We're talking about the company that just made "Octopath Traveler", "Triangle Strategy", and the Kingdom Hearts series. Trying to predict the name of the next entry in a game series from Square could be an impossible task.
@@stonehorn4641 yeah, it reflects the game at least for the 2D-HD games. I love Square, to be clear. Just having some fun with their innovations in the field of naming.
My husband introduces himself as Jacob for the same reason as Jacob Geller: that’s his name and it would not occur to him to say something else. Also I know a Ben Hansen from college. And my mom’s name is Janet; I don’t think she could handle it if I tried to call her little J.
I like Ben but he has his handful of community members that he sticks to and doesn’t usually stray from them. You’ll hear 100 questions from Bob before you hear yours.
The story in Crisis core is very akin to Kingdom hearts, just like Final fantasy VII-2. But the main problem is that both games spoil some cool story twists from Final fantasy VII.
If people fell in love with ff7 from remake and care about spoilers they should really just play the original, it's on every platform and is obviously an amazing game. I played it for the first time a year before remake came out and it was fun with the 3x speed option
@@hoaaaaaaaaable Agreed, I played it immediately after Remake using the 3x speed and stuff. How could anyone not?? Obviously a big part of this trilogy is messing around with the original story and I feel like that's kinda why Ever Crisis is coming to provide that for some people.
The developer did an interview on RUclips fully admitting the self awareness of the tropes and cliches and cringe of the story. I got a sense of that before even playing the game thinking there was no way someone could be so tone deaf and I love the story for the cheese factor and how it just breaks up the gameplay of running levels over and over and some of it is genuinely funny either because its a good joke or it's just so cringe. It's my game of the year by a long shot. I've never played anything quite like it. The graphics are amazing with the art style and the music from machinegirl blends so perfectly with it that this game genuinely expanded my genre horizons and I bought the machinegirl soundtrack (2 discs) and other albums from iTunes. I love the world this takes place in and I want to see another game and/or DLC. Don't skip this one. Forget about "cards" being in the marketing and just think fast gunner. I'd say it has more in common with DOOM than it does Hearthstone for example. Cards are just a quick visual way to see what gun you have and it's a quality of life thing that makes it so you can "play" your gun off instinct. It's great to speedrun your own records, global records, and compete with friends. I've been beating every one of my friends scores as I play through and it's made me better at the game. I also love watching the speedrun community because you learn tips and tricks and alternate routes. I heard someone call this game "speedrunning for the rest of us" and I think that nails it. I only recently got into speedrunning this year when I replayed Celeste and this game is one of the best followups. Again...Neon White is easily my game of the year and I don't foresee ANY game beating it for me. It's just so fresh, so polished, so novel, and exactly the kind of game I didn't know I wanted. If you took all the things I'm interested in from music and movies to anime and videogames and put them in a blender it would be something exactly like Neon White. This is a game I would buy the Switch for just because it's exclusive to Switch and PC currently but I already have a Switch so I'm thinking of getting a Steam Deck to run this with a mouse and keyboard. There's other reasons I want the steam deck but this game is just one of many.
PSA: aspirin brands tend to have caffeine added to them. If you don't consume caffeine --- which people really shouldn't --- then on those occasions that you do get a headache caffeine tends to help
Janet defending the Switch is always so funny. If you want to really enjoy Neon White play it on a PC or a better console than Switch when it releases.
FF15 you could only play as Noctis for the first year or so until they did all 3 dlc chapters with the party members. After the last dlc they updated the game so that you could use the other party members in battles.
Yawns being contagious goes back to our caveman days. Within packs it was a way of signalling that there are no predators around and its safe to go to sleep.
Don't get the whole "WHOOAAA NEON WHITE SO WEIRD LOL WTF" thing. Looks like a wicked fun puzzley platformer fps anyone could enjoy. Obviously the visual novel junk is the real "for freaks" bit that I wonder might detract from it's potential mainstream success but looks ripe to grow a cult Undertale-esque fanbase that'll back whatever Mr. Esposito does next!
