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All local dimming zones will have blooming only a stupid user will complain for it. In addition if apple uses oled display nowhere it can go over 600 nits on hdr unlike with mini led the lcd can go up to 1500 nits
@@rm-projects, Yup! It’s exactly like when people started talking about AirTags having stalking issues. They claimed that it was too easy to use it for stalking purposes, but they never talked about Tile and the Galaxy SmartTags, while them having the exact same issue!
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@@froznfire9531 I am with you, specially his brother Fadin is quite a blind fan. They do have nice comparison videos but they are usually partial towards Apple.
Yeah it has blooming effeccts I have it and you can only see it if there is no light and specifically the white color and specially in the note taking app with dark mode 🙂🙂 and you cant unsee it once you noticed it🙂🙂
@@dtibor5903 _ That’s crazy. In normal room light I set my 2020 Pro around 30-40 % brightness. If it’s pitch black turning it to 100% will burn your eyes.
Cameras can also create blooming that doesn’t even exist in real life. You can take a photo of an OLED TV and you’ll see the difference between real life and the photo So a picture on Reddit in not a proof of anything.
I have the new iPad and the issue is VERY noticeable in low ambient lighting or high brightness. There is also a purple tint when your view the screen at an angle. Overall this screen is okay but doesn't even come close to an OLED
@@TheMinimumPC In other words water is wet. The same thing can be said with OLED dominating Mini-LED displays. That aside this is still the best IPad Pro display and the most competitive Apple has been to a Samsung Tablet display.
You missed the actual use case where this becomes extremely noticable - dark mode + dark room with low brightness (which is how most people will use it in a dark room). The UI elements as you navigate between dark apps have a really legit bad border around them. E.g the white bar at the bottom has a 1.5cm thick square bloom around it. I believe it's a software issue unless Apple have lied about the screen specs but it is bad right now.
Thanks bud, almost canceled the order for mine, I’ll go ahead and let it ship now and see for myself, it’ll definitely be going back though if it’s not up to par with the ultra premium price tag… I gonna have faith that this content is accurate…. Thanks… EDIT… the blooming issues are actually real, and in some situations pretty terrible… I see it more when the brightness is turned down in a dimmer room rather than with the brightness up… the pictures people are showing are NOT just a camera effect, that’s exactly what I see with my eyes, it’s a dynamic range problem apparently, it’s not a contrast problem… by tuning the brightness up in your test you hid the problem, it’s more noticeable when the brightness is set where you’d actually use it…
Every monitor/screen to a certain degree has blooming. Even the Apple’s XDR Monitor. Heck even the monitor’s that it’s up against that cost $20-30k that are used for professional industry work. This is obviously exaggeration from nitpickers trying to find fault in everything. Thanks Max for showing us actual tests and crazy scenarios that normal people wouldn’t even be doing.
@@TrioLOLGamers and OLED is very dim compared to Miniled. Samsung uses cheap OLED panels on the Galaxy Books but they're so dim that you can't use them outside.
The blooming I've experienced is nowhere near the horrendous blooming on macrumors, but I found it quite noticeable on black screens with white objects, watching in the dark. The dealbreaker is that it's much heavier (to accommodate the display) and the extra weight makes it much harder to comfortably use the device.
To all of you who are deciding whether to get an M1 12.9 iPad Pro, let me tell you that I watched these kind of RUclips videos and convinced myself blooming wouldn’t be that bad, oh boy was I wrong . Dark mode is just awful on this screen. Whenever there was a black screen with anything brilliant on it blooming was present . I could’ve lived with it if it had been just a little “glow”, but it was a 1-in glow around anything white. It was present at every brightness level in dark pitch rooms and partial black rooms. It is a shame such a nice and expensive device has this much of blooming. I just returned mine today. Maybe it was just my unit but I won’t risk getting a replacement and having the same or worse blooming.
I have a 2021 iPad Pro 12.9” maxed out 2TB, etc, and I’ve had no bleeding or ‘blooming’ anywhere. It may be an issue from panel to panel but it probably depends on the lighting in a room, or the eyes of the user.
Did you get the new iPad? I wanna use it for drawing too and the blooming and the gradient on the edge of the screen are making me wonder if I should just go for the 2020 instead
@@jessicatriana i ended up buying the 11” m1 , but only because they didnt have the 12.9 in store when I went and I needed a new one almost immediately. I honestly dont think the blooming is a huge issue. The mini led screen lets you get better whites and blacks, and I was really looking forward to it. Since I bought the 11” i cant stop thinking about how white isnt white and black like really dark blue. I still really want the 12.9 for my artwork lol
Also the gradient hardly takes up any screen space and really shouldn’t be an issue for your art work at all unless you just notice it all the time. To me, the blooming and shadow is a good trade for better color values and more power
@@j4der4de32 if it makes you feel any better I have a 2018 11” model and I looove the screen! The colors are really good. I wanted to upgrade to a bigger screen but the shadow on the edge of the screen was putting me off. Seems like reviews are blowing the issue out of proportion, thanks for the advice! :)
True, I have the new IPad Pro and it’s the best display on an IPad ever and the most competitive they have ever been to Samsung Tablet displays. Someone did talk about slight blooming and small shadows at the edges of the display though.
@@johnmansfield3317 No the next new Ipad Pro’s will both be OLED. OLED is the superior display technology all top end smartphones and TV’s are also OLED. Samsung is ditching Mini-LED next year and will make top end OLED TV’s from LG’s OLED displays. The only advantage of Mini-LED is brightness and no worries of burn in. OLED wins in all other aspects.
@@ZackSNetwork this is not true. Oled is not very far ahead of micro or nano led, and you conveniently left out by far the worst part of oled... burn in. It is a huge problem. Try playing a specific console game on an oled that has the static icons and borders, it will be burned into your TV permanently in little to no time. Also oled pixels lose their vibrance fairly quickly, couple of years and your screen will not look as good because the pixels have degraded. It is inevitable with organic leds. Also uneven wear, if you watch things with black bars, the pixels turned off will age less than the active pixels. Eventually you will see the actual bars being brighter than the rest. All of this has happened with every oled device I have ever owned
@@johnmansfield3317 I'm not convinced. OLed my have its downside when it comes to overall brightness outside in sunlight but the technology is beyond LCD. MiniLED is simply a small version that are very condensed and pack together. Money talks: Apple have been using cheaper parts when I comes to screen tech for years. Now miniLED may be in the middle of standard LCD and OLed. Note, Samsung is the top manufacturer of OLed for Apple and EVERY other major smartphone and tablet maker. So perhaps they want to disconnect themselves from Samsung like they did Intel. I would Google your suggested theory or ask around before jumping to conclusions.
