so much the fuck this ICS Vortex was the soul of the band. his vox truly cut through the mayhem and delivered the punch of the song. without him, it's like, why bother just go listen to borknagar
The orchestra, Kringkastingsorkesteret aka KORK (the national Norwegian radio orchestra) has many decades of history with a strong commitment to presenting contemporary Norwegian music across pretty much the entire musical spectrum. It's part of their mission and job description to play concerts like this. I'm sure the musicians enjoy some collaborations more than others but I think it's also safe to assume that KORK appeals particularly to musicians who are interested in working like that. The idea and initiative to this concert actually came from KORK and NRK (the national broadcaster with which KORK is affiliated). The orchestra had also contributed on a Dimmu Borgir record in the past. 13:07 A statement like that requires some context. I think the view and understanding of black metal in America is somewhat different from, say Norway for example. Religion and Christianity plays a much bigger role in the US compared to other, far more secular nations in the West and for that reason you see certain things through a different lens. I find that black metal and satanism are among those things that Americans typically see through the lens of Christianity as opposed to a secular perspective, or from the point of view of the phenomenon itself. I think it helps to come to the realisation that it is a uniquely Christian perspective - and a somewhat archaic one at that - to equate atheism or standing in opposition to organised religion as "the devils work" and labelling those people as the instruments of Satan. Most modern "satanism" is "satanic" only in the sense of standing in opposition to religion. There are very few black metal bands that are genuinely satanic in the Christian understanding of the word. The vast majority of them are either just theatrical acts draped in a dark aesthetic (the genre can be full of fantasy stuff and quite "nerdy" so the parallell to Tolkien and LotR is not bad actually), or in the event that they actually subscribe to some form of Satanism it's typically along the lines of LaVeyan Satanism, which is essentially just a form of atheism which rejects the existence of anything supernatural (and that includes Satan too, naturally).
The Prague Symphony Orchestra that the metalhead guy mentions was the one used in the Death Cult Armageddon recording. Also, the live video credits say that they played live with the Prague orchestra in Wacken and with Kringkastingsorkesteret in Oslo, from which concert is this video.
@Krakeloa Yes, I absolutely agree with what you've said. From my french point of view, I can say that there is tons of bands doing lovely black metal music, without ever coming close to any form of satanism (even the LaVeyan one). And they are not too difficult to find, you just have to dig a bit deeper than just the major bands like Mayhem, Burzum or Emperor. This stereotype comes from a few major bands in the 90s and now every black metal band suffers from it. I personally love Pénitence Onirique, they talk about alchemy (to express feelings), philosophy and society, and I'm kind of sick to hear people say it is satanism as soon as they see people wearing black clothes and black veil on their face. I get that it's not a music for everyone, but if you don't know, then don't judge. It's just what I am fighting for.
Plenty of black metal bands have tolkein references. Gorgoroth is directly named after the plain of gorgoroth in mordor, and fenriz used to have a side band named Isengard
@@richardbourn5896 Carach Angren means The Black Gate, Amon Amarth means Mount Doom, Burzum means Darkness in black speech from the inscription on the one ring, etc etc etc. Yeah there are tons of Tolkien references in metal band names and songs.
If you see the whole concert, you'll see that some of the musicians really love it! They're headbanging and all.. ❤ watch the beginning in the concert 😊
Thank you so much, guys! I love this performance! I was one of those who recommended this song. It still seems really crazy to me how the orchestration was synchronized with the band. The drummer is a swiss watch. The choir replacing the epic voice of ICS Vortex, brilliant work. The entire orchestra replacing the atmosphere of Mustis (former keyboardist/composer), I was speechless the first time I heard this live act. After the departure of him and ICS Vortex the band is not the same. I love your channel, Rich and Jud. Great reaction, great measures!
Thank you for reacting to my favourite song by Dimmu Borgir ( dark fortress, or Citadel in Icelandic),I’ve seen them live multiple times and this is by far most iconic song. This song has a really sad story behind it. Apparently their original keyboard Mustis wrote this piece of music on piano and wanted to have the copyright to it but Shagrath who sings for Dimmu Borgir said no and fired him via text message.
I never knew this information about Mustis :( Just goes to show you how much of a masterpiece this song is. Originally crafted on a grand piano by 1 guy, turns into a full metal band with full orchestra
Worth listening to the guy himself and his solo piano version. Mustis, Vortex and Nic Barker to a lesser extent were key in making some of Dimmu's best albums. ruclips.net/video/4s88vxHjWrs/видео.html
The Orchestra is "Kringkastingsorkestret" , or the national broadcasting orchestra in translation to english. It's among the top symphonic orchestras in the world.
I was looking for this comment! And a whole choir could not replace ICS Vortex… it was such a grand song with both of them, I remember my jaw on the first time I listened to this song
Dimmu Borgir are amazing, I would highly suggest "The insight and the catharsis" and "Kings of the carnival creation", album versions. I'd love to see what Judson could do with them.
