having an older “golden child” and abusing a younger “scapegoat” siblings is actually a key characteristic of many households of a narcissistic abusive parent.
Yes. In my family My brother was the first born and treasured by my mother. My sister was the baby and treasured for that. I was the middle child and was worthless. I was the first daughter and my dad doted on me for a while, which ironically made my mother hate me. She had some strange jealousy thing going on that she seemed to think i was trying to steal my dad from her. She made the first 18 years of my life a living hell. I have learned that it's a thing sometimes for women to be jealous of their first daughters. Day after my 18th bday I moved 100 miles away to break free but still kind of felt under the thumb somehow. I have cPTSD and a long list of mental health issues to juggle thanks to the torture she put me through. Gas lighting is brutal. I only managed to finally feel free when she died last year and i felt guilt for a while for feeling free instead of grief. As soon as the little boy was so calm about what he'd done, my first thought was wondering what his situation at home had been. It's so sad on all sides.
Perfect example of parental failure. Also as a side note, it's not unusual for an abusive parent to select just one of their children to be the subject of their awful parenting. Nor is it unusual for the unabused siblings to not be able to recognize what's happening around them. Toxic.
I was thinking this myself. It seems logical that the mother and sister both abused him. Mothers like that tend to enable their daughters to be the same way, then the daughter just parrots moms talking points to the police.
I found that part funny to, a dog dieing is SAS but I know what you're saying. The grandma is acting like no big deal, you'd think it's the father's mom then.
The calmness of everyone in the room when the cops first walk in tells so much. As if everyone knew the cause of chaos, the mother and the fights between her and joey was finally over.
He was asked to get firewood, and do his laundry. And what, she deserved to be shot in the head because of a literal slap fight 6 years ago? Haha, thats more telling of his character, and people in this comment section.
leftist mindset. being mad at someone doesn't justify murder. he wasn't "abused", he was given houseold chores he didn't want to do. very ironic that leftists hate parenting but want the state to be their ultimate parents. you think they'll task you with logwood retrieval? no, they'll send you to the gulags at gun point
My mom has bipolar and my god it was insane growing up with her. There were so many mood swings. She was an absolute sweet nurturing mother one day and insanely angry for no reason the next.
Am I a horrible person for not feeling sorry for the mother? His life can´t be worse now than it would have been with her for the rest of his childhood. I know exactly how he felt and the anger that built up over the years.
To be perfectly honest, judging by everything regarding the case, and especially the reactions of the other adults, it sounds like the mother got what was coming to her. It's just a damn shame the poor kid wasn't able to be removed from that toxic environment before he resorted to the last resort.
No. I think a lot of us that comment on these types of true crime videos have seen a gambit of similar situations. Not that we're "forensic therapists" but I think we have a sense about the people we see. So I 100% agree with you and do not think you are wrong for feeling that way. I feel so bad for Joey, sweet and honest kid. I think his punishment is actually a bit on the harsh side.
He saw his parents fighting; his mom verbally and physically abused him. His dad let him have his guns in his room 🤦🏽♀️ Just all around horrible parenting. HORRIBLE. I hope Joey has gotten extensive therapy for his issues.
I don't think he was abused I grew up with my cousin that had the exact same anger issues growing up all started at a young age. This boy never once talked about physical abuse.
I felt bad until i heard he tried to kill his sister Shawna and she cried and begged him not too. She's traumatized. She wants him locked up forever. She fears he's gonna kill her. Poor girl. 😥
@@deant6361 "common sense" is a myth lol. So woman mentally tortures her son and probably husband too (not that he's innocent) and allows him to have guns in the room 😂 darwinism at it's finest
Very unnerving. You just lost your mother/daughter/ wife due to the actions of her ten year old child. This must have been a very toxic household for no one to shed a tear about it.
I feel for this kid, man. I grew up in a similar situations where the arguments started from nothing and the abuse was serious even though I could never really explain why. No one could understand why he'd shoot her for calling him lazy, but as soon as I heard that she had BD I knew. It's really hard to explain to people who haven't experienced it, and I don't mean in the way where people can't empathize. It's really just hard to communicate why the abuse messes with your mind so much, especially at a young age.
I've been estranged from my mom for 12 years. I was the scapegoat with verbal and mental abuse. When I got in the medical field is when life made sense. I can see patterns from maternal grandmother to my mom, and a handicap sister (diagnosed with BP and borderline personality and behavior disorder; all 3 are hereditary per a doctor I worked with). It is insane growing up in this chit!! I feel for this kid and hope he and his sister have overcome obstacles & doing well.
They just attack you from any angle that works, in a way that can be later framed where they were "innocently" saying this or that. Trying to generate a reaction, to poison the people around you against you.
As a child of an emotionally, mentally, and verbally abusive father, my heart goes out to Joey. I feel so sorry for him. It shouldn’t have had to come to this. It wasn’t his fault that his mother was a TERRIBLE person and mother. When you push someone too far, the results will be devastating.
Exactly. I haven't been driven to murder anyone and I don't think I will, but have been driven into severe panic attacks just from being screamed at and have been driven to cope in awful ways. Abusive parents really ruin their kids and Joey is unfortunately a kid who just has had enough. I hope he's doing okay wherever he is.
So you are a killer also? How can you say killing your own mother is ok? Law forces should check youtube comments. Because a lot of killers like you commenting here.
Nope. He's a selfish lil' sh**. He WOULD have my sympathy if he hadn't shot his unarmed mother like a coward. I honestly could barely watch...NOT because of the subject matter...but because of how NICELY the cops were treating the little spawn.
I reckon if I see this quote repeated one more time I will hunt the poster down and ..... gosh some originality please .... can't anyone think for themselves anymore?
two lessons here: 1. don't give your 10 y/o a gun, especially not a rifle. 2. if you do give them a gun, don't disrespect them and what they do for you on a daily basis.
10 year old with a gun in his room. My Father trained me how to use guns and proper safety. But, ALL guns in the house were secured in a Lock Box and my Father was the only one with the Key. This is Parental IRRESPONSIBILTY.
No parental responsibility is having nothing to do with guns. The only time my kids have ever seen a gun is in a movie and I can guarantee that neither of them are ever going to get shot. Can you? I don't care how 'responsible' you think you are, the fact that guns are even part of your life says it all
We had guns in the house when I was growing up, and they were always loaded. We all knew they were loaded and never to mess with them in the house. My friends came over and we never fooled with firearms, because they had been taught right, too. But we were normal; this kid was not. If I was his dad he would not have access to a gun, but I can see him knifing someone instead. Or even just beating someone to death when he got a little bigger. Glad I never had a kid or grandkid like that. I am 77 years old and still have guns. If someone breaks in I sure can't win a fistfight.
More like parental abuse. a caretaker should set the standard for responsibility and lead by example. her fatass couldnt fetch some wood. who knows what other things she forced her kids to do. theyre lives not grunts to fill your overwhelmingly lazy habits. it was all bad parenting and i hope the kids were put in a better situation.
You can tell the responding officer never been through and has never thought he would respond to a kid killing his mom dude was just as shocked as the kid
This happened early 2011, so the kid was probably born in 2000 or the first 48-hours of 2011. He's in his early 20's now. Very few LEOs had body cameras in 2011. They didn't reslly take off in the U.S. until 2014. So I'm surprised this rural town in Ohio managed to have them 3 years ahead!
I grew up with a kid that was the sole target of his mother's abuse, he had a big heart with his friends but a bigger temper with anyone that made him feel like he was threatened in any sort. He's doing life in prison for killing a man over an argument about a truck. I hate trying to imagine where he would be now if he hadn't been so neglected and abused.
Was it an accident? I’ve heard too many stories of someone throwing a punch then accidentally killing someone. I’d assume his anger and words though is what really got him life if that’s the case.
I was abused by my single mother growing up. It feels like you will never escape. 11 years of not talking to her and I’m here to say one day you will escape it. Stay strong to anyone out there suffering.
I also didnt see a way out of my mother's abuse. Somehow I managed to endure it until I was old enough to get a job and leave but I cant even estimate how many hours I spent crying and being desperate and miserable. Physical violence is unnaceptable but there are things that hurt even more because she never laid a hand on me but trust me, I still have nightmares about the things she used to tell me.
Parents are allowed to tell their kids off and go on at them. Because your mum asked you to do a job is no reason to shoot her. Some kids are just horrible and say they were abused when in reality the kids just doesn't want to listen to the parent.
What are some signs to look for as a parent? I'm a single dad and my boy always wants to spend time with me instead. My ex seems like a good mom tho but just curious what exactly I should look out for
Man, I feel bad for that kid. This is the only case that genuinely made me cry. No kid should be submitted to this kind of abuse. Look at that house, they way he was treated, learning difficulties… Of course he wanted to be at his friend’s house all the time, no wonder, anyone under those circumstances would wish nothing else but to escape.
yep. I did the same. one summer break I stayed almost every single night at my friend's house because being home was too hard, too scary and stressful. I wish nobody had to think like that as a child, how to escape a parent who is abusive
The abuse Joey suffered is clear. There are so many layers to this. I can sympathize with Joey and his abusive mother. You have a woman who was clearly mentally unstable. In my opinion, it seems like there's more on the surface when they all mention how she was unusually crueler to Joey. I wonder if she sustained some type of trauma that was causing her to lash out more at her son. It seemed as though the relationship with her daughter was somewhat normal... 10 years in a cage being poked at seems awful to imagine.
That kid sounds like a victim of narcissistic abuse and finally hit his emotional breaking point. To young to leave, to naive to know better and went with the one option he had left. I lived with a narcissist for 12 years. 19-33. I was an adult with the power to walk away. My sympathy goes to the kid.
A lot of us were subjected to the same or worse. I wish there was a definite trigger that makes him different than me. Because I never once considered murder even for a second.
@@starfoxe3231 I thought I was marrying a nymphomaniac but after the wedding the nympho left and the maniac stayed. She thought she took my breath away. But in reality I was being suffocated by her bullsht
@@prostyle1626 my mom was loving when i was a kid. now she is a monster. from the sounds of it, it seems like you're in a better place in life, so i can't wait to be just like you. also you might consider being a lyricist cause "the nympho left and the maniac stayed" is a really good play on words.
No child kills a parent. Period. I was in that situation. Where is everyone getting the abusive bad parent from. She told hi. To do his chores n he was disrespectful n did not obey. N thot it easier to kill her.
As a grown man who experienced physical and psychological childhood abuse, I feel for that kid. I know exactly what was going through his mind, it's a scary and hopeless place to be.
Exactly, even as 31 years old i still felt the hopelessness from the abuse i had as a kid. Sometimes i feel so angry just from remebering everything and everyone from my childhood and just wanted to kill everyone. Little twisted i know, but seeing this kind of video help a little by knowing that i am not alone
But you have to consider the fact that if there was no easy access to guns in the house this probably never would’ve happened. How stupid were the parents to leave loaded guns in the kids bedroom that’s bizarro world !!
@@steve-uq5tl that is usually what it is in these cases.. people want stricter gun laws. The laws that are already on the books would stop almost all of these cases if they were followed. You are supposed to keep guns away from children.
My brother would've done that to our mom too. She always made him feel terrible, the physically and the mental abuse was outstanding. Now 40 years later he has forgiven her. I literally stopped him for 40 years to not harm his own mother.
Why did a 10 year old have a loaded gun just in his room? How were all the relatives so chill as this kid is admitting to killing his mother? Why did no one get him a lawyer first? I feel like he was definitely verbally/emotionally abused by the mom but man this is a tough case.
I can not thank you enough for the captioning done across all channels. As a hard of hearing viewer, your content is some of the only videos like this I can watch because of the captions. Almost no other channels caption this type of content. EDIT: A lot of responses are coming from well meaning people saying most youtube videos have CC. While this is technically correct, that would be auto generated CCs, as someone that does turn them on and use them on every video they're available(unless the creator has supplied their own CC) they are spotty at best. If you would like to experience what I mean, turn on auto generated captions for this video and experience how in the first 20 seconds autoCC does not recognize speech is occurring during the 911 call. So if EWU had not included the words on screen, I would not know a single thing that was said during that part and I assume it would be like that throughout the rest of the video. AutoCC is great if there is minimal noise outside of the person speaking, however in many cases autoCC is simply awful.
Totally agree! I’m not hard of hearing but take longer to process what’s being said and the captions mean I am actually able to understand what’s going on. Love to see it 👏
personally for me i like captations in general i guess im weird, they also help when i wake up and i wanna put stuff in my youtube history to watch later, i can click on the video without my speakers on and get afew minutes on if i wanna watch it later or not. i cant really think of a game where i dont have captations on.
Joey is about 23 years old now, he could be out in his 30's if hes mentaly ok. Not much people deserve a seccond change after a crime like this. But then, nobody deserves to be emotionaly or physically abused as a child. The thing is, while being interrogated, he said "she just went "plop'. Thats the desturbing part. He wont be able to erase that from his memories, his mother could haunt him forever if he doesnt get usefull treatment while in jail, as much as they did before.
I think the obvious question is, what is a 10 year old kid doing with a loaded gun in his room? Was there any positive guidance? He seems so lost. My heart goes out to him.
I'm fairly certain the mother was hoping he'd use it on himself and it backfired. It's exceedingly common for women who experience spousal abuse to turn against their own sons, especially if said son was a result of one of those relationships. The kid then becomes a danger to women, creates life with someone he's covered in bruises, and that ends up starting the cycle of hate all over again.