FFVII Remake didn't really click with me, but I'm looking for Crisis Core and Final Fantasy XVI!! Edit: Final Fantasy VII is already considered its own sub series within SE; all the media that encapsulate the FFVII universe is called the "Compilation of Final Fantasy VII".
its weird why everybody is calling the FF7R sequel as part #. it has a name already... and i think FF7R is an ok game, but hanson always makes it as if it was the best game of all time haha.
It's so weird to me that having a remake of FF7 spread out across "only" three games is somehow the good outcome. Am I nuts for thinking that this is all needlessly excessive? Do we really need three 70 dollar games to tell the story that fit on three CD-Roms in the 90s?
Especially when half of FF7R is "extra content", which is essentially just a bunch of generic fetch quests to pad the lenght of the game and justify the price.
Its only needlessly excessive if you didnt play the first one, dont really know what youre talking about, or dont want to properly describe the experience of FF7R pt. 1 lol I guess spoilers to anyone who hasnt played, but its completely going with a similar but different narrative using the same cast of characters and settings. Not only that, they definitely enhance the heck out of the game down to the minute details (arena tournaments with an actual house boss as well as many other incredible bosses, areas are blown up not just graphically but thematically, combat is significantly better both moment-to-moment and progression-wise, easter eggs like the Happy Turtle theme getting like 10 different renditions with a large budget behind it, and I can really make a list like 100 items long). If people dont want to play the remake, thats totally understandable and fine with me, but I would really appreciate the negativity around it stops at this point in regards to this being implied as a balooned game with no substance to justify it being larger. They 100%, without question, found reason to justify it after playing the first game lol. It's definitely a $60-$70 game worth full price. All it comes down to is whether they will stick the landing with the ending of the trilogy (whether they do or don't this will still be an amazing series of quality games either way, so much love and care is put into the moment-to-moment stuff that a bad ending wouldnt ruin it for me and I'm sure many others)
@@PantsaBear Absolutely. I think you explained well what makes the remake stand on it's own. I'm not discounting that by any means. As someone who's only Final Fantasy-curious, I might not be quite as eager to absorb every morsel of world-building that they added or lore that they expanded upon. Taking a beloved game and turning it into this huge 10-year project just strikes me as a very Square-Enix thing to do, for better or worse. I don't think even a company like Capcom (who was a pretty decent track record with remakes) could get away with something like this. I guess the remake saga will have to be judged on it's merits many years down the line. I just don't know if I'm going to be along for the ride because it's such a massive investment.
So you stopped watching a podcast because someone talks too much? That’s sound logic. It’s like not watching the NBA because someone made too many baskets.
@@smellywaffels1967 lol no. She rambles on and tosses out a word salad which screws up her entire point. There's an art to podcasting, to knowing how to speak just like public speaking. She's not good at it and idk why Hanson puts up with it still. It's ruining the podcast and while I miss Hanson, Kyle, Leo, Sara and the crew, there's plenty other podcasts out there.
Calling Neon White a deck building or card game is marketing BS. The game really isn't all that interesting. You are a freak if you like anime, but combining that with a first person action game isn't any freakier.
I mean they never called it a deckbuilding game, they called it "card-based" which it is lmao. And Idk how you can see gameplay of the game and think it "isn't interesting." There are so many facets to the games systems and how the physics work, and the game does a fantastic job of ramping up the difficulty and layering in new weapons and mechanics.
@@GATESOFKELL Card-based in name only, a marketing gimmick. Jacob called it a deck builder. If you like this burgeoning genre of indie first person action platformers, more power to you, but the devs and reviewers are selling it as more than that.
@@jakez32 I completely agree. I rolled my eyes when Jacob called it a deck builder. The term “cards” can be replaced with any word synonymous with “item” and it would get the point across. I don’t have a clue why they marketed them as cards. On the contrary,🖕🏼you though because the game plays incredibly.
Help support the show directly and unlock great benefits by checking out MinnMax on Patreon! www.patreon.com/minnmax
Ben you should totally do a one off episode about ff7 rebirth and try to get maximillion dood on for it!