Exactly! And Sympozium! Every Dimmu album has a distinct style/sound so any time someone hears them I always want them to hear their other albums as well, to show their variety and range of sound.
First off, thank you so much for using my suggestion! Wanted to make sure I watched the whole video before I said anything else Spot on saying Judson is the friend we get to show all our metal songs to... I love the look on his face when he first heard the vocals. Same face my ex gfs Mom made at that exact moment 🤣🤣🤣 So true though. You gotta love the music you're playing so you can put your 100% effort and creativity into the piece. Very nicely said. I am just so happy that Jud got to check out Symphonic Black metal. You guys are amazing!!! Keep up the good work. I enjoy watching these videos after a long day of work P.s. doesn't have to be filmed but show Judson the Mustis piano version of this song.... Grand Piano only. No orchestra. No guitar or drums. No vocals ;)) This song lives rent free in my head
First metal show my brother took me to, at Atlanta’s original Masquerade…. I’d been listening since I was ten, the absolute metalhead catharsis of the show was amazing.
YES!!!! I was one of the people recommending this to you. This is the band who got me into classical music in the first place, and I'm very thankfull It did. If I knew beforehand that Judson would have appreciated it more if he knew that the orchestra or the choir liked what they were playing I would have recommended another song though, namely: Dimmu Borgir - Mourning Palace (Live Forces of the Northern Night / Wacken open air 2012). I never saw Lord of the rings, I don't like fantasy, but I can imagine the music from Dimmu being a soundtrack. Their scores are truly epic, or majestic and with that, Shagrath's voice being all gurgly (as Judson called it) fits right in. With this wall of sound, no clean voice could ever add to the music, it would get lost in all the sounds produced by, in this case, about 100 people, 50 orchestra and 50 choir plus the bandmembers. Surely a musical prodigy, as Judson seems to be, could appreciate the theatrics of it all, including the blastbeats holding the rhythm, the ensemble of the guitars and bass running along with all the horns and trumpets and voices from the choir. I've been a follower of Dimmu for a long time, and in their early days the orchestral part of their music was played by only syntersizers and computerstuff, this is the upgraded version, and I like it! I have the special edition of this album, including DVD/bluray and the extras-disc, which features a documentary about the preparations for this performance. It's remarkable how many microphones it needed, they had 3 different sound-vans all working together to make Band - Orchestra - Choir sound great together. And the repetitions with the band and the orchestra, with the conductor of the orchestra remarking that it would be difficult for the musicians in his orchestra to play along with the drummer, since he's quite fast, so funny. Well, I am very glad you found yourself reacting to Dimmu and sharing it with us, but don't stop here, get to know The Mourning Palace as previously mentioned, or other great performances like Gateways or The Serpentine offering, all live performed of course. It will be a trip, I assure you! Thank you for this! Proceed Richard!
The Czech National Philharmonic Movie Orchestra was just used to record the album which this song was on back in 2003. If the band performs live, they just look around what orchestra is available. In Oslo it was probably the Orchestra that works for the Norwegian TV channel NRK.
I have to admit, it pains a little when people choose this version, because even though it's of course impressive live, it misses three people that make this track: Vortex' solo signing, to me, trumps any choir version of it. Mustis' amazing piano is badly mixed in, and all of Nic Barker's amazing details in his drumwork are basically not there. (Admittedly he played on other tracks where that shows more clearly.) Having said that, cool you guys chose it. It's funny to me because I never liked this singing style until I came across Dimmu and the compositions were so awesome I sortof put up with the vocals, and now, man, can't even imagine *not* liking these vocals anymore lol. Also I think the session musicians probably largely enjoy their own parts at least and being in a live show in and of itself, tis quite an experience after all either way. So that probably gets them through even if they don't care for metal much.
Oh I was there at that show and seeing this still gives me goosebumps to this day. The choir and orchestra are the same as they used on that album btw. This was a one time event, though not entirely true, they did a similar show once at Wacken where they used another choir and orchestra. So both the shows are part of the "Forces of the Northern Night". This video was in Oslo and that show they used a Norwegian Orchestra. The Czech Orchestra was used at the Wacken show. Another great song from this show is "Gateways". It also has a guest vocalist, who, erm, might surprise you ;)
Dimmu Borgir or black metal in general is not my main jam, but they have their moments. It would be absolute joy for me if you guys could check out their song ”Kings of the carnival creation”. Its a good one i promise. And cheers from Finland, love your channel.
Dimmu is not black metal. If you want to check out something new in the black metal genra try "Witch Club Satan". crazy good liveshow and one of the next bands you will hear about in the future.
