Jocko Willink SOUNDS OFF On Israel Hamas War

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  • Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024

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  • @skramzy6628
    @skramzy6628 10 месяцев назад +655

    How on Earth could you think any Palestinian would thank the IDF for indiscriminately bombing them??? I agree with commenters below, this guy is delusional. He may know a lot about the battles he was in, but he seems to know very little about this one.

    • @Gangsta1168
      @Gangsta1168 10 месяцев назад +1

      I bet you he didn't really know he fought and killed for BANKERS and CORPORATIONS.. 💵💵💯💯

    • @wikwayer
      @wikwayer 10 месяцев назад +14

      the most decorated soldier in iraq war

    • @foxhoundmj2056
      @foxhoundmj2056 10 месяцев назад +13

      absolutely. this would have been a perfect interview on Tim pool podcast.

    • @Hadrian70CE
      @Hadrian70CE 10 месяцев назад +50

      ​@@wikwayerno wonder the Iraqi war was a complete disaster

    • @documentthedrama8279
      @documentthedrama8279 10 месяцев назад +16

      Because he cant say what he thinks. he thinks this is the worst shit show for the IDF and mostly self caused. poor intel, poor response, terrible optics from the world

  • @davidprice1908
    @davidprice1908 10 месяцев назад +131

    I was in Iraq in 2006, and it was an absolute shit-show. I lost any scrap of respect I had for humans that year. We gave people money for various vile things, and it's pretty common. We ABSOLUTELY destroyed that place, and very, very few people were happy we were there, from what I could tell. I rarely tell people I was there, as I'm so fucking disgusted by being part of it. I got my helmet, medal, and other bits, and I keep them in a box, under the bed
    Jocko's a good guy, but I can't defend the military like he does. Granted, I only did 5 years as a grunt, but, I got the general idea what we were there for REALLY

    • @User0resU-1
      @User0resU-1 9 месяцев назад

      Well said. It's either in you, or it's not, to be able to see past your own brainwashing.
      Jocko hasn't got it.

    • @cleanup8984
      @cleanup8984 9 месяцев назад +3

      Thank you for your service.. You did a great thing..

    • @MaxwellMcKinnon
      @MaxwellMcKinnon 9 месяцев назад +8

      Thank you for your humanity. We need more like you.

    • @dyardsale5475
      @dyardsale5475 9 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you for your service so people like me were able to avoid being drafted.

    • @coder001
      @coder001 9 месяцев назад +3

      Thanks for being honest, I don’t know if you thought about writing a book about your days if not you should and tell everything that happened.

  • @jumpedscarab9444
    @jumpedscarab9444 10 месяцев назад +201

    Comparing Israel/Gaza to Iraq is pretty absurd. One major difference is that the US wasnt trying to eject Iraqis off their land and occupy it as US territory

    • @yossiyaari3760
      @yossiyaari3760 10 месяцев назад +15

      Nor were the Iraqi's attacking New York and Los Angeles on a daily basis.

    • @peterstafford4426
      @peterstafford4426 10 месяцев назад +4

      The other is Gaza is next door to Israel. OH yeah, and Israel has already taken 1/2 of Gaze with very few casualties.

    • @attackofthetheeyecreatures3472
      @attackofthetheeyecreatures3472 10 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@peterstafford4426Define "few casualties"

    • @yossiyaari3760
      @yossiyaari3760 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@attackofthetheeyecreatures3472
      I think he was talking about soldiers KIA

    • @peterstafford4426
      @peterstafford4426 10 месяцев назад

      @@attackofthetheeyecreatures3472 Not many? Are you proud of lacking common sense?

  • @gianni_schicchi
    @gianni_schicchi 10 месяцев назад +389

    5:35 Even prior to October 7th, the IDF has zero chance of getting support from the locals in Gaza. This is delusional

    • @tallflguy
      @tallflguy 10 месяцев назад +11

      People said the same thing in Iraq. It happens.

    • @ionisius
      @ionisius 10 месяцев назад +7

      you'd be surprised at how far a little bit of instagram, YT and porn (no need to mention electricity and water) will go in poor countries...

    • @sa7ar729
      @sa7ar729 10 месяцев назад +18

      Lol I literally thought he was informed and well educated but damn

    • @Coolinteresting876
      @Coolinteresting876 10 месяцев назад +6

      ​​@@tallflguyThat's different because local people support Hamas and protect them. Two, most people who saw videos of IDF claim conquered Northern Gaza where it pissed off local people.

    • @sa7ar729
      @sa7ar729 10 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@tallflguy not all Arabs are the same . I think the us found that the hard way

  • @TermaineJenkins
    @TermaineJenkins 10 месяцев назад +221

    The idea that Gazans are talking to IDF saying "thank you for coming in" when they're killing infinitely more civilians than hamas is just crazy. He has no idea what he's talking about. He has not seen what they've done.

    • @KalashniKEV762
      @KalashniKEV762 10 месяцев назад +7

      If he had the same experience that I did in the North, the locals welcomed the Fedayeen/ FRLs, welcomed the US, welcomed al Qaeda, welcomed the US again, welcomed Daesh, welcomed the Hash'd al Shaabi/ PMF... they're a very welcoming people! Saager should talk to a Combat Advisor and COIN SME, not a SOF guy (although at least he's talking to a *decision-making* member of a Tier 2 SOF element).

    • @Gangsta1168
      @Gangsta1168 10 месяцев назад +1

      Jocko the psycho didn't know Hamas planned for years and executed one of the best military raid in recent history.. And of course they know how the Nazi Zionist Jews would react.. 💯💯

    • @jesustreto1288
      @jesustreto1288 10 месяцев назад +1

      I agreed thank god I am not the only one thinking that

    • @Gangsta1168
      @Gangsta1168 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@jesustreto1288 what?? And you called yourself Jesus?? 😄😄😄

    • @mitchcase3830
      @mitchcase3830 10 месяцев назад

      Hamas won’t let them leave son. Do you get that? Hamas is a terrorist organization whose purpose is to kill all the Jews. Israel gave them ample time to leave. But Hamas uses them as human shields. So yes it’s tragic absolutely. But Israel want to eliminate Hamas fighters…..Hamas wants to eliminate all the Jews and……..US. Where did you get lost?

  • @RidingNomad
    @RidingNomad 10 месяцев назад +107

    I spit my coffee when Jocko said "The IDF trying to help the civilians" 😂 brah have you seen the News lately or ever

    • @ATCrogerwilco
      @ATCrogerwilco 10 месяцев назад +5

      He said they're doing the best they can which is mostly true.

    • @RidingNomad
      @RidingNomad 10 месяцев назад +20

      @@ATCrogerwilco yeah they're doing their best to help them meet God 😂

    • @mattm4610
      @mattm4610 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@RidingNomad^ facts

    • @KarnakZMZM
      @KarnakZMZM 10 месяцев назад

      The only reason Israel is now trying to “reduce” civilian casualties is because public opinion is turning against them. The mask is off and the world is seeing Israel for what it really is.
      Jews who grow up in Israel are indoctrinated to hate all Arabs. Most of the IDF soldiers have no sympathy for the Palestinians.
      And the comparison between coalition forces in Iraq to IDF is completely 💩. Israel is the occupier. They are the reason Palestinians are suffering and rightfully angry. The Israeli occupation predates the existence of Hamas.

    • @28Decimo
      @28Decimo 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@ATCrogerwilco Jocko specifically pointed out that Israel previous had a doctrine of all were combatants to the point where they wouldn’t try to rescue hostages…. That’s kinda the opposite there chief and they may have started to shift but the boat for reputation sailed after doing that for like 20+ years.

  • @mohamadhassan2693
    @mohamadhassan2693 10 месяцев назад +259

    Jocko’s Gaza take is quite delusional, unfortunately. The analogy with Iraq does not work here. Prior to or after October 7, there is ZERO chance Israel will have rapport with Gazans. Also, “my child was in the wrong place at the wrong time”….. that is hilarious.

    • @charisma-hornum-fries
      @charisma-hornum-fries 10 месяцев назад +5

      True.

    • @thinkbeforeyoutype7106
      @thinkbeforeyoutype7106 10 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly! This guy is probably one of the DUMBEST people I’ve ever come across. No wonder why America was DEFEATED in every war he served. He doesn’t have any logic whatsoever.

    • @KalashniKEV762
      @KalashniKEV762 10 месяцев назад

      Exactly- a better analogy would be if the Nazis did a Holocaust Lite and mowed the grass in the Warsaw ghetto over a generation. Would Jock-O suggest that the nazis build a rapport with the jews? At the same time that they were exterminating them?

    • @asia89572
      @asia89572 10 месяцев назад

      @@nightbrokerhis points are valid but it’s too late for them to be implemented here. There’s historical harm and just too much mistrust. And IsNotReal already murdered 20k of Palestinian being in the wrong place aka their house, church, school, hospital

    • @dragonbeardable
      @dragonbeardable 10 месяцев назад

      Even if Israel dropped all its borders, Palestinians would still attack Israelis. So many Palestinians think Israelis should go back to Europe.

  • @Pacifist_US
    @Pacifist_US 10 месяцев назад +102

    Yo he really said Palestinians are "probably saying 'THANK YOU FOR COMING IN' to Israeli soldiers"...
    Tell me you know nothing about Israel-Palestine without telling me...

    • @dibrahim08
      @dibrahim08 10 месяцев назад

      Jocko is a clown, he knows nothing or he is on the payroll to put Israel as heroes.

    • @WarKrieg
      @WarKrieg 10 месяцев назад

      Seriously. I have never heard anything so fucking stupid in this entire conflict.

    • @realshehrkhan
      @realshehrkhan 10 месяцев назад

      22:24 The populous are not a fan of either qassam or idf. They're sick of the fighting. They want the oppression to end, the seige to end, young lives not destroyed with back and forth violence.
      The idf doesn't care about the injured, they leave them to perish. These two guys are so naive. Israel doesn't want Gaza to have walmarts and other good things. They don't want the co-mingling. They want the arabs to go away and take over the whole area for themselves only.
      The moment they stop the settements, unlawfully detaining kids without charge, stop harrassing people in the west back, east jerusalem and Gaza... qassam goes away cause there is no need for them. There needs to be political solution, one person-one vote, equal rights and same level of self-determination in order to move forward as a people. From river to sea, everyone should be free.

    • @Dada-gy7br
      @Dada-gy7br 8 месяцев назад

      Clearly you know nothing about human psychology. Most people operate in survival mode. Once Hamas starts to he eradicated. The power in Gaza will be the IDF. Therefore the people will start to align with the new power in the area. Thus they will start acting nice and kind in order to win favour. It’s survival instincts. They probably still hate the IDF and Israel - depending on the person - regardless they will try to survive by being kind. It is a manipulation tactic to survive.

  • @TheQuantumFreak
    @TheQuantumFreak 10 месяцев назад +16

    Yeah. After being a prisoner since 1948, being tortured, expropriated, moved around and robbed of dignity, close relatives, let alone any material possession, a young Palestinian would certainly approach Israeli soldiers with a bouquet of flowers and say out loud "thank you for saving me from the bad guys".

