeded to make Alan Wake as a way get out.
They show him shirtless because all those comments already exist, I think. He was already shirtless in Control, the internet exploded in the comment section under those videos and I consider all on that in this video as a metacomment to all the comments people already made (but Darling of course never reacted to) ;)
What if at the end of this series it's revealed that Alan is a character created by Zane and darling to help them escape the dark place and that's why he has the face of Zane and the voice of darling
Did you play the first game? Zane literally wrote Alan's life out up to the point where Alan writes the ending of the first game. Alan is already a character written by Zane, but the other characters like Darling, Saga, Odin, Tor, etc. are just people pulled into the story by the writing. It is the same kind of with Alex Casey. Alex Casey is a fictional character written into reality by Alan as a real person, but is also a real person outside of the fictional character. Its very weird and the timeloops will hopefully explain some of this.
Thomas Zane has some mad bisexual energy man. Also, Mathew Porretta is such a great actor. I've never seen him so... Idk... Giddy at meeting Zane. It's hilarous.
Is anyone else terrified at the prospect and potential disaster of Zane and Dr. Darling teaming up to create god knows what? The chaos they could create would scare even the dark presence.
Ok, this video is fucking awesome. 😂 I love the reference for Darling's muscle body and that the two actors acting Alan together. After this, I want a scene in the Control DLC when Alan, Darling and Tom meet each other 'in real'. I really love the actors and their characters too. ❤
LMAO Tom just walks in? And the way he instantly starts flirting(?) w Darling. Part of me wonders if Darling conjured this version of Zane through that wish
Diving deeper into this game. So obvious to me now. Doctor Darling is The Darkplace. Thomas Zane is a shallow creation of Doctor Darling. That is why details of him are blurred. He was created in a moment of insanity on day 665 when Dr. Darling decided that he needed an artist. Is he a diver? A poet? A director? An actor? It isn't ever quite clear. It has changed. Permutations of Zane. Undefined. Redefined. Same character a new story. The rules of the Dark Place form based on belief and thought. Doctor Darling in these videos is setting and enforcing these rules of his new world. Time isn't linear because Dr. Darling doesn't think that is how time works. You need an artist because Dr. Darling decided you need one. The Dark Place due to Dr. Darling's cheerful attitude remains at least neutral. Even hopeful to begin with. For literal years. All other characters in The Dark Place see it twist against them almost instantly. This tells me that the rules changed after Dr. Darling. The Dark Place wasn't always so emotionally dark. In the insanity of Dr. Darling telling and retelling himself stories alone in the dark searching for an escape only using the resources in his own mind. Creating his own story to freedom. Grasping at elements he knows to be true from his life. An AW in Cauldron Lake. A missing author. He can use those. He had already used them. He was going to use them now. They existed because he had always done it. He would always do it even if he was only doing it now. Events here become confused. Dr. Darling and Thomas Zane work together to literally merge themselves. Thomas Zane no longer fully a story of Dr. Darling begins to have his own agency. Thomas Zane tells his own story. The created becoming a creator partially outside Dr. Darlings control. The two of them create Alan Wake who always existed and was already lost in The Dark Place. Logic and art tied together. Art that wasn't just representational. That was too diluted to use. It wasn't real enough. They had to weave the two together. Thomas' face. Darling's voice. Science and art in unison. Using the power of the AW to manifest his story into the past. This took years to get right. Different versions of Alan that were all Alan. Events in the other games. Finally drawing him in when they had the story, logic, and the art right. A boy with nightmares. A mother calming the boy with a lightswitch. Strong belief mixed with parautilitarian power. The manifestation of an OoP. -------------- This is the ritual to lead you on. Your friends will meet him when you're gone. What ritual? Whose are the friends? Who is him? The ritual is the representational work of Thomas Zane and Dr. Darling. Multiple rituals. Murders that took place that Dr. Darling remembered. Or piece of stories. Plausible enough. Who are Alan's friends? We know his wife. The Old Gods of Asgard? Ahti? We know that Alan's wife worked with the FBC. I believe that Dr. Darling is using the AW and Alan to draw the FBC to him. His friends doesn't need to be at this moment. The friends can be in the future. Friends Alan makes will meet Dr. Darling when Alan is gone. Out of the lake that isn't a lake. ---------- Thousands have gone missing beyond the labyrinth of me. When you're lost, you're lost in your own company. This is Dr. Darling/Zane realizing what they are. We see Alan recognize this at points. He is a piece of art. A character. Only he is real. He's cut his strings. --------- Maybe someday people will put together a full video of Darling's influence on the Dark Place. More so than any other person here elements of Darling show up. His books. His jokes. New York even. Alan thinks he magnified it. Maybe that is true. But New York. Parliament Tower. Those belonged to Dr. Darling originally. Places he knew well being more manifest. Only the FBC with its power don't seem to exist in The DarkPlace. Or maybe they do. ---------- Final part that is most out there. It is the part that I go from 90% sure to more like this is a cool idea that I really hope is true. I think that Dr. Darling is literally Hedron. I think Doctor Darling finally understands what he is and is able to position himself in a way to save Jessie and the FBC. Recursively giving himself the ability to become Hedron by exposing himself to Hedron.
