What I found works pretty well if you do it consistently is don't walk your dog in a park when you 1st get out of your car. Find the closest bench and sit there for 10 to 15 minutes. When other dogs and people walk by, try to restrain your dog from going towards them. Let other dog walkers be aware that your dog is in training, And to please keep walking. Let them sniff the ground sniff the air And get that out of their system. After a while the dog will realize that they're going on a walk and everything else will be a minor distraction.
Id agree with this! I’d noticed my dog is too excited initially on walks (he loves every dog and person) but if we just chill and sit for 10-15 minutes first he’s a lot better. He gets time to absorb his environment a bit more which really helps rather than overwhelming him all at once
I think socialization should be about teaching your dog how to act around other animals and people, not being playmates with every other dog out there.
Chrystal Frost I’ve noticed, just like humans, my dogs don’t like fake pretentious people & when they don’t like those people.. they don’t like their dogs. We learn a lot from our pets
Eva Smiljanić exactly. My dog is more into the best why I can explain it is-she’s a dog therapist. If a dog has issues, she goes WAY ABOVE any animal ive seen to help that animal feel more comfortable. But when she’s on a walk and 2 or more dogs crowd over her, she will lunge. She won’t bite. But she’s all about rolling the other dog. Obviously a dominance issue instigated by feeling out of control. Because she is 90lbs, it does scare people. And those people make it harder to find owners that understand that. My dog is a shy, fearful dog. She doesn’t want to bite or attack. Bit the moment a happy go lucky dog owner stumbled upon her path.. at that moment. It truly is up to the other owner. I already know how to handle my dog. Do they know how to handle their 2-5 dogs? Seriously doubt it. Unless they’re morons. For some reason every now and again GOD makes sure morons get DOGs that know better then their owners .
Oh man, when I tell people they can't touch my dog, they act all offended. Then say something like "but you shouldn't bring your dog out if we can't touch her" My dog is NOT public property. And while I expect her to behave around other people, the truth is that she does NOT like people. And I'm not going to force her to interact with people she doesn't like. I'm going to let her if she's behaving because I want her to learn that she can trust people, but I'm not going to force her.
You as the owner know what your dog is like in certain situations and telling people that they should not touch your dog is to protect them, yet it is somehow rude on your part? Like, excuse me? I’m trying to look out for your safety as well as my dog’s comfort.
I have the same issue. Except it’s with the kids around my apartment- can’t even let my dog out on the balcony because they throw choking hazard toys to her and scream at her that she’s a bad dog all while trying to pet her. I’m not nice about it anymore. Especially when I’ve never seen a damn parent around once.
Same here. I know my dog won't bite or attack, but she's shy and gets nervous around strangers if they keep trying to touch her after she signals that she's not comfortable. Then she'll start barking at the person because all other signals didn't work and then they go "oh why is she barking?" why do you think lmao
Yes poor dogs don’t get to claim personal space without a confrontation. My dog just doesn’t like other dogs. He tolerates them fine until they get in his face. Owners just assume because he is out and about with me that their off leash dog can just approach mine without asking me. Irritating.
That's such an important realization, Mntngirl! All do owners need to understand this. Not only for control and training, but also for dog safety! Thanks for watching! ~Ken
Sudarsh Sharma Unfortunately many people who have or have had balanced dogs just think they are all that way. They just don’t realize. I always just put my arm out now as soon as they start to approach. That seems to stop people and dogs as well actually. I then explain things to the people. This seems to work well for me.
Miles the Pit Bull I always put my arm straight out toward dogs that approach off leash and tell them no go on and I’m amazed that it always works. Always. My dog knows that I will advocate for him now and doesn’t get as tense. You could try that.
Do a lot of research. Your stress will be picked up by your pup! Try to go into it with a sense of fun. Being alert and aware is positive. Stress, not good for your your dog. Good luck and have fun!
Good advice. I trained Guide Dogs and our own dogs before dog parks existed and they were all perfectly socialized. I find that a lot of people at dog parks are totally clueless about dog body language and dog behavior.
This is such an eye-opening video, thank you for being honest about socialization and making it known that it’s okay to not introduce your dog to every dog that walks past. The biggest struggle is telling other dog owners that I don’t want my dog to meet theirs on leash, and then getting backlash about how I should be socializing her more. This was very helpful!!
I have social anxiety and have felt really bad about not always letting my dog greet other dogs we meet on our walks so this actually made me feel pretty good lol (my dog isn't even that interested in other dogs I've just thought that it's a thing I SHOULD do)
You guys make so much sense. Too many people think that they have to let their dog greet every dog they see. Ive experienced it in PetSmart and the Vet’s office. NO I don’t want your damn dog coming up to say hello.
This is one of the most useful videos I have watched!!! I enjoy your training videos as I am in training myself while training a beautiful Chocolate English Lab, who just turned a year old and has so much energy. The statement you made about "why we get our dog", not to play with the neighbors dog or become exhausted at dog park....was so powerful to me and has me feeling really good about where I need to go.
This is how I feel about socialization and this is why I don't take my dog to dog parks. But, learning from you on the best ways to meet other dogs. Thanks!
My kids' pediatrician and I were just talking about this!!!! We both have dogs that do not want to be with other dogs and don't want other dogs coming up to them all the time. This is good advice! My dog has had so many hyper dogs run at her when I have walked her, she now hates it. She has been very good about it, lucky for me, but it is a pain that so many just let their dog come straight at yours when yours can't get away.
Are you working with your puppy on socialization? Before you ever allow your dog to greet another dog you need to make sure you've got a reliable response to name. Here's a link to a video where we teach a puppy to have a reliable response to their name: ruclips.net/video/TsVz8LbjwEA/видео.html Happy Training! ~Ken
I have a 10 week old GSP Dog and I’m kind of using the technique for her with my cats. They have a run in the front yard and any time she jumps up against it I put her down and reward her, now she runs up and most the time will sit in front of the run instead of jumping on the netting. I’ll sit there and train her too so I’m hoping that when she’s ready to be introduced to them face to face she will be able to do so in a calmer manner.
This is truly one of the best videos I’ve watched - well spoken, straight to the point (without any annoying fluff) and very clear instruction. Thank you :)
As someone who frequented dog parks, I really appreciated how my little girl listened. Yes, she played and explored, but I always had complete control of her with vocal commands that a lot of pet parents I've known are severely lacking
Thank you for putting these videos on RUclips, I am getting a puppy soon and I have been watching a lot of your videos. I feel prepared to welcome my new puppy into our home with confidence, because of the information you have given me. Thank you
I socialized my dog by taking him to the horse yard. He saw cows, horses, other dogs, sheep, cats, and small children. This was all supervised but he became a well balanced and happy dog. He still doesn't like that one spaniel and the cockerpoo who lives next door but that's ok. both of us owners know that they don't get on so we just keep them away from each other
Socialization should not happen at the dog park. I basically did little training drills with my puppy in as many different places as possible. By the playground, at the boardwalk, by construction work, at the park where he CNA see the dogs at the dog park and get positive reinforcement for it. My dog first went to the dog park at 5 months old. He knew his recall 100% even in distractions. I knew how to read him and other dogs. And my favorite line? Keep it short but sweet. I always go to the the park for 10-15 min. And then I leave. I go in the morning without too many and leave while it's still positive. Now at 3 years old we still go to the same park at the same time. And stay for 1 hour. He plays with the dogs he's friends with and is very well balanced and all around amazing dog.
less than 2 minutes into this video and you are spot on. my other annoyance is every person who comes over wants to pat my dog. not all dogs appreciate others on their territory.
And a lot of people don’t even let the dog sniff first or anything. They just come in from above, towering over a dog and reaching towards their face. I was always taught to let the dogs sniff you and come to you first when you’re first meeting. Let them initiate the contact and quite frankly if they don’t want to make contact they shouldnt have to. And as an intelligent human being we should respect that
The thing abt breaking a dog confidence by taking the to the park and letting them get steam rolled by other dogs really hits home for me right now. I'm a dog sitter, and the owner invited me to join her and her 4 month old pup at the dog park. We get there and she just let's her pup loose and ignores it, it got scared being surrounded by tons big dogs it tried to run and she was just ignoring it all these big dogs were just trying to play but her pup was terrified and it ended up biting one of them. It was so frustrating seeing her lack of concern for her dogs comfort.
I REALLY wish there were more resources like this. I am a dog walker and live/work in a city. So many owners here think they're doing the right thing by taking their shiny new puppy to the local park and encouraging their pup to meet everyone, play with all the dogs, etc. So now, nearly all of the dogs I walk are absolutely dog-obsessed. On walks, they pull to get to other dogs and have low engagement with the person walking them, because they've been taught that playing with other dogs is the purpose of walks. With my own dog, I plan to teach him to be calm and chill around other dogs - to basically pay very little attention to them. Then to have a small number of carefully chosen doggy playmates to teach him appropriate behaviour.
The most difficult but best command my dog was ever trained with was “watch me” which is a command for my dog to ignore other pedestrians or dogs and pay attention to me. It meant having to stop our walk any time she got distracted and rewarding keeping her eyes on us. It involved a lot of stop and go for a looong time but it has helped lower on leash aggression incredibly
That's a good idea I always used the word ignore. Like when I'm walking my new puppy and teaching him, stay a dog or some people are in their yard being loud or whatever if he's getting a little anxious and looking around and not paying attention, I use ignore. ignore him you know. And then like if he wants to try to pick something up but I don't want him to have you know I use the word yucky. .. he's going to be my service dog so I'll use normal language for that. but will also have other commands for when I don't want people to be able to tell him certain things in another language.
delighted to discover your videos. you are speaking my language, especially about dog owners being conscious about the fact that dogs differ in how they are in their 'doginalities', in how they are about being approached by another dog etc.. In my experience it can often be the dog owners that are the bane of my life , as well as off-leash dogs whose owners claim that their dog is friendly, and yet may cause difficulty because they are interacting with my on-leash dog. All my efforts to explain that it's not about their dog so much as the potential reaction of my dog on-lead that might be the issue, leaves me in despair. UGH!!!!!! I take evasive action now when I see the potential for such difficulties and have long since stopped going to dog parks; I see them as a hotbed of potential and actual hazards.
@Daisy Lane Same. My dog was ruined by dog parks, and the people near where I live allow their dogs to claim the park and guard it, provoking every dog that passes by. It's insanity just trying to get on our way, especially with a dog who already has a long list of issues to sort out.
@Daisy Lane I only play with my dogs at the dog park if no one else is there. I don't have a yard. I walk them separately 2 times a day, and once late at night together. It's a lot of walking. I had to ask the neighbors quite pointedly to keep their dogs away from mine. I have had them 14 months and 8 months, both big and grew up together.
