Me😅 I looked at the thumbnail and thought to myself “hmmm that girl looks familiar” took me about 30 seconds to realize she was a character from a tv show
@@JNDReactsthis! Let’s also talk about how Ali drugged them, and (idk if any of them found out that it was her) if they had confronted her about that..l.she would’ve been arrested because it’s also to drug/spike someone’s drink without their knowledge or permission.
this is so true like i seriously would’ve needed at least a day of recovery after just traveling to hilton head but she just went straight to business, it’s insane. i NEED her work ethic.
Maybe Alison's couple hours during "prior engagement" were when she took a nap, ate some food, combed her wigs, and just took a freaking break. Girl is busy!
well technically she doesn't lie about her age she says she's taking English lit as a class and he assumes she means in Hollis College and so he thinks she's older than she is but really she Isn't. Also we do find out that he knew her true age because of Ali and was wanting to write the novel about them. But that's kinda what I thought like how was he pissed at Ali for lying about her age but then he literally pursues an inappropriate relationship with his student.
@@kyrotv8156 Yeah and even then she doesn't really lie about her age she just says she's taking English lit and he says he's gonna be teaching it and so even if he didn't know which he did he just assumed she mean't at hollis and was a college student. But then when they talking about Ali's missing person poster he knows that she was one of Ali's friends and so he used her to write his book.
@@madisonbusby1457 I get what you’re all saying. I mean she was trying to seem older in that first meeting. I feel that omitting the truth in those situations is technically a lie when you’re trying to appear older and in college when you’re 16 in high school. But yes, you’re both right that at the end of the day he knew she was a teenage and dated her anyway. The entire thing is so messed up and so many levels.
he knew her age. he was writing a book about what happened to ali. he wasnt supposed to fall for her (in the show he was but ezra wasnt planning on falling for her)
ok but are we gonna acknowledge that “vivian darkbloom” is such a campy alias lol like if some lady showed up and gave me that name wearing that outfit i’d be like i need to see an ID immediately
Vivian Darkbloom Is alias that comes from book named Lolita and at one point Allison was seen reading Lolita (that's why she chose this alias) And also Vivian Darkbloom was an alias for the writer "Vladimir Nabokov" ironic how this show was mentioning Lolita so much while romanticizing relationships between teen character and those creepy men 🥴
If the writers had done their job right and had actually sat down and put in half of the effort you did for that video MAYBE the show and the timeline would have made sense and this video would have been easier to put together but I'm grateful for the amount of work that went into this, this is impressive!!
Doing the lords work I see😩Allison and Mona are the MENACES OF THE CENTURY!! But it really is INSANE that these 16 year olds were out here blackmailing, blinding, and MURDERING each other😭
I remember when i first discovered and got into pll back when i was around 11/12 and being CONVINCED that I could be a ✨️mysterious✨️ ✨️powerful✨️ girlie like alison who knows everybody and keeps tabs like a bad bitch. This show's influence on our generation was something else.
What I wanna understand is how Alison planned her day to interact with every citizen of rosewood, flew back in state, when did she plan to drug the girls, and the fact that this all happens when she’s like 14 is insane to me Shoutout Sasha Pieterse who was 12 when the pilot was recorded
35:34 I think Melissa was panicking, thinking Spencer killed Allison with the shovel, so she came barging in demanding to know if Allison was in there, hoping she was.
But then Melissa confesses she was the one that buried Bethany thinking Spencer killed her also - so like its also makes no sense because why would she have killed both
Wouldn’t it make more sense that she came into Alison’s room first looking for her and then went outside trying to find her because she wasn’t in her room?
I also love that the grave at the point where Melissa finds Bethany is just a perfect rectangle as if Grunwwald just neatly dug Alison out instead of just roughly pulling her out the dirt
But they found Bethany in the back yard when they dig up the gazebos or whatever and I always thought Alison was buried in the front yard in the flower bed.
@@emilyradcliff783 same, the first and the second time I watched the show I thought Alison was buried there. In fact, there's a moment when one of the girls tells Ali her mother was buried in the same place she was, and her mother was buried in the front yard lol
@@emilyradcliff783 yeah Alison was buried in the front yard because she goes back the house at one point and her mum sees her get hit in the head by Cece through the window
I actually think Duncan did know Alison's real name because when he was talking with Aria he asks her what Vivian's real name was to prove she is a real friend of Alison's. "And if you're her friend, you'll know her real name."
What I want to know is how Mona had a car when she was supposed to be 15. Cuz when Aria comes back and meets Ezra she’s 16 and it’s the start of her junior year of high school, so the summer before they would’ve all been 15. I suppose it’s possible Mona had recently turned 16, but given her level of intelligence you think she would’ve tested into Kindergarten when she was 5 instead of having to wait until she turned 6 to start…
in my state you can get your learners permit when you turn 15 and can get your license at 15 and a half so idk what the driving laws are like in Pennsylvania but she could’ve been driving anyway by using her parents car or her own car that she drives anyway even though she doesn’t have a license
the amount of teleportation that ali does in the span of this 24 hours is insane. and the only way i can justify the bracelet being with bethany is that ali lost it in the grave trying to dig herself out and the police just found it in there with bethany’s corpse. whether she’s wearing it or not i heavily question. and lol wilden is 50 💀
@@Bunny-bk4uvI strongly believe Ali knew how to drive. Unless she had unlimited access to ubers and cabs she would have needed a car. Ali probably had one of her older bf's teacher her how to drive and she just had a fake I.D.
@@faycoleman9023 ye she's the one driving when she runs away (after spending the night w mona), and mona picks alison up in a car she's also driving that night. rosewood's clearly and incredibly-wealthy area, so i expect that it's pretty normal for most of the kids to be taught to drive from a younger age, so theyre ready to immediately begin the process of driving when they come of age
What i never understood is the geography of rosewood. Where did ali's family live? how maya moved into ali's house on the street near emily, where jenna and toby also lived. They found ali's body there. But this whole night is at spencers barn. And ali's family moves nextdoor to spencer after she dissappears. But in the flashbacks they're also living there. But spencer is not near Emily at all
i always assumed the girls all lived in the same neighborhood just not on the same street bc any scene of them walking to each others house, it’s like a block over or down the road. ali and spencer were next door neighbors. ali’s house was right behind spencer’s house. maya lived in alis house and emilys mom sends her over with a gift basket to welcome her to the neighborhood so again i’m assuming they all live in the same zip code. emily and toby/jenna are next door neighbors and garret lived across from emily. they find alis body at alis house. the sleepover is held in spencer’s barn but ali is buried in her own backyard. ali’s family moves away when she disappears but since mayas family moves after sending her to rehab camp, jason buys the house back and lives in it and then the mom and dad eventually move back in too. mona also lives in the same neighborhood bc in the books she lives right across of spencer but the show doesn’t really touch on where mona lives in closeness to the other girls. but yeah they all live in the same neighborhood and ali and spencer lived next to each other and then emily and toby/jenna lived next to each other
In the books Toby and Emily are next door neighbors, Spencer and Ali are next door neighbors (living in a much richer side of town) and Hanna is on her own street. How far away they all are is still a mystery.