Forgot the bit about The Dark Presence. That is literally the devolved undefined will of Dr. Darling. His Darkness manifest. It will do anything to escape. It will become anyone it needs to. It will tear down reality to get out. Alan will both leave and never leave. That is his choice.
IMO it seems that darling conjured/created zane when he realised he needed an artist to escape. He even questions if the dark place is manifesting his own thoughts into reality right before that moment. So is zane his creation? Or was zane already there? This also implies that alan is their creation in an attempt to escape after zane failed to get them both out? And maybe everything that is created in the dark place is inherently evil. Which is why while zane is trying to help. He is also seemingly a bad person. But none if this explains Door. Who is apparantly some kind of overseer of the different realities after being sacrificed to save Saga. So either Door is secretly the main villain. Or zane is and he was there before darling and is using him to escape, which is why door tells alan to play his part the next time they meet. As he is just a pawn. But that means his wife isnt real. Which doesnt make sense. Lol so many questions. And i know Sam Lake said the fun in stories like this is having the questions presented. But getting the answers spoils the scaryness. So maybe there are not answers. Just a neverending spiral of questions lol
This is why I'm convinced the film-maker version of Tom Zane isn't the real Tom Zane (from AW1) at all, and is really Mr Scratch from American Nightmare in disguise. There are lots of similarities...the "psycho" song, the drunken parties, the gloating and similar speech patterns, the wedding ring, the connection to projectors and projector rooms, his ability to live inside and move through the Dark Place without any light protection (and also knowing where people are inside the Dark Place - e.g. always appearing ahead of Alan in American Nightmare, always knowing when to call Alan on the payphone in AW2, etc) This theory has sent me down a huge rabbit-hole of wondering whether the "Scratch is Wake" reveal in AW2 was just another distraction created for Alan, Saga and Casey to throw them off course. Because in Alan Wake 1, Tom Zane (the diver) is VERY emphatic when says Alan and Mr Scratch aren't the same person, and in American Nightmare it's obvious that Mr Scratch is his own person/entity and not just another version of Alan (even if he IS wearing an Alan-shaped human suit).
@@ChampionsOfLight yea I am extremely excited for Lake House. I generally look forward to the whole same VA thing, since Darling makes a point of him sounding like Wake.
So, Alan Wake"s life is a story written by Zane and Dr. Casper in order to scape de Dark World? That's why he has Zane"s look but Dr. Casper"s voice?? This universe is so fascinating
There was a piece of the dark place inside Dr.Hartman. He might've came into contact with it through him. But in all honesty Alan or scratch probably wrote a way in for him. I think he was probably hoping for Jesse but he got Darling instead.
@@gorbgorbinson7639 I have a feeling Jesse is involved too - one of Sheriff Breaker's notes on the whiteboard mentions "the red haired woman". Now that could be a reference to Courtney Hope's character in Quantum Break (Breaker's actor was in that too), but from what I can tell, the new games with the same cast supersede Quantum Break in the lore.
