Very informative video.👍 I bought a 9207-8i off Australian ebay site just over a year ago. In the listing it was described as a "Dell/LSI IT Mode 9207-8i" It doesn't have Dell or LSI screen printings on the board. Can't remember about packaging or drivers disc etc as long gone. I almost immediately put a 40cm fan on the heatsink after reading of these things running hot. It's undoubtedly a counterfeit, but has ran 8 HDDs without issues for a year. Visibly it seems well made. No where in the listing did it mention OEM.
Thanks for watching! glad you enjoyed it. And thanks for sharing your experience with the possible counterfeit card. I'm curious to know how well they work so that's actually very helpful!
yeh right, good that you made this video to bring this to attention. I dont know if i have something faked in my hardware, always suprived that there are so many variations of the "same hardware" noone knows anymore how it supposed to look a like for the real ones. Those mass sellers should be punished hard , the noob poor man sellers they dont know anything and they think its real stuff they sell.
I've been looking into these controllers for a while now and I have watched many videos from your channel. Just now I went into your eBay store and the descriptions are really informative. I found some 9201 16i here in Brazil and they all have a smaller heatsink - but one of them has the brass pins. Does the original have different heatsinks? The seller is quite professional. Thanks for the video!
Im scared to open my NAS and verify now...its been running for 2 years on my 9201-16e though phew: LSI branded and chipset looks the same. Thanks very much for the video
Do you know where I can find drivers,firmware,bios and sas2flash utility for a LSI 2308 9207 HBA SAS card. All the links I’ve found no longer point to these files
I’ve checked their website. When I selected HBA it didn’t list 2308 but I’ll check again. Just looked again and it was my fault. When I clicked on forums links all the links Were dead and saw others asking for links So I thought the card was too old. I did go directly to the site but this time I choose the family and choose all under product name and asset type.and found What I was looking for. Thanks for the reply
Hey there. As you clarified for me before, the Supermicro X9dai motherboard ISAS port is SAS 2/SATA3 (6Gbs). Compatabilitywise and functinalitywise, would be able to run a PCI-E 3.0 SAS 3 HBA on this motherboard to use and take advantage of the 12Gbs SAS3 drive speeds?
Sure, many SAS-3 HBAs are PCie 3.0 x8. So long as you have such a PCIe slot, it should work. Please note that SAS-3 HDDs will not run faster than a SAS-1 or SAS-2 HDD. Spinning disks simply cannot transmit data that fast even though the communication protocol allows for it. SAS-3/12Gbps speeds are mostly useful if using SAS-3 SSDs.
@@ArtofServer Great, and yes, the intent is to use the SAS SSDs. As I may have indicated to you before, this is my workstation that I use for AutoCAD/Revit & Lightroom applications (relatively heavy workload files). My Archive drives are intentionally stored externally (as they aren't typically/frequently needed unless..), I hot-swap the drives only when needed.. so the ability to transfer internally at high speed is more useful to me than a high speed network. Are the SAS 3 drives and HBAs plug and play for this type of application (meaning typical drive use).. or does it require Network administrator knowledge?
I think i got 2 counterfit LSI cards. neither one works anymore. lasted a few months I think (it's been awhile). when I bought them I didn't realize how prevalent the counterfits were, and by the time they died and I realized they might be fake it was long too late to do anything about it. I think they are missing the LSI logo. I'd have to dig them out from my junk cards drawer.
yeah.. that's unfortunate. hopefully this video helps people avoid that kind of situation. and i guess, this adds to the vote that counterfeit cards may not be reliable... it would be awesome of the counterfeit cards were more reliable and higher performing or something like that!! what a concept, right?
@@ArtofServer they did work for awhile. i even flashed them, so that also worked. I'm not sure what ended up killing them. I dug them out and they do indeed lack the LSI brand. I've been meaning to muck about with them again and see if they are resureactable but...eh, it's in the list. iirc, the problem is they dont recognize any drives. the cards show up...they are just always storage controllers with zero drives. :/ surprisingly, found the listing that looks like the source www.ebay.com/itm/LSI-9240-8i-8-port-SAS-SATA-LSI00200-Server-RAID-Controller-Card-/262312323272?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l10137.c10&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true imgur.com/gallery/dQRWny7 imgur.com/gallery/ccGODI1
@EVANCOOL they probably run even hotter when they are not actually LSI cards and using cheap ass heatsinks. i dont have them anymore, sent them to jgreco @ freenas forums, who was interested in cards that appear to be counterfits. replaced with genuine LSI, no problems at all.
@@ArtofServer Hi there, Thanks for these videos, I wish I watched this a few days ago! I bought an LSI 9300-8i from ebay for £140. The listing said the item was new and legit and showed pictures of the box it came in. There was no pictures of the card as it was meant to be in the box and sealed (the box is LSI branded etc). However, when I received the card, the seals on the box had been opened and the anti-static bag had also been opened. The card inside doesn't have the LSI logo. Is it safe to assume this is a fake or possibly an OEM? The quality of the card looks very good, it has the correct heatsink with brass clips. If this is a "fake" it's a very accurate fake. The fact that it doesn't have the LSI logo yet came in an LSI box worries me though, along with the fact that it had all been opened. I have put it in my server and it seems to work and run the proper Avago firmware etc, but I don't want to take the chance of it dying after a few months at £140. What do you suggest I do?
