The Suffering PC Game Review
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The Suffering is a 2004 first and third-person shooter psychological horror video game, developed by Surreal Software for PlayStation 2, Xbox and Microsoft Windows. The game was published by Midway Games for PlayStation and Xbox. The PC version was published by Encore in North America and by Zoo Digital Publishing in Europe. In North America, the game was released for the PlayStation 2 and Xbox in March, and for PC in June. In Europe, it was released for the PlayStation and Xbox in May, and for PC in July. A version was also planned for the GameCube, but was cancelled prior to release. In 2017, the game was released on GOG.com.
The game tells the story of Torque, a prisoner on death row for murdering his ex-wife and two children, a crime of which he claims to be innocent, saying he blacked out and cannot remember what happened. Shortly after he arrives in Abbot State Penitentiary on Carnate Island, off the coast of Maryland, an earthquake hits the island, resulting in the prison being attacked by unusual supernatural threats. So Torque needs to attempt to fight his way to freedom, whilst also going up against the demons within him, and attempting to remember what really happened to his family. The game features three endings, depending on the players' actions throughout, each of which reveal a different version of the murder of Torque's family.
The Suffering received primarily positive reviews. Whilst some critics felt the blend of action with horror didn't work, and that the game was not sufficiently scary, others praised its differentiation from traditional survival horror games such as Resident Evil, Silent Hill and Fatal Frame. Many also lauded the creature design, the tone, and the game's morality system, which determines both the ending, and how certain characters interact with Torque during the game. The Suffering was a commercial success, selling over 1.5 million units worldwide across all platforms. In 2005, a sequel was released, The Suffering: Ties That Bind. 
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Man i miss mid 2000s action games, Psi ops, Freedom Fighters, Max Payne, Mercenaries.
So many interesting, varied and replayable titles, puts a little ol' tear in my eye!
they had so many of these games on PS2 it was awsome
Freedom Fighters was so underrated, loved its intro music. Shame, it never had a sequel
Man i spent days on mercanies that game was fun as fuck quite ahead of its time imo
Oh man, I had so much fun with Mercenaries on the PS2. Wish they would do a remake or sth on PC; then again, it's EA so yeah, tough luck.
Hmm rosy retrospection me thinks
That blood getting on the player's gun or even the player is ahead of its time !
even games from these days don't incorporate blood splatters on weapons unless they're melee weapons
@@Lunayvamp Black Mesa does it.
@@Lunayvamp the RE2 remake brought it back somehow, you even get bite marks whenever Leon or Claire is grabbed by a zombie without using a defense item.
You guys never played doom 94?🙄🙄🙄
Shadow warrior?
6:05 "Don't drink the water. They put something in it to make you forget. I don't even remember how I got here."
EdwardOfTheAwesome must be the same actor
@@gub4941 it is.
John Patrick Lowrie
Cmon - didnt mention fully voiced Bestiary book with drawings n shiiiiit.
I'm such a sucker for a Bestiary.
Especially when the game/story/lore have varied and creative designs.
It's also very interesting when you think about it how did Clem see all these different monsters yet somehow never had to fight with any expect for Festers
especially if you take into consideration that he made entries about the last boss but it's hard to imagine it being there before the boss fight anyway
also he said he made a drawing of Torque's family from a picture he found on the ground
but how could he find the picture when Torque never lost it
it's almost as if Clem was a G-man type of character that was secretly watching everything from the distance
Fun fact - In 2008, the U.S. Airforce, in association with Midway, released this game, Area 51, and Civilizations At War: Rise and Fall, as sponsored free downloads. The games contained ads in the menus, but other than that, were the full free thing, an event, that, to this day, still baffles me. PR perhaps? Whatever the case, 12 year old me was pretty excited to get his hands on such a nasty game at the time. Still a favorite!
Heh I remember getting Area 51 that way
Heh I remember getting Area 51 that way
Thats cool as heck!
I got those games at the time. To me, they were still free games, but looks like they're selling them again, so i was pirating them and didn't even knew it.