@@Darker_Waters They are not black metal anymore. They used to, but nowdays they make crap that got nothing to do with black metal. Listen to the difference in older albums and the newer ones. It's far from black metal in the last two albums. I consider In Sorte Diabolii as the last black metal album they released and so does most of the community. You can belive you're listening to black metal all you want, but it does not make it true. They have moved further and further away from black metal and all elements that make the genra black metal. If you can't hear that, you don't know your music well. Sound quality, lol.. Alright buddy
Not all but some of the orchestra and choir members did enjoy themselves I'm sure. There are interviews from these shows and some of the musicians are fans of Dimmu. Thanks for doing this one. Both shows were great.
Greetings from Guam! Awesome! Please do Scorched Earth Erotica by Cradle of Filth and Aidus by Eluvetie and The Vampire From Nazareth from SepticFlesh.
That show/Blu-ray/DVD SepticFlesh did with a live orchestra in Mexico is really good. I agree it's worth checking out one of the tracks from that live show even though I suspect he won't like the vocals on those either.
It's the norwegian brodcasting orchestra on this consert. On a bunch of their albums thei have worked with the Prague symphonic wich is probably where you got that their where Czechs, Anyway love your reactions and it's fun to see you do a norwegian band as I am norwefian. Maybe you could do Gateways by Dimmu Borgir from tha same show think that would be awsome and that you would enjoy it even more!
Disc 1 contains the entire Oslo show performed together with Kringkastingsorkestret (the Norwegian Radio Orchestra and Choir) in 2011. Disc 2 contains the performance at Wacken Open Air with the National Czech Symphonic Orchestra in 2012. Both discs had the same song list, not sure which one this is. I'm guessing it's the Oslo one, because I didn't spot the Wacken logo anywhere, thye usually have that very clearly on the side of the stage. Anyway, I always wonder what playing in a show like this is for the classical musicians. I would guess pretty small percentage of them are familiar even with the band itself before the show, let alone a fan of them.
Check out this song played only on grand piano by Mustis,(ex- keyboard player) who actually wrote it! Dimmu Borgir - Progenies of the Great Apocalypse - Mustis Unplugged - the name for You on You tube
Apocalypse Orchestra would be an awesome band to do (no actual orchestra, but they do have a choir a lot). They're sort of folky doom metal. Heavy, slow and melodic. Mostly clean singing. 'The Great Mortality' or 'The Garden of Earthly Delights' would be good first time songs.
The choir-sung part was originally sung by their bassist ICS Vortex which quit the band in 2009. The band has only released 2 albums "Abrahadabra" (2010) and "Eonian" (2018) since. Vortex had a wonderful clean voice. His parts were what made Dimmu's music so unique. I don't listen to much Black Metal, but Dimmu Borgir is one of the few BM bands I can tolerate. Looking to maybe getting into Behemoth. But I'm not sure yet. Same goes for Death Metal. I don't have many DM bands but those I do have do enough time changes and breakdowns that keep the music interesting. I also don't care for a lot of that deep gutteral vocal style. That's just nof music to me, and I've been a Metalhead for almost 40 years. There's just some subgenres and styles I just do not care for. A lot of some of this newer stuff that goes into the Hardcore direction, i don't care for either. I couldn't even name you the bands because i haven't even heard of them before seeing them featured on other channels. I'm 51 years old and i'm actually starting to heavily gravitate towards the symphonic or neo-classical metal these days. I like me some good dueling harmonizing guitars. The band Italian power metal band Frozen Crown with three guitarists is really perking my interests here recently. Their solo section is rip roaring awesome with e neo-claasical sounding bits.
Another great metal song I love listening to music I'm an old school metal head I appreciate everything I listen to may I suggest a song called power of the night by a band named savatage this is one of the first songs that made me a metal head
Awesome reaction video! I was wondering if you two can react to The Contortionist - Thrive? The song has elements of jazz but primarly your typical heavy prog metal. It would be awesome to see your guy's view on the song. Thank you!
I haven't listened to much black metal so it was fun to have a first listen with Judson! I've only really been exposed to Cradle of Filth and idk if i could compare them to Dimmu Borgir...this is a little more symphonic and a little better imo. Anyway, on to the important stuff! Vulvodynia. Looked them up after I figured out what your shirt said, lol. There song Eulogy of Ashes is such an amazing tribute to Trevor and TBDM. Check it out if ypu haven't already. You'll dig it the most, Richard!
Nice choice here, prob one of their best songs. I want to add that imho metal and classic aren't that far apart from each other, esp when it comes to european/scandinavian metal (which feels way less groove-oriented than American styles). Given that it's a Norwegian orchestra, I'd guess most of those musicians know DB and a substantial number may even like them. Suggestions for completely different, flow-oriented black metal? Summoning - Kortirion Among The Trees Caladan Brood - City Of Azure Fire
Caladan Brood!!! But make it Wild Autum Wind, and let Judson get the lyrics on a sheet of paper so he can feel how the growls transmit the emotion, very melancholic lyrics and still beautiful!