The way I understood was let’s say block A is Hanna,Toby & Emily while block D(their houses are close to the woods rosewood plus those families are the richest ones.) is where Spencer & Ali live. The Block B & C is where Aria & Mona live. Block C is Aria because I remember Spencer saying “any siren at your house I can hear at my house” when aria was at Ezra’s
Spencer and Ali were always supposed to be neighbors. It was like that in the books and im somewhat sure it was mentioned at one point in the show (dont quote me on that, i cant remember so much of the show at times 😭). After Ali disappeared the Dilaurentis' moved out and rented the house out to Maya's family. Then her family moved out and Jason moved back in, eventually joined by the rest of the Dilaurentis'. I think the confusion comes from the fact that they changed the outdoor setting for Alis house at one point in the series. I could be totally wrong tho, I always get the timeline of events in this show mixed up 😭
901 (September 1st) was labor day weekend 2008. I think the writers had forgotten that Alison was missing for about a year before the show started so they used labor day of 2009. That's the only reason I can think of the wonky dates
2 things from an american, in relation to around 20:00 : 1. how long it takes to go from georgia to south carolina depends on where you're going in each state. idk if in PLL it ever says specifically where in these states Alison was meant to be, but georgia and south carolina border each other, so technically it could be a five minute drive if you're going from the edge of georgia to the edge of south carolina. there's some towns that are even located in both states, split right down the middle :) 2. i know british people don't see it this way, but an hour and a half is NOT a long commute for us americans, lol. i know several people who have to drive an hour and a half every morning to get to work (which is incredibly depressing, but it puts into context how spending 1.5 hours traveling is no big deal to us. it's because everything is so far apart here.) i have to drive an hour to get into my nearest big city, and that's a short drive to me. if i'm driving into the city for a party i'm like "oh, it's only an hour drive!" so an hour and a half long plane ride wouldn't be a big deal, other than that they were in a small plane and you might need to refuel when you land.
Alison did everything that night, her schedule was CRAZY but can we talk about how Marlene wrote Alison and Ian's story with him tapping a minor and we all were cool with it??
@@avafurgele7899 For real. 💀 I guess Jessica cared more about Charlotte than Alison? Because to her Charlotte was her other child and Alison was a headache maybe? Lol Even so, WILD!
i was watching this video and when you mentioned that you were working on a video explaining the hastings/dilaurentis/drake family tree, i literally said, out loud, "hUh? girl- good luck, i could never". in all seriousness though- the amount of effort you put into these videos in INSANE and i love them
It’s insane to think about how much stemmed from this day given how horrible the writers were with continuity 😂 like Sydney for example doesn’t come into the show until s4-s5 but she was behind the scenes for years before that
also shana, she was her grandma’s neighbor in georgia 😭 and on top of that it’s implied that she only got the NAT videos this day but had been using them as blackmail before. So had she seen them before? had she just heard ian or jason talk about them? was she in on Ian filming her/the girls for them?
Can we PLEASE stop and just R E A L I Z E how murderous the girls (but people in general, too) in Rosewood were?! I cannot even phantom that, but also the fact that even SPENCER wanted to swing at Alison??? Plus - what do you think Spencer was doing between her talking with Ali and then coming to the barn and telling the girls she heard a scream???
@@CoriBeth01well Elliot was an accident she was driving the car that hit and killed him and noel fell on that axe all on his own so i say she didn't do it
Ali said that after her and Spencer fought and found the drugs that she brought her back to barn.. she also said that when she left Spencer was sound asleep
Depending on what part of Georgia Alison’s grandma is, they could be right by Hilton Head. Savannah, GA has a bridge that goes over the Savannah River, which makes South Carolina and Hilton head like a 20 ish minute
I was looking for this comment! I was like if her grandma lived in Savannah, Hilton head is not that far and Savannah is literally such a big city it’s probable she could live there!!!!!
I believe it was later stated that Melissa was calling Garrett when she says, “what do I have to do dial 911 to get your attention.” Because he was a cop.
9:47 confuses me. I thought Alison didn't check in at The Lost Woods resort as Vivian until after Mona found her on the road with blood trailing down the side of her head. Mona did say "I put the room under the name you told me to. Vivian Darkbloom." It was something like that.
Heey, love your pll deepdives! And honestly, one of the things i love about the show is that after yearrss of watching rewatching it and recaps and going down rabbit holes, looking for answers and all that, i'm still finding out new stuff and have many things that i'm just connecting... mindblowing. and i love that there are other people just as obsessed as i am, thank you for that haha
OMG you did amazing with every single detail. Yellow tops are hard to find lol. I actually do have a yellow top, not an exact replica because mine is yellow with black dots but still love it. I also have a yellow swimsuit and yellow sleep shorts.
I think I would’ve liked if the show started with Allison dealing with A alone and then Allison is dead, us as viewers assume A killed her and then they go for the girls and the show carries on as it is. I always liked the flash backs of Ali before going missing
I feel like we should’ve gotten an entire episode (similar to the throwback to halloween before Ali’s disappearance ) that is just the events of that day, in order, and some extra fluff thrown in the fill in the gaps. Would’ve been great.
This video is so wonderful, cause I watched the shows from around the end of season 1 up until season 5 or so, as it aired, and I had forgotten SO many details as the years passed. Haven't seen seasons 6 or 7 either. But having you put all of the pieces together in place is so fun to watch. And now that I've decided to start the show from the beginning, it may help ensure I understand everything going on.
OMG! THIS IS TOO CRAZY!! I had this idea a few months ago and told my sister I wished the someone would go through the entire night she disappeared AND clip all the scenes together in chronological order so you could watch from start to finish !!!!
haha i love your description of hilton head as a golf club 😂😂 hilton head is actually an island, off the coast of south carolina. it’s like a whole city, but it’s mainly a town where people go on holiday. i think there are a few, or maybe a lot idk lol, of golf courses and country clubs there, and i’m sure that a lot of people do go there to golf. but it’s a really popular holiday destination for families bc there’s a lot of resorts and shopping and tourist stuff to do. there’s a lot of nice beaches and a lot of people get around the town on bikes that they rent. it’s really nice haha i have only been once but i live in cincinnati, ohio and i hear about people going to hilton head all the time lol but i’m also kind of obsessed with your description of hilton head bc it’s great haha anyway sorry for the novel but thought i’d comment for the algorithm and to tell you to put hilton head on your usa bucket list because you’d love it!! and i’m only five minutes into the video but i am a big fan so far lol
Would love to see a pre-disappearance video Wasn't Ali 14 when she was with Ezra? Bc when Aria comes back she's 16, the year before then Ali went missing during summer, and it was the summer before that one Ali was with CeCe&Wilden&Jason wherever on that boat?
@@sarahgolley4086she wasn’t 15. When Aria comes back it’s the girls junior year. When Ali went missing it was before their freshman year. You have to remember that Aria was gone for a year
@@Jessica.ShawnteThe show has a lot of discrepancies because I’m watching PLL S3 right now and Paige said that Ali bullied her through freshmen year. But Ali went missing before freshmen year right? Aria returns before sophomore year starts and her body is found. I want to say that the girls were 16, so Ali went missing when she was 15🤷🏾♀️
@@Yazyyaunna seasons 1-3 is their junior year. Another way to tell is Aria & Mike are 2 years apart. He was a freshman when they came back because when Mona “died” they were seniors so Mike would have to be a sophomore. Another way to tell is the season after Mya dies starts in their last days of summer they became seniors
19:00 from what i remember she went to georgia to try to convince her grandma to take jason out of her will which is why there was a possible motive for jason to kill ali, also the flight from south carolina to pennsylvania in duncan’s plane probably would’ve been shorter than a regular airport flight
How is all of this happening in a summer night?? Winter maybe I could believe but apparently in Philadelphia sunrise is 5:30am and sunset is 8:30pm in summer??????
