Deion also likely understands the great value that also exists in Florida for recruiting. There are some great recruits coming out of Texas and Florida alike.
I’m a UGA fan, but also love college football, the history of the game, and rivalries. Money aside, just look at both Colorado and Nebraska since their departure from the BigXII. They’ve been horrendous. I contribute it to pretty much one thing. Losing the BigXII footprint for recruiting. Texas is one of the top five best recruiting states in the entire country. It would be like a team in the SEC moving to another conference and losing Georgia and the city of Atlanta as a recruiting base. When you’re in the BigXII and half your games or more are in the state of Texas, it’s easy to get a Texas kid to come to your school. His family is gonna get at least six or seven chances to watch you play without having to get on a plane. That is HUGE. You can say NIL changes all that and for some kids it does. But kids want their families to see them play. Even with NIL, it’s a hard sell to get a kid to leave his home state or at the very least the conference foot print. Prime sees that. He’s smart, and he’s gonna win eventually, and win big.
Not exactly accurate. Nebraska was still winning 9-10 games a year under Pelini after moving to the B1G. Yes, subsequent coaches not emphasizing Texas was a HUGE mistake. Matt Rhule isn't making that mistake. It wasn't about leaving the Big XII.
Firing Pelini was mistake number one. I will still have to disagree though. Nebraska was never gonna get the major Ohio or Michigan high school players. Texas is the recruiting Mecca for teams in the BigXII and surrounding area. My point is, it’s a lot easier to recruit Texas kids when their parents know they’ve got several games on the schedule in the state. The recruitment of Texas basically went out the window with the move to the BigTen. At least in regards to the top tier Texas players. It would’ve eventually came to fruition under Pelini as well had they not fired him. Rhule is a good coach and the brand of football that will be played now is definitely gonna improve. He will bring the state of Texas back in the fold recruiting wise, but Nebraska will have to become a national recruiter. They won’t get enough Texas kids to make a significant difference being in the BigTen. He’ll make a splash at first because he’s the hot new thing, but Nebraska is gonna have to recruit more like Notre Dame to get back in the playoff hunt.
On another note, since you’re a Husker fan. What in the heck happened with Frost? When that hire was made, I would’ve bet my house that he would’ve turned you guys around.
As a Kstater, it warms my heart that the buffs and the cornsuckers have stunk so spectacularly since they left. Both so arrogant that they deserve all the mediocrity that the football gods decided to gift them. But I am happy that cu has come back to where they belong. However, I still wish for at least 25 more years of suckage for nebraska.
For the immediate term, yes. They are too small for the BIG10 (per market size) but a better fit academically. Regionally, the Big 12 is an excellent fit, but they are not academically, but does it matter? Times have changed.
This is a sports, (specifically football) move and because of that, 100% yes it is a wonderful idea. With Coach Prime’s ability to connect with young people, you’re looking at perennial top ten to top five recruiting classes. That’s all because of the BigXII footprint.
Stfu. It is absolutely relevant when discussing the cultural differences between the PAC and the Big 12. Cal and UCLA literally had to rely on a carveout in their state law in order to be able to use school funds to travel to a lot of conservative states as of a few years ago. Not to mention the decades-long saga of the PAC and BYU, strictly for politically driven reasons.
When Colorado's AD admitted that they didn't yet have the money to pay Sanders when he was introduced the writing was on the wall. Everything hinged on a new Pac-12 media deal. It hasn't come and Colorado couldn't afford to wait.
