The Ten Best And Worst Things About God Of War: Ragnarok
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Today, we take a look at the best and worst that God Of War: Ragnarok has to offer (In My Opinion). That is all.
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I think the end should been longer and crazier. It's Ragnarok. The thing in the title. You just fights some normal goons and then fight Thor and Odin in their front yard and basement. Everything else that's cool is in the background or the cutscenes. Imagine jumping Thor with Jormungandr. Riding Fenrir or taking advantage of his portals. Maybe fighting Surtr with Freyr. A third phase with Odin. These are all obvious things to do so I know the devs thought about it.
I'd have gone the Kingdom Hearts 3 route where you it's you and the main cast vs a giant army and after that you fight a series of bosses.
Yeah in the classic GoW games the bosses have mid fight gimmicks and QTE in epic cutscenes that made the player feel in control almost all the time. Here we have Kratos getting emotional with Atreus IN THE MIDDLE OF RAGNAROK
I thought like the whole game was gonna be us playing through ragnarok.. it literally doesn’t happen until the last hour or 2 of this 20+ hour game lol what a joke
@@SayMy_User_Name Wow i don't know what gave you that impersonation
@@captainsimp8864 The title of the game
I got excited when Atreus got Ingrid because I thought they were finally giving us a Sword moveset for Atreus. Imagine my disappointment when I realized it was just an assist.
I didn't care because I already liked his combat
"I want two different playable characters to have exactly the same playstyle because I lack imagination."
@@Bounty_Hunter_McShay His combat is so easy that you barely need a brain to get through it even on max difficulty
@@owenleal "I don't realize that there's differences between chain swords and a regular sword because I'm a braindead consoomer"
@@zk0rned then come up with cool combos eith the grapple and stuff to make it fun 😧
I'd say it wasn't that Kratos was going to be worshiped. What touched him (and touched me as well) was that he had changed enough that he would be REVERED. That the people would not flee in terror at the stories of him but that he had done SOMETHING good. That was worth FAR more than being worshiped. He was finally a hero.
I agree 100% there. He already had worship over people he wanted it from in the past too. And that was when he was at his worst, lol.
That's is basically the same thing. You're splitting hairs just for the sake of it. They show them on the shrine making offerings. That's worship
@@johndodo2062 I disagree. As proven by the other gods in the series you can worship something you are terrified of to prevent it from smashing you to bits. You REVERE something that has your respect and appreciation. One is significantly greater than the other.
It really looks like he's being worshipped. Yeah people prayed to him before but their prayers were probably for violence against someone else. Not the greatest source of comfort. Now it looks like he's being worshipped out of genuine love and thanks, not because the people want something that brings death.
That was the day that gods grew good
Freya wasn’t going to forgive Kratos until she learned about colliape. It was at that moment that freya knew Kratos suffered the same anguish and regrets that she has.
I have to say I disagree about the Athena thing. I feel like the whole "You will always be a monster" "Yes but I am your monster no longer" scene made for a perfect ending to Athena's manipulation and the greek saga. The way I saw it was that Kratos was finally able to let go and not be their pawn anymore. The greek saga had a slow escalation as Kratos keeps being held by his revenge/anger/PTSD, and he never considered that they have power over him because he allows them too. There are many points he could have (and maybe should have), turned away or stopped during the old GOW games, but he didn't.
Athena showing up in GOW 5 would suggest that she has something over Kratos, and I think it makes more sense for him to be done with her permanently. He learned his lesson and moved on.
I have a feeling Athena will be back in a future game. Perhaps now that she has no power over Kratos she will try to manipulate Atreus?
@@christianherrera8560 I can see the next game having Atreus eventually go to Kratos’ homeland and it’s being ruled by the Roman pantheon (With Athena secretly running the show)
Athena: “You cannot change; you will always be a monster!”
_(Kratos then proceeds to do the exact thing Athena said he couldn’t.)_
Athena: “What the fu-“
The final payoff of the "Don't be sorry. Be better." line between Kratos and Thor was one of my favorite moments in the game.
Wasn't that between Kratos and Atreus?
@@egg_234 I mean the end of the Kratos/Thor fight in Asgard. Kratos stops fighting and says "No more. For the sake our children. We must be better."
@@masterofmythology ah aight, that's what I thought you meant but you confused me with the 'dont be sorry' part
@@egg_234 "Don't be sorry. Be Better" was between Kratos and Atreus, but Kratos tells Thor "We must be better" at the end of their fight.
@@ThatOneDudeTo yeah, both moments were awesome to see with Kratos and his big grin in the 'dont be sorry. Be better' scene and the complete parallels between Kratos and Thor- to be honest GoW thor is my definitive version of the character.
A low-key powerful scene that had me well up was when kratos bowed to Brock at the elevator
Yeah he did something genuinely nice without the guise of “oh I’ll get a reward” like he does with the wayward spirits he finds, it’s not for familial love like with Faye and Atreus, or guilt like Freya. He just does something nice for someone who’s down
@@DereBear yes exactly! And the physical showing of his utmost respect was touching
Kratos bows and reaffirms to Brok that he is whole with or without his soul bits.
I just passed this part on GMGOWNG+. Tears bro. I'm not ready for Brok's death again.
I thought the entire Ragnarok sequence at the end of the game was very anticlimactic. Jormungandr and Thor's battle gets hyped for two games and all we see is a 10 second shot of some flying dot in the sky making Jormungandr just disappear all of a sudden. Same with Surtr, he gets hyped a lot but all he does is just stab Odin's basement and disappear. Thor's fight was kinda disappointing too as he goes down really quickly and has barely any new moves from the intro fight and Odin's fight seems sorta lackluster as you mentioned in the vid. It feels like the devs were trying so hard to make a gigantic world to explore that they neglected the conclusion to the game or just didn't have time for it. I really wouldn't have minded having less to explore in Vanaheim, Svartalfheim and/or Ironwood if it meant the conclusion could have been more fleshed out and memorable.
I also can't help but feel that Ragnarok itself ended up being more of a hurdle than anything. It didn't contribute much to the invasion of Asgard, we had Jormungandur, Fenrir, the Valkyries, and the Elfs do most of the work (at least that's how it felt for me with how the game presented the battle). It didn't do anything against Thor and Odin and only ended up killing Freyr.
Freyr himself I felt his death was wasted. Besides how short it as and that we cut away from the aftermath of it, it also highlighted to me that Surtr's sacrifice brought more trouble than help.
All of this has no impact on the actual ending of the game and the resolution of Atreus and Kratos' relationship (which is great), but for a climax: all you really do is pass through some corridors, fight basic enemies, open a large door and then fight Thor and Odin.
While certainly not terrible, the ending took all the wind out of this game. How does Ragnarok (the event) feel so bleh as you stated. Still pissed a stupid wretch (alien chestburster) one-hit me on GMGOW. Such a poorly designed difficulty.
Surtr kinda felt like an afterthought, like he's only there because this is a game about Ragnarok so he has to be there.