In areas like this it's not uncommon for parents to get their children a .22 at around this age. I had one, my mother's neighbor got their kid a .22 for christmas when he was around 12. Step father's siblings all had rifles in their early teens. Super common. And super stupid. Taking your kids out target shooting and teaching them safety and marksmanship and all that: Good. Letting them have a rifle they can grab and load at any time: Bad
If the evidence pic is correct, it was at least 3 guns in his room, along with plenty of ammo. 10 year old kid who has had severe problems since at least the age of 6, shouldn't have had even a bb gun in his room. This one is on the poor parenting list, from the joint butt in the ashtray to the filthy living conditions, this was almost inevitable.
Case of abuse brought to its most horrific conclusion. All of the family bar his sister (not unusual for abusive parents to favorite one child over another) seemed eerily calm. They ALL knew why it happened. Even his dad. If there is any fault here, it lies with them for not reporting it and acting sooner. Hope Joey one day recovers and though he is kept in confinement for his own psychiatric wellbeing, at least he does not face serious charges.
Free healthcare isn’t possible. You expect nurses and doctors to work for free? Sounds like slavery but there are programs this kid will be put in that will be paid through programs and tax payer funded. There’s no reason for him to be there for life. He needs help and if not a danger, has to go to school so he can live a normal life. He snapped after abuse.
First and foremost the fault is with the mother for the abuse in the first place. Secondly with the father for not protecting his son. Thirdly with the family.
@@Tarzanjunglekungfu the mother was mentally ill; the father was mentally blase thinking a 10 yr old shd b able to have guns in his house/bdrm, incredibly NAIVE!!
Yep, the CHILD asked for an attorney which says a lot. Not ONE adult even protected him in that regard and there were several of them present; this kid has had to fend for himself and was failed by the adults in his life. That much is obvious.
@@amiblack8294 grandma was literally right there when he asked for one. She even told him what you would call "the man that would help him". Poor kids. He reached his breaking point. I get that this was a small town in rural Ohio, but the sheriff and the deputies should have stopped questioning him right then.
They should but they wont. They will basically force confessions out of kids and use that in juvenile court since the juvenile court doesnt care about rights or case laws and arent under any sort of strict guidance about children like regular courts have a guidance and multiple agencies regulating them to reduce and drop charges for African Americans. This kid was obviously abused and fsiled by the system and all the adults in his life.
I grew up with an extremely abusive mother that is disturbingly similar to the victim in this case and this really showed me how lucky I am to have escaped her before it got this bad. Count your blessings, folks. Even your trauma could be worse and you could be worse off.
I feel for this kid. I suffered the same kind of abuse. It NEVER stopped, not even in my sleep. She would come in and tip over my dresser because the socks weren’t organized by color. I had no one to help. I can still feel the anger, the hopelessness. I don’t know how I didn’t kill her, I thought about constantly. If karma is real, she will burn to death. These predators are everywhere.
That's the thing that's hard, you can't explain those things to people without them minimizing it and saying "Oh so you're just mad that your parent told you to do chores boo-hoo." They're incapable of perceiving the severity of emotional abuse. The reality is parents like this would smack you upside the head and smash your most cherished possessions because you didn't make your bed in the morning. A kid tries to talk to a professional about their parent screaming at them for the tiniest of mistakes and it's blown off as a parent being strict and a child being disobedient. That's the issue. You CAN'T be obedient, no matter how hard you try, it's NEVER good enough. It's a persistence and escalation issue that they always fail to understand. People describe this kid as a sweetheart everywhere else because that's the thing, his obedience is way more than enough for most people, and it's a coping mechanism that was beat into him to try to appease his mother as much as possible. I know this because I was the same way, mother painted a picture of me that I was a raging out of control kid that wanted to hurt her, but every other adult in my life that I met just didn't see it.
@@Sammysapphira Unfortunately spot on. I’m sorry you went through the shit too. I even had a child psychiatrist when I was 10 tell me that I was a misogynist. A 10yo. He must have gotten the impression from me that I didn’t like women. He was right. I was 28 before I could even speak to one without being terrified.
OMG...my mother would dump all my drawers and rip everything out of the closet and I would stay up all night fixing it and then had to go to school the next morning. I thought I was the only one.
I'm sorry to all the children out there that suffered from narcissistic parents that blamed you for every mistake they made, every little thing in life that upset them... it wasn't your fault.
@@randomrecipes5007 try telling me that again after youve lived my life, its been years since that part of my life, but if i ever saw my step mother again, i just might kill her and i wouldnt be a bit sorry about it
I was also abused by my mother and bullied at school every day. I came really close to what this kid did multiple times, but I stopped myself. Nobody really understands what constant pain, helplessness, and suffering can do to a little kid. You keep your head down but at some point it all just starts erupting and you go into a fit of rage. If you constantly poke a kitten it will lash out at you at some point - it's a natural reaction. I'm 28 now and I'm seriously messed up from the abuse I had to endure. I never felt love and I am completely dead inside. I'm also a complete loner. I did not choose to be like this and neither did this poor kid. Society doesn't care about us.
Same. I nearly reached a snapping point where I'd either be in prison, or you know what happens when somebody doesn't want life behind bars. I realized myself that I shouldn't looking to be harming others, especially those who hadn't even seen me before. Thankfully I'm better.
I know but f society u need to start caring for your self. If everyone else failed u don't fail your self. Find your self in something. And conspiring english is not my native and I absolutely hate to use it f it u see somebody cares even if is some strange from Bosnia. Day by day step by step and at least on end u can say u tried your best. Praying that better days are coming for both of us my unknown friend 🙏
Same i also almost snapped because of abuse at home, getting beaten every single day and bullying i wanted to stabb my classmates because i couldn't handle it anymore... Today i fell no emotions have no friends completely isolated from everything i live in a apartment full of trash and i probably will die soon because i have nothing to live for I am just a mess.......
@@x-tr-ip-py-x755 I feel you brother. Riding motorcycles helps me a lot, so you can try that. I only live for the idea of traveling Europe with a motorcycle one day. Until then, I refuse to give up.
Same here. I tried running away. I tried offing myself. Then when I went into my teens, it was just depression and apathy the whole time. I guess I've just accepted how it is, approaching mid-life. The verbal and mental abuse left me with trust-issues and low self-esteem, which goes some way to explain why I don't have friends or a wife. Always trying to get over it, but those early years really run deep.
@@abefroman9848 gruel was the shit he pulled off a fake reg sticker . It was on a car we bought from a stranger . This officer who is that fucking kind. In my personal life so many times I’ve been pulled over and they have been extra kind that nobody deserves that much kindness
This is just tragic all around. You can tell this kid is not some dead-eyed, black souled psychopathic killer or something, he's not one of those child killers who puts a chill down your spine to even see them. He sure didn't seem directly hostile, violent, or even angry to others, and no one in his house was scared or even slightly worried around him, or acted like he would even be dangerous to them. He's obviously a abused kid with severe issues from his upbringing, as well as anger issues, but I genuinely don't believe this kid is irredeemable or something. He's broken, and I can't imagine the insane years of therapy he needs and is hopefully getting--but he doesn't have to let this define him. The ultimate way to get back at your abuser is to live a good, happy life. To leave them in the dust of the past where they belong. I pray this child finds his way, as he is clearly lost but not at all gone
My father is a narcissist. Since I was a child he verbally abused me. Told me my whole life I ruined everything. That anger, resentment, and self-hatred boils until it spills over. Next thing you know, there’s an object in your hand, and you want to hurt them as much as they hurt you. It’s truly haunting feeling that amount of rage. I feel for this boy.
I feel that. I used to worry that I'd kind of black out & come to covered in blood holding something heavy. When there's so much anger & nothing is done to stop it or heal it then you really don't have control of yourself with all that anger boiling up inside
@@caracalcontinuum3118 I’m so sorry! It often feels like your alone and no one understands how draining it is to deal with someone like that. I hope you’re doing the best you can love. Stay strong.
I’m horrified how normal abuse at home is, so much people are talking about their own experiences. This needs to stop.. my heart goes out to all abused or mistreated people
Usually the people who abuse their kids psychologically don´t realize how much it hurts their children. Often times it´s about stuff that adults won´t bother at all just because they are independent and can just walk away and go on with their lives. Children often don´t have many options but to accept stuff because they have to stay with their parents.
@@leoisso7033 could be. But I think it depends on the degree of abuse or mistreatment. A lot of parents don’t see their child’s as a whole human being and don’t care about feelings or other perspectives. That’s a huge issue and setup for mental health issues etc, in my opinion..
It has to do mainly with there not being decent, trustworthy statistics on the number of anti socials, narcissists, psychopaths, border line, paranoid, schizophrenics there are in our societies. Those are mostly the abusers. They are not always aware of them being abusive, from their perspective (which is a warped one) the victims had it coming, it's their fault. They can't self reflect unless it's in a self serving way. There are FAR more people suffering such disorders than what stats are saying. Thank you ! I was also a victim, multiple times and lost my older sister to domestic violence. Really appreciate your kind words.
Somebody please hug that kid and show him that there are good people in this world. Please get him away from any of his toxic family. The way the husband and his grandma react with zero emotion throughout the whole ordeal is absolutely frightening. Please find him a place to get a mental positive rebirth and then find a new home for him.
My father was the meanest human being I’ve ever known in my entire life. I’m almost 60 years old now and I still deal with the horrible things he did to me, my Mom, and all 4 of my siblings. I’m the only one of their 5 kids who survived them. All my siblings are addicts, didn’t raise their kids, and they’ve all been both incarcerated and institutionalized. I reached my breaking point at 17… had my Dad on his knees with my Mom begging me not to do it as she stood there with her face bloody from just being beaten. She was just as much to blame for not leaving him but I was a kid and couldn’t understand their abuse was 50/50. I thought it was us kids and my Mom against my father. Nope. It was us against the both of them which I leaned through extensive therapy which I sought when I left home at 19. I’ve been exactly where this kid went…but I just didn’t have the nerve. I’m glad I didn’t now…but he was scared of me after that so I’m not sorry for “almost.”
I've also been in this position, I threatened my father with a knife, thinking it was us against him. They split and I was left with my mother till I was 23 and I finally escaped. 10 years no contact and I have better understanding of what went on. My father was abusive but he was also goaded by her and she was more vicious. I've been so close towards both of them, all of the abuse was just too much to stand. I hope Joey gets out someday, I don't like that they are keeping him indefinitely. People don't understand what it is like to be "raised" by abusive people who scream and attack each other. That is your filter on the world, that is how you are taught to behave and then they wonder why it happens, a 10 year old does not know how to deal with the levels of stress he was under. Christ the instant I saw the mother, I can see the nastiness in her. Narcissistic abusers like that all have the same look.
same by my step dad. i never went to therapy but i did ask the question later in life.... why did she stay?? she wasn't violent never hit him, i know she was very scared of him we all were. I remember us laughing and having a good time, and as soon as he interred the room you could hear a pin drop we all immediately got quiet. he was more physical with her, but we got to see it. 52 now and to be honest i have no childhood memories past age 14 or so literally anything younger than that i have no memories. I may see or hear some random thing that flashes a brief vague memory, but that's it. I never did drugs or drank thank god. been married 23 years never raised a hand. But i can get mad at people, i will not let people run over or take advantage of me. my wife has asked why don't you go to a therapist to try and unlock what you have blocked out. My response is always, if it was bad enough that your mind blocked it out....would you really want to remember???? Hats off to you my friend hope life after you dad was a great one.
Abuse is NEVER 50/50!! That is an incredibly mean attempt for victim blaming. Yes, an abused spouse should leave but there are often real problems to overcome and not everybody finds a solution. If you learned that falsehood in therapy I’d say therapy gone wrong.
@@Celisar1 if you’re watching your kids get beaten and making your kids get up night after night to defend your life with their bodies by standing in the way and taking the beating to give you a break and you don’t leave, then you’re being a rotten mother. And if you leave and get your kids out of it and they start to have hope for their lives and then you take them back to the same abusive situation to start living it all over again, you’re a rotten mother. And when your kids leave home and move you in with them rent free and get you out of the abuse and then you choose to go back, you’re being a rotten mother. Don’t speak on what you know absolutely nothing about. She wanted the chaos and she loved him more than she loved her kids…and not one but THREE therapist have told me those exact same words. If you’re defending a mother getting out and taking her kids back to it after letting them see what life was like without living with a monster, then you must be the same kind of mother.
@@kelliesharpe1067 Hahaha exactly right. She is definitely that shitty parent trying to justify being with a waste of air POS. i feel sorry for her kids.
How did they even interrogate a 10 year old without his father present? What I see is a child with a learning disability who was being terrorized every day of his life by his parents and saw no other way out. Even Grandma, who he obviously adored, watched her treat him poorly and did nothing to help him. This is just sad. Everyone loses. 😞
Grandma was there, she was a legal guardian that didn't refuse the line of questioning for the little boy.. like I understand your point but legally grandma would've had to say something
For real, his mom was medicated for several mental health issues and he was left to live with her until it all went to hell. This kid was screwed even if he didn't shoot his mom.