For people saying the liberalism of pac leadership doesn’t matter. Yea it shouldn’t yet it does this all the arrogant comments about fly over conference and truck stop conference. Leaders set tone and Libs tend to be a holes to others
the big 12 will be just fine texas hasnt been relevant since 09 ou was the only team making the playoffs and making splashes so honestly colorado will reel in way more eyes and revenue then texas and ou have in YEARS so itll be fine i cant wait for colorado to move there it'll be fun alot of rivalries some trash talk and such college football hasnt been exciting for me in awhile now this makes me look forward to things
The coaches That the Colorado buffaloes had at the time that they left the Big 12 Conference did not know how to recruit in the west coast areas, like Washington State, Oregon,Utah, California,. Arizona,, an could not coach up players in these areas
Means they are short siighted morons. Liberal leadership is the worst in all facets Whether it’s running the country, business state city or conference.
@@joeblow7407 They have been saying that for literally months now. They started working on the deal before the Big 12 did, and the Big 12 deal is done. I don't think there is a market for some of these PAC teams, that don't have any fans. They haven't finished a contract, because the details are going to be grim.
It was a purple state 20 years ago, but not anymore. The state and federal level are dominated by Democrats thanks the to the front range metro areas and the I-70 ski towns that dominate the state's population and culture.
@@tlobrill1 not many people talk about it but I do t think prime is going to be one of those guys who coaches into his late 60’s or early 70’s, I think he’ll make his exit sooner than people think
@@nashmonti120 I don’t know. I think he genuinely likes working with kids. He’s competitive and bored. He has few things left to achieve. He makes his way back home to FSU he barely needs to recruit with all the talent. I think he’ll coach for a while. Who know bet the colorodo over. So I’ll be rooting this year lol
Did you just hear Tim Brando say that the XII is headed to EXACTLY the number of teams I have been telling you for months? 20 Teams. To be more accurate I said 20+1. Gonzaga is the +1 because they don't play Football. It will not be 20+1 right away. The G5s will have to wait 5 years. Not sure when Gonzaga is added could be right away. But beware, I have also told you that you are STILL going to lose 2 or 3 teams in the XII now. ACC is much stronger that you believ because you keep seeing the WRONG numbers. They are going to grab the Top 3 to 5 PAC schools and 1 to 3 XII schools to also go to 20+1. XII will get Colorado, Washington ST and Oregon ST fo sure and 1 of the Arizona Schools (maybe BOTH). CAL could be on the table. Utah could be on the table. Stanford, Oregon, Washington headed to ACC... NOT to the BIG.
I disagree. Big is going to want to make travel easier for the LA schools. They snag Oregon and wash so LA doesn’t travel as far. Make a push like hell ND when the Acc breaks up as Clemson and FSU go to sec Miami unc to big 10
@@tlobrill1 USC and UCLA DO NOT WANT other PAC schools involved. Current BIG schools DO NOT WANT to have to Travel West more than they have to. There is NO INCENTIVE for ANYONE in the BIG to add more Western Teams. NONE.
Why would west coast teams play in the ACC? Maybe if they don’t get invited to the B1G, but if they get to choose no school is going to pick the ACC over B1G
Colorado just outsmarted all the "Academic Elites". Well Played Buffs.
@@EverydayEurope Instincts, Intelligence. Call it what you will. Either way, the PAC 12 still doesn't have a TV Deal and likely won't anytime soon.
Colorado still losing team for last decade..football and basketball .make no sense why big 12 took them back I don’t get it
@@asasavadphayphane371the Denver market that’s why, and of course the eyeballs and attention that coach prime brings
Deion understands the value recruiting wise in the state of Texas. The Big 12 will make his recruiting of Texas easier.
Deion also likely understands the great value that also exists in Florida for recruiting. There are some great recruits coming out of Texas and Florida alike.
I’m a UGA fan, but also love college football, the history of the game, and rivalries. Money aside, just look at both Colorado and Nebraska since their departure from the BigXII. They’ve been horrendous. I contribute it to pretty much one thing. Losing the BigXII footprint for recruiting. Texas is one of the top five best recruiting states in the entire country. It would be like a team in the SEC moving to another conference and losing Georgia and the city of Atlanta as a recruiting base. When you’re in the BigXII and half your games or more are in the state of Texas, it’s easy to get a Texas kid to come to your school. His family is gonna get at least six or seven chances to watch you play without having to get on a plane. That is HUGE. You can say NIL changes all that and for some kids it does. But kids want their families to see them play. Even with NIL, it’s a hard sell to get a kid to leave his home state or at the very least the conference foot print. Prime sees that. He’s smart, and he’s gonna win eventually, and win big.
