marcelo garcia vs kron gracie 2nd part

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  • @pinzgauerwaymaker530
    @pinzgauerwaymaker530 10 лет назад +10

    Its like Marcelo gives Kron his neck on purpose just to proof he can't choke him.

  • @Bill-Butcher
    @Bill-Butcher 10 лет назад +23

    The son of the best bjj player ever vs 1 of the top 5 bjj players ever, you couldn't make this shit up, amazing... high level stuff, brilliant.

    • @madbowler6
      @madbowler6 10 лет назад

      Rickson Gracie is not anywhere close to being the best bjj player ever. any of the modern guys today on a bad day could beat Rickson in his prime on his best day. he might be a vale tudo legend, but that was back in the day before no one but the Gracies was actually training. I don't buy all this "Rickson's bjj walks on water" crap for a second, especially in sport jj.

    • @Bill-Butcher
      @Bill-Butcher 10 лет назад +2

      madbowler6
      Fuck sport JJ, guys playing for points rather than for the win goes against the very idea of JJ... Rickson in his prime in a time limitless submittion only BJJ match would tool everyone of these fake cunts you see today, he was on another level, every guy that has ever rolled with him says the same.

    • @jbo4547
      @jbo4547 10 лет назад +3

      madbowler6 Well if you did some research you would find out that a lot of high level guys have said that Rickson is the best. So i guess you know more than the best of the best who have rolled with him huh?

    • @madbowler6
      @madbowler6 10 лет назад +1

      wow that was probably the most impressive display of kool-aid drinking I think I've ever seen. Keenan Cornelius would tie Rickson (in his prime) in a knot in about 35 seconds flat, time limit or no, points or no. you want to imagine what Rodolfo would do to him? lol
      I'm well aware of all the fanboys and fighters who say Rickson was the best ever. they're just being respectful. in a few years, people will probably be saying the same thing about Marcelo Garcia. sure, Marcelo is a badass, but he was beaten several times. the further a great fighter is from his competitive days, the greater his legend becomes. this is nothing new.
      oh, Marcelo is another one who would smash Rickson at his best.

    • @Bill-Butcher
      @Bill-Butcher 9 лет назад

      madbowler6
      Hahaha
      Thanks I needed that... good one

  • @TheKrazyLobster
    @TheKrazyLobster 10 лет назад +30

    Holy. Shit. That match was absolutely BEAUTIFUL. Kron is usually very upset when he loses, specially by points, but even he appeared "less-annoyed" in that match. I think even Rickson respects Marcelo's absolute high level jiu jitsu. I mean, the guy is a fucking legend. Given Kron's age and relative lack of experience (if compared to Marcelo), the boy was awesome. Like, AWESOME. If there were no points, if the match was submission only... I hope one day we see that. Metamoris would be perfect for Kron vs Marcelo.

    • @renatol585
      @renatol585 10 лет назад +3

      marcelo already tapped kron

    • @followufollowme
      @followufollowme 10 лет назад

      renato l when?

    • @nicholasrisen750
      @nicholasrisen750 10 лет назад +1

      You can't not like Marcelo... He has a non stop attacking style. Best in the world IMO.

    • @Jpeterson7
      @Jpeterson7 8 лет назад

      +Krazy Lobster Kron would submit him now. Marcelo spent the last portion of this fight defending, not attacking.

    • @aper422
      @aper422 7 лет назад +1

      +Jpeterson7 I don't understand how kron lost this. He went for all the subs. By 2013 adcc kron would've beaten marcelo garcia for sure. It was obvious who was improving. I think marcelo retired because he knew kron was coming up big.

  • @awlach8
    @awlach8 8 лет назад +6

    Gunnar Nelson and Coach Kavanagh in the background!

  • @mathewmarcus9861
    @mathewmarcus9861 10 лет назад +3

    marcelo is the best grappler in the world. he's fucking amazing

  • @greasebob
    @greasebob 11 лет назад +1

    Like Rickson and Royler's shirts - "Ice Cream Kron" lol. Also, notice the respect Marcelo gives to Rickson, bowing to him when he shakes his hand. MG is pure class...

