We have over 15k miles with the comma 3/Open Pilot. It works amazingly well! My wife's parents live around 300 mile away. We got here several times a year. Its been awesome for that trip. I just installed it on my 2020 Explorer Platinum. Love it!
Yea I’ve absolutely loved mine, seriously a life changer. But that’s awesome, I didn’t know Ford was supported, do you happen to know if the f-150 is also?
@@ConsumerTechReviewHigh-Speed I think 2021+ is or will be supported shortly. It probably is right now. You have to have copilot 360+ I believe which is lane centering ( not just lane keep assist) and adaptive cruise. If you do it's most likely supported. With my explorer it didn't recognize the car at first but within a few hours they had written a custom fork for my car and it's worked great since.
Great showcase! I have had a comma 2 then 3 for about 3 years and driven over 40000 miles with openpilot in my 2019 Toyota corolla hatchback. I even drove cross country with it! Amazing tech.
I've had mine for about a year now (VW Arteon). For those deciding whether it's worth it or not, trust me it is. I drove to Florida and back recently from Ohio and it drove 95 percent of the way there and back.
Hi, I also have an Arteon and am interested in openpilot. Can you tell me more about the install, how it works with the Arteon, etc.? I can’t find much specific to the Arteon online. Also what year is your car? Thank you.
@@jasonbarnes122 My car is a 22' (US version). The physical install is very easy. You mount the unit to the windshield using the included bracket, then you run the J533 cable (sold separately) from the unit to the CAM bus port located under the dash on the driver side on the left side of the steering column. That is essentially it. To control the device, you use the stock cruise control controls on the steering wheel.
@@Steam-Player all 21 Camrys have TSS 2.5+ which is the newest version not including some 23/24s with TSS 3.0. As long as it has TSS 2.0 or above it should be fine, but the commenter mentioned some being encrypted which I hadn’t heard before so that would Be worth investigating.
Great review, awesome product overall. I have a Rav4 and if you are going highway speeds with the lane assist, it's truly terrifying. The correction is constant and it's very uncomfortable and scary. So when I'm on a highway, I don't touch this feature at all. I used the adaptive cruise control exclusively, but never the lane assist. I literally found out about this product today. It's not even that expensive. I traded in a 2020 Civic Si, and it seems Honda did a much better job their adaptive cruise control in that it detects cars further out and will start breaking a lot sooner if it detects it slowing down, which creates a much more gradual stop. Unfortunately, the Si is stick (which is the reason I bought it, I love driving stick), but at 22 MPH it shuts off automatically. But it's a dream on highways.
My wife and I just rented a Tesla on a trip to the Bay area. I loved the torque, but IMO the Comma 3 is a superior experience. When I first installed the Comma (originally a Comma 2, then upgraded to a 3) my wife was skeptical. She now says she never wants a car that doesn't support this system.
You should have gotten a 2019 rx. The experience was a lot better in my 2019 rav4. More steering wheel torque and you notice steering wheel stays completely straight and centered on straight roads. You notice in his 2018 rx, the steering wheel moves left and right trying to stay centered. 2019 is where they updated the Lexus and Toyota sensors. Also, where you see his car almost drifts out of lane on a small curve, the 2019 and up wouldn’t have done that.
@@brett7011the car shown in this vid is a 2016 The commenter was talking about how it stays in the centre stock Comma AI just bridges that gap for older models in its most basic form
Clicked on this video just as a curiosity about the Comma 3X and Open Pilot but was absolutely shocked to see the small town I used to live in on RUclips. I basically did a Leonardo DiCaprio pointing at the screen meme. My wife told me to comment "How could you just drive by Micah's and not get a Black & White from Morgan". Thanks for the presentation, though. Not sure I'm actually interested in the product but it is fascinating that consumer tech has gotten as sophisticated as (though in combination with) major manufacturer tech.
Thanks for the awesome video! Any way you could do a follow up? Would love to hear your thoughts after using it for a few months. Also curious what the limit is in terms of tight turns and corners. Like, when will it not make the turn? Thanks again for the great video!
Love it. Are you able to go over the speed limit though? Like if the speed limit is 60 can you set it to go 70 so you’re not impeding traffic blowing past you?
Lane assist is not designed to be "auto steer" which is a different ADAS all together. Lane assist is designed to alert you when crossing the line and even help you from accidentally doing so when driving manually. Lane assist is not intended to be hands-free.
Very nice comparison! Some questions related to highway experience: 1. How does OpenPilot handle the case that other vehicles merging into your lane (assume your are on the right lane) on highway? Human usually switch to left lane, slow down, or speed up to let other vehicles in, depending on different scenarios, is OpenPilot smart enough to figure it out? 2. How does OpenPilot handle lane merging on highway? Sometimes 3 lanes can become 2 lanes and you have to merge into adjacent lane. Does OpenPilot do it automatically for you or it requires your control?
