Why Disguised Valorant Failed horribly
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- In this Video I go about DSG and their complete Valorant run, while it certainly hasn't been the worst it's definitely something the community should know about especially with how the valorant scene is evolving at it's present stage.
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the downfall of this team is dropping steel and the constantly changing roster imo, sure he might be not the best igl but comparing the results with and without steel the difference is big imo, add that with the roster changing everyweek while having yay with the pressure from fans expecting yay carrying this whole team, so no wonder this team is dead rn
it start from 1 guy leaving the team right? (forgot who it is) then it started going worse and worse
@@dragonarc_gamingyou mean a domino effect?
@@melsy9355 kinda, they lose a player, they wanted an upgrade to give them result, and they keep changing roster which makes it worse as well
Nah they were bad with steel too
@@SirCarmelli like i said steel isn't the best igl but you can see the results without steel is almost 0-2 every matches
"He showed how to waste even more money in the eSports scene" Let's not talk about how the Challenger league never hit viewer numbers before like they did after DSG's first game. Or how Moist Moguls didn't exist until after Toast made DSG and even made xQc interested in buying a team, creating the Creator Owned teams we have and will be moving towards in the future I imagine/ Or how Game Changers hit over 100K concurrent viewers when the DSG GC team played. There is so much more that DSG brought to the scene than just "a waste of money" none of it should be considered a failure.
ok lets talk about it then. what did that earn them?
@@EetSleepYeethow much has MxM earned from Valo again? Or The Guard? Or how about M80? Wait wait wait…..none of them have earned anything that earns profit???? Does that mean that making comments about how much any team has made in the eSports scene makes 0 sense because NO ONE is making money? Crazy, right?? Success is measured in many ways, just cause you only measure it in $$$ doesn’t mean that’s what everyone sees. I think DSG was successful in bringing more attention to the Valorant VCT and GC scene. More attention means more opportunities to earn money, but if 2k people are watching VCT that isn’t going to help anyone.
@@SpookyPandaBoi and were they successful?
@@EetSleepYeetI don't want valorant but I tuned in to dsg and mxm games. Doubt I'm the only one.
I think you're letting your hate for toast stop you from objectively evaluating how many eyes were drawn to the tier 2 valorant scene from this.
mrbeast league team when
bottom of the line, c9 destroyed yay's career
I hope C9 valorent never reaches the international stage.
Still, karma is a bitch so no one win in the end
They were infinitely better after the yay and vanity cut, so you can't blame them. They did better than even OpTic core in groups.
@@merst899 yeah but guess what person got to Tokyo? OpTic. I like NRG/OpTic are better than current C9
yay is just buns
they started falling hard when steel got benched, also we never got to see how steel would utilize yay since they were together in challengers for just a few games
they played a total of 1 game together lmao its crazy
That's been my belief for the past half year. yay was never the problem, and he never "fell off," like so many Twitch chatters said. yay is a structured duelist, very much unlike other duelists like aspas, and I don't believe he could ever reach the highest level without the brain of someone like FNS, a world class IGL. Come what may, I pray that FNS and yay will be on the same team again.
yay fell off
people also need to consider his confidence lvl probably kept dropping more and more after optic disbanded and cloud 9 dropping him. its hard to stay at the top of your game when all this is happing you start to question your ability. and the first match performance with DSG sealed the deal with that.
Who could've thought that you need a team to be compatible instead of just the #1 player and a few half-pros
I didnt like it when they benched exalt but then you bench your only true IGL (steel) now he isnt the best IGL but hes definitely very solid considering how he played for tier 1 orgs, I really didnt get why they benched steel but considering how steel reassured toast about his decisions towards the org even after he got benched I think its more on the team than him
People need to realize yay is good because of how good his team was. He still good just he needs good set ups
yays prob 1 of the nicest guys in the league his tweet 100% wasnt saying my teammates are shit ranked players more then it was the team overall just was making a lot of mistakes including himself braindead outta steel to take it like that
Exalt being the igl was the downfall
Welcome back
I never understood why teams do roster changes so easily. They do the same in league. I wonder what the statistics are for success after a roster change
really good apparently if you're sentinels and you hire tenz
@@madhatten00 bro you living in 2021 still? sen is hot ass now even with 4 world champions on the team.
@@midono77 tenz is already retired, better hire someone better
sentinels are bad, true
this is so well edited. amazing video😏
Man if I’m a big org and I see yay say that I simply wouldn’t sign him. You never say bad stuff on ur teammates if they didn’t say anything about u bro is simply the problem
yay was a one trick chamber I don’t think we will see him again in t1 team lol
Here before this guy blows up(OG)
Banger video!!