Try Emperor's The loss and curse of reverence. I think it can be of some interest for a musician (the harmony, the melody and the structure are not trivial I think)
I'd like to recommend some early Enfold Darkness. Clear Dimmu Burger influences without the symphony. More focused on pushing the limits of blasting drums and shreddy guitars. From Nashvillle TN. Epic & Blackened but more modern and slightly less nerdy
A ton of old school Norwegian black metal has lifted it's names DIRECTLY from Tolkien. Like Burzum (meaning darkness in the tongue of Mordor) and Vargs moniker being Grishnakh who also has a song called "En Ring til å Herske" (one ring to rule). Shagrath here, Fenris' band Isengard, Gorgoroth etc etc Should also be mentioned that since Tolkien was deeply inspired by Norse myths, there is a very natural overlap there.
Also, I'm bummed he didn't like it😢. Totally okay, though. Maybe we should have warmed him up to this point until he "gets" different sub-genres of metal (e.g. start with Metallica, more easy listening until he develops the ear for it)? I don't know.
Really like your personal opinion on this🤗 it's not for Evertone. Esoecially you sho are in the great symphonic world yourself🙏 I love them, and the prevuose stuff they did for the last 23 years is awsome😎😎
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A whole ass choir still can’t replace Vortex’s gorgeous cleans.
True, but still impressive!!!
I was just thinking the same thing.
@@erwinamesz7642 *trve
so much the fuck this
ICS Vortex was the soul of the band. his vox truly cut through the mayhem and delivered the punch of the song.
without him, it's like, why bother
just go listen to borknagar
I saw them live when Vortex was still with them. ‘Twas amazing.
I was at this show! It was filmed in May 2011 in Oslo. I was in the front row. It was epic as F
Fuck yeah that's awesome dude!!!!
Fuck man HELLLLA JEALOUS
The orchestra, Kringkastingsorkesteret aka KORK (the national Norwegian radio orchestra) has many decades of history with a strong commitment to presenting contemporary Norwegian music across pretty much the entire musical spectrum. It's part of their mission and job description to play concerts like this. I'm sure the musicians enjoy some collaborations more than others but I think it's also safe to assume that KORK appeals particularly to musicians who are interested in working like that. The idea and initiative to this concert actually came from KORK and NRK (the national broadcaster with which KORK is affiliated). The orchestra had also contributed on a Dimmu Borgir record in the past.
13:07 A statement like that requires some context. I think the view and understanding of black metal in America is somewhat different from, say Norway for example. Religion and Christianity plays a much bigger role in the US compared to other, far more secular nations in the West and for that reason you see certain things through a different lens. I find that black metal and satanism are among those things that Americans typically see through the lens of Christianity as opposed to a secular perspective, or from the point of view of the phenomenon itself. I think it helps to come to the realisation that it is a uniquely Christian perspective - and a somewhat archaic one at that - to equate atheism or standing in opposition to organised religion as "the devils work" and labelling those people as the instruments of Satan. Most modern "satanism" is "satanic" only in the sense of standing in opposition to religion.
There are very few black metal bands that are genuinely satanic in the Christian understanding of the word. The vast majority of them are either just theatrical acts draped in a dark aesthetic (the genre can be full of fantasy stuff and quite "nerdy" so the parallell to Tolkien and LotR is not bad actually), or in the event that they actually subscribe to some form of Satanism it's typically along the lines of LaVeyan Satanism, which is essentially just a form of atheism which rejects the existence of anything supernatural (and that includes Satan too, naturally).
The Prague Symphony Orchestra that the metalhead guy mentions was the one used in the Death Cult Armageddon recording. Also, the live video credits say that they played live with the Prague orchestra in Wacken and with Kringkastingsorkesteret in Oslo, from which concert is this video.
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@Krakeloa Yes, I absolutely agree with what you've said. From my french point of view, I can say that there is tons of bands doing lovely black metal music, without ever coming close to any form of satanism (even the LaVeyan one). And they are not too difficult to find, you just have to dig a bit deeper than just the major bands like Mayhem, Burzum or Emperor. This stereotype comes from a few major bands in the 90s and now every black metal band suffers from it. I personally love Pénitence Onirique, they talk about alchemy (to express feelings), philosophy and society, and I'm kind of sick to hear people say it is satanism as soon as they see people wearing black clothes and black veil on their face. I get that it's not a music for everyone, but if you don't know, then don't judge. It's just what I am fighting for.
NRKs folk is the only radio station i still listen to
Fun fact: Shagrath (stage name for the singer) is the name of an orc from The Lord of the Rings. He chose this name because he loves the novels.
REALLY?!😃
I thought it was a coincidence.
Plenty of black metal bands have tolkein references. Gorgoroth is directly named after the plain of gorgoroth in mordor, and fenriz used to have a side band named Isengard
@@richardbourn5896or Summoning a band that literally bases their entire work around Tolkiens writing.