I saw a new PLL video With Alison in the title and I DROPPED everything I was doing to watch this. Perfect video, thank you for your hard work! I'm sick and this is exactly what I needed today! 🥺💞💞 And I would also love to see a video of pre-disappearence Alison's life, it was quite eventful!
Literally!!!! I just left a comment about it. I hated that they made her both red coat and black widow to this day. Like why would she agree to work with Cece?? She didnt even know the girls and what was she doing for more than 2 years??🙄🤦
Maybe Ali's first A was Jenna not Mona, and Sydney&Shana joined in when they heard about Ali blinding Jenna, but they were only in on the A texts at this point they weren't ride or die for Jenna yet which is why Jenna uses Ian to go confront/get revenge on Ali
PLL was the show that taught me that apparently in the US (at least in some states), children as young as like 15 are allowed to drive cars lol I remember being so confused and later looking it up on the internet
I like to think Allison went home to confront her final suspect Jessica, but Charlotte shows up thinking it was Bethany before Allison confronted her. And Mona/Melissa + Charlotte/Jessica essentially did strangers on a train without even realising it with Charlotte/Jessica nearly killing Allison and Mona/Melissa actually killing Bethany.
The fact that this whole video is about her disappearance is crazy, I think people actually forget how much of an impact her disappearance had on the story; not just in season one but throughout the series
23:24 Okay when did she threaten to out Paige? if it was that same day that could've been what she was doing before dinner with her parents! or maybe she went to see Ezra? 25:41 Apparently Jessica actually gave clothes to Bethany and even made her call her aunt Jessica also, Cece was also wearing the yellow top. So Jessica bought 3 sets of clothes. She loves when her girls match. 28:04 You forgot she also got into an argument with Spencer. Alison was booked and Busy. (Nevermind) 36:32 Maybe she went to look for Cece to bring her back to Radley?
Okay so let me just start by saying. Damn, I couldn't do what you did. Big props! Second of all, I'm halfway through and I had some comments and thoughts. To start with one: I don't think Wilden is told everything about what Jessica did in the flashback, on that night. I think he just got paid for the fact that CeCe (someone he is seen with on the boat in a photo with both Ali and CeCe (so a friend?) escaped and that needs to be stricken from the record. That is why, he only knows one thing for sure at the beginning. Ali is dead, Cece (a friend who only comes in at season 3 is not available) but these girls are hiding something. I think, he thinks, they know what happened... And they're purposefully not telling it. That combined with his ego and narcism is the reason he tries to get it out of the liars, any means necessary. My biggest theory is... A controversial one. I think Wren was supposed to be Big A, starting season 3. The biggest hints are in Season 4, the only episode Wren (Julian Morris) is in 4x10 "The Mirror Has Three Faces". Mona tells him that she killed Wilden because she realised that the Liars and her are on the same side of the problems. She confronts him about keeping secrets from him, "because she realised where his loyalties layed" -- I think she is talking about being shady together with Cece (since he knows that shit too about the red coat, since he draws them at the end of the episode) -- The next thing he does when he meets Hannah is call someone "to take care of the problem on their end, and he will do that too" -- I think it's Cece (hence he draws or colors the red coat at the end when he got what he wanted! The truth out about Mona not killing Wilden and making an illegal confession -- Wren goes to freaking Veronica Hastings and manipulates her into thinking Mona is dangerous for the girls and "hasn't forgiven them and wants to see them hurt" to get the truth out. -- IF EVERYTHING IS SWITCHED WAIT FOR IT -- Wren killed Wilden by the Lake with the gun shooting him twice (as the featurette "whodunnit" in season 7 suggest because Charlotte shot Wilden) -- That means he knows Mona is lying and tries to outsmart her and the liars. Because... Here it comes. Jullian Morris (Wren Kingsley) was supposed to be revealed as Charles DiLaurentis. Wait here. Charles (is the son of Mary Drake along with Spencer) Spencer and Charles AKA Wren are both brown haired, just like their mother and his father would be Pastor Ted, a blonde haired guy! I believe Wren was the original choice but Julian wasn't availlable and that is why they chose ANDREW (yeah, that guy) as a back-up Charles. He got arrested around the same time before season 6 happened, which meant that he both couldn't star on the show anymore and it would hurt the image since it wasn't Freeform yet. And still ABC Family. And to top it off... If Wren is actually Charles, that means that everything in Season 6, the boy with the blonde hair *in the flashbacks as charles* needs to be removed. And in "Game Over, Charles" Bethany AND Charles can actually be old enough at the age of Toby's age of 15 because... Wren/Charles is older then Spencer! So when Toby was 15, Charles/Wren could actually be old enough to still be in Radley along with Bethany. Another fun thing... Just ignore the fact that he works at Radley later, because I think he would have some blackmail or something which would give him access to work there. Or... He really did got out at 18 and went to medical school becoming Wren Kingston. He is in EPISODE 1. ONE. And... That would make everything they TRIED to do connecting him to the fever dream of Alex Drake actually make freaking sense. Wren would figure it out, he does tell Cece that but not because she needs to know. Cece still meets Archer on the plane and I think Wren and Cece were the actual partners who tried to be A together, with Wren or Charles being the BIG A. Noel, Jenna, Sydney, Shana and everyone else were just onder their thumb and were only allowed to speak about it with Cece. Not knowing who was truly behind it all... The entire flashback of "that night" becomes soo clear, because then Cece CAN be talking to Melissa in the garden as Jason hallucinated and like what was said in the video. Was probably to be CANON. That would mean that Wren/Charles hit Bethany with a rock on her head, for trying to kill his mother or who he thinks his mother is, or aunt if knows that Mary Drake is his mother (as the file suggest in 6x20 that they find in the Radley Hotel). We all wanted it to be Wren (big a, i mean) and I think alot of the story beats where thought of since season 3 except for the whole Charles becoming Cece, actually being a girl and everything. And it is shown, because there was a lot of hatred from making a trans character the villain and I actually think, it wasn't the plan. This was. Because this would finally make this show work. Untill season 5 and a bit of season 6. We can all agree it was freaking random that Wren met Alex Drake in England, got into a relationship with her, ended up shooting her and got turned into a diamond. Because even then MARLENE said: "We wrote the scene for Wren to be killed by Alex, but we couldn't get him for the many days we needed" - So... Julian was shown to already be unavailable at much times, that is why they couldn't make him Big A, even though everything was leading up for it to be... Plus, If Alex Drake would have actually killed Big A (Charles) and they would be in a relationship together (as making season 7 canon in this theory) that would actually be the most insane plot point of it all. But it would make ALL THE SENSE Of THE WORLD. And to finish it all... I think that is the story Marlene told Keegan and Troian around season 5 as what has been revealed to be "the storytime of the entire ending of the show". That would also make the whole Alex Drake thing a little less convoluted, if Charles/Wren is his sister. Another thing i found out the flashback of Jessica storming in at Alisson behind the piano telling her that "she got called that her daughter was in Radley a danger to herself" but it was actually Cece Drake, would also be cleared up this way. And that plot inconsistency and guess what freaking episode that flashback is also from... 4x10, again. That episode reveals the outline, I think what actually was supposed to happen after Ali turned out Alive, and... Told that ther mother burried her. Meaning it was Charles/Wren who burried Jessica at the end, since she was killed by her twin sister... I think after that he learns that Mary Drake is actually his mother. Thus being mad at her and him having met Archer Dunhill because of Cece being his Right Hand Girl. That would explain why Archer would try to work with Mary Drake and screw her over at the very last second, having revenge for Charles/Wren. Because Mary thinks she is trying to get revenge for Charles/Wren. As the same flashback of Alisson behind the piano reveal about Cece turning up as "Jessica's in distress daughter at Radley" that would actually explain how Cece could have worn the bracelet in that moment because she was "dressed in Alissons clothes" and... She takes everything of for Bethany to find the bracelet. IN episode 5x05 - Scream for me - Emily and Spencer discover that "Aunt Jessie" -- Jessica DiLaurentis obviously took Bethany to the Horse Stables to go riding (because of guilt since she was banging her father) maybe trying to have a relationship with her. In the letter of Bethany to Alisson she is thanking her for the clothes, because "yellow is her color" hence why she got it (because it is confirmed in 5x13 christmas episode) that Alisson found two sets of the same clothes as a child and then having to lie about it. Why would she have to do that? That's right because she cannot know that her mother is having an affair. Alisson sended her the same top as hers, to maybe kill her? I think Bethanny knows that Jessica or "aunt jessie" is using sleeping pills, so she dresses as her own daughter, with the braclett from Cece (which Alisson would be responsible for by her own fault, dooming her inevitable capture) going to Jessica to drug her and maybe kill, incriminating that Alisson DiLaurentis would have killed her own mother. That is also confirmed by 5x12 when Mona is telling the liars that "Alisson lured Bethany to Rosewood and knew about the affair, she wanted her dead" - In a previous episode when Mona and Spencer are at Radley she is saying on the voice recording - "I wonder if I can trust anyone in that family, is it like mother like daughter" - She could've figure out what Alisson tried to do hence forth drugging and then killing Mrs. D on "that night" and thus incriminating Ali for the murder as revenge, by wearing her the top she sended her. That means that Alisson bought the top first for Bethany and sending it to her, before her mom bought the same top for her. (That would exonerate everything of the Cece is A storyline) thus making the Wren is Charles theory again, so much more plaussible and I think. The actual truth.