@Daisy Lane Keep working on loose leash mode. Its been a year, my girl is learning it. I blame myself. I didn't get her to listen in the beginning, last winter. Sometimes it takes a halti, alot of work, and treats, which made her fat. Now I use dried roast beef or duck treats, no additives. Big boy is still lunging at other dogs, but had a nice interaction with small dogs that came up to him. I have to be real careful.
This is a good thing to think about. We started taking our dog to doggy daycare and then our dog who had always behaved so well with other dogs now showed signs of aggression/over excitement when meeting new dogs.
I am beginning to not like dog parks. Not because of the park it self but the people at the park!!! I dog sit and bring the dogs to park to get rid of their energy. They obey me. but when other dogs and people are around they think that it`s a free for all and they stop listening. Then other people have to pipe in and say let your dogs enjoy. Well it is hard when the other owners do not have their dogs under control and think that I am being to demanding when I do not want my dogs to be playing with their dogs. it is the same concept as a childrens park, if little sally does not play with little Jonny because he hit and I tell my child to stay away... it`s my choice. they get offended or something. There are rules at the park it is not a free for all. I always have my dogs in sight, but other owners dogs are running wild and do not call them to come, then my dog does not want to come when called.
That's a good point, HerBeauty'sInsideOut! People need to be a lot more aware of their dogs in these situations. Unfortunately we're a long way from that point. Hopefully this video helps dog owners to understand! Thanks for watching! ~Ken
Dog parks are unfortunately pretty unsafe environments. Lots of inappropriate dogs (whether fearful or too bossy, sometimes straight up aggressive), inappropriate play (usually between conflicting play style types), and owners who do not know how to handle their dogs. I know it sounds condescending but after working hands on with dogs (career) for over 10 years, you see plenty of owners who are not able to a) read their dog’s social cues and/or b) take appropriate action if something is happening. You also have the people who think their dog can “do no harm” which is extremely dangerous.
HerBeauty`sInsideOut I agree with your statement And I’ll add in.. not every head in the clouds dog owner keeps up with their shots. Dog parks are becoming a contagious area to bring your dog
Totally agree. My mom was trying to keep this very excitable (humping) young unaltered male dog away from her (neutered) dog who was not liking the attention. Finally the owner of that dog got off her phone...to yell at my mom for shoeing her dog away! She wasn't paying any attention to her dog. Not enough to notice that my mom's dog was starting to get snippy or enough to realize that her dog was trying to hump everything and generally starting arguments with other dogs. I have also seen so many dog fights broken up by strangers because the dogs' owners are no where to be found.
I’m not going to take my dog to a dog park. Everything you told us is exactly how I feel. Before watching your video I felt like perhaps I shouldn’t be so overly picky. Now I feel validated. I’m not being overly picky- I’m being a responsible pet owner.
Trainer said I needed to take my dog to doggy daycare. Worse experience ever!!! They said she passed the “temperament test” and allowed her in group play. When I picked her up she was soaking wet. Non of the other dogs were wet and they couldn’t give me a valid explanation. No way to dry her off and it was 28° freezing outside. Never again! I just want to walk her without going nuts when she sees another dog. She can walk on lead at home but not when I take her out somewhere but especially on trail when she sees another dog. Certain I need a more experienced trainer.
What I really hear when I listen to your words and what I also recognise when I‘m out with my dogs is that the real problem is always the handler! We don‘t have to build dog schools - we have to build schools for the human part of the leash!
Great video! I wish more people understood that socialization does not mean free, rambunctious play with dogs. My favourite kind of socializing my puppies is being around dogs WITHOUT interaction. My preference is for a dog that ignores other dogs, I’m way more fun anyway. ;)
Thank you! I have my 2nd Akita that I got last November at 33 months old. She is naturally an Alpha and I do not let her meet every dog she sees. Other dogs bark at her but she has the quiet confidence of an Akita. Good to see that I have the common sense to do some of the things you suggest in your excellent video already. SUBSCRIBED
Love the detail! Details are so important and all too often advice that passes from owner to owner of any pet gets oversimplified. It isn't a black and white "interact with everyone/nobody." I love that these are steps, in order, and each has its place.
We just signed our pup up for a leash manners & polite greetings class with a local dog training place! I LOVE their setup on training and boarding. They very much believe in good socializing like you were talking about (small group play. Matched up with another dog of the same personality). We had a trainer come to our house to help but he didn’t unfortunately. And I think classes are the way to go for my pup! I love watching you videos. They always make such amazing points!
knowing your dog's personality is KEY. and thank you about not all interactions have to happen it can be just letting your dog be calm as other dogs pass. dogs are different just like ppl. some ppl liek to be downtown in the city at night during NYE. some don't. some dogs like daycare with lots of dogs some despise it. my dog does better 1 0n 1 on a trail meeting dogs vs a daycare where it's all out choas. i use to work at a daycare and there are pooches who "tolerate" being there but i think that's wrong for the owner do drop them there if they really don't want to be there. also lots of owners should take all this info in seriously then just letting there dog run lose or not know there dogs personlaity. thanks
This makes so much sense as to why I’ve seen dogs get aggressive with a dog I know who pulls on his leash all the time. I had no idea that it can look like aggression to other dogs
So far, I love your training and informational videos. Inline with how I believe also. My Marley Girl started to develop severe anxiety and regular panic attacks around 1.5 years old. I stopped taking her to the dog park because as you know, as soon as you walk in, mobs of dogs rush up and surround your dog and it is quite frightening and for a pup with anxiety and she feels like she can't escape, fights break out. For the longest time I felt like I was denying her dog to dog interactions until I had to hire a behaviorist to work with marley and I. She said that most dogs are not dog park dogs. Most dogs don't desire to spend time with other dogs and really get joy and satisfaction from interacting and playing with their human. Marley and I are always doing things together just her and I, and truth be told, she is happier to play and interact with me than she ever was at the dog park. She is my world and I am hers. By the way, she loves to play with other people when they come to my house. She was well socialized growing up. Just like humans are different from each other, so are doggies.
Same her Belina was a shelter pup but cannot properly greet other dogs so its always collar +secure harness she is I'm protect mode if she sees any other dog 🤦♀️
Great message and fantastic advice. I’ve been unable to walk my newly adopted dog in my neighbourhood because first, he’s not ready yet, but even when he is, there is this weird propensity for nearly every person walking a dog to think the dogs should meet - this happens with my other dog I’ve had for many years. Do they not realize that on leash is the absolute WORST way to introduce dogs? I’ve given up caring if other humans think I’m a rude cow, I have to advocate for my dogs. I avoid dog parks since I can’t tell if they are filled with clueless owners - it was heartening to hear that my dogs’ relationship with me is not only enough, but is paramount.
I don't go to dog parks never will, what I do instead is set up doggie play dates with people that I know really well and know their dogs really well. We do it at least once a week, other than that my dog is training with me or going on adventures with me. Great video because dog parks these days are out of control, most people do not have control their dogs.
Thank you so much for re enforcing my behavior is NOT rude, greedy, selfish if I don’t take my dog to spend time with other dogs. I don’t have to feel like people think I’m a snob when out and about and steer clear of greeting by stopping. Or if I move further away of path from their “friendly” excited dog.
Here my take on it; too many dogs get pit down because of agression towards people or dogs. Yeah, a lot of people just consider it as "my dog doesnt like strangers" but you can't ignore the fact that an uneducated owner (which is about 80% of them) will get rid of or kill their dog for "not liking" strange people or dogs. Socialize them young, socialize them right, and at the very least make sure that if you are accepting of a dogs aggressive behavior that you DONT GET RID OF THAT DOG!! most people aren't accepting. Edit: I was re-reading my comment and just wanted to make it clear that I agree with everything you said. The only reason I said what I did was because my job is to go around the country to try and rehabilitate dogs on "death row" (due to euthanized) and so often the aggression I'm trying to fix is because somebody didn't socialize their dog well.
This is such great advice! One thing maybe overlooked, small but can be important as it relates to leashed dogs is a leashed dog is more likely to be aggressive due in many cases to the owners insecurity and their pulling back on or tightening the leash when approaching another dog or a person, this sends a signal down the leash that something is not right and the dog needs to be on guard for their own safety or that of their owner. As an owner of "serious" dogs Bouviers 100lbs and Black Russian Terriers 140 lbs all guard and show dogs (all alpha personalities) not either or but both I have a lot of experience in training and socializing these dogs and can say from experience pay attention to what these people are saying they 100% correct. Ideally you will start with your dog as a puppy one of the best places is puppy obedience classes, continuing obedience classes and careful socialization as outlined here by these good trainers. As your dog gets older and you get more experience with your dog you will get much better at when and where to allow meetings with new dogs. One last thing always introduce your dog in as neutral an area as possible that way neither has little to defend other than the owner at least at first sight and if the owner acts calm and confident the dog will pick up on this and in almost all cases react appropriately. That's not to say there are not some dogs to be concerned about but if you follow what these people have to say you and your dog will be much better off.
I have a American Pitbull Terrier who is 63 lb and has always been good with other dogs until I move to a new area. We were at a unofficial designated dog park with a playground my son could play it. There were lots of people walking their dogs on a leash. There is a leash law in New York state. Unless you are in a designated and official and a member of a particular dog park and are allowed to let your dog off the leash. However there were many people that were showing up to the dog park with their dogs off the leash. My dog seem to have no problem whenever a dog was on a leash but three dogs, all different types ran up to me and my dog while my kid was on the playground luckily. They ran over without a leash and there was no owner in sight. It wasn't until they got right in my dog's face that my dog got insanely nervous and begin shaking and started snapping at the three dogs. I believe she was not only acting and protective behavior of herself but also myself. It was truly tragic to see my dog in that Shakin state. She is such a good dog and is so wonderful with people and especially children. She has always been good with other dogs and usually ends up being the more submissive one. However, after this episode at the park, there was another dog before we even left the park that ran over to her and she began being aggressive again. Since then, she is now aggressive anytime she sees another dog she becomes very hard to handle physically for me. It breaks my heart because people are now looking at me like my dog has issues and I should be ashamed of myself for having her anywhere out in public. This idea that people should just let their dogs off the leash is now making it dangerous not only for myself and my dog but also for my six year old. What are the dogs are okay with other dogs but they go after children? I agree with everything you're saying in your video. And we need to remind the dogs that they are to remain domestic if they are to remain our pets and be trusted. Because people have allowed their dogs to run free, they are not teaching them proper behavior. The owner of eventually showed up after it was clear it these dogs upset my dog.... however she was not aggressive to intervene and casually walked behind me towards the woods and casually and very quietly called her dogs as if it was unimportant. Unfortunately, it would be my pitbull who would get blamed for eating other dogs in the situation even though we are following all the laws possible to keep ourselves, the dog, and other people safe.
My dog has no desire to interact with other dogs. He isn't aggressive at all. He just wants to pretend other dogs don't exist. He just want's them to stay away. He is 12 now. He was fine with his older brother, but that's it.
