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I bought a Herman Miller Aeron with mesh. It was extremely uncomfortable. I gave it to my brother. He loves it. I replaced it with the Ergohuman with mesh. It was much more comfortable but I found the mesh uncomfortable after an hour of sitting. I swapped out the mesh with leather and that made it just right. I've had the Ergohuman chair with leather cushions for over 10 years now and have sat in it every day for about 8 hours. I still love the Ergohuman chair with leather. I did have to replace the armrests for $85 in 2022 as the original foam was splitting. I paid just under $700 10 years ago for the chair and I see they're now selling for over $900. I'd buy another one.
I ended up getting the Ergohuman for a few reasons -- the head rest. I like a head rest when I take breaks and when watching movies and TV. I work from home and spend about 10-12 hrs/day in this chair. I also like the lumbar support and the ability to move the seat pan back and forth. My favorite feature is the all-in-one control. It makes it easy to tweak your adjustments. I also like the resistance you get from the back rest which can also be adjusted. I am 5'8" and have no issues with the height adjustment. The only con I really have is that I cannot move the arm rests out -- I have broad shoulders and I had to get used to bringing my arms in closer to my body. Warranty wise, I think it is a good warranty for the price of the chair. I used the Aeron in the past when I worked for a prestigious law firm, but the over one thousand dollar price is a tough pill to swallow when using your hard earned cash. Personally, I think that the price of the Aeron chair is too high for what you get, but at the same time, you get that awesome warranty and it's American made (if that is your thing). In conclusion, I think both chairs are great, but the price of the Herman Miller is a big issue for most people. Then I think the Ergohuman is overpriced as well. After tax, my Ergohuman set me back close to 800 bucks which is the most I have ever paid for an office chair.
I think the majority of the shipping fee and restocking fees are built into the cost of the Herman Miller, as well as the warranty. Good to know about the Ergohuman though, because I work from home too and I also like to recline with a headrest sometimes! Helps your butt when you can distribute some of your weight into the back of the chair. I’m 6’ 2” and about 190lbs after dinner (somewhat thin for my height), do you think I should research the Ergohuman some more? Which specific model did you get?
We moved into a new building that came with furniture. There was a single Ergohuman and about 80 Herman Millers. I much preferred the Ergohuman as a larger man and had no problem sitting in it for 10+ hours a day. Herman Miller is nice and the warranty and support makes business sense but their chairs are highway robbery to come close to feature parity with the Ergohuman.
Great review. But glad there are plenty of other places to purchase from. I'd never purchase from a company that charges a 25% restocking fee. Restocking fee plus return shipping, you might as well say no returns.
I own both, bought Ergohuman more than 10 years ago and Aeron remastered a year ago. The Aeron I bought was size B, but I feel smaller than the original version and I would choose size C although I am about 5'10 and 160 lbs, suppose fit size B very well. Ergohuman quality is actually pretty good as I am still using it after 10 years, the mesh is still tight. I would say to me Ergohuman is a better buy.
@@Smood47 I do not agree with that. The new Remastered uses too much plastic compare with the original version and it also lacks some of the adjustments Ergohuman has. The only advantage Aeron has is its mesh. The mesh tighter than that of Ergohuman which is good to me but the frame is just not that high quality that I expected.
I've sat in the Aeron and it really doesn't impress me. The build quality does not feel like a $1200 chair. It feels like a $400 chair. It's not significantly better than the Ergohuman, which I actually find to be slightly more comfortable overall. That said, the Herman Miller Embody is probably the all-around best chair I've ever sat in. That thing actually feels like a $1500 chair with the way in which it perfectly curves to your back and posture while still providing adequate support.
Found both of these chairs during council cleanup days around my area. HM was in perfect condition. EH had a broken screw that cost me $1 to replace. After trying them both I decided to sell the HM for $600 as the EH was more comfortable. Crazy what people throw away these days.
I've been using the same Ergo Human chair since 2008 and I can't imagine getting anything else. I can't believe this video's comments about the build quality. With all the chrome components, this thing looks far sturdier than the Herman Miller. And the mesh seat is still in fantastic shape after nearly 14 years of use. The only thing I've had to replace are the wheels, and a full replacement set cost me like $75. I sit in this chair for 40+ hours a week, every week, and have been working from home exclusively in this chair for the last 8 years. So you could say, I recommend it.
@@MikeSigsworth I've tried replying to your comment now twice but it keeps being removed because I mention a word that you put after . on websites. I was wondering which was the official website as there are two versions called ergohuman and then there is one called eurotechseating and finally thehumansolution. Do you know which of the four it would be? also do you know whether the arm rest is removable?
I still use oldest ergohuman for 8 years. There is no problem, still working perfectly, just little bite by my dog at armrest foam. Anyone know where is i can get new armrest foam for raynor ergohuman?? Only foam not all armrest i mean
25% seems high... but considering that a returned chair will lose the ability to sell as new I think some restocking fee is reasonable. It’s like a car, as soon as a car has one owner and leaves the lot, it loses thousands of dollars in value and starts depreciating. Maybe something more like 15% would be a good balance between not taking a massive business hit due to tire kickers and the customer not being too hurt if they did their research but find out that the product will be unusable for them. The cost of shipping for heavy bulky item like a chair is higher than that of a laptop or tablet too. Herman Miller builds these shipping and restocking fees into the price of their chairs, that’s a part of why they cost so much more (and used ones cost like half as much).
Cannot decide which chair. I'm currently sat in the Ergohuman writing this - I've got around 10 days left of the 'cooling off' period where-by I can send the Ergohuman back and swap for what would be the Aeron. Sadly I couldn't test both without driving a few hundred miles so I took a wild guess and ordered the Ergohuman. The ergohuman is a lovely 'weighty' chair. Most of the frame being made from metal makes it feel hefty. The range of adjustments are nice. The mesh is supportive/comfy and it looks pretty futuristic from the back. HOWEVER!... The lower back support is what I can only describe as 'aggressive'. There's no option to adjust or decrease how harsh it presses into your low back, so for the last few days I've been having some quite nasty back-ache. Unsure if it's an adjustment period but this is what's making me think I need to swap to the Aeron.
@@kamil1686 I ended up keeping the ergo human. I saw similar complaints about the Aeron when people first use it. It takes a little time to adjust to it. I find the ergohuman incredibly comfortable now, but it did take a few weeks.
@@truuuupR there is a chair called SAMOFU Ergonomic it does everything the Euro chair can do but more with Lumbar vertical and depth adjustment for 20% cheaper than euro and Areon
Huh, my principle is usually that cheap is usually a waste of money, and the difference between midrange and high end is usually that midrange is “good enough/the sweet spot for value” and high end is “more polished/diminishing returns, with small improvements requiring a leap in cost.” This has been true with computers, cars, headphones, and even toys like lego kits. However, some things are best considered “Buy once, cry once,” where there is a clear best choice regardless of its higher price. I don’t know if office chairs fall under this category: they’re almost all better than chairs from grade school or college, and it seems that there isn’t a clear “best” choice due to how subjective seating comfort is, but I haven’t tried a Herman Miller or Steelcase chair.
Which product is more powerful and stronger in the mesh of the seating area? Ergo Human looks a little softer, so I think it will be more prone to coming lose later on. What do you think?