The Wren is A theory is far from unpopular imo, it was the biggest theory during air time! I was soooo invested in it and still can't believe it "wasn't" him
Also isn’t Sarah Harvey involved in this night too? She went missing around the same time bc cece kidnapped her which would make no sense since cece wasn’t A until she stole the game from mona in season 3. God the plot holes from this night are so big lmaooooo
@@sarahgolley4086 Yeah, I do think Sara's telling the truth when she talks about running away because she had a hard life and felt unloved by her mother, but she was definitely not underground for two years lol
Imagine someone interested in true crime who never watched pll sees this and thinks Alison Dilaurentis is an actual missing person
Im pretty sure they would go to internet and google would show well the show.
😂😂😂😂😂
Me😅 I looked at the thumbnail and thought to myself “hmmm that girl looks familiar” took me about 30 seconds to realize she was a character from a tv show
The aneurism they'd have when they found out Grundwald the psychic pulled Alison out the grave.
@@dragonslastfyl2203u would be surprised at the number of people who are incapable of simply using google
can we talk about the fact that like 10 people went through alison's backyard while two girls were buried in it in the span of like 30 minutes??
While the other four liars were in a drug induced coma in the barn, except for that brief period when Spencer woke up. I think.
frl ! if dat shit happened td , bitches would be caught b4 their victims body was een tossed innuh hole (pls dont murder ppl obvi 😭)
@@JNDReacts haha literally like nothing about this show makes any sense 😂
@@JNDReactsthis! Let’s also talk about how Ali drugged them, and (idk if any of them found out that it was her) if they had confronted her about that..l.she would’ve been arrested because it’s also to drug/spike someone’s drink without their knowledge or permission.
@@madisonbusby1457regardless, it’s fantastic
She was doing so much in one day and I struggle to do two major things without feeling tired and overwhelmed. Allison was so booked and busy
this is so true like i seriously would’ve needed at least a day of recovery after just traveling to hilton head but she just went straight to business, it’s insane. i NEED her work ethic.
@@kamrynn6382SAME 😭
@@kamrynn6382 SAME I flew between my state and NJ for like 2 hrs total and I was exhausted lol
Girl was a on full world tour that day
The night that Allison disappeared is so iconic it should be made an international holiday and we should wear the yellow top all day 💋
Maybe Alison's couple hours during "prior engagement" were when she took a nap, ate some food, combed her wigs, and just took a freaking break. Girl is busy!
Idk why picturing Alison dilaurentis’ sitting at her vanity combing those terrible wigs is so funny to me
@@NathaniaRayethose wigs 😭☠️
That was my thought lol like maybe she went to the frickin bathroom like Jesus has she had a second to breathe??
I love how when Ali lies about her age, Ezra is pissed. When Ari lies about her age Ezra dates and then marries her
He knew how young Aria was even though she lied. He was writing a book about them, remember?
well technically she doesn't lie about her age she says she's taking English lit as a class and he assumes she means in Hollis College and so he thinks she's older than she is but really she Isn't. Also we do find out that he knew her true age because of Ali and was wanting to write the novel about them. But that's kinda what I thought like how was he pissed at Ali for lying about her age but then he literally pursues an inappropriate relationship with his student.
@@kyrotv8156 Yeah and even then she doesn't really lie about her age she just says she's taking English lit and he says he's gonna be teaching it and so even if he didn't know which he did he just assumed she mean't at hollis and was a college student. But then when they talking about Ali's missing person poster he knows that she was one of Ali's friends and so he used her to write his book.
@@madisonbusby1457 I get what you’re all saying. I mean she was trying to seem older in that first meeting. I feel that omitting the truth in those situations is technically a lie when you’re trying to appear older and in college when you’re 16 in high school. But yes, you’re both right that at the end of the day he knew she was a teenage and dated her anyway. The entire thing is so messed up and so many levels.
he knew her age. he was writing a book about what happened to ali. he wasnt supposed to fall for her (in the show he was but ezra wasnt planning on falling for her)
ok but are we gonna acknowledge that “vivian darkbloom” is such a campy alias lol like if some lady showed up and gave me that name wearing that outfit i’d be like i need to see an ID immediately
Vivian Darkbloom Is alias that comes from book named Lolita and at one point Allison was seen reading Lolita (that's why she chose this alias) And also Vivian Darkbloom was an alias for the writer "Vladimir Nabokov" ironic how this show was mentioning Lolita so much while romanticizing relationships between teen character and those creepy men 🥴
If the writers had done their job right and had actually sat down and put in half of the effort you did for that video MAYBE the show and the timeline would have made sense and this video would have been easier to put together but I'm grateful for the amount of work that went into this, this is impressive!!
Thank you!!
lowkey want to create a murder dinner thingy for a group of people who haven't watched PLL out of this
Omg that would be so fun
i think even people who have seen the show will get tripped up because i didnt have the story straight until this video lol just change the names
i would low key join you this would be fun but i’ve seen pll but this would be mad fun bro
@@ilovemygirlfriend0706sameee bc even watching this video I still don’t remember what happened like 5 minutes ago In the plot 😭😂😂
Doing the lords work I see😩Allison and Mona are the MENACES OF THE CENTURY!! But it really is INSANE that these 16 year olds were out here blackmailing, blinding, and MURDERING each other😭
Thank you!! Yes literally, any inconvenience and they're like "well I guess it will have to be murder I don't see another option" 😂
Jenna too, being blind (sometimes) is not stopping her from being a galactic threat level menace
I remember when i first discovered and got into pll back when i was around 11/12 and being CONVINCED that I could be a ✨️mysterious✨️ ✨️powerful✨️ girlie like alison who knows everybody and keeps tabs like a bad bitch. This show's influence on our generation was something else.