Lol my dog has never EVER liked other dogs. Tolerates them, but doesn't want to sniff them or play with them or anything. Many years ago she went to boarding and made a friend. They were attached at the hip and I think that is the only dog she has ever liked hahah
lol, I'm watching it AFTER I made a rare visit to a dog park. Nope, not going back (as usual). Those places are chaos. I've been to dog shows, agility events, and some field trials + field trial training days. There were dozens and dozens of dogs, but everything was civilized + orderly. My few public dog park visits (mostly just to observe) have had me realizing there's no way I want my dogs in there. As I said, they're too chaotic with a few too many inexperienced people allowing aggressive dogs too much freedom. Dog parks are great for urban dwellers that need a place to let their dog run free off-leash. In my case, I live in my own dog park. I'm on several acres all fenced for dogs. For socialization, I'm sticking to pre-screened dogs that have sociable neutral temperaments.
So kind of you to respond to me! I have so much to learn, and you guys are just so helpful. I, too, have had the unfortunate experience of dogs who are just too aggressive, and the dog parents think it's cute, or they are busy yakking with other dog owners. Even my dog walker always brought my dog to the dog park. I love it when you say I didn't buy a dog so the other guy's dog has someone to play with!
This is the best video regarding socialisation I have watched. I live in a city with lots of dog owners of small dogs who allow their dogs to run crazy at the parks, engaging with any dog they see. We have a very friendly 30kg bulldog mix, and she has a handful of friends (a young cane corso, a Boxer, a few labradors) who we can trust but I would never let her run riot!
My main concern at dog parks are the people around here that bring dog aggressive dogs out and get offended when I yell at their dog because he/she went for my puppies throat... I litterally had this happen day before yesterday, I hate having to be the monkey in the middle but I'm not going to let my puppy get bit by asshole no.1s pitbull mix (nothing wrong with bully breeds, my puppy is an amstaff mix but shelters and rescues here often lie to get adoptions and most ppl around here can't handle them properly)
I LOVE THIS VIDEO. I have a dog that has a huge fear of dogs, he has been attacked before and can be reactive. We take the correct precautions, muzzle, he wears a coat that says space needed and I wear one as well and he is leashes. But people let there dogs off lead with zero recall and it puts everyone at risk. And once my dog has stacked all that anxiety I then can't walk him for the remainder of the day because even just a person could set him off. The annoying thing is, my dog can meet and be fine with dogs, once there is a slow and careful introduction, but you can never get to that point. I live that the pandemic has got more people loving dogs, but it feels like no one has taken to time to learn dog walking manners.
Great conversation! My year old border collie has lots of playdates and walks with known doggies. I will make it a point to use the distraction of the dogs to work on her recall and obedience skills tomorrow. Side note: My pup looks and acts so much like your smooth coat. Hugs from Pennsylvania!
Thank you, Caren! I think your Border Collie will really be able to learn a lot by using those other dogs as a distraction during training. Have fun with it! Happy Training ~Ken
I have a 1 1/2 year old husky and I always keep her on a leash when we walk. I am so over with these owners who need to let their dogs approach her whether on leash or off. I'm still training her and more than once has an owner insist their dogs are "friendly" only to have their dogs snap at her. Now she is beginning to snarl and growl back at them when they get aggressive. We were actually hunted down one morning by a neighborhood dog who had gotten away from her owner. She came up from behind and immediately jumped my dog and we were several blocks away from her home. Now I just make a point to avoid them on our walks. We have a lot of winter visitors this time of year and we do not know their dogs and they do not keep their dogs leashed because they are "on vacation". Thank you for this video. I wish I could print it and hand out copies😄
Hi there, Sean! I love the fact that you're putting in so much effort to be prepared for your new puppy. It's going to be work. But that work can be LOTS of fun if you are prepared for it. You'll have to keep me posted on your progress in a comment string here. Enjoy the process, Happy Training! ~Ken
Good luck in your (canine) college finals !!!!.........all the study will be well worth the effort & no doubt it will be straight As all the way. Lucky puppy to have such a considerate companion with whom to live and explore the world.
Yes! People think I am weird when I don’t introduce my dog in leash at first to other dogs to say “hi”. I usually will do a walk with another dog that my dog doesn’t know well. No confrontation just existing around other. Not giving each other any attention. Or greet in a wide neutral calm space. Just what worked for me😮
Dogs are not humans, their psych is wired differently Socialization is a stimulant that activates their instincts, their instinct is to pack up. Socialization with every type of dog puppy, aggressive, or old or even timing, as long as you are training correctly and in control when socializing your dog, these factors will not Matter. You should socialize your dog for every situation Some good points In this video, but one thing to remember dogs are not human.
Victoria Duvall yes! Dogs aren’t human! They actually have better instincts. I socialized my dog the way society told me to. She’s still a bitch and will always dominate the submissive or running/focused on a ball dog. I’ve learned to read my dogs and get them out of all uncomfortable situations as soon as I notice they’re not happy about the situation they’re in. I’ve been training this one girl for over 3 years. Thank God she is into treats. Because she’s fear reactive. And that’s the most unpredictable
@@animalobsessed1 hey I think dogs have a natural instinct to form packs. I've seen dogs do that in dog parks. Unknown un-related dogs after few mins of bonding and playing, start acting similarly. They will even gang up on a diffident shy dog even if their handlers haven't witnessed bullying behaviors in them prior to that day.
@@animalobsessed1 I live in India and face the menace of feral stray dogs almost daily. I've never seen just 1 stray dog alone, they mostly are in groups. If there is just 1 dog, it'll will be very scared and shy and mostly submissive to humans. But if there are more, they might be all submissive in the morning and by night fall when streets are devoid of humans, they show lot more dominant and aggressive behaviors towards people.
@@animalobsessed1 WTH did you get that information from? Dogs don't form packs ....🤣🤣🤣🤣 . Next your going to tell us their Wolf Ancestors don't live in packs You really need to educate yourself on canine behavior .
I'm taking my 3 dogs to the beach when there's no other dogs around. My older dog is 12 and I never had any problems with her coming back or socializing. The male dog is 5 and he can be more territorial but only on the leash as you mentioned but he's even quicker to come when I call. My newst puppie she's a 3 months old and she's coming when I call at the beach. Everytime I see other dogs coming unless I know the dogs I call mine back for now to train the puppie to come. This video was super helpful because I now know I'm doing the right thing. Thank you so much. My older dogs are also showing the puppie how to act and she's quick to follow them.
I only bring my dogs to the dog park when it’s empty so they can run around together but end up leaving when other dogs come in. I’m not intentionally trying to shut my dogs away from other dogs but an unknown dog & dog owner could bring disaster. I do bring them to doggie daycare but that’s only because I work there part time and know the personality of my dogs and the dogs they are interacting with.
Such a good video! I have a 1 year old English mastiff. When he was 9 months someone I saw while walking him had a neopolitan mastiff a month younger and asked if they could meet. I said sure (thinking nothing of it) they were both on leashes but this other dog was soooo hyper my dog became instantly uneasy and wanted nothing to do with him so I had to let the guy know it wasn't a good idea. He kept saying oh they're both puppies its okay. I just apologized and walked away. Never want my dog to get agressive because he's uncomfortable. This guy had no control over his dog whatsoever
My dog was raised in a dogtown where most people had dogs and evening walks were a social thing. He makes the decisions about who and what to interact with. If I think there are risks I say "No" and we walk on by. He's 10 years old now and we live in a different state but he still wants to meet most people or dogs. There aren't as many dog parks but all the old rules still apply on leash or off leash. He knows about horses, donkeys, and cattle but will go ballistic over raccoons that try to set up house in the bamboo, because of what they've done to our Koi. Yes, he's a smart dog, but he got his puppy training in the first month we got him from the breeder. And that's made all the difference in the world.
I didn't have the chance to socialize my dog with other dogs when he was younger, he's almost 3 years old now. I'm trying to slowly and calmly introduce him to other neighbor dogs and especially my family's new puppies. Your video really helps me confirm that the things I've already been doing, the calm obedience training and the emphasis on listening to me over playing is the right way to go. But I have been having him on a leash and harness for most of the interactions because I'm concerned that he'd be too rough on the pups. I'll try to find a different method of safe interactions for both dogs without a leash.
And this is why its so important early on to teach people not just dogs, about loose leash walking. I train my dogs early on that I don't want any tension on the leash. They get rewarded for loose leash walking, because when the leash is loose, we are both in a relaxed state of mind - for the most part. Also I believe a dog shouldn't be going to an off leash or a dog park without being trained in recall. Our pack no matter what they are doing comes back, is always in our line of sight, always able to do their own thing. IN fact its weird to watch us at the dog park be the only one who's dog is actually walking together with us.
The real problem is people with dogs on a leash that make a straight beeline towards you even if you start walking away, because your dog is leashed. I still don't know how to deal with those people
Agreed. Especially today SO many owners paying more attention to their phones than their dogs at park! My spayed female kept getting aggressively mounted by negligent owners. I had to stop going to dog park, unpleasant to say the least. They offered NO guidance to their dogs.
Thank you for this video. It's an important message to get out to everyone, but especially to first time dog owners. My dog was his previous owner's first dog and he did the very mistakes you mention. He had the puppy greet everyone on the street and took him to the dog park for hours daily, apparently thinking that it was good for a shy, uncertain dog to learn some rough play. All with the good intention of socializing, but not realizing that quantity doesn't mean quality. When the dog came to me at 18 months for problem behavior, he had learned to attack so that other dogs and people would leave him alone. I had to teach him that I'm not going to force him into social situations, so he doesn't have to drive everyone away. I've gotten my fair share of panic bites getting this message through and finally, after 3 years, we are starting to be neutral passing strange dogs on the streets. Dog parks are still too much for him - and might be for the rest of his life, but fortunately he's been able to have some dog friends after several hours of patient introductions to have the rules clear for both dogs. Oh, this puppy was also rescued from streets at 3 months old, so he had already had a bad start for socializing, and unfortunately the previous owners good intentions just multiplied the issues that the dog had.
BsLizardette so common. I think an important point you have is it took 3 years to correct. I expect too much sometimes from my dog. With difficult dogs some things take years to perfect; be it from incorrect training or previous emotional traumas. I find that a lot of behaviors I took for granted in my previous easier to train dogs take longer to achieve in my challenge child.
I live next to a dog friendly,leash free beach . What amazes me is how many people I've spoken to who will not let their dog walk with them without a leash because "the dog will take off and they would never catch them again!" I have told many about this channel as I've found that there is something for everyone here and if you have a specific question it will be answered. Thanks so much for your time and dedication to making life with our dogs better for all of us .🏆🤗
I go to dog parks to see other dogs but I leave my dog home. Even if there was only one other dog there I would have no control over the other owner who has no control over their dog. For really high energy dogs like Border Collies, I can see the need to take them somewhere to exercise but a dog park isn’t it.
