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A potential upside to bounce lands can be if you want to be discarding creatures early such as The Mimeo decks. Turn two bounce land into discarding something huge is frequent in my pod.
I agree with your assessment at 20:20 that you shouldn't play Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse in *most* green decks, but I would like to mention dedicated Landfall decks as an exception. If the doubling up of landfall ramps you with Lotus Cobra etc., makes you an additional 4/4, buffs all your plants with an additional +1/+1 counter etc., I'll gladly effectively end up playing a tapped land for that upside. And that's before graveyard shenenigans even enter the picture.
Agree with snuff out. Assuming budget isn’t an issue (and I’m seeing the tomb and demonic tutor etc so I imagine it isn’t) then deathly rollick is much better for free black removal.
I think the age of the player needs to be taken into account when considering 'budget'. A player with Ancient Tomb and DT could be someone who spent $, or it could be someone like me who has their cards from the 90's and pulled them in $4 packs. I've never bought an Ancient Tomb, but I have 3 of them in decks.
@Trajan Perhaps it's metagame dependent. I've played Snuff Out anywhere from CEDH to regular commander. By and large, it has been incredibly useful, including luring opponents into making plays because they think you are shields down. It occasionally sits, but IMO is a worthwhile staple for my black decks along with Rollick. I do agree with Zack though- only ever play 1 card with limitations on targets if you play any
Just to say. There are common tapped lands with dual landtype that works great with slow fetches or farseek or treevisits if you looking for budget options.
Hey I would love if you did a little intro on what commander and/win con or goal is for the decks. I didn’t know what commanders were most of the time.
Demo, what’s your opinion on Reduce to Memory? I like it as a sorcery speed Generous Gift, but it exiles instead. Plus, a sorcery speed generous gift is still a generous gift.
Green decks should be the only decks playing temple of the false god as it's the color most guaranteed to activate it. Also bounce lands go great in landfall decks.
I also don't run Terr exp or evolving wilds, but if you go get a fetid pools with bad river - they BOTH enter tapped. definitely not the same speed as terramorphic expanse getting a basic.
Force of despair isnt as bad as people think. Gets around hexproof, can undo lving death, blows out simic creature storm. Its a better murder with range. U can cast 4 free, its a sleeper
I disagree with removing Temple of the False Gods just because it's "a green deck". I actually think it's best in a green deck that's using lands to ramp.
I couldn't agree with you more on torment/exsanguinate. I feel like I play against a different version of the same monoblack strategy every month. Coffers, stronghold, crypt ghast, gauntlet of power, etc. Only to tutor up torment of hailfire or exsanguinate. Why would people want to win via such a boring method.
My bank is a pain in the rear. I wish P*tre*n had gift cards, because I have some goofy ideas to share, like Burakos//Haunted One mono-black party, but there needs to be an even number (as possible) of warriors, wizards, rogues, and clerics... or Hakim (Loreweaver) mono-blue enchantments.
As for the Oracle Mul Daya, It seems to me that people include it because of the mindset that it's an expensive card so it must be good. True, that expensive cards are good, but not shoehorn into any deck they can go in good. Just because a card is expensive isn't the main drive to put it in a deck. For example, Wood Elemental is never really going to be good despite its price tag. Some cards are expensive for very different reasons aside from gameplay.
The only reason I would put an evolving wilds or terramorphic expance in the deck is to play it if I feel like I need to shuffle my deck better. There have been times when I was getting pretty bad draws and playing one of those let me shuffle my deck better to get better draws
Are the deck doctor services available at all levels of your patreon, or are they just a high-tier privilege? Either way, it’s great to hear some of the decision-making that you do out loud!
Why would you be hype for a mana rock that dies to wraths and can't tap immediately? Etb tapped is irrelevant only on turn 2. Any other turn of the game, Arcane Signet costs 1 mana to cast because it gives you that 1 mana back, that's why i really dislike mana rocks that etb tapped, which OoP effectively does.
do you have an Instagram account? I've been looking for it for a while and couldn't find anything. Just love this content so much wish it was on there!
One mana rock i always consider when i play green is liquimetal torqe, simply to turn artifact removal into nonland-permanent removal.
A potential upside to bounce lands can be if you want to be discarding creatures early such as The Mimeo decks. Turn two bounce land into discarding something huge is frequent in my pod.
I agree with your assessment at 20:20 that you shouldn't play Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse in *most* green decks, but I would like to mention dedicated Landfall decks as an exception. If the doubling up of landfall ramps you with Lotus Cobra etc., makes you an additional 4/4, buffs all your plants with an additional +1/+1 counter etc., I'll gladly effectively end up playing a tapped land for that upside. And that's before graveyard shenenigans even enter the picture.