What I wanna understand is how Alison planned her day to interact with every citizen of rosewood, flew back in state, when did she plan to drug the girls, and the fact that this all happens when she’s like 14 is insane to me
Shoutout Sasha Pieterse who was 12 when the pilot was recorded
Alison was actually 15
she was 15 when she went missing but you're right it's still insane how she pulled this off
35:34 I think Melissa was panicking, thinking Spencer killed Allison with the shovel, so she came barging in demanding to know if Allison was in there, hoping she was.
But then Melissa confesses she was the one that buried Bethany thinking Spencer killed her also - so like its also makes no sense because why would she have killed both
@@madisonbusby1457 She wasn't thinking "Spencer must have killed Bethany", she thought Spencer killed Alison and mistook Bethany's body for Alison's.
I think she was making an alibi. “Melissa didn’t know where she was”
Wouldn’t it make more sense that she came into Alison’s room first looking for her and then went outside trying to find her because she wasn’t in her room?
Alison saw more people on this one day than I did in the entire year of 2020
That might be true for most people lol
i’ve watched pll three times in full and this timeline still confuses me
I’m not the only one!!
omg same it’s frustrating
same except i’ve watched it now 12 times in full lmfao
The show doesn’t tell things in chronological order. That’s why you need to watch videos like this one that explains it in order
I also love that the grave at the point where Melissa finds Bethany is just a perfect rectangle as if Grunwwald just neatly dug Alison out instead of just roughly pulling her out the dirt
Omg yes!
Omg you're so right 😂
But they found Bethany in the back yard when they dig up the gazebos or whatever and I always thought Alison was buried in the front yard in the flower bed.
@@emilyradcliff783 same, the first and the second time I watched the show I thought Alison was buried there. In fact, there's a moment when one of the girls tells Ali her mother was buried in the same place she was, and her mother was buried in the front yard lol
@@emilyradcliff783 yeah Alison was buried in the front yard because she goes back the house at one point and her mum sees her get hit in the head by Cece through the window
I actually think Duncan did know Alison's real name because when he was talking with Aria he asks her what Vivian's real name was to prove she is a real friend of Alison's.
"And if you're her friend, you'll know her real name."
no matter how long it's been since pll has ended, whenever i see a video regarding it I WATCH. this was one of the good videos
What I want to know is how Mona had a car when she was supposed to be 15. Cuz when Aria comes back and meets Ezra she’s 16 and it’s the start of her junior year of high school, so the summer before they would’ve all been 15. I suppose it’s possible Mona had recently turned 16, but given her level of intelligence you think she would’ve tested into Kindergarten when she was 5 instead of having to wait until she turned 6 to start…
in my state you can get your learners permit when you turn 15 and can get your license at 15 and a half so idk what the driving laws are like in Pennsylvania but she could’ve been driving anyway by using her parents car or her own car that she drives anyway even though she doesn’t have a license
Usually Sophmores in high school are 15-16 and juniors are 16-17, so Mona is probably in the older age of students in the class
Iirc someone can be 15 in Pennsylvania when they get their license but I'm not sure.
the amount of teleportation that ali does in the span of this 24 hours is insane. and the only way i can justify the bracelet being with bethany is that ali lost it in the grave trying to dig herself out and the police just found it in there with bethany’s corpse. whether she’s wearing it or not i heavily question. and lol wilden is 50 💀
the retconning by the writers for this night is insane too
She couldn’t even drive who was driving her around 😭
@@Bunny-bk4uvI strongly believe Ali knew how to drive. Unless she had unlimited access to ubers and cabs she would have needed a car. Ali probably had one of her older bf's teacher her how to drive and she just had a fake I.D.
@@faycoleman9023 ye she's the one driving when she runs away (after spending the night w mona), and mona picks alison up in a car she's also driving that night. rosewood's clearly and incredibly-wealthy area, so i expect that it's pretty normal for most of the kids to be taught to drive from a younger age, so theyre ready to immediately begin the process of driving when they come of age
This is giving Mike’s mic recaps-not in a shady stealing way but in a great minds think alike way. Love 😌✨
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Mike paved the way for all the pll deep dive content that came after
What i never understood is the geography of rosewood. Where did ali's family live? how maya moved into ali's house on the street near emily, where jenna and toby also lived. They found ali's body there. But this whole night is at spencers barn. And ali's family moves nextdoor to spencer after she dissappears. But in the flashbacks they're also living there. But spencer is not near Emily at all
i always assumed the girls all lived in the same neighborhood just not on the same street bc any scene of them walking to each others house, it’s like a block over or down the road. ali and spencer were next door neighbors. ali’s house was right behind spencer’s house. maya lived in alis house and emilys mom sends her over with a gift basket to welcome her to the neighborhood so again i’m assuming they all live in the same zip code. emily and toby/jenna are next door neighbors and garret lived across from emily. they find alis body at alis house. the sleepover is held in spencer’s barn but ali is buried in her own backyard. ali’s family moves away when she disappears but since mayas family moves after sending her to rehab camp, jason buys the house back and lives in it and then the mom and dad eventually move back in too. mona also lives in the same neighborhood bc in the books she lives right across of spencer but the show doesn’t really touch on where mona lives in closeness to the other girls. but yeah they all live in the same neighborhood and ali and spencer lived next to each other and then emily and toby/jenna lived next to each other
In the books Toby and Emily are next door neighbors, Spencer and Ali are next door neighbors (living in a much richer side of town) and Hanna is on her own street. How far away they all are is still a mystery.
Ali and Spencer shared a yard. After she disappeared they rented their house to Maya's family. Then they moved back
The way I understood was let’s say block A is Hanna,Toby & Emily while block D(their houses are close to the woods rosewood plus those families are the richest ones.) is where Spencer & Ali live. The Block B & C is where Aria & Mona live. Block C is Aria because I remember Spencer saying “any siren at your house I can hear at my house” when aria was at Ezra’s
Spencer and Ali were always supposed to be neighbors. It was like that in the books and im somewhat sure it was mentioned at one point in the show (dont quote me on that, i cant remember so much of the show at times 😭). After Ali disappeared the Dilaurentis' moved out and rented the house out to Maya's family. Then her family moved out and Jason moved back in, eventually joined by the rest of the Dilaurentis'. I think the confusion comes from the fact that they changed the outdoor setting for Alis house at one point in the series. I could be totally wrong tho, I always get the timeline of events in this show mixed up 😭
I wanted an episode dedicated to this so bad, thanks for putting this together 🫡
901 (September 1st) was labor day weekend 2008. I think the writers had forgotten that Alison was missing for about a year before the show started so they used labor day of 2009. That's the only reason I can think of the wonky dates
Oh this makes so much more sense!