@@budgetbuilt8838 ohh okay that makes sense then, I didn’t know she had custody. If Grandma was his legal guardian there was likely a reason for it, and that reason could have been child abuse or neglect. Courts don’t just take away your full custody and give it to your Mother like Leilani Simon. They order split custody and move on to the next case they don’t want to deal with. You also don’t have to make a statement until you speak to a lawyer, you just have to call 911 to get the person help. That is your 5th amendment right not to incriminate yourself in any civil or criminal matter.
No child kills a parent. Period. I was in that situation. Where is everyone getting the abusive bad parent from. She told hi. To do his chores n he was disrespectful n did not obey. N thot it easier to kill her.
Imagine allowing a ten year old unfettered access to guns and ammunition. Kids that young have yet to develop the mental capacity to understand that their actions can cause permanent effects for others. Giving them guns is a recipe for disaster.
How can you integrate someone back into society from jail? You have to be taught how to be a decent human being. Something his parents didnt model for him.
A 10 year old, with anger issues for years and a mother that keeps pushing him, all while he has a gun ready to grab (which I still cannot get over btw, with his age and it actually being ready to shoot). This just spelled disaster in so many ways...
@@Managable_Mayhem yes he does, but he is a product of his environment. At least he was trying to get away from it by staying with a friend. Many older people with knowledge and life experiences go mad and kill out of rage and jealousy. A little kids flying into a rage is no different. Except the fact that he showed control when his sister spoke with him he snapped out of it. The child needs help. It's too bad he had to snap b4 he could get any.
That’s just heartbreaking,he just snapped.Only 10 years old,I think he really lost it without realizing the full consequences of his action. His mum sounded abusive.I feel sad for this child,his horrible environment made him do it.The whole family does not seem to react much to her death all,like she would be missed much and the abuse would finally stop. The whole family absolutely failed this child.
My blood just boiled when Joey said he should have a lawyer & the cop told him a lawyer can help him whether he talks with the detectives or not. That doesn't even make sense & would lead a child to feel safe being interrogated. That was really sneaky.
Cops are trained to violate our rights be it a 10 year old or 10 month old. They dont care. Just about getting a case closed and a conviction. Courts dont uphold the law they uphold their cop employees and the government. Public defender just works for the court may as well be the prosecutor.
Interrogators are sneaky. Joey asked for “the person who helps”. Aka an attorney. They took advantage of the situation. It makes me cringe when people talk too much to a police officer or interrogator. if you get arrested keep your mouth closed. Talk to an attorney. The cops will try to be nice and accommodating to get you to talk. Don’t fall for it. You are entitled to an attorney. I hope Joey is doing better.
@@tycielones3294 He's 10 and already had a history of behavioral issues - and the parents gave him loaded weapons to keep in his own bedroom. I highly doubt he fully comprehended the permanence of what he was doing when he did it. He shouldn't have shot her, but ffs this never would have happened if not for the parents negligence.
@@robincharles7057 ur right about the whole situation but he knew that a gun would kill his mom. My sister is 9 and knows that u think my mom sat her down and told her guns kill no u know that already at that age guns are dangerous.
@@christinewatson8098 yea sure I am the uneducated one🤣 I know exactly what I am talking about u should feel sorry for urself that ur parents never cared about u to get u an education. I watch and experience things like this all the time. I am so into true crime so u best believe I know what I am talking about.
Telling your child to do their chores and their laundry is abuse? What about the bus driver was he also abusive? The administrator at school that was attacked, were they also abusive? This child has anger issues, the mom did not do anything wrong.
I read a book, 'A Boy Called It' or named it and it described a mother's rage directed at just one of her children. The father left her and knew of her mistreatment but did nothing about it. His best revenge was growing up and being successful enough to write a book about how he survived. If there hadn't been guns in the house, perhaps this youngman's life would have taken another route.
I read it decades ago. Couldn't put it down for disbelief that this could actually happen, but had to put it down for I couldn't see through the continuous tears. Back then, men brought home the 'bread' and women took care of home. That father didn't have a chance in that time period. Congratulations to Dave for saving himself; a pioneer for evolution . The name of the first book in the trilogy is A CHILD CALLED IT. Author Dave Pelzer.
Hell yeah dude, read that in middle school and it's the only book that made me cry as I read it. The description of the literal prison the child describes, ruled with an iron fist as those around either mock him or are powerless to do anything. Locking him in the bathroom with bleach and ammonia, whipping stuff at him or beating him for trying to reach out.
If you witness your significant other or family member abusing someone in any way and you do nothing to stop it, you are just as bad as the abuser. Period. I don’t believe for a second that these family members weren’t aware of the abuse inflicted on him by the hands of his own mother.
He never said he was physically abused ever only verbally abused if that. Sounds like she made him the man of the house by default & he didn’t want to do what she said
@@xoangelicaf0523 Yeah let’s let a kid be a man right with no happy playful life as a actual kid ? What kind of logic is that ? Your speeding a child with no development in their brain with no play or real child life at all,He was probably f miserable.Poor kid.
It is so DAMN normalized in the US that an unsecured weapon will be easily available, even to young kids. Also, how can the dad let the kids live this way?
Wow. This could’ve been me 12 years ago with my abusive parents. I ultimately didn’t because I knew no one would care as usual, I would be further punished and I still wouldn’t get the help I needed. I lose either way.
Hey I hope you have found a path to peace. As a child none of what happens to us is our fault but it burdens us for the rest of our life. Hope you are better each day
@@phuchyouh7171 That child was most definitely not a psychopath. If he was, he would be proud of his actions and completely composed. Joey was in shock, emotional at times and shaken up about what happened.
As the previous goldenchild of a highly narcissistic n abusive parent, i am not surprised by the sister's naivety. It took seeing my other parent bleeding infront of me and eventually my sibling attempting suicide to really bring me to the reality of the manipulation i was swaddled in. Heck, my mind even went so far to block memories of events i was seen present at by multiple people.. maybe his sister's mind did somethin similar. Mental health is heart breakingly neglected in our society even to this modern day...
all these people knew exactly how she treated the boy, so it was no surprise. but they all did nothing and just let it happen over and over until a little boy was pushed to the edge
This is so sad, that family really needed help in every way possible. I can't imagine hitting my son or pull him by his hair and talking to him like that. I hope he gets the counseling he needs so when he gets out things get better for him and his family
@@lillianwright2641 because he never mentioned once that he was physically abused and also I have a cousin just like him that have really bad anger issues from a young age. That boy would have done this to anyone on a bad day with access to a weapon. He gets mad whenever anytime he is told to do something. His mom probably yelled all the time because he stressed her out with how much he wouldn't listen and caused problems every where he went.
No mother deserves to die at the hands of her child. Maybe she wasn't the best mum, although I didn't hear anything in this story that said she was physically abusive or a bad mum. Maybe if there were no guns in the home this woman would still be alive. Very sad indeed.
If this video struck a bad chord with anyone because you have anger issues and scream at your kids, or know someone who does, PLEASE INTERVENE! Before it’s too late. My Momma had a cruel side to her, to all of us kids. I had PTSD flashbacks of her abuse one day when triggered, and it was over 10 years after I had left home. My siblings and I still have issues from a sour childhood. It wasn’t fair. That being said, EVERY child deserves a loving and mostly peaceful atmosphere at home. So don’t be afraid to speak up to the right person. You might save a life, without even knowing it. At the least, you could help make someone’s better.
I felt for that father, when he said "i mean, this is really hard to say stuff about her that will make it seem like I'm trying to make her sound mean" Idk his position, but as a man who now has full custody over his children, due to the chaotic toxic Abuse/behavior from their mother. I know that for me, the hardest thing after our separation was speaking about her honestly. I was and STILL am afraid to talk about things from my past with her. While in the relationship and during the ten years after leading up to me finally being able to obtain custody, I was seen as the lier, the abuser, I was known by so many people as a dead beat who used drugs and beat women . I feel actual fear telling people about who she actually was because so many people have sat right there and listened only to later sit in a court room and tell a judge that im just a manipulator or spiteful. Or I'd hear from someone else how they'd said something along those lines. My kids lived with her through so much, she had so many people under her thumb, for ten years I would go for emergency custody after she'd dropped the kids off and disappeared from earth for a month, two months. I tried 5times to pull the kids out of state custody, moved entire states twice, only to watch the kids go back to her. Even after things like my son telling his teacher his mom threw knives at him, or the time someone saw their mother posted an add on Craigslist asking anyone to come take the kids for a while to give her a break. My kids vanished from my life for three years, no news on them at all. Finally I was informed by Florida state socal services that they were taken again, and this time I was surprisingly taken seriously as a father. Oops I didn't realize that I was on a tangent, well if you got to the end of this... yeah, I felt those words that guy spoke in that moment.
I’m not a parent but I am a nurse. I saw too many children brought into the ER for abuse and a lot of times it was the father who brought the child/children in. It used to make me mad when the police would point the finger at the fathers thinking they were the ones responsible. I usually had to make them leave so myself and the doctor could finish what had to be done. Trust me when I say I believe what you are saying. I just pray that your ordeal is over and that your children are finally safe and loved.
I feel for you! My son was taking his ex to court for his daughter. Ex was always saying bad things about him to his little girl. It hurt her so bad. Every time she had to go back home from his weekend she would cry & sob that she didn't want to go back. He has custody of her now.
Went thought the same exact thing except i was the child and my narsasic mother lost custody of me and my sister. My mother told all her friend and everyone she knew over Facebook etc about how I'm a piece of shit and my father is. This went on for 3 years and it finally ended early this year as my father has full custody of me and my sister now. It still effects me somehow nearly a year later as I've been trying to find a second job after being laid off from my other job and local business owners that are friends with her won't hire me I assume over the bullshit she tells them.
@@greaniebeaniez3070 Jesus I am sorry you've had to / still have to go through that. It amazes me the way things work with us humans. No one cares what the child want especially in the event that they believe they understand what is best for them. Whether it is a guardian ad litem a judge social worker, it doesn't matter. What matters to them is their own personal point of view. It's because of this they are so easily manipulated by narcissistic type people.. It's very interesting to hear this coming from the children's perspective. I only have my own, and my kids are still so young they do not fully articulate their experiences or opinions. I do know that they do not want to go anywhere other then with me, and as much as I love that I also hate it. I hate that they could not just have what I had set out to give to them. A mother and a father who loved them, raise them, and did all the things that my parents did and their friends parents do. What Hurts the Most to me is that their mother just simply refuses to accept responsibility, to the point where she cannot change the way she treats people. Not even for her own kids, it's because of this that I consider narcissists to be cowards. So afraid to feel the slightest bit of emotional discomfort that they projected all out onto others in order to selfishly protect themselves.
@@albrnbsnus they are certainly safe and loved. But our judicial system is very ridiculous. I said in my comment how the kids mother would loose custody, and I'd watch her hardly have to jump through any hoops to get them back. Often it was within two weeks of them taking the kids, they'd bring them straight back. Not for me though, because during the beginning of my custody battle I was not informed straight away that I was only fighting for custody of my daughter, and needed to prove I was my son's father in order to fight for him. This was because I was only able to sign my daughter's birth certificate, and not my sons. Regardless once I found this out (as ludicrous as this may sound, it was some 9months into the court proceedings beforei learnedfor the first time i needed to provideproof i was my sons dad), I was able to provide proof of this through a past DNA test and child support orders. The state where I live performed a home study though, that home study was done for only my daughter. While the caseworker was inside of my home, through talking she discovered that both of my children will be moving up here with me, so she put in her documentation and paperwork that the home study was going to be performed for two children, therefore my home passed the home study for two children to move in with me. This home study went back to florida, (where the kids were living), i went back to court for several more months until eventually i "won" and my children moved up to live with me. and now 10 months later I learned that my son might, maybe, be removed from my home pending a new home study!!! Somehow some way they screwed up, and they do not care that New York Social Services said my home is okay for two children, that because their documents stated the home study was for one child, even though New York says it's good for two children I probably need a new home study done. Social services was supposed to be out of my life over 4 months ago. They were supposed to begin visiting my home the first month my kids moved here, 10 months ago. Instead they never showed up after my kids moved in with me. Not for 6 months, so when finally they did show up that's when the court started their 6 months visitation. Now it's been 10 months my children have lived with me, I should be on one of my last visits with the caseworker coincidentally tomorrow, but instead I'm going to have to continue to deal with social services until this new home study can be performed, all the while running the risk of them randomly removing my Son temporarily. Another big issue I have with this, is all I have ever done is try to be there for my children. I've never broken the law, do not drink alcohol or use drugs, I'm a contractor who owns his own business, own my own home, and have done nothing but attempt to have a life with my children and I have had to deal with social services for over 2 years,( between Court and the kids living with me it's almost). Every time I think I'm done with them, they find a new excuse to leech on to Our Lives. like they just can't let me go and can't let us move forward with our lives. That makes me so upset so often just the thought of it and I go on these long tangents online LOL
This poor kid was literally screaming and yelling for help for years. And, he suffered not only from his own afflictions , but from those of his mother too, in my humble opinion. Such a sad, sad case.
@@carolsmart238 that fact you actually stand up for this kid who murdered his mom lmfao. only because he had to do some chores. hopefully hes never released, he will eventually get mad and kill again.