1. He will slow down and will keep A safe distance from the vehicle in front and the autopilot will not change lanes because it can't see what is behind him so it's need to do manually 2. autopilot does this automatically Depending on the country and the laws, it can make it confused since it is an American device, which is more unlikely to happen
Merges work perfectly fine in 95% of cases. Once when I was driving in heavy/crazy LA traffic, someone pulled right in front of me, and I wasn't sure if the merging was going to work quickly enough and took over. I think most drivers like to ride the person in front of them's bumper. And the fact that openpilot actually gives space may piss off other drivers. 🤷♂ But in general driving is much less stressful, especially for long road trips. In general, people do crazy shit on the road, and one day I think openpilot might just even help police to track them down and stop their bad driving behavior. (Because in general, most people do whatever the hell they want, disregarding the laws, because there is no consequence.)
Cool video! Also I see that you showed off a short drive of dragonpilot for a bit. You'll need to figure out why experimental mode is grayed out in your toggle settings and then you will be able to have it handle traffic lights and stop signs.
Experimental mode is still very experimental. It doesn't catch every stop sign and sometimes it confuses red lights for stop signs, also rail road crossings for red lights etc. Plus you also need to set a destination and it drives well below the speed limit. It's fun to play around with but not totally viable yet. The toggle is probably grayed out because he didn't enable longitudinal controls. Also, it disables the factory emergency auto brake system.
@@Satmaan23 I was thinking maybe he was not on the right branch. Some cars require you be on the master ci or devel branch on stock OP for that (seems like maybe not applicable to him since he's driving a Lexus and they don't have that footnote in cars.md) so you may be right that he needs to toggle OP longitudinal as well. I had my fair share of OP experimental mode so I know what you mean. And yeah, depending on his car model year, emergency braking could be disabled but I guess you can get a smart DSU for that.
I think i seen people from europe use it even in 2020. Call it a GPS or anything lol it makes a lot of sense to get it if you spend a lot of time on the road
2:28 My stock LKAS also had ping ponging. How is this allowed from manufacturers in 2023? 😆 (Also use a comma 3 here, which makes it butter smooth driving.)
Toyota has the worst lane centering, I have the high lander 2023 and the Tucson 2022 and the Tucson lane centering works 90% of the time in the city and highway roads, the highlander is more like 50% of the time
Can we keep our hands on the steering wheel while it is engaged and easily override it if we want? Like we are on a a crowded highway and want to keep our hands on the wheel but we still want to let it do it's thing. Does that work?
I really don't like when you're talking about something and showing us completely unrelated footage. "as you can see there's a truck stopped up here and it's braking" ....actually no I can't, because you didn't show it.
It cannot, but there are forks where you can download map data and it will take the MPH from there and adjust. It will post the speed limit on the screen as well
Get a Porsche Macan- rest a bottle of water in the steering wheel and drive hands free on the highway for hours. This Lexus tech is about 10 years behind Porsche.
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We have over 15k miles with the comma 3/Open Pilot. It works amazingly well! My wife's parents live around 300 mile away. We got here several times a year. Its been awesome for that trip. I just installed it on my 2020 Explorer Platinum. Love it!
Yea I’ve absolutely loved mine, seriously a life changer. But that’s awesome, I didn’t know Ford was supported, do you happen to know if the f-150 is also?
@@ConsumerTechReviewHigh-Speed I think 2021+ is or will be supported shortly. It probably is right now. You have to have copilot 360+ I believe which is lane centering ( not just lane keep assist) and adaptive cruise. If you do it's most likely supported.
With my explorer it didn't recognize the car at first but within a few hours they had written a custom fork for my car and it's worked great since.
Great showcase! I have had a comma 2 then 3 for about 3 years and driven over 40000 miles with openpilot in my 2019 Toyota corolla hatchback. I even drove cross country with it! Amazing tech.
I've had mine for about a year now (VW Arteon). For those deciding whether it's worth it or not, trust me it is. I drove to Florida and back recently from Ohio and it drove 95 percent of the way there and back.
Hi, I also have an Arteon and am interested in openpilot. Can you tell me more about the install, how it works with the Arteon, etc.? I can’t find much specific to the Arteon online. Also what year is your car? Thank you.
@@jasonbarnes122 My car is a 22' (US version). The physical install is very easy. You mount the unit to the windshield using the included bracket, then you run the J533 cable (sold separately) from the unit to the CAM bus port located under the dash on the driver side on the left side of the steering column. That is essentially it. To control the device, you use the stock cruise control controls on the steering wheel.
Omg that’s insane!!!
You didn't mention the year of your RX. Toyota's safety system varies from year to year, the newer versions provide more steering torque hardware.