2 things from an american, in relation to around 20:00 :
1. how long it takes to go from georgia to south carolina depends on where you're going in each state. idk if in PLL it ever says specifically where in these states Alison was meant to be, but georgia and south carolina border each other, so technically it could be a five minute drive if you're going from the edge of georgia to the edge of south carolina. there's some towns that are even located in both states, split right down the middle :)
2. i know british people don't see it this way, but an hour and a half is NOT a long commute for us americans, lol. i know several people who have to drive an hour and a half every morning to get to work (which is incredibly depressing, but it puts into context how spending 1.5 hours traveling is no big deal to us. it's because everything is so far apart here.) i have to drive an hour to get into my nearest big city, and that's a short drive to me. if i'm driving into the city for a party i'm like "oh, it's only an hour drive!" so an hour and a half long plane ride wouldn't be a big deal, other than that they were in a small plane and you might need to refuel when you land.
This is so interesting!!
Alison did everything that night, her schedule was CRAZY but can we talk about how Marlene wrote Alison and Ian's story with him tapping a minor and we all were cool with it??
How much of this could have been avoided if people just checked whether or not the person they bonked/found bonked was still breathing
Or double checked who they were burying to cover for someone else
The fact alis mom started burying her right away without any doubt is crazy… HER OWN DAUGHTER💀
@@avafurgele7899 For real. 💀 I guess Jessica cared more about Charlotte than Alison? Because to her Charlotte was her other child and Alison was a headache maybe? Lol Even so, WILD!
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i was watching this video and when you mentioned that you were working on a video explaining the hastings/dilaurentis/drake family tree, i literally said, out loud, "hUh? girl- good luck, i could never". in all seriousness though- the amount of effort you put into these videos in INSANE and i love them
Thank you so much!!
It’s insane to think about how much stemmed from this day given how horrible the writers were with continuity 😂 like Sydney for example doesn’t come into the show until s4-s5 but she was behind the scenes for years before that
also shana, she was her grandma’s neighbor in georgia 😭 and on top of that it’s implied that she only got the NAT videos this day but had been using them as blackmail before. So had she seen them before? had she just heard ian or jason talk about them? was she in on Ian filming her/the girls for them?
@@bestmelikesshe prob knew about them but decided to weaponize them to get rid of A
She didn't know about the videos before, she just looked in Toby's window and totally misjudged what was happening.
Can we PLEASE stop and just R E A L I Z E how murderous the girls (but people in general, too) in Rosewood were?! I cannot even phantom that, but also the fact that even SPENCER wanted to swing at Alison??? Plus - what do you think Spencer was doing between her talking with Ali and then coming to the barn and telling the girls she heard a scream???
does hannah kill anyone? i know she was willing to kill lucas on the boat just can’t remember if she does off anyone through the tv series
@@trashsince99 she kills elliot and noel
@@Aleksandra-gw7vvWHEN
@@CoriBeth01well Elliot was an accident she was driving the car that hit and killed him and noel fell on that axe all on his own so i say she didn't do it
Ali said that after her and Spencer fought and found the drugs that she brought her back to barn.. she also said that when she left Spencer was sound asleep
Depending on what part of Georgia Alison’s grandma is, they could be right by Hilton Head. Savannah, GA has a bridge that goes over the Savannah River, which makes South Carolina and Hilton head like a 20 ish minute
38 miles apart
I was looking for this comment! I was like if her grandma lived in Savannah, Hilton head is not that far and Savannah is literally such a big city it’s probable she could live there!!!!!
I believe it was later stated that Melissa was calling Garrett when she says, “what do I have to do dial 911 to get your attention.” Because he was a cop.
9:47 confuses me. I thought Alison didn't check in at The Lost Woods resort as Vivian until after Mona found her on the road with blood trailing down the side of her head. Mona did say "I put the room under the name you told me to. Vivian Darkbloom." It was something like that.
33:41 was literally thinking “her makeup looks amazinngg today” and then you did the close up and I was like hell yeah girl, get iiittt!
SAME haha I was looking for this comment
Wish they did more detailed episodes on the flash back stories and the summer camp 😭🙌🏼
Yes me too!!!
This is one of the most impressive things I’ve seen anyone do. Your videos are so engaging.
Thank you so much!! 🩷
currently rewatching pll on the og dvd set & this is perfect timing to remember how insane this show was lmao thank you for this!
Heey, love your pll deepdives! And honestly, one of the things i love about the show is that after yearrss of watching rewatching it and recaps and going down rabbit holes, looking for answers and all that, i'm still finding out new stuff and have many things that i'm just connecting... mindblowing. and i love that there are other people just as obsessed as i am, thank you for that haha
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OMG you did amazing with every single detail. Yellow tops are hard to find lol.
I actually do have a yellow top, not an exact replica because mine is yellow with black dots but still love it. I also have a yellow swimsuit and yellow sleep shorts.
duudeee dat sounds so cute - yellow’s such a pretty color 💙
re everyone being in the dilaurentis house
i imagine jessica was going round the neighbourhood with wilden looking for cece
just a thought???
I think I would’ve liked if the show started with Allison dealing with A alone and then Allison is dead, us as viewers assume A killed her and then they go for the girls and the show carries on as it is. I always liked the flash backs of Ali before going missing
I need you and mikes mic to collaborate now because these whiteboards are giving me life
I’ve been waiting for someone to make a video focused solely on the day of her disappearance cause till this day I am so confused about it 💀
I feel like we should’ve gotten an entire episode (similar to the throwback to halloween before Ali’s disappearance ) that is just the events of that day, in order, and some extra fluff thrown in the fill in the gaps. Would’ve been great.
This video is so wonderful, cause I watched the shows from around the end of season 1 up until season 5 or so, as it aired, and I had forgotten SO many details as the years passed. Haven't seen seasons 6 or 7 either. But having you put all of the pieces together in place is so fun to watch. And now that I've decided to start the show from the beginning, it may help ensure I understand everything going on.
love your videos especially the PLL ones!
What a crazy night it was! Thank you for this video, I could never sort this out by myself
OMG! THIS IS TOO CRAZY!! I had this idea a few months ago and told my sister I wished the someone would go through the entire night she disappeared AND clip all the scenes together in chronological order so you could watch from start to finish !!!!
oh my god i am SO excited to watch this video!! thank you, lauren ❤
haha i love your description of hilton head as a golf club 😂😂 hilton head is actually an island, off the coast of south carolina. it’s like a whole city, but it’s mainly a town where people go on holiday. i think there are a few, or maybe a lot idk lol, of golf courses and country clubs there, and i’m sure that a lot of people do go there to golf. but it’s a really popular holiday destination for families bc there’s a lot of resorts and shopping and tourist stuff to do. there’s a lot of nice beaches and a lot of people get around the town on bikes that they rent. it’s really nice haha i have only been once but i live in cincinnati, ohio and i hear about people going to hilton head all the time lol but i’m also kind of obsessed with your description of hilton head bc it’s great haha anyway sorry for the novel but thought i’d comment for the algorithm and to tell you to put hilton head on your usa bucket list because you’d love it!! and i’m only five minutes into the video but i am a big fan so far lol
To be fair, the little pass on the lanyard says HILTON HEAD in huge letters so the resort name is easily missed 🤣
Ahh I’ve been hoping someone would piece this all together! Love it!
Thank you! ❤️
Please do all before alison disappeared! I LOVE YOUR PLL VIDS
an HOUR??? finally someone who gets me. instant sub.
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Would love to see a pre-disappearance video
Wasn't Ali 14 when she was with Ezra? Bc when Aria comes back she's 16, the year before then Ali went missing during summer, and it was the summer before that one Ali was with CeCe&Wilden&Jason wherever on that boat?
