Fate/Extella Link (REVIEW) - Warriors Dojo
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Fate/Extella Link is a remarkable game that has pushed Warriors gameplay further than even Koei-Tecmo. If this game hasn't been on your radar, it definitely should be. Find out why in this review!
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PW3 is my favourite warriors game of all time with it's dodge offset, wide cast of characters and it's abundance of combos with triangle route as well as square.
However your review has me excited that something might get close to scratching that same amazing musou itch seems like most of my gripes with umbral star were fixed I might actually give this a chance now thanks a lot for the detailed review.
Pw4 is way better, but I really wanna play this game. It looks so CV k and I just got into fate, wish there was more stay might characters
@@stevecalvert6047 played through both but I gotta say I prefer PW3. PW4 somehow managed to shrink the depth of combat which got replaced by a bunch of bloated new mechanics that just grow tedious overtime.
As a long term Fate and Warriors fan, I can safely say that I can agree with everything you said.
Fate/Extella had a phenomenal story, but unpolished gameplay from it being their first attempt. It was good, but with need for improvement.
Fate/Extella Link has a really weak, even forgettable story, but the gameplay was outright perfect for me. Every character was so much fun to play with and the active skills gave yourself the option of customization.
I love both for their strong points, but if I am playing through one of these again, I'd always play through Link. My hopes for the next Extella is for them to merge the best parts: The great way of telling an engaging story from the first and the near perfect gameplay of the second. And those who know Fate and Fate Grand Order know that there are a huge mass Servants available for candiates as new warriors: Atalanta, Caenis, Leonidas, Sasaki Kojiro, Miyamoto Musashi, Mordred, Enkidu. The candidates have increased massively over the years.
If the cards are played right, the third game could become a new standard, offering a compelling story, a huge roster and great gameplay.
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One other thing that got improved from the original is the map design. Maps are just prettier to look at.
Just got this on sale yesterday on the Switch. Great to see I made the right choice between the 2.
Its better to play the 1st one and then this one to got better understanding of the story
@@Oggre No offense but I don't have time to play the multiple Warriors games I already have (one coming November btw) much less two similar games of the same series, to completion. The story I could care less about. I know some of the characters already and love being able to play *as* them and the others that idk still look amazing too. To me this game is much more, gameplay matters first.
I just bought both today in sale, can't wait to go back home and play
One thing I wish you touched on more is how this game streamlines the Musou formula compared to KT's own work. Gameplay-wise, I really like how almost all traversible territory is controlled by either you or the enemy, with the paths between them being those pneumatic tube chute things. It really cuts down on empty, boring space. I like how enemies just spawn infinitely in enemy territories, instead of coming from specific entrance points in periodic bursts. This combined with the fact that all territories have guardians you can avoid taking out to rack up more KOs makes it really easy to get scores into the tens of thousands, it's rad!
Outside of the main gameplay has been streamlined, too. It's much easier to tell before going into a battle how well my character will do. For comparison, in KT's games there's this constant overabundance of factors influencing this: character level which affects their stats, their weapon and whatever skills it has on it, equipables/coins/Gundam parts/blueprints that _further_ influence your characters stats, the difficulty rating of the stage you picked, the _seperate_ difficulty level you're allow to choose-- it's too much. I heard FEWarriors has a reccommended level system in it, so KT might be headed in the right direction, but having only played Fate Extella Link, I can say for certain it does this much better than most of KT's games. You have your character level and you have the stage's recommended level (which changes based on which difficulty is chosen), with the only other factor being your install skills. Even with a solid install skill setup, taking on a stage 5-10 levels higher than your character will lead to taking more damage and dealing less. It's very easy to understand, and most importantly, it's fairly easy to set up a manageable level of challenge for myself when I want it.
Now if only they'd introduce a way to _reduce_ my characters level in the same way I can raise it and I'll be happy.
Thanks for the interesting comment, you make some great points. Also, concerning the last part, did you know that you actually can reduce your characters' levels in FE Warriors? It's always back down to 1 (you get their drop materials in exchange based on the number of levels) but it's a great way to keep the experience fresh or challenge yourself
Oooh, that IS interesting! I've heard some disappointing things about moveset variety in that game and I'm not a FE fan myself so I've been on the fence whether to buy it but knowing that might just be the defining factor. I presume FE Warriors has a system where you can level up with money like Hyrule Warriors and Pirate Warriors 3, yes?
