I understand Scripture because I have read the Scriptures front-to-back about 30 times, depending on the Lord. I had a friend who had to have a Doctorate he felt to be a pastor, but was not required to read thru the Scripture.
Besides seminary being unaffordable for many of us... i recently tried attending an online undergraduate class at Reformed Bible College but had to turn it down. No financial aid, and it was to much for me at the time. Great insight
I have not been able to find the idea of a head pastor anywhere in the New Testament. Paul the Apostle appointed only teams of elders. No head pastors.
Listening to this guy makes me feel sorry for all those house churches in places like China who are leading people to Christ with no seminary training or in-depth understanding of theological issues of importance like PREDESTINATION (which is mostly Calvinist teachings). Sad to think how they must all be lesser Christians in this guys view because they are being Pastored by someone who only has the Holy Spirit and not a Masters degree in Reform religion. 😞
Men don’t need to go to seminary to pastor any church at all. The Spirit guides and leads and awakens one. The Spirit is the one that gives understanding and knowledge in how to interpret the Holy Scriptures. None of the Apostles went to any seminar.
The Apostles didn't go to seminary because they were ordained by God to proclaim the gospel and to complete the scriptures. There are no God ordained apostles anymore because the canon of scripture is complete. We need seminaries because they are God-given institutions to exercise men to be leaders in the faith. Saying the Holy Spirit guides and leads and gives understanding and so it's okay to not go to seminary is essentially saying any believer can pastor a house church. Do you want to be led by any believer at all who claims to have the Holy Spirit? Only trained preachers should pastor any kind of church because there are so many things that are important to guarding the faith of a Christian than just "how to interpret the Holy Scriptures".
Paul was educated had to be thrown off "his high horse" being Narstic (opposite of humility) Phycology doctrine or man ( form of Godliness denying the POWER of GOD - "self esteem" ( is pride ) lots of pastors are narstic. But so was a house leader. No respect even for elder. 5 fold minister and there is a position of " EVANGELIST" is a mentorship ( Eljiaha mentored Elishia) so called Shepard ( the sheep are HIS sheep. Pastors are " hirelings" Iron sharpens iron. Not all Evangilist are TV celebrities. But pastors do NOT want to be sharpened by the EVANGELIST ( so where are the Evangelist - pushed out the door. Not supported pastors travel around on paid conference ( holiday on Caribean cruises / tour of Rome/ Israel etc ) but cry about NOT getting paid enough. Often interupt when some one is actually "evangelism" ( now is not the time to discuss theology ) Yet seldom actually hear/ see pastors ( like most other believers doing very little evangelism. 1 403 830 4124 solar ecipse April 8 ( likely true Passover date) formed a Capital "A" Igobod has been written. Peter was got out of the boat (ARK - it's sinking) Peter got "dunked" ( baptised again NOT just once ) So WALK ( get out of the boat / repent go to the Truth and be baptised again ots example to others even as JESUS is HS POWER decended so WALK in the LIGHT ( progresively come out from them / Romanism - includes pagan Xmas and pagan easter Friday/Sunday rather than Hebrew rest day (Sabbath) Zeck 14:21 NO more Canaanite ( KJV ) egyption/ romanism. Lazuruis reserectred 4th day so much for Ordox Jew ( Canaanite/ Egyptian theology this Romanism too - o called spirit "hovers for 3 days" NO they are "asleep" HE the RESERECTION and the LIFE said choose "LIFE" or "death" ( But Rimanism has twisted ref to ref to Heaven' or Hell" eternal torment. NO Alaha is the false god of the dead . 1 403 830 4124 ok back to issue about house church. Is it lead by "HIS WRITTEN WORD" or doctrines of demons and traditions of man? That is the isse NOT house or big building.
Largely in the scriptures we see men getting trained in the Local church however there might be a couple of exceptions. The 'entrusting to faithful men' that Paul exorts Timothy with is church elders entrusting the oracles of God to these other men in the context of the church. Your church should be like a little seminary for those who are called. Considering its the Lord who teachers the soul, the scripitures don't assume the need to go outside the church for training. But i do understand there may be some benefits for a man to formally attend a seminary but i also understand that this may be the position of a group that has a seminary to promote. Also brothers how are the men planting after seminary if its not in a pleurality context? My church was planted with 2 elders and 1 got sick and had to stand down and the other elder really desires to not be on his own and that the Lord would call another man. I say this in respectful terms. 🙏
Could be in a garage (take vehicles out push tool to the side/ covrr with a tarp or boat as we know the disciples had done. But NO need something fancy to put "online" its just a big fsncy show. One guru doesnt show the "multi- coulured garp at the location
I love it... MDiv programs are training students to be scholars. With preaching at house churches and for shepherding, there is less of a need for that scholarly level of training. Amen. Reformation Seminary is like 1/2 of a Masters Degree and there are three in-person intensives. Graduates are men who are already prequalified to be elders and likely to be lifelong learners. Amen. After all, the Apostles were supposed to make disciples [matheteuo] not converts. All believers are to be lifelong learners [mathetes] of Jesus, His leadership style, His example of service, and doers of good works, sharers of God's love, and worshipers of the Lord Jesus Christ. Hallelujah!