The newest versions are encrypted and don't work with open pilot
His is 2018. 2019 or 2020 is where they improved their safety system and you can drastically tell using open pilot.
I wonder how well it’ll work on a 2021 Toyota Camry TRD.
@@cmlxjcky which versions are encrypted?
@@Steam-Player all 21 Camrys have TSS 2.5+ which is the newest version not including some 23/24s with TSS 3.0. As long as it has TSS 2.0 or above it should be fine, but the commenter mentioned some being encrypted which I hadn’t heard before so that would
Be worth investigating.
Great review, awesome product overall. I have a Rav4 and if you are going highway speeds with the lane assist, it's truly terrifying. The correction is constant and it's very uncomfortable and scary. So when I'm on a highway, I don't touch this feature at all. I used the adaptive cruise control exclusively, but never the lane assist. I literally found out about this product today. It's not even that expensive. I traded in a 2020 Civic Si, and it seems Honda did a much better job their adaptive cruise control in that it detects cars further out and will start breaking a lot sooner if it detects it slowing down, which creates a much more gradual stop. Unfortunately, the Si is stick (which is the reason I bought it, I love driving stick), but at 22 MPH it shuts off automatically. But it's a dream on highways.
My wife and I just rented a Tesla on a trip to the Bay area. I loved the torque, but IMO the Comma 3 is a superior experience. When I first installed the Comma (originally a Comma 2, then upgraded to a 3) my wife was skeptical. She now says she never wants a car that doesn't support this system.
I agree. I recently got a Tesla model 3 and in many ways I also prefer Comma to Tesla’s autopilot
You should have gotten a 2019 rx. The experience was a lot better in my 2019 rav4. More steering wheel torque and you notice steering wheel stays completely straight and centered on straight roads. You notice in his 2018 rx, the steering wheel moves left and right trying to stay centered. 2019 is where they updated the Lexus and Toyota sensors. Also, where you see his car almost drifts out of lane on a small curve, the 2019 and up wouldn’t have done that.
u mean the stock system or the comma ai?
Dang. I’m getting a 2018 rav 4 limited for an insane deal from a family member so I’m assuming I should not get the comma ai system?
@@brett7011 probably not Brett 😢
Is the 2019 RX just as good as the 2019 Corolla or RAV4?
@@brett7011the car shown in this vid is a 2016
The commenter was talking about how it stays in the centre stock
Comma AI just bridges that gap for older models in its most basic form
Clicked on this video just as a curiosity about the Comma 3X and Open Pilot but was absolutely shocked to see the small town I used to live in on RUclips. I basically did a Leonardo DiCaprio pointing at the screen meme.
My wife told me to comment "How could you just drive by Micah's and not get a Black & White from Morgan".
Thanks for the presentation, though. Not sure I'm actually interested in the product but it is fascinating that consumer tech has gotten as sophisticated as (though in combination with) major manufacturer tech.
Small world!
keep doing updates of this, i'm sure you'll get lots of views. ppl are definitely interested in AI self driving.
Thanks for the awesome video! Any way you could do a follow up? Would love to hear your thoughts after using it for a few months. Also curious what the limit is in terms of tight turns and corners. Like, when will it not make the turn? Thanks again for the great video!
Same here!
Great video! Does anyone know if Open Pilot works just as good on the 2019/2020 RX as it does on the 2019/2020 Corolla or RAV4?
Love it. Are you able to go over the speed limit though? Like if the speed limit is 60 can you set it to go 70 so you’re not impeding traffic blowing past you?
Yes you can, I believe the top cruise control is 90.
Lane assist is not designed to be "auto steer" which is a different ADAS all together. Lane assist is designed to alert you when crossing the line and even help you from accidentally doing so when driving manually. Lane assist is not intended to be hands-free.
Great video, you are an excellent communicator!
Very nice comparison! Some questions related to highway experience:
1. How does OpenPilot handle the case that other vehicles merging into your lane (assume your are on the right lane) on highway? Human usually switch to left lane, slow down, or speed up to let other vehicles in, depending on different scenarios, is OpenPilot smart enough to figure it out?
2. How does OpenPilot handle lane merging on highway? Sometimes 3 lanes can become 2 lanes and you have to merge into adjacent lane. Does OpenPilot do it automatically for you or it requires your control?
1. He will slow down and will keep A safe distance from the vehicle in front and the autopilot will not change lanes because it can't see what is behind him so it's need to do manually
2. autopilot does this automatically Depending on the country and the laws, it can make it confused since it is an American device, which is more unlikely to happen
@@Fumadoresdeborracha2 Thank you!