Could you please add "wobble" test for chairs? I have pretty pricey chair right now but i hate it because everything feels so wonky. Top of armrests wobble like they are loosly installed and backrest moves back after leaning on it even in locked position. I'm thinking about changing it to something else available in EU like IOO but i'm affraid that it would be the same.
It's definitely a good idea. The only issue is that chairs with a lot of adjustments tend to move around quite a bit. Areas of concern are definitely arms and the cylinders. Wobbling around on the armrests and cylinder can be pretty annoying! -GK
same here. I didn't pay attention and even got the chance to try it out at the store and yet I still bought it. One of the big regrets in my life. this chair really sucks.
@@dolyharianto no, it doesn't.. Ergohuman is a good chair... also they say Aeron has the feature to work in slightly upper position, while in fact it's such a marketing bs... that upper switch moves the chair so slightly, that it's barely noticeable
The video claims that the armrest does not move on the Ergohuman when you lean back, yet the video cleary show they do as the entire seat is also tilted. Have you had a chance to try out the laptop tray and foot rest that seem to be an option for the ErgoHuman or have some opintions on it regardless? Not sure if it is just a gimmic or something that could be useful. Thanks.
If you're North American or living in US and your final decision it's only about money, let me give you a tip: don't hesitate to save some money between one and another... buy a Herman Miller. In my country, most of people needs to work at least for 6 months (saving full salary) to earn enough money to get a chair like this... a regular Gamer chair costs around $1500 to $2000 (local money... not dollar) here. An ErgoHuman start in $4000 and a Herman Miller costs around $7000 to $9000. Anyway, I tried a ErgoHuman V2 chair and I loved the experience... I never tried a Herman Miller, but that brand is the TOP of TOPs... No chance to get wrong on that. Good luck!
I'm looking to buy a really good office chair. I've got an upper back injury as well as nerve damage to my arms. I'm 5'8" with radical inverted triangle body shape (that is, very broad shoulders). I have a chronic upper back injury. I went to the Herman Miller store and tried out all their chairs. I really wanted the Sayl chair, because of its great modern looks. The Embody chair intrigued me. Because I'm broad in the shoulders and I have an upper back injury, neither of these chairs provided enough upper back support. The only office chair that Herman Miller sells that really felt comfortable was the Aeron. I also saw the Ergohuman and it's a No Go. The Ergohuman chair did not provide good upper back support. It's build quality is subpar when compared to the Aeron.
Can I suggest, that you make a review of a high end or just a normal gaming chair and compare it to an office chair. A lot of people would probably want to watch that sort of comparison. Or another idea would be to review and compare several different types of chairs like office, gaming char and etc...
I love everything about the Ergohuman except the fact that it doesn't have width adjustment for the armrests. I have really broad shoulders and I need the armrests to be as wide as possible. Do you have any recommendations?
Hey guys I have a question. Why is the Eurotech POWERFIT, now featured on the eurotech website's homepage, sold as the HJH Dynafit on the HJH websites ? Just look it up... So who makes these chairs ? I mean, you don't find an Aeron copy sold by someone else, or do you ?
Eurotech/Raynor has distribution rights for the Comfort Seating line (they also manufacturer Ergohuman) in North America. It is distributed by other brands in Europe and other places around the world. - GK
So let me get this straight: 1) 25% restocking fee on Ergo 2) 5 year warranty on mesh and few other components on Ergo vs. 12 year full warranty on Aeron 3) For Ergo customer pays for shipping vs. Free on Aeron 4) Aeron will send the tech to home vs. me dragging the Ergo to shop.. I think I got it, I will go with Aeron, sounds like day stand behind their product and quality.
I tried out the Ergohuman with mesh back but leather seat, and found it a bit a bit lacking regarding the back support. Would you say that a leather/fabric back provides better support? I recall also having heard that there might be some actual differences where the non mesh back has a slightly different curve to it?
I've tried an ergohuman full mesh and hated the mesh seat as it was too firm. I'm interesting in getting the leather seat mesh back version, what do you think of the leather part? Comfy for long sitting sessions?
@@HeretixAevum Only tried the mesh one but I more felt that the mest together with the frame were just to weak. Would probably have been better with leather.
My height is 1.85 cm, so I am kind of tall. Today I tried the Aeron size C. I got so disappointed, I could feel the hard base under the mesh touching my legs, the rigid frame was unpleasant to my arms, I could not place the armrest to the front enough, no headrest, and more importantly it just felt SMALL, the size C. It would be a nightmare sitting there for more than 2 hours. I guess that if your height is 1.75 or bellow it would be a great chair, but it is clear that is not the chair for me. I also tried the embody, it is definitely better for taller people and surprisingly the armrest was really ergonomic for working, but it makes a lot of noise and I missed the headrest, so I'll try the Ergo and probably buy it
Hey, I have Ergo Plus for few months now. I'm as tall as you, and I must recommend you trying/buying the foam seat instead of the mesh one. When you seat on the mesh it feels like you are sitting very deep, and the sides of the seat are wrapping around your leggs, putting pressure on them. It takes a long time to get used to it and I still not am. I will try to replace the mesh with the foam, as it is a big issue for me. All the other options like lower back support, adjusting arm rests etc. are amazing and I highly recommend that chair. Sidenote, family member had a lower end ergo model, and after 5 years it still looks and works like a new one. Cheers!
I'm 183 cm high, and cannot perfectly adjust ergo human. Especially the seat height it's too low for me. Also I'm sliding off of the seating. I'm looking to replace the ergo human after about 4 years of using it daily.
@@michecinski Thank u. Many months have past since I chose one chair, at the end I bought a generic, tall, office chair for 163 dollars, with 3D arms, and mesh for the back and head rest, unfortunately, it has low quality foam and after 2 hours it's annoying. I didn't buy the Ergo because I broke my elbow, and the back of the chair was too wide so I could hit my elbow by mistake. Fortunately, I found one trick for the height of the chair, I bought some Polyurethane casters/wheels, then I added some small metallic rings that you can get from the hardware store between them and the sockets and they work wonders.
Please don't jack up the volume too high when you edit your video, it's tedious and needs to be turned down, then when you start talking again your voice is a touch too low to hear. Especially when your trying to sell something. Make it an easy sell. Thanks for the great info , great vid otherwise. +1
When using headphones, the music is a bit louder than the narration, but I don’t feel the need to adjust volume. If you’re just using the limited frequency response of smartphone speakers, the difference in volume might be more emphasized.
I heard a lot of bad things about the ergo chairs armrests. They're always moving, because they aren't locked. And because of the hardness, shape and missing horizontal rotation, they seem to be very uncomfortable after a few hours. What do you think about that?
100% correct about the arms. Very annoying; they are constantly moving. I think it's a total waste to have arms that rotate left and right...and particularly ones that won't lock, as you mentioned. Other than that I love the chair.
I've just replaced Ergohuman with Aeron. It would be good chair, good build quality and durability. But the lumbar support is the worst ever. It's not adjustable spring always pushing hard on your lower back. Because of this I tend to slide down the chair, to less ergonomic position but in which I don't feel that constant push from support piece. Overall Ergohuman is a good chair, way better than any no-name ikea-style cheap chairs, but once I sat in Aeron I immediately felt in love with it. I have it for too short yet to tell if it will not give me any problems, pain etc. but first impressions are that it beats already good Ergohuman hands down. Anyway the review got it wrong: lumbar support IS NOT adjustable at all in Ergohuman. It moves altogether with the whole back of the chair up and down but that's it. No force adjustment, no curvature adjustment, nothing.
