Dell PowerEdge R410 build PART 2 | storage controller options

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  • Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2024

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  • @SV-lw8jo
    @SV-lw8jo 3 года назад +4

    Finally, someone who explained and showed each step. Thank you! You have no idea how much this video helped me.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  3 года назад +2

      Thanks! Glad to hear this was helpful!

  • @limitedblkwrx
    @limitedblkwrx Год назад +1

    Thank you for this, I purchased the Dell SAS6i/R card from your ebay store, installed it and everything is working great.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  Год назад +1

      Great to hear! Thank you for supporting my store! :-)

  • @aaronjohnson8715
    @aaronjohnson8715 4 года назад

    This video has been the most helpful youtube video I've watched in months. I just discovered I can use a SAS drive I accidentally ordered in my r410 as well as cancel my order of a 4TB sata and reorder a sas drive.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  4 года назад

      awesome! glad it helped you out! :-)

  • @hitmandahl
    @hitmandahl 4 года назад

    Just bought an R410 with dual Xeon E5520 and 16GB of RAM! Your vids will probably come in handy!

  • @gnomishworks
    @gnomishworks 2 года назад +2

    Another alternative is to obtain a Dell P459G cable, which allows 4 large TB drives to be connected to the motherboard. I picked one up for $15 and the DVD to SSD tray you mentioned.
    That gives you everything you need for $25 and leaves the single slot available for a GPU for Plex or other purposes.
    You lose hot swapping, but for home use this should not be an issue. I have 4 x 6TB SATA drives and an SSD boot drive in the DVD bay with no issues.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      That's actually a great idea! The R410 I have all came with backplanes, but you could remove that and just cable directly to each drive with that cable. Although, for me, I really like hot swap capability... I don't think I have non-hotswap drive bays in any server or PC in many years.

  • @TristensMadness
    @TristensMadness 4 года назад +2

    Hey @ArtOfServer, I just want to say thanks for teaching me how to use FreeDOS to flash the SAS 6/iR into I.T. mode. I heard people could do it, but I didnt know how. By removing the H200 my R410 "OmegaServer" had it allowed me to install a second 10GbE Card in, giving Windows 10 a proper ethernet connection. For some reason I can't find drivers for the integrated Ethernet ports (BroadComm NetXtreme II BCM5716C) preventing me from using them with Windows 10 Pro. I'm using this as a simple NAS and with Windows, Configuring and setting up the server are much easier.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  4 года назад +2

      Glad that helped! :-) Thanks for watching!

  • @gdmax5
    @gdmax5 Год назад +1

    Thanks a lot for all the grate tips for the community

  • @jsmart377
    @jsmart377 Год назад +1

    I really like you POV style video, Are you using a Hero ? If so what mount or support are you using to get both hands free?? thanks and keep these coming!!

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  Год назад

      Thanks! yes, this was done when I used to use a GoPro Hero 5 black and session. It was mounted upside down on a head band strap and basically positioned a little bit above between my eyes. I've since moved on from using GoPros as their image quality isn't great for indoor use. I'm currently trying to find a better solution for PoV using a mirrorless camera that has better image quality.

    • @jsmart377
      @jsmart377 Год назад

      @@ArtofServer thanks so much for the insight. I would be very interested to know what you end up going with. I am trying to do something similar for networking POV builds. Thanks again!

  • @goodwinml
    @goodwinml Год назад +1

    I have multiple Dell R210v2's. I use one for PfSense, 1 at my shop being used right not as a controller running windows 10 for my Shapeoko XXL CNC Router and 2 that are just sitting around. I also have a Rosewell 4U 12 Bay Hot Swap chassis running UnRaid. I want to maybe use a spare R210 for another UnRaid box. I would need a JBOD attached 12 - 24 bay to go along with the 2 internal 3.5" drives and 1 internal USB for USB Drive for UnRaid. Could you do a video building a SAS JBOD using say a Rosewill 4U 15 bay or any full size PC case? Great videos. Lots of great info. Glad I stumbled on your vids.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  Год назад +1

      Those are all very useful machines still. Thanks for watching my content and I hope you'll find some of it helpful to you! :-)

    • @goodwinml
      @goodwinml Год назад

      @@ArtofServer , do you have a video or maybe make one for this example, to my last question about a jbod sas 12 - 15 bay generic 4u chassis?