Toast inspired ludwig to make a val team. so thats a +
i remember everyone was saying FNS dont have Yay carry now he will realize.....just look at the scene now ,i have to agree FNS is the best IGL
yay is goated if he has a strong core supporting him like optic
It was so simple, all they had to do was keep their original roster and swap clear for yay, clear was the sole reason they were losing, not only on duelist but also when he was forced to play smokes, even at his peak when he was most comfortable he was not incredible for them whereas the rest of the team gelled well, then with the addition of yay i think they could have done amazing things...
was clear the main reason? give me more info
@NuthingSpecial clear never performed well even on duelist, his numbers were never good and then he was forced to play smokes which deteriorated his performance even more, my guess is toast liked him as a person and therefore based the Roster of people he liked rather than people who performed well, hence why Steel and XXIF were dropped.
at least we have dsg league of legends :)
I kinda feel like these teams are doing tournaments to soon, a lot.of teams barely practice together fot less than a month and expect everyone to strat and play well together
Bro these new valorant channels are the absolute business. Between you and Commend I am eating so good! Love the videos!!!
Whats the inspiration behind the name "BustyVal"?
Honestly I’m not sure 😭
@@BustyVal 😂😂😂😂😂😂
dropping steal was the downfall tbh
The point about esports teams not being profitable isn't true, RiotGames esports aren't profitable, sure, but Valve's dota 2 has had orgs and teams in the scene for over a decade, even when they're not super successful. Valorant and LoL don't pay enough money for championship success, so it doesn't breed success. When you put serious money on the line, you get players competing at the highest level actually possible, as victory means a complete change of their life.
In Dota 2, the winning team splits 20 million dollars. In league/valorant, you're lucky to split a million even if you're the best team in the world by far. Meaning teams have to rely on merchandise and fan contribution to pay players salaries.
This is why FNS is the greatest player in the world
As much as i dont like fns that guy sure have the talent to back himself. That guy is like Namekian Guru or Elder Kai, he can unlock hidden potential of his guys.
Make me wonder, can he make tyson peak again if they were ever in a team together.
The outro tho :/
" Im Busty "?
The reason why DSG failed is due to "Tarik the JINX" o7
tbh yay was the issue,exalt did amazing as a duelist and it was perfect
Exalt was always a flex player, he never played duelist really. Clear was their main duelist
@@D4VID9724clear was their main duelist, but I have heard that dsg (at the start) wanted demon1 (as duelist) and clear (as sentinel) but demon1 got yoinked by EG so clear filled in as duelist bcoz xxif is sentinel. Would that mean clear is also a flex player? Coz with yay and nerve roster it's either him or yay being duelist, jett or raze.
For all the people in here saying that C9 destroyed Yay’s career is funny, when multiple teams were still looking for a sixth man (nrg, 100t, sentinels, and EG was looking replace a ninth man for their ten man team). To say that Yay did not have options is ridiculous, the man had an insane salary and even with no buyout teams knew that Yay was not worth the price he wanted (even though he was willing to take cuts in salary). It was rumored that C9 and 100t were the only two teams that were willing to pay the optic buyout and 100t quickly pivoted to cryo (which funnily enough had a higher buyout). Also did people forget that whilst he was on C9 he wasn’t even the best player and had issues running in a more loose style that C9 likes to play. Also according to not only jack but mCe on his streams, they were the most coin flippy team in scrims and there were legitimate roles issues with the roster. C9 had to make a choice and honestly they made the right one. Not only did they look more cohesive as a team they allowed their best player to shine brightly. People will make fun of them for missing out on Tokyo, but when you consider they threw multiple rounds on lotus and could have easily won OT on haven with zelsis brimstone ult against nrg in a map 3, I think they did just fine.
Please tell me what would be my king's future is?
Why did they drop steel again?
i never thought yay was good anyways
Chamber Nerf and optic disband is really affect Yay
What even is acs? It makes no sense to me
FNS the goat
They are literally in vct
shoulda kept the 500k.
They didn't exactly have a great "boss", to say the least.
1:52 kinda sus bro
Why ffs didnt they frenchize optic...
deserved
tbh yay is not the GOAT
yo wtf am I watching im high as shit
Why aren’t there any Koreans playing on here? That could have been their answer. They dominate in Esports.
Waste more money in result*
I agree.
i dont think dsg was a waste of money in the esports scene, even though rn it seems like a net loss, overall, it brought more engagement to the esports scene and with that the hope is that it would cause those who are actually involved to learn how to profit esports
Yay is definitely washed. That is extremely bias to say he isn’t
Respectfully exalt was bad igl
No shade to ardiis but i hope he plays like a dog so yay can reunite with fns and the rest of the optic corp
it's too late, ardiis has proved himself and there is no chance that yay will replace him
Same here bro
ardiis is doing pretty good man, you can't blame him
he won drx today btw
They have to be really desperate to pickup yay even if ardiis got booted. Even a stray dog from a random alley can put up a better performance than yay if you give the dog a mouse
Hi Busty, can you make a video on Moist Moguls and their success?