Not to mention how during the ending battle he is nothing but a detriment and by the end the characters don't seem like they want to destroy Asgard anymore.
Kinda makes me feel bad for Surtr, he didn't want to be apart of this in the first place, they could have just left him alone and things would have mostly gone the same.
@@vlad_47 Hel's Army they do explain, they say the portal to Helheim was destroyed first meaning a majority of the army didn't get through.
Felt like a total cop out to me.
It felt more like a kids fight in your backyard rather than a war. Not to mention that Odin literally had no heavy hitters on the battlefield at that point. There was no second guessing. Everyone, even his own men, hated him so you already knew you were gonna win. Even if kratos had died, freya, freyr, and the friendly valkries would've been enough to subdue odin. Hell even add fenrir to the mix as well. It was all anticlimactic
I think Mimir asking Kratos if he's still "talking to ghosts" is a nod from the developers that Athena's appearance in 2018 was a hallucination.
That is so lame if it's true.
@katakurifan5213 I kind of agree. It makes sense that Athena was just a hallucination, given Kratos' state of mind at the time, but it does feel like a setup without a payoff. I think, if she does return, it'll be in a game where they explore a different pantheon.
You do realize that you talk to like 20 ghosts directly through both games right?
@johndodo2062 Why would Mimir bring up side quest ghosts in reference to Kratos dreaming about his past and not the actual ghost of his past from the last game?
I believe that only Kratos can see her. I wouldn't call her an hallucination but she may be only visible to him due to his greek powers. In gow3 she wasn't dead so who knows.
Seeing Kratos & Atreus' relationship grow was definitely my favorite part of the game.
If only he wasn't the worst character in the game with his constant whining and crying and now basically every bad thing that happens in the game is completely his fault.
@@mariobadia4553 i tried to give him a chance but i cant stand atreus. He's so annoying and he will not shut up.
Not to mention it's completely forced...every scene and conversation between them is just rigid and cringe
@@oneyewitness3823 i hate how they made him the main character
@@mariobadia4553 yes and how kratos says we can't do this and we won't do that...a second later follows him in doing that very thing...kratos is not kratos...this is not gow
I may be wrong but I’m pretty sure the Athena in the last game was just an hallucination, a ghost from Kratos’ past.
The prophecy was that Heimdall "INTENDED" to kill Atreus, not that he would.
Nice catch
Intention does not matter only consequences
When Atreus was annoying Kratos nearly onlocked the belt of chaos
I despised Atreus in both games. He lived up to his name. An irrational troublemaker. Hard to think of him as a hero, rather than just a product of hand-gifted fate.
That part when Atreus is running away after turning into a bear and Kratos just shouts "BOOOOY" was great, like the reverse of your mother calling you by your full name.
@@DaBearsManiac2 Honesty this game made me want Atreus to die so we could get old school Kratos again and then he goes to literally bring his son back to life.
Atreus is like a walking Durex ad.
Atreus should have gotten his own melee weapon so he wouldn't solely rely on his bow for it. Maybe like a short sword/ dagger. Something bigger than his knife but not something that would be his primary weapon in every situation.
Tbh I think he should have been given the Leviathan axe. After all it was his mother's weapon and I'd think was eventually meant to go to Atreus . Kratos gets a new weapon much later anyway.
@Katakuri Fan I don't think that really fits his playstyle, though. Atreus has always been quicker and more agile since he doesn't have the raw strength that Kratos does. He could very well grow into the axe and receive it in the next game, depending on what that is.
His mothers knife should have been. But honestly he does fine.it’s rare we get to be 2nd player, and rarer the more you play you wonder who is 1st. Kratos gets far more inventory but Atreus easily has the better companions ironically
They creators acknolwedged that they didn't want to give Atreus everything all at once. They need room to grow and add to the character, they didn't want to do it all in this game
Maybe send him to Japan & he can get a _wakizashi_ or something as his secondary
9:30 7th worst, The guys name is Birgir, now you can save him from a dragon and beat all the travelers in the area then eventually he takes over fraya old house and takes care of Charlie, he had a purpose just side mission
Am I the only one who actually liked the Atreus combat?
actually nah im a little drunk rn you entirely right short burst good long time bad
2nd edit: Birgir's sacrifice wasn't really meant to make you sad or nothin, it was just a way to open on the crater, giving dad and boy a reason to go there
And he survives anyway, so...otherwise pointless?
I like the flow of Atreus' combat, being a fan of DMC and fighting games in general, but for how long his sections end up his moveset doesn't expand as much as maybe it should have. The wolf transformation is cool, but maybe we could have him use more transformation overall. When Atreus defends Sindri or fights the 2 valkyries, he turns into a bear. Would be cool if that could be used in combat regularly alongside some other animals.
@@leithaziz2716 Exactly plus I feel like he should have magic as a replacement for the 3rd weapon we doesn't get . Like if he was studying Odins books on magic and maybe training with Freya
@@leithaziz2716 I heard that the director limited Atreus' combat for possible future installments. So in later games they can expand on his combat along with his character, i'm guessing
@@FatKratos69 Doesn't sound like a good reason considering he has less than the bare minimum.
In the first fight with thor, Thor saying things like "this feels familiar" and calling the kratos we know a "lesser version" of himself really made me think we were gonna deal with some time jumping stuff with a different twist than what we ended up getting with Tyr and im kind of dissapointed it didnt go that way. thor was such a hyped character, almost more than odin... so to have him and kratos hardly interact throughout the entire story is a such a letdown
Another thing I would have loved to see but feel the setting forgot about is that there kind of isnt any consequences to killing a god. Baldur was the one whos death actually hurt the world since it started fimbulwinter. But we got no such thing for Heimdall, Odin, nor Thor. These arent lesser gods like Magni and Modi, these are big characters who have big responsibilities and they just die with no effect on the world. Would have been great for Atreus to see firsthand what prophecies and war would lead to instead since hes so unconvinced the majority of the game
If you haven't yet, I suggest going to the crater in Vanaheim. You get there by following the dog from the camp to a cliffside where you use Freyr's boat to arrive at the crater. It explains why Thor said his fight with Kratos felt familiar. Also he's just saying current Kratos is a lesser version of the Ghost of Sparta version he's heard so much about.
@@ozairchishti1264 Yeah thats because Kratos is holding back alot. To Thor he wasn't living up to the hype. He even implied that Kratos tried more against Magni and Modi most of the fight.
@@FatKratos69 That and being more exposed to Fimbulwinter than Thor would explain why Kratos didn't live to Thor's hype. I'd say in the end we should get a glimpse of old Kratos that is more reminisce than the Heimdall Fight.
Saying that their deaths had no effect on the world makes ne believe that you are only looking for negative effects. Because it definitely did have an effect on the world. A positive one at that. With them gone. The nine realms can now rest at ease knowing that they dont have to live in fear of the aesir gods wrath and have a new all-father to worship (according to prophecy).