DovidM Years ago I used to take my last dog (RR) to off leash parks but this stopped when she was viciously attacked by 2 German Shepherds the owner had no control over. I never took her again. I now have a 6 month old RR and also will never take her anywhere other dogs are off leash as I am too terrified. BTW my pup was recently attacked on the street by an off leash Staffie but luckily no blood letting. Stupid owners.
Jenece Oktaba Wow that’s horrible. I was supposed to get a puppy and hope I still am and I plan on introducing him to a family members pitbull terrier and beagle mix. They’re such sweethearts and love to play and are not aggressive so I hope that means thy won’t be aggressive or anxious when I introduce them to my first puppy. (I have been watching so many videos and I still know I won’t be ready for such a bundle of joy) Also I am very sorry what happened, unfortunately it’s usually the owners fault and hopefully people can learn to keep their dogs on leash, no matter how much you’ve trained them.
Yeah my dog was attacked when she was a puppy and she can only be around elderly dogs or dogs with massive respect that do not get in her face and give her her distance. Totally makes 100% sense your whole video.
As long as my dogs are ok with each other im happy.. Some dogs have no interest in making friends with the other dogs in the neighborhood and as u said, they are OUR dog's, not other people's puppy play date..
This is great. We just got a puppy but have fostered dogs for years. We live in a city and we always tell me people that our dogs don't meet dogs on leash. I always thought I was being paranoid but it never felt right to have to restricted/restrained stranger dogs meet one another on the street. Thanks for this. We also need work more on recall!!! Will start that tomorrow.
I got "talked to" by the trainer I was going to because I wouldn't take my dog to their daycare and have my dog be more socialized. Her train of thought was your dog should meet 10 strange dogs a day every day! Heck I don't see 10 dogs a day on a walk.
One of the most important lessons my German Shepherd learned was that not all dogs want to play with her and that she did not have to play with others. If a dog showed any sign of not wanting her around I would always call her away and I would insist on that. In the same breath if she showed she didn't want to play I would intervene and be a buffer. My mix breeds most important lesson was learning many dogs find her excited behaviour as being just too much. She learned to recognise standoffish behaviour and change her own body language and allow the other dog to come to them. She also learned that if I called, ignoring me meant game over whereas coming when called means treats, toys, love and attention. So her recall is 100%. She also. Learned that if she felt unsafe she can always come to me and I'll act as a barrier to whatever she's concerned about.
Our 4 month old rescue dog has never struggled with socialization. Always interacted fine with pretty much any other dog from the first try, probably because we're lucky to leave by a park with lots of other puppies. We do however make sure she doesn't run towards the other dogs and dont force her way into interacting with dogs that dont want to or can't. I did worry about her getting "oversocial" at a point, but by making sure she doesn't get to play with every dog, she did restrain herself a little more.
My boyfriend and I are getting a Staffordshire Bull terrier next year. Watching these to learn more about training before we get him :) We have a problem though, since we don't really know that many people with dogs here. I guess we will have to try to find some people with dogs that we think could be good fits for our puppy, when he arrives.
My family are getting a staff soon. This will be our first one but I'm really existed as they are my favourite breed l for some reason, Idk if it's the how cuddly they are or if it's that they always look so happy or just that my family hasn't been the same since our cocker spaniel ( millie) died
I really like the point you made that we get our dogs for us and for them to put a lot of value on us. I always thought that I wish I had socialized my dog more with other dogs. However she is on the shy/timid side and is very selective on the dogs that she likes and does not really like going to the dog parks. But she loves spending time with us and going for hikes and doing agility.
Hi there, Karen! Finding the right dog to socialize with your pup may take some time. But as I mention in the video, it comes down to your expectations and what you want from your dog. I bet that going for hikes and doing agility is is something that you had wanted to do with her before you got her. So it's a lot less important to focus on letting her play with other dogs. Thanks for watching! ~Ken
So helpful. And it is annoying when people come up to want to pet your dog when obviously the dog is too excited . I was walking my dog at home and he saw a woman and her grandchild walking. I could tell my dog was starting to get a little excited and tense and I tried to calm him down and walk pass the two people (we were on opposite sides of the street) BUT the woman insisted on coming closer to me and my dog to pet him with her grandchild when it was CLEAR that my dog was starting to get a little out of control. 🙄 My question is do you ever recommend walking the dog closer to you instead of on a looser leash? I feel like I have more control of him when we walk closer together on a shorter leash and he tends to pull more on a looser leash
Wow, I’m glad I listened to this. If a leash was put on me by someone I trust but then they let all these ppl I don’t know come up to me and I don’t have much of a choice and being dragged by me leash to associate with strangers with no option other that to hide behind my parent, I wouldn’t be to happy neither. It’s uncomfortable as a human when your friend or partner interacts with strangers and they insist you come and say hi and shake hands and stay and talk when you clearly are shy or not getting the same vibe, u wanna leave but can’t go far until your grind or partner is done but you can at least keep a distance, now imagine being on a leash being forced to socialize with strangers. So yeah I can why this could and would be a problem and why dogs act so differently while on a leash.
When you work with a rescue dog you realize the importance of discretion and body language of both human and animal . . . if you want things to go well. Good video thanks!
Excellent advice. I’m loving your videos. I have a new border collie puppy....we’ve had dogs our whole lives, but never a BC. Your videos are helping me train her well, but also we are having lots of fun. Thanks for making so much excellent advice free to dog owners who don’t live close enough to have your in-person training classes.
We only use dog daycare / boarding that do behavior testing before allowing dogs into the system. We also always ask people if their dog is ok to greet our dog, etc.
My dog will sniff another dog on-leash for a second and then get aggressive. She is non-reactive walking past other dogs and being in close contact like obedience class. She is also great during off leash play. I prefer to not let her leash greet, I actually like that she doesn't have this expectation that she gets to play with every dog she sees. However the other day, a person let their dog on a flexi pull toward my dog and when I moved off the sidewalk to avoid, the owner just let the dog go further until he was in my dog's face. Sure enough my dog snapped. Do you recommend training though this issue or just being quicker to tell approaching owners that greeting is off-limits?
Hi there, Malinda! It’s going to require a combination of both. Making sure you don’t put your dog in that position will be important. Being very clear with other dog owners that this is something that you’re working on and they your dog may not be “friendly” if their dog approaches. I always say that, even though my dogs are all great with other dogs. I don’t want to put them into a position where I’m not absolutely certain about the outcome. It may seem a little uncomfortable at first, but you need to be an advocate for your dog! Pairing this response with lots of fun training exercises that focus on you and your relationship and skills with other dogs around (at a distance where you both can be successful) will ensure better skills and less distraction in the long run. Hope this helps you understand! Thanks for watching ~Ken
Thank you for this, it is nice to have some advice from a disciplined perspective with some respect. Humans, kids, dogs should have some sense of respect and discipline and not a free for all and really appreciate your approach.
I've had many dogs, large and small. Because of ignorant owners, my dogs do not go to dog parks. I walk them daily, but I choose who they are allowed to meet and greet. FYI, they are very social with people and other dogs.
These problems can also arise in Puppy training classes during “free play time”. If the older dogs happen to be a little rough or even aggressive that can cause problems for more timid dogs. May be some classes don’t have play time and that might be a good thing.
And sometimes we should just show our dogs some trust and let them make their own experiences with others. If we are pack leaders we can control the situation any time. But since most folks aren’t confident leaders, you are right: let them take their dogs on the leach.
« Owner has to be the pack leader » is totally outdated information. Also you can NOT control the situation anytime, if you can make our dog believe that, great, but it’s not just true. We don’t control other dogs reactions for example.
mighty axolotl you don’t know what you’re talking about. I hike with dogs from other people since years, mostly off leach. Some are difficult and some easy but everyone of them feels confident because they know i‘m a confident leader and can take over the situation ANY time. I could teach you a lot.
I’ve always had small dogs. Four of them from the past (they are no longer living) were certainly not dog park material. We had to take them home because they would tag team kids that was running away from them. Jump up and bite their shirt sleeve. This was totally our fault, and I took full responsibility for them not being trained properly. This was many years ago. I have two new small dogs now, and much less distraction so that I can put more effort into them. I have taken them to the dog park twice. They did pretty well, but only one time was another dog there. I have two chihuahua’s and they are sisters. One is timid and the other is a little spit fire. The timid one likes people and allows herself to be touched, and the spit fire has recently started snapping at people. Not hard enough to cause any damage, but more so like a warning that she is not amenable to any sort of handling by others. Chihuahua’s are, in most cases, a one person dog anyway. They will love the immediate family, and cling to one in particular of that family (that would be me). They are so cute and kids want to touch them, but I have to tell them that it’s not a good idea. I always watch closely so that no accidents happen. I’ve seen kids upset when I say no touching, but it’s a good lesson for them also. Just because something is pleasing to the eye, does not mean that it should be handled.
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What I found works pretty well if you do it consistently is don't walk your dog in a park when you 1st get out of your car. Find the closest bench and sit there for 10 to 15 minutes. When other dogs and people walk by, try to restrain your dog from going towards them. Let other dog walkers be aware that your dog is in training, And to please keep walking. Let them sniff the ground sniff the air And get that out of their system. After a while the dog will realize that they're going on a walk and everything else will be a minor distraction.
@@animalobsessed1 Where abouts in the world are you ? I run regular socials for nervy dogs in Manchester, UK.
Wow great advice!! I'll try this next time🥺
Thanks so much for the advice, I’ll try this out!
Id agree with this! I’d noticed my dog is too excited initially on walks (he loves every dog and person) but if we just chill and sit for 10-15 minutes first he’s a lot better. He gets time to absorb his environment a bit more which really helps rather than overwhelming him all at once
I like bringing toys and high value treats. Then my dogs could care less about other dogs cause we're going to play and have snacks.😁
I think socialization should be about teaching your dog how to act around other animals and people, not being playmates with every other dog out there.
Chrystal Frost I’ve noticed, just like humans, my dogs don’t like fake pretentious people & when they don’t like those people.. they don’t like their dogs. We learn a lot from our pets
Chrystal Frost I agree
This. If your dog hates other dogs, it's 100% fine if they never play, as long as they are socialized enough that they don't attack other dogs.
Eva Smiljanić exactly. My dog is more into the best why I can explain it is-she’s a dog therapist. If a dog has issues, she goes WAY ABOVE any animal ive seen to help that animal feel more comfortable. But when she’s on a walk and 2 or more dogs crowd over her, she will lunge. She won’t bite. But she’s all about rolling the other dog. Obviously a dominance issue instigated by feeling out of control. Because she is 90lbs, it does scare people. And those people make it harder to find owners that understand that. My dog is a shy, fearful dog. She doesn’t want to bite or attack. Bit the moment a happy go lucky dog owner stumbled upon her path.. at that moment. It truly is up to the other owner. I already know how to handle my dog. Do they know how to handle their 2-5 dogs?