I have a two port Mellanox 10g card package I haven't opened. I almost don't want to watch this. Pretty sure I'm good though. Judging by their other items, they clearly did a pickup at a defunct office building and they sell fiber channel chassis, Cisco Phones, etc.
Whoa!? Fake HDDs? I hadn't heard of that yet... I know there are sellers that erase the SMART data and try to resell them as new. Is that what you mean or something else?
@@Felix-ve9hs I've seen "Sata SSDs" being sold from amazon that were just an SD card inside a sealed enclosure to make them look like they are sata ssds.
Does anyone know the xeon e5-2673 v2 "all core turbo" clock speed. All I'm finding is the Base @3.3Ghz and Turbo @ 4Ghz. Was wondering if the is 4Ghz all core turbo or signal core (like the E5-2667 v2)
I recently bought a 9200-8i and looking at it, it has brass HS pins and an LSI logo, leading me to believe it's legit, even though it cost me only £39. What are the chances it's just a really good CF? Would counterfeiters put in the effort to use brass pins and put on a legit LSI logo?
There's always a possibility of a very meticulous counterfeiter, but economically their motivation is to make them as cheap as possible, but good enough that people who prioritize low cost will still buy them. I think chances are good that was not a counterfeit.
@@ArtofServer That's awesome, thanks for the explanation! I also just noticed something weird about the listing that I never noticed until I looked closely. The bracket on the listing has no pattern on it (apparently this means it's not OEM) but the bracket that came in the box had all the little holes in it (which apparently is the OEM design) which I found strange, but if it's the proper OEM bracket, I won't complain lol
@@ArtofServer Serverking forums.servethehome.com/index.php?members/serverking.20538/ You should sell your cards there on the deal sub. Better to deal one on one then on ebay where the scammers are.
Very informative video.👍 I bought a 9207-8i off Australian ebay site just over a year ago. In the listing it was described as a "Dell/LSI IT Mode 9207-8i" It doesn't have Dell or LSI screen printings on the board. Can't remember about packaging or drivers disc etc as long gone. I almost immediately put a 40cm fan on the heatsink after reading of these things running hot. It's undoubtedly a counterfeit, but has ran 8 HDDs without issues for a year. Visibly it seems well made. No where in the listing did it mention OEM.
Thanks for watching! glad you enjoyed it. And thanks for sharing your experience with the possible counterfeit card. I'm curious to know how well they work so that's actually very helpful!
Thank you for having our back!!
yeh right, good that you made this video to bring this to attention. I dont know if i have something faked in my hardware, always suprived that there are so many variations of the "same hardware" noone knows anymore how it supposed to look a like for the real ones. Those mass sellers should be punished hard , the noob poor man sellers they dont know anything and they think its real stuff they sell.
I've been looking into these controllers for a while now and I have watched many videos from your channel. Just now I went into your eBay store and the descriptions are really informative. I found some 9201 16i here in Brazil and they all have a smaller heatsink - but one of them has the brass pins. Does the original have different heatsinks? The seller is quite professional. Thanks for the video!
Glad I could help
As you said! I just checked eBay: Most of the LSI controllers I found were missing the LSI logo and had the black plugs for the heat spreader.
Im scared to open my NAS and verify now...its been running for 2 years on my 9201-16e though
phew: LSI branded and chipset looks the same. Thanks very much for the video
Thanks for your time and effort.
Thank you!
Do you know where I can find drivers,firmware,bios and sas2flash utility for a LSI 2308 9207 HBA SAS card. All the links I’ve found no longer point to these files
broadcom.com
I’ve checked their website. When I selected HBA it didn’t list 2308 but I’ll check again.
Just looked again and it was my fault. When I clicked on forums links all the links
Were dead and saw others asking for links
So I thought the card was too old.
I did go directly to the site but this time
I choose the family and choose all under product name and asset type.and found
What I was looking for. Thanks for the reply
Hey there.
As you clarified for me before, the Supermicro X9dai motherboard ISAS port is SAS 2/SATA3 (6Gbs).
Compatabilitywise and functinalitywise, would be able to run a PCI-E 3.0 SAS 3 HBA on this motherboard to use and take advantage of the 12Gbs SAS3 drive speeds?
Sure, many SAS-3 HBAs are PCie 3.0 x8. So long as you have such a PCIe slot, it should work. Please note that SAS-3 HDDs will not run faster than a SAS-1 or SAS-2 HDD. Spinning disks simply cannot transmit data that fast even though the communication protocol allows for it. SAS-3/12Gbps speeds are mostly useful if using SAS-3 SSDs.
@@ArtofServer Great, and yes, the intent is to use the SAS SSDs.
As I may have indicated to you before, this is my workstation that I use for AutoCAD/Revit & Lightroom applications (relatively heavy workload files).
My Archive drives are intentionally stored externally (as they aren't typically/frequently needed unless..), I hot-swap the drives only when needed.. so the ability to transfer internally at high speed is more useful to me than a high speed network.