@@godzillazfriction In the codex Kratos says Thors' punches are "as hard as any I have felt". People misinterpret it, Kratos is saying Thor is as strong as the greek gods. With Mjolnir probably stronger.
And according to Cory Barlog in 2018 Kratos used less than 30% of his power. And in Ragnarok prob less because he canonically doesn't use spartan rage against the norse gods.
This proves he's definitely stronger he just holds massively back. And that Kratos needs to be nerfed for story reasons. It also proves what Cory barlog stated awhile back that Kratos can solo the entire norse pantheon if he didn't hold back.
I think the biggest problem (story wise) with this game is that they tried to do so much in a singular game. They should have made the Norse saga a trilogy rather than a duology. With that many story moments that fell flat would be fixed.
That's retarded.
All 5 of the Greek games add up to maybe 40 hours total with all the cut scenes. This game alone was 30 hours with 95 percent of that being actual gameplay. This argument makes no sense. Combine 2018 with ragnarok and you've got 15 or 20 more hours of actual gameplay than all the greek games combined.
Or just cut some vanaheim and iron wood sections to add this time in the final level
100 % agree. I mean, to think that the games that took place in Greece numbered 6 games.
@@tangbeinthey were much shorter games to be fair
Yeah, like, this game should've been called Finbulwinter and putted + changed some things in the story and gameplay and Ragnarok being in the 3rd game, with 2 spin-offs focused on Faye before she met Kratos and Atreus during a timeskip between the 2nd and 3rds games living with the Aesir and becoming more like the mythology-accurate Loki with obvious hints for his redemption arc in the 3rd game!
P.S: And I'm not inventing, Cory Barlog himself said that they were originally planning to make 5 games out of the GOW Norse Saga!
I definitely agree with a lot of these points. Especially those criticizing Thor, Odin, and Birgir's sacrifice.
I agree I wish Thor was a little more epic, especially since he ends up dying and it's very possible this is the last we'll see of him, I wish he had more time to develop and more scenes of badass-ery. Odin unfortunately didn't feel like a final boss. I was hoping for another spectacle and epic similar to the final fight with Zeus, I mean he's the Norse chieftain the one above all in his pantheon so I wish he had a better showing. Birgir's sacrifice also made no sense to me, the moment I saw it I knew exactly what they were going for and trying to achieve but it fell flat because we don't know this character we never met him outside of Ragnarok so while noble it failed in making us feel any emotion, you'll be hard pressed to find anyone who was sad when he jumped off that boat. All those criticisms honestly have one thing in common and it's that the Norse saga should've been 3 games. Think about it. It gives Thor an entire game to be the badass we wanted him to be similar to how Baldur had most of 2018 to himself, Odin could've had 2 games to develop, and Birgir could've become a more fleshed out character, or hell, given that sacrifice to someone else.
In a perfect world, I feel like this game would've been titled God of War Fimbulwinter, and Ragnarok would've been the third and final game in the Norse saga. Don't get me wrong, the game honestly is great for what it is and it's impressive they still wrote a good story to wrap up the Norse saga in just 2 games but it definitely felt like the pacing was off at times, sometimes even feeling rushed and a third game would've easily solved that.
@@godzillazfriction oh look another edgelord who resorts to insults instead of trying to engage in meaningful dialogue to example how I'm wrong. Grow up.
@@fivejedis dudes on every section having tantrums 🤣 just ignore him
Totally agree, 2nd game should be the struggle to fight / evade/ and prepare for Thor the destroyer, how we have to fight the secret to stand up to Thor through Faye's previous fight with him, and at the same time, we have make peace with Freya, find replacement for the Hel Bird, rally all the elves... Yet, most of this happens off screen. For a game called Ragnarok ( such a cool name ) - " Twilight of the god" , only Odin and Thor are actively involved, is just lewl to me. Heimdall's death is just out of place for no goddamn reason lol
The combat was super fun in this game and I did like Kratos in this. I wish we could see him flashback to his past at those times where he is in thought.
I actually really enjoyed Atreus's gameplay and Ironwood. It offered a nice change in variety, new beautiful scenery, a new character who was one of my favourite characters in the game, the grandmother was one of my favourite bosses in the game too, not to mention all the story aspects it added and the foreshadowing of both Fenrir coming back and Odin's demise. I also found the menu's easy to manage. I agree with most of your other points though, although I don't think athena not being included is a bad thing, because what would she had even done anyway?
Yeah Iton wood was interesting
The one thing I wasn't fond of in new GOW games is the camera. I wonder why won't they let it zoom out during combat. Also certain battle rooms are just too small and offer little mobility
I felt that. I get it in some ways, but even GTA can zoom its camera out to three different levels. I wish they had done this.
The director shed some light on this. They did it this way for two reasons:
1. So zooming in and out when aiming the axe didn’t feel weird
2. Ultimately to be unique from other action games coming out these days and the older games. This is also why they made the game a “faux souls-like.”
@@shorddy1668 hey do you have a video of Cory talking about the game?
Hardest boss in the game was the camera..
@@ponczos_2293 It wasn’t Cory talking about it but the director of Ragnarok, Eric Williams. I forget exactly what time he talks about it but he brings it up.
ruclips.net/video/bwNWUKTp4Cw/видео.html
Holy shit so technically Fenrir and Jormungandr are still Loki's children just not his spawn, now all we need is Hel but the Norse Games are done.
What made me REALLY pay attention to Tyr is how tf did Odin know i got the spear and met me at the bottom of the Dwarf realm? At that time, only Freya, Sindri, Brock and Tyr knew i was there... in my head i was like "somebody talkin too much"
I like the angrboda mission; the lore was really interesting, but the section where kill those nests pulls it down a lot
That's twenty minutes out of a 40 hour game
@@johndodo2062 that’s correct; wanna gold star? Ima all out sadly I gave the last to Billy.
Something I love about Ragnarök is the side content. There are multiple side quests that are just as good as main story quests. There's also a lot of content in realms like Vanaheim, Svartalfheim, and Alfheim that are completely optional, making the act of revisiting old places extremely fun.
The part where Atreus runs off to meet up with Odin made perfect sense to me. Regardless of what age you are or whether you’re right or wrong; being grouped up against like everyone was to him does not make someone think rationally. Helheim! Even Odin knew that which is why he sided with everyone else in the debate.
I agree. Atreus was stuck in a terrible position not being able to tell anyone what he'd been doing.
This game hurt my heart so much and I love it so much, I geared up every time the game slowed down and let the characters just talk. The open your heart Scene destroyed me both when it was Faye and when kratos told Atreus. And the riddle at broks funeral was so perfectly slipped in throughout the game and mimir saying it as Sidri left was so perfectly heart wrenching
You must be very emotional because nothing about those scenes where good...kratos is done and modern fanboys overstate the 'emotional tone" in this game...good game, bad gow game
@@oneyewitness3823 the gow franchise changed and it’s not like the first games anymore cry abt it
@@nonhovogliadipensareadunno4823 rather cry about it then admit on here I was crying with it...maybe you need to play the old series and see what real sadness and sacrifice is....
