My Favorite Brain Devices for 2021 (Neurosity, Kernel, Muse, Levels, Dreem)
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
- In this video, Dr. Cody shows his favorite devices for 2021
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Cody Rall, M.D., is a United States Navy trained Psychiatrist who specializes in neurotechnology wearables. He is a co-founder of Stanford Brainstorm, the world’s first academic laboratory dedicated to transforming brain health through entrepreneurship.
Dr. Rall also served as a board member of the psychiatry innovation lab, an annual national competition at the American Psychiatric Association that works as an incubator for groups developing technological solutions to problems in mental health care. He is the founder of Techforpsych, a media and relations company that covers advancements in technology related to neuroscience.
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Thanks so much. You have impacted my healing trajectory!
Amazing to hear that John!
Fantastic video. Thank you.
Thanks aayush!
Great video man keep up the good work
Thanks, glad you liked it!
I would like to see you covering Open BCI as well, especially when you list and compare multiple devices.
I'll definitely include it in this year's review. Got great use out of it in this video: ruclips.net/video/zvXBkzPOuTY/видео.html
Awesome vids! Are there any other communities that you'd recommend checking out? Saw you mention the HeartMind Alchemy group, and would love to hear more.
Thanks you much for your videos. That's so huge amount of research work!
It was! Well worth it though
@@CodyRallMD www.futurehealth.org/bm_at1.htm
This is what the neurofeedback kit used to look like back in the early 2000's. Don't get me wrong, it was very effective but tech moves on.
great vids! I have a question: which eeg is easier to use? and is there a link for the levels you mentioned?
Wow, so much cool new technology coming in!
I know! Thanks Georgo!!!
great! thank you!
You are welcome!
Thanks for the interesting video
You're welcome Giovanni
Do any of these allow for the user to access the application code or is any of it open source? I saw you mentioned neurosity does this.
What do you make of Healium ? Is it comparable to Mendi or Muse. You seem to recommend Muse but I would like to know why you prefer it. Thanks
Which one for adult adhd focus help?
Does the Neurosity notion 2 also control your brain waves like the other wearable did? Or does it just collect data?
Stunning tech
It really is! Thanks Mervyn!
Hi Cody, Love all your videos!!! Does the Neorhythm help with overall anxiety without making you drowsy? I know you said you use it to help you get to sleep, but what about overall anxiety? I meditate daily, have a MUSE and Heartmath device, but I have anxiety that comes and goes. I believe it is ANS and/or hormonally related. Would one of these devices help? Thank you for all you share!!!
Yes there are settings on there that I think would be a happy medium for you! I'm actually putting a video out on this topic next week, hope you enjoy it :)
Great channel. Just wish posts were more often and covered software, with device & third party in depth.
Thanks for the request, I am in the process of getting up more content.
I have the muse 1, but stopped using it because there were no longer any third party apps that worked. I used to use it in my meditations to get some fun feedback on how deep I went. (Don't like the muse monitor app that comes with it, because I find it more distracting, and doesn't do anything for experienced meditators)
I used the mind monitor, but the website for "translating" the eeg results is not active anymore.
Is there any new apps you would recommend for reading what branwaves are more dominant during a session?
I heard that Mind Monitor had glitch but it is back up and running now!
I talk how fast you talk I have High functioning Autism many people tell me to slow down. I turn all videos up to x 1.5 speed to sound as fast as me and you talk I didn't have to adjust this video speed at all. I have trouble understanding people who talk at slower speeds. Great video.
Interesting video. Have to heard anything about the new Cove wearable?
Yes checkout the review on my channel of Cove
Great video great channel. When the herd catches up this channel will blow up.
Herd is here. Still not convinced this does anything more powerful than (real) binaural/isochronic beats. I haven't tried any of it yet. Can you enlighten us lowly herdfolk by sharing your experience with BWE devices? I've been using Hemisync for 2 months and my life has totally turned around its insanity. Funny I bought a pair of nice headphones after doing a ton of research and the ones that work best are the original airpods. prob bc they can cover very low frequencies (32hz)
I hope so too. Thanks for the comment.
Interested in your opinion on non-linear Neurofeedback machine Neuroptimal
Thanks
Only drawback I've read about with Muse S is that the fabric wears relatively quickly.
Love the brain tech
As a professional drone racing pilot, my mind immediately went to controlling a quadcopter drone through a race course through BCI when you introduced the topic, then you said thats precisely what isnt happening 😆
Super super interesting though.
Yes Agilis, I think it will be a while before we have the ability to make quick adjustments to devices such as drones through BCI. Probably implantable devices will get there first, but that would be very invasive. Thanks for watching!
Hey Doc Rall, what do you think about the „Oura Ring“ and the Hearth Math „Inner Balance“ and the „emWave 2“?
Looking forward to this review and thank you alot for this great content!
I personally love Inner Balance from HeartMath
Old school stuff. Check out Lief instead
Great video, but no mention of OpenBCI? Seems strange given that their headsets and other BCI gadgets are already being worked with probably 5000-10000 researchers and programmers around world and were originally intended for DIY. Oh ya, they also provide raw EEG data.. not already classified or processed signals.
Thanks Cat. You make a good point. So many things to cover. I think I gravitate towards the gear that is more readily accessible to the average consumer.
Great Video! Just got into the brain interface variables niche. I have a question though: When I wear my apple Watch I can feel the sensors on my skin and it is an uncomfortable tingling feeling. Do people experience those things with those head wearables as well?