You can still download the games, but they need some pretty hefty patching to get working on modern systems
I love this channel because it's basically a nostalgia trip through every game I rented back in high school and forgot about
Absolutely loved this game when it was released, man Midway were on absolute fire that year releasing this and Psi-Ops back to back. Such a shame we lost them :(
Also the hologram/film reel doctor was ripped off from "The House on Haunted Hill" remake. they even admit it in the game as it has Valve-type audio commentary when you beat it!
@lest same of there spirit lives on in NetherRealm.
Larry Bundy Jr Well, hello you.
+Larry Bundy JR Hey dude do you recommend any good games? You seem like you have good taste.
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You got some horror related content coming this month Larry?
This is a fucking awesome game! Any horror fan should pick it up for sure!
From call of cthulhu to condemned to this. It's like you know what I want to see. Very nice in depth reviews too, glad i subbed.
Btw the Monster's where design by Stan Winston the special effects Genus behind Terminator 1&2 Aliens Predator 1&2 Jurassic Park & the highly Underrated Monster Squad just too name a Few :)
JayDee284 the alien (or xenomorph) was designed by H.R. Giger.
But they created all the visual effects for Aliens and also the queen was not designed by him. So while Giger created the Alien Stan Winston and his team brought it to life
Stan Winston also design The Thing
That explains a lot, monster designs were definitely a highlight of the game.
@@AscendantStoic yeah a few of them still freak me out.
I’ve been watching this channel for a while and with the quality content coming so fairly consistently I doubt I’m going to stop, keep em’ coming
I banged watched all his reviews lol so now when I see a new video I jump on it
Thanks!
It's alright man but I should be the one thanking you for these videos!
The suffering 1 and 2 were some of the best games I have ever played. They had great graphics for the time, varied combat with a lot of enemies, secrets to encourage multiple playthroughs, an unrivaled dark story and much more.
Midway was truly a shining star in the gaming industry who's light can still be felt to this day.
I really loved this game, the horror elements really made it feel unique in a way, awesome shooter with horror elements has been done before but I thought it was particularly good here. It just feels amazing to play and I truly consider it a classic... *sigh* they sure don't make games like this anymore... I wish they did
Yeah man. Greed bought up all the studios.
Long live Bobby Cotton
I'm glad you finally got around to looking at this GGGman. This is probably my favorite horror video game of all time. I can't think of any other horror game as creative as this one and I enjoy it a lot more than most horror classics like Resident Evil and Silent Hill because it not only brings the scares but is genuinely fun to play as well. Your biggest issue with it is that it's unclear what exactly these monsters are and what is going on but I actually view that as a strength. I've always found that what you don't understand is scarier than what you do understand. For example, I really liked Silent Hill up until it was revealed what was actually going on because I now knew there was a way for me to stop the madness. You never get that sense in The Suffering, all you can do is just keep moving forward and hope to find someway to escape. It's also left up to interpretation somewhat and some people have speculated that everything that happens in the game is all in Torque's head which is interesting to think about. To me it is an underrated masterpiece of the genre for it's setting alone (seriously, what is creepier than a haunted prison) as well as it's gameplay and visual design but I will agree that those last few levels of the game are bit annoying. I'd say that it starts to dip and quality when you reach the fight with Height. Still that's a very minor complaint in my opinion. I'm really glad this have been released digitally so more people can discover it.
As for the sequel, it's still a decent game in my opinion as it does share a lot of the same strengths that made the first game such a treat to play but the setting isn't as effective, the villains aren't as interestingly designed as the spirits of Carnate (even Killjoy can't save them) and there is a key change to the gameplay that really botches the overall gameplay. I also feel like it didn't need to be made and is really only there for people like me who really loved the first game.
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The thing about Torque's moral ambiguity is YOU are Torque. You decide who lives and dies, and the whole game changes as your own morality shapes it. That's why Torque never speaks. Your own thoughts are essentially Torque's thoughts.
Easily one of my favorite games ever! Seriously monsters designed by Stan Winston Studios! I wish we could get a third game!