I love how in the first 2 seconds of the video you see Darling shirtless and jacked, lol. On another note, though. Yeah, this basically confirms to me Zane isn't good news... and may be the cause of Wake's confusion in the dark place? Zane might've made up scratch in the first place and put it into a story that Alan Wake then had to deal with (or thought he had to deal with... there's not guarantee that making the Dark Presence part of your art is required). So I suppose we're going to be having to deal with Zane a lot more. In fact... maybe the "unstoppable force" is the dark presence? Maybe it wasn't always a thing until now? After all the Dark Place is timeless... it doesn't follow linear time. So it could've been created AFTER Darling was pushed into the dark place and seeped out into earlier times before. Shit man, what if Darling accidentally helped make all of this happen in the first place. Or this could all just be setup for Alan Wake 3/Control 2.
@@OperatorVantasame! The most obvious clue is the Psycho song that plays during his flashback with Alan, but there are lots of other clues too - the drunken parties, the wedding ring, the "scratchy" noise that happened when Alan tried to say his name in front of him, and his ability to walk through the Dark Place without a light to protect him. And a bit more obscurely...on his movie posters it says his original name was Thomas Seine. "Seine" has two meanings; it's a type of fisherman's trap, and it can also mean "of the lake". Thomas means "twin". Thomas Seine = "twin of the lake").
The meaning of time also gets me because of quantum break and with Tim Breaker and Jack Joyce. I think it’s getting deeper and the dark place is getting more destructive clearly something is happening and it’s worryingly affecting Alan’s world
...wait so is Doctor Darling creating all of this? I'm pretty sure he just created Zane. He is both creating this reality and it always existed. The first thing he says is time doesn't exist in this place it blurs with itself and the primary reality. The order of things doesn't matter. Things in this reality can bleed into our reality out of sync. Events can happen for Darling in a specific order, but the consequences for our reality are random throughout our realities concept of time. I'm pretty sure this is early Zane and he manifested him. Zane is saying the things Darling wants for a reason.
@@ChampionsOfLight and Ahti the cosmic janitor to make sure things occur as they should? Which would mean the FBC essentially serves him. Making sure things go as they need to. Which kind of makes sense. We know that the true job of The Director is to be Ahti's Assistant.
so does this imply darling and tom had a hand in effectively making alan wake and probably making him the most powerful being that we know of, and if so, to escape the dark place spiral?.
@@ChampionsOfLight ohhhhhhh I thought there was one at an in the dressing room where the number 665 was flashing and that I missed it!!! Thankssssssssss
Well hedron is a resonance interdimensional entity. It would probably have no clue what the dark place is but also it’s probably guiding him. But then again Hedron is already mysterious in of itself and seemingly benevolent unlike the Hiss which wants to spread like a disease. And remember how that went when Dr. Hartman was afflicted by both Hiss and Dark Presence
alien guardian angels are unisex in my book :P@@sunny_senpai but yeah its not a real theory from me .. just a low effort brain teaser that probably will lead nowhere :P
I can't help but feel like this is a bad development. Given what we know about Zane by the end of Alan Wake 2? He seems more intent on abusing the Dark Place's power to warp reality than anything else.
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The voice of Alan Wake saying ""You look familiar" to the physical actor of Alan Wake who reciprocates "You SOUND familiar" was a nice piece of meta-humor.
and 'well I am active!' after everyone's mind was blown by how shredded Darling was
@@CornusXBL Yeah that was definitely a surprise lol
I mean I don’t know if it’s just a meta joke. This could be huge considering on a basis it implies that their collaborative work was literally creating Alan as a back door way out for both of them. It’s enough for us to still accept the narrative we were presented with but still leaves open the door for more work with the character. How can Alan truly be enlightened if he’s not aware he has two fathers?