@@oneyewitness3823 oh no are you one of these repressed men who think they arent allowed to cry? Sad.
@@oneyewitness3823 new games are better lil bro
I think it should've won GOTY but, there was almost room for improvement especially the ironwood section
This game lost GOTY when they replaced Cory barlog
@@Saltytomatoe They didn't completely replace him. He's still Creative Director.
It rightfully lost to an actual video game. A movie with some good combat here and there shouldn't win GOTY
@@peteybakedziti8908 elden ring may have won, but did it have a live hurdy-gurdy performance? exactly 👍😎👍
@@radio7353 the main title screen music of Elden Ring is better than the entirety of Ragnaroks ost
Hey, don't disrespect my man Birgir. I definitely agree that he was criminally underdeveloped though. He needed more screen time than the Vanaheim section and a side quest where he goes to Midgard to live with Charlie. Man is underrated.
I must be in the minority here but I thought Kratos and Freya's reconciliation was done very well. It is established that Freya had been trying to kill Kratos throughout Fimbulwinter so her forgiveness actually took years. I also love how Kratos doesn't apologize for his actions, but he does apologize for his choice. Also, the fact that he helped her regain realm travel is a way of giving her back the freedom he took from her when he killed Baldur.
Glad I'm not the only one that felt this about Thor. I like Thor in this game. I think he's really great and serves the story and its themes well. But it's just not the Thor that I wanted to see especially after how much they hyped him up in the first game.
You're not the only one for I felt the same with Odin. there's just something missing character-wise and forgive me, character-design-wise. I don't see him as Thor's or Balder's father but more like a relative that's annoyed that he has to adopt them and can't wait to kick them out at age 18 or something. Any thoughts?
Yup Thor felt like a broken man more than a monster, except in the 1st fight.
Kratos was an absolute monster when he was younger, now he's sort of a monster that is waiting to explode, well with lots of control.
Thor felt sort of like a savage beast and a broken one at that, I think we all expected a gow 3 Kratos 2.0 in Thors' character.
Heimdall basically describes them in the game with a few words. He calls Thor a "sick man" and Kratos "monster".
He’s a murderer. Murder a lot of pum pum in Norse mythology
@@NAVEMAN3 isnt that the point? He is a unloving father who doesnt care about his kids. He only cares about his goals and the extent which he cares about his kids is directly proportionally to how much they can help him achieve his goals. The irony is that the ALLFATHER isnt much of a father at all
@@godzillazfriction Here's what I meant. Keep in mind, I have a disability so how I describe might not work for all. When I saw Balder and Freya together, I can see the family resemblance, when I see Thor and his kids I can also see the family resemblance, but when it comes to Balder and Thor with Odin I don't see the family resemblance. I don't see how Odin can be their father and I have a hard time looking for it.
As soon as I got done with the Heimdall boss fight, I restarted my checkpoint to the beginning just so I could beat him into the ground again😂
In defense of the Odin fight, fighting was never his strongest trait. Unlike Zeus, Odin is a schemer and a planner, so of course he wouldn’t be as difficult to take down as Thor or Heimdall. Still, it DOES feel slightly underwhelming for a final boss in a God of War game. Actually getting to fight Surtr/Ragnarok afterwards would have been way more climactic.
Even though that's true Odin is still supposed to be a force to be reckoned with. He may not be a warrior but he has learned almost everything there is to know about magic. I'd imagine that he's also way stronger than so called mortals I mean he did kill Thor that has to count for something right? The man carries a spear around with him too implying battle experience
@@katakurifan5213 To be honest, Thor's death feels a little cheap because it was just a sudden surprise attack through the throat that feels fairly avoidable, but you're not wrong. I'm not saying Odin has NO battle experience; he does still wield Gungnir, as you said, and he killed the First Giant Ymir.
I guess I'm just saying that even with his legendary spear and the myriad of magics at his disposal (which he certainly does make use of in the final battle), Odin ultimately doesn't have as much overall battle experience because he prefer to let others do the fighting for him.
too bad that he wasnt any good with scheming and planning. i just cant understand how people could praise this character. the only thing that he really does in this whole game is disguising as tyr (which has its own seperate problems logic wise) and even that doesnt get him anywhere. he neither gets a hold of the mask nor does he use any information he gained by learning about all their plans. even kratos admits that it feels too easy. i just dont see any bit of the „cunning mastermind“ that the stories all depicted. even his manipulation tactics of thor and his other family members is bad. there is nothing subtle or cleverly manipulative in how he acts on them. at the end he literally shouts „i think. you kill“ like you couldnt be more on the nose with how much of a plain evil guy you are. the only thing missing is a cringy clichee evil laugh.
@@cihankuzhan8928 I'm going to have to disagree with you there. We see Odin's tact on full display throughout the entire game, with the exception of a few key moments.
I mean, even with his first appearance, you can see Odin's manipulation skills on display. All he asks is that Atreus stops looking into Tyr, and nothing he says actually sounds like a bad deal: "Do this one thing and not only do I promise to leave you alone like you want, I'll even keep Freya from trying to hunt and kill you." If you read the journal entry afterward, Kratos even writes that he might have been tempted by the offer if he didn't trust Mimir's council so much.
Then we have Atreus's entire first visit to Midgard, which Odin clearly had play out like a script; he dropped Atreus outside the wall so that Atreus would have to climb, ensuring he'd meet Heimdall. Odin could then swoop in and "save" Loki from his brash subordinate, before giving the kid a tour of Asgard clearly designed to make himself look like a chill, upstanding guy to work for.
Even the Tyr deception, which you claim didn't work, does. He DID get the mask out of that, twice even, and would have gotten away with it if not for Kratos just having really impeccable aim.
As for Thor and the rest of his family? Hate to tell you this, but Odin's methods aren't far from actual abuse tactics. He has literally broken down the thunder god's self-esteem to the point that even Thor doesn't think he's good for anything other than killing and drinking. Yes, it is blatantly scummy, but so are most relationships like that when viewed from the outside.
All in all, I don't think you're giving the All-Father enough credit. It's easy to see through with the benefit of hindsight, but actually put yourself in the characters' shoes for a moment and you might be surprised how effective his tactics can really be.
@@goldlight1322 This is a late response but the main problem I have with the whole tyr disguise is the fact that Odin literally had all of the plans and ideas that kratos and the gang had and he still managed to fumble everything in the end. Not to mention, when brok started to catch on to his disguise why not prioritize gallahorn? (don’t know how to spell it) I highly doubt Atreus would still be willing to work for Odin after killing brok and based on his boss fight he can instantly teleport to a location (I’m not talking about the raven teleportation. I’m talking about the one where he levitates off the ground and teleports to the other side of the field.) had he took gallahorn instead, he would be able to control when ragnarok starts and prevent Asgard from being invaded. He can always go back for the mask another time.