Hey, hi! Thanks for useful info, one quick question What can you tell about edge of the seat of ergohuman? Judging from photos it looks like it can be uncomfortable, or sag a bit towards plastic, cutting into legs a bit in some positions, esp. when reclined.
@@pineapplethief4418 Well I had problems with legs on Ergohuman as well - sometimes my ankles got swollen after whole day of use. It's not that I felt the front edge cutting into my tighs so I can't 100% blame that piece. Maybe that was due to the fact I was sitting in wrong position in the first place, to avoid that hellish lumbar. On Aeron I also do feel a little pressure on the tights in some positions, especially when front tilt is engaged. So it's probably me. Ergohuman has the seat depth adjustment so you can try and push the edge away. I have hard time judging Ergohuman. On one hand I was using it for almost 5 years. Before I had cheap chair from Jysk and Ergohuman was day and night change to better. But recently, over past year or so, I started to have problems, back pain etc. So I switched to Aeron and like it better, also I think I have better sitting possition now, but time will tell if it was worth the change after all.
@@TheEvilVir Lack of adjustability (and price) is what worries me with Aeron. I have pretty bad case of lower back hernia and sciatica (wasn't able to sit, stand or walk for past 3 months like at all) and trying to find office chair for my special needs, seems like adjustable lumbar support, seat with waterfall edge and good reclined position with larger angle (i.e. to alternate between sitting almost straight and reclined, with notebook on a VESA-mount stand to be highly adjustable) is a key for me. Looks like ergohuman lumbar aims to be sort of fits-all. If you don't mind me asking, what's your height and weight?
@@pineapplethief4418 Well the problem with Ergohuman is that the lumbar is on non-adjustable spring-like thing. So it pushes you out of the chair with a force that you can't adjust at all. It either fits for you or not at all. I'm 193cm tall and weight around 125kg, that's one of the reasons I took Aeron C. I tried also other things like Interstuhl AirPad but the tilt tension, even at it highest setting, was too little for me and I just was falling back. On Aeron I can make that tension so tight that even I have trouble moving it (not that I set it that high, just making a point). One thing I need to recommend you: as you already have back problems, do not buy your chair just based on the internet opinions/reviews. Go and sit on that chair in some showroom/store. I traveled half a country recently, to choose my chair and I did good because my first choice was aformentioned AirPad and as great chair it is I would regret getting it because it just didn't fit me. Scores like BTOD.com gives are also, by their very design, flawed. What does 83/100 means for you and your problems? Not much. Really, take your time and check these chairs yourself, sit on them, test them.
I'd like to listen to a detailed comparison by users. BYOD could've used the V2. May be biased due to variation in sales margin. Just a speculation though.
Maybe, it depends on the reviewer. I don’t work in office chairs, but when I used to work in retail sales, I always figured it would be better for business to make sure my customers found the product they would stick with from the first time around. So, I would definitely want them to be accurately informed on the pros/cons of any product. Works out best for everyone IMO.
I'm 190cm, 100kg, I bought size B Aeron, my thighs are painful and my blood circ is dead. Why would anyone think of making a curved, hard-plastic seat. A huge - and a disappointment For Aeron.
If you look at HM’s sizing chart, it seems clear that the Size C would have been the intended fit for you. Sometimes a small change makes all the difference, and maybe the angles and sculpting would have hit your tall frame (in imperial units, you’re nearly 6’ 3” and significantly taller than most people in the US) in such a way that you would have been better supported, your weight more evenly distributed and no spots to pinch off circulation mid-thigh. Humanity has been sitting in hard plastic or hard wood chairs for centuries. Though it’s fair to say we sit A LOT more now than ever before, what we’ve learned is that shape is more important than give. Sitting on a foam cushion, eventually you hit a point of resistance where the foam stops compressing and it returns the exact same amount of “equal and opposing force” back on you as a firm chair does... it’s just the mesh and foam can conform to more seating positions than hard plastic or wood, and perhaps the foam conforms to more seating positions (but the elasticity might last less long in an individual extended seating session or have a shorter lifetime before needing the foam replaced).
If you look at HM’s sizing chart, it seems clear that the Size C would have been the intended fit for you. Sometimes a small change makes all the difference, and maybe the angles and sculpting would have hit your tall frame (in imperial units, you’re nearly 6’ 3” and significantly taller than most people in the US) in such a way that you would have been better supported, your weight more evenly distributed and no spots to pinch off circulation mid-thigh. Humanity has been sitting in hard plastic or hard wood chairs for centuries. Though it’s fair to say we sit A LOT more now than ever before, what we’ve learned is that shape is more important than give. Sitting on a foam cushion, eventually you hit a point of resistance where the foam stops compressing and it returns the exact same amount of “equal and opposing force” back on you as a firm chair does... it’s just the mesh and foam can conform to more seating positions than hard plastic or wood, and perhaps the foam conforms to more seating positions (but the elasticity might last less long in an individual extended seating session or have a shorter lifetime before needing the foam replaced). The foam pads on my gaming chair and hand me down office chair both suck, which is why I don’t feel like foam is an automatic solution. Though I feel like I’ve outgrown the styling of the gaming racechair seat, I do feel like it’s more comfortable than the school and college chairs of my past, and the cheap office chair (with foam seat) even below that. I’ll give you that the “wings” along the side of the Aeron might restrict you from having your legs out to the side more. While I still feel a size C was intended for someone your size, I’d guess from your profile picture that you’re quite muscular and the width of the seat might still not be enough for you. I’m fairly tall too (188 cm), but pretty skinny (about 86 kg), I’d be very interested if you found a chair you did find comfortable!
I had Aeron and it was so awful... you can't adjust anything... I have also no idea why each armrest has separate height adjusting with zero markings, so you need measure to have both equal... overal hated the chair, and the price is ridiculous.. I owned Ergohuman for 8 years and it was far superior to Aeron, however I found the mesh to be slightly firmer in Aeron, which I liked more...
The fact that they are even comparing them with the price difference should say something about the ergohuman. The Aeron is a phenomenal chair, but let's be honest you are paying a few hundred at least for the name.
Front tilt is definitely a unique feature that isn't common. While I don't personally like it, I can see why some would like how it positions them for tasking. -GK
The Ergohuman Plus has a seat tilt function. It's a bit more comfortable than the regular ergohuman, has more aluminium & looks a bit more luxurious. Herman Miller is still amazing however. So well built. I also have an Swedish RH chair that cost around $1500 USD 15 years ago. It's still in excellent condition so the cost /day was modest.
Kinda find it hard to believe the Arron is a better chair.. it’s simply a lot more money.. overpriced.. how is it rated higher on the lower back support than the ergo.. makes no sense... I’d agree herman Miller product are high quality chairs overall but high quality materials don’t make for better posture alone and the Herman Miller is a rip off for what your getting for the money..buy the human scale freedom over it.... headrest .,, more adjustments.. it doesn’t get its due...ergo has every adjustment except arm width it is a great value for the money
Lol you guys really hate on the Ergohuman. For example build quality - how can the HM score higher if it has more plastic elements, even if they are high quality? Also how come the EH chair get a lower comfort score than the HM even if the HM doesn't even have head support while the EH has a adjustable one. Even with you lowering scores like this it scored better in the features to price ratio. Such bias...