@@sandcatgo you are welcome
Merges work perfectly fine in 95% of cases. Once when I was driving in heavy/crazy LA traffic, someone pulled right in front of me, and I wasn't sure if the merging was going to work quickly enough and took over. I think most drivers like to ride the person in front of them's bumper. And the fact that openpilot actually gives space may piss off other drivers. 🤷♂ But in general driving is much less stressful, especially for long road trips.
In general, people do crazy shit on the road, and one day I think openpilot might just even help police to track them down and stop their bad driving behavior. (Because in general, most people do whatever the hell they want, disregarding the laws, because there is no consequence.)
Does it automatically cancel if you take over steering control?
What about stop and go traffic? Will it automatically accelerate?
Yes
Would it still keep the limitation of my Acura ILX system that can't use ACC under 40KM and only autosteers in lanes above 60 or something?
Cool video! Also I see that you showed off a short drive of dragonpilot for a bit. You'll need to figure out why experimental mode is grayed out in your toggle settings and then you will be able to have it handle traffic lights and stop signs.
Experimental mode is still very experimental. It doesn't catch every stop sign and sometimes it confuses red lights for stop signs, also rail road crossings for red lights etc. Plus you also need to set a destination and it drives well below the speed limit. It's fun to play around with but not totally viable yet. The toggle is probably grayed out because he didn't enable longitudinal controls. Also, it disables the factory emergency auto brake system.
@@Satmaan23 I was thinking maybe he was not on the right branch. Some cars require you be on the master ci or devel branch on stock OP for that (seems like maybe not applicable to him since he's driving a Lexus and they don't have that footnote in cars.md) so you may be right that he needs to toggle OP longitudinal as well. I had my fair share of OP experimental mode so I know what you mean. And yeah, depending on his car model year, emergency braking could be disabled but I guess you can get a smart DSU for that.
@RSCats maybe he needs to pay for prime to enable experimental mode.
@@Satmaan23 So paying for comma prime is really for Nav on OP while on stock OP. Experimental mode will work without prime (just won’t navigate)
Bought a Lexus, smart man.
what year is your lexus?
one common problem of open pilot is that it usually has the problem connecting to the car system.
This is so cool. I wish it would work with Mercedes.
Love this product.
I totally was not aware of this tech. Awesome! (Even if I can not use it in Germany)
Just call it a stereo dash cam
I think i seen people from europe use it even in 2020. Call it a GPS or anything lol it makes a lot of sense to get it if you spend a lot of time on the road
I have the same car and c3 you also need the sdsu to support longitude control.
You have a SDSU and it controls longitude?
2:28 My stock LKAS also had ping ponging. How is this allowed from manufacturers in 2023? 😆 (Also use a comma 3 here, which makes it butter smooth driving.)
can you set gps and comma 3 / open pilot will take you from a to b?
Where can I buy an open pilot?
From CommaAI
Too bad it's not offered for the 2022 Sienna...
Try experimental mode!
why companies like dogge, gm , ford etc, dont move to open pilot?
Toyota has the worst lane centering, I have the high lander 2023 and the Tucson 2022 and the Tucson lane centering works 90% of the time in the city and highway roads, the highlander is more like 50% of the time
Lane assist engages/disengages due to speed. One has to be above 66 km/h.
On only some vehicles is this true. On my car in the video lane assist is always available at any speed.
I wouldn't say complete faith, but much, much higher than stock ADAS.
It must be 'open source' due to USA trade laws and how open AI CANNOT legally sell the self-driving software.
DIY or professional installation?
DIY, super easy. The hard part is making sure it's mounted straight
Can we keep our hands on the steering wheel while it is engaged and easily override it if we want? Like we are on a a crowded highway and want to keep our hands on the wheel but we still want to let it do it's thing. Does that work?
Yes it's a collaborative seamless experience
If it's self driving, I don't wanna see your hands on the steering wheel bud😂js
SOMETIMES it engages? It ping pongs? How about an unprotected left on a city street? Tesla can do it.
The name is really bad. Comma means pause. Is it because it pauses for the driver to take over?. Hotz should've given it a better name.
Amazing how much risk people are willing to take driving
First and W vid (Pls ping)
I really don't like when you're talking about something and showing us completely unrelated footage. "as you can see there's a truck stopped up here and it's braking" ....actually no I can't, because you didn't show it.
Can Open Pilot read speed limit signs and adjust speed?
It cannot, but there are forks where you can download map data and it will take the MPH from there and adjust. It will post the speed limit on the screen as well
I would be best if you use an action camera to film. The footage is too narrow and jerky
Get a Porsche Macan- rest a bottle of water in the steering wheel and drive hands free on the highway for hours.
This Lexus tech is about 10 years behind Porsche.
Dont call it cellphone, its propriatry hardware.
Yeah the older Comma hardware were phones, but this is custom
Of course it's human-like. It's an end-to-end AI. Don't kids visit github anymore?