@@carolsmart238 Whoa! Why leave the father out from the blame? Lol. If the mother has had to deal with this constantly then she would likely have had high stress levels. For all we know it could be that the grandmother and father were both enablers. The grandmother told the kid to grab the gun again and put it back in the room even after he had already pointed the rifle at the sister too and had dropped the gun on the couch. If someone shoots a person and drops the gun, you wouldn't tell him or her to get the gun and put it away lol You would grab the gun and keep it away from that person.
He shot his own mother he deserved a much more harsh punishment. So what she yelled at him a lit bit and called him lazy. He looks lazy. And her yeeling at him isn't worthy of death by this spoiled little brat. This is what's wrong with kids today no accountability. I feel sorry for the daughter that had to lose her mother and live that traumatic experience of seeing her die. Not the spoiled lazy little brat you can look at him and tell the only thing he does is eat and play video games smh
My mom and her boyfriend were both abusive when I was little and I took far, far worse than my sister did. When I became a teen, I occasionally thought of using his .22 to shoot him in his sleep, because I just couldn't stand how he hit my mom and threw her around, how he treated all of us. The only reason I didn't was because I was afraid a .22 wouldn't work in one shot and he'd be able to take the gun away. He used to tell me he'd kill me if he saw me touch it, and I believed him. My mom and that made have left me fighting PTSD all my life, and only a few years ago I found that he had been sexually abusing my little sister. Now I have to live with the guilt and shame of thinking if I had shot him, if my little sister hadn't had to go through what she went through. We're almost estranged but it has been sometimes comforting to talk about the abuse we went through, as neither of us talked about it when we were little. We were both scared, and the age gap was just big enough that I was gone every minute I could be, living at my friends' houses as often as I could to get away from these people, while she was trapped with them. I feel so, so bad for this little boy. There but for the grace of god go I
In rural areas, it's not uncommon. Most kids learn safety and respect for firearms by 5 years old. I had many friends who had their own rifles and shotguns at a young age, but the firearms were not to be touched. This boy was at his wits end and was at a breaking point.
@@KimAhrina11 stay in yours then where you can play victim when your door is kicked in you are beat to death while waiting for police to get there to load up your body and start the investigation and when its not a gun its a knife the kids use to kill their parents
I was wrong to quickly criticize Joey on how a ten year old boy has access to a deadly weapon. Then I heard the whole story. I hope the young man finds peace and his mental burdens eased.
As a mother to a child not much younger then Joey was when the shooting happened, it just breaks my heart seeing him and hearing him. As adults, in the best of situations, we can still struggle with regulating or even understanding our emotions... so a 10 year old who had recently experienced one hard & disappointing thing after another topped off with emotional and sometimes physical abuse he just couldn't take it anymore. He deserved better.
Am I missing something? I just watched the whole video and I'm not missing context. Why are you defending the murderer? Many people have difficult childhoods and don't murder their parents. What is wrong with you?
This is what happens when a parent treats her child like a piece of trash. This was the years of emotional and physical abuse just boiling and boiling. He’s a 10 year old kid and he probably felt like he had it 20,000 pounds on his shoulders, it was because of his own mother. I truly hope this kid gets a lot of help, he really needs it.
It's America you are contribution will be remembered Asshole just because he was asked to collect wood and can't control his rage shot his mom That's evil He is a killer
I was in this type of family dynamic, my oldest sibling always was the "golden child" and got anything she wanted. I was the "scapegoat youngest" always blamed for my parents issues. "stress and their mental illness" I fought with them a lot, but 5 years ago I disowned every one of them. Said fuck it and I'm happier now. Big difference between family, and relatives.
I was also emotionally, physically and sexually abused as a child. My older brother was the golden child, I wasn't. It was hell, I couldn't wait to escape. I feel for this child, it's too bad he felt he had no one to turn to as many of us are too scared to speak up. I didn't until I was in my 30's. Such horrible parenting, so many lives destroyed
@@cadespencer6320 no,I didn't talk about it until I was in my thirties. I didn't actually escape the emotional issues until much later because I also went through two abusive marriages. Now I'm single and living off grid in my Airstream with my dogs out in the middle of nowhere. I'm finally free of my past ,doing great and loving it. I have found I can do anything I set my mind to with no judgement from anyone. It's very freeing and my health is better than it's ever been.
I feel for this young boy. I was abused physically and mentally from 5 years old up until I was 13. By a man my mother met and both of them took it in turns daily. Thankfully I was taken into foster care, it took me years to trust anyone and I turned to drug addiction all through my teenage years. I've still got scars on my body and wake up some night's sweating from nightmares. I'm 40 now and beaten the drug's and alcohol, have a beautiful home with my wife. Turned to making music instead of drugs when shit gets difficult it's great to shut off from the world and make music. I do have mental health problems, ptsd & depression but I'm definitely in a happier place. It breaks my heart when I see or hear about child abuse because I know exactly how it feels.
man I thought I was reading my own life story there wild dude. I was heavily drugged as a child by my parents because I didnt "sit still" in school. My dad was very physically abusive. I spent most my teens and 20s partying and doing stuff I shouldnt be because they fucked my brain up. It took me many many years to get straight. I too found music and now DJ and own a production company with a happy wife, life and 2 beautiful thriving children
Good for you brother..... so glad you got out of that situation still more or less in one piece. My abuse was never within my family....home was my safe place, and that made it easier to deal with..... can't imagine what you went through. Best wishes from New Zealand.... 🙂
I feel bad for this kid and I feel like his sister was no good. Even though she describes him as evil at that moment, you can see how hurt and disturbed that little child was. I hope kids like Joey can get some help where they dont have to deal with people so called family.
This just makes me want to appreciate the love, warmth, care, guidance I get from my parents even now. It is sad how life takes an ugly turn for others and it’s especially heartbreaking to see a child suffer in the hands of their parents who just so happens to want to abuse their children. This is so so so sad😢
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A lot of you people have never been to the South, huh? In Texas, Florida, New Mexico, etc, there's at least 10 guns for every person. It's common place, and not surpising in the least.
@@shockmazta3116 I live in the south. Just because firearms are everywhere doesn’t negate the fact a 10 year old got to so easily. The point is, it’s a 10 year old so all the weapons in the house should be locked or hidden.
I've been through a rough childhood myself, but not in this scale, yet this makes me feel messed up. Sadly, a LOT of kids nowadays are like this because of bad parenting and social media.
My mother was incredibly abusive growing up. There had been two times when I almost ended her life. Once when I put a pillow over her face while she was drugged out on the couch sleeping. The second when her friends dumped her at my grandmother's while she was overdosing, my grandmother woke me up so I could come see her while she was purple, foaming from the mouth, and convulsing. She then asked me -- a child -- whether or not we should even call an ambulance, whether I thought it would be worth saving her. It hurts my entire being to know children can feel so desperate for their terrible situations to stop that they kill their parent(s).
You just confessed to attempted murder 🤡 Unless your mom regularly tried to kill or grape you, you have no reason to even think of ending her life. I wish you have children that attempt to end your life.
Your grandma was sick of her too, she probably thought what would you want. I wish I could decided that with my father, he beat the crap out of me everyday and I really hoped I had the chance.
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having an older “golden child” and abusing a younger “scapegoat” siblings is actually a key characteristic of many households of a narcissistic abusive parent.
Ur right!
It was the opposite in my house. My younger brother can do no wrong...and I can do nothing right.
@@kaydabear9487 i’m sorry friend. it’s painful.
Yes. In my family My brother was the first born and treasured by my mother. My sister was the baby and treasured for that. I was the middle child and was worthless. I was the first daughter and my dad doted on me for a while, which ironically made my mother hate me. She had some strange jealousy thing going on that she seemed to think i was trying to steal my dad from her. She made the first 18 years of my life a living hell. I have learned that it's a thing sometimes for women to be jealous of their first daughters.
Day after my 18th bday I moved 100 miles away to break free but still kind of felt under the thumb somehow. I have cPTSD and a long list of mental health issues to juggle thanks to the torture she put me through. Gas lighting is brutal.
I only managed to finally feel free when she died last year and i felt guilt for a while for feeling free instead of grief.
As soon as the little boy was so calm about what he'd done, my first thought was wondering what his situation at home had been. It's so sad on all sides.
So so true my mom did and still does the same thing smh 🤦🏾♀️ sad situation
Perfect example of parental failure. Also as a side note, it's not unusual for an abusive parent to select just one of their children to be the subject of their awful parenting. Nor is it unusual for the unabused siblings to not be able to recognize what's happening around them. Toxic.
Absolutely. We'll said
I didn't know/realize a lot that went on with my mom and sisters...I was the baby of the three.
@@heidiiiiiiii That happens a lot with the younger sibs.
I was thinking this myself. It seems logical that the mother and sister both abused him. Mothers like that tend to enable their daughters to be the same way, then the daughter just parrots moms talking points to the police.
@@derekbrandell8520 ...and the cycle continues 😞
Abusing a child who has multiple rifles in his room seems like a really bad idea.
Convoluted suicide
It's also fucking wild that a 10 year old has one gun, never mind multiple rifles
Why no one is talking about the fact that a 10 year old is allowed to have a rifle in his room ! Not even the officer asked him to whom it belong
He had 3! Scary!
not even just that, the kid said the dad had shot his mom before. insane
Hunting rifles can be owned by 8 year olds
The fact that the families response to her death is as if the dog died tells alot about the situation hope everyones doing well now.
No! If it was a dog, they would have been out raged!
I found that part funny to, a dog dieing is SAS but I know what you're saying. The grandma is acting like no big deal, you'd think it's the father's mom then.
More like the gold fish
@@gezenews Daughter didn't even sound distressed, sounded like she was making something up.
My family reacts much more to a dog death than this
The calmness of everyone in the room when the cops first walk in tells so much. As if everyone knew the cause of chaos, the mother and the fights between her and joey was finally over.
It looked like how people would act after they had to put a dog down
They seemed relieved 💀
Also the fact that no one is crying is very telling
He was asked to get firewood, and do his laundry. And what, she deserved to be shot in the head because of a literal slap fight 6 years ago? Haha, thats more telling of his character, and people in this comment section.
leftist mindset. being mad at someone doesn't justify murder. he wasn't "abused", he was given houseold chores he didn't want to do. very ironic that leftists hate parenting but want the state to be their ultimate parents. you think they'll task you with logwood retrieval? no, they'll send you to the gulags at gun point
My mom has bipolar and my god it was insane growing up with her. There were so many mood swings. She was an absolute sweet nurturing mother one day and insanely angry for no reason the next.
Am I a horrible person for not feeling sorry for the mother? His life can´t be worse now than it would have been with her for the rest of his childhood. I know exactly how he felt and the anger that built up over the years.
Not at all, abusive parents don’t deserve any sympathy at all. poor boy
Mommy KEPT the GUNS there.
There is a good chance mom wasn't medicated for her bipolar as they have a very backwards healthcare system in the states.
To be perfectly honest, judging by everything regarding the case, and especially the reactions of the other adults, it sounds like the mother got what was coming to her. It's just a damn shame the poor kid wasn't able to be removed from that toxic environment before he resorted to the last resort.
No. I think a lot of us that comment on these types of true crime videos have seen a gambit of similar situations. Not that we're "forensic therapists" but I think we have a sense about the people we see. So I 100% agree with you and do not think you are wrong for feeling that way. I feel so bad for Joey, sweet and honest kid. I think his punishment is actually a bit on the harsh side.
He saw his parents fighting; his mom verbally and physically abused him. His dad let him have his guns in his room 🤦🏽♀️ Just all around horrible parenting. HORRIBLE. I hope Joey has gotten extensive therapy for his issues.
I don't think he was abused I grew up with my cousin that had the exact same anger issues growing up all started at a young age. This boy never once talked about physical abuse.
I felt bad until i heard he tried to kill his sister Shawna and she cried and begged him not too. She's traumatized.
She wants him locked up forever. She fears he's gonna kill her. Poor girl. 😥
@@horrorfan5157 your an idiot it mentions they were abused and most likely his mother got his sister to side with her contributing to the problem
Yes a 10 year old with guns in his room just AWFUL parenting
@@deant6361 "common sense" is a myth lol. So woman mentally tortures her son and probably husband too (not that he's innocent) and allows him to have guns in the room 😂 darwinism at it's finest
does anyone else notice how no one in the family is crying? She must of been a real peach of a person.. even her own mother is not crying.
They're all in shock but, yeah, they are a strange family.
Very unnerving. You just lost your mother/daughter/ wife due to the actions of her ten year old child. This must have been a very toxic household for no one to shed a tear about it.
Mother-in-law
That must be her mom-in-law, seeing as she has the same surname as them
That’s not fair to the victim. Unless it was self defense there is no excuse. Sounds like a spoiled rotten kid who didn’t want to do chores.
I feel for this kid, man. I grew up in a similar situations where the arguments started from nothing and the abuse was serious even though I could never really explain why. No one could understand why he'd shoot her for calling him lazy, but as soon as I heard that she had BD I knew. It's really hard to explain to people who haven't experienced it, and I don't mean in the way where people can't empathize. It's really just hard to communicate why the abuse messes with your mind so much, especially at a young age.
Same, BP says a lot, if you have the misfortune of a parent who is afflicted then you know.
