10 Imperials Who Fought in the Clone Wars
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2022
- When the Republic collapsed the Grand Army of the Republic became the Imperial Military over night. Today we take a look at Clone Wars Veterans who fought for the Galactic Empire.
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i know this doesn't fit the subject, but imagine what Star Wars would look like if George Lucas didn't think in 1977 that "the Clone Wars" sounded cool
there would either be no prequels, or prequels that would be acid trips compared to what we got.
As a life long fan, until ep 1-3 I wasn't fully sure what Leah said. Clone or colonial wars. I'm happy it was the former and it got explained.
@@Eric-ch6gq I mean it kinda also could be considered colonial wars, considering that human planets were on both sides. Don't know how many aliens of the same species fought against eachother tho.
@@rance2799 it was kind of a colonial issue. The Separatist argument was basically the American colonies arguments when they started the war of independence.
I was just speaking to a misunderstanding I had when I first watched the movie.
Here are some changed facts -
I read in a magazine article that originally the Clones from the Clone Wars were going to be the Army that fought against the Jedi & The Republic. This was back in '86 or '87 when I read the article.
I think George changed it so the Jedi weren't constantly cutting down "people"......but instead then have the Clones turn on them at the end like we saw.
Darth Vader would have fought Obi-Wan on the edge of a volcano until he fell in on the side catching fire as Obi-Wan walked away because the smoke was too thick to see Vader crawl into an empty lava tube for safety.
Han was suppose to die saving everyone at the end of Return (Revenge) of the Jedi.
The Emperor was not going to be a force user. Just an evil corrupt politician. So no rule of two. No Sith. Just light side force users and dark side force users.
Either Vader or Obi-Wan killed Luke's father. Don't know for sure because one was a fake script....
Luke and Leia weren't twins. Luke had a sister, but she was hidden somewhere else. Luke would have turned to the dark side until his sister showed up to save him back to the good side!!!
Oh, and NO Ewoks! It would have been Wookies on the Endor Moon.
This could have been good if fleshed out and tightened up a bit. I am glad what we got though. The Ewoks could have been more vicious so that it showed they could fight the empire. Either way, I grew up with the O.T. and I love it!!!!
Technically, most, if not all of the Inquisitors can also be put on the list since they were all former Jedi who lived during the Clone Wars.
We have no backstory on really any of them
Id imagine not all of them saw action during the cw but your right most of them would certainly be vets
You stole my profile photo :,(
Several of them were Temple Guards not true Jefi.
@@thebigbear4696 The Temple Guards are jedi.
Fun fact
Moff tarkin is why the phoinex squadron escaped in zero hour as his policy of executions to create fear screwed over an otherwise swift victory by thrawn
I thought it was Konstantine he disobeyed Thrawn's orders and broke formation or something. I don't remember correctly from zero hour, sorry
A military loss almost never comes down to one event or non-event. In actuality Thrawn would most win if either of those events happen in isolation but together and the rebellion lives to fight another day. Ezra escapes but Thrawn isn't ordered to capture the leadership. He'd of been able to just batter the base shield down shot the base up for a bit make sure to take out all the starships and send in the group forces to them capture or kill the survivors. Ezra and the Mandarins would have needed to not only take out the second Interdictor but also emergency medical evacuation.
@@Montblanc12 Konstantine was commanding an Interdictor-Class Star Destroyer, which prevented ships from jumping into Hyperspace. When he disobeyed orders and got his ship destroyed, it opened a gap where Ezra’s ship could escape and get reinforcements to destroy the other Interdictor. When both of them were gone, the rebels were free to escape.
Yularen was one of my favorite admirals, shame he was lost alongside the Death Star.
Honestly Yularen’s death is something I could be fine being retconned. I mean, they just have to say something like “He decided to evacuate because he knew the rebels would win” or something
@@Commander_Appo Except how would he know that would happen? The Battle of Yavin was very nearly a complete Imperial victory, if not for the unexpected space wizard farmboy getting a 1/1,000,000 shot on a weak point nobody knew about. It was stupid to put so many senior Imperial officers in one place sure but in any other scenario the Death Star wouldn't have been destroyed.