These are more nitpickes than anything, but going back to GOW 2018, I spotted some mysteries or questions that were never resolved and I expected Ragnarok to answer them. To my surprise, some of those questions remain unresolved.
When Atreus becomes sick and Kratos has to bring him to Freya, Mimir states that someone blew the horn. Who was it? Baldur? Thor's son? In developer commentaries, you can see Cory Balrog (the director of 2018) tease his mates about that moment. It seemed like it was left ambigious as to be answered in the future, but we never find out in Ragnarok.
A lot of 2018's worldbuilding tends to tie to Tyr in some shape and form. It certainly felt like it was building up for us to meet him. We technically do but with Odin disguised as Tyr. The real Tyr is found in a late sidequest and you only interact with him for a total of 5 minutes.
During the second visit to Hel, Atreus looks at illusions of himself killing the 2nd son of Thor, and the way Atreus remarks that it wasn't him feels...strange. You could argue he was being exposed to his ego and being shocked, but the way its framed and how Atreus talks about it, it almost sounds like he was posessed. And in Alfheim, there was a section where Atreus has a headache and hears voices speaking to him. I'm not sure if I managed to miss what the game was actually implying at that moment. It feels like elements of a scrapped plot point. You could argue it's more of 2018's fault, but Ragnarok could have touched upon these questions.
My greatest disappointment was how short and static the final Thor boss fight was. Especially compared to how varied and cinematically climactic Baldr’s boss fight was in the previous game. Let alone Thor’s first boss battle.
Second is how sudden the climax arrives in the story. It needed more build-up to feel warranted.
Third is a contributing factor, that the final side quests were cut off until after the climax. Unfortunately this system sounds good on paper but frustrating to attempt to figure out without clear indicators that unfinished side business, can’t be finished until one first finishes the main quest line. That should be up to the player to decide.
The final boss fight was was terrible. The Berserker boss fights were more of a challenge and/or entertaining. The worst part is the potential the developers had! Imagine right when kratos had told Thor we must be better for our kids, and had a change of heart he fought alongside kratos. Odin would power up to max power (fueled by his own son’s betrayal) and launch kratos and Thor to another area where the fight can much more spectacular/destructive. In game once Thor changes sides Odin immediately drops him it feels like I’ve been robbed of a great fight scene
Fr like I really wished the fight with not just Odin but with Thor too was like Balder but on a greater scale of like mountains and shit getting wiped from the face of the earth. I also kinda wished Tyr was in a lot of the game. I was a little disappointed how 2018 built up so much character for Tyr but we never even see him until after the story in Ragnarok. I think it's a good game, except I wished some things about it was more intense from 2018, it had such a huge build up too.
@@bloodocean8389the story building in GOW 2018 was so good but it really didn't pay off in Ragnarok, such a shame
@@someone2759 well, I don't really dislike Ragnarok, I love it, I thought it was the best gow game or one of the best. I will admit, I defend it a little too much sometimes for it's flaws and can forgive them. But I will say, I was kind of expecting more y'know? I might have expected too much. In my opinion, I kinda wished Thor wasn't redeemable at all and just a peice of shit. Idk, I didn't mind where his story was going, I thought it was a fabulous idea, to have him take an opposite direction of what I anticipated done beautifully if that. But I kinda wished they kept him in the direction of how Mimir was talking about him, Odin as well. Despite the game's flaws with the story and partially the characters, the one thing that let's me forgive most of it is how Kratos evolves. So to me, even if the game has it's issues, I'm able to look past most of it because of how they only improved Kratos as a character. He's more open than he was in the other games, more wise too. I'm not sure if I make a lot of sense to you, but I hope you understand.
@@bloodocean8389 yes another great possibility, hopefully they can learn from this and build off it
Bratty Atreus is 100% appropriate given that he is a teenager and, like all teens, is trying to figure out who he is. Not to mention he has the weight of destiny on his shoulders and is the son of Kratos. I thought Atreus' moodiness was perfectly appropriate for his development as a character and as a young person.
the moment kratos get's on one knee and tells brok that the spear needs the blessing of a great blacksmith is literally th best moment for me in my gaming history ,that was perfectly done to the point where i knew that he might die , and add to the fact that he not only dies , but actually dies in the best plot twist i have seen in a long time
That part was so good. I liked it too
I’m surprised you didn’t mention as a worst, the back seating during puzzles where your partner gives you the answer before and after you figure it out
Yeah sometimes you just take your time to loot and they just give you the answer like that
Tbf the puzzles aren't a massive focus of the gameplay and I appreciated how the characters just nudge you in the right direction until it's clear you're stuck on it. Most of the puzzles were easy enough to work out that you did it before any hint dialogue anyway.
I do take issue with one thing:
Kratos WAS worshipped at the start of GOW2. More than worshipped the Spartans legitimately loved him, and were devastated when their cries for their beloved god general went unheard.
Even when taking his final breath, the last Spartan was delighted to see his God one final time.
True, but that was worship as a God of War - as someone who the Spartans would invoke to help them crush their enemies. And Kratos, the epitome of Sparta, certainly cared little for any collateral damage that got in his way.
The kind of worship he will receive now is as a God of Peace, and that's something he clearly believes he still has to work hard to live up to. Hence his line to Freya as they leave the cave after Atreus makes his exit.
Respect isn't worship. I would think the creators like Eric that have been there from day 1 know that better than you do
@@johndodo2062 It's debatable whether the creators "know" more, people can change things or forget them at the toss of a hat. Akira Toriyama, the creator of Dragon Ball, literally forgot about several characters he wrote. Does that mean that when a fan remembers them we gotta just pretend we don't because Akira must know more?
I remember watching these when I was like 5 years old and now I’m sitting here watching these again at 16. These were the good old days.
The entirw ending segement with Kratos and Atreus portion way was probably the most emotional part in this entire game
Thing made me emotional as hell for a bit
Absolutey! and the scene where Kratos sees himself as a god that people worshipped, after the entire God of War franchise that more than soldified Kratos has changed his ways from revenge and destruction, and was a very emotional scene.