Seriously doubt it. Unless they’re morons. For some reason every now and again GOD makes sure morons get DOGs that know better then their owners .
Exactly
Oh man, when I tell people they can't touch my dog, they act all offended. Then say something like "but you shouldn't bring your dog out if we can't touch her"
My dog is NOT public property. And while I expect her to behave around other people, the truth is that she does NOT like people. And I'm not going to force her to interact with people she doesn't like. I'm going to let her if she's behaving because I want her to learn that she can trust people, but I'm not going to force her.
You as the owner know what your dog is like in certain situations and telling people that they should not touch your dog is to protect them, yet it is somehow rude on your part? Like, excuse me? I’m trying to look out for your safety as well as my dog’s comfort.
@bel pet I thought Was the only that told people that
I have the same issue. Except it’s with the kids around my apartment- can’t even let my dog out on the balcony because they throw choking hazard toys to her and scream at her that she’s a bad dog all while trying to pet her. I’m not nice about it anymore. Especially when I’ve never seen a damn parent around once.
Same here. I know my dog won't bite or attack, but she's shy and gets nervous around strangers if they keep trying to touch her after she signals that she's not comfortable. Then she'll start barking at the person because all other signals didn't work and then they go "oh why is she barking?" why do you think lmao
Ok boomer
Yes poor dogs don’t get to claim personal space without a confrontation. My dog just doesn’t like other dogs. He tolerates them fine until they get in his face. Owners just assume because he is out and about with me that their off leash dog can just approach mine without asking me. Irritating.
That's such an important realization, Mntngirl! All do owners need to understand this. Not only for control and training, but also for dog safety! Thanks for watching! ~Ken
Well said
I completely concur. People Need to understand that their dogs running towards my dog to "greet " him without my permission is NOT cute.......
Sudarsh Sharma Unfortunately many people who have or have had balanced dogs just think they are all that way. They just don’t realize. I always just put my arm out now as soon as they start to approach. That seems to stop people and dogs as well actually. I then explain things to the people. This seems to work well for me.
Miles the Pit Bull I always put my arm straight out toward dogs that approach off leash and tell them no go on and I’m amazed that it always works. Always. My dog knows that I will advocate for him now and doesn’t get as tense. You could try that.
We have a new 9 week old puppy and have been stressing about socialization, thanks much for this perspective!
how did it go, we have a new pup thats 9 weeks now.. and we a little stressed about it
Do a lot of research. Your stress will be picked up by your pup! Try to go into it with a sense of fun. Being alert and aware is positive. Stress, not good for your your dog. Good luck and have fun!
Good advice. I trained Guide Dogs and our own dogs before dog parks existed and they were all perfectly socialized. I find that a lot of people at dog parks are totally clueless about dog body language and dog behavior.
This is such an eye-opening video, thank you for being honest about socialization and making it known that it’s okay to not introduce your dog to every dog that walks past. The biggest struggle is telling other dog owners that I don’t want my dog to meet theirs on leash, and then getting backlash about how I should be socializing her more. This was very helpful!!
I have social anxiety and have felt really bad about not always letting my dog greet other dogs we meet on our walks so this actually made me feel pretty good lol (my dog isn't even that interested in other dogs I've just thought that it's a thing I SHOULD do)
You guys make so much sense. Too many people think that they have to let their dog greet every dog they see. Ive experienced it in PetSmart and the Vet’s office. NO I don’t want your damn dog coming up to say hello.
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This is one of the most useful videos I have watched!!! I enjoy your training videos as I am in training myself while training a beautiful Chocolate English Lab, who just turned a year old and has so much energy. The statement you made about "why we get our dog", not to play with the neighbors dog or become exhausted at dog park....was so powerful to me and has me feeling really good about where I need to go.
This is how I feel about socialization and this is why I don't take my dog to dog parks. But, learning from you on the best ways to meet other dogs. Thanks!
My kids' pediatrician and I were just talking about this!!!! We both have dogs that do not want to be with other dogs and don't want other dogs coming up to them all the time. This is good advice! My dog has had so many hyper dogs run at her when I have walked her, she now hates it. She has been very good about it, lucky for me, but it is a pain that so many just let their dog come straight at yours when yours can't get away.
Are you working with your puppy on socialization? Before you ever allow your dog to greet another dog you need to make sure you've got a reliable response to name. Here's a link to a video where we teach a puppy to have a reliable response to their name: ruclips.net/video/TsVz8LbjwEA/видео.html
Happy Training! ~Ken
I have a 10 week old GSP Dog and I’m kind of using the technique for her with my cats. They have a run in the front yard and any time she jumps up against it I put her down and reward her, now she runs up and most the time will sit in front of the run instead of jumping on the netting. I’ll sit there and train her too so I’m hoping that when she’s ready to be introduced to them face to face she will be able to do so in a calmer manner.
Hello! Thank you for the video! I would like know if it’s the same way to teach recall with older rescued dogs. Thank you in advance ☺️
This is truly one of the best videos I’ve watched - well spoken, straight to the point (without any annoying fluff) and very clear instruction. Thank you :)
That’s so nice to hear, Heidi! I’m glad you enjoyed it and found it helpful. Thanks for watching! ~Ken
As someone who frequented dog parks, I really appreciated how my little girl listened. Yes, she played and explored, but I always had complete control of her with vocal commands that a lot of pet parents I've known are severely lacking
Thank you for putting these videos on RUclips, I am getting a puppy soon and I have been watching a lot of your videos. I feel prepared to welcome my new puppy into our home with confidence, because of the information you have given me. Thank you
So glad to hear that, Mother of Spoon! Thank you for watching! ~Ken
I socialized my dog by taking him to the horse yard. He saw cows, horses, other dogs, sheep, cats, and small children. This was all supervised but he became a well balanced and happy dog. He still doesn't like that one spaniel and the cockerpoo who lives next door but that's ok. both of us owners know that they don't get on so we just keep them away from each other
Thanks for this great idea!
Socialization should not happen at the dog park. I basically did little training drills with my puppy in as many different places as possible. By the playground, at the boardwalk, by construction work, at the park where he CNA see the dogs at the dog park and get positive reinforcement for it. My dog first went to the dog park at 5 months old. He knew his recall 100% even in distractions. I knew how to read him and other dogs. And my favorite line? Keep it short but sweet. I always go to the the park for 10-15 min. And then I leave. I go in the morning without too many and leave while it's still positive. Now at 3 years old we still go to the same park at the same time. And stay for 1 hour. He plays with the dogs he's friends with and is very well balanced and all around amazing dog.
less than 2 minutes into this video and you are spot on. my other annoyance is every person who comes over wants to pat my dog. not all dogs appreciate others on their territory.
That’s very true, Farina! Thanks for watching! ~Ken
And a lot of people don’t even let the dog sniff first or anything. They just come in from above, towering over a dog and reaching towards their face. I was always taught to let the dogs sniff you and come to you first when you’re first meeting. Let them initiate the contact and quite frankly if they don’t want to make contact they shouldnt have to. And as an intelligent human being we should respect that
The thing abt breaking a dog confidence by taking the to the park and letting them get steam rolled by other dogs really hits home for me right now. I'm a dog sitter, and the owner invited me to join her and her 4 month old pup at the dog park. We get there and she just let's her pup loose and ignores it, it got scared being surrounded by tons big dogs it tried to run and she was just ignoring it all these big dogs were just trying to play but her pup was terrified and it ended up biting one of them. It was so frustrating seeing her lack of concern for her dogs comfort.
“Dog park” I found your problem here
I REALLY wish there were more resources like this. I am a dog walker and live/work in a city. So many owners here think they're doing the right thing by taking their shiny new puppy to the local park and encouraging their pup to meet everyone, play with all the dogs, etc. So now, nearly all of the dogs I walk are absolutely dog-obsessed. On walks, they pull to get to other dogs and have low engagement with the person walking them, because they've been taught that playing with other dogs is the purpose of walks.
With my own dog, I plan to teach him to be calm and chill around other dogs - to basically pay very little attention to them. Then to have a small number of carefully chosen doggy playmates to teach him appropriate behaviour.
The most difficult but best command my dog was ever trained with was “watch me” which is a command for my dog to ignore other pedestrians or dogs and pay attention to me. It meant having to stop our walk any time she got distracted and rewarding keeping her eyes on us. It involved a lot of stop and go for a looong time but it has helped lower on leash aggression incredibly
That's a good idea I always used the word ignore. Like when I'm walking my new puppy and teaching him, stay a dog or some people are in their yard being loud or whatever if he's getting a little anxious and looking around and not paying attention, I use ignore. ignore him you know. And then like if he wants to try to pick something up but I don't want him to have you know I use the word yucky. .. he's going to be my service dog so I'll use normal language for that. but will also have other commands for when I don't want people to be able to tell him certain things in another language.
delighted to discover your videos. you are speaking my language, especially about dog owners being conscious about the fact that dogs differ in how they are in their 'doginalities', in how they are about being approached by another dog etc.. In my experience it can often be the dog owners that are the bane of my life , as well as off-leash dogs whose owners claim that their dog is friendly, and yet may cause difficulty because they are interacting with my on-leash dog. All my efforts to explain that it's not about their dog so much as the potential reaction of my dog on-lead that might be the issue, leaves me in despair. UGH!!!!!! I take evasive action now when I see the potential for such difficulties and have long since stopped going to dog parks; I see them as a hotbed of potential and actual hazards.
@Daisy Lane Same. My dog was ruined by dog parks, and the people near where I live allow their dogs to claim the park and guard it, provoking every dog that passes by. It's insanity just trying to get on our way, especially with a dog who already has a long list of issues to sort out.
@Daisy Lane I only play with my dogs at the dog park if no one else is there. I don't have a yard. I walk them separately 2 times a day, and once late at night together. It's a lot of walking. I had to ask the neighbors quite pointedly to keep their dogs away from mine. I have had them 14 months and 8 months, both big and grew up together.
@Daisy Lane Keep working on loose leash mode. Its been a year, my girl is learning it. I blame myself. I didn't get her to listen in the beginning, last winter. Sometimes it takes a halti, alot of work, and treats, which made her fat. Now I use dried roast beef or duck treats, no additives. Big boy is still lunging at other dogs, but had a nice interaction with small dogs that came up to him. I have to be real careful.
This is a good thing to think about. We started taking our dog to doggy daycare and then our dog who had always behaved so well with other dogs now showed signs of aggression/over excitement when meeting new dogs.