HM scores higher for build quality because it’s a more well built chair. A chair having a headrest doesn’t automatically make it more comfortable than another. Bias toward which chair? We sell the Ergohuman and not the Aeron remastered so the bias comments are interesting. -Ryan
@@btodtv You guys said it yourselves "we just can't sit in it" but then you go and say that it gets a high rating in comfort and put it in the A category - a chair which even you don't find comfortable.
@@btodtv I've already made my purchase at this point but I would like to see opinion on the Ergo Chair 2. Several other channels have covered it but most of them seem a bit less reputable.
stay away from ergochair i got a gift leatherr one 700$ value. Leather start coming off even i was using with a cover. IT doesnt lift up anymore. Also it slides the bottom itself sometimes. I dont know why they charging that much money for.
We have 1,000’s in the field over the last 10+ years selling the Ergohuman series. The leather coming off isn’t a common issue we are aware of. Cylinders are one of the most likely parts to break down on office chairs. In the USA, Raynor/Eurotech covers these parts for the life of the chair to the original purchaser. -GK
Me encanta como ponen a competir una silla del doble o triple de valor como la Aeron vs Ergohuman que es mucho mas barata, creo que ya se cual silla me conviene en todo sentido, por un par de mejoras de verdad debería estar loco para pagar mucho mas, me explico, si pago mucho mas quiero muchas mas mejoras, creo que cuando hagan listas deberían considerar el precio pues obvio una silla de 1500 dólares será mejor que una silla de 1000 dólares, incluso 500 como hicieron hoy
The Ergohuman is rated for 275 lbs. The closer you get to the weight capacity, the shorter the lifespan of the chair will likely be. All chairs have failures at some point, it’s just a matter of when. -GK
I just tried a Ergohuman copy. Not for me, the lumbar felt unnatural, and the way it moves around separate from the upper part of the back makes it feel cheap.
Ergohuman is a joke. It is not ergonomic at all. Only 6 cm up-down adjustable backrests and lumbar support is not adjustable. The backrests is in shell shape which does not let you to pull your shoulders back and push your chest in front for the right correct ergonomic position. That being said, it does not matter what else it is capable.
@@xostephy1 yeah I sold it. I bought the lumbar support for the aeron and it didnt really help. I also really didnt like the mesh, so cold in winter. I bought a Magnum Leather high back office chair and im very happy with it.
If you don’t mind, info would be really helpful! Was the Aeron’s lumbar not pronounced enough, or too pronounced? Was it an upper back problem? I’m thinking I’ve outgrown the flat seat/flat back of my racer style gaming chair, now that I’m actually working from home, but I’m still a relative babe in the woods (and I hated the overstuffed pillows that came with my AKRacing chair!).
Please don't buy the Ergohuman, I bought one and totally regret it. The chair is very uncomfortable and the so called lumbar support is actually hurting my back. My old $150 is actually better than this crap, too bad it broke down after 3 years.
+++ for the ergo human, i just wish their arm rest supports are made more strong.. for large ppl;D just managed to broke my left one after 5 years of use;D 1.8 m 115 kg chonker here:D p.s my office one is herman... it's better build.. but my back hurt from it:( so test before buy any of the 2 and to be honest 2 of the best or the two best work chairs you can buy...
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I bought a Herman Miller Aeron with mesh. It was extremely uncomfortable. I gave it to my brother. He loves it. I replaced it with the Ergohuman with mesh. It was much more comfortable but I found the mesh uncomfortable after an hour of sitting. I swapped out the mesh with leather and that made it just right. I've had the Ergohuman chair with leather cushions for over 10 years now and have sat in it every day for about 8 hours. I still love the Ergohuman chair with leather. I did have to replace the armrests for $85 in 2022 as the original foam was splitting. I paid just under $700 10 years ago for the chair and I see they're now selling for over $900. I'd buy another one.
Wow thanks for the tip! Did not know that ergohuman made all leather chairs!
@@monat_son it says it in the video lol
I ended up getting the Ergohuman for a few reasons -- the head rest. I like a head rest when I take breaks and when watching movies and TV. I work from home and spend about 10-12 hrs/day in this chair. I also like the lumbar support and the ability to move the seat pan back and forth. My favorite feature is the all-in-one control. It makes it easy to tweak your adjustments. I also like the resistance you get from the back rest which can also be adjusted. I am 5'8" and have no issues with the height adjustment. The only con I really have is that I cannot move the arm rests out -- I have broad shoulders and I had to get used to bringing my arms in closer to my body. Warranty wise, I think it is a good warranty for the price of the chair. I used the Aeron in the past when I worked for a prestigious law firm, but the over one thousand dollar price is a tough pill to swallow when using your hard earned cash. Personally, I think that the price of the Aeron chair is too high for what you get, but at the same time, you get that awesome warranty and it's American made (if that is your thing). In conclusion, I think both chairs are great, but the price of the Herman Miller is a big issue for most people. Then I think the Ergohuman is overpriced as well. After tax, my Ergohuman set me back close to 800 bucks which is the most I have ever paid for an office chair.
I think the majority of the shipping fee and restocking fees are built into the cost of the Herman Miller, as well as the warranty.
Good to know about the Ergohuman though, because I work from home too and I also like to recline with a headrest sometimes! Helps your butt when you can distribute some of your weight into the back of the chair.
I’m 6’ 2” and about 190lbs after dinner (somewhat thin for my height), do you think I should research the Ergohuman some more? Which specific model did you get?
We moved into a new building that came with furniture. There was a single Ergohuman and about 80 Herman Millers. I much preferred the Ergohuman as a larger man and had no problem sitting in it for 10+ hours a day. Herman Miller is nice and the warranty and support makes business sense but their chairs are highway robbery to come close to feature parity with the Ergohuman.
i just spent 5 hours researching chairs and was on the edge between these 2, thank you, i will go with the ergohuman and also saving 1000$
Great review. But glad there are plenty of other places to purchase from. I'd never purchase from a company that charges a 25% restocking fee. Restocking fee plus return shipping, you might as well say no returns.
I own both, bought Ergohuman more than 10 years ago and Aeron remastered a year ago. The Aeron I bought was size B, but I feel smaller than the original version and I would choose size C although I am about 5'10 and 160 lbs, suppose fit size B very well. Ergohuman quality is actually pretty good as I am still using it after 10 years, the mesh is still tight. I would say to me Ergohuman is a better buy.
Thanks you have 2,and choose 1 thanks
In sitting and feeling the chairs would you agree with BTOD that ergohuman has 'middle of the road' build quality and aeron is superior?
@@Smood47 I do not agree with that. The new Remastered uses too much plastic compare with the original version and it also lacks some of the adjustments Ergohuman has. The only advantage Aeron has is its mesh. The mesh tighter than that of Ergohuman which is good to me but the frame is just not that high quality that I expected.
Without question... just paying for the Herman Miller name.. this review was biased...