speaking of display performance alone, MicroLED will be on par with OLED without the burn-in issue it will be more durable. In terms of cost, MicroLED will be super expensive as it is hard to make super small LEDs packed together. In terms of brightness and efficiency, OLED depends on the material used on the O. the best OLED Panel to date is S21 Ultra (Samsung’s own M11 panel, better than their E4 [E for export]). It has a max brightness of 1500nits and high power efficiency at high brightness
I did a few tests with my blooming issue. One of the tests is really revealing… I put three tiny white dots on a black background in the notes app. The bloom is super noticeable and makes a perfect 1 inch square around each dot. If I press my finger over the dot to completely cover it, the bloom square remains, so it’s definitely not an optical illusion. It’s exactly what it looks like in the photos you were showing from people with the same issue. (I can take a picture with my Sony A7SIII if you want a good example) If you look at the screen in a dark room, you start to see it everywhere. It’s definitely a bigger deal than it looks from the tests you were running. Granted your test were good for people who are concerned about how it looks with movies, but even as I type this in a dark room with the screen dimmed low, the bloom is super distracting. I had some really hight hopes for this screen and it seems it’s only delivering in daylight scenarios.
I don’t think there should be a difference... they both have a 120hz touch sample rate so it should be about the same! While they also both have a 240hz sample rate when used with an Apple Pencil.
IPS has backlight bleed along with slow response times, and TN can be great... but manufacturers aren't applying the right tech to it so it usually appears in washed out low res combinations.
@@jackf1684 basically yes, I just simplified to make it shorter. I wrote “LCD and Mini LED” as in “traditional LCD and newer Mini LED”. Those amoles screens on androids I have seen have to acidy or cold tint to my taste. Even iPhone 11 pro. Sure I their blacks are stunning, vibrance is vibrant and etc. So i will be really happy when new generation of phones with mini led screens come out.
@@MrMurmandramas Mini LED shows a lot of promise but then again really... I haven't complained about a 1000:1 contrast ratio on a consumer device ;-; Something like an iPad Pro now has actual value believe it or not with the M1 Chip and also the Mini-LED display being as good as it is. But there's good IPS panels with 3000:1 contrast ratios and faster response times, I'm just waiting for manufacturers to use them. I wonder what these new panels cost compared to like what the MacBook/iPad already uses.
there definitely is. I have the 12.9 iPad Pro m1 and there is a weird slight shadow around the entire edge of the iPad. its not too bad, but I noticed it the first 10 seconds of turning on the iPad. the 11 inch m1 doesn't have the issue
You can notice the shadow when the screen is displaying a solid color. For example when you open a safari webpage, which is mostly all white, you can see the shadow. During a video or a movie, i dont think is noticeble
@@ZackSNetwork the problem is caused by the fact that there are not any mini led along the edges of the display, so the pixels that are located in that area look less bright, simply because there are no leds under that pixels to fully lit them. The apple xdr 32" inch display, which uses a tecnology similar to mini led, has the same exact issue. This means that is a tecnological limitation caused by the mini led, therefore is not fixable by any software update
Hi Max Tech, I find that you can actually see blooming when you see hdr videos in Netflix, which you can’t when watching an sdr video. And I find it quiet annoying.
I returned mine. Blooming is bad, larger gap between the top glass and screen which also leads to shadowing on the borders. I also noticed ghosting of all motion which was terrible. As if the mini LEDs have too slow of a response time. Now we know why they left it out of the 11 inch. I’ll buy an iPad when they stop screwing around with this prehistoric technology and go proper OLED.
Some people expected it to be more competitive with OLED that’s why. Along with the massive power the M1 brings but, not enough features due to current IOS.
Yeah fr when literally you could say that the old display has full screen blooming since it doesn’t have any dimming zones so you can’t even get any true blacks anywhere..
Apple did the right thing, every iPhone and OLED TV i have has some burn in. Some very little and some a lot. my iPhone 11 pro max has burn in already. I definitely wont be getting anything OLED again aside from iPhone because i have no choice there.
I just ordered my second 12.9 Min Led foe my wife after getting mine yesterday. Hope enough of you cancel after these nonsense “blooming” reviews so I can get that July ship date moved up!
Thanks guys! So in depth for how fast you must have made this. I have the new iPad and personally I am okay with the bloom considering how amazing the screen looks. The blacks and rich colors next to the 2020 model are insane. We ran the LG video side to side in a dark room and it’s crazy how good the new display is.
Unbelievable that he failed capture the incredible blooming which ruins my writing experience in dark mode every night. It is more extreme in a dark or semi-dark room with about 10-20% screen brightness.
Oh wow could you please share more about this? I am choosing between 11 and 12.9 and do intend to write at night. Actually, one of the reasons I wanted 12.9 because the black is darker
I bought the 11 M2, and won the 50% money back... then I am thinking about changing it for the 12.9. Is the blooming that bad that I should avoid this change and keep the 11?
I appreciated this video. Not sure how many 12.9” iPad Pro buyers aren’t at least using dark mode at night (in dark or dimply rooms) which is the worst case scenario for this display. I solely use dark mode. Happy with the screen except for in dark or dimply lit rooms. Please show using stock apps, like Settings, Files and Reminders in dark mode with normal brightness settings in a dark room. Something is up with the way non video apps are being displayed. The blooming is way worse. It actually appeared resolved right after the update to 14.6 earlier today but has since returned. I do think their are some improvements Apple can make to how it is controlling the local dimming zones in their stock apps (not during photo or video playback) with expected (normal) screen brightness.
Blooming comes with the territory of this kind of backlighting. People should have done some research, and they would have found out that this kind of backlighting has this kind of issue, and it's not really an issue if properly adjusted.
I noticed blooming for the first time while watching stuff on my iPad Pro in the dark. It was definitely noticeable on black backgrounds with white images/text, but compared to the 2020 iPad Pro screen (which just looks grey overall in the dark) it’s a huge improvement. Most of the time, the blooming that you get isn’t much of an issue in normal lit rooms, or if your brightness isn’t maxed out in darker settings.
In his review, Brad Colbow pointed out that the screen has a shadow round the edge, and that there is a bigger gap between the glass and the screen below it, which makes it worse for drawing/painting than the 2020 model. Thoughts on this?
Can you link me . If the there is bigger gap between glass and display it def makes a big difference for artists who makes drawings with a lot of details
Just got mine and I can see it when I'm in settings, in the dark, with medium brightness. Not as bad as pictures online made it look but it's there. Still happy with it, everything looks bright and beautiful.
I hate my 2021 iPad Pro 12.9! Turn off lights in dark room. In RUclips click any video, then you saw huge problems in lording screen! Love you guys videos all the time 👍
The takeaway? Everything looks superb, really superb! Can we be done with this now., please? Thank you for taking the time to explain things, I really appreciate it. This is a 99% camera issue.