I am beginning to not like dog parks. Not because of the park it self but the people at the park!!! I dog sit and bring the dogs to park to get rid of their energy. They obey me. but when other dogs and people are around they think that it`s a free for all and they stop listening. Then other people have to pipe in and say let your dogs enjoy. Well it is hard when the other owners do not have their dogs under control and think that I am being to demanding when I do not want my dogs to be playing with their dogs. it is the same concept as a childrens park, if little sally does not play with little Jonny because he hit and I tell my child to stay away... it`s my choice. they get offended or something. There are rules at the park it is not a free for all. I always have my dogs in sight, but other owners dogs are running wild and do not call them to come, then my dog does not want to come when called.
That's a good point, HerBeauty'sInsideOut! People need to be a lot more aware of their dogs in these situations. Unfortunately we're a long way from that point. Hopefully this video helps dog owners to understand! Thanks for watching! ~Ken
Dog parks are unfortunately pretty unsafe environments. Lots of inappropriate dogs (whether fearful or too bossy, sometimes straight up aggressive), inappropriate play (usually between conflicting play style types), and owners who do not know how to handle their dogs.
I know it sounds condescending but after working hands on with dogs (career) for over 10 years, you see plenty of owners who are not able to a) read their dog’s social cues and/or b) take appropriate action if something is happening. You also have the people who think their dog can “do no harm” which is extremely dangerous.
HerBeauty`sInsideOut I agree with your statement
And I’ll add in.. not every head in the clouds dog owner keeps up with their shots.
Dog parks are becoming a contagious area to bring your dog
Totally agree. My mom was trying to keep this very excitable (humping) young unaltered male dog away from her (neutered) dog who was not liking the attention. Finally the owner of that dog got off her phone...to yell at my mom for shoeing her dog away! She wasn't paying any attention to her dog. Not enough to notice that my mom's dog was starting to get snippy or enough to realize that her dog was trying to hump everything and generally starting arguments with other dogs. I have also seen so many dog fights broken up by strangers because the dogs' owners are no where to be found.
I’m not going to take my dog to a dog park. Everything you told us is exactly how I feel. Before watching your video I felt like perhaps I shouldn’t be so overly picky. Now I feel validated. I’m not being overly picky- I’m being a responsible pet owner.
Trainer said I needed to take my dog to doggy daycare. Worse experience ever!!! They said she passed the “temperament test” and allowed her in group play. When I picked her up she was soaking wet. Non of the other dogs were wet and they couldn’t give me a valid explanation. No way to dry her off and it was 28° freezing outside. Never again! I just want to walk her without going nuts when she sees another dog. She can walk on lead at home but not when I take her out somewhere but especially on trail when she sees another dog. Certain I need a more experienced trainer.
This is a very good lecture. I am glad that you brought this up. Hope lots of dog owners watch this.🐕
What I really hear when I listen to your words and what I also recognise when I‘m out with my dogs is that the real problem is always the handler!
We don‘t have to build dog schools - we have to build schools for the human part of the leash!
This is spot on ! Great information ! I wish so many more dog owners would take this on board.
This is a dog information channel that is so well thought out and explained. Much appreciated. Rockstars the lot of you!!!
I have to say I thought you guys are just another clicker trainer. But with this video you prove you are a quality dog trainer .
Great video! I wish more people understood that socialization does not mean free, rambunctious play with dogs. My favourite kind of socializing my puppies is being around dogs WITHOUT interaction. My preference is for a dog that ignores other dogs, I’m way more fun anyway. ;)
That’s a good training plan, Shandy! And a great way to speed up your training! Thanks for watching ~Ken
that so much resonates with me.....
excellent video with some amazing tips that i haven't herd elsewhere!
Oh I love this!!!! This is exactly what we needed before we start socializing our pup. Thanks for the advice!!!
Thank you!
I have my 2nd Akita that I got last November at 33 months old. She is naturally an Alpha and I do not let her meet every dog she sees. Other dogs bark at her but she has the quiet confidence of an Akita.
Good to see that I have the common sense to do some of the things you suggest in your excellent video already. SUBSCRIBED
Love the detail! Details are so important and all too often advice that passes from owner to owner of any pet gets oversimplified. It isn't a black and white "interact with everyone/nobody." I love that these are steps, in order, and each has its place.
We just signed our pup up for a leash manners & polite greetings class with a local dog training place! I LOVE their setup on training and boarding. They very much believe in good socializing like you were talking about (small group play. Matched up with another dog of the same personality). We had a trainer come to our house to help but he didn’t unfortunately. And I think classes are the way to go for my pup! I love watching you videos. They always make such amazing points!
Glad you’re enjoying our videos, EmmyRuns27! Thanks for watching ~Ken
knowing your dog's personality is KEY. and thank you about not all interactions have to happen it can be just letting your dog be calm as other dogs pass. dogs are different just like ppl.
some ppl liek to be downtown in the city at night during NYE. some don't.
some dogs like daycare with lots of dogs some despise it.
my dog does better 1 0n 1 on a trail meeting dogs vs a daycare where it's all out choas.
i use to work at a daycare and there are pooches who "tolerate" being there but i think that's
wrong for the owner do drop them there if they really don't want to be there.
also lots of owners should take all this info in seriously then just letting there dog run lose
or not know there dogs personlaity. thanks
This is THE best truth bomb and message for dog Socialization. So happy this video exists 💕
This makes so much sense as to why I’ve seen dogs get aggressive with a dog I know who pulls on his leash all the time. I had no idea that it can look like aggression to other dogs
So far, I love your training and informational videos. Inline with how I believe also. My Marley Girl started to develop severe anxiety and regular panic attacks around 1.5 years old. I stopped taking her to the dog park because as you know, as soon as you walk in, mobs of dogs rush up and surround your dog and it is quite frightening and for a pup with anxiety and she feels like she can't escape, fights break out. For the longest time I felt like I was denying her dog to dog interactions until I had to hire a behaviorist to work with marley and I. She said that most dogs are not dog park dogs. Most dogs don't desire to spend time with other dogs and really get joy and satisfaction from interacting and playing with their human. Marley and I are always doing things together just her and I, and truth be told, she is happier to play and interact with me than she ever was at the dog park. She is my world and I am hers. By the way, she loves to play with other people when they come to my house. She was well socialized growing up. Just like humans are different from each other, so are doggies.
Same her Belina was a shelter pup but cannot properly greet other dogs so its always collar +secure harness she is I'm protect mode if she sees any other dog 🤦♀️
Great message and fantastic advice. I’ve been unable to walk my newly adopted dog in my neighbourhood because first, he’s not ready yet, but even when he is, there is this weird propensity for nearly every person walking a dog to think the dogs should meet - this happens with my other dog I’ve had for many years. Do they not realize that on leash is the absolute WORST way to introduce dogs? I’ve given up caring if other humans think I’m a rude cow, I have to advocate for my dogs. I avoid dog parks since I can’t tell if they are filled with clueless owners - it was heartening to hear that my dogs’ relationship with me is not only enough, but is paramount.
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I don't go to dog parks never will, what I do instead is set up doggie play dates with people that I know really well and know their dogs really well. We do it at least once a week, other than that my dog is training with me or going on adventures with me. Great video because dog parks these days are out of control, most people do not have control their dogs.
Finally a good perspective on the dog park. All those videos of the dog fights just unnerve me. I agree 💯 with you
Thank you so much for re enforcing my behavior is NOT rude, greedy, selfish if I don’t take my dog to spend time with other dogs. I don’t have to feel like people think I’m a snob when out and about and steer clear of greeting by stopping. Or if I move further away of path from their “friendly” excited dog.
Here my take on it; too many dogs get pit down because of agression towards people or dogs. Yeah, a lot of people just consider it as "my dog doesnt like strangers" but you can't ignore the fact that an uneducated owner (which is about 80% of them) will get rid of or kill their dog for "not liking" strange people or dogs. Socialize them young, socialize them right, and at the very least make sure that if you are accepting of a dogs aggressive behavior that you DONT GET RID OF THAT DOG!! most people aren't accepting.
Edit: I was re-reading my comment and just wanted to make it clear that I agree with everything you said. The only reason I said what I did was because my job is to go around the country to try and rehabilitate dogs on "death row" (due to euthanized) and so often the aggression I'm trying to fix is because somebody didn't socialize their dog well.
So pleased that you are pointing this out to people.
Finally, COMMON SENSE! Yes, we get our dog to be a part of OUR family, not a member of an unruly wolf pack.
This is such great advice! One thing maybe overlooked, small but can be important as it relates to leashed dogs is a leashed dog is more likely to be aggressive due in many cases to the owners insecurity and their pulling back on or tightening the leash when approaching another dog or a person, this sends a signal down the leash that something is not right and the dog needs to be on guard for their own safety or that of their owner. As an owner of "serious" dogs Bouviers 100lbs and Black Russian Terriers 140 lbs all guard and show dogs (all alpha personalities) not either or but both I have a lot of experience in training and socializing these dogs and can say from experience pay attention to what these people are saying they 100% correct. Ideally you will start with your dog as a puppy one of the best places is puppy obedience classes, continuing obedience classes and careful socialization as outlined here by these good trainers. As your dog gets older and you get more experience with your dog you will get much better at when and where to allow meetings with new dogs. One last thing always introduce your dog in as neutral an area as possible that way neither has little to defend other than the owner at least at first sight and if the owner acts calm and confident the dog will pick up on this and in almost all cases react appropriately. That's not to say there are not some dogs to be concerned about but if you follow what these people have to say you and your dog will be much better off.
I have a American Pitbull Terrier who is 63 lb and has always been good with other dogs until I move to a new area. We were at a unofficial designated dog park with a playground my son could play it. There were lots of people walking their dogs on a leash. There is a leash law in New York state. Unless you are in a designated and official and a member of a particular dog park and are allowed to let your dog off the leash. However there were many people that were showing up to the dog park with their dogs off the leash. My dog seem to have no problem whenever a dog was on a leash but three dogs, all different types ran up to me and my dog while my kid was on the playground luckily. They ran over without a leash and there was no owner in sight. It wasn't until they got right in my dog's face that my dog got insanely nervous and begin shaking and started snapping at the three dogs. I believe she was not only acting and protective behavior of herself but also myself. It was truly tragic to see my dog in that Shakin state. She is such a good dog and is so wonderful with people and especially children. She has always been good with other dogs and usually ends up being the more submissive one. However, after this episode at the park, there was another dog before we even left the park that ran over to her and she began being aggressive again. Since then, she is now aggressive anytime she sees another dog she becomes very hard to handle physically for me. It breaks my heart because people are now looking at me like my dog has issues and I should be ashamed of myself for having her anywhere out in public. This idea that people should just let their dogs off the leash is now making it dangerous not only for myself and my dog but also for my six year old. What are the dogs are okay with other dogs but they go after children? I agree with everything you're saying in your video. And we need to remind the dogs that they are to remain domestic if they are to remain our pets and be trusted. Because people have allowed their dogs to run free, they are not teaching them proper behavior. The owner of eventually showed up after it was clear it these dogs upset my dog.... however she was not aggressive to intervene and casually walked behind me towards the woods and casually and very quietly called her dogs as if it was unimportant. Unfortunately, it would be my pitbull who would get blamed for eating other dogs in the situation even though we are following all the laws possible to keep ourselves, the dog, and other people safe.