Maybe in the future yeah, I still feel like they have more to prove.
Yay fanboys huffing copium to explain his poor performance every time he plays is so sad to see man…
Not surprised that Toast didn't manage to make it big into the scene with DSG considered the shitty logo they had.
It was not a failure
lol
Yay didn't deserved to be in dsg
Yay doesn’t deserve to be in tier 1 or 2. He couldn’t win a single match in tier 2 even.
@@chrisak49 not his fault his team couldnt win
yeah he deserved to be in t1
@@gena_duck852 you mean t1 like the team?
@@awesomejakecakelol1840 i mean t1 as in tier 1
DSG was truly a L ORG, Toast should have done research before getting into esports scene . Just look at MxM their roster looks so promising and IN DSG we can see a Troll team . XXIF was not the problem that guy was doing his job and replacing their IGL steel just made them x10 worse
Lolwut. Without DSG, Lud would never have picked up a team mid-season. DSG built the team from scratch, got through an incredibly hype open qual & got a bunch of people invested into Challengers.
Lud had a choice of the only 2 FA teams available, mid season, & happened to strike gold.
You’re also acting as if Toast is the one making those team changes when it’s all the head coach. He also did plenty of research, Sean Gares recommended the coach even.
It is because running an esports team is not easy. Some goofy aah amongus cringe streamer can't just make an pro valorant team and expect it to work even with good players.
LITERALLY THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE. People look at this fucking among us streamer like he's omnipotent because he can guess which one of his dumbass friends is lying. Every single venture he's tried has failed immediately, and his takes have consistently been complete dogshit.
Its not like the org owner is making them play bad
@@coffeecheoltrue but some of the decisions being made definitely contributed to their bad performance… i don’t keep up with the team much but i feel like they’re constantly switching out players hoping to get better results and it’s obviously not working
Is it just me or does toast look like hikaru
toast's constant moody behavior and depressed look while his team was fighting for their lives really pissed me off. the poor players did not deserve this kind of toxic environment in which they had to fear for their position every single week while entirely reliant on an immature manchild.
The players did not deserve this kind of salary from their poor owner more like lmao. toast invested his money and trust in them, but the players just suck playing together, that's it. If the environment was toxic, then it's the players themselves and perhaps the coach that made it so. Blaming toast for their poor performance is dumb af.
toast paid them at least 5000 a month each
that's 60000 a year at least, 300k a year for just the starting squad
of course he's going to look depressed and moody if they're losing
You say that while losing money
I laughed so hard when they dropped steel, what were they thinking?!?
Steal is trash, and team have to stop giving him opportunities 😂
Other reason is, yay's overrated
It is proffitable, It depends on how much they win, in this case they didn't. also cuz valorant esports are so trash
I think the main issue is Yay went from an agent that he could insta get away and reposition and playing with 3 of the best fighters in NA and the smartest IGL in na (arguably the world). He got set up with an insane agent that fit him perfectly and he had some of the best support that made him even better, This DSG yay was expected to dry peak 2 and kill both and tho sometime he did, he clearly had too much rust from not playing in organized val to do that and he got punished a lot. Hopefully he'll get signed for T1 or at the very least picked up by a top T2 team who can play with him
i would actually see him in the guard but their team doesnt need roaster changes
If he joined M80 instead of dsg, he would be a lot better
No its the main issue if you ever watched Yay in 2021 when he was with ENVY you dont know how good he was on the jett role when chamber wasn't meta Yay would dominate the scene in 2021 and they actually almost won masters once in 2021 and even almost (not saying Yay did) but almost even competed at TenZ prime and both of each other were getting shit on left to right and each game against each other SEN VS ENVY were really close i mean really close. Also people think that Yay only played Chamber in 2022 when chamber was meta but Yay kept switching playing either duelist or Chamber more chamber ofc but he was still crazy on Jett so its not the Chamber role that hes not playing and also no one expected him to dry peak 2 and kill both. People expected him to shit on t2 pros while he was t1 which was not to case. I think your kinda wrong when saying "he clearly had too much rust from not playing in organized val." I hope you realized that Yay played in LOCK IN which was in Febuarary and he took a break for about 1 and a half month while he came back in mid April which was his first match with DSG. You might say that might be a lot of time, yes it is a lot of time but I hope you realize that Reduxx who plays for OXG esports never actually played in REAL tournaments you can even check on vlr he never played an offical tourney and he performed really well playing for OXG while Yay even though he took a month and a half break hes played t1 valorant for his entire valorant history before that. Thats the difference so its not really "too much rust." For me I think that's just an excuse for him playing hot ass. (BTW im not trying to hate im just saying my opinion btw.)