"What do you want with the Clone Troopers on Tattooine?"
"Tell them to comb the desert!"
10:36 Enemy: "What's warrior without a weapon?"
Darth Vader: "A warrior still!"
i didnt know that the empire had so many clone wars veterans, i thought they mostly didn't last long enough to talk about.
i knew about Tarkin and Vader
Shame that the Clone Wars veterans on the side of the Empire suck at stopping the Rebel Alliance despite their great experience and skills that served them well during the war.
I mean, the Kaminoans/Empire’s first mistake was not seeing how independent Rex was
Weirdly enough, they didn't suck at stopping actual criminals. In the canon Thrawn Trilogy, Yularen had ISB agents infiltrating all sorts of criminal gangs and gathering intel on actual smugglers and pirates. Thrawn and the 7th fleet were very proficient at stopping all acts of piracy, and smuggling.
The Empire didn’t have Jedi…
Well experience in the clone wars doesn’t help a lot because while the droids embodied conventional warfare
The rebellion used completely different tactics that were rarely used against the republic in the clone wars
Clones were never meant to be a police force. They were just a disposable entity to eliminate the Jedi.
Crosshair, Trapper and Barlex was Clone Wars Veterans for The Empire. Disney already Cut Cody who work with the Empire after Order 66, because It can put Cody in danger.
Um, we don’t actually see these two minor clones after the Clone Wars. It can be implied they served the Empire for awhile if they survived the war, but so far besides the clones we see in Revenge of the Sith and the Bad Batch, there have not been many other confirmations.
10:22 Imagine if Thrawn take one look at Anakin and Padme and easily figure out that the two are a married couple with twins.
He pretty much *did* figure out they were married in Thrawn: Alliances (no twins yet at that point though)
he did exactly that bruh
Honorable mention: CC-2237 “Oddball” aka “Davijaan” who was a clone pilot. He is the one who Kenobi hails to form up on himself upon on their approach to Grievous’s ship in the battle over Coruscant. He survived that battle, Umbara and Utapau. Not much is known outside of the fact that his squad and him were folded into the Empire.
I thought Oddball died during the Umbara arc?
@@radyrara Umbara was before Coruscant though. So how would Kenobi hail Oddball if he was dead?
@@metroidhunter965 I haven’t looked it up yet, but I assumed it was a different clone since I believe Oddball died on Umbara.
@@metroidhunter965 I take back my previous thought. I was mixing up Oddball with Hardcase.
Good list but you forgot some important imperial officers like Hurst Romodi - he was drafted into the service of the Republic and fought in many battles in the Clone Wars, he later became one of the first generals of the Imperial army. Participated in the reconquest of the Western Reach and later became Tarkin's assistant and was on the Death Star during the Battle of Scarif and the Battle of Yavin 4.
Don't forget Ysarrd. The guy with the red uniform.
Gilad Pellaeon also served the Republic as an Acclamator Captain during the Clone Wars. Seeing how he's canon again, he should be a fit for the list.
The last wave of Clones that were babies in the test tubes before being relocated to new Imperial facilities were born in 19 BBY meaning that ever Clone generation at that point was getting smaller and smaller due to less and less of them being in service compared to the regular recruits who joined up and replaced most retirees. By 0 BBY the last batch of Clones were 38 in Human years, so when they became ready to fight in 10 BBY they were already a smaller Clone generation and after that the replacement process only sped up with that being the final new batch of Clones to join the ranks of the Imperial military.
IIRC the vast majority of Republic Veterans ended up on the Empire as the Republic became the Empire? It's just that by the time of A New Hope, most have either retired, died, (and a few defected to the Alliance).
Darth Vader "retired" many officers throughout his life. His rage was completely unprofessional and resulted in the loss of many experienced and skilled members of Imperial leadership. May they rest in peace.
Actually a lot of the officers he killed weren’t that useful anyways
Most of those who suffered his wrath were corrupt or incompetent. They either didn't deserve their position or were ineffective at doing their task. Take a look at the difference between how he views General Veers and Admiral Ozzel. He respected Veer's perspective and considered his tactical advice, while he routinely ignored and was annoyed by Ozzel. There were only a few actually useful officers were felled by his hand.