  • @jimnail100
    @jimnail100 10 лет назад +4

    anyone else notice gunnar nelson sitting down in the background ?

  • @YamaRider93
    @YamaRider93 11 лет назад

    Kron has honestly had an absurd amount of pressure put upon his shoulders since a young age, and personally I think he's done a damn good job of staying humble and trying to meet most of those expectations. He's still young though, and he will continue to grow without a doubt. This was a great match, and there is absolutely no shame in losing to Marcelo. Marcelo is a BJJ wizard as well.

  • @BobBelson
    @BobBelson 11 лет назад

    That was excellent match. Both guys fought hard. Both guys tried to win, both guys had good moments- Garcia- Sharp takedowns and great guard pass attempts. Kron - great guillotine advantage and good arm /shoulder lock attempts. Super entertaining Bravo !!!!

  • @tacodaddy4309
    @tacodaddy4309 4 года назад

    Father and Son relationship is beautiful to watch.

  • @SeanX1981
    @SeanX1981 12 лет назад +1

    Kron pulled full guard and held Marcelo tight to nullify any offense. It may look as if Marcelo had no answer, but he got the takedowns and was working to pass the whole time. Kron simply was holding him down until the guillotine attempts.

  • @kevineslee
    @kevineslee 11 лет назад +1

    Wow. Rickson and Marcelo in one building

  • @tbnice1966
    @tbnice1966 12 лет назад +1

    awesome match if marcelo cant finish you you are awesome period

  • @toshio1278
    @toshio1278 11 лет назад

    u said it best. marcelo is the epitome of class.

  • @itantht
    @itantht 12 лет назад +1

    they are both young so you really can't use that argument. Marcelo has alot more passion and it shows on and off the mat.

  • @wildcat31772
    @wildcat31772 10 лет назад +4

    @WM of course Rickson supports him.. he's his dad lol. That was a great match to watch. Kron went for a lot of subs. marcelo didn't though unfortunately that i really recall.

  • @buddahshanti4699
    @buddahshanti4699 7 лет назад

    Marcelo loves Jiu jitsu more than anyone else , his quote , that level of Jiu jitsu is so difficult to win against, would love to see those guys roll with gis on , options o options ✌️😁✌️

  • @marccelo
    @marccelo 12 лет назад

    Muito bom, teria como colocar a parte 1

  • @sylver76
    @sylver76 11 лет назад

    Kron did not control the shoulder, so Marcello got on his feet and pushed his head, relieving the pressure on his throat. Then he used the space created to sneak his hands in and grab Kron's hands. When he got back down, he was holding tight on the hands and working progressively his head out of the choke.

  • @MRGgetmerkd
    @MRGgetmerkd 12 лет назад

    for kron gracies time its gonna be very hard to be at the top like his father there is just so much competition rite now..jeff glover,joel tudor, mendes brothers,marcelo garcia, ryan hall, leo veira, and so much more...but i do believe he will soon be at the top, he is very young but so are alot of other great Bjj practioners

  • @utah185
    @utah185 12 лет назад

    Man, that just shows you it is important to have really good wrestling...

  • @nitroblitz
    @nitroblitz 10 лет назад +1

    Marcelo Garcia is 1 of 3 people on this planet who could have gotten out of that Guillotine!

  • @dusanmilosevic5041
    @dusanmilosevic5041 12 лет назад

    It was actually because the mat was very slippery, as Marcelo explained in his post interview. He noticed that, and exploited to take the Kron down.

  • @the_arm_bar
    @the_arm_bar 10 лет назад +1

    Its kinda fucked how the points system disregards that Kron was way more offensive from the guard and more submission attempts. Marcelo got the takedowns and stayed on top but Id personally give it to Kron for his agression.

