For the first like 2-3 Months, people completely ignored the St.Vincent, majorly for its weak armour, I immediately unlocked it and fell in love with the accuracy, The speed that makes light cruisers think they have the hand brake engaged. But then people played it in the tournament and suddenly people woke up to the Broken mess that is the St.Vincent. also, 65% firechance XD
ok guys, lets design a bb Pros: Really good conseal high top speed insane acceleration small superstructure Really good torps overmatch really good ap really good he really good dispersion short fuse ap nearly impossible to citadel super heal dfaa speed boost Cons: 25mm bow no hydro? lol
@@gothia1715 , because people don’t know how to play battlecruiser. It is really good ship, but it is very similar to Incomparable and not many have and play Incomparable.
i love to use my vincent as a flank machine, go stealth, hit speed boost, it can outrun some of the gun dds in a straight line and just announce urself with a fat broadside salvo on a side that enemy saw nothing at just a minute ago
St. Vincent has to be one of favorite ships in the game, its such a monster. The AP slaps hard, the HE is cracked, and the guns are just overall consistent and accurate. Paired with the speed, conceal, and all the other shit she has going for her The one thing I wish they would change is make her more vulnerable broadside, not like hawke or duncan levels, but she has a water line cit with a turtleback and spaced armor, maybe just having it waterline like monty and ohio would be better, still has a fuck ton of things going for her, but at least then she’d be easier to punish.
@@Axel23410 sure the HE could be nerfed bringing down the firechance, and the conceal could probably go to a flat 13km Not really sure touching other aspects of the ship would be beneficial, the big 3 problems with it imho is its hard to punish, the HE is a bit much, and shes dummy stealthy The guns should stay consistent, Thunderer guns are still overall more consistent, gotta remember Vincent only has 1.6 sigma to thunderers 1.9, while yes the BC dispersion definitely carriers it, theres also a fair amount of times where the sigma is felt. If the guns become inconsistent it just wouldnt be enjoyable to play Her external armor is still pretty bad, massive 25mm bow and stern, 32mm sides, 40mm deck, shes still overmatched by nearly all bbs on the extremities, and she gets bursted down very easily by sustained DPM Torps are very situational and wouldnt be worth touching. Ig the reload could go to 50secs, but why? To what end? Remove the improved acceleration? I guess, but again, to what end? Thats not what breaks the ship imo, especially if the big 3 problems with her get nerfed. The actual engine boost is fine, only is 8% and only lasts for 2 1/2 minutes with the mod, again its not what breaks the ship. The super heal is pretty fucking nice ngl, but if shes easier to citadel then it should be fine to stay. It should be a strong ship, but it shouldnt be OP, and nerfing the internal armor, the HE, and maybe the conceal too would likely be enough, thats really what pushes her over the edge
@@caa4118 St Vincent just increased the busted bar like it was with some CV's and then Nakimov came and blew the competition away with the ability to hit 25k with rocket planes The fact that we got a look at the Super Petro doesn;t help because the guns are almost on Slava level of pen
@@kyleuptergrove4040 so won’t matter when you can still citadel bb’s from across the map and the reload isn’t even bad so dispersion can be as bad as it wants won’t make up for the fact that the guns will be completely busted
People screaming bloody murder about Thunderer. Now there's this, with a superheal, torps and better speed + speedboost. And everyone is fine. Group think is real thing in the WoWs community.
As cruiser main, i don't really like playing BB or BC due to their DPM but this thing is nuts. Play it like Marseille or even DM (depend on maps) but with overmatch & superheal that allow you to push into stupid position, its easy to score 200k+ dmg. No wonder i hate fighting against it in any cruiser.
Oh the Vincent ..... what a glorious "little" BB ! It's all the Conquek wasn't ... Also the little brother the Duncan is very - very good - she rips in Ranked ....
Imo this ship should have no bigger guns than 419s. It already has so much going for it. Outpacing cruisers, superheal and british HE is broken enough. It really doesnt need that 30mm overmatch on top. And ffs WG, it needs a raised citadel already. We had the same bs with Conqueror before.
7:38 - so let me get this straight. You allowed a full flood to tick in case... you could eat a torp and would have to eat a full flood? Am I understanding your logic here? You allowed the worst-case scenario to happen up front for free no matter what instead of "if a torp hits me again"? Average content creator reasoning? Or UK ship brainrot?
"insanely accurate". hu.. no.. insanely accurate would be thunderer.. St Vincent's feel worse than Montana's to be honest. AP and HE are still devastating.
What does the conqueror do that this doesn’t? Honestly it seems to me like there’s literally no reason to touch conq since they added this into the game. I don’t understand why they gave this the same he performance as the other line… sure, conq has more guns but they’re lower calibre and the dispersion is god awful compare to this, so you’ll probably hit similar numbers of shells.