Ali disappeared at 15. I don't know how long she was seeing Ezra though
14-15. Ezra is a horrible person.
@@sarahgolley4086she wasn’t 15. When Aria comes back it’s the girls junior year. When Ali went missing it was before their freshman year. You have to remember that Aria was gone for a year
@@Jessica.ShawnteThe show has a lot of discrepancies because I’m watching PLL S3 right now and Paige said that Ali bullied her through freshmen year. But Ali went missing before freshmen year right? Aria returns before sophomore year starts and her body is found. I want to say that the girls were 16, so Ali went missing when she was 15🤷🏾♀️
@@Yazyyaunna seasons 1-3 is their junior year. Another way to tell is Aria & Mike are 2 years apart. He was a freshman when they came back because when Mona “died” they were seniors so Mike would have to be a sophomore. Another way to tell is the season after Mya dies starts in their last days of summer they became seniors
knowing that the series is based off of a book series and that the girls were 12 YEARS OLD when ali disappeared keeps me up at night
I'm guessing that the show changed that so that Alison could still be "queen bee of high school" before she disappeared.
Was she pregnant from Ian at 12
@ no she was never pregnant in the books and in the show she thought she was pregnant from wilden
@@shivamkamil1581 interestingly enough ali was never the queen bee nor did she know the girls. the ali that they knew and were friends with wasn’t ali
@@mustachemarshmallow8933 "still be" was a poor choice of words on my part, I meant "become".
This deserves way more views than it has
19:00 from what i remember she went to georgia to try to convince her grandma to take jason out of her will which is why there was a possible motive for jason to kill ali, also the flight from south carolina to pennsylvania in duncan’s plane probably would’ve been shorter than a regular airport flight
Mike's mic is having a fucking aneurysm rn
“…i don’t know if anyone would be interested in that…” me: returning for my 9th breakdown of this show, this week, to make it make sense…
how was this an hour long i feel like this was 10 minutes im gonna need more pll content
How is all of this happening in a summer night?? Winter maybe I could believe but apparently in Philadelphia sunrise is 5:30am and sunset is 8:30pm in summer??????
Yes please , please do the predisappearance video
I saw a new PLL video With Alison in the title and I DROPPED everything I was doing to watch this. Perfect video, thank you for your hard work! I'm sick and this is exactly what I needed today! 🥺💞💞 And I would also love to see a video of pre-disappearence Alison's life, it was quite eventful!
Thank you so much! I hope you feel better! I have added the pre-disappearance video to my to-do list ❤️
Phenomenal work, can’t wait for the Hastings/Dilaurentis/Drake family tree 🤯
How about this weekend? 🤫
Not enough people stringing that timeline together. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
thank u for your service omg
I’m just saying the writers really made their life more difficult with this day
It was a busy day
Bc the girlies needed this one 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Now I just need someone to do a video about the Never Ending November!
so so glad that this found its way into my recommended!!!!
Your eyeshadow slayed
Finally a definitive timeline
Didn’t Sara Harvey disappear around the same time Ali did? Like she worked with Cece but cece wasn’t A back then. I never understood that part.
Sara Harvey was a plot hole
So was Bethany Young 😬
I'm pretty sure she also made herself dissappear and CeCe used her to confuse people and change the plot
@@sarahgolley4086 I try to pretend that plot hole doesn't exist. Doesn't always work but a girl can dream 😁
Literally!!!! I just left a comment about it. I hated that they made her both red coat and black widow to this day. Like why would she agree to work with Cece?? She didnt even know the girls and what was she doing for more than 2 years??🙄🤦
Maybe Ali's first A was Jenna not Mona, and Sydney&Shana joined in when they heard about Ali blinding Jenna, but they were only in on the A texts at this point they weren't ride or die for Jenna yet which is why Jenna uses Ian to go confront/get revenge on Ali
You should do a video on Serena van der woodsen when she was in boarding school . I don’t know the time line for that either .
Omg that's such a good idea!
Omg this is soooooo COOL!!!!! I love PLL I’m so happy someone made a vid like this!!!!!!💖💖💖💖💖
i love this!! it makes it so much clearer for me, can’t wait for the next one i love all your pll videos🩷
Thank you so much!! 🩷
always important to be kind and respectful to people! especially when fixing or handling a mistake
This is the content I need to see when I first open RUclips 🎉🎉🎉
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i would so be interested in a before allisons disapeerance video!
I've put it on my to-do list!
PLL was the show that taught me that apparently in the US (at least in some states), children as young as like 15 are allowed to drive cars lol I remember being so confused and later looking it up on the internet
Melissa was looking for Spencer when she entered Ali's room
This makes nore sense
This work is truly impeccable 🎉
I can’t believe I watched pretty little liars for YEARS and never knew Alison disappeared on my birthday that’s crazy
You 🤝 mikes mic
I like to think Allison went home to confront her final suspect Jessica, but Charlotte shows up thinking it was Bethany before Allison confronted her.
And Mona/Melissa + Charlotte/Jessica essentially did strangers on a train without even realising it with Charlotte/Jessica nearly killing Allison and Mona/Melissa actually killing Bethany.
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS SO MUCH!!!
The fact that this whole video is about her disappearance is crazy, I think people actually forget how much of an impact her disappearance had on the story; not just in season one but throughout the series
Wilden is a vampire that’s the only was he makes sense
23:24 Okay when did she threaten to out Paige? if it was that same day that could've been what she was doing before dinner with her parents!
or maybe she went to see Ezra?
25:41 Apparently Jessica actually gave clothes to Bethany and even made her call her aunt Jessica also, Cece was also wearing the yellow top. So Jessica bought 3 sets of clothes. She loves when her girls match.
28:04 You forgot she also got into an argument with Spencer. Alison was booked and Busy. (Nevermind)
36:32 Maybe she went to look for Cece to bring her back to Radley?
the paige thing was way before this because she was in the car with cece when it happened
she threatened to out Paige in the flashback when she’s in Ceces car . it’s something with notes in town
perfection🤝🏻🧚🏼❤️
Okay so let me just start by saying. Damn, I couldn't do what you did. Big props! Second of all, I'm halfway through and I had some comments and thoughts. To start with one: I don't think Wilden is told everything about what Jessica did in the flashback, on that night. I think he just got paid for the fact that CeCe (someone he is seen with on the boat in a photo with both Ali and CeCe (so a friend?) escaped and that needs to be stricken from the record. That is why, he only knows one thing for sure at the beginning. Ali is dead, Cece (a friend who only comes in at season 3 is not available) but these girls are hiding something. I think, he thinks, they know what happened... And they're purposefully not telling it. That combined with his ego and narcism is the reason he tries to get it out of the liars, any means necessary.
My biggest theory is... A controversial one. I think Wren was supposed to be Big A, starting season 3. The biggest hints are in Season 4, the only episode Wren (Julian Morris) is in 4x10 "The Mirror Has Three Faces". Mona tells him that she killed Wilden because she realised that the Liars and her are on the same side of the problems. She confronts him about keeping secrets from him, "because she realised where his loyalties layed" -- I think she is talking about being shady together with Cece (since he knows that shit too about the red coat, since he draws them at the end of the episode) -- The next thing he does when he meets Hannah is call someone "to take care of the problem on their end, and he will do that too" -- I think it's Cece (hence he draws or colors the red coat at the end when he got what he wanted! The truth out about Mona not killing Wilden and making an illegal confession -- Wren goes to freaking Veronica Hastings and manipulates her into thinking Mona is dangerous for the girls and "hasn't forgiven them and wants to see them hurt" to get the truth out. -- IF EVERYTHING IS SWITCHED WAIT FOR IT -- Wren killed Wilden by the Lake with the gun shooting him twice (as the featurette "whodunnit" in season 7 suggest because Charlotte shot Wilden) -- That means he knows Mona is lying and tries to outsmart her and the liars.