Love your content bro, keep up the great work
Agree with snuff out. Assuming budget isn’t an issue (and I’m seeing the tomb and demonic tutor etc so I imagine it isn’t) then deathly rollick is much better for free black removal.
I think the age of the player needs to be taken into account when considering 'budget'.
A player with Ancient Tomb and DT could be someone who spent $, or it could be someone like me who has their cards from the 90's and pulled them in $4 packs. I've never bought an Ancient Tomb, but I have 3 of them in decks.
Deadly Rollick is awesome, but it is 1 card out of 99. Snuff Out is the 2nd and still amazing.
@@brendans1983 Yeah that’s true, could be the case
@@jakegorelick4660 I just feel snuff will sit in your hand being unplayable more often than not
@Trajan Perhaps it's metagame dependent. I've played Snuff Out anywhere from CEDH to regular commander. By and large, it has been incredibly useful, including luring opponents into making plays because they think you are shields down. It occasionally sits, but IMO is a worthwhile staple for my black decks along with Rollick. I do agree with Zack though- only ever play 1 card with limitations on targets if you play any
Just to say. There are common tapped lands with dual landtype that works great with slow fetches or farseek or treevisits if you looking for budget options.
Great stuff demo, your insight is always appreciated 🔥
I don’t know man. I will not leave home with out dismember. Love the vids! Keep it up!
Hey I would love if you did a little intro on what commander and/win con or goal is for the decks. I didn’t know what commanders were most of the time.
Demo, what’s your opinion on Reduce to Memory? I like it as a sorcery speed Generous Gift, but it exiles instead. Plus, a sorcery speed generous gift is still a generous gift.
bought a few copies as soon as it came out. never used it. just too many better options.
I happen to use it. It depends how tight your deck is. I had space.
Green decks should be the only decks playing temple of the false god as it's the color most guaranteed to activate it. Also bounce lands go great in landfall decks.
I also don't run Terr exp or evolving wilds, but if you go get a fetid pools with bad river - they BOTH enter tapped. definitely not the same speed as terramorphic expanse getting a basic.
Force of despair isnt as bad as people think. Gets around hexproof, can undo lving death, blows out simic creature storm. Its a better murder with range. U can cast 4 free, its a sleeper
I disagree with removing Temple of the False Gods just because it's "a green deck". I actually think it's best in a green deck that's using lands to ramp.
like in every deck temple is really bad early in the game. and for me, not needed in a green deck so not worth the risk of getting it early.
@@edhdeckbuilding fair enough
@@edhdeckbuilding A retort would be that green is the only color that can quickly get enough lands even if you do draw Temple early.
I couldn't agree with you more on torment/exsanguinate. I feel like I play against a different version of the same monoblack strategy every month. Coffers, stronghold, crypt ghast, gauntlet of power, etc. Only to tutor up torment of hailfire or exsanguinate. Why would people want to win via such a boring method.
My bank is a pain in the rear. I wish P*tre*n had gift cards, because I have some goofy ideas to share, like Burakos//Haunted One mono-black party, but there needs to be an even number (as possible) of warriors, wizards, rogues, and clerics... or Hakim (Loreweaver) mono-blue enchantments.
As for the Oracle Mul Daya, It seems to me that people include it because of the mindset that it's an expensive card so it must be good. True, that expensive cards are good, but not shoehorn into any deck they can go in good. Just because a card is expensive isn't the main drive to put it in a deck. For example, Wood Elemental is never really going to be good despite its price tag. Some cards are expensive for very different reasons aside from gameplay.
The only reason I would put an evolving wilds or terramorphic expance in the deck is to play it if I feel like I need to shuffle my deck better. There have been times when I was getting pretty bad draws and playing one of those let me shuffle my deck better to get better draws
That makes no sense.
Are the deck doctor services available at all levels of your patreon, or are they just a high-tier privilege? Either way, it’s great to hear some of the decision-making that you do out loud!
I know you are not super experienced but do you do cedh doctors?
i could. i played cedh for awhile, but i'm certainly not an expert.
How do I submit lists for deck doctor?
you join my patreon
Why would you be hype for a mana rock that dies to wraths and can't tap immediately? Etb tapped is irrelevant only on turn 2. Any other turn of the game, Arcane Signet costs 1 mana to cast because it gives you that 1 mana back, that's why i really dislike mana rocks that etb tapped, which OoP effectively does.
do you have an Instagram account? I've been looking for it for a while and couldn't find anything. Just love this content so much wish it was on there!
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