  • @nenzonenzo
    @nenzonenzo 12 лет назад

    because he knew that was his only chance to beat Marcelo. He was thinking that even if by some small miracle he did manage the sweep.. deep down inside; he knew Marcelo would just get out and sweep/something else him. This thought process is evidenced by the match itself.

  • @SeanX1981
    @SeanX1981 12 лет назад +1

    Marcelo has beaten Kron every time they've fought. Most of the time by submission.

  • @eashkena
    @eashkena 12 лет назад

    wow i bet marcelo was lightheaded at the end. you see him kinda stumble before he extends his hand for a handshake.

  • @Rafael-gw4eq
    @Rafael-gw4eq 10 лет назад

    I don't know why people, in general, worry about Kron's feellings after him loosing his matches, He is always upset, and this is a problem only himself can deal with. Marcelo even tryed to touch Kron's hands in the end of the match, but it seem like Kron didn't give a shit about it.

  • @TheDanofEarth
    @TheDanofEarth 12 лет назад

    Marcelo was conserving energy for his next matches. :D

  • @AceofDlamonds
    @AceofDlamonds 11 лет назад +1

    Another level? in what way? IT's not like Rickson's been living under a rock for 18 years. Plus, large, rudimentary movements of the basics aren't suddenly nullified in this "new era," if somebody is legendary in application, as Rickson is, they can still kick ass. Remember that Rickson was 7 years older and practically retired than a prime Royler when he tapped him at least twice in no-Gi, and tapped him everytime in every stage demo they held.

  • @ofensiv111
    @ofensiv111 11 лет назад

    And the winner on math number 2 ... Andre Galvao ! (Aplauses)

  • @Kurdaehe1
    @Kurdaehe1 10 лет назад

    otima luta, queria ver uma revanche :)

  • @tomson11
    @tomson11 12 лет назад

    Is that Rickson with the cap at the end?

  • @Kaysersoze86
    @Kaysersoze86 12 лет назад

    think about it.....he thought he can tap him but the time was nearly over and thats the reason he should take "the white belt move". Its more save.

  • @Rafale061
    @Rafale061 10 лет назад

    ADCC is just so cool!

  • @Wsmokeclears
    @Wsmokeclears 10 лет назад

    Rickson looked like he was ready to fight haha

  • @aphony11
    @aphony11 12 лет назад

    @ipv4 Marcelo is a genius, and it seems that you know a bit about grappling so you should know if anyone else was put in that same situation they would have tapped for sure. That's where the genius of Marcelo comes in, he knew exactly what to do which is why he didn't tap, it may have been close but in the end it didn't go through. Plus there's no almosts in Jiu Jitsu, " I almost passed his guard" or "I almost submitted him" it's either you did or you didn't.

  • @paulbanner9011
    @paulbanner9011 10 лет назад

    excellent point

  • @MP-jb4dg
    @MP-jb4dg 6 лет назад

    2 feras!!!

  • @kanguesso
    @kanguesso 12 лет назад

    @aphony11 So when Roger Gracie broke Jacare's arm with an armbar because Jacare simply refused to tap, it wouldn't be accurate if Roger said, "i almost had him, i broke his arm but he didn't tap?"

  • @11vinci
    @11vinci 10 лет назад +3

    Gunnar Nelson siting.

  • @sandrorato69
    @sandrorato69 12 лет назад

    Obrigado, thanks, Arigatoo...

  • @PraiseBeToTheMostHigh
    @PraiseBeToTheMostHigh 11 лет назад

    They should rematch this for the next Metamoris..

  • @truemanc
    @truemanc 12 лет назад

    Kron is going to be like his dad one day.... he will for sure... its just not his time right now... Marcelo is a genius on the mat and just too much for Kron at the moment... but Krons time will come... imo. Krons biggest wepon is time... he is still young.

  • @SeanX1981
    @SeanX1981 12 лет назад

    Gets owned by Marcelo Garcia unless he grabs clothes.