EDNOOOOO I don't see why not Warner bros bought out midway and release both games on gog.com
awesome video, really wanna grab this. can't wait to see more horror reviews by you
For those wanting to watch the whole thing (don't mind my shameless shilling) ruclips.net/video/f2QDvljpVnQ/видео.html
Dude I used to play this game so much and the sequel as well, honestly good old days, I honestly want to see a comeback to this amazing game, I mean honestly the atmosphere the characters alone are amazing let along the story, it's honestly still to this day my favourite game ( horror), anyway man keep up and do more.
A Random soul from Chicago Illinois Shit This game should a remaster/remake! The story was pretty decent and I liked how you could change the results of the story based off your actions.
Honestly
Honestly, i honestly don't think you're honestly being honest.
Loved the intro on this Gggmanlives, top quality content as usual. Absolutely loved this game in my early twenties, so atmospheric, action packed and great story. They don't make them like this any more. Sequel wasn't so bad either but struggled to live up to the original.
Gggman, and the suffering ?! Is this paradise ? I remember playing the first one while shitting my pants so hard I never picked up the sequel...can't wait for the next video ! Good job man, keep up the good work
If you ever wondered the sequel is as good as the first, only the final boss is a little bit of a letdown, but the whole dark journey to fight him is as awesome as a horror shooter can get. I highly recomend you try it when you get the chance. Cheers!
Yesterday I discovered this channel and I already viewed most of the old school games reviews that I LOVE on your channel. Subscribed.
EDIT: I Believe there is a third party patch to increase the FOV
Love these older game reviews!
AWESOME! Wanted to see you get to the Suffering games eventually - them and Darkwatch: Curse of the West were the only horror themed FPS' I remember that I recall that I was hoping to see ya cover. Definitely hope you get to High Moon's first title eventually - it should make for a good Halloween review. That game had a cool atmosphere, boy...
I remember when my big sister coaxed me into buying this game for her when me and her were kids, we were both scared to shit to even finish this game. Even to this day I am still scared to even touch this game, then the sequel was alrightt but fun fact the ending to the first game does have an effect in the second game but mostly adds a different intro and tutorial in the second game. The enemies were manifestations and vengeful spirits of the people who died on the island, the second one tried to give it that the goverment been experimenting on people. The game does have indepth lore but only if you read through Clem's journals on the enemies and Consuela's journal for the island.
Nostalgia! Love your channel man. Keep it up
As always, awesome review, man. What I respect the most about your reviews is your unbiased approach, and the way you look at games objectively. A lot of reviewers let their personal feelings interfere with how they rate a game. You are easily my favorite reviewer on RUclips, and your love for 90's shooters makes it even better. Keep 'em coming, man.
Thanks!
Very cool, thanks for taking a look at this. I played it through entirely on release and remember really enjoying it. There wasn't much else at the time that was as creepy as this was while also as action packed as it was. It seems that at least gameplay-wise it has held up OK over the years. Nice to see it be released on GOG.
With regards to the experiments on inmates: That only explains where, specifically, the Slayers have manifested from. Killjoy was the one doing experiments on people in the abandoned mansion back in the '20s or '30s. You can even see some of the Slayers' getups hanging on the wall in the mansion, I think.
As for where the monsters as a whole came from, I think the idea was that an incredible amount of bad shit had happened on the island over the years, and for some reason, Torque's arrival was either a breaking point or a catalyst. It was pretty vague, and it makes me wonder what kind of explanation we might have originally gotten if these games had turned into a franchise.
Can't wait for the ties that bind review. That one was my favorite back in the PS2 days.
Dude, I honestly love your channel
I honestly love you!
@@Gggmanlives oh my gooooddd😝
Really enjoying these reviews Gggmanlives! I grew up with some of these videogames and it is quite impossible to not feel some nostalgia... now more than ever with the state of the videogame industry. But anyways.. Brute Force 2003 anyone?
Ohhh I've been waiting for this review! I was kinda hoping you'd mention how the monsters were designed by the same dude who designed the Aliens and the Terminator -
Stan Winston.
Forgot about this game! Really brought back old memories of a friend I beat this game with. Thank you.
Also, the making-of and commentary were pretty cool. Shows real effort and passion put into the game.
I always wanted to play this game back when it came out but never got it. It looked very unique and it still is to this day, and I completely forgot about it until now. Thanks for reviewing this dude. :)
The journal where they describe events/characters was really well done in this game.The narrator voice reading it was great.