@@richardbourn5896 Carach Angren means The Black Gate, Amon Amarth means Mount Doom, Burzum means Darkness in black speech from the inscription on the one ring, etc etc etc. Yeah there are tons of Tolkien references in metal band names and songs.
One more fun fact, many of the places through out the map covering the Lord of the Rings land shares common names with norwegian local places.
If you see the whole concert, you'll see that some of the musicians really love it! They're headbanging and all.. ❤ watch the beginning in the concert 😊
Thank you so much, guys! I love this performance!
I was one of those who recommended this song.
It still seems really crazy to me how the orchestration was synchronized with the band.
The drummer is a swiss watch. The choir replacing the epic voice of ICS Vortex, brilliant work. The entire orchestra replacing the atmosphere of Mustis (former keyboardist/composer), I was speechless the first time I heard this live act. After the departure of him and ICS Vortex the band is not the same.
I love your channel, Rich and Jud. Great reaction, great measures!
The look on Judson's face throughout is such a picture. Always fun to see his boundaries pushed haha
it'd be better if he went slower and had a more comprehensive background
not sure other guy is doing him or metal justice
Thank you for reacting to my favourite song by Dimmu Borgir ( dark fortress, or Citadel in Icelandic),I’ve seen them live multiple times and this is by far most iconic song. This song has a really sad story behind it. Apparently their original keyboard Mustis wrote this piece of music on piano and wanted to have the copyright to it but Shagrath who sings for Dimmu Borgir said no and fired him via text message.
I never knew this information about Mustis :(
Just goes to show you how much of a masterpiece this song is. Originally crafted on a grand piano by 1 guy, turns into a full metal band with full orchestra
@@metaldrummersonly4402 that’s why it’s my favourite song
Worth listening to the guy himself and his solo piano version. Mustis, Vortex and Nic Barker to a lesser extent were key in making some of Dimmu's best albums.
ruclips.net/video/4s88vxHjWrs/видео.html
You forgot the part where Mustis blackmailed them and held some files hostage. That's why they actually fired him
The Orchestra is "Kringkastingsorkestret" , or the national broadcasting orchestra in translation to english. It's among the top symphonic orchestras in the world.
Yeah, Norwegian band, and Norwegian orchestra, playing in Oslo.
Yes dude! I been waiting for this one
A whole orchestra still can’t replace Mustis's EPIC arrangements/playing . just one man......
Dimmu with Mustis, Vortex and Nick were such a powerhouse. Shame it couldn't last longer.
ruclips.net/video/4s88vxHjWrs/видео.html
I was looking for this comment! And a whole choir could not replace ICS Vortex… it was such a grand song with both of them, I remember my jaw on the first time I listened to this song
This is much fucking better than Mustis lmao, it's not even close.
@@LordComradeAnarchoCapitalus what?
Dimmu Borgir are amazing, I would highly suggest "The insight and the catharsis" and "Kings of the carnival creation", album versions. I'd love to see what Judson could do with them.
Exactly! And Sympozium! Every Dimmu album has a distinct style/sound so any time someone hears them I always want them to hear their other albums as well, to show their variety and range of sound.
I was in love with this band back in middle school/ High School lol. So epic, so bad ass hahaha.
First off, thank you so much for using my suggestion! Wanted to make sure I watched the whole video before I said anything else
Spot on saying Judson is the friend we get to show all our metal songs to... I love the look on his face when he first heard the vocals. Same face my ex gfs Mom made at that exact moment 🤣🤣🤣
So true though. You gotta love the music you're playing so you can put your 100% effort and creativity into the piece. Very nicely said. I am just so happy that Jud got to check out Symphonic Black metal. You guys are amazing!!! Keep up the good work. I enjoy watching these videos after a long day of work
P.s. doesn't have to be filmed but show Judson the Mustis piano version of this song.... Grand Piano only. No orchestra. No guitar or drums. No vocals ;)) This song lives rent free in my head
First metal show my brother took me to, at Atlanta’s original Masquerade…. I’d been listening since I was ten, the absolute metalhead catharsis of the show was amazing.
YES!!!! I was one of the people recommending this to you. This is the band who got me into classical music in the first place, and I'm very thankfull It did. If I knew beforehand that Judson would have appreciated it more if he knew that the orchestra or the choir liked what they were playing I would have recommended another song though, namely: Dimmu Borgir - Mourning Palace (Live Forces of the Northern Night / Wacken open air 2012). I never saw Lord of the rings, I don't like fantasy, but I can imagine the music from Dimmu being a soundtrack. Their scores are truly epic, or majestic and with that, Shagrath's voice being all gurgly (as Judson called it) fits right in. With this wall of sound, no clean voice could ever add to the music, it would get lost in all the sounds produced by, in this case, about 100 people, 50 orchestra and 50 choir plus the bandmembers. Surely a musical prodigy, as Judson seems to be, could appreciate the theatrics of it all, including the blastbeats holding the rhythm, the ensemble of the guitars and bass running along with all the horns and trumpets and voices from the choir.