I've sat in the Aeron and it really doesn't impress me. The build quality does not feel like a $1200 chair. It feels like a $400 chair. It's not significantly better than the Ergohuman, which I actually find to be slightly more comfortable overall. That said, the Herman Miller Embody is probably the all-around best chair I've ever sat in. That thing actually feels like a $1500 chair with the way in which it perfectly curves to your back and posture while still providing adequate support.
Found both of these chairs during council cleanup days around my area. HM was in perfect condition. EH had a broken screw that cost me $1 to replace. After trying them both I decided to sell the HM for $600 as the EH was more comfortable. Crazy what people throw away these days.
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I've been using the same Ergo Human chair since 2008 and I can't imagine getting anything else. I can't believe this video's comments about the build quality. With all the chrome components, this thing looks far sturdier than the Herman Miller. And the mesh seat is still in fantastic shape after nearly 14 years of use. The only thing I've had to replace are the wheels, and a full replacement set cost me like $75. I sit in this chair for 40+ hours a week, every week, and have been working from home exclusively in this chair for the last 8 years. So you could say, I recommend it.
Do you have headrest? Thanks
@@LauraSofiaMoscoso Yes I do. I am 6'2" and the headrest works for me.
where'd you get the full replacement set from?
@@John9tv the ergohuman store sells all the individual parts. I tried replying with the url but I don't think YT likes that.
@@MikeSigsworth I've tried replying to your comment now twice but it keeps being removed because I mention a word that you put after . on websites.
I was wondering which was the official website as there are two versions called ergohuman and then there is one called eurotechseating and finally thehumansolution.
Do you know which of the four it would be? also do you know whether the arm rest is removable?
thanks for the review but that music is horrible.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching -GK
totally agree, it seems i'm playing "the sims".
Sounds like an international school promo video music. Expensive schools, cheap music.
@@afonsosalbrecht Afraid you’ll wake up with your bed in the middle of a swimming pool?
@@btodtv what. the fuck. is that music
I still use oldest ergohuman for 8 years. There is no problem, still working perfectly, just little bite by my dog at armrest foam. Anyone know where is i can get new armrest foam for raynor ergohuman?? Only foam not all armrest i mean
25% restocking fee, is almost like saying we don't have a return policy. That is flat robbery.
I think that is only for a no claim return. If the seat malfunctioned or something of that nature I would assume they would refund.
@Michael Walker that's just normal warranty.... 25% restocking fan is theft, I'm glad that's banned in the EU.
@@gbner9991 I think it would be bad if they are only ones you could buy from. I agree that isnt a great practice.
25% seems high... but considering that a returned chair will lose the ability to sell as new I think some restocking fee is reasonable. It’s like a car, as soon as a car has one owner and leaves the lot, it loses thousands of dollars in value and starts depreciating. Maybe something more like 15% would be a good balance between not taking a massive business hit due to tire kickers and the customer not being too hurt if they did their research but find out that the product will be unusable for them.
The cost of shipping for heavy bulky item like a chair is higher than that of a laptop or tablet too.
Herman Miller builds these shipping and restocking fees into the price of their chairs, that’s a part of why they cost so much more (and used ones cost like half as much).
So the warranty on the mesh is good for 5 years, so one can expect it to wear out in 6.
Excellent comparison... Thorough but concise and to the point... Thank you ! 👍😎
Thank you! - GK
Cannot decide which chair. I'm currently sat in the Ergohuman writing this - I've got around 10 days left of the 'cooling off' period where-by I can send the Ergohuman back and swap for what would be the Aeron. Sadly I couldn't test both without driving a few hundred miles so I took a wild guess and ordered the Ergohuman.
The ergohuman is a lovely 'weighty' chair. Most of the frame being made from metal makes it feel hefty. The range of adjustments are nice. The mesh is supportive/comfy and it looks pretty futuristic from the back. HOWEVER!... The lower back support is what I can only describe as 'aggressive'. There's no option to adjust or decrease how harsh it presses into your low back, so for the last few days I've been having some quite nasty back-ache. Unsure if it's an adjustment period but this is what's making me think I need to swap to the Aeron.
Hey so did you swap? if not did the lower back pain go away?
@@kamil1686 I ended up keeping the ergo human. I saw similar complaints about the Aeron when people first use it. It takes a little time to adjust to it. I find the ergohuman incredibly comfortable now, but it did take a few weeks.
That was probably your spine siting correctly, how is the ergo now if you don't mind?
@@truuuupR there is a chair called SAMOFU Ergonomic it does everything the Euro chair can do but more with Lumbar vertical and depth adjustment for 20% cheaper than euro and Areon
Any idea what the difference between Ergohuman Project 2 and Ultra?
Nice comparison. Thanks! My all time principle is either what is the best, or dirt economical. Mid range will always make me regret.
Huh, my principle is usually that cheap is usually a waste of money, and the difference between midrange and high end is usually that midrange is “good enough/the sweet spot for value” and high end is “more polished/diminishing returns, with small improvements requiring a leap in cost.” This has been true with computers, cars, headphones, and even toys like lego kits.
However, some things are best considered “Buy once, cry once,” where there is a clear best choice regardless of its higher price. I don’t know if office chairs fall under this category: they’re almost all better than chairs from grade school or college, and it seems that there isn’t a clear “best” choice due to how subjective seating comfort is, but I haven’t tried a Herman Miller or Steelcase chair.
Exactly my words!
Which product is more powerful and stronger in the mesh of the seating area?
Ergo Human looks a little softer, so I think it will be more prone to coming lose later on. What do you think?
How is the ergo human different than the work pro 12000 at Office Depot? It looks exactly the same.
The chairs look identical to me. Seems like the same chair, just rebranded.
Could you please add "wobble" test for chairs? I have pretty pricey chair right now but i hate it because everything feels so wonky. Top of armrests wobble like they are loosly installed and backrest moves back after leaning on it even in locked position. I'm thinking about changing it to something else available in EU like IOO but i'm affraid that it would be the same.
It's definitely a good idea. The only issue is that chairs with a lot of adjustments tend to move around quite a bit. Areas of concern are definitely arms and the cylinders. Wobbling around on the armrests and cylinder can be pretty annoying! -GK
11:40 this is most important thing where I made mistake ordering this chair online :(
Why I won't get the chair
same here. I didn't pay attention and even got the chance to try it out at the store and yet I still bought it. One of the big regrets in my life. this chair really sucks.
@@dolyharianto no, it doesn't.. Ergohuman is a good chair... also they say Aeron has the feature to work in slightly upper position, while in fact it's such a marketing bs... that upper switch moves the chair so slightly, that it's barely noticeable
The video claims that the armrest does not move on the Ergohuman when you lean back, yet the video cleary show they do as the entire seat is also tilted. Have you had a chance to try out the laptop tray and foot rest that seem to be an option for the ErgoHuman or have some opintions on it regardless? Not sure if it is just a gimmic or something that could be useful. Thanks.
If you're North American or living in US and your final decision it's only about money, let me give you a tip: don't hesitate to save some money between one and another... buy a Herman Miller. In my country, most of people needs to work at least for 6 months (saving full salary) to earn enough money to get a chair like this... a regular Gamer chair costs around $1500 to $2000 (local money... not dollar) here. An ErgoHuman start in $4000 and a Herman Miller costs around $7000 to $9000. Anyway, I tried a ErgoHuman V2 chair and I loved the experience... I never tried a Herman Miller, but that brand is the TOP of TOPs... No chance to get wrong on that. Good luck!