I also really liked the multiple endings and how it changed the MC motivations,which was still new at the time.
I loved this game, you should have mentioned the manifesto/journal that tell stories of the creatures and how they came to be, and the haunting past of the locations you go through and great sketches of the enemies.
I just downloaded it and this game was pretty spectacular and your review was matching with the contents in this game.
This was the first horror game I played with before discovering the Silent Hill series. It brings back good memories to me when I was a teenager. Glad that you covered it.
Thank you for doing a review on this game - makes me remember the time that games actually were made for players and for playing. Loved this game, hell - still love it. Gave me shivers and chills... GG
Holy shit ive been looking for this game over a year now i couldnt remember what was it called and now i randomly have it recommended. Thanks
Excellent review as always
The thing about Torque's moral ambiguity is YOU are Torque. You decide who lives and dies, and the whole game changes as your own morality shapes it. That's why Torque never speaks. Your own thoughts are essentially Torque's thoughts.
Damn, I wish that you would have talked about the journal. That was one of my favorite parts of the game. But I still loved your video.
we need suffering remake this game is so good brings good memories from my childhood
Thank you for reviewing this underrated masterpiece, I remember when I was going to get it with a parent they told us they aren't going to sell us the game due to the content and we're taking it off the shelves which is kinda ironic because if i remember correctly they were still selling GTA. After a few years I earned it and first got it on the PS2 along with it's only sequel and later traded them for the Xbox and still have them to this day and I know I am not the only one saying this but I'm still hoping for another Suffering game. Whether it's a late sequel, spiritual successor or another game similar.
BTW, I don't think using the beast won't effect the ending. Its mainly helping or killing the NPCs. Also I don't think you've mentioned there are three endings. The third being neutral.
On another note, I find it funny that the blood will stay on you for a minute or close to a minute depending how much and you got The Evil within where the blood will stay on you for a few seconds. I know it's a nip pick but I personally still enjoy both.
if it's possible to do the Evil dead games you need too they area fantastic.
The first one was a terrible PC port.
The Aussie Viking well fistful of boomstick and regeneration were, hail to the king was ass
No they aren't. They're garbage.
I wish I subscribed to your channel earlier. You are literally reviewing all my favorite video games, including this one.
Thanks, mate!
I finally found out the game I watched my uncle playing and had nightmares from when I was about 7 years old. Thanks for the review, it seems like decent game to play on the free time.
One of my favorite horror games right here! The Suffering series is unique for sure.
Thanks for reviewing this one!
My favorite horror game of all time along with Resident Evil 4 and Dead Space 1!
Wish this series received more love... The creature design which is based on how they were executed was so amazing! Thanks for reviewing this after so long!
GGMANROCKS !
I remember playing this as a kid, i just did it once and coldn't sleep
I should get it again, it looks even better than i remember
I remember having fun with the sequel on PS2. Granted, that was ages ago. I got it for $20 about half a year after it was released. I'm curious to see if it holds up well.
I loved the series! Great video dude!
Good review! Can't wait for your take on Ties That Bind.
I've only played that one and found the overall atmosphere very dense & genuinely frightening. Maybe that's why i didn't get too far on there...
Judging from your opinion here i'd also say they did a better job of portraying the main character.
Man, i loved the shit out of this and Ties That Bind. A great mix of action and horror. It saddens me that this beauty was left behind with no third game or port for present-Gen consoles, but at least we got legacies to do them justice. Thanks, G.
I beat this game when it first came out honestly one of the scariest games i ever played. It was awesome. This is the first time I've heard of it in years. Thank you for the vid
I'm so happy you got a kick out of this game, it was one of my favorites when I was a kid.
We need this to be remade!!!!
Oh wow. Youve actually are reviewing what Ive asked in last episode! Thanks!
watching the first person gameplay reminds me of Dusk so much , and I can't wait for the full releas.e
THIS, is hands-down, balls-in, one of my absolute favorite games I've ever played in my life. Thanks for bringing some attention to it!
That time of year again !