Absolutely
I've been estranged from my mom for 12 years. I was the scapegoat with verbal and mental abuse. When I got in the medical field is when life made sense. I can see patterns from maternal grandmother to my mom, and a handicap sister (diagnosed with BP and borderline personality and behavior disorder; all 3 are hereditary per a doctor I worked with). It is insane growing up in this chit!! I feel for this kid and hope he and his sister have overcome obstacles & doing well.
Especially when all you want is to be loved.
They just attack you from any angle that works, in a way that can be later framed where they were "innocently" saying this or that. Trying to generate a reaction, to poison the people around you against you.
As a child of an emotionally, mentally, and verbally abusive father, my heart goes out to Joey. I feel so sorry for him. It shouldn’t have had to come to this. It wasn’t his fault that his mother was a TERRIBLE person and mother.
When you push someone too far, the results will be devastating.
Exactly. I haven't been driven to murder anyone and I don't think I will, but have been driven into severe panic attacks just from being screamed at and have been driven to cope in awful ways. Abusive parents really ruin their kids and Joey is unfortunately a kid who just has had enough. I hope he's doing okay wherever he is.
It was his fault for shooting her though.
@@Stefanbites85 Yes. But, she had driven him to do it because she kept abusing him.
So you are a killer also? How can you say killing your own mother is ok? Law forces should check youtube comments. Because a lot of killers like you commenting here.
Nope. He's a selfish lil' sh**. He WOULD have my sympathy if he hadn't shot his unarmed mother like a coward. I honestly could barely watch...NOT because of the subject matter...but because of how NICELY the cops were treating the little spawn.
All I can think is the classic quote “Every kid deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a kid.” Such a sad story
I reckon if I see this quote repeated one more time I will hunt the poster down and ..... gosh some originality please .... can't anyone think for themselves anymore?
@@veganandlovingit It is a valid quote and certainly seems to fit the situation... why does it bother you so much, hit a nerve?
@@kl0wnkiller912 bro is tight quotes exist 💀
my grandfather used to say "a mother is good for 1000 kids but 1000 kids are no good for one mother" there's a quote for you.
@@veganandlovingit right? That's all RUclips has become.
What was eerie to me was the whole calmness of everyone when the officer walked in after the shooting. No tears or any emotions from anyone.
She must have been an awful person herself.
They were in shock.
They were still in shock.
Same
It definitely struck me as weird
The amount of apathy among "adults" surrounding this kid is astounding.
He murdered someone you dork. They're interrogating him
Mental illness is often genetic, good chance the whole family have some personality disorder going on
two lessons here:
1. don't give your 10 y/o a gun, especially not a rifle.
2. if you do give them a gun, don't disrespect them and what they do for you on a daily basis.
“Especially not a rifle” lol
10 year old with a gun in his room. My Father trained me how to use guns and proper safety. But, ALL guns in the house were secured in a Lock Box and my Father was the only one with the Key. This is Parental IRRESPONSIBILTY.
I found that shocking too. Especially since he displayed violence in the past against authority figures.
No parental responsibility is having nothing to do with guns. The only time my kids have ever seen a gun is in a movie and I can guarantee that neither of them are ever going to get shot. Can you? I don't care how 'responsible' you think you are, the fact that guns are even part of your life says it all
We had guns in the house when I was growing up, and they were always loaded. We all knew they were loaded and never to mess with them in the house. My friends came over and we never fooled with firearms, because they had been taught right, too. But we were normal; this kid was not. If I was his dad he would not have access to a gun, but I can see him knifing someone instead. Or even just beating someone to death when he got a little bigger. Glad I never had a kid or grandkid like that. I am 77 years old and still have guns. If someone breaks in I sure can't win a fistfight.
More like parental abuse. a caretaker should set the standard for responsibility and lead by example. her fatass couldnt fetch some wood. who knows what other things she forced her kids to do. theyre lives not grunts to fill your overwhelmingly lazy habits. it was all bad parenting and i hope the kids were put in a better situation.
Your parents failed as well
You can tell the responding officer never been through and has never thought he would respond to a kid killing his mom dude was just as shocked as the kid
Except the kid wasn’t in shock he was proudly boasting that he killed her. Learn to listen to events playing out over the narrative
@@healingandgrowth-infp4677 yep this kid is a psycho
We're a small community everyone knows everyone and this is something that never happens here but it did.
He didn't sound :"shocked" at all!! He was not taking it serious.
@@tracisasha1862 You think this happens everyone's neighborhood?
This happened early 2011, so the kid was probably born in 2000 or the first 48-hours of 2011. He's in his early 20's now.
Very few LEOs had body cameras in 2011. They didn't reslly take off in the U.S. until 2014. So I'm surprised this rural town in Ohio managed to have them 3 years ahead!
40 million Americans suffer from anxiety and depression. I myself, and that doesn't prone you to killing someone.
True that. But what if one pushes you to that point. What do you do, walking away don't help, nor ignoring it cuz it never goes away!
I grew up with a kid that was the sole target of his mother's abuse, he had a big heart with his friends but a bigger temper with anyone that made him feel like he was threatened in any sort.
He's doing life in prison for killing a man over an argument about a truck.
I hate trying to imagine where he would be now if he hadn't been so neglected and abused.
I was abused until late teens and I didn't take it out on anyone else. Your friend is a weak POS and belongs in the fudge house for murder.
Was it an accident? I’ve heard too many stories of someone throwing a punch then accidentally killing someone. I’d assume his anger and words though is what really got him life if that’s the case.
@@crazybobert5243 he made the story up
@@bryankochar7615 you never know tbh
@@bryankochar7615 this shit happens bro quit being so sceptical
I was abused by my single mother growing up. It feels like you will never escape. 11 years of not talking to her and I’m here to say one day you will escape it. Stay strong to anyone out there suffering.
mothers are always automatically held up and praised. I had an evil mother too, but thankfully she’s dead now. I’m glad you escaped.
i was to, But still love my mom and have no clue what i wuil do with out her, But no doubt she was very abuseive..
I also didnt see a way out of my mother's abuse. Somehow I managed to endure it until I was old enough to get a job and leave but I cant even estimate how many hours I spent crying and being desperate and miserable. Physical violence is unnaceptable but there are things that hurt even more because she never laid a hand on me but trust me, I still have nightmares about the things she used to tell me.
Parents are allowed to tell their kids off and go on at them. Because your mum asked you to do a job is no reason to shoot her. Some kids are just horrible and say they were abused when in reality the kids just doesn't want to listen to the parent.
What are some signs to look for as a parent? I'm a single dad and my boy always wants to spend time with me instead. My ex seems like a good mom tho but just curious what exactly I should look out for
Man, I feel bad for that kid. This is the only case that genuinely made me cry. No kid should be submitted to this kind of abuse. Look at that house, they way he was treated, learning difficulties… Of course he wanted to be at his friend’s house all the time, no wonder, anyone under those circumstances would wish nothing else but to escape.
yep. I did the same. one summer break I stayed almost every single night at my friend's house because being home was too hard, too scary and stressful. I wish nobody had to think like that as a child, how to escape a parent who is abusive
The abuse Joey suffered is clear. There are so many layers to this.
I can sympathize with Joey and his abusive mother. You have a woman who was clearly mentally unstable. In my opinion, it seems like there's more on the surface when they all mention how she was unusually crueler to Joey. I wonder if she sustained some type of trauma that was causing her to lash out more at her son. It seemed as though the relationship with her daughter was somewhat normal... 10 years in a cage being poked at seems awful to imagine.
That kid sounds like a victim of narcissistic abuse and finally hit his emotional breaking point. To young to leave, to naive to know better and went with the one option he had left.
I lived with a narcissist for 12 years. 19-33.
I was an adult with the power to walk away. My sympathy goes to the kid.
@@starfoxe3231 there was a two year separation
A lot of us were subjected to the same or worse. I wish there was a definite trigger that makes him different than me. Because I never once considered murder even for a second.
@@starfoxe3231 I thought I was marrying a nymphomaniac but after the wedding the nympho left and the maniac stayed.
She thought she took my breath away. But in reality I was being suffocated by her bullsht
@@prostyle1626 my mom was loving when i was a kid. now she is a monster. from the sounds of it, it seems like you're in a better place in life, so i can't wait to be just like you. also you might consider being a lyricist cause "the nympho left and the maniac stayed" is a really good play on words.
No child kills a parent. Period. I was in that situation. Where is everyone getting the abusive bad parent from. She told hi. To do his chores n he was disrespectful n did not obey. N thot it easier to kill her.
As a grown man who experienced physical and psychological childhood abuse, I feel for that kid. I know exactly what was going through his mind, it's a scary and hopeless place to be.
Exactly, even as 31 years old i still felt the hopelessness from the abuse i had as a kid. Sometimes i feel so angry just from remebering everything and everyone from my childhood and just wanted to kill everyone. Little twisted i know, but seeing this kind of video help a little by knowing that i am not alone
@@sij809 gun would have been in an adult's name
@@sij809 Do you really think the kid owned that gun or are you just messing around? Cause I know you're just messing around. If not you're a sped.
But you have to consider the fact that if there was no easy access to guns in the house this probably never would’ve happened. How stupid were the parents to leave loaded guns in the kids bedroom that’s bizarro world !!
@@steve-uq5tl that is usually what it is in these cases.. people want stricter gun laws. The laws that are already on the books would stop almost all of these cases if they were followed. You are supposed to keep guns away from children.
My brother would've done that to our mom too. She always made him feel terrible, the physically and the mental abuse was outstanding. Now 40 years later he has forgiven her. I literally stopped him for 40 years to not harm his own mother.
A little kid. With firearms in his bedroom. I just can’t.
Why did a 10 year old have a loaded gun just in his room? How were all the relatives so chill as this kid is admitting to killing his mother? Why did no one get him a lawyer first? I feel like he was definitely verbally/emotionally abused by the mom but man this is a tough case.
Where there's vested interest, gun control would never happen 😏
thats what i thought and not just one
He needed the gun to protect himself from a bad guy with a gun. DUH.
That's America.
Well if it's in a rural area, I'm guessing it was for hunting
@@IceNineThrillsyeah. All ten year olds keep a 22 by their bed in case a deer hops out of their closet. 😂
I can not thank you enough for the captioning done across all channels. As a hard of hearing viewer, your content is some of the only videos like this I can watch because of the captions. Almost no other channels caption this type of content.
EDIT: A lot of responses are coming from well meaning people saying most youtube videos have CC. While this is technically correct, that would be auto generated CCs, as someone that does turn them on and use them on every video they're available(unless the creator has supplied their own CC) they are spotty at best. If you would like to experience what I mean, turn on auto generated captions for this video and experience how in the first 20 seconds autoCC does not recognize speech is occurring during the 911 call. So if EWU had not included the words on screen, I would not know a single thing that was said during that part and I assume it would be like that throughout the rest of the video. AutoCC is great if there is minimal noise outside of the person speaking, however in many cases autoCC is simply awful.
I'm hard of hearing, too.
Indeed, thank you for the captions.
@@dianecomly6132 Same here, and I appreciate those who do add the CC.
Totally agree! I’m not hard of hearing but take longer to process what’s being said and the captions mean I am actually able to understand what’s going on. Love to see it 👏
personally for me i like captations in general i guess im weird, they also help when i wake up and i wanna put stuff in my youtube history to watch later, i can click on the video without my speakers on and get afew minutes on if i wanna watch it later or not. i cant really think of a game where i dont have captations on.
I fully agree!
Wait, He went to HIS room to get his rifle???. He's 10. That's the bad parenting, not her yelling.
Joey is about 23 years old now, he could be out in his 30's if hes mentaly ok. Not much people deserve a seccond change after a crime like this. But then, nobody deserves to be emotionaly or physically abused as a child.
The thing is, while being interrogated, he said "she just went "plop'. Thats the desturbing part. He wont be able to erase that from his memories, his mother could haunt him forever if he doesnt get usefull treatment while in jail, as much as they did before.
I think the obvious question is, what is a 10 year old kid doing with a loaded gun in his room? Was there any positive guidance? He seems so lost. My heart goes out to him.
I really think they left that with him on purpose.
I'm fairly certain the mother was hoping he'd use it on himself and it backfired. It's exceedingly common for women who experience spousal abuse to turn against their own sons, especially if said son was a result of one of those relationships. The kid then becomes a danger to women, creates life with someone he's covered in bruises, and that ends up starting the cycle of hate all over again.
In areas like this it's not uncommon for parents to get their children a .22 at around this age. I had one, my mother's neighbor got their kid a .22 for christmas when he was around 12. Step father's siblings all had rifles in their early teens. Super common. And super stupid. Taking your kids out target shooting and teaching them safety and marksmanship and all that: Good. Letting them have a rifle they can grab and load at any time: Bad
If the evidence pic is correct, it was at least 3 guns in his room, along with plenty of ammo. 10 year old kid who has had severe problems since at least the age of 6, shouldn't have had even a bb gun in his room. This one is on the poor parenting list, from the joint butt in the ashtray to the filthy living conditions, this was almost inevitable.
I survived...the rifle wasn't the problem OBVIOUSLY.
That's just sad. Poor kid just needed the right environment & someone who would have treated him with love, kindness & respect.
Maybe he can go live with you once he’s paroled.
@@rubyoro0 😂😂😂😂
@@rubyoro0 I clicked on the comments to say the same thing 😂😂
@@rubyoro0 he'd probably kill them
@@nicholashutchinson5663 the joke
Your head
I love your channel! Your voice is buttery smooth, and you do your homework. Thanks for providing such interesting content!