Wow complete opposite...why does everyone see this as some epic love letter...this game is direction was the worst thing about it...cool scenery and bad characterization...this game does hold any emotional time as kratos scenes with his family in the og series...Atreus isn't a good character and hard to care about...emotional kratos is s forced mess of indecisiveness and intolerable writing...the writers tried too hard to make this an emotional tearjerker and failed miserably
@@oneyewitness3823 the fact you honest to god have the gall to act like the OG trilogy is a masterpiece while in the same breath shitting on Kratos getting to see that rage and hatred isn’t the only way to live when that’s the whole message of the original trilogy is actually baffling to see, honestly doubt you’ve played any of the original games and are just grifting on this games hatred
@@zazombiezmasher0116 I was already expressing disappointment in this game while RUclips and the rest of y'all where still in the honey moon stage yelling 10 out of 10...I was saying these things after I got the platinum for the new game I done made one moron look stupid with that braindead take...I traded ragnaflop for gow 3 so I could play an actual GOW GAME...2 when did I say the original og series are masterpieces(you can def argue 3 and 2 are) I said ppl keep saying this braindead game made for the bottom feeders was and it definitely is not...og series is definitely more unique, interesting and above all and most importantly fun...maybe your the one who needs to play original series and actually see for yourself that this new god of peace is mindless drivel and a sad departure... amidst your ignorance you forget that kratos is a playstation icon and not because of the new games, but rather in spite of them
@@oneyewitness3823 people have different views on things
one can be praise
one can be disappointment
and you here beings salty and saying wrong things about kratos just shows how you have ZERO idea on whats going on
That line from Odin “have you ever been worshipped!?” Really opened Kratos and the players eyes. As these gods are meant to be helpful to mortal. Yet Kratos had at that point never done anything that wasn’t for himself. He finishes ragnorak saving the Norse world and everyone in it. (The Midgard civilians, Dwarfs, Elves) as he tells everyone to leave, him and Atreus will finish it.
I disagree a little with Thor being too cold blooded, namely for the reason he can't act like young Kratos did in the older games in front of his wife and daughter. I'd only imagine Thor become cold blooded only when he'd suffered the same fate as Kratos had at the hands of Ares.
I really think they should have kept the atreus sections short like for example if kratos section is like 1 hour then atreus section should be 30 minutes it would help the pacing just a example and they should have let us use ingrid bruh i was so disappointed to find out he was just a ai companion
Agreed with both points. Tbh alot of Atreus's sections could be relegated to just cutscenes . It won't detract from anything by just watching him and Angrboda pick up fruit and other things.
Quick observation: The Athena we saw in GoW 2018 wasn't real, she was just a figment of Kratos' imagination.
Best thing: the Garm boss fight, and some of the character moments.
Worst thing: the convoluted mess of a story, and the rushed ending of “Ragnorok”
That Garm fight was terrible
@@katakurifan5213 half of this game was so Safe made by the developers, it's like a Disney Marvel film. Like they're afraid to be brutal and give anyone any type of dread or sense of loss and are even afraid to show blood in this game. It's ridiculous.
I hope you keep this same every talking about literally every from our ubi game
@@Dravianpn02 are you fucking blind? Or just a child?
@@katakurifan5213 nah it was the best. He keeps coming back and you fight him all over the level kinda like the old games it’s pretty good. The rest were not so good.
I agree with pretty much everything said here.
Also, correct me if I’m wrong but…I thought Kratos WAS worshipped in the previous games, at least by Sparta…so Odin’s full of shit when he says Kratos was never worshipped as a god.
Yeah he was definitely worshipped in 2 at the beginning. It's like the writers never played 2.
There's even a scene of a spartan speaking to him and calling him my lord .
Maybe worshiped out of love instead of fear? Idk maybe they didn't play the old games.
@@FatKratos69 I mean, they made multiple references to past games, I'm sure they know the lore. I just look at it more as Odin being full of shit and/or wanting to press Kratos's buttons than anything else
@@ULTIMATZEKROM I'm talking abt some of the writers, Not all. But it makes sense bc the director abt past references, he's pretty much been there since the beginning
one thing i was a bit dissapointed on was the removing of fist combat, i know it was kinda replaced by the spear but it was still fun in 2018 to do combos with it and the axe.
Riding the worlds slowest yak and skipping rocks turned the game down to a 7/10 for me
They should fire whoever's idea that was. Just awful stuff
It's even funnier that Birgir survives his fall, it was just random and he didn't even die because of it.
Did not like how unimpactful Thor and Jormengandurs fight was
It was so nonchalant
Ragnarok itself was pretty unimpactful too kinda disappointing since it was so hyped from the beginning of these games to basically end up being insignificant afterwards
To add onto the bratty Atreus bit, in GoW 2018, Atreus acting out and being a brat was actually and quite literally due to him having his first taste of Alcohol (he does this IMMEDIATELY after Kratos gives him a swig of lemnian wine), but in Ragnarok it's just so odd considering everything Kratos taught him in the last game alone, not even accounting for whatever else he's been teaching him for the last 3 years in-game, plus all the other characters seem to just let it go without dwelling on it when he finally smartens up.
Additionally, one other thing that I REALLY disliked was all the details and hints for how events might play out that were dropped in GoW 2018, or things from the previous game that were never mentioned or unanswered questions that were completely ignored in Ragnarok. Here's a brief list:
- Jörmungandr's venom being what kills thor, be it the serpent himself or the venom that got imbued into the Leviathan Axe.
- where on earth the father of Sköll and Hati is, since it's supposed to be Fenrir/one of the other names used to refer to him
- the flying boat used by Freyr and given to Kratos only being used TWICE, one being completely optional, despite the helheim boat trip in 2018 alluding to it having more importance
- who blew the horn in GoW 2018 while Atreus was sick (probably Angrbroda but still would at least prefer an official answer)
- aesir gods souls travelling to Valhalla by themselves (was mentioned in the previous game when Magni dies, yet neither his nor Baldur's souls are ever mentioned to have been seen in Valhalla)
- Surtr being the exact opposite of what his psychic interactions with Atreus suggested back in GoW 2018.
- Temporal magic being what allows Sköll and Hati to catch up to and eat the Sun and Moon (also them actually eating the celestial bodies in general which never happens).
It really feels like they should have built more in a second game after GOW 2018 where you recruit the armies, meet thor and ODEN but they fuck wit u the entire way and cause havoc, and make Heimdall the the main antagonist and END THE GAME with Kratos brutally killing him and then credits. How hyped would you be for the real ragnorok now not knowing if Kratos is falling back into his old ways out of necessity, you still have the mystery of oden and thor and they seem way more powerful, and u give the best bad guy in the game (Heimdall) the spotlight and then u have back to back games building to the finale with fantastic antagonists and then you go balls out for ragnorok. Just how i would have preferred it.
Finally someone speaks my mind about Freya forgiving Kratos. It made even less sense than you say, in the myth Heimdall warns Freya about Balder dying and bla bla mistletoe bla bla and Odin is not involved in here whatsoever, so in what world does it make sense that Freya says the anger should be redirected at Odin? It should be solely and entirely focused on Kratos, or even Loki for that matter. You may say Santa Monica changed it but they should definitely have explained it better, it stuck with me the whole game and cheapened the experience a bit. Great catch Mr. Bacon.
Tbh much as I love Freya I feel as though she should have gotten the Heimdall treatment forcing Kratos to go mad by maybe kidnapping Atreus just to make Kratos angry enough to fight her. Then when you get to her and they fight something that's been built up leads to her stopping and Kratos stopping as well. Perhaps she sees herself becoming a monster and hears Atreus cries of pain at seeing his father brutally beaten. So she stops and is now ashamed of herself.
@@katakurifan5213 wow you guys are really dumb. Maybe pay attention. Every single thing in this game has a reason and is developed except for the damn horn
I agree that the worst part of the game was the little teenage dream romance section. Every time I learned there was more to do I just kept getting more frustrated.