  • @1Deep43VA
    @1Deep43VA 10 месяцев назад +314

    When Jocko says that in his experience he’s found , “for every one terrorist you kill, you’ve created 5 more” to not be true (though he also says he hasn’t found it untrue either) doesn’t apply to Palestine. It sounds like he had a good rapport with the local population and they at least understood that he was attempting to not kill innocents.
    Palestinians don’t have a good rapport with Israel. I think it’s safe to say a good amount HATE Israel. Not because they’re terrorist and not because they’re anti-Jewish… it’s because of what Israel has done to them. And I don’t believe Israel is actually trying to differentiate innocents from Hamas, and thus the Palestinians won’t have this introspective nature about their family’s “accidental death”.

    • @_paralaks_
      @_paralaks_ 10 месяцев назад +12

      My thoughts were more or less like yours when I heard him saying building relations with locals bla bla bla.

    • @LMZ363
      @LMZ363 10 месяцев назад

      Just understand that I was reading your message as pro-Israel until the end because it’s written exactly the same as a pro-Israel message would be written, they would just say instead that the Palestinian youth are brainwashed, mothers of jihadists are financially incentivized to indoctrinate their children, etc.
      This is a very complicated issue with lot’s of misinformation on both sides. Try not to be so black and white

    • @quadboy4lyfe
      @quadboy4lyfe 10 месяцев назад

      Well in that case you’ve made it much simpler for the Israelis to stop dropping leaflets and telling them leave areas, or allowing humanitarian efforts to come into Gaza, or keep their power on, and just let them vaporize the city. Because according to you and your pals in your replies the locals will never change their perspective on the Israelis, so why bother saving any of them?

    • @1Deep43VA
      @1Deep43VA 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@heregoes8839 Meaning, they killed the wrong person.
      How else would you have liked me to say it?

    • @adamjohnson286
      @adamjohnson286 10 месяцев назад

      Amrikaz, extremely well said.
      Yeah, it's a really bad joke. I don't know what the count is at right this moment, but last I checked the IDF had killed exactly 14 Hamas fighters, plus, what, 11,000 or so civilians.
      The war hawks and profiteers know that murdering Palestinians creates more terrorists. That cycle of violence is money in the bank for them.

  • @GbengaAdewoyin
    @GbengaAdewoyin 10 месяцев назад +570

    To think a Palestinian would point the IDF in the direction an Hamas militant is hiding willingly is absolute ignorance bro.

    • @adamjohnson286
      @adamjohnson286 10 месяцев назад +39

      Well, yeah, high level U.S. military people get brainwashed deeply, but Jocko is still a good guy.
      Colonel Douglas McGregor is a rare exception to this; he's a truly independent insider who has a heart and isn't sold out.

    • @Insan0flex
      @Insan0flex 10 месяцев назад +11

      So, should they eliminate them for "supporting hamas"? Or?

    • @synaestesia-bg3ew
      @synaestesia-bg3ew 10 месяцев назад +17

      Some would. Have you heard of Massad Yosef?

    • @bryson8918
      @bryson8918 10 месяцев назад +6

      So you just gonna pretend the PLC doesn't have opposition parties?

    • @Munthasir123
      @Munthasir123 10 месяцев назад +33

      I agree with you but in a completely different way. There is a difference. When we were in Iraq and we provided Iraqi’s a helping hand, they cooperated because they know they can have a political will eventually. For Palestinians there is no reason to help IDF because Palestinians don’t get anything in return. Look at how Palestinians are treated in West Bank and thats the best case scenario. So they are not given any good choices.

  • @tmapache
    @tmapache 10 месяцев назад +69

    I don't always agree with Krystal, but I really found myself wishing she was part of the interview to push back on some of the inane, ridiculous things Jocko said.
    The idea that a siege was simply "waiting out Hamas in their tunnels"...
    That gazans will probably think "wrong place wrong time" I the next time a refugee camp gets bombed...
    Just boggles my mind and I wish there was a more two sided convo here.

    • @angelavila8722
      @angelavila8722 10 месяцев назад +7

      Jocko: ex- Navy Seal commander for actual counterterrorism operations for over 20 years.
      Krystal: leftist journalist single mother who’s biggest issue in life is that Trump exists.
      Yes, im sure Krystal has alot of substance to add to this conversation than Jocko ever could.

    • @davidl5119
      @davidl5119 10 месяцев назад

      @@angelavila8722are you too stupid to realize Jocko has blinders for occupying forces?
      The whole “yeah, we understand you have good intentions and my daughter was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Oh well, continue your illegal mission good sir just look twice next time” what I find pretty funny from you guys, is your appeal to authority bc of experience (notwithstanding his worldview and his brainwashing). Yet, ppl like you are willing to challenge doctors w more years of experience on anything.
      I don’t get why conservative twats bend over for power so easily. Selective tho, whatever their culture war daddies tell them to.

    • @Gangsta1168
      @Gangsta1168 10 месяцев назад +1

      You would be sadly disappointed trying to have convo with a well-brainwashed psychopath like Jocko.. 💯💯
      BTW- did you know narcissists/sociopaths/psychopaths are created by genes and their environment, and there's no medical cure for the disease?? 💯💯

    • @bryanhall2860
      @bryanhall2860 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@angelavila8722lmao sooo true! 😅

    • @tmapache
      @tmapache 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@angelavila8722 she's actually married, but you're missing my point entirely. It's not that "Krystal has the best takes and is the most experienced" - FAR from it.
      My point is that Jocko's applying his experience in a different region with different circumstances and therefore is not, imo, representing the situation correctly, and Saagar is bad at pushing back on people he looks up to.

  • @godemperorletoatreidesii6971
    @godemperorletoatreidesii6971 10 месяцев назад +330

    Netanyahu told his Likud colleagues: “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas … This is part of our strategy - to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”

    • @tres311
      @tres311 10 месяцев назад +22

      “We control the height of the flame”

    • @skontheroad
      @skontheroad 10 месяцев назад

      When and where did he say that? And what was the context? Lastly, where is the Hebrew version?

    • @godemperorletoatreidesii6971
      @godemperorletoatreidesii6971 10 месяцев назад +35

      @@skontheroad a simple google would suffice my friend I’m currently at work but I will deliver as promised if you however copy and paste my quotes into google the results will appear instantly these aren’t even the most damning things he said. I’d also like to refer to you to the USS liberty incident. If you become convinced of this attitude of the prime minister I ask you honestly man to man would it change how you see things?

    • @Joe-ij6of
      @Joe-ij6of 10 месяцев назад

      Yes... this alone is enough to cut off Israel and even threaten sanctions. Rabin was assassinated shortly after the 1990s peace summit with Bill Clinton, and Rabin's body wasn't even cold in the ground before Bibi (during his first PMship) started loading up Palestine with more settlers than ever before.

    • @godemperorletoatreidesii6971
      @godemperorletoatreidesii6971 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@skontheroadRUclips is restricting some of my comments and links it’s really frustrating can I IM you? I got links to footage that generally lays down his attitude towards Americans and the Palestinians in Hebrew. I think this stuff is very important especially to us Americans although isreal is our friend Netanyahu is certainly not. He means to use us like a disposable garbage bag. He is a snake in the grass like no other.

  • @cristianvelixar1385
    @cristianvelixar1385 10 месяцев назад +107

    I am not buying it that the family of the killed civilians by US troops blamed the insurgents more then the US troops. That's either delusional or a load of crap. Sagar didn't challenge it eother.

    • @Gangsta1168
      @Gangsta1168 10 месяцев назад +17

      What do you expect Saagar to say to his hero Jocko the psycho?? 😄😄

    • @JMo-uh5cd
      @JMo-uh5cd 10 месяцев назад +4

      He was saying that he thinks many Palestinians recognize that Hamas has caused this current conflict. All of you people on here shouting that they'll only blame the IDF are just reinforcing that Israel needs to turn it into a parking lot.

    • @WilkinsMichael
      @WilkinsMichael 10 месяцев назад +7

      He is delusional about Iraq but he kind of has to be to keep sane.

    • @narmi218
      @narmi218 10 месяцев назад +12

      @@JMo-uh5cdPalestinians have suffered decades of subjugation from the Israelis so the situation is in no way comparable to Iraq.

    • @shafsteryellow
      @shafsteryellow 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@JMo-uh5cdthat's simply not true.

  • @ahmedboubaker8514
    @ahmedboubaker8514 10 месяцев назад +79

    Jocko keeps seeing Gaza from the lens of the Iraq war, not the same thing.

    • @vincer7824
      @vincer7824 10 месяцев назад +8

      Yeah there are multiple significant differences but he was open about saying that he was speculating based on his past experiences.
      I like Jocko and all but people treat him as if he’s the reincarnation of Sun Tzu and General Patton combined.
      Jocko knows that if he was in Gaza now he might have to change a lot of what he thinks about it, and would be willing to do so. He’s just guessing at the moment because that’s what being asked of him.

    • @mygotbebo
      @mygotbebo 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@vincer7824 did you forget romadi?

    • @i.ak.1684
      @i.ak.1684 9 месяцев назад +1

      30:40

    • @ahmedboubaker8514
      @ahmedboubaker8514 9 месяцев назад

      @@i.ak.1684 true!

    • @i.ak.1684
      @i.ak.1684 9 месяцев назад

      I was trying to point out that I don't think he is failing to differentiate. @@ahmedboubaker8514

  • @oboogie2
    @oboogie2 10 месяцев назад +198

    This was a good talk, but I think Jocko (as much as I like and respect him) really misses some very large points about this issue, perhaps driven by leftover indoctrination from the military (I got the same crap). I would emphasize to him: (1) Israel is not Iraq, (2) Israel has actually done some really bad things in Gaza and treated the Palestinians as sub-human, and (C) this is actually a rather clear and distinct issue and not an issue of various armed warlords and factions fighting for control like in Iraq.

    • @alexdevcamp
      @alexdevcamp 10 месяцев назад +15

      Exactly they're treating the Gazans WAY worse than the US ever treated Iraqis

    • @oboogie2
      @oboogie2 10 месяцев назад +11

      @@alexdevcampand over a much longer period (~50 years). They treat people like animals, and then they're shocked when they behave (Oct. 7) like animals.

    • @Gangsta1168
      @Gangsta1168 10 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@alexdevcampyeah.. Let's ask the native Americans on how well they have been treated after they helped Europeans survived on their lands.. 😂😂😂

    • @mr.giggles4995
      @mr.giggles4995 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@Gangsta1168i think most of them understand "they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time" and are cool with it...