You make excellent points here.
Dog Parks is not a time to just let your dog go and not pay any attention whatsoever. Great video
My dog has no desire to interact with other dogs. He isn't aggressive at all. He just wants to pretend other dogs don't exist. He just want's them to stay away. He is 12 now. He was fine with his older brother, but that's it.
Lol my dog has never EVER liked other dogs. Tolerates them, but doesn't want to sniff them or play with them or anything. Many years ago she went to boarding and made a friend. They were attached at the hip and I think that is the only dog she has ever liked hahah
lol, being a human dog lol
Awesome to See a video like this where people who work with dogs know what they are talking about.
Thanks Janina! Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching! ~Ken
This video couldn’t have come at a better time! Thanks!
Glad it was so well timed for you, Micayerluv! Thanks for watching! ~Ken
lol, I'm watching it AFTER I made a rare visit to a dog park. Nope, not going back (as usual). Those places are chaos. I've been to dog shows, agility events, and some field trials + field trial training days. There were dozens and dozens of dogs, but everything was civilized + orderly. My few public dog park visits (mostly just to observe) have had me realizing there's no way I want my dogs in there. As I said, they're too chaotic with a few too many inexperienced people allowing aggressive dogs too much freedom.
Dog parks are great for urban dwellers that need a place to let their dog run free off-leash. In my case, I live in my own dog park. I'm on several acres all fenced for dogs. For socialization, I'm sticking to pre-screened dogs that have sociable neutral temperaments.
So kind of you to respond to me! I have so much to learn, and you guys are just so helpful. I, too, have had the unfortunate experience of dogs who are just
too aggressive, and the dog parents think it's cute, or they are busy yakking with other dog owners. Even my dog walker always brought my dog to the dog
park. I love it when you say I didn't buy a dog so the other guy's dog has someone to play with!
I like the common sense here. Why would anyone want their dogs to get bad ideas from random dogs that then have to be eliminated? Props
This is the best video regarding socialisation I have watched. I live in a city with lots of dog owners of small dogs who allow their dogs to run crazy at the parks, engaging with any dog they see. We have a very friendly 30kg bulldog mix, and she has a handful of friends (a young cane corso, a Boxer, a few labradors) who we can trust but I would never let her run riot!
Thank you very much, Natasha! I’m so glad it resonated with you! Thanks for watching ~Ken
My main concern at dog parks are the people around here that bring dog aggressive dogs out and get offended when I yell at their dog because he/she went for my puppies throat... I litterally had this happen day before yesterday, I hate having to be the monkey in the middle but I'm not going to let my puppy get bit by asshole no.1s pitbull mix (nothing wrong with bully breeds, my puppy is an amstaff mix but shelters and rescues here often lie to get adoptions and most ppl around here can't handle them properly)
I LOVE THIS VIDEO. I have a dog that has a huge fear of dogs, he has been attacked before and can be reactive. We take the correct precautions, muzzle, he wears a coat that says space needed and I wear one as well and he is leashes. But people let there dogs off lead with zero recall and it puts everyone at risk. And once my dog has stacked all that anxiety I then can't walk him for the remainder of the day because even just a person could set him off. The annoying thing is, my dog can meet and be fine with dogs, once there is a slow and careful introduction, but you can never get to that point. I live that the pandemic has got more people loving dogs, but it feels like no one has taken to time to learn dog walking manners.
Great conversation! My year old border collie has lots of playdates and walks with known doggies. I will make it a point to use the distraction of the dogs to work on her recall and obedience skills tomorrow. Side note: My pup looks and acts so much like your smooth coat. Hugs from Pennsylvania!
Thank you, Caren! I think your Border Collie will really be able to learn a lot by using those other dogs as a distraction during training. Have fun with it! Happy Training ~Ken
I have a 1 1/2 year old husky and I always keep her on a leash when we walk. I am so over with these owners who need to let their dogs approach her whether on leash or off. I'm still training her and more than once has an owner insist their dogs are "friendly" only to have their dogs snap at her. Now she is beginning to snarl and growl back at them when they get aggressive. We were actually hunted down one morning by a neighborhood dog who had gotten away from her owner. She came up from behind and immediately jumped my dog and we were several blocks away from her home. Now I just make a point to avoid them on our walks. We have a lot of winter visitors this time of year and we do not know their dogs and they do not keep their dogs leashed because they are "on vacation". Thank you for this video. I wish I could print it and hand out copies😄
Thanks for this, as well as your whole video series. Getting our 8 week old border collie next week and have been studying them like college finals...
Hi there, Sean! I love the fact that you're putting in so much effort to be prepared for your new puppy. It's going to be work. But that work can be LOTS of fun if you are prepared for it. You'll have to keep me posted on your progress in a comment string here. Enjoy the process, Happy Training! ~Ken
Good luck in your (canine) college finals !!!!.........all the study will be well worth the effort & no doubt it will be straight As all the way. Lucky puppy to have such a considerate companion with whom to live and explore the world.
Yes! People think I am weird when I don’t introduce my dog in leash at first to other dogs to say “hi”. I usually will do a walk with another dog that my dog doesn’t know well. No confrontation just existing around other. Not giving each other any attention. Or greet in a wide neutral calm space. Just what worked for me😮
Dogs are not humans, their psych is wired differently
Socialization is a stimulant that activates their instincts, their instinct is to pack up.
Socialization with every type of dog puppy, aggressive, or old or even timing, as long as you are training correctly and in control when socializing your dog, these factors will not Matter. You should socialize your dog for every situation
Some good points In this video, but one thing to remember dogs are not human.
Victoria Duvall yes! Dogs aren’t human! They actually have better instincts. I socialized my dog the way society told me to. She’s still a bitch and will always dominate the submissive or running/focused on a ball dog. I’ve learned to read my dogs and get them out of all uncomfortable situations as soon as I notice they’re not happy about the situation they’re in. I’ve been training this one girl for over 3 years. Thank God she is into treats. Because she’s fear reactive. And that’s the most unpredictable
Victoria Duvall excellent point.
@@animalobsessed1 hey I think dogs have a natural instinct to form packs. I've seen dogs do that in dog parks. Unknown un-related dogs after few mins of bonding and playing, start acting similarly. They will even gang up on a diffident shy dog even if their handlers haven't witnessed bullying behaviors in them prior to that day.
@@animalobsessed1 I live in India and face the menace of feral stray dogs almost daily. I've never seen just 1 stray dog alone, they mostly are in groups. If there is just 1 dog, it'll will be very scared and shy and mostly submissive to humans. But if there are more, they might be all submissive in the morning and by night fall when streets are devoid of humans, they show lot more dominant and aggressive behaviors towards people.
@@animalobsessed1 WTH did you get that information from? Dogs don't form packs ....🤣🤣🤣🤣 . Next your going to tell us their Wolf Ancestors don't live in packs You really need to educate yourself on canine behavior .
I'm taking my 3 dogs to the beach when there's no other dogs around. My older dog is 12 and I never had any problems with her coming back or socializing. The male dog is 5 and he can be more territorial but only on the leash as you mentioned but he's even quicker to come when I call. My newst puppie she's a 3 months old and she's coming when I call at the beach. Everytime I see other dogs coming unless I know the dogs I call mine back for now to train the puppie to come. This video was super helpful because I now know I'm doing the right thing. Thank you so much. My older dogs are also showing the puppie how to act and she's quick to follow them.
I only bring my dogs to the dog park when it’s empty so they can run around together but end up leaving when other dogs come in. I’m not intentionally trying to shut my dogs away from other dogs but an unknown dog & dog owner could bring disaster. I do bring them to doggie daycare but that’s only because I work there part time and know the personality of my dogs and the dogs they are interacting with.
Such a good video! I have a 1 year old English mastiff. When he was 9 months someone I saw while walking him had a neopolitan mastiff a month younger and asked if they could meet. I said sure (thinking nothing of it) they were both on leashes but this other dog was soooo hyper my dog became instantly uneasy and wanted nothing to do with him so I had to let the guy know it wasn't a good idea. He kept saying oh they're both puppies its okay. I just apologized and walked away. Never want my dog to get agressive because he's uncomfortable. This guy had no control over his dog whatsoever
My dog was raised in a dogtown where most people had dogs and evening walks were a social thing.
He makes the decisions about who and what to interact with. If I think there are risks I say "No" and we walk on by.
He's 10 years old now and we live in a different state but he still wants to meet most people or dogs. There aren't as many dog parks but all the old rules still apply on leash or off leash. He knows about horses, donkeys, and cattle but will go ballistic over raccoons that try to set up house in the bamboo, because of what they've done to our Koi. Yes, he's a smart dog, but he got his puppy training in the first month we got him from the breeder. And that's made all the difference in the world.
I didn't have the chance to socialize my dog with other dogs when he was younger, he's almost 3 years old now. I'm trying to slowly and calmly introduce him to other neighbor dogs and especially my family's new puppies. Your video really helps me confirm that the things I've already been doing, the calm obedience training and the emphasis on listening to me over playing is the right way to go. But I have been having him on a leash and harness for most of the interactions because I'm concerned that he'd be too rough on the pups. I'll try to find a different method of safe interactions for both dogs without a leash.
And this is why its so important early on to teach people not just dogs, about loose leash walking. I train my dogs early on that I don't want any tension on the leash. They get rewarded for loose leash walking, because when the leash is loose, we are both in a relaxed state of mind - for the most part. Also I believe a dog shouldn't be going to an off leash or a dog park without being trained in recall. Our pack no matter what they are doing comes back, is always in our line of sight, always able to do their own thing. IN fact its weird to watch us at the dog park be the only one who's dog is actually walking together with us.
The real problem is people with dogs on a leash that make a straight beeline towards you even if you start walking away, because your dog is leashed. I still don't know how to deal with those people
Agreed. Especially today SO many owners paying more attention to their phones than their dogs at park! My spayed female kept getting aggressively mounted by negligent owners. I had to stop going to dog park, unpleasant to say the least. They offered NO guidance to their dogs.
I’d go have a talk with the owners of those dogs, that’s not acceptable on any level.
Great advice...good as well to have two of you presenting....gonna watch more of your videos
Thank you for this video. It's an important message to get out to everyone, but especially to first time dog owners. My dog was his previous owner's first dog and he did the very mistakes you mention. He had the puppy greet everyone on the street and took him to the dog park for hours daily, apparently thinking that it was good for a shy, uncertain dog to learn some rough play. All with the good intention of socializing, but not realizing that quantity doesn't mean quality. When the dog came to me at 18 months for problem behavior, he had learned to attack so that other dogs and people would leave him alone. I had to teach him that I'm not going to force him into social situations, so he doesn't have to drive everyone away. I've gotten my fair share of panic bites getting this message through and finally, after 3 years, we are starting to be neutral passing strange dogs on the streets. Dog parks are still too much for him - and might be for the rest of his life, but fortunately he's been able to have some dog friends after several hours of patient introductions to have the rules clear for both dogs.