I think either there's significant variation, or you're minimizing the issue. Mine blooms a lot, it doesn't seem to be a problem in lightroom, but I do watch videos in bed and even with the screen brightness turned down it's obviously blooming into the black bars and around the time.
Bro you need to increasing the brightness to above 70%. I have this issue while brightness in more that 80% and believe me it’s disaster if you see it with yourself. Believe me it’s not Exaggeration
I use 12.9 iPad for 2 weeks now, I can clearly see blooming most of the time on almost every screen… considering returning it as this technology isn’t worth it
"Do you guys see that?" No because you cant use a tripod and slow the footage down. Didn't see any issue you mentioned via video, maybe in person you can. Seems like an overblown "issue".
Its quite obvious if you have completely blck with small pure white colours however outside of these very specificconditions i didnt even know it was there
I mean, sometimes people are exaggerating and it’s very frustrating. We all know that iPad Pro 12.9 M1 is a beast, the screen is phenomenal, I like the color and I don’t have any issues with mine. For those who want to return theirs, be quick, you’ll give the opportunity to others to get it. See you in WWDC… peace and love
Got an iPad Pro yesterday. It's pretty bloomy. Very noticeable compared to oled in the dark room. I also don't care, it's the best display I've ever seen.
People try so hard to throw shit at Apple, the display is near perfection. Of course there will be always defective units or some that bleed a tiny bit more but man, go look at it in person and stop believing badly taken pictures on the internet people.
Fwiw the blooming on very small text esp in RUclips, they still happen even on my iPad Pro 11 2018. Have you tested it out with iBooks/Kindle though? That’s one where the blooming was much pronounced. I have a suspicion it’s more of a software problem than a hardware one (or both, but can be mitigated enough with software tweaks).
This blooming effect comes from your eyss. If you cover up some part of bright things on your screen, you will notice the Glowing around this will disappear. I discovered this with my Note 10+ when it is booting with the white Samsung Logo on black background.
4:46 Yep, without a doubt it's there. I understand that all these extra backlights are actually something good... HOWEVER because of the inherent limitations of LED screens bad collateral effects may happen with generational improvements. Is good that the backlights at the rest at the screen aren't on, but when this makes so much obvious the ones that still are, it's really worth it? "Mini-LED" may work as an alternative for OLED, but not with this amount of backlights, it needs much more than this. Right now this screen isn't really ready.
I am now a bit torn as to whether I should replace my Ipad with a new one, because on my new Ipad these blooming effects are clearly visible (even with normal brightness). Yesterday I watched an episode of the mosquito coast series, and both at the beginning with white lettering and a black background and later in a scene where a bright lamp was turned on, the blooming was clearly recognizable. It was worst when an actor moved his hand over the lamp.
I just tried recreating the drawing on black test you did using the notes app and I noticed a lot of blooming around the UI elements (especially around the dock bar) that I couldn’t see in your video. Is it possible that some units have it worse than others?
Lol... blooming will always be there in all local dimming zones the only OLED display can so perfect black i rather get the mini led than edge lit and you see grey black
I bought the 2022 iPad pr 12.9 and for is it a big issue because I’m an artist and I’d like to do my drawings in a dark room with the lowest setting of the possible brightness settings. The blooming effect becomes also on hovering a brush in the display and you have a dark Gray area on the canvas while moving the Hoovers courser. First time I was thinking that my eyes are damaged but the pictures you’ve shown are similar to my experience that I’ve made so far. For Grafikdesigner is it a tough challenge to handle these bloom effect because we’re reacting on each color that is not part of the picture.
Thank you so much for this video!! I was freaking out that I had just dropped $1600 on an iPad that I wouldn’t be able to stand to use! These images still look great to my non-tech eye. What ever blooming that may be there is not significant enough to ruin my experience.... thank you fo letting me excited about my purchase again!!!
That blooming is most likely caused by the local dimming areas of the screen, similar to a newer LED HDTV. It will be most noticeable on moving high contrast scenes
I own an iPad Pro M1 12.9 and I love it and all that, but the blooming is actually terrible when in a dark environment. I watched the lg oled testing video and I noticed these big grey clouds glowing around the objects with black background. I tried to record it with my iPhone but it can’t catch that kind of contrast so you won’t see the blooming in a recorded video, you have to see it in real life because cameras can’t catch it. So I would actually consider another tablet if I was a professional, luckily though I’m not professional at all so I’m totally fine with it.
I also have the 12,9 Ipad Pro 2021 and i unfortunatly really have an issue with the Blooming. Especially when iam working with dark mode. Im thinking to return it.....
I received my ipad 12.9 yesterday. I watched a lot of videos on blooming issue before buying. I feel cheated. You say blooming would be an issue only if you watch it with max brightness in a pitch dark room. Well, I was watching yesterday with minimal brightness and blooming is so distracting and obvious. Especially visible with Netflix and RUclips interface. So I am returning it.
These exaggerated photos coming from the same people that said the 2020 MK wouldn’t work with the 2021 iPad Pro. Don’t believe everything you see on the internet people.
So how do u differentiate actual neon light glowing effect vs actual blooming that shouldn’t be there ? If everything glowing is considered blooming then that’s a ton in the End game movie where everyone’s shooting glowing or blooming laser beams
I can’t see blooming in daylight, but using my iPad at night in bed with no lights on, the blooming is MASSIVELY RAMPANT, seriously it’s insane how much it’s blooming… and that’s with brightness set to about 10%, so much so that when I watch that lg oled video you can see the mini leds cells turning on and off and blooming all over the screen constantly making the screen grey not black.
Literally just bought my iPad pro last night. And just about died when I saw this video title. But after watching this and looking hard at my iPad Pro. I don’t think it’s a serious issue.
Max misses the point again. TV sets with local dimming uses algorithm on per frame basis to dynamically map the contrast, for instance, they lower brightness in certain scenario to reduce blooming. TV processors do a lot more to make image better than an honest presentation. iPad and most HDR monitors don't do it because they expect videotographers use them as reference display.
@@allansh828 I am using it for mostly photo editing. Only some very light video editing. Nothing serious in the video side. I just want to the colors fairly accurate when I am not at my monitor.
Just got mine and there is a blooming issue. I am not using my iPad in a dark room either or with the brightness maxed out. It’s pretty bad. I might have to return it. Not sure if the ones sent to reviewers went through a stricter quality control but it’s there. Going to Apple tomorrow to compare screens.