I've been a follower of Dimmu for a long time, and in their early days the orchestral part of their music was played by only syntersizers and computerstuff, this is the upgraded version, and I like it! I have the special edition of this album, including DVD/bluray and the extras-disc, which features a documentary about the preparations for this performance. It's remarkable how many microphones it needed, they had 3 different sound-vans all working together to make Band - Orchestra - Choir sound great together. And the repetitions with the band and the orchestra, with the conductor of the orchestra remarking that it would be difficult for the musicians in his orchestra to play along with the drummer, since he's quite fast, so funny.
Well, I am very glad you found yourself reacting to Dimmu and sharing it with us, but don't stop here, get to know The Mourning Palace as previously mentioned, or other great performances like Gateways or The Serpentine offering, all live performed of course. It will be a trip, I assure you! Thank you for this! Proceed Richard!
The Czech National Philharmonic Movie Orchestra was just used to record the album which this song was on back in 2003.
If the band performs live, they just look around what orchestra is available.
In Oslo it was probably the Orchestra that works for the Norwegian TV channel NRK.
Omg you guys actually did it!
I have to admit, it pains a little when people choose this version, because even though it's of course impressive live, it misses three people that make this track: Vortex' solo signing, to me, trumps any choir version of it. Mustis' amazing piano is badly mixed in, and all of Nic Barker's amazing details in his drumwork are basically not there. (Admittedly he played on other tracks where that shows more clearly.)
Having said that, cool you guys chose it. It's funny to me because I never liked this singing style until I came across Dimmu and the compositions were so awesome I sortof put up with the vocals, and now, man, can't even imagine *not* liking these vocals anymore lol. Also I think the session musicians probably largely enjoy their own parts at least and being in a live show in and of itself, tis quite an experience after all either way. So that probably gets them through even if they don't care for metal much.
Listen to "Gateways"next by Dimmu. The live version.
Incredible song😱😱😱😱😱
You’ve made my inner 15 year old Goth happy with this video, thanks 😙
My go-to Dimmu song is Broderskapets Ring, the 2005 version 🤘🏻
I am sooo stoked that you had him watch this!!!!!!!
Oh I was there at that show and seeing this still gives me goosebumps to this day. The choir and orchestra are the same as they used on that album btw. This was a one time event, though not entirely true, they did a similar show once at Wacken where they used another choir and orchestra. So both the shows are part of the "Forces of the Northern Night". This video was in Oslo and that show they used a Norwegian Orchestra. The Czech Orchestra was used at the Wacken show. Another great song from this show is "Gateways". It also has a guest vocalist, who, erm, might surprise you ;)
Dimmu Borgir or black metal in general is not my main jam, but they have their moments. It would be absolute joy for me if you guys could check out their song ”Kings of the carnival creation”. Its a good one i promise. And cheers from Finland, love your channel.
Definitely! The album version is a must. In fact, I think Judson would enjoy the strings in IndoctriNation and Hybrid Stigmata more.
Honestly, I would say the World Misanthropy version is the best, because thats what got me to love a good blast beat :D. (Thanks Nick!)
@@Darker_Waters Album version in _every_ case. Live versions almost never sound as clear, especially with metal bands.
Dimmu is not black metal. If you want to check out something new in the black metal genra try "Witch Club Satan". crazy good liveshow and one of the next bands you will hear about in the future.
@@Darker_Waters They are not black metal anymore. They used to, but nowdays they make crap that got nothing to do with black metal. Listen to the difference in older albums and the newer ones. It's far from black metal in the last two albums. I consider In Sorte Diabolii as the last black metal album they released and so does most of the community. You can belive you're listening to black metal all you want, but it does not make it true. They have moved further and further away from black metal and all elements that make the genra black metal. If you can't hear that, you don't know your music well.
Sound quality, lol.. Alright buddy
How about introducing Oranssi Pazuzu to Judson?
Hell yeah
Yeeesssss!!!! Thanks guys!!!!
Their live performance of Gateways is also stellar
Another suggestion is also from Forces of the Northern Night, 'Gateways.'
Would be interesting to see how he would feel about Archspire, they are all incredibly talented musicians.
As long as he can appreciate why people like it, he can say it’s not for him. I’m glad he at least gave it its chance.
Not all but some of the orchestra and choir members did enjoy themselves I'm sure. There are interviews from these shows and some of the musicians are fans of Dimmu. Thanks for doing this one. Both shows were great.
Cradle of Filth - Her Ghost in the Fog
Love the intros
Greetings from Guam! Awesome! Please do Scorched Earth Erotica by Cradle of Filth and Aidus by Eluvetie and The Vampire From Nazareth from SepticFlesh.