  • @wilsmith7173
    @wilsmith7173 Год назад +1

    thanks for the info, just updated my SAS 6 on my R310. Close to junking it but might get a few more bucks for it

  • @SenorRobertFixit
    @SenorRobertFixit 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge I have been watching many of your videos I see it is easy to follow, I am a beginner in Servers, Although I am a gamer and build my own builds as you would say enthusiast. I have started with a 42 U rack system and I have EdgeRouter Pro and Gateway and 24 port Switches and way to manage all that hardware, my interest is now focused on servers bought my first one Dell R820, I am very eager to learn all that I can learn. Thank you again.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  4 года назад +1

      You are very welcome! Glad some of my videos have been helpful to you! thanks for watching!

  • @oso2k
    @oso2k 4 года назад +1

    Curious, I wonder if performance with cheap SATA drives make a different for the performance. FreeNAS performance tests would be awesome as well.

  • @CraigTinson2015
    @CraigTinson2015 2 месяца назад +1

    Hi there.. I was looking for some advice... I bought a PERC H310 card for my R410... presuming it would be fine... but am having troubles installing it.. it came with a riser... so I removed the existing one and put that in.. but then the R410 complains about no riser... is this even do-able? or am I wasting my time? the cable that came with the H310 doesn't fit... so even if I did manage to get it installed... would I need the N262J cable you mentioned in this video? Thanks

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 месяца назад

      I think you are better off putting the original PCIe riser back into the R410, and using the components described in this video. Not the stuff you've mentioned. That's the easiest way to get things working.

  • @TheDemaggi
    @TheDemaggi 4 года назад +2

    One hour in. I just like how informative these videos are. Keep it up! Just crazy idea thought, if the card (lets say H200) would physically fit in to the integradet slot would it be possible to just flash the cards spr to the dell integradet one to make it work in the integradet slot. Sure its only x4 and not x8, but wouldn't it be awesome to upgrade the controller and have the pci-e slot.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  4 года назад

      Thanks for watching!
      Unfortunately, any normal PCIe card won't work in the integrated storage slot. First, the SAS lanes are not run through the PCIe slot, and the heatsink would block the use of the normal PCIe slot above it, so it wouldn't be advantageous in any way.

  • @gizitoaleksiev
    @gizitoaleksiev 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Great video series for r410. I know this is pretty old video, but I have some thoughts. I flashed the IT firmware on my SAS6 card. All good. I am testing 4TB SATA drive. On post SAS controller report report 2047GB, so as in SAS configuration. But in Windows Disk Manager it reports it as 3760GB(4TB). Can this be relevant, and will it work normal. Should I just go for it? Any opinion will be appreciated. Best wishes

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  6 месяцев назад

      Just go for it! I think the old SAS-1 BIOS ROM program doesn't know how to handle the 64bit LBAs so it reports incorrectly. But as a IT mode firmware card, the OS can handle it directly and knows how to handle large LBAs. For more on this topic, watch this video: ruclips.net/video/u55vIGMzzKw/видео.htmlsi=-mHNtx26glQBcaMD

  • @wildmanjeff42
    @wildmanjeff42 4 года назад +1

    awesome thanks for the video. love IT SAS with ZFS on freenas.

  • @cajunzman
    @cajunzman 2 года назад +1

    I know this is an old video and very informative. Thank you. I would just like to point out when you swapped to the h200 definitely looks like the power is still live to the system making me wait for a spark when the sas cables went to flopping around lol

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      Thanks. No, the power was off. It may have been plugged in, so the idrac and BMC are powered on, but the main system is off. The PCIe slot had no power when I was swapping the card.

  • @MikeDeVincentis
    @MikeDeVincentis 2 года назад +1

    I have an R410 with no RAID card and drives connected directly to the SATA ports on the board. Does that riser card support adding a 10gig NIC by any chance?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      I think it is possible, just note that this system is PCIe 2.0 only.

