Full Cricket Match - Danny Baggish vs Matthew Edgar
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- Опубликовано: 28 окт 2021
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As an American 🇺🇸 and as a big fan of yours and your channel, I’m absolutely loving this dynamic you have going with Danny. Top quality stuff, and a reflection of why I love this game and it’s community.
Danny is a great guy
I’ve ALWAYS wanted to see you PDC guys throw cricket. Just to see the strategy and this tells me a lot. Thank you for posting!
Thank you so much for posting this match! Awesome to see the tactics.
Way to go Danny. Thanks for posting this Matt.
This was very cool to watch. Danny is able to calculate how many darts he is ahead or behind with lightning speed. Really enjoyed watching the both of you bring the game to masses. Cheers to the both of you.
Cricket is a fun game. It's a lot different than 501. In x01 you are playing against the board. In cricket you are playing against the board and your opponent. I would recommend a book called "How to master the game of cricket" by Jason Carter. As an American I'm really enjoying these cricket videos!
There's a book about cricket? Why.. haha
Nice video, first time I've seen it being played. Seeing it makes it more understandable
Really enjoyed this. Danny with a monster 5.1 MPR and Matthew a full mark per round less at 4.1, which is still very respectable. Great content, Matthew!
This was fun to watch. Basically you don’t ever want to give your opponent game darts. Think of it like making sure they are on a bogey number in 01 and you know you’ll be back to the board regardless of what they do.
So not just staying ahead in points, but staying ahead 10 marks so even if they hit a round of 9 they can’t catch you. That’s why a lot of times you didn’t understand why Danny would continue to point
Fair play to you Matt, crickets a totally different mindset you can't get by on skill alone if both players are throwing well, and Danny's a beast at cricket. Look forward to the rematch !! Cheers ✌🎯🇺🇸
Loved this!! Great video! Hope we get to see you and Jeff on Cricket too.
More like this please!
Defo will be more games of cricket coming
What a game, Matt, you held your own.
That looked like alot of fun, I have the same mindset as you when it comes to switching to open number, I always wondered why they would never close out the higher value targets and instead opt to score on a lower value. I see now how that mindset can be your undoing especially if the person you are playing has that experience along with a deadly accuracy, kinda like a game of chess and forcing your opponent to expose their queen and keep them on the chase. I believe this would be a good game that would benefit 501 as well with all the high value trebles and bull being the objective.
Some of us knew Danny would win this. However, it'll be great to watch a rematch when you learn more of the tactics. Great match though 💪
Thanks for spoiling the result 👍🏻
Paul and Chris Lim are AMAZING tutors for cricket as well!
Great spot is Bar501, been there a few times and always great atmosphere and some cracking darts
Would be really interesting to see this video again but also with commentary from Danny!
I have no idea how cricket works but I’m enjoying this
Congrats to Danny! Enjoyed this video greatly, Matt! 🎯🔥 You’ll get him next time once you nail down the tactics.
Defo think I can get it closer cause it wasn’t he out hit me he outplayed me. Very interesting game
Danny is a great guy. met him in person..hes not like alot of the top pro players. Hes actually a very friendly guy and willing to give advise to help your game
Yeah very well respected in darts 100%
I would love it if the PDC had cricket tournaments. We play a lot of it in America.
Love that your trying to learn cricket, nice change from the same 501 game.
Good watch , im starting to understand it
Love the commentary! As a lower shooter in a league here, our tactics are a bit different due to the quality of players we face. However I have played in some mixed leagues where it is lower and upper shooters and I love those kinds of leagues for learning their tactics in cricket and 01. I believe our top division, and I heard you mention that Danny mentioned this, they play for a greater than 9 mark lead. We in the lower divisions focus on points ahead and behind and they are looking at number of marks whether that be a result of points ahead or numbers closed. Usually points ahead like I saw Danny doing. I have even seen some let you keep pointing your number and they steadily 4-7 mark each other number and next thing you know you are still throwing at that one number and they have closed all the other ones. I actually did that one summer league with our upper shooter captain. I noticed him shooting at other numbers and our opponent kept shooting 18 to try and get a points lead ahead. I asked if he wanted me to do the same and he said "sure" lol. It was quite a different strat than I would do in our lower divisions.
Thanks for sharing this!!
The moment you hit the 25 you were level at 702... you absolutely needed to throw your remaining 2 darts at the open trebles to close. You essentially had darts to win the game...
That was an amazing video 👏👍❤️ Can't wait for a rematch 👀
That's exactly correct, you can't count points, you have to count marks. If you keep your opponent 10 marks away, they'll never win. Way to go Danny!
There was a series called "Thermonuclear Cricket" by Tony Payne that ran in a magazine called Bullseye News some years ago, goes into counting marks.