That show/Blu-ray/DVD SepticFlesh did with a live orchestra in Mexico is really good. I agree it's worth checking out one of the tracks from that live show even though I suspect he won't like the vocals on those either.
I like how he tried to find the key at the very end of the song. Good timing haha
Great video! Awesome song awesome band.
King Diamond/Mercyful Fate should be a must.
Wintersun and Cradle of Filth should be on radar!
Satan’s Fall is a masterpiece.
@@3PumpChumper The entire album is a masterpiece \m/
You should watch mourning palace live at wacken open air it’s disc two of the same dvd this song came from.
"Demon burger"
I also affectionately call them, digmybooger.
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How did I never hear of this Judson guy or was he post 2000?
ICS Vortex work w/ Arcturus is fun
I hope Judson plays a christmas camel on piano on christmas. What a gift that would be for us
Satyricon - Phoenix feat. Sivert Høyem. Put it to yours To-Do list. Thanks.
The chech Orchestra was at Wacken. This is the Norwegian Broadcast Orchestra with the same choir. The most famous in Norway. 92 people on stage.
this is extent .... I miss this
A Lord of the Rings musical you say... Blind Guardian's album "Nightfall in Middle-Earth" is for you.
When you need an entire choir to replace Simen/ICS Vortex.
It's the norwegian brodcasting orchestra on this consert. On a bunch of their albums thei have worked with the Prague symphonic wich is probably where you got that their where Czechs,
Anyway love your reactions and it's fun to see you do a norwegian band as I am norwefian. Maybe you could do Gateways by Dimmu Borgir from tha same show think that would be awsome and that you would enjoy it even more!
I don’t think he will ever get extreme metal, if you don’t like harsh vocals and heavy distortion there is no point in even trying.
Aw man why the live version? Live metal never sounds as clear. Especially with thick mixes with so many sounds like this.
To the mountains?
Disc 1 contains the entire Oslo show performed together with Kringkastingsorkestret (the Norwegian Radio Orchestra and Choir) in 2011.
Disc 2 contains the performance at Wacken Open Air with the National Czech Symphonic Orchestra in 2012.
Both discs had the same song list, not sure which one this is. I'm guessing it's the Oslo one, because I didn't spot the Wacken logo anywhere, thye usually have that very clearly on the side of the stage.
Anyway, I always wonder what playing in a show like this is for the classical musicians. I would guess pretty small percentage of them are familiar even with the band itself before the show, let alone a fan of them.
This is from Oslo, performed in Oslo Spektrum arena/concert hall.
I like the review better and the professional way this pianist reacts to the song.
GATEWAYS!!!
AAAAA!!!!!!!! My self found it SO LATE :DDDDDD
Do Styricon - K.I.N.G ~ PLEASE
IT'S ICONIC ~ I PROMISE
:)
I even didn't know ...
If you want Tolkien inspired Black metal band from Norway, you gotta check out Summoning 😄
Just found you guys tonight. Great reaction! Love this band. Would love to see Judson react to Fleshgod Apocalypse - Epilogue!
Next should be Gateways!!
Try Blind Guardian's Nightfall in Middle-Earth album.
Any Morbid Angel, at any point??
there is a video of this title played on tm piano by Mustis, the group's former pianist.
Check out this song played only on grand piano by Mustis,(ex- keyboard player) who actually wrote it! Dimmu Borgir - Progenies of the Great Apocalypse - Mustis Unplugged - the name for You on You tube
Mourning Palace would be one obvious choice from Dimmu Borgir
The list is endless
Great band.
If u get dimmu borgir, then I'm happy for you because that means that you have been where I have, and have seen the wonders of the universe ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Love this! Can you do Satyricon - Mother North, live at the opera!
Cradle of Filth - 13 autumns and a widow, let's go
noooooo where was Vortex?
How about Carach Angren???
volvodynia shirt nice breh!
Apocalypse Orchestra would be an awesome band to do (no actual orchestra, but they do have a choir a lot). They're sort of folky doom metal. Heavy, slow and melodic. Mostly clean singing. 'The Great Mortality' or 'The Garden of Earthly Delights' would be good first time songs.
The choir-sung part was originally sung by their bassist ICS Vortex which quit the band in 2009. The band has only released 2 albums "Abrahadabra" (2010) and "Eonian" (2018) since. Vortex had a wonderful clean voice. His parts were what made Dimmu's music so unique. I don't listen to much Black Metal, but Dimmu Borgir is one of the few BM bands I can tolerate. Looking to maybe getting into Behemoth. But I'm not sure yet. Same goes for Death Metal. I don't have many DM bands but those I do have do enough time changes and breakdowns that keep the music interesting. I also don't care for a lot of that deep gutteral vocal style. That's just nof music to me, and I've been a Metalhead for almost 40 years. There's just some subgenres and styles I just do not care for. A lot of some of this newer stuff that goes into the Hardcore direction, i don't care for either. I couldn't even name you the bands because i haven't even heard of them before seeing them featured on other channels. I'm 51 years old and i'm actually starting to heavily gravitate towards the symphonic or neo-classical metal these days. I like me some good dueling harmonizing guitars. The band Italian power metal band Frozen Crown with three guitarists is really perking my interests here recently. Their solo section is rip roaring awesome with e neo-claasical sounding bits.