The plucky squire was such an impressive trailer, can't wait for it
Thank you so much for the shout out as the Dogma champ it makes me too happy to hear Ben say that
How do we feel about Final Fantasy VII Rejoice for the next one? Because Seph will be pretty excited to get his mom back
""Lake Minnetonka" lmaoooo
RIP Prince
I believe the voice asking if she died in the past was Tifa and not Aerith, a twist? Maybe I’m wrong
Yes, it was definitely Tifa. They were speaking about nibelheim, it seems.
We're talking about the company that just made "Octopath Traveler", "Triangle Strategy", and the Kingdom Hearts series. Trying to predict the name of the next entry in a game series from Square could be an impossible task.
Triangle Strategy makes sense when you play the actual game.
@@stonehorn4641 yeah, it reflects the game at least for the 2D-HD games. I love Square, to be clear. Just having some fun with their innovations in the field of naming.
@@stonehorn4641 I'm playing it right now and no it doesn't, Square Enix is just dumb. Next you'll defend Balan Wonderworld.
Zarvot, the game from the Skate Story dev, is really good and looks awesome in Vivid mode on the OLED switch.
A stacked ass podcast.
My husband introduces himself as Jacob for the same reason as Jacob Geller: that’s his name and it would not occur to him to say something else.
Also I know a Ben Hansen from college. And my mom’s name is Janet; I don’t think she could handle it if I tried to call her little J.
That Lord of the Ring bit that absolutely slayed me...😂
If I keep trying maybe he’ll read my question some day
I like Ben but he has his handful of community members that he sticks to and doesn’t usually stray from them. You’ll hear 100 questions from Bob before you hear yours.
1:30:45 "Games that look but I know I'll forget about" -> you could always just wishlist them
The story in Crisis core is very akin to Kingdom hearts, just like Final fantasy VII-2. But the main problem is that both games spoil some cool story twists from Final fantasy VII.
If people fell in love with ff7 from remake and care about spoilers they should really just play the original, it's on every platform and is obviously an amazing game. I played it for the first time a year before remake came out and it was fun with the 3x speed option
@@hoaaaaaaaaable Agreed, I played it immediately after Remake using the 3x speed and stuff. How could anyone not?? Obviously a big part of this trilogy is messing around with the original story and I feel like that's kinda why Ever Crisis is coming to provide that for some people.
Missed joke opportunity at 14:11, Leo could’ve made a joke about Geoff Keighley turning his hat into a visor
Whatever happened to talking about Card Shark?
We failed. Card shark is good though!
@@Gameonysus I was enjoying it, but I hit a game breaking bug 😢
The developer did an interview on RUclips fully admitting the self awareness of the tropes and cliches and cringe of the story. I got a sense of that before even playing the game thinking there was no way someone could be so tone deaf and I love the story for the cheese factor and how it just breaks up the gameplay of running levels over and over and some of it is genuinely funny either because its a good joke or it's just so cringe. It's my game of the year by a long shot. I've never played anything quite like it. The graphics are amazing with the art style and the music from machinegirl blends so perfectly with it that this game genuinely expanded my genre horizons and I bought the machinegirl soundtrack (2 discs) and other albums from iTunes. I love the world this takes place in and I want to see another game and/or DLC. Don't skip this one. Forget about "cards" being in the marketing and just think fast gunner. I'd say it has more in common with DOOM than it does Hearthstone for example. Cards are just a quick visual way to see what gun you have and it's a quality of life thing that makes it so you can "play" your gun off instinct. It's great to speedrun your own records, global records, and compete with friends. I've been beating every one of my friends scores as I play through and it's made me better at the game. I also love watching the speedrun community because you learn tips and tricks and alternate routes. I heard someone call this game "speedrunning for the rest of us" and I think that nails it. I only recently got into speedrunning this year when I replayed Celeste and this game is one of the best followups. Again...Neon White is easily my game of the year and I don't foresee ANY game beating it for me. It's just so fresh, so polished, so novel, and exactly the kind of game I didn't know I wanted. If you took all the things I'm interested in from music and movies to anime and videogames and put them in a blender it would be something exactly like Neon White. This is a game I would buy the Switch for just because it's exclusive to Switch and PC currently but I already have a Switch so I'm thinking of getting a Steam Deck to run this with a mouse and keyboard. There's other reasons I want the steam deck but this game is just one of many.