@@WoombiAlan Wale 3: My Daddy and My Daddy
@@samuraisharkie honestly might be the lake house dlc
haha I love how Tom points out what everyone said while playing control. "holy shit, Darling is JACKED."
Darling basically never left the oldest house prior to the events of control. They must have had the best gym facility known to man, Darling is ripped
Look at prisons. If you have time to kill and nowhere or way to go..work out.
Casper: Have we met? You look familiar!
Zane: Oh, you sound familiar! 😂😂
Zane is more scary than the dark place itself, the way that he randomly shows up is just so scary for some reason.
maybe Zane is a manifestation from Darling all along :P
He didn't show up randomly. Dr Darling wanted an artist and the Dark place spawned him.
@@ChampionsOfLight I don't think the Zane we see in AW2 is the same one as in AW1
@@LarryDavis2099 same. I'm convinced that the filmmaker "Tom Zane" in AW2 is really the Mr Scratch from American Nightmare in disguise. There are too many similarities between the two (e.g. the same face as Alan, the "Psycho" song, the drunken parties, the wedding ring, etc). It would also explain why the Scratch in AW2 is so different from the Scratch in American Nightmare, and why filmmaker "Tom Zane" is able to move so freely through The Dark Place without needing light to protect him.
and pulling drinks out of nowhere lol not suspicious at all >_>
I don’t know if there is a respectful way to say this but I really dig the character direction of making Zane a little slutty. It just feels right.
Given that Zane's characterization was based off of Jim Morrison, I think that was pretty much the idea 😂
- You look familiar.
- You sound familiar.
meta-irony has entered the chat
My brain can’t handle it if Remedy actually added a canonical reason that Alan Wake has Dr Darling’s voice but looks like Tom Zane. 😂
wouldnt that be something
DUDE, what if this video IS how Alan was created. What if they decided on the face and voice together as their plan to escape, and since they have complemented each other on respected Alan "parts", this is why he has toms face and darlings voice. I bet its not the worst theory
@@daimontpl so you reckon Alan is actually written in to Tom Zane's story and all part of his plan to escape??? I mean I can see it, never actually thought of it that way before!?
@@cazza5478that would actually be THE craziest meta sh-t ever
I think all the elements are there for the theory that Darling and Zane created Alan Wake. In almost ironic succession, Dr. Darling talks about how time works outside the normal bounds in the dark place and how thoughts can create reality. It almost sounds like he comedically made Tom Zane pop into existence and then they both proceeded to make Alan Wake as a way get out.
"you look familiar."
"... well you sound familiar!"
if you know you know 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
probably the only scene with Ilkka and Matthew actually being in the same room together, love it
lol i love the comment of him working out. they totally saw us all commenting on dr. darling shirtless
i can only imagine how some corners of the internet will react to this gem on monday lol
They show him shirtless because all those comments already exist, I think. He was already shirtless in Control, the internet exploded in the comment section under those videos and I consider all on that in this video as a metacomment to all the comments people already made (but Darling of course never reacted to) ;)
I was going to comment this. I laughed so much when I heard them say this! They must have read all our comments.
OMG Now I understand why he stripped down at the end of Control! He was in Bright Falls the whole time, and at the end, he dove into Cauldron Lake!
hes was busy getting his back blown out by zane is why he couldnt assist at the oldest house
What if at the end of this series it's revealed that Alan is a character created by Zane and darling to help them escape the dark place and that's why he has the face of Zane and the voice of darling
we will probably find out in another 13 years lol
"A man with a tool makes two, Tom".
If Alan is Zane's tool, well...
Did you play the first game? Zane literally wrote Alan's life out up to the point where Alan writes the ending of the first game. Alan is already a character written by Zane, but the other characters like Darling, Saga, Odin, Tor, etc. are just people pulled into the story by the writing. It is the same kind of with Alex Casey. Alex Casey is a fictional character written into reality by Alan as a real person, but is also a real person outside of the fictional character. Its very weird and the timeloops will hopefully explain some of this.
Sam Lake said that neither alan and Zane wrote each other.
@@Ghost95sr first game literally says that Alan was written by Zane and vice versa. It's what is said in the game. Literally.