Not exactly accurate. Nebraska was still winning 9-10 games a year under Pelini after moving to the B1G. Yes, subsequent coaches not emphasizing Texas was a HUGE mistake. Matt Rhule isn't making that mistake. It wasn't about leaving the Big XII.
Firing Pelini was mistake number one. I will still have to disagree though. Nebraska was never gonna get the major Ohio or Michigan high school players. Texas is the recruiting Mecca for teams in the BigXII and surrounding area. My point is, it’s a lot easier to recruit Texas kids when their parents know they’ve got several games on the schedule in the state. The recruitment of Texas basically went out the window with the move to the BigTen. At least in regards to the top tier Texas players. It would’ve eventually came to fruition under Pelini as well had they not fired him. Rhule is a good coach and the brand of football that will be played now is definitely gonna improve. He will bring the state of Texas back in the fold recruiting wise, but Nebraska will have to become a national recruiter. They won’t get enough Texas kids to make a significant difference being in the BigTen. He’ll make a splash at first because he’s the hot new thing, but Nebraska is gonna have to recruit more like Notre Dame to get back in the playoff hunt.
On another note, since you’re a Husker fan. What in the heck happened with Frost? When that hire was made, I would’ve bet my house that he would’ve turned you guys around.
As a Kstater, it warms my heart that the buffs and the cornsuckers have stunk so spectacularly since they left. Both so arrogant that they deserve all the mediocrity that the football gods decided to gift them. But I am happy that cu has come back to where they belong. However, I still wish for at least 25 more years of suckage for nebraska.
Is Colorado joining the Big 12 a good idea?
No
Yes, getting out of PAC-12 is a no brainer.
Yes
For the immediate term, yes. They are too small for the BIG10 (per market size) but a better fit academically. Regionally, the Big 12 is an excellent fit, but they are not academically, but does it matter? Times have changed.
This is a sports, (specifically football) move and because of that, 100% yes it is a wonderful idea. With Coach Prime’s ability to connect with young people, you’re looking at perennial top ten to top five recruiting classes. That’s all because of the BigXII footprint.
Being Liberal has nothing to do with it. That's one reason the country is divided. Keep politics out of sports.
Stfu. It is absolutely relevant when discussing the cultural differences between the PAC and the Big 12. Cal and UCLA literally had to rely on a carveout in their state law in order to be able to use school funds to travel to a lot of conservative states as of a few years ago. Not to mention the decades-long saga of the PAC and BYU, strictly for politically driven reasons.
Sure if the Libs could ever shut up with their arrogance we would love to not deal with them
100%
But thats the point colorado was liberal so they didnt like what was going on in the big 12 states.
WORD
When Colorado's AD admitted that they didn't yet have the money to pay Sanders when he was introduced the writing was on the wall. Everything hinged on a new Pac-12 media deal. It hasn't come and Colorado couldn't afford to wait.
why do all 3 of the hosts scream into the mics??? you do know the microphone actually amplifies your voice, yes?
catalina is deafening.
For people saying the liberalism of pac leadership doesn’t matter. Yea it shouldn’t yet it does this all the arrogant comments about fly over conference and truck stop conference. Leaders set tone and Libs tend to be a holes to others
Lol, you guys are always the victims.