51:55
Strongly disagree, the Devolver MaxPass+ Showcase was the best one yet. This year's was good, but I found it to be a step down.
PSA: aspirin brands tend to have caffeine added to them. If you don't consume caffeine --- which people really shouldn't --- then on those occasions that you do get a headache caffeine tends to help
Is Rebirth only PS5 or PS4 also?
There is no release date for Hellblade 2. Don't know where Jacob pulled that from.
Releasing Crisis Core bow seems like a bizarre choice. It spoils so much of the story of FF VII
Nah, it makes perfect sense if you played the Remake and are in the know. I won't say any more than that due to spoiling anyone
I think this version of Crisis Core is going to be faithful to the new timeline, not the original.
@@chrisallen9638 Even so there's still the potential for really big spoilers presuming Kalm is the same as the original.
@@PantsaBear I have played the remake, still think with changes to Crisis Core there's the possibility of big spoilers
Leo, is it the Cabot Habanero cheese? If so, v.good
Great to see Janet back!
Final Fantasy VII: Revive
(she come's back!)
You guys should check out the last faith.2d castlevania meets bloodborne
Had it my list to potentially talk about! Looks very cool.
connection issues are not a big deal, unless ben wants everyone on set we understand that technical issues happen. no worries
I thinks it's gonna be REVOLVE (it has to be two syllables)
I'm a huge FF fan and VIII and IX are the only mainline titles I haven't finished.
Janet defending the Switch is always so funny. If you want to really enjoy Neon White play it on a PC or a better console than Switch when it releases.
Seconded. Play it with a mouse and keyboard if you can.
FF15 you could only play as Noctis for the first year or so until they did all 3 dlc chapters with the party members. After the last dlc they updated the game so that you could use the other party members in battles.
15 was such a mess. 16 seems to have a more stable development cycle...only time will tell.
Totally disagree I loved FF15. It’s the best one since FF 10.
@@smellywaffels1967 Yeah, I enjoyed the game too. I still go back to it from time to time. FF10, also great.
Yawns being contagious goes back to our caveman days. Within packs it was a way of signalling that there are no predators around and its safe to go to sleep.
Don't get the whole "WHOOAAA NEON WHITE SO WEIRD LOL WTF" thing. Looks like a wicked fun puzzley platformer fps anyone could enjoy. Obviously the visual novel junk is the real "for freaks" bit that I wonder might detract from it's potential mainstream success but looks ripe to grow a cult Undertale-esque fanbase that'll back whatever Mr. Esposito does next!
I would be the champion of Legend of Grimrock 2.
Also, I fall asleep watching stuff daily and do the same thing as Ben. Not crazy!
We have this precidence with FF sequels in the past, even trilogies with FFXIII 1-2-3
FFVII Remake didn't really click with me, but I'm looking for Crisis Core and Final Fantasy XVI!!
Edit: Final Fantasy VII is already considered its own sub series within SE; all the media that encapsulate the FFVII universe is called the "Compilation of Final Fantasy VII".
@2:06:10: 🤔
FF7 Resolve or FF7 Resolution feels like a good one
Final Fantasy VII Renaissance, i know its not the RE sound be could be cool
The REAL overlooked game is Grandpa's Cheese from Steam's Secret Stash. (but seriously Bore Dome was really cool)
FFVII Revengeance! Edit: Jacob said it of course xD
Love Janet’s minmax tank top! 🥰
Crisis Cores combat is actually better than FF7Rs.
U gotta quit after accidentally kicking a kidnapped npc in red dead
its weird why everybody is calling the FF7R sequel as part #. it has a name already... and i think FF7R is an ok game, but hanson always makes it as if it was the best game of all time haha.
FF7: Resurrection
rebirth and resurrection is the same thing man
@@cambotech5556 one means you're born again. The other means you're brought back from the dead.