EDIT: Actually I could probably just go watch your review of it to find out.
Being a huge fan of Fate Stay Night and musou games, I don't know how I overlooked this game.
I literally bought the game while listening to the beginning of your video and am hyped for your guides :o
Lol I read this as I’m doing the exact same thing
I remember moving to Pirate Warriors 2 and being confused how it had nothing to do with the first game for a little bit. I think I've started to accept that as a Musou formula from any company...
I am so sad that lancer from fate/zero isn't among the cast. I really liked his design and personality
Same with Gilgamesh's Stay Night outfit
This review got me to get the game. Even though I don't know fate, I still have no regrets getting this game. So fun
Warriors Dojo. Best review I’ve looked up. And as someone loving One Piece PW4 good on you for the mention, i do see you are a man of culture by adding the sickest lick from Dynasty Warriors as your outdo......Bravo good sir lol
My biggest problem was that some costumes (I believe the DLC ones) don't change the image of the character during conversations or selects. I never played any other Fate games, so the story did not bother me too much.
Gotta say, this does look interesting. The digital environment makes it so that you don’t have to move across open terrain, rather, almost all the land is a Keep from a technical standpoint. It also has that unique move system that I swear inspired the Runes of Age of Calamity (Cooldown, unique usage between characters.)
As a fate fan as someone who was put off the first game for the gameplay and just googled the story. The first minute just sold me on the game and I plan to buy it next time I’m looking for a new game in between big releases I buy. Bit disappointed that the story is only okay. But also as a Fate fan I’ve already had many up and downs so this isn’t that bad.
I was going to question the lack of an English dub, but then remembered that it was only Saber (Artoria), Nero, Gilgamesh, Astolfo, Nameless (EMIYA), Karna, Cu Chulainn, Jeanne D'arc, Gilles De Rais, Medusa, Iskandar, Gawain, Francis Drake and Robin Hood who had VA's
Great review! Having played both games, I agree with a lot of the points that you made.
Fate/Extella 2 is probably going to be one of the Best Musou Games Ever. Cause Nasu is going to be even more involved with it and they are going to expand on Link's Gameplay.
aha! that is a bold claim. May actually have to play this... (how's the multiplayer gameplay? btw) I guess Sengoku Basara seems like the best Warriors-like I've seen.
Waiting for Type-Moon to add some Tsukihime characters to their Fate games. One can dream.
Extella Link had less involvement from Kinoko Nasu the Creator of the Series on Purpose. So the Story was handled by the other guy, Higashide.
Dont worry tho, he became far better at handling Fate Stories and ended up writing one of better FGO Mobile Scenarios later on.
I take it from the gameplay shown he is playing on the Switch?
Its great to hear your thoughts and feelings with this game and I gotta say I agree with you on many if not all of the points made.
Another thing I would like to hear your thoughts on with this game is the multiplayer mode.
It’s pretty hard to formulate opinions on a mode that no one ever plays today
@@anthonytoledo9493 pretty much summed it up
My only issue was that this game was super easy. Only way to lose here was to play Jeanne and use np 4 times. Love gameplay tho and agree this should be golden standard
I disagree. This game is fucking hard af. I'm playing it now and my weakass allied servants and master keep getting killed 😭🗑️
@@aidou97 Well it deppends what stage you are playing as well. If you playing with a character with recomended level there is no way to lose as long as you are paying attention to your masters hp. If you are stupid like me and play lvl 150 stage with level 50 servant then you might get one shoted
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I'm getting this game on December 25 so I really hope you released the Berserker Lancelot guide video or blue saber at least.
Either way I'm subscribing and watching almost all of your videos
It's disappointing that they took out the "Moon Crux", since that screamed "fanservice" lol
where is my Ishtar guide
K. Basically. Seraph Basically rewrites itself as it is a device/realm with limited space.
Fate Extella takes place within the "Fate Extra" universe, which has several routes and different stories as with each rewrite different events come up. The few consistencies being the dead deadface Protagonist, Hakuno. Tamamo. Nero. Gawain. Robin Hood. And Nameless (Emiya).
Don't forget Gilgamesh being where he's not supposed to be
@@ForestofCicadas and Arturia and Ryougi Shiki just kinda ...
Being there
Was thinking of getting it now when cheap, now I am more tempted.