For the first like 2-3 Months, people completely ignored the St.Vincent, majorly for its weak armour, I immediately unlocked it and fell in love with the accuracy, The speed that makes light cruisers think they have the hand brake engaged. But then people played it in the tournament and suddenly people woke up to the Broken mess that is the St.Vincent. also, 65% firechance XD
Just more broken shit that we all know needs to be nerfed. Weegee never ended up nerfing it because everyone is a 45%er now.
I think it is actually better than Thunderer and Conquerer.
@AAMech the crazy speed and overmatch are a combo neither of them get, while still getting the superheal
Stank Vincent is a great boat. Thanks for the great video!
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ok guys, lets design a bb
Pros:
Really good conseal
high top speed
insane acceleration
small superstructure
Really good torps
overmatch
really good ap
really good he
really good dispersion
short fuse ap
nearly impossible to citadel
super heal
dfaa
speed boost
Cons:
25mm bow
no hydro? lol
This. I dont get it why this broken thing hasnt been hit by multiple nerfhammers already.
@@gothia1715 , because people don’t know how to play battlecruiser. It is really good ship, but it is very similar to Incomparable and not many have and play Incomparable.
i love to use my vincent as a flank machine, go stealth, hit speed boost, it can outrun some of the gun dds in a straight line and just announce urself with a fat broadside salvo on a side that enemy saw nothing at just a minute ago
another con is that it looks horrible
And then they named it Thunderer....
This video has a such a crisp picture. Great ship, i am still at Duncan and this makes me very happy :D
As a Vincent, although by no means a Saint, I deeply approve of Royal Navy naming conventions
St. Vincent has to be one of favorite ships in the game, its such a monster.
The AP slaps hard, the HE is cracked, and the guns are just overall consistent and accurate.
Paired with the speed, conceal, and all the other shit she has going for her
The one thing I wish they would change is make her more vulnerable broadside, not like hawke or duncan levels, but she has a water line cit with a turtleback and spaced armor, maybe just having it waterline like monty and ohio would be better, still has a fuck ton of things going for her, but at least then she’d be easier to punish.
They need to change way more than just the citadel. Imo this ship is more broken than Thunderer.
@@Axel23410 sure the HE could be nerfed bringing down the firechance, and the conceal could probably go to a flat 13km
Not really sure touching other aspects of the ship would be beneficial, the big 3 problems with it imho is its hard to punish, the HE is a bit much, and shes dummy stealthy
The guns should stay consistent, Thunderer guns are still overall more consistent, gotta remember Vincent only has 1.6 sigma to thunderers 1.9, while yes the BC dispersion definitely carriers it, theres also a fair amount of times where the sigma is felt. If the guns become inconsistent it just wouldnt be enjoyable to play
Her external armor is still pretty bad, massive 25mm bow and stern, 32mm sides, 40mm deck, shes still overmatched by nearly all bbs on the extremities, and she gets bursted down very easily by sustained DPM
Torps are very situational and wouldnt be worth touching. Ig the reload could go to 50secs, but why? To what end?
Remove the improved acceleration? I guess, but again, to what end? Thats not what breaks the ship imo, especially if the big 3 problems with her get nerfed.
The actual engine boost is fine, only is 8% and only lasts for 2 1/2 minutes with the mod, again its not what breaks the ship.
The super heal is pretty fucking nice ngl, but if shes easier to citadel then it should be fine to stay.
It should be a strong ship, but it shouldnt be OP, and nerfing the internal armor, the HE, and maybe the conceal too would likely be enough, thats really what pushes her over the edge
The speed boost made me LOL. Low dispersion is very nice too.
I need to play this ship way more. I grinded up to it and then moved on to another branch. Great ship.
This ship to me is one of the best in recent years to come out. Only based on observation, I stopped playing at the cv rework
That was one hell of a prediction on that Hinde. You had him pigged.....
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Thats the moment when all the plans for that match we're Destroyed by a Destroyer... The irony...
This ship has my highest average per game damage at almost 140k, all my others are 110k or 105k
And here we thought that Thunderer was busted...but then along came St Vincent
Thunderer is still busted
@@caa4118 St Vincent just increased the busted bar like it was with some CV's and then Nakimov came and blew the competition away with the ability to hit 25k with rocket planes
The fact that we got a look at the Super Petro doesn;t help because the guns are almost on Slava level of pen
@@MrTrool323 Super Petro will have shit ass dispersion though
@@kyleuptergrove4040 so won’t matter when you can still citadel bb’s from across the map and the reload isn’t even bad so dispersion can be as bad as it wants won’t make up for the fact that the guns will be completely busted
@@justatroll777 I mean your right but Petro can’t even hit a kremlin out past 16 km it just brackets around it
People screaming bloody murder about Thunderer. Now there's this, with a superheal, torps and better speed + speedboost. And everyone is fine. Group think is real thing in the WoWs community.