Oh, this puppy was also rescued from streets at 3 months old, so he had already had a bad start for socializing, and unfortunately the previous owners good intentions just multiplied the issues that the dog had.
BsLizardette so common. I think an important point you have is it took 3 years to correct. I expect too much sometimes from my dog. With difficult dogs some things take years to perfect; be it from incorrect training or previous emotional traumas. I find that a lot of behaviors I took for granted in my previous easier to train dogs take longer to achieve in my challenge child.
I live next to a dog friendly,leash free beach . What amazes me is how many people I've spoken to who will not let their dog walk with them without a leash because "the dog will take off and they would never catch them again!" I have told many about this channel as I've found that there is something for everyone here and if you have a specific question it will be answered. Thanks so much for your time and dedication to making life with our dogs better for all of us .🏆🤗
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I go to dog parks to see other dogs but I leave my dog home. Even if there was only one other dog there I would have no control over the other owner who has no control over their dog.
For really high energy dogs like Border Collies, I can see the need to take them somewhere to exercise but a dog park isn’t it.
DovidM Years ago I used to take my last dog (RR) to off leash parks but this stopped when she was viciously attacked by 2 German Shepherds the owner had no control over. I never took her again. I now have a 6 month old RR and also will never take her anywhere other dogs are off leash as I am too terrified. BTW my pup was recently attacked on the street by an off leash Staffie but luckily no blood letting. Stupid owners.
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Wow that’s horrible. I was supposed to get a puppy and hope I still am and I plan on introducing him to a family members pitbull terrier and beagle mix. They’re such sweethearts and love to play and are not aggressive so I hope that means thy won’t be aggressive or anxious when I introduce them to my first puppy. (I have been watching so many videos and I still know I won’t be ready for such a bundle of joy)
Also I am very sorry what happened, unfortunately it’s usually the owners fault and hopefully people can learn to keep their dogs on leash, no matter how much you’ve trained them.
So glad I followed your channel. What sensible advice.
Yeah my dog was attacked when she was a puppy and she can only be around elderly dogs or dogs with massive respect that do not get in her face and give her her distance. Totally makes 100% sense your whole video.
As long as my dogs are ok with each other im happy.. Some dogs have no interest in making friends with the other dogs in the neighborhood and as u said, they are OUR dog's, not other people's puppy play date..
This is great. We just got a puppy but have fostered dogs for years. We live in a city and we always tell me people that our dogs don't meet dogs on leash. I always thought I was being paranoid but it never felt right to have to restricted/restrained stranger dogs meet one another on the street. Thanks for this. We also need work more on recall!!! Will start that tomorrow.
I got "talked to" by the trainer I was going to because I wouldn't take my dog to their daycare and have my dog be more socialized. Her train of thought was your dog should meet 10 strange dogs a day every day! Heck I don't see 10 dogs a day on a walk.
One of the most important lessons my German Shepherd learned was that not all dogs want to play with her and that she did not have to play with others.
If a dog showed any sign of not wanting her around I would always call her away and I would insist on that. In the same breath if she showed she didn't want to play I would intervene and be a buffer.
My mix breeds most important lesson was learning many dogs find her excited behaviour as being just too much. She learned to recognise standoffish behaviour and change her own body language and allow the other dog to come to them. She also learned that if I called, ignoring me meant game over whereas coming when called means treats, toys, love and attention. So her recall is 100%.
She also. Learned that if she felt unsafe she can always come to me and I'll act as a barrier to whatever she's concerned about.
Our 4 month old rescue dog has never struggled with socialization. Always interacted fine with pretty much any other dog from the first try, probably because we're lucky to leave by a park with lots of other puppies.
We do however make sure she doesn't run towards the other dogs and dont force her way into interacting with dogs that dont want to or can't. I did worry about her getting "oversocial" at a point, but by making sure she doesn't get to play with every dog, she did restrain herself a little more.
Lots of really good tips in a short video. Thanks. All your videos are of high quality. I always learn something.
Yes yes yes!!! Thank you. I tell my clients this stuff all the time.
My boyfriend and I are getting a Staffordshire Bull terrier next year. Watching these to learn more about training before we get him :) We have a problem though, since we don't really know that many people with dogs here. I guess we will have to try to find some people with dogs that we think could be good fits for our puppy, when he arrives.
My family are getting a staff soon. This will be our first one but I'm really existed as they are my favourite breed l for some reason, Idk if it's the how cuddly they are or if it's that they always look so happy or just that my family hasn't been the same since our cocker spaniel ( millie) died
Some dogs are jerks and their owners seem that way most of the time too when they don't interrupt bad behavior.
There are no bad dogs only bad owners
I really like the point you made that we get our dogs for us and for them to put a lot of value on us. I always thought that I wish I had socialized my dog more with other dogs. However she is on the shy/timid side and is very selective on the dogs that she likes and does not really like going to the dog parks. But she loves spending time with us and going for hikes and doing agility.
Hi there, Karen! Finding the right dog to socialize with your pup may take some time. But as I mention in the video, it comes down to your expectations and what you want from your dog. I bet that going for hikes and doing agility is is something that you had wanted to do with her before you got her. So it's a lot less important to focus on letting her play with other dogs. Thanks for watching! ~Ken
So helpful. And it is annoying when people come up to want to pet your dog when obviously the dog is too excited . I was walking my dog at home and he saw a woman and her grandchild walking. I could tell my dog was starting to get a little excited and tense and I tried to calm him down and walk pass the two people (we were on opposite sides of the street) BUT the woman insisted on coming closer to me and my dog to pet him with her grandchild when it was CLEAR that my dog was starting to get a little out of control. 🙄
My question is do you ever recommend walking the dog closer to you instead of on a looser leash? I feel like I have more control of him when we walk closer together on a shorter leash and he tends to pull more on a looser leash
Wow, I’m glad I listened to this. If a leash was put on me by someone I trust but then they let all these ppl I don’t know come up to me and I don’t have much of a choice and being dragged by me leash to associate with strangers with no option other that to hide behind my parent, I wouldn’t be to happy neither. It’s uncomfortable as a human when your friend or partner interacts with strangers and they insist you come and say hi and shake hands and stay and talk when you clearly are shy or not getting the same vibe, u wanna leave but can’t go far until your grind or partner is done but you can at least keep a distance, now imagine being on a leash being forced to socialize with strangers.
So yeah I can why this could and would be a problem and why dogs act so differently while on a leash.
Lol I was so I high thought the title was the unpopular truth about socialism 😂
Lmao
Dude, that’s hysterical. Keep up the good work!
@Don X poor primitive beasts , we do need to look after them....
Well, one could argue that the "dog park" of socialism is also a bad scene... so there's that.
When you work with a rescue dog you realize the importance of discretion and body language of both human and animal . . . if you want things to go well. Good video thanks!
Excellent advice. I’m loving your videos. I have a new border collie puppy....we’ve had dogs our whole lives, but never a BC. Your videos are helping me train her well, but also we are having lots of fun. Thanks for making so much excellent advice free to dog owners who don’t live close enough to have your in-person training classes.
Hi there, Kathy! So glad you’re enjoying our videos. Thanks for watching! ~Ken
We only use dog daycare / boarding that do behavior testing before allowing dogs into the system. We also always ask people if their dog is ok to greet our dog, etc.
My dog will sniff another dog on-leash for a second and then get aggressive. She is non-reactive walking past other dogs and being in close contact like obedience class. She is also great during off leash play. I prefer to not let her leash greet, I actually like that she doesn't have this expectation that she gets to play with every dog she sees. However the other day, a person let their dog on a flexi pull toward my dog and when I moved off the sidewalk to avoid, the owner just let the dog go further until he was in my dog's face. Sure enough my dog snapped. Do you recommend training though this issue or just being quicker to tell approaching owners that greeting is off-limits?
Hi there, Malinda! It’s going to require a combination of both. Making sure you don’t put your dog in that position will be important. Being very clear with other dog owners that this is something that you’re working on and they your dog may not be “friendly” if their dog approaches. I always say that, even though my dogs are all great with other dogs. I don’t want to put them into a position where I’m not absolutely certain about the outcome. It may seem a little uncomfortable at first, but you need to be an advocate for your dog!
Pairing this response with lots of fun training exercises that focus on you and your relationship and skills with other dogs around (at a distance where you both can be successful) will ensure better skills and less distraction in the long run. Hope this helps you understand! Thanks for watching ~Ken
Thank you for this, it is nice to have some advice from a disciplined perspective with some respect. Humans, kids, dogs should have some sense of respect and discipline and not a free for all and really appreciate your approach.
I've had many dogs, large and small. Because of ignorant owners, my dogs do not go to dog parks. I walk them daily, but I choose who they are allowed to meet and greet. FYI, they are very social with people and other dogs.
These problems can also arise in Puppy training classes during “free play time”. If the older dogs happen to be a little rough or even aggressive that can cause problems for more timid dogs. May be some classes don’t have play time and that might be a good thing.
And sometimes we should just show our dogs some trust and let them make their own experiences with others. If we are pack leaders we can control the situation any time.
But since most folks aren’t confident leaders, you are right: let them take their dogs on the leach.
« Owner has to be the pack leader » is totally outdated information.
Also you can NOT control the situation anytime, if you can make our dog believe that, great, but it’s not just true. We don’t control other dogs reactions for example.
mighty axolotl you don’t know what you’re talking about. I hike with dogs from other people since years, mostly off leach. Some are difficult and some easy but everyone of them feels confident because they know i‘m a confident leader and can take over the situation ANY time. I could teach you a lot.
I’ve always had small dogs. Four of them from the past (they are no longer living) were certainly not dog park material. We had to take them home because they would tag team kids that was running away from them. Jump up and bite their shirt sleeve. This was totally our fault, and I took full responsibility for them not being trained properly. This was many years ago. I have two new small dogs now, and much less distraction so that I can put more effort into them. I have taken them to the dog park twice. They did pretty well, but only one time was another dog there. I have two chihuahua’s and they are sisters. One is timid and the other is a little spit fire. The timid one likes people and allows herself to be touched, and the spit fire has recently started snapping at people. Not hard enough to cause any damage, but more so like a warning that she is not amenable to any sort of handling by others. Chihuahua’s are, in most cases, a one person dog anyway. They will love the immediate family, and cling to one in particular of that family (that would be me). They are so cute and kids want to touch them, but I have to tell them that it’s not a good idea. I always watch closely so that no accidents happen. I’ve seen kids upset when I say no touching, but it’s a good lesson for them also. Just because something is pleasing to the eye, does not mean that it should be handled.