Thomas Zane has some mad bisexual energy man. Also, Mathew Porretta is such a great actor. I've never seen him so... Idk... Giddy at meeting Zane. It's hilarous.
That's why Zane is the goat!!!
The whole time I was watching this I was just thinking
🏳️🌈?
He is so fruity
The way Darling turns towards the camera... "Well I am active :D". It's pretty obvious that the actors are having an absolute blast.
Tom Zane reminds me of John Constantine
@@EldritchObserver3301 Oh my god he is SO Constantine lol
I can’t put into words how happy this makes me. Your channel is a blessing, seriously.
aww stop it
The Blessed Channel
There's so much meta humor here. It's almost like Sam Lake wrote this scene specifically for the fans.
Dr Darling is so fucking swole
That's how we got the"Dynamite" scene in Control 😂
Is anyone else terrified at the prospect and potential disaster of Zane and Dr. Darling teaming up to create god knows what? The chaos they could create would scare even the dark presence.
Ok, this video is fucking awesome. 😂 I love the reference for Darling's muscle body and that the two actors acting Alan together. After this, I want a scene in the Control DLC when Alan, Darling and Tom meet each other 'in real'. I really love the actors and their characters too. ❤
lmao i can't everytime zane offering a drink to dr. darling like how he can have those drinks with him 😭
"Kippis" threw me off, I just laughed for a couple minutes. lol
Fucking love you dude, Remedy is cooking us something for the ages. Man it's been such a long time i've just been that excited for good stories
About time they got the face and voice of Alan to meet
Seine is such a sleazy guy!! Leave poor Darling alone!
LMAO Tom just walks in? And the way he instantly starts flirting(?) w Darling. Part of me wonders if Darling conjured this version of Zane through that wish
Diving deeper into this game. So obvious to me now. Doctor Darling is The Darkplace. Thomas Zane is a shallow creation of Doctor Darling.
That is why details of him are blurred. He was created in a moment of insanity on day 665 when Dr. Darling decided that he needed an artist.
Is he a diver? A poet? A director? An actor? It isn't ever quite clear. It has changed. Permutations of Zane. Undefined. Redefined. Same character a new story.
The rules of the Dark Place form based on belief and thought. Doctor Darling in these videos is setting and enforcing these rules of his new world.
Time isn't linear because Dr. Darling doesn't think that is how time works.
You need an artist because Dr. Darling decided you need one.
The Dark Place due to Dr. Darling's cheerful attitude remains at least neutral. Even hopeful to begin with. For literal years. All other characters in The Dark Place see it twist against them almost instantly. This tells me that the rules changed after Dr. Darling. The Dark Place wasn't always so emotionally dark.
In the insanity of Dr. Darling telling and retelling himself stories alone in the dark searching for an escape only using the resources in his own mind.
Creating his own story to freedom. Grasping at elements he knows to be true from his life.
An AW in Cauldron Lake. A missing author. He can use those. He had already used them. He was going to use them now.
They existed because he had always done it. He would always do it even if he was only doing it now.
Events here become confused.
Dr. Darling and Thomas Zane work together to literally merge themselves. Thomas Zane no longer fully a story of Dr. Darling begins to have his own agency.
Thomas Zane tells his own story. The created becoming a creator partially outside Dr. Darlings control. The two of them create Alan Wake who always existed and was already lost in The Dark Place.
Logic and art tied together. Art that wasn't just representational. That was too diluted to use. It wasn't real enough. They had to weave the two together. Thomas' face. Darling's voice.
Science and art in unison. Using the power of the AW to manifest his story into the past. This took years to get right. Different versions of Alan that were all Alan. Events in the other games.
Finally drawing him in when they had the story, logic, and the art right.
A boy with nightmares. A mother calming the boy with a lightswitch. Strong belief mixed with parautilitarian power. The manifestation of an OoP.
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This is the ritual to lead you on.
Your friends will meet him when you're gone.
What ritual?
Whose are the friends?
Who is him?