And even though the fight mechanics against Odin weren’t really final boss worthy, I have never wanted to kill a character more than him. Killing Thor for laying down his weapons, and especially for killing Brok. It felt good taking him out.
Best Thing: The Berserker boss battles
Worst Thing: Irownwood (that 2 hour drag made this game un-replayable)
Ironwood is only a problem the first time around because you want to rush. If you play through again, it's whatever because you should be able to have some patience at that point :p
@@Axel_Kasai facts facts
The only thing "bad" I would say about the combat going from 2018 to Ragnarok is that there is no longer a stance-change option for the Blades of Chaos like there is for the Leviathan Axe. Granted, the previous stance-change got moved to holding light attack, but it still feels like the blades should've had some stance-change option. Perhaps weaker versions of Wrath of Artemis and Icarus Storm as a heavy launch attack and a light sweeping attack, respectively?
I like Heimdall a lot, he was a cocky bastard to the end and that was enjoyable but I wish his boss fight had more going on.
Like they set up that the plan is to "overload his senses" with the spaer but he just falls for the same trick over and over, it would have been cool if they used the cloning ability a bit more spectacularly like having Kratos throw it at Heimdall and then it multiplying at the last moment so he can't predict it.
That mixed with Kratos' on isntict could have been fun.
In general I think the god boss fights outside of the first Thor one lack "spectacle", in Thor's second fight you're just in front of the hall throughout, at least have him throw Kratos into the air or at the wall or something.
Baldur's last fight takes place in one location technically but they give you the giant to fight with and on.
Yeah, God of War used to be the pinnacle of set pieces. It was disappointing that the last Thor fight and Odin fight were low scale compared to the baldur fights and first Thor fight.
Totally agree with all your points, especially the Heimdall fight. They gave Heimdall one of the coolest abilities ever and the reason it was cool was because it was so overpowered. Then we get to the fight and he tricked way too easily. It really diminished his character.
Even if this game didn't cover every loose end and arguably red conned some story elements, the pros over shadow the cons.
Others have pointed out the final sequence was underwhelming in terms of action, which I completely agree, another comment mentioned several obvious concepts, such as why not have a more elaborate fight against Thor like our first encounter with him? a third phase against Odin as he jumps across from realm to realm or takes on a more intimidating form? or maybe we could ride Fenrir, as we fight against the giant unstoppable giant? These are all obvious things that give it away this wasn't an oversight by the devs, but they just didn't have time to make a climatic ending.
But I also felt there were perfectly setup narrative opportunities that would improve the character interactions and motivations, such as why not have Kratos at some point save Thor's daughter, while Odin is blindly ignoring her safety while being fully focused on killing Kratos? that would give Thor a believable reason to turn against Odin. We could even fight Odin alongside Thor before Odin kills him. Everything just happened so fast that not only the action was underwhelming, but the narrative and characters shifts felt so half baked.
Wish they could've had another 6 months, or hell even another full year, to make a more appropriately climatic ending
Yeah that would have madeOdin feel like more of a threat. Another thing not explained how could Odin pose a Tyr if he never leaves the house. So he’s in 2 places at once ?
You learn more about the “guy with the big sword” who sacrificed himself if you play through the vanaheim River delta favors. You also learn a lot more about him through lore dropped by Travelers. He also may or may not be the warrior poet from the Eddas who’s married to Idunn. The goddess who’s apples increase your health.
Sure but that's all after that scene, at the point of the boat scene you hardly know him.
Didn’t help that his sacrifice is muddled as he doesn’t die and you save him in a side quest
@@reddeadspartan you could say that about every single thing that happens in any from game. Even the big characters who are supposedly important do shit that makes no sense unless you watch RUclips videos for 5 hours. I think anyone with a brain would prefer the way ragnarok did it. You can say you didn't like it, but acting like it wasn't explained is just wrong
Worst part for me by far was looking the fur cape.
I didn’t care for the soundtrack myself, of course the big ones (like the main theme and Ragnarok event tracks) are good, but they don’t stick to my memory like the Greek ones do. To me, a good sountrack is something that will be remembered, so that’s how I feel about it.
Listen to Raeb's Lament from the Brok's funeral. Best song in the game
I agree completely.
20:16 In God of War 2, literally Sparta worshipped him. The fuck?
People say Kratos has never been worshiped before but I distinctly remember one game when he's returning home to Sparta and the Spartans seem very happy to see him. One even gives him a new weapon a spear & shield funny enough.
one of the things I can't stand is you can't set custom way points on the map. I keep needing to pause just to make sure I am going into the right direction.
Ironwood.
Excellent video 😎👍
It just felt like 2 games in 1.
I felt that way also.
I think the end fight was perfect. The more I look at Odin as a character, he was never about overwhelming power, he was a master manipulator. He was more cerebral than physically powerful. I was genuinely shocked when I saw that he was Tyr.
Far from perfect
I mean, someone who is feared throughout 9 whole realms and wiped out an entire race of literal giants definitely deserved a bigger boss fight.
I agree, I thought it was excellent
It terms of game design and gameplay it is a fantastic boss fight. I could play it over and over. It’s just not over the top and crazy
@@mersunarytigre I just really wanted to see Odin ride Sleipnir. Could you imagine Kratos fighting him on an 8 legged flying horse?
That ironwood angrbodia section completely destroys my replay value
The worst Atreus got in Ragnarok was nothing compared to his god-high in 2018.
As bad as the kid got, I understood why he was a pissy unreasonable brat. He wanted to know his place in the world, what his mother and her people wanted for him, wanted to save his father from a prophesized death, needed to keep Ironwood and the only other person he could relate to a secret and he had to deal with all of this *as a teenager.* I don't blame him for his outburst, teenage me would have cracked just from one or two of those, let alone all of them combined.
You weren’t supposed to feel bad for the big guy’s sacrifice, you were supposed to cheer him on for being a badass
and the fact that he is still alive in which you can actually rescue him after ragnarok
I thought that was stupid for a totally different reason. Kratos got thrown 4 miles by thor and smashed into the ground face first, so why in tf didn't he jump off the boat instead? Or use one of his multiple projectile weapons? When he says that birgir saved their lives I had to laugh out loud. It made no sense
GoW:R was beautiful all around. It’s an improvement on nearly every aspect of the last game.
My only problem with the Ironwood section was that it was always “almost over” when something else came up. Angroboda said something along the lines of “okay, now you can go home” at least three times. The cave section with the nests didn’t provide anything to the story IIRC and could’ve been cut out entirely.
Also I agree that Ragnorök should’ve been different. Destroying Asgard seemed pointless since we killed Odin before the giant got a chance to do anything.
Someone did predict that Tyr was Odin a year ago just from the trailer
I feel that the game should have had another 10 hours for the story. Even tho it was amazing It felt empty and left me asking too many questions. Also wish the dodge was a bit better.