Enjoy your channel... Look forward to rematch!
You should look into a book called Master the game of cricket, it will help your game out a lot.
It's lovely to see you again matt awesome player danny baggish is awesome video that matt mate
cricket is such a fun game, and when you hear about the "darts ahead", its in reference to how many bulls-eyes ahead you are in the game since the bull is the only number that takes more than 1 dart to close. loads of fun, and Matt, once you get the understanding of the "darts ahead", I'm sure that you'll start loving the game as much as the yanks do.....
It would be great to see the PDC do this once a year with a blind draw teams. Mathew your darts around 10:30ish your pure Blitzkrieg. Thanks for posting.
As an American softtip player this is really great to watch to see just how foreign the strategy is to those that didn't come to darts in this game. Obviously the softtip game is even more point heavy as hitting 6-9 marks is even more prevalent. Still the standard here was really quite amazing.
The legend himself in my home town!
Love to see pro’s play quality cricket
Don’t let worldwide darts see this because he don’t believe that cricket is a game of strategy
So the game where the scorer messed up, it was still messed up even after it was "fixed." Matt threw a white horse 9 mark tripling the 20, 19, and 18. Then Danny threw a 6 mark in the 17. Then Matt started by throwing a single 17, then threw two 20s. The mess up was that Matt was given two 17s and only one 20. The score was fixed giving Matt the 40 points, but you left him with two 17s when he had only hit one. Obviously it didn't end up making a difference, but still. I'm surprised I couldn't find any other comments mention this.
Me and my mates also play Trebles and Doubles too, so hit any triple 3 times to open and same with dubs. We also play Shanghai where you get 100 points extra for S, T, D of any number, and 3 in a box (triples) for 100 points too!
Loving the cricket stuff. Cheers from the states
Will be much more coming based on cricket very soon 👍
@@Edgartvdarts I'm interested in seeing how your tactics evolve. And if you opponents start taking the bull away from you earlier.
The standard young lad, the standard! Hit "End Match" and let us see it! The numbers....
Nice video and great darts, for Dart Connect you should select "Cricket" instead of "Select Starter" so you don't have to select Cricket for each leg... let Thornton know...
Ah thank you, wondered why haha
haha i guess the tactics are quite simple really. try to score as much as you can above your opponent's score before you start opening new numbers or closing your opponent's numbers. having a big enough lead eases the pressure of opening/closing in the next round, and even if you dont manage to open/close well in the next round, your opponent would need to score big to gain a lead over you. and try not to use the bull for scoring since the segment is smaller.
What a match!!
Them double bullseyes 😍
I thought you were actually going to play cricket with Zac and danny haha I’m such a pleb!
reckon i've watched cricket about 2 hours in total and a explanation vid and i'm still none the wiser
Nice game 👍👏🎯
Great darts! I just bought a board 9 days ago and hit my first 180 today.
Awesome you never forget your first 180 !
Nice game.
In my measly Leauge in small town America. We always have A rule of minimal 2 bulls up. Then if we have something open and the opponent doesn’t we throw 2 darts to score, and 1 to close.
Luv it!!
Cricket is a tactical game
I know this game as Killer. Cricket for us involves one person scoring on any points over 20 per hand (the batsman), and the bowler then goes for bull to dismiss the batsmen.
Haha good game you did well to keep it as close as it was. Poo Chris is a legend 🤣 Who beat you on the round robin then?
Danny is a beast, we love cricket in the USA
Basically just score heavily when you get the chance. Get ahead and then close. I’m not great but when I play someone at my level I can usually win
Scoring heavily is not what he is doing. Danny is just trying to take some of the darts out of Matts hand is all he is doing. At a good to elite level here in the US you are trying to stay ahead 60-100(more if you are playing a serious tournament or match) points at any given time. That is not considered scoring heavily. The last thing I want you to do is have a great round get 1 single mark ahead and take a shot at my numbers. I wanna force you to keep throwing the same number until you make a mistake I can capitalize. Scoring heavily would be trying to put you 200 points down.
From my limited experience of cricket I have loved the tactics of it. From one of the previous videos I had seen of Danny playing it I knew your chances were slim.
Experience and tactics and you should give him a game. Especially as you like to analyse and strategy.
That went about as well as I expected. I told Danny to bring that fire. And boy did he. Fair play to The Primetime player though. Had some nice rounds, he just out moved ya.
Never knew how tactical it was until now. Will study and look forward to a re match
@@Edgartvdarts should be a fun watch. I've been on that losing side to Danny plenty of times. That why I switched to being his driver when we go out of town. 🤣
Chess for darts i love cricket its not just a warm up game as some say...
Why wasn’t Baggish at the World Cup of Darts?