    • @richjordan6461
      @richjordan6461 10 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@alexdevcampI'm really encouraged by all these comments that see through this spin. I'm not even saying the guy talking isn't sincere. He just honestly seems to believe Israel is doing a decent job protecting civilians. Not sure HOW he can think that but I think he does

  • @annri8248
    @annri8248 10 месяцев назад +57

    He is saying that the Gazans are too afraid to go up against Hamas, ok that might as well be true but at the same time he thinks that the poor iraqis that just got their family member killed would dare to stand up to the invading US soilders. He doesnt apply the same logic there. ”Yeah, they werent mad at us for killing their familes they said so themsleves, they were mad at the Guy who we tried to kill”🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @shaphyshaphy
      @shaphyshaphy 10 месяцев назад +3

      Ikr 😂

    • @GBL99999
      @GBL99999 10 месяцев назад

      He’s clearly not very smart lol Iraqis hated him when he was there they fought a bloody resistance war against the US and to this they still hate the US which is why they are currently attacking US bases in the area and their biggest ally is Iran

    • @russell-gt1dy
      @russell-gt1dy 9 месяцев назад

      That isn't what the US did at all. They went to remove Saddam, not to war with the Iraqi people. They tried and failed to maintain peace between Sunni/Shia in this power vacuum that claims the most deaths. Saddam was holding inspectors hostage when a Pakistani nuclear engineer named AQ Khan is on television bragging about building illegal nuclear programs in the region. While Saddam is sitting on hundreds of tonnes of yellowcake and giving the finger to the IAEA. In the wake of 9/11 that isn't gonna slide

  • @burcoman990
    @burcoman990 10 месяцев назад +68

    I don't think Jocko knows this conflict too well.

    • @vmoses1979
      @vmoses1979 10 месяцев назад +6

      Yeah this is dumb. Talking about technology as something that wins wars. Tell that to the Taliban against the US.

    • @KarnakZMZM
      @KarnakZMZM 10 месяцев назад +4

      Jocko has no idea

    • @curiouspeople6441
      @curiouspeople6441 10 месяцев назад +2

      Jocko is a 💪🏻 Muscle head , what do you think ? If he is so smart he won’t be a pawn ♟️ for Washington to Control

    • @rachelmropp
      @rachelmropp 10 месяцев назад +8

      First impression - he is TOTALLY ignorant of the history of this conflict and thinks it all started on Oct 7.

    • @sampats89
      @sampats89 10 месяцев назад

      As soon as he said that Israel are moving into a ground invasion.. I was like this guy huffs glue for sure. Israel is just bombing children.

  • @ianbrown7085
    @ianbrown7085 10 месяцев назад +218

    So.... 2 of Jocko's 4 children get killed by bombing. The people who dropped the bomb say "Sorry Jocko - here is some money for your 2 dead children". Jocko says "thank you for the money, I'm cool with that"...... Yeah..... I don't think so!

    • @JackCrossSama
      @JackCrossSama 10 месяцев назад

      The whole invasion of the middle east was such a shit show we went there under false pretenses because of 911, and to make matters worse we left causing chaos in the region. The right move would have been to stay their permanently and continued to try to help the population.

    • @playea123
      @playea123 10 месяцев назад +17

      I mean to call him delusional or propagandistic is laughably inadequate. Guy lives in a different realm entirely

    • @jeffreylysen7647
      @jeffreylysen7647 10 месяцев назад +8

      The question is, why were your children killed in a bombing?

    • @playea123
      @playea123 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@jeffreylysen7647 is that really the question? Are kids known for their amazing discernibility and knowledge of their surroundings and the intentions of strangers? What about if a bad guy runs into a school and the school gets blown up?

    • @jeffreylysen7647
      @jeffreylysen7647 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@playea123 I'm just curious your thoughts. Given I have been to this part of the world for various reasons, many times, and want to know why you think Israel might bomb certain areas.

  • @buddha2923
    @buddha2923 10 месяцев назад +74

    Ok ooof those first 10 minutes where he’s imagining that Palestinians will be more mad at Hamas than Israel… I appreciate jockos viewpoint but he may need to talk to some Palestinians because he may be a bit out of touch with this specific conflict

    • @Oshowski
      @Oshowski 10 месяцев назад +17

      he is very out of touch, completely does not understands 100 years of ethnic cleansing and imprisonment

    • @FluorinatedMonomer
      @FluorinatedMonomer 10 месяцев назад +3

      I think what he's trying to say is that if you adopt the strategy of actually treating the people fairly, helping them, working with them and painting a clear contrast between yourself and the insurgents, then that's how people will start to feel. I would need to listen again, but I don't think he was saying that this is the situation currently. He goes on to talk about how they specifically didn't level Ramadi, seemingly in contrast with what is happening in Gaza. I think he's advocating for the only strategy that could possibly change the views of the Palestinians, which is to begin treating them humanely.
      Edit: Only reacting to the first ten min, still listening to the rest of it...

    • @Gangsta1168
      @Gangsta1168 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@FluorinatedMonomer so you think the Nazi Zionist Jews only been abusing the Palestinians for 10 minutes?? 😄😄😄

    • @asia89572
      @asia89572 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@FluorinatedMonomerthat’s not possible after 100 years of murder and thief and second class citizenship aka no rights

    • @FluorinatedMonomer
      @FluorinatedMonomer 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@asia89572 What is a strategy that the Israelis could use that would protect them from future terror attacks and also move toward peace with the Palestinians? To me, it seems like what Jocko is advocating is at least a move in the right direction, but I'm genuinely curious to know your thoughts. Given the current situation, what should Israel realistically do now?

  • @Evan-iq8hd
    @Evan-iq8hd 10 месяцев назад +130

    I liked Jocko's story about working with Sheikh's in Ramadi. I come from Fallujah and was there during the occupation. I can confirm his story about working with local sheikhs as I've seen it with my own eyes. I've seen local "sheikh" getting paid in duffle bags of cash to encourage his people not to attack coalition forces. A couple of weeks later, the "sheikh" and his associates were rolling around in brand new armoured Land Cruisers and attacks on coalition soldiers were going as per normal.
    I'm assuming the US local commander in my town had the same view as Jocko. What he failed to understand is that if the "Sheikh" even hinted to anyone about not attacking the invaders, that would have been a death sentence for him. So the US commander ended up funding the "Sheikh's" lifestyle for nothing in return. But I'm sure he wrote a nice report to the higher ups about how he's "working with local leaders to win hearts and minds".
    Jocko is either lying or just delusional. My bet is on delusional since Americans in general have a hero complex.

    • @PurpleMonkeyDishwasher88
      @PurpleMonkeyDishwasher88 10 месяцев назад +15

      As an American I have heard such stories from other Iraqi's, and I believe they also did the same in Afghanistan. Definitely other investigative outlets have confirmed as much. This guy is just getting high on his own inflated sense of self worth. So the delusion is definitely sky high for sure.

    • @Gangsta1168
      @Gangsta1168 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@PurpleMonkeyDishwasher88 Jocko is a classic narcissistic psychopath that's typical of politicians, generals, judges, cops, CEOs, BANKERS, doctors, lawyers, preachers, kings, queens, media, sales, etc.. that 💘 power and 💵,💘 to dictate how others live and die, and 💘 to be admired and adored like GODS.. 💯💯

    • @Gangsta1168
      @Gangsta1168 10 месяцев назад +1

      🇺🇸 didn't become a superpower without a bunch of narcissists/sociopaths/psychopaths who believed they're exceptional.. 💯💯

    • @andrewkabbe3684
      @andrewkabbe3684 10 месяцев назад

      A few more discrepancies on the comparisons here. 1. these are NOT insurgents. these are the sons of locals so you will not effectively mitigate the population by paying a local sheik to build a bridge. 2. These are Jews going into Gaza so here will be no hearts and minds won and there are 1600 years of evidence to support this. 3. There were no rocket attacks landing on Jocko's wife and kids while he went into Ramadi so no need to expedite the occupation so he could let the "siege do its thing" and Jocko had never lost his own children in prior attacks. 4. Vivak incorrectly refers to Mosel as good example of how to employ tactics. I was there and they leveled the city block by block with almost no regard for civilian population(official casualty estimates from Mosel are a farce cooked up to support the government in Bahgdad) , It just wasn't discussed in the media because there were no Jews involved. 5. Finally instead of 300 insurgents they have to get 30,000 who have had 13 years to prepare for this.

    • @williamschlass6371
      @williamschlass6371 10 месяцев назад +3

      Cant you both be right?

  • @Cryptix001
    @Cryptix001 10 месяцев назад +300

    Its funny how he talks about people showing support for the guys in charge in Gaza, then pivots to how he didn't see animosity when they killed civilians. Like yeah bro, that's cause you were in charge there! Wait till you leave!

    • @terriej123
      @terriej123 10 месяцев назад +7

      Exactly

    • @KalashniKEV762
      @KalashniKEV762 10 месяцев назад +15

      That's because his "deployment" was 90 days long, and the battlespace owner had to deal with the aftermath after he left.

    • @basilalfehaid4423
      @basilalfehaid4423 10 месяцев назад +11

      it's very different circumstances I don't know why jaco isn't being challenged by the fact that the Shia Iraqis hated Al Qaeda because it was soni Muslims not the Case in Gaza they are all brothers and sisters you can't easily take them on your side like you did in Iraq and Israel knows this

    • @ludwigvonsowell5347
      @ludwigvonsowell5347 10 месяцев назад +5

      Afghanistan, where as soon as we left they all surrendered or joined the taliban. 20 years down the crapper

    • @shafsteryellow
      @shafsteryellow 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@ludwigvonsowell5347😂 what was the original mission objective for invading Afghanistan?

  • @michaelhomes8049
    @michaelhomes8049 10 месяцев назад +138

    Damn. Saagar looks great in the Oppenheimer sequel

    • @Menaceblue3
      @Menaceblue3 10 месяцев назад +1

      When Saagar Enjetti said, "Its SAAGARING time!"
      I literally bought Breaking Points merchandise and built an altar to Krystal Ball....

  • @leanslocks2477
    @leanslocks2477 10 месяцев назад +104

    After listening to Jocko I now know why the Middle East was such a disaster... how could he be so out of touch on this? Like the guy, thank him for his service, but wow.

    • @chiefkaha5650
      @chiefkaha5650 10 месяцев назад +2

      What part did you disagree with?

    • @vinbakeshow8709
      @vinbakeshow8709 10 месяцев назад +26

      @@chiefkaha5650he thinks that the Palestinians would have any positive feelings towards the IDF. A complete joke.

    • @attackofthetheeyecreatures3472
      @attackofthetheeyecreatures3472 10 месяцев назад

      @@vinbakeshow8709 What is your solution?

    • @chiefkaha5650
      @chiefkaha5650 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@vinbakeshow8709 no he doesn’t, he’s just going off what had happened in his experience. He knows it’s not going to be the same.

    • @vinbakeshow8709
      @vinbakeshow8709 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@chiefkaha5650 that’s literally what he said dude

  • @idlereport
    @idlereport 10 месяцев назад +827

    This interview is wild imagine your daughter being bombed and you're like oh she was in the wrong place at the wrong time 😂. I can't

    • @MegaBillyJoeG
      @MegaBillyJoeG 10 месяцев назад +90

      forreal this interview is a joke😂😂

    • @SamFromQueens
      @SamFromQueens 10 месяцев назад +10

      @@MegaBillyJoeGno way any part of that statement is true.