@@james-jo5juexcept for anything that has to do with getting contracts and actual fans.
the big 12 will be just fine texas hasnt been relevant since 09 ou was the only team making the playoffs and making splashes so honestly colorado will reel in way more eyes and revenue then texas and ou have in YEARS so itll be fine i cant wait for colorado to move there it'll be fun alot of rivalries some trash talk and such college football hasnt been exciting for me in awhile now this makes me look forward to things
Buffs got beat up in the PAC. Beaten like rented mules
The coaches That the Colorado buffaloes had at the time that they left the Big 12 Conference did not know how to recruit in the west coast areas, like Washington State, Oregon,Utah, California,. Arizona,, an could not coach up players in these areas
SunDevils to the BIG12 manana
What does the bosses being liberal have to do with anything?
Means they are short siighted morons. Liberal leadership is the worst in all facets Whether it’s running the country, business state city or conference.
Well it sets a tone for fan bases. Try being a religious school playing west coast teams. They are bigoted holes
Decision making is clouded by outside pressure. In the university world, you're not the boss the liberal mob is
I no longer believe any of this......Realignment is now OVER for a number of years!!!!!
The thing nobody believes, is the insistence of any day now for the PAC contract. This league can't get a deal done. It's dead.
It will get a deal and stick together......
@@joeblow7407 They have been saying that for literally months now. They started working on the deal before the Big 12 did, and the Big 12 deal is done. I don't think there is a market for some of these PAC teams, that don't have any fans. They haven't finished a contract, because the details are going to be grim.
@@joeblow7407 😂
Since Brando brought up politics...at best, Colorado is a purple state. 62 out of 64 of it's counties use Dominion machines.
It was a purple state 20 years ago, but not anymore. The state and federal level are dominated by Democrats thanks the to the front range metro areas and the I-70 ski towns that dominate the state's population and culture.
@@mgoboski Electing bombo's like Bobert doesn't help either!
Prime will be gone by the time CU gets to the Big 12. Oh well.
I doubt it, I have a feeling prime will be around for about 4-6 years depending on how things go
@@nashmonti120I agree. I think he only leaves for FSU job at this point.
@@tlobrill1They didn’t want him, they chose little Mikey.
@@tlobrill1 not many people talk about it but I do t think prime is going to be one of those guys who coaches into his late 60’s or early 70’s, I think he’ll make his exit sooner than people think
@@nashmonti120 I don’t know. I think he genuinely likes working with kids. He’s competitive and bored. He has few things left to achieve. He makes his way back home to FSU he barely needs to recruit with all the talent. I think he’ll coach for a while. Who know bet the colorodo over. So I’ll be rooting this year lol
Did you just hear Tim Brando say that the XII is headed to EXACTLY the number of teams I have been telling you for months? 20 Teams.
To be more accurate I said 20+1. Gonzaga is the +1 because they don't play Football.
It will not be 20+1 right away. The G5s will have to wait 5 years.
Not sure when Gonzaga is added could be right away.
But beware, I have also told you that you are STILL going to lose 2 or 3 teams in the XII now.
ACC is much stronger that you believ because you keep seeing the WRONG numbers.
They are going to grab the Top 3 to 5 PAC schools and 1 to 3 XII schools to also go to 20+1.
XII will get Colorado, Washington ST and Oregon ST fo sure and 1 of the Arizona Schools (maybe BOTH). CAL could be on the table. Utah could be on the table.
Stanford, Oregon, Washington headed to ACC... NOT to the BIG.
I disagree. Big is going to want to make travel easier for the LA schools. They snag Oregon and wash so LA doesn’t travel as far. Make a push like hell ND when the Acc breaks up as Clemson and FSU go to sec Miami unc to big 10
@@tlobrill1 USC and UCLA DO NOT WANT other PAC schools involved.
Current BIG schools DO NOT WANT to have to Travel West more than they have to.
There is NO INCENTIVE for ANYONE in the BIG to add more Western Teams.
NONE.
Nope
This is just dumb. The ACC would be dead in the water if they followed your lunacy.
Why would west coast teams play in the ACC? Maybe if they don’t get invited to the B1G, but if they get to choose no school is going to pick the ACC over B1G