Looking forward to the character videos. Quick question, as the DLC is currently on sale: is Young Altera worth buying?
I think she's a lot of fun. I also think she's overpriced
(Why is Sir Gawain wearing samurai-influenced armor? And Medusa - no snakes?? Why is Ishkandar (Alexander) an older guy than the others when he only lived to 32? etc etc)
Your ultimate thesis is correct for sure. This is the best Musou game ever made. Samurai Warriors 5 just came out, and it's pretty good, but I think I still prefer this one.
Wait a minute you didn’t mention pvp that’s in extella link
I need to give the Extra games a fair crack, right now I've only played Link first two story chains. I thought it was pretty good, but I just really like Astolfo and Charlemagne
But… does it have two-player split screen???
Ill probably grab this on sale. I got bored of umbral star. But I’m willing to try Link, just not at full price.
Does this game plays well on a keyboard and mouse? I'm thinking of buying it on Steam
i really like his design, but i can't seemed to ever get comfortable to his moveset.
i guess he's just not for my playstyle
Would you recommend playing this game even if I haven’t played the first?
Yeah, absolutely
I can't tell you enough how absolutely blown away I was by Extella Link. I thought "oh, this is one of those stupid FATE games that started off as porn" and turned my nose up at it like a good boy should. And then I got it on sale for cheap and tried it, and I agree that it is bar none the best Warriors game ever. I've always had a moment with other Warriors games where I started to get bored or tired of the objectives. This game manages not only to keep combat interesting by giving you so many different characters with so many unique skills, but also with pretty fresh objectives throughout the missions.
Oh, and Darius is the best servant. 1 v 1 me.
Ok I still don’t know if I need to play the first game to understand this one
You can, but if you're like me you won't understand the first game either lol.
After like a year, decided to go back to the first game and look into the price of this game with dlcs included....and what is this? And even ignoring that because most of the dlc is just visual stuff, it feels sad to hear that the story kinda sucks in comparison to what came before.
Just got this on steam it really fun
Dang, why does the best Warriors gameplay have to come from a Fate game? To each their own, but I seem to have this instinctive dislike towards what I see of it. I like a lot of anime, but the designs here look so overdone and incoherent.
I may look into it because I'm intrigued by a musou game that expands a lot on the gameplay (recently bought DW8 after an absence in the genre since DW5 vanilla), so I really appreciate this review!
I started with Hyrule Warrriors, then I played DW8 for the first time and I found the gameplay slow and stiff, at least in comparison to HW. I really recommend you HW or Fire Emblem Warriors, the action and gameplay are super fast and fun! Same for One Piece Pirate Warriors 4. :D
Nah one piece pirate warriors 3 and 4 are better. The musou elements in extella link are extremely limited
masterpiece you a funny guy
People like me who cant download fate in playstore
I dislike the generic anime art style, but you sold me on this. I'll try to find a copy for the Switch.
Did you end up getting it? I'm thinking about it but I have the same road block you seemed to: the characters look like someone vomited Pure Anime onto a canvas.
But many new elements to musou gameplay? I'm really intrigued.
@@windup13ird60 I got it and I enjoyed it. I skipped all the dialogs and I found plenty of characters that I liked to play, so the art style is still there but I managed to ignore it.
The game is good, combat is enjoyable and frantic, but some of the new ideas aren't as well-executed, like having to mash a button to deal more damage, or to defend yourself or active skills being a bit too powerful. It also doesn't have much to do. Aside from the Story, the extra mode is a list of missions, and the last one's recommended level is 150. I'm not grinding to that point.
Overall I like the game, but I don't think it's a "Warriors Masterpiece". For the right price, it's worth checking out.
@@JagGentlemann Thank you so much for the reply and the thoughts! I always feel kind of shady replying to old comments.
It's 50% off on Steam now so I might bite. Not having a game that lasts forever might actually be good, as I'm currently staring down the grind of getting legendary weapons in DW8.
It's this or Pirate Warriors 4. Seems like this has cooler gameplay and I'm interested just to see that, whereas I think PW4 has co-op remote play
@@windup13ird60 Well, personally I think Pirate Warriors 4 is better. It's not a game that lasts forever, and the combat is so freaking good. You can really make long strings and combos in that game. The problem is that it barely has a strategic layer, but the combat is so good that I give it a pass.