Just seeing his room says a lot
Case of abuse brought to its most horrific conclusion.
All of the family bar his sister (not unusual for abusive parents to favorite one child over another) seemed eerily calm. They ALL knew why it happened. Even his dad. If there is any fault here, it lies with them for not reporting it and acting sooner. Hope Joey one day recovers and though he is kept in confinement for his own psychiatric wellbeing, at least he does not face serious charges.
Free healthcare isn’t possible. You expect nurses and doctors to work for free? Sounds like slavery but there are programs this kid will be put in that will be paid through programs and tax payer funded. There’s no reason for him to be there for life. He needs help and if not a danger, has to go to school so he can live a normal life. He snapped after abuse.
@@gezenews kept confined for the rest of his life bc as a kid he was pushed beyond his limits for years? what?
First and foremost the fault is with the mother for the abuse in the first place. Secondly with the father for not protecting his son. Thirdly with the family.
@@Tarzanjunglekungfu the mother was mentally ill; the father was mentally blase thinking a 10 yr old shd b able to have guns in his house/bdrm, incredibly NAIVE!!
@@Lauren-vd4qe do we know the father got him the guns?
Damn he even asked for a lawyer straight up. The questioning should have ended.
He even knew he fucked up 😢
Yep, the CHILD asked for an attorney which says a lot. Not ONE adult even protected him in that regard and there were several of them present; this kid has had to fend for himself and was failed by the adults in his life. That much is obvious.
@@amiblack8294 grandma was literally right there when he asked for one. She even told him what you would call "the man that would help him". Poor kids. He reached his breaking point. I get that this was a small town in rural Ohio, but the sheriff and the deputies should have stopped questioning him right then.
They should but they wont. They will basically force confessions out of kids and use that in juvenile court since the juvenile court doesnt care about rights or case laws and arent under any sort of strict guidance about children like regular courts have a guidance and multiple agencies regulating them to reduce and drop charges for African Americans. This kid was obviously abused and fsiled by the system and all the adults in his life.
Yes should not have been spoken to without council
The officer's "Okaaaay" after "I shot my mum" is just gorgeous.
He says Okaaaaay about 50x. 😆
I grew up with an extremely abusive mother that is disturbingly similar to the victim in this case and this really showed me how lucky I am to have escaped her before it got this bad.
Count your blessings, folks. Even your trauma could be worse and you could be worse off.
Boo hoo that's no excuse to kill nobody
@@kathydavis2764
Nowhere did I say that. You sound like an abusive mother yourself.
@@kathydavis2764
All I can say is.. Ur lucky u got the easy life
I feel for this kid. I suffered the same kind of abuse. It NEVER stopped, not even in my sleep. She would come in and tip over my dresser because the socks weren’t organized by color. I had no one to help. I can still feel the anger, the hopelessness. I don’t know how I didn’t kill her, I thought about constantly. If karma is real, she will burn to death. These predators are everywhere.
Shit people will have all the excuses to murder and rape.
That's the thing that's hard, you can't explain those things to people without them minimizing it and saying "Oh so you're just mad that your parent told you to do chores boo-hoo." They're incapable of perceiving the severity of emotional abuse.
The reality is parents like this would smack you upside the head and smash your most cherished possessions because you didn't make your bed in the morning. A kid tries to talk to a professional about their parent screaming at them for the tiniest of mistakes and it's blown off as a parent being strict and a child being disobedient. That's the issue. You CAN'T be obedient, no matter how hard you try, it's NEVER good enough. It's a persistence and escalation issue that they always fail to understand.
People describe this kid as a sweetheart everywhere else because that's the thing, his obedience is way more than enough for most people, and it's a coping mechanism that was beat into him to try to appease his mother as much as possible. I know this because I was the same way, mother painted a picture of me that I was a raging out of control kid that wanted to hurt her, but every other adult in my life that I met just didn't see it.
@@Sammysapphira Unfortunately spot on. I’m sorry you went through the shit too. I even had a child psychiatrist when I was 10 tell me that I was a misogynist. A 10yo. He must have gotten the impression from me that I didn’t like women. He was right. I was 28 before I could even speak to one without being terrified.
OMG...my mother would dump all my drawers and rip everything out of the closet and I would stay up all night fixing it and then had to go to school the next morning. I thought I was the only one.
I feel the exact same way
I came unexplainably close to killing my own mom, I would cut my own self just to avoid doing so.
I'm sorry to all the children out there that suffered from narcissistic parents that blamed you for every mistake they made, every little thing in life that upset them... it wasn't your fault.
doesnt justify murder lmao wtf
@@AC-mp7cx Never said it did...🤣Try reading my comment again.
Thanks, we needed that
@@randomrecipes5007 try telling me that again after youve lived my life, its been years since that part of my life, but if i ever saw my step mother again, i just might kill her and i wouldnt be a bit sorry about it
@@jonathonsaavedra843 Don't throw your life away, but tell her how it is. Sorry you grew up like that man.
I was also abused by my mother and bullied at school every day. I came really close to what this kid did multiple times, but I stopped myself. Nobody really understands what constant pain, helplessness, and suffering can do to a little kid. You keep your head down but at some point it all just starts erupting and you go into a fit of rage. If you constantly poke a kitten it will lash out at you at some point - it's a natural reaction. I'm 28 now and I'm seriously messed up from the abuse I had to endure. I never felt love and I am completely dead inside. I'm also a complete loner. I did not choose to be like this and neither did this poor kid. Society doesn't care about us.
Same. I nearly reached a snapping point where I'd either be in prison, or you know what happens when somebody doesn't want life behind bars. I realized myself that I shouldn't looking to be harming others, especially those who hadn't even seen me before. Thankfully I'm better.
I know but f society u need to start caring for your self. If everyone else failed u don't fail your self. Find your self in something. And conspiring english is not my native and I absolutely hate to use it f it u see somebody cares even if is some strange from Bosnia. Day by day step by step and at least on end u can say u tried your best. Praying that better days are coming for both of us my unknown friend 🙏
Same i also almost snapped because of abuse at home, getting beaten every single day and bullying i wanted to stabb my classmates because i couldn't handle it anymore...
Today i fell no emotions have no friends completely isolated from everything i live in a apartment full of trash and i probably will die soon because i have nothing to live for
I am just a mess.......
@@x-tr-ip-py-x755 I feel you brother. Riding motorcycles helps me a lot, so you can try that. I only live for the idea of traveling Europe with a motorcycle one day. Until then, I refuse to give up.
Same here. I tried running away. I tried offing myself. Then when I went into my teens, it was just depression and apathy the whole time. I guess I've just accepted how it is, approaching mid-life. The verbal and mental abuse left me with trust-issues and low self-esteem, which goes some way to explain why I don't have friends or a wife. Always trying to get over it, but those early years really run deep.
Striker and Ranker. Perfect partnership for an 80’s cop series
I only scrolled down so I could find this comment.
I was just pulled over by an Officer Gruel
Theres an Officer Virgil Bibby in Daleville Indiana. Dont mess around. Bibby dont play😁
@@abefroman9848 gruel was the shit he pulled off a fake reg sticker . It was on a car we bought from a stranger . This officer who is that fucking kind. In my personal life so many times I’ve been pulled over and they have been extra kind that nobody deserves that much kindness
This child clearly had a breakdown from his mother constantly belittling him.
This is just tragic all around. You can tell this kid is not some dead-eyed, black souled psychopathic killer or something, he's not one of those child killers who puts a chill down your spine to even see them. He sure didn't seem directly hostile, violent, or even angry to others, and no one in his house was scared or even slightly worried around him, or acted like he would even be dangerous to them.
He's obviously a abused kid with severe issues from his upbringing, as well as anger issues, but I genuinely don't believe this kid is irredeemable or something. He's broken, and I can't imagine the insane years of therapy he needs and is hopefully getting--but he doesn't have to let this define him.
The ultimate way to get back at your abuser is to live a good, happy life. To leave them in the dust of the past where they belong. I pray this child finds his way, as he is clearly lost but not at all gone
My father is a narcissist. Since I was a child he verbally abused me. Told me my whole life I ruined everything. That anger, resentment, and self-hatred boils until it spills over. Next thing you know, there’s an object in your hand, and you want to hurt them as much as they hurt you. It’s truly haunting feeling that amount of rage. I feel for this boy.
I hope you’re doing ok 💛
@@kimdoogleouo4521 Thank you love! I appreciate it.
I feel that. I used to worry that I'd kind of black out & come to covered in blood holding something heavy. When there's so much anger & nothing is done to stop it or heal it then you really don't have control of yourself with all that anger boiling up inside
I’ve been there for sure. Finally hit my breaking point with my father one day and I’m thankful I didn’t do what I really wanted to do.
@@caracalcontinuum3118 I’m so sorry! It often feels like your alone and no one understands how draining it is to deal with someone like that. I hope you’re doing the best you can love. Stay strong.
I’m horrified how normal abuse at home is, so much people are talking about their own experiences. This needs to stop.. my heart goes out to all abused or mistreated people
Usually the people who abuse their kids psychologically don´t realize how much it hurts their children.
Often times it´s about stuff that adults won´t bother at all just because they are independent and can just walk away and go on with their lives.
Children often don´t have many options but to accept stuff because they have to stay with their parents.
@@leoisso7033 could be. But I think it depends on the degree of abuse or mistreatment. A lot of parents don’t see their child’s as a whole human being and don’t care about feelings or other perspectives. That’s a huge issue and setup for mental health issues etc, in my opinion..
Where is abuse in this video? Help me to understand.
@@NullifidianYT I was talking about all the comments where people have experienced abuse
It has to do mainly with there not being decent, trustworthy statistics on the number of anti socials, narcissists, psychopaths, border line, paranoid, schizophrenics there are in our societies. Those are mostly the abusers.
They are not always aware of them being abusive, from their perspective (which is a warped one)
the victims had it coming, it's their fault. They can't self reflect unless it's in a self serving way.
There are FAR more people suffering such disorders than what stats are saying. Thank you ! I was also a victim, multiple times and lost my older sister to domestic violence. Really appreciate your kind words.
WHO tf let 10 year old kid have a real gun in his room lol. Murrica really is a state of mind.
Somebody please hug that kid and show him that there are good people in this world. Please get him away from any of his toxic family. The way the husband and his grandma react with zero emotion throughout the whole ordeal is absolutely frightening. Please find him a place to get a mental positive rebirth and then find a new home for him.
My father was the meanest human being I’ve ever known in my entire life. I’m almost 60 years old now and I still deal with the horrible things he did to me, my Mom, and all 4 of my siblings. I’m the only one of their 5 kids who survived them. All my siblings are addicts, didn’t raise their kids, and they’ve all been both incarcerated and institutionalized.
I reached my breaking point at 17… had my Dad on his knees with my Mom begging me not to do it as she stood there with her face bloody from just being beaten. She was just as much to blame for not leaving him but I was a kid and couldn’t understand their abuse was 50/50. I thought it was us kids and my Mom against my father. Nope. It was us against the both of them which I leaned through extensive therapy which I sought when I left home at 19.
I’ve been exactly where this kid went…but I just didn’t have the nerve. I’m glad I didn’t now…but he was scared of me after that so I’m not sorry for “almost.”
I've also been in this position, I threatened my father with a knife, thinking it was us against him. They split and I was left with my mother till I was 23 and I finally escaped. 10 years no contact and I have better understanding of what went on. My father was abusive but he was also goaded by her and she was more vicious. I've been so close towards both of them, all of the abuse was just too much to stand. I hope Joey gets out someday, I don't like that they are keeping him indefinitely. People don't understand what it is like to be "raised" by abusive people who scream and attack each other. That is your filter on the world, that is how you are taught to behave and then they wonder why it happens, a 10 year old does not know how to deal with the levels of stress he was under. Christ the instant I saw the mother, I can see the nastiness in her. Narcissistic abusers like that all have the same look.
same by my step dad. i never went to therapy but i did ask the question later in life.... why did she stay?? she wasn't violent never hit him, i know she was very scared of him we all were. I remember us laughing and having a good time, and as soon as he interred the room you could hear a pin drop we all immediately got quiet. he was more physical with her, but we got to see it. 52 now and to be honest i have no childhood memories past age 14 or so literally anything younger than that i have no memories. I may see or hear some random thing that flashes a brief vague memory, but that's it. I never did drugs or drank thank god. been married 23 years never raised a hand. But i can get mad at people, i will not let people run over or take advantage of me. my wife has asked why don't you go to a therapist to try and unlock what you have blocked out. My response is always, if it was bad enough that your mind blocked it out....would you really want to remember???? Hats off to you my friend hope life after you dad was a great one.
Abuse is NEVER 50/50!! That is an incredibly mean attempt for victim blaming.
Yes, an abused spouse should leave but there are often real problems to overcome and not everybody finds a solution.
If you learned that falsehood in therapy I’d say therapy gone wrong.
@@Celisar1 if you’re watching your kids get beaten and making your kids get up night after night to defend your life with their bodies by standing in the way and taking the beating to give you a break and you don’t leave, then you’re being a rotten mother. And if you leave and get your kids out of it and they start to have hope for their lives and then you take them back to the same abusive situation to start living it all over again, you’re a rotten mother. And when your kids leave home and move you in with them rent free and get you out of the abuse and then you choose to go back, you’re being a rotten mother. Don’t speak on what you know absolutely nothing about. She wanted the chaos and she loved him more than she loved her kids…and not one but THREE therapist have told me those exact same words. If you’re defending a mother getting out and taking her kids back to it after letting them see what life was like without living with a monster, then you must be the same kind of mother.