I want to know about the wookies, particularly after the Empire took over
Many were enslaved but how many remained free, how many were killed how many survived after the Battle of Endor and became free and how many survived the Yuhzan Vong war?
Wait so was Yularen always intended to end up becoming the old guy you see in the Death Star? Or was it just a coincidence that he happened to look like him so they decided to just go with it.
He was actually on the Death Star in Episode 4 even before Rebels. His name was listed as one of the Imperial officers there, Dave just fleshed his past during the Clone Wars out.
@@electricfeverx976 I know o was just wondering if that was always the intent.
It's still a shame Yulraen joined the Empire after participating in some many liberations during the Clone Wars .
Yularen actually did good under the Empire. Instead of spreading fear or oppressing the locals, the agents under him helped infiltrate and gather intel on actual criminal gangs and aided in stopping them.
@@electricfeverx976 still joined the wrong side
@@thorpeaaron1110 Empire didn't start the war. Terrorists like Andor did.
Ozzel had to be the worst Republic Officer of all time
In the comic he showed Plo Koon kept getting mad at him for his tactics he was using.
The clones may have seen the new stormies as undisciplined but 1) I wouldn't exactly say Imperial Stormtroopers were what you'd call an undisciplined rabble and 2) It was kind of unfair to compare yourself (if you're a clone trooper) to someone that was probably 3 when you started your training.
They mainly hated the new Stormtroopers for not being as good as them. Cody in Legends laments how the Stormtroopers he had to train in the academy were generally not as efficient as the army of babies bred for war. Most of the clone's dislike was rather unjustified and could be seen as a something more akin to how boomers hate the newer generations for not being like them.
@@electricfeverx976 l see your point but the generations that came after the boomers Could have been just as good as their parents and grandparents. This is more like Khan looking down on Kirk because he was genetically enhanced.
One of my favorite short stories about clones in the empire was the short story about the 2nd invasion of kashyyk that prefaced the strategy guide for Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds. I miss writing like that. Excellent work as always!
It would be kinda cool if they made a live action series or movie that incorporated Vader and palpatine surving for days on that planet vs the resistance and wildlife
The story is already in a novel, it would be unnecessary to do live-action series which could retcon the novel.
Ozell was one of those guys who lurches from on firable offense to another but somehow not only remains employed but gets promoted… until he got a boss who fires people for looking at him the wrong way.
Can you please continue the separatist alliance vs earth series please
Experience is the best teacher.
I thought the trooper who stopped a suspicious looking speeder on Tatooine was called Gary ?
Love your videos.
Yularen is 👌🏻
Good soldiers follow orders. And good soldiers like Vader kept on following them.
Could we have a video like this for individuals with the 'bad guys' who were actually good, wether that's as a double agent, they switch from bad to good or were simply as good/merciful as their job allowed??
If it was for Star Wars there's very few good Imperials because nuance isn't marketable. However the Empire still has some good apples, with the easiest ones being Grand Admiral Thrawn, Captain Pellaeon and Colonel Yularen . A minor character worth noting is Grand Moff Ardus Kaine, the least oppressive moff in the entire Empire who did his best to manage his sector of space without needlessly harrassing the locals.
Title: "Every" Clone wars veteran who fought for the empire.
Video: Does not go through the tens of millions (if not more) sentient beings that served in the GAR and continued serving after the declaration of the Empire.
The title lies.
Will you be making a video on the ten most incompetent rebel officers?
If all sapient lifeforms in the galaxy are wiped out, will it be for the betterment of the galaxy?
11:58
You mean SLOAN figured out his plan
"singlehandedly", yeah, that didn't escape me. i don't need to be a Miraluka to see what you did there.
I wonder how Yularen and Rex would feel if they met each other in the Empire era
Republic Officers Teron and Denimoor continued to serve in the Imperial Navy and were involved in justly and fairly providing assistance to ex-CIS refugees on Arkinnea, ensuring their protection as Imperial citizens.