@@JagGentlemann Thanks again! One Piece is one of my favorite stories ever, so it compares favorably to Fate. As long as the gameplay is a successful advancement from DW8 (which I enjoy but this whole discussion started because I wanted to see a different take on musou) then I'm there (it is also one sale).
Meh, I still like Few and HW more due to the overwhelming amount of content and fast gameplay. That being said, this is a damn GOOD warriors game.
I’m disappointed that you haven’t maxed out Astolfo’s bond level yet, shame.
Please give me the link
the game ply looks a lot like pirate warriors 4
Question: could you possibly explain what it is about the first game's story that you found so compelling? You see, when I opened this video to hear you first say that this game was the best musou game, but one of its only flaws is that its story is lacking compared to the first one have an excellent story, I was taken aback, because the story in the first was quite bad. I hadn't watched the previous video, but now I had to, so I paused this one to watch it, and in that video you mostly gloss over the story to talk about your gripes with the gameplay.
TL;DR I'm curious as to what you liked beyond what you reference here with how Extella 1 was "clever" and "kept you blind to its twists and turns" which can't be all you cared about
Sorry if I was too vague there, I was attempting to not spoil anything.
In a nutshell, I really enjoyed how the first game played with multiple endings and linked them into a whole. When I was playing Nero and Tamamo's sections I was trying to piece together in my head how these two stories could fit, then realized going into Altera's story that we were in a digital version of a self-correcting multiverse. The opening to Altera's story was where I became hooked on to see where they were going with this, and the way the final part of the story utilized this to create a self-aware Praetor who could link the Servants with the Titan was satisfying. On top of this structure which I found clever, I thought the candid dialogue, although a bit weeby ngl, was entertaining and self-aware enough to keep me reading and seeking out further character interactions.
@@warriorsdojo6044 Fair enough, those were certainly interesting aspects of it (even if they don't amount to anything due to the need to make sure Nero was the one who did the heavy lifting)
(I don't blame you if your brain blocked out Nero Venus, i try to forget it myself)
@@warriorsdojo6044 ahh if only there's a tamamo end too... I like nero as a character but the cast around her tends to end up being wall flowers(same happened in fgo)... In tamamo's route the generals have more individuality and tamamo herself is a fun roller coaster ride
I still don't exactly understand how extella is a bad story to people. But hey, I am also the guy who thinks stiff like kaleid season4 and UBW suck and other people like it, so I guess just nobody knows what is good and what is bad at the end of the day.
@@warriorsdojo6044 what about that other comment from two months ago
Great and most fun......until Pirate Warriors 4 blew it out of the Water with get this......Jumping lol. Now it may sound like I’m bashing this game but I say all this while this is download 😏
9:33 gross, otherwise great review
NO GOD ! PLEASE NO! NOOOOOO
i can't get over how ugly this game is honestly. i couldn't pick it up.
I'll check it out if it's on sale, but I wish the art style wasn't so anime.
Edit: to be clear, it's not that I think anime is intrinsically bad, but the character design looks generic and uninspired. It's like the thought process of the character design begins and ends with, "make it look like anime".
GiantButterKnife Fate literally started off as a japanese visual novel and has like 20 animes’
Excuse me, what are you snorting? This series have been anime ever since forever. Hell, it's origin is from a hentai visual novel.
you all so full of crap dude... this game is shockingly poor ( from graphics. jittery on PC, boob physics spazzes out, no FOV slider no Graphical sliders even to turn off some of the effects... story is a downer and gameplay is pretty much the same as in Dynasty warriors! When the enemy attacks you you ARE STUNLOCKED. No bloody counters until enemy finishes the combo lol )
I was looking for a honest comment because the enemies looked off to me like no impact mowing on grass is that true can I get some kind of enjoyment out of the combat?
3:08 I am 3 years late but bruh
the evil archimedes was from a different universe that was the whole plot of the previous game that he keeps traveling and than in the fourth universe he died
which means the archimedes of said 4th universe is still alive because the 1 we met and died in the previous game was from a different universe
there is no mental gymnastics
just remembering the plot of the previous game
Does this game plays well on a keyboard and mouse? I'm thinking of buying it on Steam
@@akiradkcn idk I playd on PC
but the controls are pretty easy and nothing complicated so I think it will play really well on computers
@@adam-dn3hi thank you bro
@@akiradkcn no problom bro