    • @thinkbeforeyoutype7106
      @thinkbeforeyoutype7106 10 месяцев назад

      @@SamFromQueensYea go watch it. This guy is a clown and he’s the reason why we lost every war he’s been in because of idiots in our military

    • @terriej123
      @terriej123 10 месяцев назад +13

      Omg exactly

    • @johns9969
      @johns9969 10 месяцев назад +33

      Sagar doesn't even mildly challenge. As to Jacki, he has lucrative speaking gig. Anti Israel would DESTROY that.

  • @fallencrow6718
    @fallencrow6718 10 месяцев назад +89

    Jocko says that the palestinians wont rebel against hamas because they provide the food, public services, jobs and they are armed; but then when talking about the relationship between the iraqui population and the coalition he forgets that the coalition provided the food, public services and jobs (because the coalition destroyed the countryand took control over most companies and the public sector) and they where armed.

    • @unclepepe8318
      @unclepepe8318 10 месяцев назад

      And when the u.s. pulled out a even worse sunni group isis took control so hes completely wrong

  • @benz0317
    @benz0317 10 месяцев назад +136

    I love Jocko, but I am so happy to see the comments full of people pointing out the fallacies in this type of narrative

    • @joshualewis8923
      @joshualewis8923 10 месяцев назад +26

      Maybe it’s the 99% of the commenters on this video that don’t understand insurgency warfare that are wrong

    • @Max-zv8hm
      @Max-zv8hm 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@joshualewis8923right?

    • @davidcrossan
      @davidcrossan 10 месяцев назад +10

      Jocko embarrassed himself. If a guy in the pub said half of his comments you would clearly tell the guy to educate himself on Gaza. Navy seals guy really not doing his homework.

    • @Max-zv8hm
      @Max-zv8hm 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@davidcrossan they never do. They’re the high school football team of the military. Of course YOU didn’t know this.

    • @Vinylvine22
      @Vinylvine22 10 месяцев назад +21

      lol Jocko is not only a navy seal. He’s a navy seal commander who is an expert in warfare. His points are backed by decades of hard learned experience and implementation. No moron in the RUclips comments knows better than him.

  • @Minisquid100
    @Minisquid100 10 месяцев назад +96

    The amount of delusion exhibited by this guest is unparalleled.

    • @Gangsta1168
      @Gangsta1168 10 месяцев назад +5

      You meant both of them?? That's actually normal.. 💯💯😄😄

    • @joehavin1
      @joehavin1 4 месяца назад

      This guest has forgotten more about counter insurgency warfare then what what "you think" you know. lol Its always the idiots that have never engaged in modern warfare that are the 1st to run their gobb on the internet

  • @ugcamige
    @ugcamige 10 месяцев назад +297

    When he said, oh an isreali operative going into a refugee camp and talking to the locals... Me just sitting here, you mean the refugee camp they bombed?? That convo will go over well I'm sure

    • @dibrahim08
      @dibrahim08 10 месяцев назад +27

      He got successful for kissing the ring.

    • @Gangsta1168
      @Gangsta1168 10 месяцев назад +24

      Well.. Jocko said anyone can be bought with enough worth less fiat 💵💵 like himself.. 💯💯
      At least they used some real silver coins in the old days.. 😄😄

    • @mrandthetruthis
      @mrandthetruthis 10 месяцев назад +9

      @@Gangsta1168 wow ...that was cold ...but accurate

    • @Shady36
      @Shady36 10 месяцев назад +6

      He made his career trading in SEAL tactics and trade secrets. He knows where the money flows.

    • @jamesburke3803
      @jamesburke3803 10 месяцев назад +4

      The primary problem with comparing Gaza to Ramadi is that ISIS was not really local, and did not have deep roots in that city. Furthermore, coalition forces had the backing of influential portions of Iraqi society.... none of this is true in Gaza. Hamas is from Gaza, with massively deep roots. There are no significant portions or Palestinian society that support Israel, instead they have been training their young people to hate Jews for at least a century.
      If Israelis try to hire Gazans to rebuild their wrecked homeland... well, good luck to that!
      It appears to be insoluble.

  • @petercohen5563
    @petercohen5563 10 месяцев назад +17

    I’ve been to Gaza four times and have many Gazan friends. You’re completely wrong: this is not Iraq. People hated Hamas before this. But now, with Israeli committing genocide and trying to expel them all from Palestine, they are completely unified in resisting the Occupation. They’re hearts and minds are with ending the occupation, securing their freedom, and returning to their homes in what is now Israel as per UNR194.
    Do not waste time comparing this to Iraq.

    • @Clavers1369
      @Clavers1369 10 месяцев назад

      Liar. The Arabs started their campaign of genocide against the Jews in 1937.

    • @rozafrrozafr
      @rozafrrozafr 10 месяцев назад

      Israelis are exceptionally bad at genocide. In 1948 there were about 1.3 million palestinians. Now 75 years later according to the palestinians there are about 5 million in the territories. That's being really shit at genocide, or just possibly the Israelis are not trying to commit genocide.

  • @qcrew2938
    @qcrew2938 10 месяцев назад +127

    Jocko has no idea what's going on in Gaza... All he knows is what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan

    • @Gangsta1168
      @Gangsta1168 10 месяцев назад +12

      I bet you he still didn't really know why he was sent there.. 💯💯😄😄

    • @davywavy3724
      @davywavy3724 10 месяцев назад +1

      He still understands more than we do about the current situation

    • @Max-jn5sp
      @Max-jn5sp 10 месяцев назад +1

      Please enlighten us with your 20 years of military operations experience

    • @qcrew2938
      @qcrew2938 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Max-jn5sp I've been playing CandC since I'm 5 years old pal

    • @HarpreetSingh-xg2zm
      @HarpreetSingh-xg2zm 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@davywavy3724it seems like the opposite. His previous experience adds a bias and slant towards his understanding. He sees it like an Iraq war instead of its own thing.

  • @faimohkihfaimohkih8223
    @faimohkihfaimohkih8223 10 месяцев назад +121

    Unfortunately the comparison is not a good one, because the people of Gaza are directly oppressed by the military performing the insurgency. Not the case in Ramala

    • @Gangsta1168
      @Gangsta1168 10 месяцев назад +1

      It's counter insurgency by the Nazi Zionist Jews.. Actually they call it mowing the lawn.. 💯💯

    • @treeoflife162
      @treeoflife162 10 месяцев назад +2

      So Hamas doesn't oppress Palestineans

    • @asia89572
      @asia89572 10 месяцев назад

      No they are oppressed by an occupying regime nice try though no one is buying this nonsense and no Palestinians would ever help IsNotReal

    • @buzzfightbeer8023
      @buzzfightbeer8023 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@treeoflife162the brainwashed delusion in these pro-Hamas supporters is hilarious and depressing. I guarantee 99% have no idea what led to this state of affairs in the first place.

    • @ragnong9680
      @ragnong9680 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@treeoflife162 From the Palestinian perspective, they see it as there are no governments of the world supporting them except Hamas. It's wrong to think that way, but that is the level of hatred that exists between the 2 states.

  • @Shaq-pe9ut
    @Shaq-pe9ut 10 месяцев назад +4

    This was so delusional that I had to switch off. Jacko has no idea, and Sagaar just went with it. If you really think there is a scenario where the Palestinians will welcome and thank the occupiers after 75 years of brutality then you have no right to have any platform

  • @hassanabdirahman1074
    @hassanabdirahman1074 10 месяцев назад +373

    I think this is why the dynamic between sagaar and Krystal interviewing together is needed. Although ppl hate when Krystal “interrupts”, this interview needed several moment of pushback and elaboration. Sagaar kinda just swallowed the narrative and went on to more questions

    • @crowdedcrow3098
      @crowdedcrow3098 10 месяцев назад +17

      True that!!

    • @Pomegranate_David
      @Pomegranate_David 10 месяцев назад +29

      This is Saagar's true face.

    • @williamschneider3698
      @williamschneider3698 10 месяцев назад +4

      Besides pomegranate, this is the most accurate take, well said.

    • @Primal391
      @Primal391 10 месяцев назад +16

      She would not push back anything in this interview. She knows nothing of what they are talking about. Otherwise, she would have been there.

    • @MichelangeloBeats
      @MichelangeloBeats 10 месяцев назад +17

      Saagar looked nervous from the jump 😂😂

  • @ismailguler2650
    @ismailguler2650 10 месяцев назад +143

    Jocko contradicted himself way too much during course of this interview

    • @Galop-rk3lc
      @Galop-rk3lc 10 месяцев назад +11

      Do you not feel impelled to give examples when you say things like that? You just post it and... That's it..

    • @alifarah9
      @alifarah9 10 месяцев назад +9

      @@Galop-rk3lcdid you listen to the podcast at all? I listened for 20m and I’ve heard enough contradictions I don’t need timestamps

    • @shafsteryellow
      @shafsteryellow 10 месяцев назад +2

      He got the call😂

    • @omgwtfishappen
      @omgwtfishappen 10 месяцев назад +5

      its cause the dude has no idea what hes talking about. of all the people they couldve interviewed for some insightful perspective on the war, they decided to interview an former-army INFLUENCER? cmon

    • @TheHoneyDuke
      @TheHoneyDuke 10 месяцев назад

      @@omgwtfishappenthis. Dude has no idea what he is talking about when it comes to this particular topic.

  • @holly7003
    @holly7003 10 месяцев назад +47

    “And of course we would pay them money to apologize for what had happened when civilians got killed” is one of the grossest collection of words I’ve ever heard.

    • @jtjones4081
      @jtjones4081 10 месяцев назад

      Is the host delusional? “Our mission in Iraq was to destroy Al Queda. “ What??! He really believes we were fighting Al Queda in Iraq?? What a Dunce.

    • @juliusditgen2567
      @juliusditgen2567 10 месяцев назад +2

      That's exactly what reparations means. If you want to get really grossed out. Look up what the us department of agriculture values a human life. Then look at what the owners of cruise lines think a human life is worth.

    • @F8LDragon2
      @F8LDragon2 10 месяцев назад +3

      That's quite a generous thing to do considering the alteration to the survivors life, not just emotionally. Think realistically.

    • @BryanSheasby
      @BryanSheasby 10 месяцев назад +1

      Would you rather they don't pay them anything?

  • @shahzansadick1248
    @shahzansadick1248 10 месяцев назад +28

    its seems Jocko has no nuance in this particular scenario.

    • @joehavin1
      @joehavin1 4 месяца назад

      Jocko and the American GWOT generation has more real world experience in asymmetric counter insurgency warfare then 99% of the worlds militaries lol. What country are you from? lol

  • @scartwright9350
    @scartwright9350 10 месяцев назад +129

    Wow. Im a bit taken back by his ignorance of this conflict.