  • @antimatterion
    @antimatterion 12 лет назад

    Kron is a relatively new black belt whereas Marcello is in the peak of his game. Give Kron 3-4 more years and he'll bulldoze over just about anyone! Kron also looks like the fitter, stronger athlete and in MMA I'm sure he'd take Marcello!

  • @Drumzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    @Drumzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 10 лет назад +1

    Tough shoes to fill for sure.

  • @Kaysersoze86
    @Kaysersoze86 12 лет назад

    Kron should take the sweep to the mount at 0:46 instead of holding the guillotine.

  • @diruscruciatus
    @diruscruciatus 12 лет назад

    Marcelo Garcia started the car!

  • @ipv4
    @ipv4 12 лет назад

    @truemanc
    Yes, Marcelo was a genius but he did not do much against Kron while kron almost submitted him per a marcel garcia interview where he admitted to tapping or going out at any second.

  • @rathoz1
    @rathoz1 11 лет назад

    Kron would win even more if he cared more about points. He wants the submission every time.

  • @7thvenom
    @7thvenom 12 лет назад

    @leothephantom7 This is very true MARCELO never plays for points but he was against Kron !!!

  • @cabalofdemons
    @cabalofdemons 10 лет назад

    Kron is great, but no Rickson. Rickson's BJJ is fluid like water and hard like cement. Kron is blessed to have Rickson as his father, but that doesn't mean he'll inherit his talents. Kron's advantage is that time is on his side.

  • @HavendaleBlvd80
    @HavendaleBlvd80 10 лет назад

    Scoring at adcc seems like it could improve.

  • @MIT2004
    @MIT2004 12 лет назад

    @massnerder1 he wasnt stating an opinion he was stating his opinion as a fact. so he got own. i would love to see marcelo vs rener or his older brother w/e his name

  • @BobBelson
    @BobBelson 11 лет назад

    Rickson was the greatest empty hand MMA fighter of the 80s Anyone who doubts that -give me a name and show me the tape. . Rickson was fighting guys that on any occasion could be biting eye gouging groin grabbing fish hooking and more. His dad had him fight adults as a teenager. Do I think he could win the BJJ worlds now ? No . Do I care . No. He was and always will be the man. His sons stepped up as well .Kron went even distance with Marcelo who is the best sport player on the planet.

  • @ipv4
    @ipv4 12 лет назад

    @aphony11
    Yea, there is no "almost" in bjj but you miss point by even saying that. The point was that only kron held his own against the air jordan of bjj.

  • @bbs02468
    @bbs02468 11 лет назад

    that's true.

  • @wrybread
    @wrybread 12 лет назад

    Hmm, I wonder why this white belt level move didn't occur to him? /sarcasm

  • @mrejpeguero
    @mrejpeguero 10 лет назад +2

    Huh? Rickson was on pride. Rickson mma record is 11-0, he retired after his son die.

    • @vanessaeluciano5335
      @vanessaeluciano5335 10 лет назад +1

      11a0 kkkkkkkkk lutando com um monte de leigo corria do marcos ruas e sacuraba osssss

  • @SeanX1981
    @SeanX1981 12 лет назад

    I would pay to see this fight. Although as of right now, Marcelo would win. I would like to see them both in their prime rolling no gi.

  • @GreenDistantStar
    @GreenDistantStar 12 лет назад

    Is there a BJJ'er anywhere on earth that wouldn't want to see Marcelo and Rickson roll?

  • @RaulRamos-vl9if
    @RaulRamos-vl9if 7 лет назад

    Marcelo he is good.

  • @pleasethee
    @pleasethee 12 лет назад

    CAN'T WAIT TILL MARCELO MEETS JOHN DANAHER PROTEGE BRIAN GLICK. HE IS DONE.

  • @SeanX1981
    @SeanX1981 12 лет назад

    No need to be so harsh. A lot is expected of Kron. He might not love BJJ as much as Marcelo, in fact I KNOW he doesn't. Passion counts for a lot. He was most likely forced into it because he is a Gracie and his father was the best BJJ fighter until Marcelo showed up. Lots of pressure. Kron is doing very well at this point.