  • @niche_creation
    @niche_creation 3 месяца назад +1

    In your or anyones opinion, I have a R410 which I have been getting up and running to serve as an AMP game server and i currently only have 3tb dell SAS drives laying around and the original 1068E board, is there a way to flash that card? Space isnt an issue as even 8tb (if they are seen as 2tb) is goof for what I need, will i have problems later on doing it this way?
    Love these guides by the way!

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  3 месяца назад

      Did you watch this video yet? Everything you're asking is answered in this video... ??? I'm confused with your question.

    • @niche_creation
      @niche_creation 3 месяца назад

      @@ArtofServer you know what, you're right. I was hasty and didnt finish the whole video. Thank you for this video.

  • @bulcub
    @bulcub 4 года назад +1

    excellent video, I'm going with the first option and use SAS drives. can I use the free slot for 10gb or 1gb connections.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  4 года назад

      Cool! glad this video helped you! yes, you can add 10Gb NIC to that slot if you wish, do try to choose a low power one tough to reduce heat.

  • @McCuneWindandSolar
    @McCuneWindandSolar 4 года назад +2

    I had that happen I had a card that only half the drives worked when adding more drives. After resetting the cables on more time every thing came good.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  4 года назад

      i know... it happens to me more times than I'd like to admit. LOL

  • @jamesklinger1039
    @jamesklinger1039 3 года назад +1

    Im working with my TrueNas server, I have a H700 installed i have not flashed it to IT mode (is that possible?) In order to get TrueNas to see the disks i needed to create a Virtual Disk in raid 0 for each disk. The only problem is in TrueNas i cannot get any SMART information. Is it possible to flash this card to IT mode?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  3 года назад

      As of today, I don't know of a method to flash the H700 to IT mode. It is a different chipset that does not have IT firmware. The lack of SMART in TrueNAS with the H700 is actually a TrueNAS/FreeBSD driver issue, which I explained in more detail in this other video: ruclips.net/video/BgOcCCAzHiY/видео.html .
      The easiest solution might be to do as shown in this video and use a IT mode controller like the H200.

  • @bulcub
    @bulcub 3 года назад +1

    Idrac remote console will not open with chrome? is there anything missing? do I need a 64bit browser?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  3 года назад

      sounds like you might need to watch this: ruclips.net/video/drhSo9Xl9M0/видео.html

  • @Magicairsoft9
    @Magicairsoft9 4 года назад +1

    Why actually is not possible to use this “white slot” for H200 modular- which looks similar to SAS 6/ir modular, but somehow is incompatible? Did you test this up? Maybe with another firmware- I would definitelly use the 6Gbit on r410 with one free pcie slot for networking. In present time I have got 3 of these with 10Gbit card in pcie slot and the “slow as hell SAS 6/ir” in white one.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  4 года назад

      yes, indeed.. i did look at the H200 modular... first, it doesn't actually fit without modifying a few things... which i've actually done to make it fit. but i think the way the PCIe slot is used to run both actual PCIe lanes + SAS lanes is different vs the SAS6i/R. So the H200 modular just ends up with PCIe training error because it can't connect the PCIe card's lanes correctly.
      did you see my benchmark results in this video? if anything, the SAS6i/R performed just as well as H200, and in some places a little bit faster? that SASi/R is no slacker...

    • @Magicairsoft9
      @Magicairsoft9 4 года назад

      @@ArtofServer Thanks for your answer. I think it has the same chipset with only difference is the bus- 6Gbit/3Gbit.

  • @jamesklinger1039
    @jamesklinger1039 3 года назад

    Do you have a video on installing the H700 card? Is it the same slot you use for the H200?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  3 года назад +1

      It is pretty much the same as the H200 except that the H700 is larger.

    • @jamesklinger1039
      @jamesklinger1039 3 года назад

      @@ArtofServer awesome i did find another video by Deep Roots Gaming, I just really didnt know what to do with the battery. I love your videos, keep them coming. My home lab is now upto 5 Dell servers i got for cheap on eBay. 2 old R610s and i just bought my 3rd R410. Its amazing how you can find these beefy servers so cheap on eaby. I haven't paid more than 200$ for any of them.