Have a match between Danny and Boris. They both played soft tip and are used to high scoring cricket games
In cricket can you close out bull with 3 greens, or do you have to at least hit the "bullseye-red" once in order to close out???
25 (green) is one point bull is 2
@@Edgartvdarts I appreciate the fast response, I understand the point value, what I'm wandering is in order to "close out" the bull can you just hit 3 greens or do you have to at least hit the bullseye-red once in order to close out, not actually score any of the points on bull... ( Just closing it out) thx again!
@@Edgartvdarts LoL, yes I know green's value is 1 and red is 2 & their point values are 25 & 50 I've known that since I was 8, I'm American and through the years I've played people who insist that you must hit the bullseye-red in order to close out on bull, for example, 15-20 are closed out and all you have left is bull, you throw all 3 darts and all of them land in green, I have played people who would only count that as 2, even though All 3 darts are in green and that should be a total of 3 and should close out bull, what I'm trying to ask is if that's an actual rule somewhere or it's something they came up with NOT an actual rule, sorry if I'm aggravating you with all this lol. Thx again...ps got a new set of 22g darts today, can't wait to try them out!
Is it hard to change ur thinking from 501 to cricket? See I grew up playing cricket an 501 thinking is harder for me now that I’m playing it? Go figure huh?
Good job brother,👍
Matt
Oh for sure 100%
where did darts cricket dame originate matty ubtil today never heard of it?
This game still confuses me no end. At 16:20, how does hitting the T20, T19 and T18 not score any points?
Because you only score points AFTER the segment is closed. So if you have them closed (3 total marks) and your opponent does not have them closed, anything you hit will count as points. Edgar closed 3 different numbers but didn’t gain any points. If he would of hit three T20’s it would of been 120 total points because the first T20 closed the number
I think this shows that as soon as Danny gets really used to 501 and the pdc he is going to explode up the rankings and start winning tournaments
Try to get Boris Krcmar play a game with you, would be fun as he is probably on of the best soft darts players ever and cricket is the game of choice there.
70's and early 80's we played a gentlemans game but if you do that now you cannot win.
Matthew just needs to watch a video or two of two players like Danny who know the game. There’s many available on line. Won’t take long for him to get it
You should have the MPR up on your next video. You could use a few tweaks here and there but you didn't play bad strategically speaking. I'm willing to bet if you look at the MPR, Danny just flat out threw better darts
I watched this video again and kept score along with it. Danny had a 5.1 and Matt a 4.1.
@@chrisschick38 Nice work haha. Yeah it doesn't matter what you do tactically if your opponent is throwing a whole mpr more than you
@@jasoncarter9876 Thanks. I enjoy both players and the game in general so it was fun. Matthew’s 12-darter was fantastic but as a strategy it’s unsustainable.
@@chrisschick38 Absolutely. It's great seeing some actual PDC pros play cricket. Danny shot lights out there. With some more experience so Matt doesn't have to think so much you'll see a more competitive match. He's only going to get better the more he plays
Ive played some pdc players and theyll admit they dont know the pure strategy of cricket. Watch and youll see there preference is pound score get ahead and use that cover dart to close numbers. This cricket match was awesome....John Part....is a master at knowing the game of cricket...killer..etc. Danny..and the North American players know cricket in there sleep. Every weekend they play...there playing 2 3 cricket events. You can see the difference between the 2 players here. Not being critical of Matt at all...a World class player but cricket doesnt put coin in his bank account in the pdc. In North America...Darts doesnt put enough money in there players account. Which is why you see so many events in a tournement which would run Friday through to Sunday night. But alot less money. Strategically speaking....Matt using proper cricket strategy would have win this match.
Steel tip ‘darts’s Cricket’ might be the break through, towards the soft tip/American market…?
Agreee
cracking match ... looking forward to part two when Danny wont go as easy on you lol
He’s insane at cricket even when I hit 3 trebles with the throw I felt behind
@@Edgartvdarts You actually hit four rounds of 9 to Danny's three. That 12-dart leg was super, but a risky strategy to hang your hat on for an entire match.
One rule of thumb in the States applies when you have a single dart left in your hand: If your opponent has more than one number closed on you and you have your own number to score on, use it. You can't close 2 numbers with one dart, so get some insurance with your own points.
Some of us amateurs take that a step further: If your opponent only has one number closed on you, but you need more than a fat single to close it, point on your own number if you have one. Last dart trebling to close an opponent's number is heroic, but for us non-pros, it usually backfires when we miss.
this man said cricket is low scoring shows just how much you dont know
There are 2 schools in Cricket.
You play to classic way.
The guy behind talks about the American way with massive scoring.
Cricket has WAY more strategy and is a lot more fun to play and watch because you can impact what your opponent does (as compared to x01).