  • @dreamextreme7
    @dreamextreme7 11 лет назад

    I actually think Kron is quite different from his dad. unfortunately kron has an arrogance problem. its not his fault for sure. but ...

  • @aphony11
    @aphony11 12 лет назад

    @kanguesso Yeah pretty much, if you would rather break your arm than tap then mentally you are far from tapping out. So in a sense Roger wasn't even close to winning.

  • @fishingtwister
    @fishingtwister 12 лет назад

    @tomson11 yes

  • @tangoexperiment
    @tangoexperiment 12 лет назад

    @nodirbekable marcelo was in his guard so he was trying to pass not throw out subs

  • @vanessaeluciano5335
    @vanessaeluciano5335 10 лет назад +1

    O rickison não lutava,o filho dele é isso dai só ganha de quem não é ninguém pois se ponhe para lutar com alguem de expressão perde , familia gracie que só aguio na hora certa depois parou , com e seção do Roger gracie rapaz humilde , e que fez historia com kimono osssss

    • @Perescapixaba
      @Perescapixaba 10 лет назад

      Alguém faça o favor de explicar para esse senhor quem é o Marcelo Garcia.

  • @Cameron72737
    @Cameron72737 10 лет назад

    Points shouldn't matter

  • @DJRicardoHenriquez
    @DJRicardoHenriquez 11 лет назад

    Most of this fight Marcelo was trying to get out of his guard. Kron was always working submissions. Oh, I'm sorry, he passed his guard for 10 seconds. We have a winner. It's clear who was the predator in this match.

  • @Lescouflair
    @Lescouflair 12 лет назад

    Now Kron has to work on his takedowns, he had the most submission attempts. Master several takedowns and he would have won

  • @aper422
    @aper422 10 лет назад

    kron can beat marcelo today. kron has gotten alot better. he already one this years adcc and will soon be good enough to win the absolutes.

  • @s0cializa
    @s0cializa 12 лет назад

    Wait. When and how did Marcelo Garcia win?

  • @luvDirtyROCK
    @luvDirtyROCK 10 лет назад

    This video is great and all but where is part 1? Or am I retarded, because the only other part 1 of kron vs Marcelo im finding is actually mislabeled because its roussimar palhares, not kron.

    • @Kalesauce
      @Kalesauce 10 лет назад +2

      It's not mislabeled you just don't have patience. It's 8 mins into that video that starts off wit Palhares.

  • @RowdyGrunt
    @RowdyGrunt 12 лет назад

    Strength is but one tool in the box. But more to your point, you can see that the strength didn't win him this match.

  • @raulpoza1055
    @raulpoza1055 11 лет назад

    You are privilegiated one you heard a lot . The truth is MG is a beast and Rickson is a "legend"

  • @hazelhughes4338
    @hazelhughes4338 10 лет назад

    Gunnar Nelson and his dad in the background

  • @paulbanner9011
    @paulbanner9011 10 лет назад

    rickson never entered the ufc or pride or strikeforce or anything. so all we say about rickson is heresay. (he fought in pride but he fought that japanese gas station attendent guy)

  • @PraiseBeToTheMostHigh
    @PraiseBeToTheMostHigh 11 лет назад

    @kanguesso it's not bullshit if u give it some thought , calling "keep it playful" bullshit is like calling master Helio's philosophy bullshit..

  • @1madinjun
    @1madinjun 12 лет назад

    Pablo Popovitch .

  • @SeanX1981
    @SeanX1981 12 лет назад

    Marcelo Garcia.

  • @wingsweep1
    @wingsweep1 12 лет назад

    all those new guards, X, SPIDER FIFTYFIFTY ECT..wount save your ass in the cage or street..jiu jitsu is for self defense its a fighting art...not a game for points...the closed guard is the best guard..the basics are everything

  • @juliooctavioramirezbladera2362
    @juliooctavioramirezbladera2362 10 лет назад +4

    marcelo is one the best fukinng gracies!