@@sinnfpss ngl I think fns just played yay in a really smart way and set him up, thats half the reason tbh
@@sinnfpssok 2021 envy yay was playing with a fundamentally different version of jett due to her instant dash so saying "yay is crazy on jett see when he played her when she was essentially just an objectively better version than his current main" is a little unfair
There were some roster changes you missed here, specifically with exalt. He got dropped in split 1 with their sub, riku, stepping in. Then that group went 0/3 in matches they played together which led to the split 2 roster changes, which were -xxif -riku +yay +nerve, then after that didn't work -steel +exalt
he didnt get dropped he left because of dissagreements with steel
Damn thats a really well edited and made video for a small channel, i def see you growing once time passes
Nice vid. On the subjetc, just keep the team together enough time until they can play well. DSG did incredible to enter Tier 2, but just one split and they changed everything, effectivly throwing last months of practice to the trash :0
7:49 1000% agreed with subroza
bro, i think yay just needs to be cheaper then. loosen off the pressure & budget issues
i can understand yay for basically dissing his team after the final loss, i mean they never won a series after signing yay. Even against the worst seeded teams, they failed to win. But it certainly had something to do with yay's mental overtime, after some bad preformances and even loosing with GOOD preformances eventually nobody can keep up with that. It's true that dsg switching igl's was the nail in the coffin, i mean they were loosing 3v1's with spike down and it wasn't even like some insane tier 1 clutch like the ardiis 3k against drx on ascent, it was more like they just peaked when it was unneccessary and just got shot.
Personally I him dissing his team was kinda unprofessional, I mean he played like ass in some games they were all part of the problem
@@ajarmuzzle true he played pretty bad in some games but tbh what can u expect from a dominant player during the chamber era WITH FNS AS HIS IGL
so basically, toast was successful in pioneering creator-owned teams to join and qualify, influencing moist moguls into the game and thriving this season, but with the hype around toast, yay, tarik, and others who are involved/indirectly involved, the spotlight is more on their failures than what they started for a dry and repetitive esports league
honestly dont know why they dropped steel he was the glue to the team and i didnt see Nerve doing much in the games that he played
steel didnt play because of personal reasons, whether that is true or not i dont think toast is dumb enough to drop igl in the middle of the season
@@Just_Tai he didnt play, cuz exalt is a b1tch
Bro literally just read off results instead of any meaningful analysis, L video
They didn't "fail to secure a single match"..... They won 2 games in the first split.
Ganghsta was the first mongolian Esport player and I really excited to watch him play and win...
yoo another mongolian, i was really exited for Genghsta as well tbh
its crazy cus there is very few player as capable as yay..who you can leave in to hold a angle alone and he is good for 1 and gets out.. he is veryy deciplined and thats the reson for OTICS good defensive setups..EITHER hit YAY for a TRAP PLAY of 2 CUS YAu is alone and it helps release a player for FNs to cook a trap play..(Victor was the entry YAy was more of an anchor/defensive jet like CRYo)
Definitely a misconception that yay was the best player when he was on c9. He had been showing worse and worse performances for months prior, and definitely seemed less mechanically skilled. Everyone who says he was the best and just had his confidence down is either a meat rider or delusional
yay is definitely not tenz
so how can he be the best?
I Think That is not waste of money . Judging is very easy Man. Toast tried his best and yay tried his best .Allover DSG TRIED.
I hope YaY have very hard time in C9 and DSG . NO problem. NOT every Year is BAD.
Maybe Next year we See...... Yay will play better :)
:)
esports may not be that profitable but ence apparently had a net profit of 1 million so far this year which just means that you simply need to play your cards right if you want to profit off of an esports org.
who would've predicted that signing the american goat would cost people
yeah but ence has the backing of basically an entire nation
ngl the first roster was fire but then drama between steel and exalt happened and it all went down hill from there
i mean they did get a win?? im confused like it was just the last stretch?
Yay is not unfortable with jett
Nice Video!
:))
Yay tweet that while he himself often peek angles he shouldnt and try to get more kills instead of guarding the spike with the team. If he really feels like he is also the problem. Just say i, not we
They were, okay that's a good start to a new team. and then every change from the original roster made things worse and worse.
i just feel like their team had no synergy constantly dropping players and getting new ones
Coach problem
Good Coach = Good Team
Bad Coach = Bad Team
Coach decided if the team will be good or not, even if all the players are good, they won't do that well, if they don't have a good coach
no way bro forgot to talk about the first influencer made team that made it into international top tier fokus im disapointed
been a subscriber for a while i love your content you are really entertaining hopefully you make it big
I feel like if they just kept steel maybe they would have been closer
1:52 they beat off the teams
toast got lost in the sauce
C9 and Chamber ruined yay sadge
meme team
this is EXCACTLY the video i wanted