    • @KalashniKEV762
      @KalashniKEV762 10 месяцев назад +9

      He didn't check the news, on that day. LOL

    • @Gangsta1168
      @Gangsta1168 10 месяцев назад +11

      @@KalashniKEV762 he knows who his masters are.. 💵💵😄😄

    • @JMo-uh5cd
      @JMo-uh5cd 10 месяцев назад +12

      He was giving a military perspective. If you want someone to stroke your ego about Israel not having the right to exist, jump over to Andrew Tate or something.

    • @scartwright9350
      @scartwright9350 10 месяцев назад +9

      @@JMo-uh5cd There is an inbetween. Unless you're not allowed to critique israel that is...

    • @scartwright9350
      @scartwright9350 10 месяцев назад +6

      @@nightbroker did someone fire u for saying that? Almost everyone losing their jobs right now are critiqing israel.

  • @nathanisaacs76
    @nathanisaacs76 10 месяцев назад +36

    I lost it at "let's put Walmart and Starbucks in Iraq" boomer brain rot at levels I didn't even believe possible.

  • @buddha2923
    @buddha2923 10 месяцев назад +562

    “We know that my son was in the wrong place at the wrong time” is not a sentiment any parent has ever had ever😂.

    • @NoReasonNotTo007
      @NoReasonNotTo007 10 месяцев назад +27

      Was thinking the same

    • @GFunkEra81
      @GFunkEra81 10 месяцев назад +72

      I had to stop after that ridiculous statement lol this guy is full of shiiii

    • @LouisEdouardJacques
      @LouisEdouardJacques 10 месяцев назад +46

      Yes it is. Tragic accidents happen all the time. A parent can think that and still be overwhelmed by grief. I'm not arguing for the validity of this in the context of their conversation but your comment is a false and shallow counterargument.

    • @vg1400
      @vg1400 10 месяцев назад +36

      Probably the only way he can sleep, by convincing himself of this trash 😂

    • @brandonburns5365
      @brandonburns5365 10 месяцев назад +21

      ​@@LouisEdouardJacquesnaw, never heard one patent say that. And you haven't either

  • @traumatizedwick1760
    @traumatizedwick1760 10 месяцев назад +369

    Remember when Jocko said Ukraine was going to beat Russia? 🤣

    • @ASDeckard
      @ASDeckard 10 месяцев назад +27

      No, I don't. Do you have a timestamp on one of his video's?

    • @Nova_Afterglow
      @Nova_Afterglow 10 месяцев назад +41

      remember when jocko said to invest in nfts? 🤣

    • @ishallgunyou9835
      @ishallgunyou9835 10 месяцев назад

      They won’t win by driving the Russians completely out of Ukraine but I bet they will keep them from massive land grabs.

    • @annri8248
      @annri8248 10 месяцев назад +27

      He is the arms of the imperialist not the brains. Clearly

    • @corpmex
      @corpmex 10 месяцев назад

      They actually are beating the russians .......... awks

  • @nathanisaacs76
    @nathanisaacs76 10 месяцев назад +130

    It warms my heart to see the breaking points comminity overwhelmingly on the same page on this conflict.

    • @politotrujillo1722
      @politotrujillo1722 10 месяцев назад +18

      On the side of the terrorists that go on television and admit they want a second holocaust. Personally I find it deeply disturbing

    • @28Decimo
      @28Decimo 10 месяцев назад +13

      @@politotrujillo1722 as opposed to the one supporting a genocidal government that previous was caught forcefully sterilizing Ethiopian Jews? The one who said no racism in Israel yet Ethiopian Jews report being isolated and unable to speak with others. Or should we talk about threatening new reporters and photographers, using assassins, selling weapons to enemies of the US (which we gave them for defense but when sold to China ended up in Iran). Who is currently using white phosphorous ordinance on civilian locations? Which also includes damaging one of the oldest churches in the world. At the moment Israel’s doctrine is bomb areas to the stone age and never do anything else. Didn’t Israel also have this illegal embargo for more than a decade on Gaza, and keeps making more settlements in Gaza? Oh wait when reports are done on that IDF makes sure to accidentally fire at reporters…

    • @politotrujillo1722
      @politotrujillo1722 10 месяцев назад

      @@28Decimo I can tell you for certain the reports on white phosphorus weren’t true and the mosques that get hit are being used as weapons caches making them valid military targets which calls into question the things I can’t verify. But what’s the absolute worst is the way you call isreal the genocidal state when that is a complete inversion of reality. Isreal by all reports has gone far and beyond what any other military on earth has done to warn civilians to leave the area they’re going to bomb while Hamas soldiers block evacuation and shoot their own citizens who try to leave because they want their own citizens to die by Israeli weapons so they can use the corpses to make more propaganda for western smoothbrains. The only side who wants a genocide is Palestine. The Arabs in isreal have full rights, run for office sit on the judiciary. The Jews in Palestine… there are no Jews in Palestine because a Jew in Palestinian territory is killed on the spot. Also if isreal wanted a genocide, they have an Air Force. They could glass the entire territory in less than 6 hours so if they’re so genocidal why haven’t they just done it yet.

    • @corpsefoot758
      @corpsefoot758 10 месяцев назад

      @@politotrujillo1722
      Enjoy getting your ignorance publicly eviscerated by anybody who actually tracks Tel Aviv’s ocean of humanitarian violations
      The militarized apartheid in Hebron alone exposes their entire ideology as sociopathic. But good luck regardless I guess

    • @peterthegreat996
      @peterthegreat996 10 месяцев назад

      @@politotrujillo1722I agree. October 10 these losers were telling Israel, so sad , to bad, suck it up. Pathetic

  • @beingnasser
    @beingnasser 10 месяцев назад +46

    It sounds as if Iraq has no more problems?!

    • @KN-cool
      @KN-cool 10 месяцев назад +1

      No he basically says hearts and minds is better than total war but that it didnt really work either

    • @beingnasser
      @beingnasser 10 месяцев назад +15

      @@KN-cool Is there a single country NATO or America has intervened in and, left it happily ever after?

    • @KN-cool
      @KN-cool 10 месяцев назад

      @@beingnasser is that a question?

    • @beingnasser
      @beingnasser 10 месяцев назад

      @@KN-cool He went as a solider, not a pacifist.

    • @KN-cool
      @KN-cool 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@beingnasser yes he went as a soldier but it's almost like you didn't listen to the interview 😂🤣

  • @crishhari5903
    @crishhari5903 10 месяцев назад +52

    We are the good guys complex has clouded his judgement in the specific topic. Hama is bad but the Israel government who support Hama in the first place to further their agenda are just as bad. Palestians have suffer from Hama no doubt but Israel has made them suffer much more. Open air prison with limited access to basic human needs met was a disaster waiting to happen.

    • @aaronely759
      @aaronely759 10 месяцев назад +4

      I think a more important example is how they are thrown out of their homes and into refugee camps in the west bank where there is no armed resistance or hamas is a bigger issue. When they dont have hamas, they are treated as I stated. Where there is hamas this doesnt happen. Until this fact is addressed and corrected there will always be conflict and hamas (or whatever name the choose to adopt in the future).

    • @kyactive
      @kyactive 10 месяцев назад

      Interesting that the opposite end of the "prison" wall is upheld by a country called Egypt

  • @michaelmedrano3237
    @michaelmedrano3237 10 месяцев назад +28

    I really enjoy how Jocko always brings back sympathy and emotion into some of his answers. I felt like Saagar was expecting Jocko to say at times " yeah, this is war and people are going to die no matter how much you try to prevent it...there are a lot of Palestinians who support Hamas and voted them in....collateral damage cannot be avoided...etc" but Jocko always brings back simple answers like, the Palestinians are regular people who are just trying to support their families so of course a lot of them have no choice but to support their current government because what else choice do they have? If they resist Hamas, they'll just be killed.
    I noticed lately that Saagar doesnt bring any emotion into his views and beliefs because he wants to stay true to his principles, which is respectable, but at the same time, its easy to forget that people are just trying to live a good life and support their families. Debates tend to be overcomplicated when the answer can just be simple and not so thought out. Im glad Jocko kept emphasizing how the majority of people are just normal trying to get by. US media including independent media can really overcomplicate things happening around the world.

    • @Gangsta1168
      @Gangsta1168 10 месяцев назад +1

      I bet you're one of those well-trained law obeying 🐑 🐑 that VOTED repeatedly for their masters then cry like little babies when bad things happen.. 💯💯😄😄😄

    • @kevinzhang6623
      @kevinzhang6623 10 месяцев назад

      Exactly. No one who has ever been "in the shit" would ever be foolish enough to say something like that hypothetical quote.

  • @richstafford1245
    @richstafford1245 10 месяцев назад +26

    Joko has clearly realized what his tribal position should be on this subject since his initial comments lol

  • @Matt-yz3iq
    @Matt-yz3iq 10 месяцев назад +104

    I'm sure Jocko was a great soldier and I respect him tremendously. But this was an interview that didn't need to happen.

    • @jocksharerock7318
      @jocksharerock7318 10 месяцев назад +3

      Why?

    • @snackskassian8565
      @snackskassian8565 10 месяцев назад +4

      Your comment didnt need to happen either goof

    • @unoitisim
      @unoitisim 10 месяцев назад +17

      @@jocksharerock7318 Because all of his points are under baked and reek of what caused the US to lose both the conflicts he fought in.

    • @evanhaddad1960
      @evanhaddad1960 10 месяцев назад +14

      Exactly. The counter insurgency in Iraq and afghanistan, along with the subsequent "hearts, minds and wallets" as Jocko mentions, was a disaster of epic proportions. If someone thinks that was a successful strategy, I got news for them.

    • @terriej123
      @terriej123 10 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly

  • @mohammedrahmon7661
    @mohammedrahmon7661 10 месяцев назад +4

    10 min inn and it's already better than any SNL sketch 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 this guy logic is hilarious

  • @reggiebrown4911
    @reggiebrown4911 10 месяцев назад +31

    "they're doing the best they can" ... unbelievable

  • @jasinAmsterdam1976
    @jasinAmsterdam1976 10 месяцев назад +262

    It is really exasperating how someone like Jacko knows so little about what is going on
    Or does he?

    • @Violet-ty2mn
      @Violet-ty2mn 10 месяцев назад +44

      Or just intentionally pushing military propaganda. Saagar on that military industrial complex payroll as well. They don't have souls. Just egos and wallets. Krystal should leave this goon to his own insignificant babble and let him become a joe rogan fluffer.

    • @terriej123
      @terriej123 10 месяцев назад +15

      @@Violet-ty2mnnah, it’s good for ppl to be able to see thru this stuff. Just like u did.

    • @evanhaddad1960
      @evanhaddad1960 10 месяцев назад +12

      Wasn't going to be the first one to mention it, but I found myself scratching my head during this interview. Sounds like a lot of thinly sourced conjecture. I get it's an opinion but sounds like he's just riffing here and making stuff up.