You touched on a few things. Crappy exposure and using the brightness WAY too high for the environment. I use about 50% brightness and have had zero issues.
mine has the blooming issue, it’s not as bad as the photos online, but it’s there. it’s mostly only noticeable in the complete dark room and high contrast scenes. it’s not the glowing on the edges of bright objects against the black background that border me the most, but the haziness it causes during complex scenes. to be fair it’s totally normal for any display with FALD, my samsung QLED TV does the same just not as bad, and it only has like a hundred or so zones vs 2500. it also has a setting to control the intensity of the local dimming( allowing users to choose between sacrificing some of the near black details to get deeper black or sacrificing some black levels for a brighter picture. I hope apple will be implementing some sort of similar settings in the future or at least improve the algorithm used to address the issue. i have compared it with my tab s7+, cx oled and 2020 ipad pro, oled wins in dark room, mini led wins in bright room, same story as modern day TVs each has its own strength and weaknesses both are way better than the ips on the 2020 and older models.
I experienced blooming occasionally though, with white controls and the cursor on the screen on a black background. I think it's a software glitch, but it was enough to tip the scales for me. The iPad Pro feels much heavier and makes me want to use it less. So even though I think there's a bug in mine that a software update can fix, I'm sending it back because the extra weight doesn't outweigh the benefits of mini LED.
Just got mine yesterday. Watching a movie in the dark I noticed it pretty bad. Is this an isolated screen issue ? Should I exchange my iPad for another one? Or will all new iPad Pro 12.9’s suffer from this? Very noticeable pop in and out of bloom effect when switching to different screens. Hoping it’s a software issue that can be addressed cause it’s very annoying to see white, then a shade of bloom then crisp black.
@@dopemind8160 nah. I got kind of used to it. It’s kind of a drawback of the mini LED. The brothers and colors are worth the little bleed I notice while watching movies in the dark.
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I'm sure the iPad Pro 12.9 inch has blooming.
All local dimming zones will have blooming only a stupid user will complain for it. In addition if apple uses oled display nowhere it can go over 600 nits on hdr unlike with mini led the lcd can go up to 1500 nits
Look as bad as Pro XDR. So more dimming zone is not a silver bullet.
@@marklouieadame I’d rather have 600 nits with faster response time.
@@allansh828 why is the ipad pro a 60hz panel? Its a 120hz panel only the iphone are not 120hz panel
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Blooming in a pitch black room with maximum brightness looking at it sideways. You might as well add looking at it with one eye and shaking your head
Lmao ikr people are making a big deal out of nothing, just because it’s Apple.
@@rm-projects, Yup! It’s exactly like when people started talking about AirTags having stalking issues. They claimed that it was too easy to use it for stalking purposes, but they never talked about Tile and the Galaxy SmartTags, while them having the exact same issue!
@@danispringer probably cause you're not utilizing its full 1600nits brightness in pure dark room and burning your cornea in the meanwhile
@@rm-projects I got used to it in one day
@@mrchongyl He is already struggling a lot and you want to kill him now?
I absolutely love this channel because you guys listen to your audience. You don’t release boring unboxing videos , you release comparisons and in-depth issue analysis. Not to mention the quality shots and beautiful editing. I see no reason for watching other tech channels. Thank you guys!
I took one look at that pic and instantly knew it was shot on a phone lmao Of course that’ll look like a whole field of flowers blooming! 🤣
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Yup. Exactly!
@@nnnnnn3647 that’s why he put it in parentheses 🤦🏽♂️
@@greylawson6352 quotation marks
@@froznfire9531 I am with you, specially his brother Fadin is quite a blind fan. They do have nice comparison videos but they are usually partial towards Apple.
Yeah it has blooming effeccts I have it and you can only see it if there is no light and specifically the white color and specially in the note taking app with dark mode 🙂🙂 and you cant unsee it once you noticed it🙂🙂
To the people watching full brightness HDR content on a 12.9” iPad in a pitch black room:
Why are you doing this to your eyes?
Lol good point, at that point you’re burning out your retinas anyway 😀
Most people actually does this
Just look at people in the evening, the screen shines on their face like a torch
Ah yes the "it's too dark I can't see" people
@@dtibor5903 _ That’s crazy. In normal room light I set my 2020 Pro around 30-40 % brightness. If it’s pitch black turning it to 100% will burn your eyes.
Cameras can also create blooming that doesn’t even exist in real life.
You can take a photo of an OLED TV and you’ll see the difference between real life and the photo
So a picture on Reddit in not a proof of anything.
I have the new iPad and the issue is VERY noticeable in low ambient lighting or high brightness. There is also a purple tint when your view the screen at an angle. Overall this screen is okay but doesn't even come close to an OLED
@@TheMinimumPC In other words water is wet. The same thing can be said with OLED dominating Mini-LED displays. That aside this is still the best IPad Pro display and the most competitive Apple has been to a Samsung Tablet display.
@@TheMinimumPC well but the OLED colors are so bad compared to LCD
I see the difference on my iPhone 11 Pro max and iPhone 7+
@@TheMinimumPC yea that’s what I think so too. Oled is untouchable and only dumb Apple fanboys think this is a oled
I'm sorry but OLED has unlimited contrast and real true Black is good for eye I don't not think blooming in Mini Led is small problem !
You missed the actual use case where this becomes extremely noticable - dark mode + dark room with low brightness (which is how most people will use it in a dark room). The UI elements as you navigate between dark apps have a really legit bad border around them. E.g the white bar at the bottom has a 1.5cm thick square bloom around it. I believe it's a software issue unless Apple have lied about the screen specs but it is bad right now.
You should have drawn a white onion with the pen and turned up the display to see if you'd get a bloomin' onion.
This guy... this guy right here is a thinker
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Thanks bud, almost canceled the order for mine, I’ll go ahead and let it ship now and see for myself, it’ll definitely be going back though if it’s not up to par with the ultra premium price tag… I gonna have faith that this content is accurate…. Thanks…
EDIT… the blooming issues are actually real, and in some situations pretty terrible… I see it more when the brightness is turned down in a dimmer room rather than with the brightness up… the pictures people are showing are NOT just a camera effect, that’s exactly what I see with my eyes, it’s a dynamic range problem apparently, it’s not a contrast problem… by tuning the brightness up in your test you hid the problem, it’s more noticeable when the brightness is set where you’d actually use it…
I'm thinking of ordering one this weekend what's your personal thoughts did you receive it
Shocker: The internet blew an Apple issue out of proportion.
Remember the XR pixel density argument?
@@wyattb3138 yeah, that display is really bad...
@@vidpetrovic8907 Yep, shit was stupid AF.
@@Realnamenogimmicksdude I don’t know if ur being sarcastic or not but stop lying
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Every monitor/screen to a certain degree has blooming. Even the Apple’s XDR Monitor. Heck even the monitor’s that it’s up against that cost $20-30k that are used for professional industry work. This is obviously exaggeration from nitpickers trying to find fault in everything. Thanks Max for showing us actual tests and crazy scenarios that normal people wouldn’t even be doing.