And you will learn way more just by watching top matches as there are tons of big matches so you can see their strategies and why.
Its all about being up 5+ marks. Thats why he scores. If he stays 5+ marks up, his open numbers are protected. trying to close last dart is trying for a hero dart.
granted the better player wants to prolong the game, and the lesser player wants to shorten it. Thus hero darts to close down numbers
the first leg you won, you closed numbers quickly and didnt let Danny fight back
That makes a lot of sense
@@Edgartvdarts also I said 5+ marks. at yalls level, its probably closer to 7. some people over point imo and let opponents back in, but I was always told you cant lose with more points. taking chances at closing just gives chances to your opponent
@@Frady180 was going to say 5 marks is nothing for some of the big boys here in the US. I play with Soldier down here in TX along with a few other big names 9+ marks is where you wanna be when you consider a hole and 100 points+ 5-7 your asking to get 9 marked or punished.
@@dirtyharry2029 absolutely! 5 was always the rule of thumb on got and in most matches thats a good place to be. realistically youre the 501 equivalent of 100 points ahead, but if they hit that 180 youre behind now. Youre correct though that just like the 100 points ahead used to be the PDC standard for in control, those guys want to stay 140+ ahead if they can. with the big boys 7+ in steel is a good enough place, 9+ in Soft. Steel/Soft matters a ton
Id love to see pdc start organizing super matches with its players. Bring them to a big venue...pay there accomadations...feed them pay them there appearence fee and offer up as an example 10k for winning and 2.5 k for losing. Run it over 2 days..give them the 3rd day for family..dinner..press..media etc.
Mark Collett and Laura Towler on commentary
Why’s it called cricket?
Baggish is a good player,,talk with him in2016 winmau world darts
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13:14 Danny Baggish throws 9 Mark(T20,T19,T18), that's called "White Horse"！
You're reacting to him
Played Danny a couple of times , he kicked my butt. We play alot of cricket in America, think its a more fun game to play , you can just score points , or move around the board , you get four numbers you can shoot at , and the other guy has one to score on, he can't close you out. I once saw a game between Roger Carter and Steve Brown back in ninteys, and every game went over 1200 points.
Levels
Looks like the edger is using loxley kites??
Yeah I am
I don’t understand
A lot of talk in the comments about strategy and tactics. A few years ago Darren Webster went to the USA and played in a cricket tournament which featured a lot of the top experienced cricket players in North America. Darren was unfamiliar with cricket but still managed to make the final where he lost to Boris Krcmar. If the game is so tactical how does a novice like Darren Webster beat all those other players with their so called 'strategy'?
If you hit everything , no strategy will work .
its not rocket science the reason we point so much because we are used to rounds so we know if we have the most points when the rounds run out we win thats why you see higher caliber like danny shoot points first before danny went to the pdc i sponsored and played with him damn near everyday
You never chase in cricket. You can't win if you're behind on points.
Felt like I chased the whole game here.
Really enjoyed the match though. Being from the states we play more cricket than 501 just because it doesn't take as long. (Our skill level in general doesn't compare to yours) Danny Baggish is American if I'm not mistaken. Probably why he knows the strategy even though you're skill levels are in the same realm.
Danny is playing it correctly.
Yeah he tried to help me after the game will take some learning for sure
16:47 scorekeeper made a mistake
Hey Matt. Lov3 how you're playing some non 501 games like cricket. Big problem with this video is that you analysed the games with another person who doesn't know anything about cricket! Why didn't you get Danny to do it? The commentary is two people who have no cricket experience so I don't think viewers will learn anything. Some.of the '10 mark' stuff is ok but it's not explained clearly enough. Tactics and strategy are also different. I sometimes come across jose de sousa online on Phoenix. He's a heavy scorer! That's the best strategy you can learn! Higher treble with equally skilled opponent should get the W
Lol welcome to American Cricket, good games. See how wimpey 501 is :P j/k
In cricket if I can't hit a number I try to make my opponent hit twice as many
We call this game Mickey mouse. Cricket is a different game.
Cricket the version where you hit the bull ?
Bilbo Baggish, bravest little hobbit of them all..
They should do cricket for the usa world series event as its not ranked
I’d love to play a cricket event
I live in the USA and when I first started watching the PDC about 7-8 years ago, I was surprised to see that they only play 501. I've wanted to see those guys play cricket ever since. I came to the conclusion that covering a set of Cricket on television would play hell for commercial breaks, as one leg could be an epic (like Leg1) and one could go by in 4 rounds (like Leg3). Thanks Matthew for putting this type of content up, I really enjoy it.
in all honesty I've never understood the concept of cricket
The only thing you need to know about cricket is that you can never lose with the point lead.
If u can't close with a single always go for points. U know advice from your average commenter. Hah. 🤙