    • @marcoduvall4404
      @marcoduvall4404 10 месяцев назад +1

      👑

    • @marcoduvall4404
      @marcoduvall4404 10 месяцев назад +7

      Proud of everyone here.. It's people like you that are helping save this world, literally. Salute

  • @blablah538
    @blablah538 10 месяцев назад +22

    Cheers to the BP audience for ratioing the fuck out of this entire interview. Jocko needs more friends to tell him when he's out over his skiis

  • @davidleomorley889
    @davidleomorley889 10 месяцев назад +172

    If Israel really wants peace, it will require the Palestinians to have self determination.
    Israel MUST be forced into obeying international law if Israel wants freedom from fear.

    • @gianni_schicchi
      @gianni_schicchi 10 месяцев назад +10

      Self determination, like an election? How’d that go last time. 😂

    • @davidleomorley889
      @davidleomorley889 10 месяцев назад +29

      @@gianni_schicchi They voted in 2006 but the Israelis and Americans didn't like who they voted for, Hamas, and so they just ignored the result and has put Gaza under a siege ever since...leading to the October 7th attacks.
      How did that go?

    • @abubaytnighan6480
      @abubaytnighan6480 10 месяцев назад +20

      @@gianni_schicchiyou do realize the west bank and gaza have been colonized for decades even during the 2006 elections

    • @kenfriedman8446
      @kenfriedman8446 10 месяцев назад +2

      Most importantly, Palestinians need to give up armed struggle and come to the bargaining table to reach a final settlement with Israel that gives them the fair amount of land they deserve. The Armed struggle approach dooms the region to eternal conflict

    • @abubaytnighan6480
      @abubaytnighan6480 10 месяцев назад

      @@kenfriedman8446 you mean what they have tried for decades and got nothing out of it except more death and settlements?

  • @mikalpradia
    @mikalpradia 10 месяцев назад +23

    Seems to me this interview didn’t go over so well among the general viewership.

    • @madimakes
      @madimakes 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah not sure I want to listen. It may give it a go…couldn’t tell if this was posted somewhere specifically for people to hate view or what!
      We will see…

    • @mattturner5750
      @mattturner5750 10 месяцев назад

      He's not giving them what they want so he must be a shill.

  • @mariajosegimenezduarte9924
    @mariajosegimenezduarte9924 10 месяцев назад +7

    Oh oh jocko missed all the postcolonial lectures at the war school

  • @TheLakers24788
    @TheLakers24788 10 месяцев назад +66

    im soo in love with this comment section, hold this man accountable, which you are, this is wonderful

    • @casey4450
      @casey4450 10 месяцев назад

      Sorry you don't feel that way about Krystal's interview; if you had, I'd agree with you.

    • @ryanthelionish
      @ryanthelionish 10 месяцев назад +1

      Lol Jocko doesn’t give a shit about comments 😂

    • @TheLakers24788
      @TheLakers24788 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@ryanthelionish ok...great....

    • @TheLakers24788
      @TheLakers24788 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@casey4450 i havent seen her interview to feel a way about it

    • @DevilFrog61
      @DevilFrog61 10 месяцев назад

      You really want to utter the word accountability but then in the same breathe take sides with the guys who just raped, burned, and mass murdered thousands of civilians a month ago ….you have no credibility. Unlike Jocko, who has been fighting the war on terror while you were learning your ABCs

  • @darekdylo8993
    @darekdylo8993 10 месяцев назад +18

    The way saagar been citing and hoping this guy up I was really hoping for a better analysis, he didn’t lay any critique to Israel and seem to be trusting all of their propaganda

  • @timmoteus
    @timmoteus 10 месяцев назад +7

    I'm not surprised that krystal wasn't invited 🤣

  • @mikalpradia
    @mikalpradia 10 месяцев назад +101

    Saagar gave zero pushback or counterpoints to anything Jocko assessed…

    • @dixztube
      @dixztube 10 месяцев назад +17

      He was too stary eyed

    • @Fika_Break
      @Fika_Break 10 месяцев назад +1

      I felt like he was trying to draw info out of Jacko. Clearly Jacko has a bias, instead of saying, oh boy you’re way off here, he would frame the next question to try to get something useful.

    • @Christorment5
      @Christorment5 10 месяцев назад +3

      Not every conversation needs to be a debate. Or anytime someone says something we have to question it. Sometimes just being quiet and listening you’ll get information or wisdom from what is being said even if what is being said isn’t “correct”. The news and sport shows has ruined the way we communicate, not social media. Not everything needs to be a panel of 5 people talking over each other and every has to be profound in the 20 seconds they have on each subject. Sometimes just stfu and think.

    • @joshualewis8923
      @joshualewis8923 10 месяцев назад +3

      Jocko is 10 times more qualified to speak encounter, insurgency warfare than Sagar, or frankly, any of the commenters on this video

    • @dixztube
      @dixztube 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@joshualewis8923 and yet we have such horrible idiotic takes.
      And I don’t disagree with your statement either.

  • @juanca030782
    @juanca030782 10 месяцев назад +81

    9:07 “and of course, you know, we would pay them money to, you know, apologize for what had happened when civilians got killed”. I had to go back 2 times to make sure he said that

    • @irona7054
      @irona7054 10 месяцев назад +4

      💯!!!

    • @streetninja510
      @streetninja510 10 месяцев назад +11

      I mean as far as I’m aware, that’s more than what Israel’s been doing

    • @mikealaniz7236
      @mikealaniz7236 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@jamesk7063and then us Americans are surprised when they call us “the great evil”

    • @morenitomoreno1282
      @morenitomoreno1282 10 месяцев назад

      This psycho don’t even realize what they’re saying cause, well, they’re psychos. They just don’t see brown people as human beings just like him so Joko is incapable to put himself in the shoes of the victims families even for a second.

    • @Rbb0828
      @Rbb0828 10 месяцев назад

      They also paid many people for destroying their homes and tried to find them jobs too

  • @brendatenorio5721
    @brendatenorio5721 6 месяцев назад +1

    Bring Jocko back for a 6 month review.

  • @ApenasMais1
    @ApenasMais1 10 месяцев назад +42

    Gaza and Ramadi are not the same AT ALL.

    • @DavidJohnODea
      @DavidJohnODea 10 месяцев назад

      I was expecting an insightful take, but I'm shocked it's so deluded. How can Israel win the hearts and minds if the Israelis have a goal of creating a greater Israel and, by definition, want to prevent and remove any chance of a Palestinian state. How can you win the hearts and minds of the Palestinian if a large section of Israelis society see them as subhuman. And I haven't even mentioned the 6,000 children and counting they have murdered so far.

  • @obaone
    @obaone 10 месяцев назад +411

    It’s like having a convo with half the details omitted

    • @Gangsta1168
      @Gangsta1168 10 месяцев назад +32

      Nah.. It sounded like CIA propaganda.. 💯💯😄😄

    • @JMo-uh5cd
      @JMo-uh5cd 10 месяцев назад +18

      So refreshing to hear a conversation where they just accept that Israel exists and has a right to continue to exist.

    • @cjpj72
      @cjpj72 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@JMo-uh5cdeven Arafat agreed that Israel had the right to exist. The idea that Palestinians want to destroy Israel is bollocks. From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free, has been deliberately misconstrued by Israel. They need an irrational demon to sell to their people.. Palestinians being free doesn't require the destruction of Israel. It requires its own State as agreed between Arafat and Rabin..
      Someone summed up the situation quite eloquently. Israel teaches it's children that Palestinians teach their children to hate Israel. Israel manifests its own enemies through its actions..

    • @patrick9445
      @patrick9445 10 месяцев назад +10

      it's almost like a conversation between two people who care about America and have a realistic view of Hamas and Jihad

    • @Gangsta1168
      @Gangsta1168 10 месяцев назад +12

      @@JMo-uh5cd did Nazi Germany have a right to exist?? 😄😄

  • @StylinRed
    @StylinRed 10 месяцев назад +6

    Hear that the Americans actually considered the locals human and avoided hurting them, whereas 🇮🇱 openly states they don't consider the locals human

    • @georgecrumb8442
      @georgecrumb8442 10 месяцев назад

      Yep, someone needs to make a compilation of all the times the Israeli government refers to Palestinians are animals. I've seen numerous videos.

  • @supersonik76
    @supersonik76 10 месяцев назад +21

    5 mins in, and it sounds like Jaco doesn't know wtf he's talking about.

  • @Aziz_195
    @Aziz_195 10 месяцев назад +14

    9:36 "putting you in the situation in the first place" is most ridiculous statements I've ever heard...in the West Bank THERE IS NO HAMAS and yet still people are getting killed...I respect Jacks POV on many things but in this situation he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.

  • @scottmingersoll
    @scottmingersoll 10 месяцев назад +2

    Imagine referring the inhabitants of a country you’re attempting to invade as “insurgents” and still trying to act like you speak with any credibility. 🤔

  • @TermaineJenkins
    @TermaineJenkins 10 месяцев назад +31

    Lol. Jocko said the civilians might look positively at Israel "once they're sitting in a refugee camp and the IDF is giving them supplies and asking them questions", like dude, Jocko clearly has no idea Isreal has been bombing all the refugee camps. And Sagar is just sitting there fan-boying out. wtf am I watching lol

    • @BiggerThanClevelan
      @BiggerThanClevelan 10 месяцев назад

      YOUR WATCHING THE TRUTH----------------YOUR THE BRAIN WASHED ----

    • @terriej123
      @terriej123 10 месяцев назад +9

      Exactly. Thank u!

    • @dixztube
      @dixztube 10 месяцев назад +5

      Such a great comment. This is wild seeing this. Maybe Krystal can give a reaction to this

    • @irona7054
      @irona7054 10 месяцев назад +3

      I think Jocko doesn’t know why the refugee camps exist in the first place…

  • @wardsaidawi1590
    @wardsaidawi1590 10 месяцев назад +9

    Just watched conservatives sitting in their echo chambers. A painful experience. Saagar is the wrong one to be talking to this guy alone. The dude literally called Israel's genocide-from-the-air "bold action" and had the audacity to claim that Israel is making efforts to take care of Gazans and that Gazans will be thankful to the Israeli military for "liberating" them, and not a peep out of Saagar. Jocko, if I'm being very kind, has blind spots the size of the Grand Canyon.

    • @Michael-st9ky
      @Michael-st9ky 10 месяцев назад

      This isnt conservativism.
      Conservatism is a cultural, social, and political philosophy that seeks to promote and to preserve traditional institutions, customs, and values.

    • @lesflynn4455
      @lesflynn4455 10 месяцев назад

      Israel hasn't bombed any hospitals afaik. You need to do some homework.

  • @jarredlustgarten3372
    @jarredlustgarten3372 10 месяцев назад +48

    How did Saagar not even push back once about the strategy of Israel bombing the hospitals and the people en route to “ safety “ in the south and the refugee camps !!!??? I think he was honestly scared of Jocko. And I am a huge Jocko fan.. but I don’t think he is right about some of the stuff here. Unless he doesn’t believe the Palestinians are under occupation in Gaza. So the title is completely click bait. Krystal would have been pressing him more.