GGG for this month if you want a real scary FPS game that kicks ass please review DarkWatch it's on PS2 and Original Xbox. Also fuck yeah the Suffering fuckin rocks I've never played the sequel but the first game was fuckin awesome they need to remaster it for Xbox One and PS4. Man Midway really knew how to make games they made Mortal Kombat, they made the Rampage series, they made this and many more classics.
DarkWatch was fucking great, impressive looking game for PS2 hardware alongside with Black, but i think he already reviewed it.
Luxor Firework ohh darkwatch is amazing, i still play it today. Also, it a lot of fun to play with friends the frenetic gunplay and flow with the double jumps and stuff make it so much fun.
darkwatch is literally not a scary game. it's an action game with a horror/western atmosphere. at zero points does that game attempt to scare you.
@Andy Well what I mean scary I just mean horror themed and that's what this month is like i've played the Suffering I mean to me it's not scary its just action with horror themes and stuff. Also @Satanicexela no he hasn't reviewed it believe me I've looked GGGmanlives Darkwatch and nothing came up but yeah it is impressive hardware alongside with Black and MetalWolf Chaos, I know MetalWolf wasn't released outside Japan but I was lucky enough to get a copy when I was over there when it was released back in 04'.
I replay this every year, masterpiece.
I loved this game and it's sequel as a kid. will you be talking about ties that bind?
You obviously didn't watch the video if you're asking that question.
"Top notch review as always Gggman. Fucking love this game and the 2nd one. Sucker for late 90s to early 2000s supernatural stuff. Might play it for my channel someday." - nana
The suffering is one of my favorite childhood game. The love the monsters entry because i can picture myself doing the same thing if something like this occur in real life.
Both this game and it's sequel are criminally underrated. Solid gameplay, creative monsters and a genuinly creepy atmosphere. Thanks a lot for reviewing it. I really look foreward to your review of the sequel. :-)
REVIEW POSTAL!!!
I remember playing this game on its PC release and really liking it back then.
I use to play this back in Highschool. Man, that feels like so long ago.
Oh man, I played this game SO many times back in my X-Box days.
I rented it first, but after a night of tense gameplay, I knew I had to buy it.
Playing it on original xbox, it still holds up well, for first time im using headphones, and realized there are music and sound cues that are easy to miss without it, also it makes the atmosphere that much better.
The fact that they never actually say where the monster come from really isn't a big deal. Its nice not always having all of the facts layed out for you and spoon fed, it leaves some bits up to he imagination and its what keeps people taking about works for many years down the road.
Also Gggmanlives, your reviews are top tier, id say your one of the best on YT imo.
Keep seeing youtubers I follow posting in other youtubers I follow. lol Anyway, played this one and the 2nd one back in the day. Really enjoyed them. Id even say.....underrated.
I didn't know exactly the time passed since I played it, but you mentioned 10 years and I think my impression of the graphics back then were A LOT better than what I've seen here just now. Weird...
God I loved the Ties That Bind, hope for a remaster or a remake of some sort
The way I see it story wise, it's a mass haunting. Prisons are bad places that could harbor a lot of bad energy. When a person does and that mood is strong enough it leaves behind a poltrigeist. However, possibly due to the experimentation, could've lent a hand in them manifesting in the ways those that suffered have died. Maybe when Tork came in, it was kind of the breaking point for all that badness and shit.
I really want to try this game out. It is good to see the game is still fun to this day. I have an interest in early to kid 00s tps games. Back when there were no cover systems.
I loved games like this back in the day. This, Ghosthunter, Psi-ops, Freedom Force, The Getaway (sigh) good times. Were there any good UK games of this quality that never got published in the US?
Really loved the two Suffering games when I was like 15. Gotta re buy em for my ps2
I remember being a young kid and going to rent this at Blockbuster and playing it all night. This was a great game, really unique and well executed .
Taking a note from Rockstar's originally trilogy of GTA titles the silent protagonist is a way to get the player to imagine themselves AS the character they are playing as, meaning they are the character in the game world making all these decisions to do this or that, the morale system is another way to make the player feel connected to the character as their decisions are being represented in the game world itself.