I think it’s because 1: the meta has changed. 2: The Vincent isn’t just a backline HE spammer like Thunderer is
It has to push because it is not that long range, that is why not all like St. Vincent.
One Take : U-2501, Balao and Thrasher after One Take Yodo
As cruiser main, i don't really like playing BB or BC due to their DPM but this thing is nuts. Play it like Marseille or even DM (depend on maps) but with overmatch & superheal that allow you to push into stupid position, its easy to score 200k+ dmg. No wonder i hate fighting against it in any cruiser.
Vincent is probably my favorite battleship in the game, though Vermont and now Mecklenburg are making some really strong arguments
Thanks for the video!
She's my top performer along with Schlieffen
Oh the Vincent ..... what a glorious "little" BB ! It's all the Conquek wasn't ... Also the little brother the Duncan is very - very good - she rips in Ranked ....
An Ape takes a Yamagiri and goes into a match...
Currently on the Duncan grinding for this ship
Wow I never even realized you were in my match I was the stalingrad in the first match. Tbh I didn't even remember there even being a st v
Imo this ship should have no bigger guns than 419s. It already has so much going for it. Outpacing cruisers, superheal and british HE is broken enough. It really doesnt need that 30mm overmatch on top.
And ffs WG, it needs a raised citadel already. We had the same bs with Conqueror before.
It has to be OP to compensate for being so damn ugly...
So this is just another thunderer, right?
Nope.
No lmao.
Yea st Vincent is really strong, i have 160k avg damage on it
How was 6k damage a dev strike??
That salvo killed a DD, and dev strikes are based on percentage of HP, rather than just raw salvo damage
Np ship should have 65% fire chance each shell for 9 shells.
i have TOP2 dmg EU record 405k with Vincent :D its beast
11 overpens with it broadside to my littorio. What a weird ships. Super hideous too.
Cool kids don’t use spotters.
36+ knots? For a battleship? She's got a nuclear reactor in there that we don't know about?
she can go 41 kts in straight line with brisk, speed boost on and speed flag her acceleration is pretty good too! bonkers ship
It's basically an improved Thunderer. You get an extra gun (same gun as Thunderer), slightly better accuracy, faster, super heal & torpedoes
Considering cvs and subs are in the game it not op at all, im gonna be really upset if they nerf this thing into the ground while im grinding the line
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Try a secondary build on it, its awesome
GG
Honestly when i use this ship I feel like I'm cheating. I think its my second highest wr t10 near 70% or something, it just has too many tools
It's clearly overpowered, so it's not surprising that people feel like that.
7:38 - so let me get this straight. You allowed a full flood to tick in case... you could eat a torp and would have to eat a full flood? Am I understanding your logic here? You allowed the worst-case scenario to happen up front for free no matter what instead of "if a torp hits me again"?
Average content creator reasoning? Or UK ship brainrot?
It's refreshing to see a British bb that's actually accurate with ap and not just another he spamming bb
Too bad they still gave her r*tarded HE. She would have been way less busted without it
Boy, may I tell you about 457mm UK HE with 63% fire chance? A lot of people play her like that.
I really don't see the fuss. Free xp past duncan for this and its way less consistent than the tier 8 for me.
"insanely accurate". hu.. no.. insanely accurate would be thunderer..
St Vincent's feel worse than Montana's to be honest.
AP and HE are still devastating.
I run my St. Vincent with secondaries. O_O
Its better if you Spam HE
or, you use AP to actually be more useful than a HE spamming Vincent
Its best if you use the appropriate ammo for the situation..🤷♂️
PQ is stuck in his ways. No love for most new things.
@@AzureAlliance31he can back it up with his stats. Most people who give advice have worse stats which is kinda funny
It's the best if you know when to use the appropriate shell type
this shit needs to be nerfed
Very good vids and super ideas of content but ur laugh is sometimes cringe
What does the conqueror do that this doesn’t? Honestly it seems to me like there’s literally no reason to touch conq since they added this into the game.
I don’t understand why they gave this the same he performance as the other line… sure, conq has more guns but they’re lower calibre and the dispersion is god awful compare to this, so you’ll probably hit similar numbers of shells.
You hit far less with conq
Duncan even already has the 419s and actually can hit...
Seriously it's so bad with the old line
conqueror has lower fire chance and is much slower, higher sitting, bigger SS
Conqueror is a better tank. It has the most efficient heal in the game. Its almost unkillable.