    • @pageek3487
      @pageek3487 10 месяцев назад +2

      This was very disappointing.

    • @morenitomoreno1282
      @morenitomoreno1282 10 месяцев назад

      Sagaar is a clown and his "anti war" schtick is a charade

    • @joshualewis8923
      @joshualewis8923 10 месяцев назад

      You and Jocko don’t have to have the same viewpoint. You are two different people the fact that he sees things differently than you should make you think about your own beliefs, and question them reasonably, then question his beliefs in a similar fashion.

    • @mattturner5750
      @mattturner5750 10 месяцев назад

      Why would he be scared? Don't be an imbecile.

    • @gabrielr2732
      @gabrielr2732 10 месяцев назад

      They're not under occupation in Gaza. Israel left in 2005. All Israelis living there had to leave. The failure of the civilization in Gaza is the fault of Palestine. It's easier to blame Israel for their failure rather than the Palestinians take responsibility for their failed society. It's trendy and cool to blame others for your own failures. Many groups in the U.S blame colonization, white supremacy, or patriarchy for their failures.

  • @TermaineJenkins
    @TermaineJenkins 10 месяцев назад +20

    Jocko seems to not be aware that entire families and neighborhoods are being wiped out. I get the example of the US in a village, but this is nothing like that. He knows war but he does not know this one. Sagar is obviously a fan and is not correcting the context

  • @jblo76
    @jblo76 10 месяцев назад +17

    100% agree, Jocko. It makes zero sense that permanent DST has not been passed in CA or federally. Let’s get this done people!

  • @mesolithicman164
    @mesolithicman164 10 месяцев назад +57

    I think we're seeing a lot of people we thought we could trust going through their 'Sam Harris' moments.

    • @clovis86
      @clovis86 10 месяцев назад

      Fucking A. Sam lost the plot entirely...

    • @mikealaniz7236
      @mikealaniz7236 10 месяцев назад +2

      Noones ganna be right forever. Every person in the world will eventually disappoint you with something they think. This one’s a biggie tho.

    • @mesolithicman164
      @mesolithicman164 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@mikealaniz7236
      Correct. I thought much the same about things til I started to listen to real experts like Scott Ritter and Doug McGregor.
      I'm sure Jocko's advice on weight training or being an 'Alpha' is spot on but on geo strategy he's no better informed than my mother in law.

    • @mikealaniz7236
      @mikealaniz7236 10 месяцев назад

      @@mesolithicman164 no I think he knows more than that but as a soldier that made it high in the ranks he must be aware of the politics of it. And it seems obvious here he’s avoiding certain things.

    • @imnezu8940
      @imnezu8940 10 месяцев назад

      What exactly is a Sam Harris moment?

  • @omarsami1177
    @omarsami1177 10 месяцев назад +9

    Thats why military ppl shouldn't be politicians..

    • @Oshowski
      @Oshowski 10 месяцев назад +1

      although there are far smarter military man than this guy, he's just someone who's good at getting it done, not understanding the world

  • @gingrai00
    @gingrai00 10 месяцев назад +1

    Why can’t he be President? Someone draft him for President!

  • @Freethinker-vj4ut
    @Freethinker-vj4ut 10 месяцев назад +64

    Yo sagar's villain arc starts here😂

  • @jamesgarvey8402
    @jamesgarvey8402 10 месяцев назад +30

    I haven’t heard the whole thing yet, but I’m bothered that the real underlying issue of Zionism hasn’t been brought up yet.

    • @ethancohen12
      @ethancohen12 10 месяцев назад +1

      Define Zionism please

    • @aidoskashenov4532
      @aidoskashenov4532 10 месяцев назад

      It's a radical religious ideology that pursies of building an ethnostate in the Palestine excluding any other nation religion or race except the Jews. And achieving the goals by any means necessary

    • @LancesArmorStriking
      @LancesArmorStriking 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@ethancohen12
      Zionism strictly speaking is the idea that the Jews should create a European-style nation state of their own.
      In our timeline, that means taking over the little triangle in the Levant that they currently occupy.
      The "underlying issue" is that it's a single-minded goal, and doesn't see room for compromise with reality.
      "The Jews WILL have a homeland, it's going to be HERE, and that's that! I don't care what the local people say, I've already decided that this is how it's going to be. God is on my side, we're His Chosen People, so I can't be wrong!"-
      - that's the logic you're dealing with when examining Israel. They're not even willing to negotiate. The "deals" they put forth before set unrealistic terms. The goal all along has been to exterminate or expel all Palestinians and complete the Israeli triangle-shape.

    • @jamesgarvey8402
      @jamesgarvey8402 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@ethancohen12 no

    • @Oshowski
      @Oshowski 10 месяцев назад

      @@ethancohen12 Zionism is a fundamentally racist view that ALL of Israel belongs to Jews ONLY. There is actually a greater Israel wersion where Israel would also take part of Egypt, all of Jordan, Syria , part of Turkey, half of Iraq and 40% of Saudi Arabia. Zionism needs to get rid of all Muslims at least and possibly expand further. It is a brutal ideology . Some have a more modest view where it just means Israel should exist. But for most true Zionists its far more malignant.

  • @Mindset19877
    @Mindset19877 10 месяцев назад +7

    Hostages might grapple with the stark realization that their own nation was conducting bombings and causing harm while their adversaries were the ones working to preserve their lives.

  • @lisadraga
    @lisadraga 10 месяцев назад +8

    This is a weird conversation. This is a massacre not war

  • @tonytooshort
    @tonytooshort 10 месяцев назад +16

    His point abt propping up the economy of the Palestinians is so key bc once you root out the poverty and the oppression and the blockade you effectively root out hamas by default. The ONLY reason they exist is bc people have no hope in any future of any kind.

  • @texasdude1
    @texasdude1 10 месяцев назад +33

    I think Jocko doesn’t know what’s going on, lol 🤣.

    • @patrick9445
      @patrick9445 10 месяцев назад +7

      But nonbinary breaking points viewers who have never fired a gun are experts on urban warfare. Ok.

    • @ChPeRo
      @ChPeRo 10 месяцев назад

      It’s not about how to clear houses like a badass, it’s about being aware of the nature of the Israelis and their endless occupation. But if you like crying about wokeness and non binaries then hurry up check out the rainbow flag soldiers the IDF uses in their bullshit propaganda, the all female tank squads, the thirst trap girls playing dress up

    • @TBaggingSociety
      @TBaggingSociety 10 месяцев назад +3

      And that's the problem. People who know nothing dismissing people that have lived through it.

    • @cameronsammons8709
      @cameronsammons8709 10 месяцев назад

      top comment @@patrick9445

  • @Huckhaven
    @Huckhaven 10 месяцев назад +16

    This guys sounds so off to me that ten minutes into this interview i think I’ll just go find something else to watch on RUclips to try and educate myself on the situation.

    • @advisorywarning
      @advisorywarning 10 месяцев назад

      Watch Empire Files’s Gaza Fights For Freedom or read amnesty internationals report on Israeli apartheid & military occupation. The pro Israel position is already pretty well represented in mainstream media.

  • @indeedgaminghere401
    @indeedgaminghere401 10 месяцев назад +28

    I’m gonna let this interview finish, but at 20 minutes in a feel like they’re completely ignoring serious facts about the situation…
    Now that I’ve watched the whole interview, I don’t know if they did or not. But I feel like if they didn’t they should have made clear they were looking at the conflict purely from a military standpoint point. But this interview has ZERO context to the conflict and if you don’t know anyth about the conflict you’d come away from this interview believing the Biden and Israel government telling of the story which is bullshit. Saagar should know better than this.

    • @Strawn149
      @Strawn149 10 месяцев назад

      They are speaking from a military perspective.

    • @MegaBillyJoeG
      @MegaBillyJoeG 10 месяцев назад

      For real they’re so biased to Israel lol

    • @somethingginterestingg4275
      @somethingginterestingg4275 10 месяцев назад

      Like

    • @indeedgaminghere401
      @indeedgaminghere401 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Strawn149 I was kinda hoping that 75% through and I just missed the part where they mentioned that. That being said, when he got into the “Hearts and Minds” argument it then becomes impossible to ignore the context. Because it can’t be ignored in Palestine unlike in Iraq that the Palestinians living conditions is more a result of Israel then Hamas. Israel makes the decision to leave them without water, food and medicine and had made those decisions before Oct 7th, not Hamas. Israel also makes the decision to go into Gaza everyday few years to “Mow the Lawn”, not Hamas. Israel made the decision to institute the blockade, not Hamas. And Israel also has the ideology that dictates they can’t allow Muslims to have to large of a population because it will threaten their state simply from them existing. They also made the decision to continue to expand the illegal settlements. At lastly, only cause I don’t feel like typing anymore. The Palestinian Authority is widely looked upon negatively because they’re seen as collaborators with the Israel state and is not for the Palestinians. Which is the alternative to Hamas which theoretically would be useful in Jacko’s description of how things should go forward. He can speak from a purely Military state point for the most part and I don’t mind it despite the fact I like context. But when he makes the “Hearts and Minds” argument, you can’t seriously make that argument without context, at least not honestly.

    • @thedelapo1606
      @thedelapo1606 10 месяцев назад

      By facts Do you mean making absurd straw man arguments where Hamas bombing, Israel is war but Israel bombing hamas. Back is a war crime because You only listen to the perspective of people who are ideologues.

  • @bolladeen
    @bolladeen 10 месяцев назад +23

    Those labelled 'terrorist' were actually local people resisting military occupation of their homeland.

    • @golddeagle7
      @golddeagle7 10 месяцев назад

      They lost numerous wars get over it.

    • @mitchcase3830
      @mitchcase3830 10 месяцев назад

      They decapitated infants. If you sign off on that God bless your soul

    • @jakubkoscribe5475
      @jakubkoscribe5475 10 месяцев назад +1

      What occupation? Gaza hasn't been occupied for years.

  • @robinirie98
    @robinirie98 10 месяцев назад +23

    What i hate most about this "interview" is that Jacko will just state things and Sagaar would just swallow it with even asking "what's your basis for saying that?" Like: What is your basis for saying people were kept from fleeing? What makes you think people will give up their Hamas relatives anyone than Afghans giving up their Taliban sons and nephews?

    • @alvc22
      @alvc22 10 месяцев назад +4

      The basis is that there are videos of Palestinians saying they can't evacuate because they are prevented from doing so at gunpoint. Also, true family won't give up family but not everyone has family to give up.

    • @robinirie98
      @robinirie98 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@alvc22 I haven't seen those but I'll take your word for it. But that wasn't the only thing he said. He kept say "I've never been to Gaza, but I feel x". I'd like to know his reasons.
      I read a statistic that says half of Gaza are married to a first cousin. In such a society families are huge. When 1 in 56 people have been killed or injured, and 1 in 200 killed, everyone is touched.