Thank you for the comment! -GK
I'm looking to buy a really good office chair. I've got an upper back injury as well as nerve damage to my arms. I'm 5'8" with radical inverted triangle body shape (that is, very broad shoulders). I have a chronic upper back injury. I went to the Herman Miller store and tried out all their chairs. I really wanted the Sayl chair, because of its great modern looks. The Embody chair intrigued me. Because I'm broad in the shoulders and I have an upper back injury, neither of these chairs provided enough upper back support. The only office chair that Herman Miller sells that really felt comfortable was the Aeron. I also saw the Ergohuman and it's a No Go. The Ergohuman chair did not provide good upper back support. It's build quality is subpar when compared to the Aeron.
Can I suggest, that you make a review of a high end or just a normal gaming chair and compare it to an office chair.
A lot of people would probably want to watch that sort of comparison.
Or another idea would be to review and compare several different types of chairs like office, gaming char and etc...
Yes, we can make that happen. What gaming chair or chairs did you consider to be high end? -GK
@@btodtv probably the secret lab chairs, the titan chair
@@btodtv Yeah, secret lab, titan chair.
@BTOD.com i second the secretlab titan and would add Gamechanger L and Noblechairs Epic
BTOD.com Hi guys, will you still make the video or did you give up, we are really excited to see the comparison!!!
I love everything about the Ergohuman except the fact that it doesn't have width adjustment for the armrests. I have really broad shoulders and I need the armrests to be as wide as possible. Do you have any recommendations?
I would consider the iOO. It is basically the Ergohuman with 4D arms. - GK
And I hate that Aeron doesn't have a headrest, for me that would be a perfect chair. (I know there are some custom head-rests) :)
Woot Zee they do have headrests in other countries
@@Woot-Zee then just buy a headrest for it? Lol
can you add a head rest to the herman miller aeron chair? and how much is that part?
Only 3rd party attachments. The atlas is apparently the only one recommended by herman miller, its 180 bones.
140
We're in a horrible time to buy a chair, Hearing the prices makes me jelous. Chairs are way overinflated right now.
Hey guys I have a question. Why is the Eurotech POWERFIT, now featured on the eurotech website's homepage, sold as the HJH Dynafit on the HJH websites ?
Just look it up...
So who makes these chairs ? I mean, you don't find an Aeron copy sold by someone else, or do you ?
Eurotech/Raynor has distribution rights for the Comfort Seating line (they also manufacturer Ergohuman) in North America. It is distributed by other brands in Europe and other places around the world. - GK
@@btodtv I see.. I found about the Raynor group
But there was no link pointing to hjh
Thanks for the infos, I don't know much about this stuff
So let me get this straight:
1) 25% restocking fee on Ergo
2) 5 year warranty on mesh and few other components on Ergo vs. 12 year full warranty on Aeron
3) For Ergo customer pays for shipping vs. Free on Aeron
4) Aeron will send the tech to home vs. me dragging the Ergo to shop..
I think I got it, I will go with Aeron, sounds like day stand behind their product and quality.
I tried out the Ergohuman with mesh back but leather seat, and found it a bit a bit lacking regarding the back support. Would you say that a leather/fabric back provides better support? I recall also having heard that there might be some actual differences where the non mesh back has a slightly different curve to it?
I've tried an ergohuman full mesh and hated the mesh seat as it was too firm. I'm interesting in getting the leather seat mesh back version, what do you think of the leather part? Comfy for long sitting sessions?
@@HeretixAevum Only tried the mesh one but I more felt that the mest together with the frame were just to weak. Would probably have been better with leather.
My height is 1.85 cm, so I am kind of tall. Today I tried the Aeron size C. I got so disappointed, I could feel the hard base under the mesh touching my legs, the rigid frame was unpleasant to my arms, I could not place the armrest to the front enough, no headrest, and more importantly it just felt SMALL, the size C. It would be a nightmare sitting there for more than 2 hours. I guess that if your height is 1.75 or bellow it would be a great chair, but it is clear that is not the chair for me.
I also tried the embody, it is definitely better for taller people and surprisingly the armrest was really ergonomic for working, but it makes a lot of noise and I missed the headrest, so I'll try the Ergo and probably buy it
Hey, I have Ergo Plus for few months now. I'm as tall as you, and I must recommend you trying/buying the foam seat instead of the mesh one. When you seat on the mesh it feels like you are sitting very deep, and the sides of the seat are wrapping around your leggs, putting pressure on them. It takes a long time to get used to it and I still not am. I will try to replace the mesh with the foam, as it is a big issue for me. All the other options like lower back support, adjusting arm rests etc. are amazing and I highly recommend that chair.
Sidenote, family member had a lower end ergo model, and after 5 years it still looks and works like a new one.
Cheers!
I'm 183 cm high, and cannot perfectly adjust ergo human. Especially the seat height it's too low for me. Also I'm sliding off of the seating. I'm looking to replace the ergo human after about 4 years of using it daily.
@@michecinski Thank u. Many months have past since I chose one chair, at the end I bought a generic, tall, office chair for 163 dollars, with 3D arms, and mesh for the back and head rest, unfortunately, it has low quality foam and after 2 hours it's annoying. I didn't buy the Ergo because I broke my elbow, and the back of the chair was too wide so I could hit my elbow by mistake. Fortunately, I found one trick for the height of the chair, I bought some Polyurethane casters/wheels, then I added some small metallic rings that you can get from the hardware store between them and the sockets and they work wonders.
@@dupayhydupa Thank you so much for all the information. I highly appreciate it
Please don't jack up the volume too high when you edit your video, it's tedious and needs to be turned down, then when you start talking again your voice is a touch too low to hear. Especially when your trying to sell something. Make it an easy sell. Thanks for the great info , great vid otherwise. +1
Thanks for the suggestion and watching our video! - GK
When using headphones, the music is a bit louder than the narration, but I don’t feel the need to adjust volume. If you’re just using the limited frequency response of smartphone speakers, the difference in volume might be more emphasized.
What chair would you recommend if you are going to sit in it for 8 hours a day?
Human scale freedom, Herman Miller embody, ergo human ....
I heard a lot of bad things about the ergo chairs armrests. They're always moving, because they aren't locked. And because of the hardness, shape and missing horizontal rotation, they seem to be very uncomfortable after a few hours.
What do you think about that?
100% correct about the arms. Very annoying; they are constantly moving. I think it's a total waste to have arms that rotate left and right...and particularly ones that won't lock, as you mentioned. Other than that I love the chair.
Ergo chair and Ergohuman are different chairs
I've just replaced Ergohuman with Aeron. It would be good chair, good build quality and durability. But the lumbar support is the worst ever. It's not adjustable spring always pushing hard on your lower back. Because of this I tend to slide down the chair, to less ergonomic position but in which I don't feel that constant push from support piece.
Overall Ergohuman is a good chair, way better than any no-name ikea-style cheap chairs, but once I sat in Aeron I immediately felt in love with it. I have it for too short yet to tell if it will not give me any problems, pain etc. but first impressions are that it beats already good Ergohuman hands down.