Yeah the dodge wasn't improved at all. My biggest complaint about the combat which aside from that is pretty great.
@@katakurifan5213 yeah. The combat could have been amazing 10/10
pretty sure they are going to make a third game so it's a trilogy
For me the obvious setup for another story, which will explain the missing giants, did takeaway from the ending a bit. If it’s with Atreus or Kratos, we’ll have to see if it pays off.
If it's not kratos it's not gow...they should remake the old ones and finally make a decent gow game because they definitely can't seem to write one on their own...cory barlog pulling a south park and sniffing his own smug shit through 50 hrs is embarrassing to kratos legacy and the entire franchise
@@oneyewitness3823 I agree. And people can call me a hater all they want for this but I will not play a game without Kratos as the main character. Especially if it's still called God of War.
@@oneyewitness3823 It’ll have Kratos, surely.
@@thomasalvarez6456 yea cameo or two
for a game that has your revisit locations alot , the map is hard to navigate with
The prophecy of kratos dying was fulfilled in the first fight. It was thors choice to revive him that broke it. If he hadn't done that, Odin could have told atreaus that the key to bringing his father back was in the mask, he would have gotten what he wanted. Thor broke one prophecy and fulfilled another in the first hour of the game, by keeping kratos around to guide the champion of the giants
It seems like 50% of the open world stuff is in vanaheim and I wish that it was spread among all the realms more evenly. Also the game is just right in length if not short!! You need to learn to do things to do them not to finish them. Play games in the moment don’t seek the end.
I will contest the Atreus gameplay sections. I feel they did a poor job laying out his different abilities but luckily i stayed in Sindris yard playing with it and there is pretty cool
Stuff you can do when you mix arrows with melee - especially once you get good at the dolphin dive mechanic.
Got to agree with the Thor, he's a brutal killer that knows that he's a monster but it would of been cool to see him more like maybe side missions.
Even I gotta admit killing that turd Heimdall is one of the most satisfying moments in Ragnarok.
Apparently Tyr's name is spelled wrong when its actually Odin. Without the umlaut (however its spelled).
That's not a umlaut. It's a German thing and doesn't look like that at all
@@johndodo2062 Honestly I don't know why I said it was an umlaut. I must have read Tyr spelled that way somewhere and just filled in the blanks.
I wish I could skip the Atreus battle scenes, especially on Give Me God of War. He can only take two hits before he's merked by the enemies.
They aren't that hard when you get used to playing as him
TBP 🔥 🔥 came to see what u got cooking ! Are you a fan of any classics? MK for the PS2? Saints row? I Always thought mk Shaolin monks took a lot of inspiration from God of War
Tbh, I wish it was longer and the whole ragnarock section could of been a lot longer and more fleshed out. For example jorm going back in time was just a 2 second cutscene
I honestly speculated that Kratos would die during Ragnarok and then fight his way out of that place Mimir said not to go to in Helheim until he made it back to a waygate to probably the final boss fight.
If nothing happened and it wasn't fun, I can understand a game dragging on. But GoWR doesn't drag on. (Except maybe Jotunheim)
I wish the game was longer, I need more! Can't understand that being a worst, let alone 2nd worst!
I can't say I ever really liked Atreus even though I did like aspects of him like his skills. He could've been handled much better.
Lovely video, my friend.
Let's hope when he's 20 alot of this will be gone.
@@katakurifan5213 I mean. He's a teenager lmao, bratty and annoying kinda comes with the packages
Okay, I’ll admit, Atreus being so angry and dismissive of his dad can get on my nerves sometimes, but then I remember that he’s a 14 year old during the events of the game.
I mean, haven’t we ALL gone through a rebellious and moody phase as teenagers? Where we lash out at our parents/guardian, and we always think they don’t understand?
So when Atreus acts out, I see a lot of myself as a teenager. Not saying it’s justified, but that I understand where he’s coming from.
Wow we have very similar thoughts: Atreus gameplay not as good as people say, Fenrir being awesome, the soundtrack being awesome, Freya forgiving Kratos way too quickly, the burger guy’s sacrifice on the flying boat not hitting right, the amazing Tyr twist… subscribed
Really wish Tyr stayed dead. The feeling of a character who turns out to be dead the whole time is one of the deepest "oh shit" feelings I can get from a game or media in general, and it isn't done often so it always keeps me off guard. Tyr ending up to be alive in the epilogue is a bit disappointing because then it's just a body snatcher story, not a corpse snatching story which is a bit more dramatic.
my only gripe is people tend to get MCU thor mixed up with actual norse mythology. the depiction of thor in this game was fairly true to its roots but chris hemsworth has changed everyone’s perspective on thor so it’s hard for some people to see the character in a different light. aIso i disagree with their opinion on the run time of the game, obviously people have jobs but shit i could have put even more hours into the game after i 100% it. personally loved this game, 10/10 for me.
P.S. rest in peace Birgir. this man did not give him his credit.
haha great video though
I honestly liked the section with Atreus and Angrboda
Same, I thought it was great
To each their own.
Then you don't like gow, u like slow, goofy,love stories
It was beautiful. #younglove
They played with balls, and she taught him how to make a snake grow, by touching it.
I disagree with the Norn sequence. I personally thought that scene was extremely well done. From the music to even the small things like the whispers and how one of the Norns plays with our main heroes by listing what they say before they do. Even when the “present” declares that fate is not predestined, with how they play with our main character’s thoughts and words, it gives the impression that the fate that is supposedly destined for our main characters are a real possibility. The 4th wall breaks along with taking advantage of Kratos’ weakness of bringing out the monster in order to protect Atreus when they establish Heimdall as a real threat, I think it shows how accurate they are on the fate of our characters. When they end it off with, “They walk away whilst Kratos grumbles” and “We loved your story Kratos.” while the music is sounding, it just seems so sick. (Especially the sequence where the Norns say that “You’ll find out that Heimdall intends to kill your son. Ragnarok will start and the skies will burn.
Exeunt omnes.” Then Kratos responds with his Dad instincts and they say that they knew he would react just like this and that it was a classic mistake in story craft to only listen to act on something based on a portion of what you’ve heard. Once Kratos actually kills Heimdall and Mimir responds with the fact that the Norns might actually be right, it gives the scene just that much impact. I honestly don’t think the rest of the story and the message of crafting your own future or doing things necessary and not because they are written would work as well without that scene. That’s my take tho.)
Wow, how did I know what #1 worst was gonna be? Lol. I see the point of the Ironwood segment, but I agree it was too long. If you break it into 5 parts, Fruit gathering, Root Gathering, the explanation of the marbles, the sinkhole, and fighting her grandmother. The Gathering parts could have been condensed together, if not entirely removed, and the sinkhole section could have been removed and I think it would have made it drag far less. I understand that it might make the story parts a bit rushed, but still better than it was.
Combat, for me would have been a 10/10 if they didn't remove the Agile Strike. That's literally my combo started whether for the axe or blades, would have been curious what moves i can combine it with the spear.