    • @alvc22
      @alvc22 10 месяцев назад

      @@robinirie98 interesting statistic. Being from a large family myself, I can also tell you that families though unified by blood, can still split over politics and policy especially when it's life and death. What about the statistic that 13% of Palestinians do not support the Oct 7 attack? It's been documented that many lie in public polls so as not to be punished. So the real number is higher. I will admit that the number of Gazans willing to give up Hamas isn't huge, maybe as high as 20% if one is very liberal and optimistic.

    • @alvc22
      @alvc22 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@robinirie98 BTW the Son of Hamas was quite happy to give up his father who was one of the founding members of Hamas. You don't need a ton of people to help, just a few well connected ones.

    • @robinirie98
      @robinirie98 10 месяцев назад

      @@alvc22 You need sufficient to make a difference. There are loads of informants among the Palestinians; that's well known. But are there enough? Is it credible that after killing 1 in 200 people are going to be more inclined to inform? And Palestinian who speaks to a stranger now is a marked man/woman. The idea that Israeli agents just need to go in these refugees camps as if Hamas operatives and informants won't be there watching

  • @milopboothe
    @milopboothe 10 месяцев назад +176

    I would imagine the majority of the Palestinians would be about as thankful to the Israelis as the U.S.S Liberty survivors that Jocko had on his podcast last year would be. Would love to see the Liberty survivors get an interview on Breaking Points.

    • @emailmak4434
      @emailmak4434 10 месяцев назад +24

      Awesome suggestion! Krystal is lot more on point then her counter part.

    • @kyactive
      @kyactive 10 месяцев назад +16

      Nah, Krystal's interview with RFK Jr was pretty bad. Fine to be inquisitive to challenge but she got ideological and brought up criticisms without letting him respond. Wtf. She's too hot-headed with too many blindspots.
      Saagar has his issues too.

    • @Critical-Thinker895
      @Critical-Thinker895 10 месяцев назад +9

      @@emailmak4434 Krystal is off the rails and just spewing her personal hatred DAILY.

    • @davidl5119
      @davidl5119 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@Critical-Thinker895find it funny that the dumbest comment with nothing more than biases username is critical thinker 😂

    • @YYmmmYY
      @YYmmmYY 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​​@porter9494how about we go back to the UN borders despite it giving the newcomers the majority share of the land.

  • @jakefloden6512
    @jakefloden6512 10 месяцев назад +1

    Hearts and minds has a 0 percent success rate so far in history

  • @uffdalefsa
    @uffdalefsa 10 месяцев назад +63

    How cool for Saagar to meet a real Navy Seal toughie. Not much else to say about this interview.

  • @cain770
    @cain770 10 месяцев назад +18

    This is not journalism. You had one shot…and you blew it.

    • @thedelapo1606
      @thedelapo1606 10 месяцев назад

      😂 Journalism is where you only give one sides. Opinion then insist to your audience that the other sides lying about everything.. Purposely misrepresent facts and cast out on things that have been proven to be true Is it really that hard for you to listen to someone else's opinion that disagrees with crystal? Are you such a cuck That you can't handle Analysis from someone who's naughty complete ideologue, who bases their opinions off of ideology, not facts on the ground

    • @PurpleMonkeyDishwasher88
      @PurpleMonkeyDishwasher88 10 месяцев назад +2

      So true. I would've rather have Ryan interview him, because he gives pushback and has plenty of knowledge to back his points up. I think sometimes Saagar really comes off as a fanboy in some of these interviews, and doesn't want to "rock the boat" so to speak.

    • @mattturner5750
      @mattturner5750 10 месяцев назад +1

      Is it supposed to be? He's asking a man for his opinion.

  • @brunosouza4758
    @brunosouza4758 10 месяцев назад +8

    Love Jocko, but he missed the part where in the iraq war we made an effort to not kill civilians. Here there's like a 50 to 1 ratio for civilian kills vs confirmed terrorist kills. He's also missing the part where these people had their homes and everything they owned destroyed, then got kicked out from their lands.

    • @Aaron8d8
      @Aaron8d8 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yes but I believe you and many other commenters on here “missed the part” about the Palestinians and their leadership are just as culpable as the IDF for the situation they find themselves in.

  • @tyalprince
    @tyalprince 10 месяцев назад +104

    Clearly Jocko is very careful with his words & being cancelled… crazy how careful he is with this after his initial reaction

    • @selfportrait8363
      @selfportrait8363 10 месяцев назад +7

      Where can I see his initial reaction?

    • @pootangclan1505
      @pootangclan1505 10 месяцев назад

      Yea not to mention his audience is mostly right leaning, they dont support any sympathy for hamas or Palestinians

    • @tyalprince
      @tyalprince 10 месяцев назад

      @@selfportrait8363 ruclips.net/video/3O4dW24az98/видео.htmlsi=t9xAsobZsoWKzVOq

    • @mattturner5750
      @mattturner5750 10 месяцев назад +4

      How do you fathom that you can cancel Jocko?

    • @mattturner5750
      @mattturner5750 10 месяцев назад

      @@AL3X2011 and how do you suppose people would cancel him?

  • @Lmfaojesse6969
    @Lmfaojesse6969 10 месяцев назад +8

    Never forget USS LIBERTY

  • @philosopheronamission5649
    @philosopheronamission5649 10 месяцев назад +8

    The way Joko is framing civilians being at the wrong place and time is disgusting. My father was a Vietnam vet, he spoke candidly about the war crimes committed by the so-called good guys. Joko has more than enough experience, intelligence and access to know what's going on. He said their efforts to minimize civilian casualties in Ramadi was extraordinary. So why is he tip toeing around Israel's spoken and acted intent to do as much damage as possible with minimal regard for civilians? I think he is pandering to his base; the companies he provides consultations for, the proud American patriots who buy his books, etc. Like so many others, he dare not call Israel out.

    • @audiohourtapes7632
      @audiohourtapes7632 10 месяцев назад

      It’s weirdly disappointing. Like I assumed he would be better and I don’t know why.

  • @TheEraLad
    @TheEraLad 10 месяцев назад +4

    Why was this guy interviewed? Seems he knows very little about this conflict and didn’t even do any homework on it. He’s just making assumptions and projecting his past experiences onto current events, but even his past experiences sound odd. Why give him a platform to spread more misinformation?

  • @saeba
    @saeba 10 месяцев назад +5

    I’d love to see a deep dive military analysis with Scott Ritter on Breaking Points

    • @stevenalvarado-doc7334
      @stevenalvarado-doc7334 10 месяцев назад

      isn't that the guy who spent time in prison for kiddie sex crimes?

  • @michaelj.harrington9106
    @michaelj.harrington9106 10 месяцев назад +31

    Hey Sagar, this interview with Jocko Willink seemed designed as an opportunity for you to exercise your constant (and childish) fascination with military strategy and combat tactics. We heard that train of thought from you again and again, ad nauseum. The actual potential for resolution of this war and crisis is neither about Israel doing things to improve the economy and/or lifestyle of Palestinians, nor is it about Israel trying out a new posture to "make friends with your neighbors." Um, sudden friendly relations would be hard to pull off after so much carpet bombing killing of Palestinians. I'm appalled, but not surprised, that you guys (given your military wonk beliefs) failed to tackle the elephant in the room. This situation calls for a political solution, not a military one. It will include ending Israel's occupation and control of Gaza and the West Bank. Start with that in order to give peace a chance.

    • @malik_alharb
      @malik_alharb 10 месяцев назад

      When youre talking to a military operations guy you discuss tatics, relax bro

    • @advisorywarning
      @advisorywarning 10 месяцев назад

      BRILLIANTLY said my friend

  • @juancifuentes7404
    @juancifuentes7404 10 месяцев назад +28

    It felt like I was listening to someone pitching a Hollywood blockbuster.

  • @jameslopez4648
    @jameslopez4648 10 месяцев назад +2

    All of these upset Muslims hate it when they don’t talk about occupation 😂
    None of these people in the comment section have ever lived under hamas rule, it’s not a game about talking points, it’s life

  • @hannubal4976
    @hannubal4976 10 месяцев назад +17

    Krystal should also do an interview with Jocko, she'd push him more on civilian casualties in Gaza

    • @yaeluzan1
      @yaeluzan1 10 месяцев назад +2

      oh she got many solo interviews with ant Israel guests. This one is a good balance of her biased interviews

    • @hannubal4976
      @hannubal4976 10 месяцев назад

      I agree but it would be interesting to see her talk to more people who disagree with her on the topic (the interview with the politician was really good, for example)@@yaeluzan1

    • @yaeluzan1
      @yaeluzan1 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@hannubal4976 good point if she lets him talk tho

  • @KalashniKEV762
    @KalashniKEV762 10 месяцев назад +51

    After spending years in my 20s advising Iraqi forces and conducting counterinsurgency operations in the North, Central Iraq, and down South, I now realize what we were missing all along that could have peacefully resolved the conflict- WALMART. Thank you, Jack-O.

    • @middleagebrotips3454
      @middleagebrotips3454 10 месяцев назад +3

      I would argue that well fed and healthy people with good jobs don't do terrorism, but a Walmart?

    • @KalashniKEV762
      @KalashniKEV762 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@middleagebrotips3454 "Terrorism" is an almost meaningless term, but the vast majority of those who carry out what we call "Teror Attacks" are well fed and healthy with good jobs. Like, actually... almost all of them.

    • @Gangsta1168
      @Gangsta1168 10 месяцев назад +2

      But what would happen to Wal-Mart if 🇺🇸 can't get cheap stuff from 🇨🇳 anymore?? 😄😄

    • @Primal391
      @Primal391 10 месяцев назад

      ⁠@@KalashniKEV762true, Hamas is well fed, fat and happy for sure. They steal all the money, medical supplies, food and water from the Palestinians. The high ranking leaders don’t even live there. They live in luxury high rises in Qatar and worth billions. All the while the people suffer. Hamas does a great job of brainwashing the civilians and ruling with fear.

    • @ahmedomar8552
      @ahmedomar8552 10 месяцев назад

      @@Gangsta1168but what would happen to china if the US stopped buying their stuff? It’s creepy how we hate each other but we’re totally dependent on each other at the same time

  • @Luxuriouswhite
    @Luxuriouswhite 10 месяцев назад +2

    Love how people in the comments call him brainwashed when he was literally a commander in Iraq fighting WITH Iraqi soldiers against jihadists. He admitted that he doesnt kno the situation in Gaza and has never been there, but is explaining his experience in Iraq fighting alongside friendly Iraqi soldiers and dealing with the poppulace and what the mindset was. The situation in Gaza is obviously way different and Palestinians hate Isrealis so the likelyhood of gettin civilian Palestinians on the side of Israeli seems extremely unlikely

    • @aaronhrynyk
      @aaronhrynyk 10 месяцев назад

      The progressives and democrats in the comment section are too stupid to have this deep of thought