Septicflesh did a similar concert with a orchestra and I feel like because of how they write it's very welcome and not just a show.
You must react to the insight and the catharsis live at wacken 2007
Another great metal song I love listening to music I'm an old school metal head I appreciate everything I listen to may I suggest a song called power of the night by a band named savatage this is one of the first songs that made me a metal head
Or maybe Sirens or Grace of the witch by Savatage.🤟
You guys should do the official video for a photic doom, by cattle decapitation.
react to "the insight and the catharsis" live version please, i want u to react to mustis (dimmu former keyboardist)
Galdar is the powerhouse in that band. We need another Old Man's Child album.
"You sure Tolkien didn't write these guys?" Could not be closer to the truth. :D
Awesome reaction video! I was wondering if you two can react to The Contortionist - Thrive? The song has elements of jazz but primarly your typical heavy prog metal. It would be awesome to see your guy's view on the song. Thank you!
2:02 "These guys out of *_The Lord of the Rings_* or something?" 😁
Show him "By the hands of violent winter" by Illnath
I'd recommend Anubis by Septicflesh live version with orchestra
Shagrath is an orc commander in tolkien
"Demiu Borír"... so difficult to say "DIMU"??????????????????????????????????????????????????
I haven't listened to much black metal so it was fun to have a first listen with Judson! I've only really been exposed to Cradle of Filth and idk if i could compare them to Dimmu Borgir...this is a little more symphonic and a little better imo. Anyway, on to the important stuff! Vulvodynia. Looked them up after I figured out what your shirt said, lol. There song Eulogy of Ashes is such an amazing tribute to Trevor and TBDM. Check it out if ypu haven't already. You'll dig it the most, Richard!
Dimmu and Cradle shared a drummer for a long time, their music isnt so far apart.
Judson seems to know his Tolkien. How about some Blind Guardian, perhaps Time Stands Still (At the Iron Hill)?
Nice choice here, prob one of their best songs.
I want to add that imho metal and classic aren't that far apart from each other, esp when it comes to european/scandinavian metal (which feels way less groove-oriented than American styles). Given that it's a Norwegian orchestra, I'd guess most of those musicians know DB and a substantial number may even like them.
Suggestions for completely different, flow-oriented black metal?
Summoning - Kortirion Among The Trees
Caladan Brood - City Of Azure Fire
Caladan Brood!!! But make it Wild Autum Wind, and let Judson get the lyrics on a sheet of paper so he can feel how the growls transmit the emotion, very melancholic lyrics and still beautiful!
Hey rich did u listen to any MURDERDOLLS ?...u might dig em... Has joey from slipknot in it
Would love to see a reaction to ARD and their song „Raise The The Incorrupt Body“. Amazing Doom Metal!
I think your friend is gonna like the piano version of this song by Mustis
Just waiting to see when you delve to the real 90s classics like Darkthrone or Emperor
Try Emperor's The loss and curse of reverence. I think it can be of some interest for a musician (the harmony, the melody and the structure are not trivial I think)
I'd like to recommend some early Enfold Darkness.
Clear Dimmu Burger influences without the symphony. More focused on pushing the limits of blasting drums and shreddy guitars. From Nashvillle TN.
Epic & Blackened but more modern and slightly less nerdy
A ton of old school Norwegian black metal has lifted it's names DIRECTLY from Tolkien. Like Burzum (meaning darkness in the tongue of Mordor) and Vargs moniker being Grishnakh who also has a song called "En Ring til å Herske" (one ring to rule). Shagrath here, Fenris' band Isengard, Gorgoroth etc etc
Should also be mentioned that since Tolkien was deeply inspired by Norse myths, there is a very natural overlap there.
Also, I'm bummed he didn't like it😢. Totally okay, though. Maybe we should have warmed him up to this point until he "gets" different sub-genres of metal (e.g. start with Metallica, more easy listening until he develops the ear for it)? I don't know.
You should check on Nightwish's Ghost love score Live end of an era :D
Look at him wincing....😅😂
Shagrath is the name of an Orc in the tower of Cirith Ungol adjacent to Mordor.
So quite right you were:)
Really like your personal opinion on this🤗 it's not for Evertone. Esoecially you sho are in the great symphonic world yourself🙏 I love them, and the prevuose stuff they did for the last 23 years is awsome😎😎
Just imagine you’re getting ready to battle a giant fucking evil army in The Lord of the Rings. Unleash. Now you get it! 😂