Pharisee school, aka seminary, is more of a detriment than anything else. I will forever be leary of any member of the body who speaks of pharisee school as anything other than a detriment.
I respectfully disagree with your point. The qualifications for ministry are clearly outlined in Scripture, and no amount of seminary training can replace the character and qualifications that God requires. It’s important to stay true to what the Bible teaches rather than adding to God’s Word. I find it difficult to continue watching your video because it seems to deviate from this essential truth.
The position of responsibility is a gift and is a calling by God. God provides the gift and calling, so no college degree is required, it is a gift. So, if you have to attend a college, you are developing a talent, establishing a career, not having the God given gift. You are learning a specific denominational doctrine, not The Doctrine of Jesus. Sorry Charlie.
Best not. God allows no one to be an elder as soon as they’re saved. In my case God taught me for eight years after I was saved before we led a house church subservient to Holy Spirit. As well I spent forty eight years learning scripture in church unsaved. I never went to seminary but am well versed in scripture and well versed in walking beside, gently guiding people which was learnt in the ‘market place.’
You're not rightly dividing the word of truth. You mentioned Paul but not the revelation of the mystery given to him by Jesus, the gospel of grace. Nowhere in the new testament are we commanded to build alters or church buildings. Some books in the new testament are describing what happened in the old testament under the law. Acts is a transitional book going from law to grace. Never mix law with grace or you will have neither. Jesus never founded a state run religion. Beware of ecumenicalism
Men love their titles
I understand Scripture because I have read the Scriptures front-to-back about 30 times, depending on the Lord. I had a friend who had to have a Doctorate he felt to be a pastor, but was not required to read thru the Scripture.
Besides seminary being unaffordable for many of us... i recently tried attending an online undergraduate class at Reformed Bible College but had to turn it down. No financial aid, and it was to much for me at the time. Great insight
I have not been able to find the idea of a head pastor anywhere in the New Testament. Paul the Apostle appointed only teams of elders. No head pastors.
Listening to this guy makes me feel sorry for all those house churches in places like China who are leading people to Christ with no seminary training or in-depth understanding of theological issues of importance like PREDESTINATION (which is mostly Calvinist teachings). Sad to think how they must all be lesser Christians in this guys view because they are being Pastored by someone who only has the Holy Spirit and not a Masters degree in Reform religion. 😞
Well said! Pride eh…
Men don’t need to go to seminary to pastor any church at all. The Spirit guides and leads and awakens one. The Spirit is the one that gives understanding and knowledge in how to interpret the Holy Scriptures. None of the Apostles went to any seminar.
The Apostles didn't go to seminary because they were ordained by God to proclaim the gospel and to complete the scriptures. There are no God ordained apostles anymore because the canon of scripture is complete. We need seminaries because they are God-given institutions to exercise men to be leaders in the faith. Saying the Holy Spirit guides and leads and gives understanding and so it's okay to not go to seminary is essentially saying any believer can pastor a house church. Do you want to be led by any believer at all who claims to have the Holy Spirit?
Only trained preachers should pastor any kind of church because there are so many things that are important to guarding the faith of a Christian than just "how to interpret the Holy Scriptures".
Trained by who? By HS or by man ?