The ritual is the representational work of Thomas Zane and Dr. Darling.
Multiple rituals. Murders that took place that Dr. Darling remembered.
Or piece of stories. Plausible enough.
Who are Alan's friends? We know his wife. The Old Gods of Asgard? Ahti?
We know that Alan's wife worked with the FBC.
I believe that Dr. Darling is using the AW and Alan to draw the FBC to him.
His friends doesn't need to be at this moment.
The friends can be in the future.
Friends Alan makes will meet Dr. Darling when Alan is gone.
Out of the lake that isn't a lake.
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Thousands have gone missing beyond the labyrinth of me.
When you're lost, you're lost in your own company.
This is Dr. Darling/Zane realizing what they are. We see Alan recognize this at points.
He is a piece of art. A character. Only he is real. He's cut his strings.
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Maybe someday people will put together a full video of Darling's influence on the Dark Place. More so than any other person here elements of Darling show up.
His books. His jokes. New York even. Alan thinks he magnified it. Maybe that is true. But New York. Parliament Tower.
Those belonged to Dr. Darling originally. Places he knew well being more manifest. Only the FBC with its power don't seem to exist in The DarkPlace.
Or maybe they do.
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Final part that is most out there. It is the part that I go from 90% sure to more like this is a cool idea that I really hope is true.
I think that Dr. Darling is literally Hedron.
I think Doctor Darling finally understands what he is and is able to position himself in a way to save Jessie and the FBC.
Recursively giving himself the ability to become Hedron by exposing himself to Hedron.
Forgot the bit about The Dark Presence. That is literally the devolved undefined will of Dr. Darling.
His Darkness manifest. It will do anything to escape. It will become anyone it needs to.
It will tear down reality to get out.
Alan will both leave and never leave. That is his choice.
IMO it seems that darling conjured/created zane when he realised he needed an artist to escape. He even questions if the dark place is manifesting his own thoughts into reality right before that moment. So is zane his creation? Or was zane already there? This also implies that alan is their creation in an attempt to escape after zane failed to get them both out? And maybe everything that is created in the dark place is inherently evil. Which is why while zane is trying to help. He is also seemingly a bad person. But none if this explains Door. Who is apparantly some kind of overseer of the different realities after being sacrificed to save Saga. So either Door is secretly the main villain. Or zane is and he was there before darling and is using him to escape, which is why door tells alan to play his part the next time they meet. As he is just a pawn. But that means his wife isnt real. Which doesnt make sense. Lol so many questions. And i know Sam Lake said the fun in stories like this is having the questions presented. But getting the answers spoils the scaryness. So maybe there are not answers. Just a neverending spiral of questions lol
In a way if it means we keep going down the rabbit hole then I’m fine getting no answers
This is why I'm convinced the film-maker version of Tom Zane isn't the real Tom Zane (from AW1) at all, and is really Mr Scratch from American Nightmare in disguise. There are lots of similarities...the "psycho" song, the drunken parties, the gloating and similar speech patterns, the wedding ring, the connection to projectors and projector rooms, his ability to live inside and move through the Dark Place without any light protection (and also knowing where people are inside the Dark Place - e.g. always appearing ahead of Alan in American Nightmare, always knowing when to call Alan on the payphone in AW2, etc)
This theory has sent me down a huge rabbit-hole of wondering whether the "Scratch is Wake" reveal in AW2 was just another distraction created for Alan, Saga and Casey to throw them off course. Because in Alan Wake 1, Tom Zane (the diver) is VERY emphatic when says Alan and Mr Scratch aren't the same person, and in American Nightmare it's obvious that Mr Scratch is his own person/entity and not just another version of Alan (even if he IS wearing an Alan-shaped human suit).
@@handsdowntoo7150AW1 Zane (the Diver, 667) pretty explicitly wasn't the real Zane either. It's spelled out in AW1.
saga is doors daughter she is a seer as said by tor and odin and also tor and odin said they wont speak about her father
Tom: "How 'bout we fuse? Let's join together and become one!"