Edit: and speaking of the morale system it does affect your health regen and the pills you take to refill your health, good morale gives you a lot more health from the meds while evil morale gives you a lot less health from the meds.
i arrive 3 years later, anyway, 4:46 the time you passed transformed into the creature or the amount of times you used the transformation doesn't really affect the game's ending, that's a myth, the only thing that can affect the game's ending is the morality actions you have done through all the game, like he says later in the video (same for the second part). in fact that transformation has the function of give you another way to defeat enemies when you're run out of ammo (for example). and you can upgrade the special attack of that form (spacebar in PC) by killing enemies while you are in that form. so it's a very important and useful mechanic in the game. PD: good review by the way, this is an old game and very few people remember it. i still remember when i play the demo of the 2nd game through Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks in ps2 back in the 2000's. was one of the best games i ever played in that console. and after a few years i was able to fully play the first and the second part in PC. and i still believe that the 1st part have a better environment that the 2nd part had, even with that, the 2nd part have a few upgrades of mechanics compared to the first part. anyway, thanks for keeping alive this game, i still don't believe i see videos of this game in 2017 it's amazing.
Hey Gggman! I have been subscribed for ages and I notice you don't mind reviewing more, let's say 'Controversal' games... So I've been playing this VN called 'Euphoria' and I think you should take a look! It starts out fairly average at the first half but trust me the story really goes places and I guarantee it'll blow your mind! So yeah give it a look it's published by clock up if you are having trouble finding it :)
Just a warning the game is extremely graphic so I hope you have a strong stomach lol
Please review my first ever FPS game Medal of Honor Airborn. I have such a high opinion of that game although I know there are some problems with it. Also the ending just run.
I saw this game on the funhaus channel and I liked what I saw so much that I bought a used copy of it and its sequel on ebay. I haven't played it because I mostly play games on my pc but this made me remember that I have the game and need to play it.
Stan Winston, the legendary special effects artist created the monsters for this game, that's why their design is so creative.
Appreciated you touched upon it.
People talk so less about 2000s shooters these days.
Has GGGman ever reviewed the 2005 King Kong game? It was fucking great
i fucking loved ties that bind dude
Wow this is a blast from the past
I think it was for the best that there was no definitive answer to the monsters, at least in the original game. Maybe they're vengeful spirits, maybe there was some kind of evil experiment going on, it was fun to speculate on. As for Torque being silent, it probably would have been difficult to make him emote if he was jumping around from being killing some characters and helping others, but at least they did try to give him some character by suggesting that he had a difficult life prior to the game, with it just being vague enough that he was far from an innocent man, but perhaps not a monster like he could be if the player made him act like one.
The creatures are supernatural in origin. They represent methods of violent death in places that have experienced a lot of death. The idea is that the island is like the Overlook Hotel in The Shining - a concentration of evil that influences the minds of those who stay there too long, hence why so much violence and death has occurred on the island over the centuries. At the start of the game some kind of explosion of evil has occurred, almost like the island has finally reached bursting point, and unleashed all these creatures
In the sequel it's explained further that the catalyst was Torque. Torque has supernatural qualities himself and him arriving on the island was like a key being fitted into a lock. It also turns out that the evil force causing the creatures to appear was not limited to the island, but is actually following Torque wherever he goes - so in the sequel he makes it back to Baltimore only for the entire city to be overrun with NEW creatures within a few hours.
It also explains a bit more about the creatures - or Malefactors, as they're called in that game. Basically throughout human history these creatures have appeared in places of extreme violence and horror, but only numbering 1 or 2 and never for very long. The incident on the island - and later, Baltimore - is the first time these creatures have appeared in mass numbers with no sign of going away.
The sequel also has the woman from Six Feet Under doing a voice, fyi.
Man I remember I used to fucking love this game! Don't remember playing the second one much but I loved playing through this
If you want to do another horror style game Ghost Hunter is an underrated game.
Would also love to hear you review the Killzone series
I would kill for a remaster of this game especially since on consoles it had some tech issues.
I was literally just thinking the other day that this game would be a great game for you to review. So weird how this came out just a couple days later.
I am stalking you. Sorry you had to find out this way.