Are the SAS 3 drives and HBAs plug and play for this type of application (meaning typical drive use).. or does it require Network administrator knowledge?
I think i got 2 counterfit LSI cards. neither one works anymore. lasted a few months I think (it's been awhile). when I bought them I didn't realize how prevalent the counterfits were, and by the time they died and I realized they might be fake it was long too late to do anything about it. I think they are missing the LSI logo. I'd have to dig them out from my junk cards drawer.
yeah.. that's unfortunate. hopefully this video helps people avoid that kind of situation.
and i guess, this adds to the vote that counterfeit cards may not be reliable... it would be awesome of the counterfeit cards were more reliable and higher performing or something like that!! what a concept, right?
@@ArtofServer they did work for awhile. i even flashed them, so that also worked. I'm not sure what ended up killing them. I dug them out and they do indeed lack the LSI brand. I've been meaning to muck about with them again and see if they are resureactable but...eh, it's in the list. iirc, the problem is they dont recognize any drives. the cards show up...they are just always storage controllers with zero drives. :/
surprisingly, found the listing that looks like the source
www.ebay.com/itm/LSI-9240-8i-8-port-SAS-SATA-LSI00200-Server-RAID-Controller-Card-/262312323272?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l10137.c10&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true
imgur.com/gallery/dQRWny7
imgur.com/gallery/ccGODI1
@EVANCOOL they probably run even hotter when they are not actually LSI cards and using cheap ass heatsinks. i dont have them anymore, sent them to jgreco @ freenas forums, who was interested in cards that appear to be counterfits. replaced with genuine LSI, no problems at all.
@EVANCOOL i think he's been busy, particularly after the world exploded. haven't heard anything further.
@@ArtofServer Hi there,
Thanks for these videos, I wish I watched this a few days ago!
I bought an LSI 9300-8i from ebay for £140. The listing said the item was new and legit and showed pictures of the box it came in. There was no pictures of the card as it was meant to be in the box and sealed (the box is LSI branded etc).
However, when I received the card, the seals on the box had been opened and the anti-static bag had also been opened. The card inside doesn't have the LSI logo. Is it safe to assume this is a fake or possibly an OEM? The quality of the card looks very good, it has the correct heatsink with brass clips. If this is a "fake" it's a very accurate fake.
The fact that it doesn't have the LSI logo yet came in an LSI box worries me though, along with the fact that it had all been opened. I have put it in my server and it seems to work and run the proper Avago firmware etc, but I don't want to take the chance of it dying after a few months at £140.
What do you suggest I do?
I have a two port Mellanox 10g card package I haven't opened. I almost don't want to watch this. Pretty sure I'm good though. Judging by their other items, they clearly did a pickup at a defunct office building and they sell fiber channel chassis, Cisco Phones, etc.
Very good video!
Thank you.
Thank you too!
alot of the counterfit parts also support lower speeds .
what do you mean by that? I haven't handled a lot of counterfeit parts personally, but I thought they all used the same chipset.
@@ArtofServer had a counterfeit card saying it supported was 3 it did not
Fake Cisco parts has been common for a while now.
HDDs, HBAs, NICs, CPUs, GPUs - what is next?
Really sad how Hardware much is faked today :(
Whoa!? Fake HDDs? I hadn't heard of that yet... I know there are sellers that erase the SMART data and try to resell them as new. Is that what you mean or something else?
@@ArtofServer yeah... used Drives with their SMART Data erased or refurbished drives with different lables :(
@@Felix-ve9hs I've seen "Sata SSDs" being sold from amazon that were just an SD card inside a sealed enclosure to make them look like they are sata ssds.
Does anyone know the xeon e5-2673 v2 "all core turbo" clock speed.
All I'm finding is the Base @3.3Ghz and Turbo @ 4Ghz.
Was wondering if the is 4Ghz all core turbo or signal core (like the E5-2667 v2)
I recently bought a 9200-8i and looking at it, it has brass HS pins and an LSI logo, leading me to believe it's legit, even though it cost me only £39. What are the chances it's just a really good CF? Would counterfeiters put in the effort to use brass pins and put on a legit LSI logo?
There's always a possibility of a very meticulous counterfeiter, but economically their motivation is to make them as cheap as possible, but good enough that people who prioritize low cost will still buy them. I think chances are good that was not a counterfeit.
@@ArtofServer That's awesome, thanks for the explanation! I also just noticed something weird about the listing that I never noticed until I looked closely. The bracket on the listing has no pattern on it (apparently this means it's not OEM) but the bracket that came in the box had all the little holes in it (which apparently is the OEM design) which I found strange, but if it's the proper OEM bracket, I won't complain lol
Thats why I only buy at your store :)
Thanks for your support!
Thank you. I'll certainly give you my business.
Thanks!
4:21 The 6,7 and 8th pics on that page are mine. forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/are-these-counterfeit-xeon-cpus.23923/
I didn't know you were on STH! What's your username on STH?
@@ArtofServer Serverking forums.servethehome.com/index.php?members/serverking.20538/ You should sell your cards there on the deal sub. Better to deal one on one then on ebay where the scammers are.