Darling: "Um... ok..?"
Tom & Darling: "FU--SION! HA!"
*Alan Wake is born*
raises the question on if the dark place doesn't let Alan goes simply because Alan doesn't believe in his story
this is how you flirt in finnish, right?
"well hello Darling .. drink?" .. yep basically lol
This scene made me very concerned
Oh nonono don't go with him
I can already read the fanfiction 😂
rule 34 will have a blast with this lol
I'd write fanfiction about that, but it would be of the mindfuck kind, not the plain ol' fuck kind.
please, don't read fanfictions nearby the Cauldron lake
Im so happy i wasnt the only one who thought that too
@@c1borgen oopsie
665 - Neighbor of the Beast
God he's so swole in the beginning
I am genuinely curious how the Hedron got Darling to what i assume is the Dark Place.
my guess is the Lake House DLC will shed more light on that .. probably something to do with frequency/resonance/waves ^^
@@ChampionsOfLight yea I am extremely excited for Lake House. I generally look forward to the whole same VA thing, since Darling makes a point of him sounding like Wake.
yep the RCU only just started (even tho its kinda a thing for 20 years now) .. cant wait for what comes next :3 @@GrainOnTheGo
i wonder if the resonece somehow got him here can jesse also like appear in the dark place? or maybe darling used the Oceanview motel/hotel somehow?
we hopefully learn more in the Lake House DLC :3 @@davirrini
Zane Is Mr Scratch.
So, Alan Wake"s life is a story written by Zane and Dr. Casper in order to scape de Dark World? That's why he has Zane"s look but Dr. Casper"s voice?? This universe is so fascinating
welcome to the RCU :P
Wait. So has the Doc been stuck in the Dark Place since he disappeared in Control?
Time is a wonky construct in the RCU ^^
There was a piece of the dark place inside Dr.Hartman. He might've came into contact with it through him. But in all honesty Alan or scratch probably wrote a way in for him. I think he was probably hoping for Jesse but he got Darling instead.
@@gorbgorbinson7639 I have a feeling Jesse is involved too - one of Sheriff Breaker's notes on the whiteboard mentions "the red haired woman". Now that could be a reference to Courtney Hope's character in Quantum Break (Breaker's actor was in that too), but from what I can tell, the new games with the same cast supersede Quantum Break in the lore.
@@gorbgorbinson7639 Could have been Ahti as well or even Mr. door, who knows at this point, too many reality bending forces around.
Tom Zane sounded like Ahti again when he said "Kippas" just like in the cutscene when Jesse sees Alan and Tom talking.
"Kippis"
SWOLE
holy fuck this game man Why so rich of this kind of new lore
its not only darling that notice his Voice Similiar to Alan
but Zane too
I love how in the first 2 seconds of the video you see Darling shirtless and jacked, lol.
On another note, though. Yeah, this basically confirms to me Zane isn't good news... and may be the cause of Wake's confusion in the dark place? Zane might've made up scratch in the first place and put it into a story that Alan Wake then had to deal with (or thought he had to deal with... there's not guarantee that making the Dark Presence part of your art is required). So I suppose we're going to be having to deal with Zane a lot more. In fact... maybe the "unstoppable force" is the dark presence? Maybe it wasn't always a thing until now? After all the Dark Place is timeless... it doesn't follow linear time. So it could've been created AFTER Darling was pushed into the dark place and seeped out into earlier times before. Shit man, what if Darling accidentally helped make all of this happen in the first place. Or this could all just be setup for Alan Wake 3/Control 2.
welcome to the rabbit hole 🤣 I cant wait for the whole community to find this stuff on Monday and theorise for months maybe years to come ^^
I think Zane is Scratch. He resembles Mr. Scratch from Alan Wake american nightmare
@@OperatorVantasame! The most obvious clue is the Psycho song that plays during his flashback with Alan, but there are lots of other clues too - the drunken parties, the wedding ring, the "scratchy" noise that happened when Alan tried to say his name in front of him, and his ability to walk through the Dark Place without a light to protect him.