@@kelliesharpe1067 Hahaha exactly right. She is definitely that shitty parent trying to justify being with a waste of air POS. i feel sorry for her kids.
How did they even interrogate a 10 year old without his father present? What I see is a child with a learning disability who was being terrorized every day of his life by his parents and saw no other way out. Even Grandma, who he obviously adored, watched her treat him poorly and did nothing to help him. This is just sad. Everyone loses. 😞
Grandma was there, she was a legal guardian that didn't refuse the line of questioning for the little boy.. like I understand your point but legally grandma would've had to say something
For real, his mom was medicated for several mental health issues and he was left to live with her until it all went to hell. This kid was screwed even if he didn't shoot his mom.
@@budgetbuilt8838 ohh okay that makes sense then, I didn’t know she had custody. If Grandma was his legal guardian there was likely a reason for it, and that reason could have been child abuse or neglect. Courts don’t just take away your full custody and give it to your Mother like Leilani Simon. They order split custody and move on to the next case they don’t want to deal with. You also don’t have to make a statement until you speak to a lawyer, you just have to call 911 to get the person help. That is your 5th amendment right not to incriminate yourself in any civil or criminal matter.
No child kills a parent. Period. I was in that situation. Where is everyone getting the abusive bad parent from. She told hi. To do his chores n he was disrespectful n did not obey. N thot it easier to kill her.
I don’t think grandma needed to have custody to let him be questioned. I think she just to be in an approved (by parent) loco parentis.
Imagine allowing a ten year old unfettered access to guns and ammunition. Kids that young have yet to develop the mental capacity to understand that their actions can cause permanent effects for others. Giving them guns is a recipe for disaster.
How can you integrate someone back into society from jail? You have to be taught how to be a decent human being. Something his parents didnt model for him.
A 10 year old, with anger issues for years and a mother that keeps pushing him, all while he has a gun ready to grab (which I still cannot get over btw, with his age and it actually being ready to shoot).
This just spelled disaster in so many ways...
The anger issues were not that of his own. It was a reaction to that of her turbulent life.
@@smartiemartie116 He had anger issues too, it was stated he has BY HIMSELF. Doesn't matter who or what the cause is.
@@Managable_Mayhem yes he does, but he is a product of his environment. At least he was trying to get away from it by staying with a friend. Many older people with knowledge and life experiences go mad and kill out of rage and jealousy. A little kids flying into a rage is no different. Except the fact that he showed control when his sister spoke with him he snapped out of it. The child needs help. It's too bad he had to snap b4 he could get any.
That’s just heartbreaking,he just snapped.Only 10 years old,I think he really lost it without realizing the full consequences of his action.
His mum sounded abusive.I feel sad for this child,his horrible environment made him do it.The whole family does not seem to react much to her death all,like she would be missed much and the abuse would finally stop.
The whole family absolutely failed this child.
Your narrator's amazing.
My blood just boiled when Joey said he should have a lawyer & the cop told him a lawyer can help him whether he talks with the detectives or not. That doesn't even make sense & would lead a child to feel safe being interrogated. That was really sneaky.
Cops are trained to violate our rights be it a 10 year old or 10 month old. They dont care. Just about getting a case closed and a conviction. Courts dont uphold the law they uphold their cop employees and the government. Public defender just works for the court may as well be the prosecutor.
Interrogators are sneaky. Joey asked for “the person who helps”. Aka an attorney. They took advantage of the situation. It makes me cringe when people talk too much to a police officer or interrogator. if you get arrested keep your mouth closed. Talk to an attorney. The cops will try to be nice and accommodating to get you to talk. Don’t fall for it. You are entitled to an attorney. I hope Joey is doing better.
I can see why he now does not trust any therapist to talk about what happened
@@lisamo2598 how would a 10 year old child know that? they completely took advantage of him and now he wont even open up to a therapist
Or the part about him being 10 and they were giving him extra time to "sign this."
The poor kid was living in filth and disarray and an abusive home. He never even knew what love felt like. I feel so sorry for him 😭
Of course feel sorry for a killer. He deserves everything bad coming his way.
@@tycielones3294 He's 10 and already had a history of behavioral issues - and the parents gave him loaded weapons to keep in his own bedroom. I highly doubt he fully comprehended the permanence of what he was doing when he did it. He shouldn't have shot her, but ffs this never would have happened if not for the parents negligence.
@@robincharles7057 ur right about the whole situation but he knew that a gun would kill his mom. My sister is 9 and knows that u think my mom sat her down and told her guns kill no u know that already at that age guns are dangerous.
@@tycielones3294 you are extremely uneducated. I feel sorry for you as well.
@@christinewatson8098 yea sure I am the uneducated one🤣 I know exactly what I am talking about u should feel sorry for urself that ur parents never cared about u to get u an education. I watch and experience things like this all the time. I am so into true crime so u best believe I know what I am talking about.
Telling your child to do their chores and their laundry is abuse? What about the bus driver was he also abusive? The administrator at school that was attacked, were they also abusive? This child has anger issues, the mom did not do anything wrong.
Why does a 10 year old boy have a rifle in his room? That could have been easily avoided by stricter gun laws (as in basically every other country).
I read a book, 'A Boy Called It' or named it and it described a mother's rage directed at just one of her children. The father left her and knew of her mistreatment but did nothing about it. His best revenge was growing up and being successful enough to write a book about how he survived. If there hadn't been guns in the house, perhaps this youngman's life would have taken another route.
'A Child Called It', 'The Lost Boy', and 'A Man Named Dave'
Helped me get through a lot. 🤲
I remember that book
That book was absolutely horrific. His mother is a monster and so is his dad for not saving him.
I read it decades ago. Couldn't put it down for disbelief that this could actually happen, but had to put it down for I couldn't see through the continuous tears.
Back then, men brought home the 'bread' and women took care of home. That father didn't have a chance in that time period.
Congratulations to Dave for saving himself; a pioneer for evolution .
The name of the first book in the trilogy is A CHILD CALLED IT. Author Dave Pelzer.
Hell yeah dude, read that in middle school and it's the only book that made me cry as I read it. The description of the literal prison the child describes, ruled with an iron fist as those around either mock him or are powerless to do anything.
Locking him in the bathroom with bleach and ammonia, whipping stuff at him or beating him for trying to reach out.
If you witness your significant other or family member abusing someone in any way and you do nothing to stop it, you are just as bad as the abuser. Period. I don’t believe for a second that these family members weren’t aware of the abuse inflicted on him by the hands of his own mother.
Mom's get alot of leway to abuse children. Then cps will ignore it until someone dies. Worst case they grow up to do even worse to innocents
Sure plenty of bad fathers before you blow up on that. But only one parent gets excused made for them over and over
He never said he was physically abused ever only verbally abused if that. Sounds like she made him the man of the house by default & he didn’t want to do what she said
Unless your Joe Paterno, than you “did your job”
@@xoangelicaf0523 Yeah let’s let a kid be a man right with no happy playful life as a actual kid ? What kind of logic is that ? Your speeding a child with no development in their brain with no play or real child life at all,He was probably f miserable.Poor kid.
It is so DAMN normalized in the US that an unsecured weapon will be easily available, even to young kids. Also, how can the dad let the kids live this way?
The product of ten years of abuse and neglect. Mom pushed him too many times. I pray he can heal and recover from everything.
Wow. This could’ve been me 12 years ago with my abusive parents. I ultimately didn’t because I knew no one would care as usual, I would be further punished and I still wouldn’t get the help I needed. I lose either way.
Hey I hope you have found a path to peace. As a child none of what happens to us is our fault but it burdens us for the rest of our life. Hope you are better each day
I hope your life is a lot better now.
At least this way you didn’t lose your freedom.
The difference is you were able to control yourself whereas a psychopath cannot
@@phuchyouh7171 That child was most definitely not a psychopath. If he was, he would be proud of his actions and completely composed. Joey was in shock, emotional at times and shaken up about what happened.
The fact that he thought he was going home shows to me he doesn’t even understand the gravity of his actions. This is horrendous:
As the previous goldenchild of a highly narcissistic n abusive parent, i am not surprised by the sister's naivety. It took seeing my other parent bleeding infront of me and eventually my sibling attempting suicide to really bring me to the reality of the manipulation i was swaddled in. Heck, my mind even went so far to block memories of events i was seen present at by multiple people.. maybe his sister's mind did somethin similar. Mental health is heart breakingly neglected in our society even to this modern day...
None of the family members seem upset at the death of this woman. They are all too calm and reserved.
all these people knew exactly how she treated the boy, so it was no surprise. but they all did nothing and just let it happen over and over until a little boy was pushed to the edge
My heart breaks for this little boy...I've got kids his age and honestly, I just want to give him a big hug.
This is so sad, that family really needed help in every way possible. I can't imagine hitting my son or pull him by his hair and talking to him like that. I hope he gets the counseling he needs so when he gets out things get better for him and his family
@@AkashSharma-ib1qx if he hadn't had a gun, he would have done something else with something else.
He probably deserve it the way he doesn’t obey his parents n even kills then whenever he pleases he needs psychopath help
She didn't pull his hair or hit him. That was the father she did that to. I highly doubt the boy was physically abused.
@@tycielones3294 I wonder why you doubt this...
@@lillianwright2641 because he never mentioned once that he was physically abused and also I have a cousin just like him that have really bad anger issues from a young age. That boy would have done this to anyone on a bad day with access to a weapon. He gets mad whenever anytime he is told to do something. His mom probably yelled all the time because he stressed her out with how much he wouldn't listen and caused problems every where he went.
No mother deserves to die at the hands of her child. Maybe she wasn't the best mum, although I didn't hear anything in this story that said she was physically abusive or a bad mum. Maybe if there were no guns in the home this woman would still be alive. Very sad indeed.
I mean the kid has anger issues...where do you think he learned that?
Poor kid. Not fair everything he went through in his life.
If this video struck a bad chord with anyone because you have anger issues and scream at your kids, or know someone who does, PLEASE INTERVENE! Before it’s too late. My Momma had a cruel side to her, to all of us kids. I had PTSD flashbacks of her abuse one day when triggered, and it was over 10 years after I had left home. My siblings and I still have issues from a sour childhood. It wasn’t fair. That being said, EVERY child deserves a loving and mostly peaceful atmosphere at home. So don’t be afraid to speak up to the right person. You might save a life, without even knowing it. At the least, you could help make someone’s better.
I felt for that father, when he said "i mean, this is really hard to say stuff about her that will make it seem like I'm trying to make her sound mean"
Idk his position, but as a man who now has full custody over his children, due to the chaotic toxic Abuse/behavior from their mother. I know that for me, the hardest thing after our separation was speaking about her honestly. I was and STILL am afraid to talk about things from my past with her. While in the relationship and during the ten years after leading up to me finally being able to obtain custody, I was seen as the lier, the abuser, I was known by so many people as a dead beat who used drugs and beat women . I feel actual fear telling people about who she actually was because so many people have sat right there and listened only to later sit in a court room and tell a judge that im just a manipulator or spiteful. Or I'd hear from someone else how they'd said something along those lines. My kids lived with her through so much, she had so many people under her thumb, for ten years I would go for emergency custody after she'd dropped the kids off and disappeared from earth for a month, two months. I tried 5times to pull the kids out of state custody, moved entire states twice, only to watch the kids go back to her. Even after things like my son telling his teacher his mom threw knives at him, or the time someone saw their mother posted an add on Craigslist asking anyone to come take the kids for a while to give her a break. My kids vanished from my life for three years, no news on them at all. Finally I was informed by Florida state socal services that they were taken again, and this time I was surprisingly taken seriously as a father. Oops I didn't realize that I was on a tangent, well if you got to the end of this... yeah, I felt those words that guy spoke in that moment.
I’m not a parent but I am a nurse. I saw too many children brought into the ER for abuse and a lot of times it was the father who brought the child/children in. It used to make me mad when the police would point the finger at the fathers thinking they were the ones responsible. I usually had to make them leave so myself and the doctor could finish what had to be done. Trust me when I say I believe what you are saying. I just pray that your ordeal is over and that your children are finally safe and loved.
I feel for you! My son was taking his ex to court for his daughter. Ex was always saying bad things about him to his little girl. It hurt her so bad. Every time she had to go back home from his weekend she would cry & sob that she didn't want to go back. He has custody of her now.
Went thought the same exact thing except i was the child and my narsasic mother lost custody of me and my sister. My mother told all her friend and everyone she knew over Facebook etc about how I'm a piece of shit and my father is. This went on for 3 years and it finally ended early this year as my father has full custody of me and my sister now. It still effects me somehow nearly a year later as I've been trying to find a second job after being laid off from my other job and local business owners that are friends with her won't hire me I assume over the bullshit she tells them.
@@greaniebeaniez3070 Jesus I am sorry you've had to / still have to go through that. It amazes me the way things work with us humans. No one cares what the child want especially in the event that they believe they understand what is best for them. Whether it is a guardian ad litem a judge social worker, it doesn't matter. What matters to them is their own personal point of view. It's because of this they are so easily manipulated by narcissistic type people..