  • @TheNagy9
    @TheNagy9 4 года назад

    So it was subtle but at 26:25 or so you ran the sasflash program in centos. Where did you get that version of the software?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  4 года назад

      All LSI utilities are available for download from broadcom.com.

  • @TheKiller7276
    @TheKiller7276 4 года назад +1

    If only I had known then lol. I ended up using that PCI slot for a PERC6 Raid controller for my 4 drives in RAID 5. I still have the SAS6i/R. Is anything I cool I can do by still having it installed with IT mode and use the PERC6 or no?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  4 года назад

      Not exactly sure I understand your ? But the PERC6/I can't handle > 2TB HDDs, even with SAS. And if you use the SAS6i/R in IT mode instead of the PERC6, you free up a PCIe slot.

  • @gnomishworks
    @gnomishworks 2 года назад +1

    oh AND you keep the slot available for a graphics card for Plex, etc

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      indeed. that's another good use case too if you don't need to expand the storage of the R410.

  • @RaduPopescu000
    @RaduPopescu000 4 года назад

    You mentioned that the bottom white PCIe expansion slot is a generation 1 (or at least that is what I understood). What about the normal top one: is that a PCIe Gen2 x16?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  4 года назад

      Actually, the storage slot is likely PCIe 2.0 too, but the SAS6i/R card is a PCIe 1.0 card so it runs at 1.0 speeds. The normal PCIe slot is a 2.0 x16 slot. Thanks for watching!

  • @Jacob-pn2yp
    @Jacob-pn2yp 3 года назад

    What's the max disk size for a sas drive if you had 4 of them in a R410 in IT mode?
    I got this same server and same controller a little while ago, still setting things up.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  3 года назад

      Watch this: ruclips.net/video/u55vIGMzzKw/видео.html

  • @JerryHancock
    @JerryHancock 2 года назад

    I just bought a r710 with the 2.5 i bays, watching your videos on how to set it up and update, but might just have to pay someone to do that, if you that for people let me know ty

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      Are you watching the R710 series? That might be more helpful to you than this R410 series.

    • @JerryHancock
      @JerryHancock 2 года назад

      @@ArtofServer yes saved them to rewatch them again, going to watch and write them down as i go so i can learn better how to do it
      i learn faster by reading instructions

  • @nurrokk5642
    @nurrokk5642 2 года назад

    Found your video after just purchasing a R410 and wanting to use 8TB sas drives. I went step by step and verified everything was done properly but bios and linux are still showing the drives at 2TB. Any suggestions?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      Which SAS controller option are you using?

    • @nurrokk5642
      @nurrokk5642 2 года назад

      @@ArtofServer Using the LSI SAS 1068E(B3)

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      @@nurrokk5642 and you converted the controller to IT mode firmware like in this video?

    • @nurrokk5642
      @nurrokk5642 2 года назад

      @@ArtofServer Correct. I have exactly the same setup as you do in the video just with 3 - 8TB drives. Followed all the steps exactly and confirmed it is showing as a LSI Logic device and still has the SAS address

    • @CraigTinson2015
      @CraigTinson2015 3 месяца назад

      @@nurrokk5642where did you get the tools to convert this to IT mode? I couldn't find the option on the broadcom website.

  • @WilliamSupples
    @WilliamSupples 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the helpful in-depth video on storage option on the r410! Just placed my order for the 6/iR card and cable from your ebay store.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  4 года назад

      Glad I could help! Thank you for your support!

  • @patrickjenner3211
    @patrickjenner3211 4 года назад

    Hi, I'm looking at buying some of these used for use as a NAS. Can you put 8TB drives in them?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  4 года назад

      I think I answered that question in this video???

    • @patrickjenner3211
      @patrickjenner3211 4 года назад

      @@ArtofServer Sorry, I meant can you change the little controller card, to one that'll handle sata over 2TB? SAS is very expensive.

  • @xtreamdev3817
    @xtreamdev3817 3 года назад

    Excellent video but now I have a need to go back to the dell firmware does anyone have the source files and procedure to revert back.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  3 года назад

      I'm sure it is possible, but I don't have a procedure for that. You would basically do the reverse process using the Dell firmware.