As everyone tech literate will tell you, your comment is sheep to the highest level…but the name gives it away really
OLED got blooming? It’s Self-Emissive
@@jomsies yep. It depends on dimming zones on mini-led.
Not on AMOLED or OLED.
Still the problem with OLED is the Burn in...
@@TrioLOLGamers and OLED is very dim compared to Miniled. Samsung uses cheap OLED panels on the Galaxy Books but they're so dim that you can't use them outside.
So to recap, there's a tiny amount of bloom in extreme conditions and some people are over exaggerating.
Just because its apple
The blooming I've experienced is nowhere near the horrendous blooming on macrumors, but I found it quite noticeable on black screens with white objects, watching in the dark. The dealbreaker is that it's much heavier (to accommodate the display) and the extra weight makes it much harder to comfortably use the device.
@@obamtl I honestly couldn’t see any blooming atleast on this video
@@bjross82 in the reddit posts even vadim himself said that its an exaggeration
@@bjross82 It's definitely an exaggeration.
To all of you who are deciding whether to get an M1 12.9 iPad Pro, let me tell you that I watched these kind of RUclips videos and convinced myself blooming wouldn’t be that bad, oh boy was I wrong . Dark mode is just awful on this screen. Whenever there was a black screen with anything brilliant on it blooming was present . I could’ve lived with it if it had been just a little “glow”, but it was a 1-in glow around anything white. It was present at every brightness level in dark pitch rooms and partial black rooms. It is a shame such a nice and expensive device has this much of blooming.
I just returned mine today. Maybe it was just my unit but I won’t risk getting a replacement and having the same or worse blooming.
@skoubydoo which will not come out anytime soon since next Pros are gonna both still get that fallback shitty display 😵
"of course it's shot with an iPhone I can tell the qualities bad"
Shots fired!
Would get the same result from all smartphone cameras..xD
@@achyutarjun and even most if not all DSLRs in Auto-mode...
U apple haters can find any sentence and bend it to glorify android junkyard can't u?
If it was shot by an android the ipad would look like the sun
I have a 2021 iPad Pro 12.9” maxed out 2TB, etc, and I’ve had no bleeding or ‘blooming’ anywhere. It may be an issue from panel to panel but it probably depends on the lighting in a room, or the eyes of the user.
You wasted a ton of money if you can’t see the blooming.
If you see it and accept it as it is the way mini-led should be, that’s another story.
I bought the same one with the 5G. It should be coming next week for me. How do you like yours⁉️🤷🏻♂️
maybe only the 2TB variant that has better panels :p
@Tweed Penguin Nope, and mine to waste.
@@TechieBaby People see what they want to see. Compared to the 2018 pro it's everything I want. Its a worthy upgrade. There is no perfect technology.
“I don’t think anybody’s watching in pure black”
Me drawing at 3am:
Did you get the new iPad? I wanna use it for drawing too and the blooming and the gradient on the edge of the screen are making me wonder if I should just go for the 2020 instead
@@jessicatriana i ended up buying the 11” m1 , but only because they didnt have the 12.9 in store when I went and I needed a new one almost immediately. I honestly dont think the blooming is a huge issue. The mini led screen lets you get better whites and blacks, and I was really looking forward to it. Since I bought the 11” i cant stop thinking about how white isnt white and black like really dark blue. I still really want the 12.9 for my artwork lol
Also the gradient hardly takes up any screen space and really shouldn’t be an issue for your art work at all unless you just notice it all the time. To me, the blooming and shadow is a good trade for better color values and more power
@@j4der4de32 if it makes you feel any better I have a 2018 11” model and I looove the screen! The colors are really good.
I wanted to upgrade to a bigger screen but the shadow on the edge of the screen was putting me off. Seems like reviews are blowing the issue out of proportion, thanks for the advice! :)
Yea that image was way more extreme than what you actually see. Looks great to me.
True, I have the new IPad Pro and it’s the best display on an IPad ever and the most competitive they have ever been to Samsung Tablet displays. Someone did talk about slight blooming and small shadows at the edges of the display though.
@@ZackSNetwork yea I'm sure there is some small amounts, that's just the nature of mini led. Even the regular Liquid Retina looks fantastic.
I think the real question is: is OLed better than MicroLed? And should Appple use OLed next time?
Apple are said to be putting OLED in the next Air but keeping mini-led for the Pro which suggests mini-led is the superior display technology.
@@johnmansfield3317 No the next new Ipad Pro’s will both be OLED. OLED is the superior display technology all top end smartphones and TV’s are also OLED. Samsung is ditching Mini-LED next year and will make top end OLED TV’s from LG’s OLED displays. The only advantage of Mini-LED is brightness and no worries of burn in. OLED wins in all other aspects.
@@ZackSNetwork this is not true. Oled is not very far ahead of micro or nano led, and you conveniently left out by far the worst part of oled... burn in. It is a huge problem. Try playing a specific console game on an oled that has the static icons and borders, it will be burned into your TV permanently in little to no time. Also oled pixels lose their vibrance fairly quickly, couple of years and your screen will not look as good because the pixels have degraded. It is inevitable with organic leds. Also uneven wear, if you watch things with black bars, the pixels turned off will age less than the active pixels. Eventually you will see the actual bars being brighter than the rest. All of this has happened with every oled device I have ever owned
@@johnmansfield3317 I'm not convinced. OLed my have its downside when it comes to overall brightness outside in sunlight but the technology is beyond LCD. MiniLED is simply a small version that are very condensed and pack together. Money talks: Apple have been using cheaper parts when I comes to screen tech for years. Now miniLED may be in the middle of standard LCD and OLed. Note, Samsung is the top manufacturer of OLed for Apple and EVERY other major smartphone and tablet maker. So perhaps they want to disconnect themselves from Samsung like they did Intel. I would Google your suggested theory or ask around before jumping to conclusions.
speaking of display performance alone, MicroLED will be on par with OLED without the burn-in issue it will be more durable.
In terms of cost, MicroLED will be super expensive as it is hard to make super small LEDs packed together.
In terms of brightness and efficiency, OLED depends on the material used on the O. the best OLED Panel to date is S21 Ultra (Samsung’s own M11 panel, better than their E4 [E for export]). It has a max brightness of 1500nits and high power efficiency at high brightness
I did a few tests with my blooming issue. One of the tests is really revealing… I put three tiny white dots on a black background in the notes app. The bloom is super noticeable and makes a perfect 1 inch square around each dot. If I press my finger over the dot to completely cover it, the bloom square remains, so it’s definitely not an optical illusion. It’s exactly what it looks like in the photos you were showing from people with the same issue. (I can take a picture with my Sony A7SIII if you want a good example) If you look at the screen in a dark room, you start to see it everywhere. It’s definitely a bigger deal than it looks from the tests you were running. Granted your test were good for people who are concerned about how it looks with movies, but even as I type this in a dark room with the screen dimmed low, the bloom is super distracting. I had some really hight hopes for this screen and it seems it’s only delivering in daylight scenarios.
is it like a huge enough problem or is it something that doesn't really matter much?