And a bit more obscurely...on his movie posters it says his original name was Thomas Seine. "Seine" has two meanings; it's a type of fisherman's trap, and it can also mean "of the lake". Thomas means "twin". Thomas Seine = "twin of the lake").
there are 2 tom zanes. the evil one in AW 2 and the good one in AW1. aw1 had 667 aw2 had 665
The meaning of time also gets me because of quantum break and with Tim Breaker and Jack Joyce. I think it’s getting deeper and the dark place is getting more destructive clearly something is happening and it’s worryingly affecting Alan’s world
...wait so is Doctor Darling creating all of this? I'm pretty sure he just created Zane.
He is both creating this reality and it always existed.
The first thing he says is time doesn't exist in this place it blurs with itself and the primary reality.
The order of things doesn't matter. Things in this reality can bleed into our reality out of sync.
Events can happen for Darling in a specific order, but the consequences for our reality are random throughout our realities concept of time.
I'm pretty sure this is early Zane and he manifested him. Zane is saying the things Darling wants for a reason.
it's basically "Drawing Hands" from M.C. Escher ^^
@@ChampionsOfLight and Ahti the cosmic janitor to make sure things occur as they should?
Which would mean the FBC essentially serves him. Making sure things go as they need to. Which kind of makes sense. We know that the true job of The Director is to be Ahti's Assistant.
@@Fatikis42 in my little head canon door is a manifestation of space and anti a metaphor for time ^^
I'm missing some big chunks without having played Alan Wake 2, but that theory makes sense based on what I know.
thats the beauty of the RCU .. everybody is right until specifically stated otherwise in the games which is rare :P
I think Tom Zane might just be a nice guy
same, he's like a machine god at this point just helping everyone out lol
I feel like the only time he wasn't was when alan shot him. He had sinister vibes there but otherwise he seems like a chill dude
Seems like alan escaped and zane is just using someone else to help him escape the dark place,probably gonna be the basis for control 2 or alan wake 3
what if this happened prior to everything else?! :P
like in quantum physics there are only interpretations, pls keep it civil@@LeocaprioDinardo
Dr. Darling is another Alan Wake or look a like.
so does this imply darling and tom had a hand in effectively making alan wake and probably making him the most powerful being that we know of, and if so, to escape the dark place spiral?.
see you in 13 years, maybe getting an answer to that ^^
I missed this in the final draft episode and can’t go back to that room after we sing 😭
you find it in the oceanview hotel :)
@@ChampionsOfLight ohhhhhhh I thought there was one at an in the dressing room where the number 665 was flashing and that I missed it!!! Thankssssssssss
Interesting that Darling needs to escape from a place that he apparently entered willingly with Hedron...
Well hedron is a resonance interdimensional entity. It would probably have no clue what the dark place is but also it’s probably guiding him. But then again Hedron is already mysterious in of itself and seemingly benevolent unlike the Hiss which wants to spread like a disease. And remember how that went when Dr. Hartman was afflicted by both Hiss and Dark Presence
How'd he get into the dark place? The ocean view maybe
Can we get a wellness check on Darling please?
Is this particular scene connected to Control somehow? Where is Darling in this clip? Where are they trying to escape from?
asking all the right questions :P
@ChampionofLight2023
I didnt play Alan Wake so was wondering if maybe someone had some i sights i didnt. Eagerly waiting for Control 2.
@@aaron_aplin nope .. these are all question we all have :P assumptions can be made but nobody really knows ^^
Well this is curious, darling is not longer a human , his a entity and he suppose to help jesse
maybe Darling was Polaris all along :P
@@ChampionsOfLight Jesse refers to Polaris as 'she' tho
alien guardian angels are unisex in my book :P@@sunny_senpai but yeah its not a real theory from me .. just a low effort brain teaser that probably will lead nowhere :P
Have you found the 3rd one yet?
I can't help but feel like this is a bad development.
Given what we know about Zane by the end of Alan Wake 2? He seems more intent on abusing the Dark Place's power to warp reality than anything else.