It's very interesting to hear this coming from the children's perspective. I only have my own, and my kids are still so young they do not fully articulate their experiences or opinions. I do know that they do not want to go anywhere other then with me, and as much as I love that I also hate it. I hate that they could not just have what I had set out to give to them. A mother and a father who loved them, raise them, and did all the things that my parents did and their friends parents do. What Hurts the Most to me is that their mother just simply refuses to accept responsibility, to the point where she cannot change the way she treats people. Not even for her own kids, it's because of this that I consider narcissists to be cowards. So afraid to feel the slightest bit of emotional discomfort that they projected all out onto others in order to selfishly protect themselves.
@@albrnbsnus they are certainly safe and loved. But our judicial system is very ridiculous. I said in my comment how the kids mother would loose custody, and I'd watch her hardly have to jump through any hoops to get them back. Often it was within two weeks of them taking the kids, they'd bring them straight back. Not for me though, because during the beginning of my custody battle I was not informed straight away that I was only fighting for custody of my daughter, and needed to prove I was my son's father in order to fight for him. This was because I was only able to sign my daughter's birth certificate, and not my sons. Regardless once I found this out (as ludicrous as this may sound, it was some 9months into the court proceedings beforei learnedfor the first time i needed to provideproof i was my sons dad), I was able to provide proof of this through a past DNA test and child support orders. The state where I live performed a home study though, that home study was done for only my daughter. While the caseworker was inside of my home, through talking she discovered that both of my children will be moving up here with me, so she put in her documentation and paperwork that the home study was going to be performed for two children, therefore my home passed the home study for two children to move in with me.
This home study went back to florida, (where the kids were living), i went back to court for several more months until eventually i "won" and my children moved up to live with me.
and now 10 months later I learned that my son might, maybe, be removed from my home pending a new home study!!!
Somehow some way they screwed up, and they do not care that New York Social Services said my home is okay for two children, that because their documents stated the home study was for one child, even though New York says it's good for two children I probably need a new home study done. Social services was supposed to be out of my life over 4 months ago. They were supposed to begin visiting my home the first month my kids moved here, 10 months ago. Instead they never showed up after my kids moved in with me. Not for 6 months, so when finally they did show up that's when the court started their 6 months visitation. Now it's been 10 months my children have lived with me, I should be on one of my last visits with the caseworker coincidentally tomorrow, but instead I'm going to have to continue to deal with social services until this new home study can be performed, all the while running the risk of them randomly removing my Son temporarily.
Another big issue I have with this, is all I have ever done is try to be there for my children. I've never broken the law, do not drink alcohol or use drugs, I'm a contractor who owns his own business, own my own home, and have done nothing but attempt to have a life with my children and I have had to deal with social services for over 2 years,( between Court and the kids living with me it's almost). Every time I think I'm done with them, they find a new excuse to leech on to Our Lives. like they just can't let me go and can't let us move forward with our lives. That makes me so upset so often just the thought of it and I go on these long tangents online LOL
"He went into HIS ROOM, retrieved A FIREARM"
That's some good parenting right there...a 10 yo with a gun rack in his bedroom.
Am I the only one who is fcking confused over how a 10 year old has weapons in his room??
This poor kid was literally screaming and yelling for help for years. And, he suffered not only from his own afflictions , but from those of his mother too, in my humble opinion. Such a sad, sad case.
lol poor kid, getting called lazy and told to do house chores. lmfao
And the adult family members did nothing to help the poor boy. Cold grandmother & mother!
@Sandokan way to dismiss a child's cry for help your a piece of shit dude I hope you don't procreate
@@carolsmart238 that fact you actually stand up for this kid who murdered his mom lmfao. only because he had to do some chores. hopefully hes never released, he will eventually get mad and kill again.
@@carolsmart238 Whoa! Why leave the father out from the blame? Lol. If the mother has had to deal with this constantly then she would likely have had high stress levels. For all we know it could be that the grandmother and father were both enablers. The grandmother told the kid to grab the gun again and put it back in the room even after he had already pointed the rifle at the sister too and had dropped the gun on the couch. If someone shoots a person and drops the gun, you wouldn't tell him or her to get the gun and put it away lol You would grab the gun and keep it away from that person.
The fact that he was talking about living with his grandmother breaks my heart since it was obvious he was in an unstable household.
the grandma is so chill about her daughter being killed... it sounds like she saw it coming and would happily take care of joey
He shot his own mother he deserved a much more harsh punishment. So what she yelled at him a lit bit and called him lazy. He looks lazy. And her yeeling at him isn't worthy of death by this spoiled little brat. This is what's wrong with kids today no accountability. I feel sorry for the daughter that had to lose her mother and live that traumatic experience of seeing her die. Not the spoiled lazy little brat you can look at him and tell the only thing he does is eat and play video games smh
My mom and her boyfriend were both abusive when I was little and I took far, far worse than my sister did. When I became a teen, I occasionally thought of using his .22 to shoot him in his sleep, because I just couldn't stand how he hit my mom and threw her around, how he treated all of us. The only reason I didn't was because I was afraid a .22 wouldn't work in one shot and he'd be able to take the gun away. He used to tell me he'd kill me if he saw me touch it, and I believed him. My mom and that made have left me fighting PTSD all my life, and only a few years ago I found that he had been sexually abusing my little sister. Now I have to live with the guilt and shame of thinking if I had shot him, if my little sister hadn't had to go through what she went through. We're almost estranged but it has been sometimes comforting to talk about the abuse we went through, as neither of us talked about it when we were little. We were both scared, and the age gap was just big enough that I was gone every minute I could be, living at my friends' houses as often as I could to get away from these people, while she was trapped with them.
I feel so, so bad for this little boy. There but for the grace of god go I
Please tell me those monsters faced some sort of justice
I'm gonna be honest maybe a hot take but I think it's a terrible idea to give a fucking 10 year old three guns to keep in his room
The mom was obviously not all there plus she abused everyone around her. She was bipolar as well... imagine being 10 years old around her.. fuck.
How is that a hot take, damn... I swear americans are special ahahah
In rural areas, it's not uncommon. Most kids learn safety and respect for firearms by 5 years old. I had many friends who had their own rifles and shotguns at a young age, but the firearms were not to be touched. This boy was at his wits end and was at a breaking point.
@@TheCrashley1772 that's a scary society
@@KimAhrina11 stay in yours then where you can play victim when your door is kicked in you are beat to death while waiting for police to get there to load up your body and start the investigation and when its not a gun its a knife the kids use to kill their parents
I was wrong to quickly criticize Joey on how a ten year old boy has access to a deadly weapon. Then I heard the whole story. I hope the young man finds peace and his mental burdens eased.
I heard the whole story and I'm still shocked that a 10 year old kid has 3 rifles in his room. What the fuck?!
@@NetSraC1306 Just another example of terrible parenting.
WHY WHY WHY did they allow investigators to question a TEN YEAR OLD without an attorney??
darkness aside, tell me those aren't 2 of the coolest officer names you've ever heard lol
As a mother to a child not much younger then Joey was when the shooting happened, it just breaks my heart seeing him and hearing him. As adults, in the best of situations, we can still struggle with regulating or even understanding our emotions... so a 10 year old who had recently experienced one hard & disappointing thing after another topped off with emotional and sometimes physical abuse he just couldn't take it anymore. He deserved better.
And he's soon gonna have puberty to deal with if not now.
Am I missing something? I just watched the whole video and I'm not missing context. Why are you defending the murderer? Many people have difficult childhoods and don't murder their parents. What is wrong with you?
Total BS!
@@ChristopherLeBlancArtAndDesign There are a lot of very stupid people on the internet! There was zero excuse for murdering his mother.
I always argued with my mother ( i m an adult now) but never ever i wanted to kill her. This os just not normal
This is what happens when a parent treats her child like a piece of trash. This was the years of emotional and physical abuse just boiling and boiling. He’s a 10 year old kid and he probably felt like he had it 20,000 pounds on his shoulders, it was because of his own mother. I truly hope this kid gets a lot of help, he really needs it.
It's America you are contribution will be remembered
Asshole just because he was asked to collect wood and can't control his rage shot his mom
That's evil
He is a killer
That poor boy.. A person can only take so much and she obviously pushed this young man to the point of no return.
Allowing a 10 year old to have rifles nowadays is ridiculously irresponsible.
I was in this type of family dynamic, my oldest sibling always was the "golden child" and got anything she wanted. I was the "scapegoat youngest" always blamed for my parents issues. "stress and their mental illness" I fought with them a lot, but 5 years ago I disowned every one of them. Said fuck it and I'm happier now. Big difference between family, and relatives.
I was also emotionally, physically and sexually abused as a child. My older brother was the golden child, I wasn't. It was hell, I couldn't wait to escape. I feel for this child, it's too bad he felt he had no one to turn to as many of us are too scared to speak up. I didn't until I was in my 30's. Such horrible parenting, so many lives destroyed
You did not escape until your 30s?!
@@cadespencer6320 no,I didn't talk about it until I was in my thirties. I didn't actually escape the emotional issues until much later because I also went through two abusive marriages. Now I'm single and living off grid in my Airstream with my dogs out in the middle of nowhere. I'm finally free of my past ,doing great and loving it. I have found I can do anything I set my mind to with no judgement from anyone. It's very freeing and my health is better than it's ever been.
I feel for this young boy. I was abused physically and mentally from 5 years old up until I was 13. By a man my mother met and both of them took it in turns daily. Thankfully I was taken into foster care, it took me years to trust anyone and I turned to drug addiction all through my teenage years. I've still got scars on my body and wake up some night's sweating from nightmares. I'm 40 now and beaten the drug's and alcohol, have a beautiful home with my wife. Turned to making music instead of drugs when shit gets difficult it's great to shut off from the world and make music. I do have mental health problems, ptsd & depression but I'm definitely in a happier place. It breaks my heart when I see or hear about child abuse because I know exactly how it feels.
I wish the best for you, brother.
man I thought I was reading my own life story there wild dude. I was heavily drugged as a child by my parents because I didnt "sit still" in school. My dad was very physically abusive. I spent most my teens and 20s partying and doing stuff I shouldnt be because they fucked my brain up. It took me many many years to get straight. I too found music and now DJ and own a production company with a happy wife, life and 2 beautiful thriving children
@@iamisobe stay away from those bad things, be a great role model for the kids. Past is past. Be grateful always, hoping the best for you all 💪
Good for you brother..... so glad you got out of that situation still more or less in one piece. My abuse was never within my family....home was my safe place, and that made it easier to deal with..... can't imagine what you went through. Best wishes from New Zealand.... 🙂
Screw you. I'll match sob stories with any one's child life and still didn't kill parents.
I feel bad for this kid and I feel like his sister was no good. Even though she describes him as evil at that moment, you can see how hurt and disturbed that little child was. I hope kids like Joey can get some help where they dont have to deal with people so called family.
This just makes me want to appreciate the love, warmth, care, guidance I get from my parents even now.
It is sad how life takes an ugly turn for others and it’s especially heartbreaking to see a child suffer in the hands of their parents who just so happens to want to abuse their children. This is so so so sad😢
Why the hell would anyone let children own a gun, knowing how impulsive children can be?
I love your content! I watch body cam stuff all the time but your production skill and focus on pertinent info puts it far ahead of any other channel I’ve found. I’ve watched all of the videos you have up and am waiting anxiously for your next one 👍🏽
What’s most disturbing is that a 10 year old had such easy access to a deadly weapon
That is the most disturbing thing..really? Freaking idiot
Exactly
A lot of you people have never been to the South, huh? In Texas, Florida, New Mexico, etc, there's at least 10 guns for every person. It's common place, and not surpising in the least.
@@shockmazta3116 I live in the south. Just because firearms are everywhere doesn’t negate the fact a 10 year old got to so easily. The point is, it’s a 10 year old so all the weapons in the house should be locked or hidden.
@@shockmazta3116 that's incredibly stupid, my god... Murica I guess
I've been through a rough childhood myself, but not in this scale, yet this makes me feel messed up. Sadly, a LOT of kids nowadays are like this because of bad parenting and social media.
My mother was incredibly abusive growing up. There had been two times when I almost ended her life.
Once when I put a pillow over her face while she was drugged out on the couch sleeping. The second when her friends dumped her at my grandmother's while she was overdosing, my grandmother woke me up so I could come see her while she was purple, foaming from the mouth, and convulsing. She then asked me -- a child -- whether or not we should even call an ambulance, whether I thought it would be worth saving her.
It hurts my entire being to know children can feel so desperate for their terrible situations to stop that they kill their parent(s).
You just confessed to attempted murder 🤡
Unless your mom regularly tried to kill or grape you, you have no reason to even think of ending her life. I wish you have children that attempt to end your life.
That's so messed up. I'm sorry you were put through that crap. You were just a kid and did deserve any of that.
Your grandma was sick of her too, she probably thought what would you want. I wish I could decided that with my father, he beat the crap out of me everyday and I really hoped I had the chance.
Oh my god. I'm so sorry you had to go through that.
I hope this channel gets the recognition it deserves, so you can continue to upload videos like this. The quality is just as amazing as your main channel, thank you for all the work you put into these!
This channel is run by another channel as well.
This must be a backup account.
They have 3 more channels, all very good