@@kamranshahid4123 I would say it’s not a big deal in regular use. You only notice it in dark scenes when watching in pitch black.
@@JordanBurghoff oh no so no more DC movies?
Can you do a touch latency M1 vs IPad Pro 2020? I’m curious if there’s a difference
I don’t think there should be a difference... they both have a 120hz touch sample rate so it should be about the same! While they also both have a 240hz sample rate when used with an Apple Pencil.
@@ryry8327
Isn't it 240hz touch sample rate and 120hz refresh rate?
What's the touch samplig rate of the ipad m1?
I have the new iPad Pro
Blooming is CRAZY
Touchscreen does feel better…
@@RovexHD no, its only 240hz touch sample rate for the apple pencil
No display technology is perfect . Oled has screen burn ins and fun green lines and mini led have blooming
Micro LEDs are near perfect. The only downside is it’s a new and expensive tech.
@@bw4593 and don’t forget that oled screens are generally not as bright ast lcd or mini leds.
IPS has backlight bleed along with slow response times, and TN can be great... but manufacturers aren't applying the right tech to it so it usually appears in washed out low res combinations.
@@jackf1684 basically yes, I just simplified to make it shorter.
I wrote “LCD and Mini LED” as in “traditional LCD and newer Mini LED”.
Those amoles screens on androids I have seen have to acidy or cold tint to my taste. Even iPhone 11 pro. Sure I their blacks are stunning, vibrance is vibrant and etc.
So i will be really happy when new generation of phones with mini led screens come out.
@@MrMurmandramas Mini LED shows a lot of promise but then again really... I haven't complained about a 1000:1 contrast ratio on a consumer device ;-;
Something like an iPad Pro now has actual value believe it or not with the M1 Chip and also the Mini-LED display being as good as it is. But there's good IPS panels with 3000:1 contrast ratios and faster response times, I'm just waiting for manufacturers to use them. I wonder what these new panels cost compared to like what the MacBook/iPad already uses.
bro your hands must be massive
you're holding that ENTIRE iPad in 1 hand without an issue lmao
Can you see if there is a shadow on the edges of the display please.
there definitely is. I have the 12.9 iPad Pro m1 and there is a weird slight shadow around the entire edge of the iPad. its not too bad, but I noticed it the first 10 seconds of turning on the iPad. the 11 inch m1 doesn't have the issue
You can notice the shadow when the screen is displaying a solid color. For example when you open a safari webpage, which is mostly all white, you can see the shadow.
During a video or a movie, i dont think is noticeble
@@PM995 Something to do with its Mini-LED display I guess.
Yes my also showing shadow around the edges.
@@ZackSNetwork the problem is caused by the fact that there are not any mini led along the edges of the display, so the pixels that are located in that area look less bright, simply because there are no leds under that pixels to fully lit them.
The apple xdr 32" inch display, which uses a tecnology similar to mini led, has the same exact issue.
This means that is a tecnological limitation caused by the mini led, therefore is not fixable by any software update
Hi Max Tech, I find that you can actually see blooming when you see hdr videos in Netflix, which you can’t when watching an sdr video. And I find it quiet annoying.
First world problems: "my iPhone camera makes my iPad Pro bloom!"
ikr😂😂
Meanwhile starving Ethiopian children 😐
Who gives a shit you’re paying for it you get to complain
Lol!
I honestly don’t see any blooming whatsoever on mine, even in a pitch black room 🤷🏼♂️
Is it just my ipad? 😭
I returned mine. Blooming is bad, larger gap between the top glass and screen which also leads to shadowing on the borders. I also noticed ghosting of all motion which was terrible. As if the mini LEDs have too slow of a response time. Now we know why they left it out of the 11 inch. I’ll buy an iPad when they stop screwing around with this prehistoric technology and go proper OLED.
I'd still honestly rather use this beautiful Mini-LED display over any LCD display any day. idk why people are freaking out so much😂
Most of them are paid Samsung trolls, so… 🤷🏻♂️
Well we are paying a premium for the screen, it better be good
@@XMGi00 sure dude this is an expensive pro product it’s worth mentioning
Some people expected it to be more competitive with OLED that’s why. Along with the massive power the M1 brings but, not enough features due to current IOS.
Yeah fr when literally you could say that the old display has full screen blooming since it doesn’t have any dimming zones so you can’t even get any true blacks anywhere..
That is expected, it's not an issue. Are people actually expecting OLED level contrast? LOL!
Yes, mini LED displays have a little blooming but much less than conventional LED displays. The blooming issues are clearly exaggerated.
Well they are the ones who made us think it is OLED level based on the contrast specs and explanation.
@@shashank1630 ikr
Yes because everyone said it'll have oled level contrast
@@salihalraziqi4963 Who actually said that? Never heard of it.
Apple did the right thing, every iPhone and OLED TV i have has some burn in. Some very little and some a lot. my iPhone 11 pro max has burn in already. I definitely wont be getting anything OLED again aside from iPhone because i have no choice there.
I just ordered my second 12.9 Min Led foe my wife after getting mine yesterday. Hope enough of you cancel after these nonsense “blooming” reviews so I can get that July ship date moved up!
Mine shipped way faster than it was supposed to xD now im thinking this is why! Lol
It’s absolutely an issue and incredibly distracting. I sadly had to return mine.
Thanks guys! So in depth for how fast you must have made this. I have the new iPad and personally I am okay with the bloom considering how amazing the screen looks. The blacks and rich colors next to the 2020 model are insane. We ran the LG video side to side in a dark room and it’s crazy how good the new display is.
Unbelievable that he failed capture the incredible blooming which ruins my writing experience in dark mode every night. It is more extreme in a dark or semi-dark room with about 10-20% screen brightness.
@@jub8891doesnt matter why he does it, if he pays for mini led he doesnt expect that blooming. Me neither thats why i am here
Oh wow could you please share more about this? I am choosing between 11 and 12.9 and do intend to write at night. Actually, one of the reasons I wanted 12.9 because the black is darker
The real crazy thing is the difference from 2020 to 2021 and the iPhone 12 compared to 2021 iPad Pro
I can’t even believe it…
I bought the 11 M2, and won the 50% money back... then I am thinking about changing it for the 12.9. Is the blooming that bad that I should avoid this change and keep the 11?
Don’t worry the iPad Pros m3 are coming early May. They have Oled displays with the sizes 11 inch and 13 inch. The Oled will fix the blooming issue.