Paul was educated had to be thrown off "his high horse" being Narstic (opposite of humility) Phycology doctrine or man ( form of Godliness denying the POWER of GOD - "self esteem" ( is pride ) lots of pastors are narstic. But so was a house leader. No respect even for elder. 5 fold minister and there is a position of " EVANGELIST" is a mentorship ( Eljiaha mentored Elishia) so called Shepard ( the sheep are HIS sheep. Pastors are " hirelings" Iron sharpens iron. Not all Evangilist are TV celebrities. But pastors do NOT want to be sharpened by the EVANGELIST ( so where are the Evangelist - pushed out the door. Not supported pastors travel around on paid conference ( holiday on Caribean cruises / tour of Rome/ Israel etc ) but cry about NOT getting paid enough. Often interupt when some one is actually "evangelism" ( now is not the time to discuss theology ) Yet seldom actually hear/ see pastors ( like most other believers doing very little evangelism. 1 403 830 4124 solar ecipse April 8 ( likely true Passover date) formed a Capital "A" Igobod has been written. Peter was got out of the boat (ARK - it's sinking) Peter got "dunked" ( baptised again NOT just once ) So WALK ( get out of the boat / repent go to the Truth and be baptised again ots example to others even as JESUS is HS POWER decended so WALK in the LIGHT ( progresively come out from them / Romanism - includes pagan Xmas and pagan easter Friday/Sunday rather than Hebrew rest day (Sabbath) Zeck 14:21 NO more Canaanite ( KJV ) egyption/ romanism. Lazuruis reserectred 4th day so much for Ordox Jew ( Canaanite/ Egyptian theology this Romanism too - o called spirit "hovers for 3 days" NO they are "asleep" HE the RESERECTION and the LIFE said choose "LIFE" or "death" ( But Rimanism has twisted ref to ref to Heaven' or Hell" eternal torment. NO Alaha is the false god of the dead . 1 403 830 4124 ok back to issue about house church. Is it lead by "HIS WRITTEN WORD" or doctrines of demons and traditions of man? That is the isse NOT house or big building.
@@AlanWolf-d7l ninja, nobody is reading allat.
@@AlanWolf-d7l HS, when he was trained by man he was persecuting the church.
What seminary did Peter and John go to?
Largely in the scriptures we see men getting trained in the Local church however there might be a couple of exceptions. The 'entrusting to faithful men' that Paul exorts Timothy with is church elders entrusting the oracles of God to these other men in the context of the church. Your church should be like a little seminary for those who are called. Considering its the Lord who teachers the soul, the scripitures don't assume the need to go outside the church for training. But i do understand there may be some benefits for a man to formally attend a seminary but i also understand that this may be the position of a group that has a seminary to promote. Also brothers how are the men planting after seminary if its not in a pleurality context? My church was planted with 2 elders and 1 got sick and had to stand down and the other elder really desires to not be on his own and that the Lord would call another man. I say this in respectful terms. 🙏
What seminary did Peter or John go to?
Could be in a garage (take vehicles out push tool to the side/ covrr with a tarp or boat as we know the disciples had done. But NO need something fancy to put "online" its just a big fsncy show. One guru doesnt show the "multi- coulured garp at the location
Seminary Promotion?
Doesnt say anything aboit semonary in Titus or Timothy
Do you need to be a Calvinist for this schooling?
No
Most seminaries are apostate
I love it... MDiv programs are training students to be scholars. With preaching at house churches and for shepherding, there is less of a need for that scholarly level of training. Amen.
Reformation Seminary is like 1/2 of a Masters Degree and there are three in-person intensives. Graduates are men who are already prequalified to be elders and likely to be lifelong learners. Amen.
After all, the Apostles were supposed to make disciples [matheteuo] not converts. All believers are to be lifelong learners [mathetes] of Jesus, His leadership style, His example of service, and doers of good works, sharers of God's love, and worshipers of the Lord Jesus Christ. Hallelujah!
Pharisee school, aka seminary, is more of a detriment than anything else. I will forever be leary of any member of the body who speaks of pharisee school as anything other than a detriment.
No one in the Bible had the title of Pastor of a church. So the answer is no.
I respectfully disagree with your point. The qualifications for ministry are clearly outlined in Scripture, and no amount of seminary training can replace the character and qualifications that God requires. It’s important to stay true to what the Bible teaches rather than adding to God’s Word. I find it difficult to continue watching your video because it seems to deviate from this essential truth.
The position of responsibility is a gift and is a calling by God. God provides the gift and calling, so no college degree is required, it is a gift. So, if you have to attend a college, you are developing a talent, establishing a career, not having the God given gift. You are learning a specific denominational doctrine, not The Doctrine of Jesus.
Sorry Charlie.
Best not. God allows no one to be an elder as soon as they’re saved. In my case God taught me for eight years after I was saved before we led a house church subservient to Holy Spirit. As well I spent forty eight years learning scripture in church unsaved.
I never went to seminary but am well versed in scripture and well versed in walking beside, gently guiding people which was learnt in the ‘market place.’
You're not rightly dividing the word of truth. You mentioned Paul but not the revelation of the mystery given to him by Jesus, the gospel of grace. Nowhere in the new testament are we commanded to build alters or church buildings. Some books in the new testament are describing what happened in the old testament under the law. Acts is a transitional book going from law to grace. Never mix law with grace or you will have neither. Jesus never founded a state run religion. Beware of ecumenicalism
No need for the teaching of the Holy Spirit. You can't enter-twine the Holy Spirit with traditions of men.
Seminary is where they false teach