  • @szubert
    @szubert 4 года назад

    What if I'm looking for moving to 6 GB/s instead of 3 GB/s with 6i/R and want to stay in ingratiated slot? Will the PERC H700 Integrated be OK? Somebody know that H700 can work in IT mode? And last, is that true that modular version of PERC H700 will not fit to rR10?

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  4 года назад

      I'm not sure I fully understand your question? Are you asking how to move to 6Gbps (SAS-2) but still remain using RAID card instead of IT mode HBA card? If so, use the normal Dell H200 Integrated in the regular PCIe slot like I showed in this video, just not with the IT mode firmware. The stock H200 is usually IR mode only.
      I don't know about H700, it might work, but never tried it.

    • @szubert
      @szubert 4 года назад

      ​@@ArtofServer Thanks for responding. What I want to have is SAS-2 via controller plugged in an integrated (white) slot (disks plugged to backplain/riser card) AND have a IT/HBA mode (needed for ZFS). The PCI-E slot which is only one in R410, I need to have free for 10Gbit/s NIC.
      Somebody tell me I'm wrong, but at this moment I know that H200 as integrated card version is not supported by R410 (only adapter is suitable, so then only a black PCI-E slot is the right one). Another controller with SAS 6Gbps and appearing as integrated version is H700, which can be plugged in integrated white slot to R410, but as far as I know it hasn't support true passthrough and it can't be flashed to IT/HBA mode.
      So I'm standing before hard decision about future of my beloved R410 now. If anyone has a solution for me, it will be very kind. Thanks.

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  4 года назад

      @@szubert I don't know of a H700 in the "square" integrated format... the H200 that shares that format as the SAS6i/R does not work and is wired differently even though physically can be made to fit (I tried). I only know of H700 that is a PCIe adapter and integrated adapter (still a PCIe card, just with special subsystem ID).
      I don't know of a SAS-2 card that plugs into the "white" integrated slot.

  • @jimmypearce8702
    @jimmypearce8702 4 года назад

    Can you help me I'm trying to run 4 monitors using pxe

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  4 года назад

      Wait, what do you mean? Can you elaborate?

    • @jimmypearce8702
      @jimmypearce8702 4 года назад

      @@ArtofServer I'm trying to connect 4 computer monitors on it with each monitor having their own account. I'm planning on using the 2019 Windows Server software but don't know where to go from there completed.

  • @osciuto
    @osciuto 4 года назад

    Ciao ho un problema con un server Dell Power Edge t710 puoi aiutarmi, posso contattarti in privato grazie.

  • @niklasp.5847
    @niklasp.5847 4 года назад

    Hey this "complicated" procedure is not necessary. jou just need to copy the whole folder over and start the hbaflash.bat. the bat asks you for ethrything you need

  • @gnomishworks
    @gnomishworks 2 года назад

    It appears that only favoured responses are allowed

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  2 года назад

      not sure what you mean? if you posted a comment and it is no longer here, it could be because youtube removed it (for whatever reason the algorithm decided to do that). or if you posted something inappropriate or offensive, i may have removed it.

    • @gnomishworks
      @gnomishworks 2 года назад

      @@ArtofServer Another alternative is to obtain a Dell P459G cable, which allows 4 large TB drives to be connected to the motherboard. I picked one up for $15 and the DVD to SSD tray you mentioned.
      That gives you everything you need for $25 and leaves the single slot available for a GPU for Plex or other purposes.
      You loose hot swapping, but for home use this should not be an issue. I have 4 x 6TB SATA drives and an SSD boot drive in the DVD bay with no issues.
      Not sure why RUclips would delete this post, but who knows.

  • @oso2k
    @oso2k 4 года назад +1

    tmux!

  • @UnkyjoesPlayhouse
    @UnkyjoesPlayhouse 4 года назад

    3rd :)

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  4 года назад

      ??? What does that mean ???

    • @UnkyjoesPlayhouse
      @UnkyjoesPlayhouse 4 года назад

      @@ArtofServer means I am the 3rd person to comment :)

    • @ArtofServer
      @ArtofServer  4 года назад

      @@UnkyjoesPlayhouse lol! :-)