I appreciated this video. Not sure how many 12.9” iPad Pro buyers aren’t at least using dark mode at night (in dark or dimply rooms) which is the worst case scenario for this display. I solely use dark mode. Happy with the screen except for in dark or dimply lit rooms.
Please show using stock apps, like Settings, Files and Reminders in dark mode with normal brightness settings in a dark room. Something is up with the way non video apps are being displayed. The blooming is way worse. It actually appeared resolved right after the update to 14.6 earlier today but has since returned. I do think their are some improvements Apple can make to how it is controlling the local dimming zones in their stock apps (not during photo or video playback) with expected (normal) screen brightness.
This video made me feel better about mine coming in the next week. Great tests!
Blooming comes with the territory of this kind of backlighting. People should have done some research, and they would have found out that this kind of backlighting has this kind of issue, and it's not really an issue if properly adjusted.
Could you compare the 11 inch screen vs the 12.9 inch screen? See if in the dark the 11inch lcd screen blooms more since it has less dimming zones
I noticed blooming for the first time while watching stuff on my iPad Pro in the dark. It was definitely noticeable on black backgrounds with white images/text, but compared to the 2020 iPad Pro screen (which just looks grey overall in the dark) it’s a huge improvement. Most of the time, the blooming that you get isn’t much of an issue in normal lit rooms, or if your brightness isn’t maxed out in darker settings.
In his review, Brad Colbow pointed out that the screen has a shadow round the edge, and that there is a bigger gap between the glass and the screen below it, which makes it worse for drawing/painting than the 2020 model. Thoughts on this?
Can you link me . If the there is bigger gap between glass and display it def makes a big difference for artists who makes drawings with a lot of details
@@droo3010 ruclips.net/video/Y0MFhjCmA8Y/видео.html - starts at 4.30.
Just got mine and I can see it when I'm in settings, in the dark, with medium brightness. Not as bad as pictures online made it look but it's there. Still happy with it, everything looks bright and beautiful.
I hate my 2021 iPad Pro 12.9! Turn off lights in dark room. In RUclips click any video, then you saw huge problems in lording screen! Love you guys videos all the time 👍
The takeaway? Everything looks superb, really superb! Can we be done with this now., please? Thank you for taking the time to explain things, I really appreciate it. This is a 99% camera issue.
I think either there's significant variation, or you're minimizing the issue. Mine blooms a lot, it doesn't seem to be a problem in lightroom, but I do watch videos in bed and even with the screen brightness turned down it's obviously blooming into the black bars and around the time.
lol no tv in your room😵
Bro you need to increasing the brightness to above 70%. I have this issue while brightness in more that 80% and believe me it’s disaster if you see it with yourself. Believe me it’s not Exaggeration
I use 12.9 iPad for 2 weeks now, I can clearly see blooming most of the time on almost every screen… considering returning it as this technology isn’t worth it
"Do you guys see that?" No because you cant use a tripod and slow the footage down. Didn't see any issue you mentioned via video, maybe in person you can. Seems like an overblown "issue".
Its quite obvious if you have completely blck with small pure white colours however outside of these very specificconditions i didnt even know it was there
I mean, sometimes people are exaggerating and it’s very frustrating. We all know that iPad Pro 12.9 M1 is a beast, the screen is phenomenal, I like the color and I don’t have any issues with mine. For those who want to return theirs, be quick, you’ll give the opportunity to others to get it. See you in WWDC… peace and love
@Tweed Penguin Lol. Very funny. Enjoy your beast, I’ll enjoy mine.
Got an iPad Pro yesterday. It's pretty bloomy. Very noticeable compared to oled in the dark room. I also don't care, it's the best display I've ever seen.
Please compare the speakers when you compare the 11 and 12.9 inch
This is a perfect example that shows the computational photography is not that good, at least in a situation like this.
Yep
I noticed you didn’t turn off true tune
Best comparison video ever!
People try so hard to throw shit at Apple, the display is near perfection. Of course there will be always defective units or some that bleed a tiny bit more but man, go look at it in person and stop believing badly taken pictures on the internet people.
This is expected with this type of display tech. It’s definitely there if you look for it. I still love mine :)
Fwiw the blooming on very small text esp in RUclips, they still happen even on my iPad Pro 11 2018.
Have you tested it out with iBooks/Kindle though? That’s one where the blooming was much pronounced. I have a suspicion it’s more of a software problem than a hardware one (or both, but can be mitigated enough with software tweaks).
Hasn’t bothered me watching movies and using it for regular stuff.
watching hdr movies at night filmed in darker environments/dark backgrounds the blooming effort is definitely messing with my eyes.
That’s if u turn the brightness to the maximum which u shouldn’t in the first place for ur eyes
This blooming effect comes from your eyss. If you cover up some part of bright things on your screen, you will notice the Glowing around this will disappear. I discovered this with my Note 10+ when it is booting with the white Samsung Logo on black background.
4:46 Yep, without a doubt it's there.
I understand that all these extra backlights are actually something good... HOWEVER because of the inherent limitations of LED screens bad collateral effects may happen with generational improvements. Is good that the backlights at the rest at the screen aren't on, but when this makes so much obvious the ones that still are, it's really worth it? "Mini-LED" may work as an alternative for OLED, but not with this amount of backlights, it needs much more than this. Right now this screen isn't really ready.
I am now a bit torn as to whether I should replace my Ipad with a new one, because on my new Ipad these blooming effects are clearly visible (even with normal brightness). Yesterday I watched an episode of the mosquito coast series, and both at the beginning with white lettering and a black background and later in a scene where a bright lamp was turned on, the blooming was clearly recognizable. It was worst when an actor moved his hand over the lamp.
lol the newer one all have oled.. youu might need to check out the lcd ipad
I just tried recreating the drawing on black test you did using the notes app and I noticed a lot of blooming around the UI elements (especially around the dock bar) that I couldn’t see in your video. Is it possible that some units have it worse than others?
Lol... blooming will always be there in all local dimming zones the only OLED display can so perfect black i rather get the mini led than edge lit and you see grey black
Thanks
I think it’s impressive tech. It’s not an OLED and that means it doesn’t have burn in or bad color shift off axis. It’s a compromise.
I bought the 2022 iPad pr 12.9 and for is it a big issue because I’m an artist and I’d like to do my drawings in a dark room with the lowest setting of the possible brightness settings. The blooming effect becomes also on hovering a brush in the display and you have a dark Gray area on the canvas while moving the Hoovers courser. First time I was thinking that my eyes are damaged but the pictures you’ve shown are similar to my experience that I’ve made so far. For Grafikdesigner is it a tough challenge to handle these bloom effect because we’re reacting on each color that is not part of the picture.