FF7: REally? Another one?
It's so weird to me that having a remake of FF7 spread out across "only" three games is somehow the good outcome. Am I nuts for thinking that this is all needlessly excessive? Do we really need three 70 dollar games to tell the story that fit on three CD-Roms in the 90s?
Especially when half of FF7R is "extra content", which is essentially just a bunch of generic fetch quests to pad the lenght of the game and justify the price.
Its only needlessly excessive if you didnt play the first one, dont really know what youre talking about, or dont want to properly describe the experience of FF7R pt. 1 lol
I guess spoilers to anyone who hasnt played, but its completely going with a similar but different narrative using the same cast of characters and settings. Not only that, they definitely enhance the heck out of the game down to the minute details (arena tournaments with an actual house boss as well as many other incredible bosses, areas are blown up not just graphically but thematically, combat is significantly better both moment-to-moment and progression-wise, easter eggs like the Happy Turtle theme getting like 10 different renditions with a large budget behind it, and I can really make a list like 100 items long).
If people dont want to play the remake, thats totally understandable and fine with me, but I would really appreciate the negativity around it stops at this point in regards to this being implied as a balooned game with no substance to justify it being larger. They 100%, without question, found reason to justify it after playing the first game lol. It's definitely a $60-$70 game worth full price. All it comes down to is whether they will stick the landing with the ending of the trilogy (whether they do or don't this will still be an amazing series of quality games either way, so much love and care is put into the moment-to-moment stuff that a bad ending wouldnt ruin it for me and I'm sure many others)
@@PantsaBear Absolutely. I think you explained well what makes the remake stand on it's own. I'm not discounting that by any means. As someone who's only Final Fantasy-curious, I might not be quite as eager to absorb every morsel of world-building that they added or lore that they expanded upon. Taking a beloved game and turning it into this huge 10-year project just strikes me as a very Square-Enix thing to do, for better or worse. I don't think even a company like Capcom (who was a pretty decent track record with remakes) could get away with something like this.
I guess the remake saga will have to be judged on it's merits many years down the line. I just don't know if I'm going to be along for the ride because it's such a massive investment.
Ff7 rebirth Feb or March 2024
I was enjoying the Janet free podcasts soooooo much. I really was hoping she'd moved on to something else :(
No Janet, will watch!
You'll be disappointed as you make it further into the podcast. I stopped with MinnMax show because of her as she just rambles.
So you stopped watching a podcast because someone talks too much? That’s sound logic. It’s like not watching the NBA because someone made too many baskets.
@@smellywaffels1967 lol no. She rambles on and tosses out a word salad which screws up her entire point. There's an art to podcasting, to knowing how to speak just like public speaking. She's not good at it and idk why Hanson puts up with it still. It's ruining the podcast and while I miss Hanson, Kyle, Leo, Sara and the crew, there's plenty other podcasts out there.
Worst take of the year - Scoffing at playing Neon White on keyboard and mouse?
Jacob Geller is consistently clueless.
Calling Neon White a deck building or card game is marketing BS. The game really isn't all that interesting. You are a freak if you like anime, but combining that with a first person action game isn't any freakier.
I mean they never called it a deckbuilding game, they called it "card-based" which it is lmao. And Idk how you can see gameplay of the game and think it "isn't interesting." There are so many facets to the games systems and how the physics work, and the game does a fantastic job of ramping up the difficulty and layering in new weapons and mechanics.
@@GATESOFKELL Card-based in name only, a marketing gimmick. Jacob called it a deck builder. If you like this burgeoning genre of indie first person action platformers, more power to you, but the devs and reviewers are selling it as more than that.
@@jakez32
I completely agree. I rolled my eyes when Jacob called it a deck builder. The term “cards” can be replaced with any word synonymous with “item” and it would get the point across. I don’t have a clue why they marketed them as cards.
On the contrary,🖕🏼you though because the game plays incredibly.
Any time the word “card” is on a games description I’m automatically out.
@@smellywaffels1967 Anytime it is I'm in, except when it's BS like this game.