Vader Retires Ozzel 🤣🤣🤣 I can see it now Vader chokes Ozzel and says "enjoy your retirement Ozzel. 🤣😂😂😂🤣
9:20 “single-handedly” hahahaha
Thanks for the mental imagery of dolphins with Kaminoan necks.
The Clones despise the Stormtroopers how poorly their skills are. If the Empire kept using Clones despite how expense they are. Maybe the Empire has a chance of having a powerful military force.
Although stormtroopers were not as good as clones that doesn’t mean they were crap your average stormtrooper was more effective than your average soldier in the USA or the uk or France just read the novel allegiance and it will reinvigorate my point
A very young Orson Krennic also served during the Clone Wars. I don't know if he saw combat though.
Maybe it's due to me watching a Bioshock video recently, but does anyone else think Yularen looks like Andrew Ryan?
The Star Wars writers screwed up even writing the clone troopers. And they got the error from classic science fiction novels like Dune.
Maturation and aging are not the same process. Maturation, an organism growing from an infant stage to an adult is driven by an increased rate of cell division and hormones. Aging is the process of DNA accumulating errors over time, which impairs the function of cells, tissues, and organs. You realistically could have a child grow to maturity at an accelerated rate, then have them live a normal human lifespan. They'd still get old before normal humans because, but only about a decade before.
Here’s a true list of heroes
Left out Captain Needa.
The actual video starts at 3:31.
interesting
It seems most of the competent veterans joined the rebellions and the emotes was left with the idiots.
The only real exception was admiral Yularen but for some reason he decided to leave the navy and become a high ranking colonel in the ISB which seems like a complete waste of his talents.
The empire had no issue dealing with its internal security but after Yavin and open galactic war declared the empire would struggle militarily.
Instead of wasting his strategic acumen playing secret police man Yularen could have stayed in the navy and been promoted to a grand Adlerian or a moff. In such a high position Yularen could have used his experiences from the clone wars to cold the Navy doctrine rather than relying on the Tarkin Doctrine.
3:49 Saw? I don’t think he did
My allegiance is to my new empire that i have brought peace freedom justice and security to
Experience outranks everything.
Old clones don't die, they just fade away...
"Officially, there never was a clone rebellion on Kamino. Unofficially, approximately twenty years after we were created, a special detachment of the Imperial 501st Legion was dispatched to Kamino, with orders to eradicate an army of clones that had been bred to take arms against the Empire. Our mission commander, an expert on the inner workings of Kamino, was a young bounty hunter named Boba Fett."
"The bounty hunter left after the battle was over. He said something about tracking down a smuggler on Tatooine. After the Kamino uprising, the Emperor decided that an army of genetically identical soldiers was too susceptible to corruption. Future troopers would be cloned from a variety of templates. Though the 501st itself remained pure, the rest of the Imperial Army gradually became more and more diverse. We never really got used to the new guys."
Kendell Ozzel... Is it STILL a mystery if he was "incompetent" in the incident Vader offed him OR if he was a secret Rebel sympathizer/etc for reasons??
No he was just incompetent, he wasn't a secret Rebel, he just assumed they didn't have long range scanners and not be able to detect their arrival.
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You forgot to mention Darth JarJar..
I never got, why Anakin wasn't blasted when Order 66 took place. He was still, as far as clones were concerned, a Jedi, was he not?
his clones did not receive "execute order 66" transmission ;)
@@MehrumesDagon Oh, they weren't on the mailing list. Very handy, really. 👍
He was always the exception, when Palpatine activated the order, Anakin was excluded from being a Jedi.
Maybe the order only applied to Jedi Masters ;-)
What about Rae Sloane???
Dang lol
Admiral "Douche N" Ozzel
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Emprie????
Check the spelling for Empire on the thumbnail!
Finally someone talking about how Vader accidentally destroyed a planet
Still wish Disney would acknowledge Cody
Disney did not partcipiated that Cody work with the empire, Disney was only keep Cody as a Hero, Not a Villain. We will see that Cody remove his chip in the trailer in D23.
He's coming back in the Bad Batch Season 2
Dang he just forgot about Cody
first!
Second
for what?