    • @commandmastacheef
      @commandmastacheef 10 лет назад +4

      Marcelo's last name is Garcia not Gracie

    • @MrDoctor...
      @MrDoctor... 6 лет назад

      he's not a gracie lol
      Garcia**
      not Gracie

  • @vegastyle84
    @vegastyle84 10 лет назад

    That looked like a tap at :47 seconds.

    • @Omega579.
      @Omega579. 10 лет назад

      That's the infamous 'Brazilian Tap'

  • @Dudongo86
    @Dudongo86 11 лет назад

    Stupid takedown is super important, underlooked by bjj players that suck in MMA.

  • @RealCity3
    @RealCity3 12 лет назад

    How is a Gracie loosing in BJJ?

  • @iamgodan
    @iamgodan 12 лет назад

    Gee what happened to you don't need strength for the techniques in Gracie Jiu Jitsu? If you look at Kron's face at about1:18, you can see he is straining trying to muster every ounce of strength to try and sink in the choke!

  • @westy3663
    @westy3663 10 лет назад +2

    Rickson should've fought in Pancrase instead of Vale Tudo in the '90s if he wanted to be regarded as a great. Fought a bunch of cans with losing records in 1994 & 1995 when he could've been fighting the likes of Bas Rutten, the Shamrocks, Mezger or Funaki (Prime) in Pancrase

    • @madbowler6
      @madbowler6 10 лет назад

      thank you!

    • @Jpeterson7
      @Jpeterson7 8 лет назад

      +westy3663 He went where he got paid. Frank Shamrock was supposed to the best and Renzo wrecked him. Royce did the same to Ken, who was KOP who finished them all. Rickson wrecked Royce, Renzo, Royler, all of them. Class dismissed.

    • @Jpeterson7
      @Jpeterson7 8 лет назад

      +westy3663 He went where he got paid. Frank Shamrock was supposed to the best and Renzo wrecked him. Royce did the same to Ken, who was KOP who finished them all. Rickson wrecked Royce, Renzo, Royler, all of them. Class dismissed.

  • @aper422
    @aper422 12 лет назад

    i find it hard to believe that someone would watch an adcc vid and ask such a question. You obviously have an interest in bjj and know that rickson is krons dad, so you have knowledge of the jiu jitsu world. and then you ask "Is that Rickson with the cap at the end? I wonder why would you ask that when you already know that it is him. i dont know why people do that shit, i know thats him. do you want people to talk about rickson is that why you brought him up. tell us why you would ask that?

  • @aper422
    @aper422 12 лет назад

    @tomson11. read below post.

  • @Jpeterson7
    @Jpeterson7 8 лет назад +3

    The scoring is crap. Kron schooled him.

    • @lour58
      @lour58 7 лет назад +1

      Jpeterson7 in what?

    •  7 лет назад +1

      never! MC is a jiu jitsu's god!

  • @minkybananas
    @minkybananas 12 лет назад

    Garcia wins on points.

  • @nenzonenzo
    @nenzonenzo 12 лет назад

    you make it seem like he's 16 or something. He's not THAT young. There are alot of other "young" rising stars out there which are rising faster than him actually. (ex. Marcelo is only 5 years older than him). Doubt he will ever reach the level of dominance his father enjoyed -not due to lack of skill, its just a different age now).

  • @kanguesso
    @kanguesso 11 лет назад

    No, I'd rather see Garcia in a No Gi match at the next Metamoris go after Ryron Gracie and his "keep it playful" bullshit and tap his ass out.

  • @xAristaicx
    @xAristaicx 12 лет назад

    @truemanc The troll is strong in this one.

  • @judassss
    @judassss 11 лет назад

    he went for 2 submission attemtps compared to gracias 0 and was offensive the whole match just one stupid take down = a win so silly

  • @kanguesso
    @kanguesso 12 лет назад

    @aphony11 Interesting.

  • @MRGgetmerkd
    @MRGgetmerkd 12 лет назад

    are you joking?