Because... Here it comes. Jullian Morris (Wren Kingsley) was supposed to be revealed as Charles DiLaurentis. Wait here. Charles (is the son of Mary Drake along with Spencer) Spencer and Charles AKA Wren are both brown haired, just like their mother and his father would be Pastor Ted, a blonde haired guy! I believe Wren was the original choice but Julian wasn't availlable and that is why they chose ANDREW (yeah, that guy) as a back-up Charles. He got arrested around the same time before season 6 happened, which meant that he both couldn't star on the show anymore and it would hurt the image since it wasn't Freeform yet. And still ABC Family. And to top it off... If Wren is actually Charles, that means that everything in Season 6, the boy with the blonde hair *in the flashbacks as charles* needs to be removed. And in "Game Over, Charles" Bethany AND Charles can actually be old enough at the age of Toby's age of 15 because... Wren/Charles is older then Spencer! So when Toby was 15, Charles/Wren could actually be old enough to still be in Radley along with Bethany. Another fun thing... Just ignore the fact that he works at Radley later, because I think he would have some blackmail or something which would give him access to work there. Or... He really did got out at 18 and went to medical school becoming Wren Kingston. He is in EPISODE 1. ONE. And... That would make everything they TRIED to do connecting him to the fever dream of Alex Drake actually make freaking sense. Wren would figure it out, he does tell Cece that but not because she needs to know. Cece still meets Archer on the plane and I think Wren and Cece were the actual partners who tried to be A together, with Wren or Charles being the BIG A. Noel, Jenna, Sydney, Shana and everyone else were just onder their thumb and were only allowed to speak about it with Cece. Not knowing who was truly behind it all... The entire flashback of "that night" becomes soo clear, because then Cece CAN be talking to Melissa in the garden as Jason hallucinated and like what was said in the video. Was probably to be CANON. That would mean that Wren/Charles hit Bethany with a rock on her head, for trying to kill his mother or who he thinks his mother is, or aunt if knows that Mary Drake is his mother (as the file suggest in 6x20 that they find in the Radley Hotel). We all wanted it to be Wren (big a, i mean) and I think alot of the story beats where thought of since season 3 except for the whole Charles becoming Cece, actually being a girl and everything. And it is shown, because there was a lot of hatred from making a trans character the villain and I actually think, it wasn't the plan. This was. Because this would finally make this show work. Untill season 5 and a bit of season 6. We can all agree it was freaking random that Wren met Alex Drake in England, got into a relationship with her, ended up shooting her and got turned into a diamond. Because even then MARLENE said: "We wrote the scene for Wren to be killed by Alex, but we couldn't get him for the many days we needed" - So... Julian was shown to already be unavailable at much times, that is why they couldn't make him Big A, even though everything was leading up for it to be... Plus, If Alex Drake would have actually killed Big A (Charles) and they would be in a relationship together (as making season 7 canon in this theory) that would actually be the most insane plot point of it all. But it would make ALL THE SENSE Of THE WORLD. And to finish it all... I think that is the story Marlene told Keegan and Troian around season 5 as what has been revealed to be "the storytime of the entire ending of the show". That would also make the whole Alex Drake thing a little less convoluted, if Charles/Wren is his sister.
Another thing i found out the flashback of Jessica storming in at Alisson behind the piano telling her that "she got called that her daughter was in Radley a danger to herself" but it was actually Cece Drake, would also be cleared up this way. And that plot inconsistency and guess what freaking episode that flashback is also from... 4x10, again. That episode reveals the outline, I think what actually was supposed to happen after Ali turned out Alive, and... Told that ther mother burried her. Meaning it was Charles/Wren who burried Jessica at the end, since she was killed by her twin sister... I think after that he learns that Mary Drake is actually his mother. Thus being mad at her and him having met Archer Dunhill because of Cece being his Right Hand Girl. That would explain why Archer would try to work with Mary Drake and screw her over at the very last second, having revenge for Charles/Wren. Because Mary thinks she is trying to get revenge for Charles/Wren.
As the same flashback of Alisson behind the piano reveal about Cece turning up as "Jessica's in distress daughter at Radley" that would actually explain how Cece could have worn the bracelet in that moment because she was "dressed in Alissons clothes" and... She takes everything of for Bethany to find the bracelet. IN episode 5x05 - Scream for me - Emily and Spencer discover that "Aunt Jessie" -- Jessica DiLaurentis obviously took Bethany to the Horse Stables to go riding (because of guilt since she was banging her father) maybe trying to have a relationship with her. In the letter of Bethany to Alisson she is thanking her for the clothes, because "yellow is her color" hence why she got it (because it is confirmed in 5x13 christmas episode) that Alisson found two sets of the same clothes as a child and then having to lie about it. Why would she have to do that? That's right because she cannot know that her mother is having an affair. Alisson sended her the same top as hers, to maybe kill her? I think Bethanny knows that Jessica or "aunt jessie" is using sleeping pills, so she dresses as her own daughter, with the braclett from Cece (which Alisson would be responsible for by her own fault, dooming her inevitable capture) going to Jessica to drug her and maybe kill, incriminating that Alisson DiLaurentis would have killed her own mother. That is also confirmed by 5x12 when Mona is telling the liars that "Alisson lured Bethany to Rosewood and knew about the affair, she wanted her dead" - In a previous episode when Mona and Spencer are at Radley she is saying on the voice recording - "I wonder if I can trust anyone in that family, is it like mother like daughter" - She could've figure out what Alisson tried to do hence forth drugging and then killing Mrs. D on "that night" and thus incriminating Ali for the murder as revenge, by wearing her the top she sended her. That means that Alisson bought the top first for Bethany and sending it to her, before her mom bought the same top for her. (That would exonerate everything of the Cece is A storyline) thus making the Wren is Charles theory again, so much more plaussible and I think. The actual truth.
The Wren is A theory is far from unpopular imo, it was the biggest theory during air time! I was soooo invested in it and still can't believe it "wasn't" him
Your timeline is off with Brandon Jones (Andrew). He was arrested in 2017 which was after season 6.
I feel like I’m going to love this video
I appreciate the effort !!
Also isn’t Sarah Harvey involved in this night too? She went missing around the same time bc cece kidnapped her which would make no sense since cece wasn’t A until she stole the game from mona in season 3. God the plot holes from this night are so big lmaooooo
I think it's safe to assume Sara lied about when she met CeCe. We already know she lied about being in the bunker for two years.
I think Sara disappeared herself for home life reasons (also remember her friends didn't like her) and somewhere along the way was picked up by cece
@@sarahgolley4086 Yeah, I do think Sara's telling the truth when she talks about running away because she had a hard life and felt unloved by her mother, but she was definitely not underground for two years lol
This video is so iconic u don’t even understand
love u for this, okay? okay ♡
This show is so unhinged
Clicked for the subject, stayed for the 2002 high school printer quality photos and the random board attacks 😂❤🎉
The amount of people she saw that Labor Day Weekend, girl was booked, busy and blackmailing everybody, drugging her BFFs and still got played by Mona
I'm so happy to have some new pll content