Anyway the review got it wrong: lumbar support IS NOT adjustable at all in Ergohuman. It moves altogether with the whole back of the chair up and down but that's it. No force adjustment, no curvature adjustment, nothing.
Hey, hi! Thanks for useful info, one quick question What can you tell about edge of the seat of ergohuman? Judging from photos it looks like it can be uncomfortable, or sag a bit towards plastic, cutting into legs a bit in some positions, esp. when reclined.
@@pineapplethief4418 Well I had problems with legs on Ergohuman as well - sometimes my ankles got swollen after whole day of use. It's not that I felt the front edge cutting into my tighs so I can't 100% blame that piece. Maybe that was due to the fact I was sitting in wrong position in the first place, to avoid that hellish lumbar.
On Aeron I also do feel a little pressure on the tights in some positions, especially when front tilt is engaged. So it's probably me. Ergohuman has the seat depth adjustment so you can try and push the edge away.
I have hard time judging Ergohuman. On one hand I was using it for almost 5 years. Before I had cheap chair from Jysk and Ergohuman was day and night change to better. But recently, over past year or so, I started to have problems, back pain etc. So I switched to Aeron and like it better, also I think I have better sitting possition now, but time will tell if it was worth the change after all.
@@TheEvilVir Lack of adjustability (and price) is what worries me with Aeron. I have pretty bad case of lower back hernia and sciatica (wasn't able to sit, stand or walk for past 3 months like at all) and trying to find office chair for my special needs, seems like adjustable lumbar support, seat with waterfall edge and good reclined position with larger angle (i.e. to alternate between sitting almost straight and reclined, with notebook on a VESA-mount stand to be highly adjustable) is a key for me. Looks like ergohuman lumbar aims to be sort of fits-all.
If you don't mind me asking, what's your height and weight?
@@pineapplethief4418 Well the problem with Ergohuman is that the lumbar is on non-adjustable spring-like thing. So it pushes you out of the chair with a force that you can't adjust at all. It either fits for you or not at all.
I'm 193cm tall and weight around 125kg, that's one of the reasons I took Aeron C. I tried also other things like Interstuhl AirPad but the tilt tension, even at it highest setting, was too little for me and I just was falling back. On Aeron I can make that tension so tight that even I have trouble moving it (not that I set it that high, just making a point).
One thing I need to recommend you: as you already have back problems, do not buy your chair just based on the internet opinions/reviews. Go and sit on that chair in some showroom/store. I traveled half a country recently, to choose my chair and I did good because my first choice was aformentioned AirPad and as great chair it is I would regret getting it because it just didn't fit me. Scores like BTOD.com gives are also, by their very design, flawed. What does 83/100 means for you and your problems? Not much. Really, take your time and check these chairs yourself, sit on them, test them.
Wish I could find the Ergohuman Plus for sale in the US.
Any plans to review the Ergohuman Elite?
Not any immediate plans to review the Elite. Sorry! -GK
I'd like to listen to a detailed comparison by users. BYOD could've used the V2. May be biased due to variation in sales margin. Just a speculation though.
Maybe, it depends on the reviewer. I don’t work in office chairs, but when I used to work in retail sales, I always figured it would be better for business to make sure my customers found the product they would stick with from the first time around. So, I would definitely want them to be accurately informed on the pros/cons of any product. Works out best for everyone IMO.
I'm 190cm, 100kg, I bought size B Aeron, my thighs are painful and my blood circ is dead.
Why would anyone think of making a curved, hard-plastic seat.
A huge - and a disappointment For Aeron.
You are kidding right? Should have gone for size C
@@cuongtrieu9549 Perhaps. But C is not that bigger than B. I don't think it would help me.
agreed... and the chair is suprisingly narrow too
If you look at HM’s sizing chart, it seems clear that the Size C would have been the intended fit for you.
Sometimes a small change makes all the difference, and maybe the angles and sculpting would have hit your tall frame (in imperial units, you’re nearly 6’ 3” and significantly taller than most people in the US) in such a way that you would have been better supported, your weight more evenly distributed and no spots to pinch off circulation mid-thigh.
Humanity has been sitting in hard plastic or hard wood chairs for centuries. Though it’s fair to say we sit A LOT more now than ever before, what we’ve learned is that shape is more important than give. Sitting on a foam cushion, eventually you hit a point of resistance where the foam stops compressing and it returns the exact same amount of “equal and opposing force” back on you as a firm chair does... it’s just the mesh and foam can conform to more seating positions than hard plastic or wood, and perhaps the foam conforms to more seating positions (but the elasticity might last less long in an individual extended seating session or have a shorter lifetime before needing the foam replaced).
If you look at HM’s sizing chart, it seems clear that the Size C would have been the intended fit for you.
Sometimes a small change makes all the difference, and maybe the angles and sculpting would have hit your tall frame (in imperial units, you’re nearly 6’ 3” and significantly taller than most people in the US) in such a way that you would have been better supported, your weight more evenly distributed and no spots to pinch off circulation mid-thigh.
Humanity has been sitting in hard plastic or hard wood chairs for centuries. Though it’s fair to say we sit A LOT more now than ever before, what we’ve learned is that shape is more important than give. Sitting on a foam cushion, eventually you hit a point of resistance where the foam stops compressing and it returns the exact same amount of “equal and opposing force” back on you as a firm chair does... it’s just the mesh and foam can conform to more seating positions than hard plastic or wood, and perhaps the foam conforms to more seating positions (but the elasticity might last less long in an individual extended seating session or have a shorter lifetime before needing the foam replaced).
The foam pads on my gaming chair and hand me down office chair both suck, which is why I don’t feel like foam is an automatic solution. Though I feel like I’ve outgrown the styling of the gaming racechair seat, I do feel like it’s more comfortable than the school and college chairs of my past, and the cheap office chair (with foam seat) even below that.
I’ll give you that the “wings” along the side of the Aeron might restrict you from having your legs out to the side more. While I still feel a size C was intended for someone your size, I’d guess from your profile picture that you’re quite muscular and the width of the seat might still not be enough for you.
I’m fairly tall too (188 cm), but pretty skinny (about 86 kg), I’d be very interested if you found a chair you did find comfortable!
I had Aeron and it was so awful... you can't adjust anything... I have also no idea why each armrest has separate height adjusting with zero markings, so you need measure to have both equal... overal hated the chair, and the price is ridiculous..
I owned Ergohuman for 8 years and it was far superior to Aeron, however I found the mesh to be slightly firmer in Aeron, which I liked more...
yeah it seems Aeron has the best Mesh
This 2015 VLOG background music xD
We crush the 2015 VLOG music game! -GK
Due to the price difference it is not really a fair comparison
The fact that they are even comparing them with the price difference should say something about the ergohuman. The Aeron is a phenomenal chair, but let's be honest you are paying a few hundred at least for the name.
front tilt is such a important feature but not much chair has it other than the aeron
Front tilt is definitely a unique feature that isn't common. While I don't personally like it, I can see why some would like how it positions them for tasking. -GK
@@btodtv Front tilt is most ergonomic thing that You can imagine. It's totally a most important feature.