Thank you so much for this video!! I was freaking out that I had just dropped $1600 on an iPad that I wouldn’t be able to stand to use! These images still look great to my non-tech eye. What ever blooming that may be there is not significant enough to ruin my experience.... thank you fo letting me excited about my purchase again!!!
and how was it?
@@manuelpalacios7596 she bought it, hated it and committed suicide. Blooming kills people. Be warned.
Thank you! I feel better about my first iPad purchase now.
That blooming is most likely caused by the local dimming areas of the screen, similar to a newer LED HDTV. It will be most noticeable on moving high contrast scenes
My Galaxy Note + has a little bit of blooming sometimes. In the beginning it was annoying.
I own an iPad Pro M1 12.9 and I love it and all that, but the blooming is actually terrible when in a dark environment. I watched the lg oled testing video and I noticed these big grey clouds glowing around the objects with black background. I tried to record it with my iPhone but it can’t catch that kind of contrast so you won’t see the blooming in a recorded video, you have to see it in real life because cameras can’t catch it. So I would actually consider another tablet if I was a professional, luckily though I’m not professional at all so I’m totally fine with it.
Reminds me of iPad Pro 2018's JerryRigs video with the iPad bending. As if I'll be trying to bend my iPad. This is no different. Nobody will see this.
Apple: You're looking at it wrong
I also have the 12,9 Ipad Pro 2021 and i unfortunatly really have an issue with the Blooming. Especially when iam working with dark mode. Im thinking to return it.....
everything is ignorable, and after a while, you will forget about anything like this ever existed
I received my ipad 12.9 yesterday. I watched a lot of videos on blooming issue before buying. I feel cheated. You say blooming would be an issue only if you watch it with max brightness in a pitch dark room. Well, I was watching yesterday with minimal brightness and blooming is so distracting and obvious. Especially visible with Netflix and RUclips interface. So I am returning it.
Best comparison channel ever!!
please compare iPad Pro 2021 vs Samsung galaxy tab S7+ please so that I can decide the future tab is better to purchase.
These exaggerated photos coming from the same people that said the 2020 MK wouldn’t work with the 2021 iPad Pro. Don’t believe everything you see on the internet people.
So how do u differentiate actual neon light glowing effect vs actual blooming that shouldn’t be there ? If everything glowing is considered blooming then that’s a ton in the End game movie where everyone’s shooting glowing or blooming laser beams
I can’t see blooming in daylight, but using my iPad at night in bed with no lights on, the blooming is MASSIVELY RAMPANT, seriously it’s insane how much it’s blooming… and that’s with brightness set to about 10%, so much so that when I watch that lg oled video you can see the mini leds cells turning on and off and blooming all over the screen constantly making the screen grey not black.
I have this issue on my 12 pro max. Do I need to bring this to center to be replace the oled sceen?
Literally just bought my iPad pro last night. And just about died when I saw this video title. But after watching this and looking hard at my iPad Pro. I don’t think it’s a serious issue.
Max misses the point again. TV sets with local dimming uses algorithm on per frame basis to dynamically map the contrast, for instance, they lower brightness in certain scenario to reduce blooming. TV processors do a lot more to make image better than an honest presentation. iPad and most HDR monitors don't do it because they expect videotographers use them as reference display.
@@allansh828 I am using it for mostly photo editing. Only some very light video editing. Nothing serious in the video side. I just want to the colors fairly accurate when I am not at my monitor.
Just got mine and there is a blooming issue. I am not using my iPad in a dark room either or with the brightness maxed out. It’s pretty bad. I might have to return it. Not sure if the ones sent to reviewers went through a stricter quality control but it’s there. Going to Apple tomorrow to compare screens.
You touched on a few things. Crappy exposure and using the brightness WAY too high for the environment. I use about 50% brightness and have had zero issues.
mine has the blooming issue, it’s not as bad as the photos online, but it’s there. it’s mostly only noticeable in the complete dark room and high contrast scenes. it’s not the glowing on the edges of bright objects against the black background that border me the most, but the haziness it causes during complex scenes. to be fair it’s totally normal for any display with FALD, my samsung QLED TV does the same just not as bad, and it only has like a hundred or so zones vs 2500. it also has a setting to control the intensity of the local dimming( allowing users to choose between sacrificing some of the near black details to get deeper black or sacrificing some black levels for a brighter picture. I hope apple will be implementing some sort of similar settings in the future or at least improve the algorithm used to address the issue. i have compared it with my tab s7+, cx oled and 2020 ipad pro, oled wins in dark room, mini led wins in bright room, same story as modern day TVs each has its own strength and weaknesses both are way better than the ips on the 2020 and older models.
Watching this on my iPad Pro 12.9 2021, love the display. I have no blooming issues.
The shadow on the edge of the screen,you know,reminds me the lower-end phone using the cheap lcd many years ago
Right? That's another thing that's bothering me in the videos, but I'm not sure how noticeable it is irl
I experienced blooming occasionally though, with white controls and the cursor on the screen on a black background. I think it's a software glitch, but it was enough to tip the scales for me. The iPad Pro feels much heavier and makes me want to use it less. So even though I think there's a bug in mine that a software update can fix, I'm sending it back because the extra weight doesn't outweigh the benefits of mini LED.
Duh, if you still see the blooming effect or worse? You should get you eyes check.
People: I need mini led
Apple: Sure
People: Lawsuit for blooming on mini led
Apple: I know. But you asked for it.
Who’re the idiots who wanted mini-led?! We want the goddamn Oled not that makeshift shit.
Just got mine yesterday. Watching a movie in the dark I noticed it pretty bad. Is this an isolated screen issue ? Should I exchange my iPad for another one? Or will all new iPad Pro 12.9’s suffer from this? Very noticeable pop in and out of bloom effect when switching to different screens. Hoping it’s a software issue that can be addressed cause it’s very annoying to see white, then a shade of bloom then crisp black.
Have you solved it/ got used to it bro?
@@dopemind8160 nah. I got kind of used to it. It’s kind of a drawback of the mini LED. The brothers and colors are worth the little bleed I notice while watching movies in the dark.
Nahhhh... I don't see any issues man! It looks like some Samsung Tablets fanboys out there are just BLOOMING with ENVY!
Why would samsung fanboy buy apple stuff to post about it?
@@sagunmdr Why would one person order the extermination of millions in order to have a "Master race"? That's what humans do, nonsense stuff.
LCD for Longevity
OLED for Power Saving and better blacks.
Isn’t OLED so uh ya, there’s gonna be some blooming
OLED is old tech.
@@ofensatul mini led is even older
My samsung oled tablet have same blooming, even worse..
@@akisora535 u don't know how oled works then
Mini-LED is not OLED, is is more similar to LCD. Micro-LED is similar to OLED.
I found my iPad blooming sometimes, that what led me to this video. What do you think about the newer ipads