The Ergohuman Plus has a seat tilt function. It's a bit more comfortable than the regular ergohuman, has more aluminium & looks a bit more luxurious. Herman Miller is still amazing however. So well built. I also have an Swedish RH chair that cost around $1500 USD 15 years ago. It's still in excellent condition so the cost /day was modest.
I also recommend the Herman Miller Embody. That's some amazing high quality piece of kit. It's built like a tank.
@@btodtv if you had a posterior pelvic tilt from years of hunching over at a desk you’d like it
Kinda find it hard to believe the Arron is a better chair.. it’s simply a lot more money.. overpriced.. how is it rated higher on the lower back support than the ergo.. makes no sense... I’d agree herman Miller product are high quality chairs overall but high quality materials don’t make for better posture alone and the Herman Miller is a rip off for what your getting for the money..buy the human scale freedom over it.... headrest .,, more adjustments.. it doesn’t get its due...ergo has every adjustment except arm width it is a great value for the money
Lol you guys really hate on the Ergohuman. For example build quality - how can the HM score higher if it has more plastic elements, even if they are high quality? Also how come the EH chair get a lower comfort score than the HM even if the HM doesn't even have head support while the EH has a adjustable one. Even with you lowering scores like this it scored better in the features to price ratio. Such bias...
HM scores higher for build quality because it’s a more well built chair. A chair having a headrest doesn’t automatically make it more comfortable than another. Bias toward which chair? We sell the Ergohuman and not the Aeron remastered so the bias comments are interesting. -Ryan
@@btodtv You guys said it yourselves "we just can't sit in it" but then you go and say that it gets a high rating in comfort and put it in the A category - a chair which even you don't find comfortable.
It didn’t get an A rating in comfort. It got a B rating. The reason it was ranked A overall is because of its build, warranty and adjustments. -Ryan
Are you familiar with Genidia chair ergohuman
This is very informative and concise. Thank for the great review!
Thank you! -GK
@@btodtv a fair comparison would be Areon vs ergohuman plus....
Thanks, this is really helpful!
Thanks for watching! -TK
@@btodtv I've already made my purchase at this point but I would like to see opinion on the Ergo Chair 2.
Several other channels have covered it but most of them seem a bit less reputable.
I’ve been using aeron for 5 years, looking for a cheaper option like Ergohuman worried I might complaint!
Hello, did you end up getting the Ergohuman?
stay away from ergochair i got a gift leatherr one 700$ value. Leather start coming off even i was using with a cover. IT doesnt lift up anymore. Also it slides the bottom itself sometimes. I dont know why they charging that much money for.
We have 1,000’s in the field over the last 10+ years selling the Ergohuman series. The leather coming off isn’t a common issue we are aware of. Cylinders are one of the most likely parts to break down on office chairs. In the USA, Raynor/Eurotech covers these parts for the life of the chair to the original purchaser. -GK
Mine is going solid for 5 years
Beard is back!!!🥰😍
Me encanta como ponen a competir una silla del doble o triple de valor como la Aeron vs Ergohuman que es mucho mas barata, creo que ya se cual silla me conviene en todo sentido, por un par de mejoras de verdad debería estar loco para pagar mucho mas, me explico, si pago mucho mas quiero muchas mas mejoras, creo que cuando hagan listas deberían considerar el precio pues obvio una silla de 1500 dólares será mejor que una silla de 1000 dólares, incluso 500 como hicieron hoy
i wiegh 269 will i break the ergo human if i where to buy it
The Ergohuman is rated for 275 lbs. The closer you get to the weight capacity, the shorter the lifespan of the chair will likely be. All chairs have failures at some point, it’s just a matter of when. -GK
@@btodtv where can i find a piston rated for 350 lbs
I would do a search on Google or Amazon -GK
perry dubbzz Aeron B and C are rated for 350lbs. Laura Davidson has chairs rated for 400lbs.
Very helpful
Jay is having troubles with Red Letter Media I guess....
I do see the resemblance. Lol
😂 at least he lost a lot of weight?
I just tried a Ergohuman copy.
Not for me, the lumbar felt unnatural, and the way it moves around separate from the upper part of the back makes it feel cheap.
Ive tried sitting both ergohuman and a copy. The design might be similar but they really feel different.
Guys, is the Aeron comfortable if you like to tuck your legs?
Definitely not. The the frame will dig into your legs. Embody would be the better option if you like to tuck your legs.
The popularity of the Aeron means tons for sale used at bargain prices.
Ergohuman is a joke. It is not ergonomic at all. Only 6 cm up-down adjustable backrests and lumbar support is not adjustable. The backrests is in shell shape which does not let you to pull your shoulders back and push your chest in front for the right correct ergonomic position. That being said, it does not matter what else it is capable.
only people who don't care about spending buy new AERON. there are tons of used ones
Absolutely! I've seen them used for as little as 300.
None for less than 1k in my country. Going to buy ergohuman
Gosh I like mesh in Aron but not cosm
my aeron chair hurts my back.
Sorry to hear that. Is it new? -GK
@@btodtv no its about 4 years old. Ive just purchased the lumbar attachment so hopefully that helps. if not im going to buy an ergohuman.
@@dibrentley7915 any update on your chair?
@@xostephy1 yeah I sold it. I bought the lumbar support for the aeron and it didnt really help. I also really didnt like the mesh, so cold in winter. I bought a Magnum Leather high back office chair and im very happy with it.
If you don’t mind, info would be really helpful! Was the Aeron’s lumbar not pronounced enough, or too pronounced? Was it an upper back problem?
I’m thinking I’ve outgrown the flat seat/flat back of my racer style gaming chair, now that I’m actually working from home, but I’m still a relative babe in the woods (and I hated the overstuffed pillows that came with my AKRacing chair!).
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The Herman Miller chairs hurt ... period.
I don't think you can really blame your period pains on the chair.
@@HeretixAevum lol
Ergohuman chair for me.
Please don't buy the Ergohuman, I bought one and totally regret it. The chair is very uncomfortable and the so called lumbar support is actually hurting my back. My old $150 is actually better than this crap, too bad it broke down after 3 years.
That music is so annoying I quit watching.
Thanks!! -GK
a fair comparison would be Areon vs ergohuman plus....
The Ergohuman Plus isn't available in the USA -GK
Tldw... ergoman is a waste of money and Aeron is clearly the better buy
You look a bit like Mark Wahlberg.
Thanks - GK
Are they made in China?
The Ergohuman is made in China. The Aeron is made in the USA. - GK
I can see myself hitting those plastic frames in the middle of the back rest on the Ergohuman.
But they behind the mesh
Ergohuman is the Fiat multipla of chairs.
Do Neuechair vs aeron
Okamura Contessa chair beats Neuechair hands down
I'd like to see any review of Neuechair... so far it seems to be only pretty and full of marketing, nothing else.
Kaluuye
The only person to consider spending over $1000 on a chair is Bill Gates.
So boring omg i lost brain cells
😅 true
+++ for the ergo human, i just wish their arm rest supports are made more strong.. for large ppl;D just managed to broke my left one after 5 years of use;D 1.8 m 115 kg chonker here:D
p.s my office one is herman... it's better build.. but my back hurt from it:( so test before buy any of the 2 and to be honest 2 of the best or the two best work chairs you can buy...