Thank you for your answer :)
my hubby bought me a beautiful top of the line gold Apple watch, I wore it for literally only a couple of hours and I had to take it off..it literally made my wrist ache!! We took it back
Which one of these will help the most for anxiety issue? And breathing issue?
I have panic disorder and at times I have hard time finding my breathing rhythm or pattern? This gives me slight anxiety as well and happens when I'm completely normal. Will neorhythm be best?
Thank you
I resolved my bigger anxiety issues with ILF neurofeedback at a clinic. Now I use the Sensate infrasonic vagus nerve stimulator for anxiety and just love it
Some Amazon reviews said the muse s was too small for ppl with bigger heads and uncomfortable for them. Any truth to that? Thanks for the review.
One question though, if one is looking to buy Neurosity Crown (looking for a review also), would it cover all functions of Muse S?
They have pros/cons. For instance you would not be able to sleep with the Neurosity Crown on, but crown will be more open source
I seem to fall asleep quickly, but can't stay asleep.. either waking up every ~hour.. or waking up at 4am unable to fall back asleep. I'd be interested in not so much tracking but a device to get my brain to shut-off and sleep!
Would NeoRhythm , Neurosity, Kernel, Muse S, Levels, Dreem 2, Circadia, Fisher Wallace Stimulator, SR1 Delta Sleeper, OpenBCI, or NextMind, help with sleep maintenance insomnia?
Hi Dr. Cody, which of these devices would you recommend for a teen who suffers from anxiety?
You can try mindful meditation technic and use the meditation headband like flowtime. or muse. Just meditation and self awareness practice helped me a lot. It's mostly about controlling your physical being and it translates to your outward active life in controlling your emotions and actions. Good luck.
Have you tested the David delight Pro? If not, are you planning on testing that device?
I have not. Is that audiovisual entrainment?
wait so im new to all of this, but getting more datapoints doesn't necessarily mean analyzing the signal is more accurate, is that the case here? i would imagine more data points means you are more susceptible to noise and you would require more post-processing. Is there a need for higher datapoints for the same amount of time? if so, why was that not present in fMRI?
Correct, it needs to be quality data. More quality data will lead to better results.
Do you have a link where we can purchase the Dreem 2? I don’t see it on your links
They're not selling them anymore, I asked and they said they're only being used for researchers
I have seen some research from the National Institutes of Health for neurofeedback for AVHs in Schizophrenia to help reduce how loud or frequent or traumatizing the voices are. They say 30 percent of schizophrenics that hear voices and take antipsychotics still hear voices.
That's interesting! I will have to look into that
Is there any particular brain device you might recommend for seniors?
Hi Brian, it depends on what you are trying to improve. Attention? Sleep? Relaxation?
Are there any that are hardwired only? My spouse doesn’t trust Bluetooth (unless it’s completely enclosed) nor WiFi (at least that close to the head). I’d prefer to have wired-only, as well.
I'm always overworried, oversensitive, then my brain gets numbed easily. I wonder which device is big help for the numbness of the brain. I have this problem since I was little.
Muse S...so what about people with thick long hair? Can the unit get enough EEG signal through hair?
Would you recommend any one of these for focal seizure tracking via EEG for 10 year old.
Not enough channels (coverage) for focal seizures. Please consider ambulatory EEG through a epileptologist (uses glue and full coverage in 10-20 layout and lasts 24-72 hours at home) or VEEG at an Epilepsy center/hospital (same but lasts from 5-14 days, is videod, monitored in real time, and uses stronger glue)
How do the Muse and the Dreem handle naps? I have a chronic illness and sleep at night but also in the day.
They do well with naps too!
Hi Cody,
Have you got anything on the Hapbee device ?
Do the research Hapbee is a scam. The science doesn't add up to the claims.
Hi Dr. Do you think these retail devices would help me analyze my Alpha - Gamma Phase Coupling somehow? I've got Visual Snow Syndrome which has been proven by MEG to be corresponding to Thalamocortical Dysrhythmia where there's not PAC between Alpha and Gamma, so lot of visual sensory input suppression is missing. I just wanna look at the waves when doing different tasks and compare with my symptoms awareness / cognitive perception.
Symptoms from VSS: Light Sensitivity, Palinopsia (Positive After Images and Light Trailing/Streaking), Enhanced Entopic Phenomena (floaters and BFEP), Visual Snow (Static like dots) and Tinnitus. All related to the Dysrhythmia in theory.
Warm Regards,
Alan
Hi Bugo, none of these will be as advanced as a MEG. But if you are wanting to get raw data and maybe run some experiments, the Neurosity Crown is the most open-source at the moment.
@@CodyRallMD Really appreciate your prompt answer. Best regards.
Discovered your Chanel yesterday and Im so hyped up about your videos.They are great (+ also the way you present this information)
One suggestion: pls test the god helmet this would be so so so freaking cool
Thanks! Yes sounds like a good idea!
Would you mind doing a video on Brainbit mindo/flex ?
You should review the TechnoTutor vocabulary software, it's awesome
Thanks Lasse, I'll check it out!
What product would you use if you have already been diagnosed with sleep apnea, and want a way to track how well your CPAP is working? The metrics from the device itself are not that useful. I don't have any issues falling asleep.
Honestly, in that case, you'd probably want something that tracks your blood oxygen levels as much as anything else as that's the issue that CPAP is ultimately aiming to address. For that, you don't necessarily need something that's going to read brainwaves. I've got a Polar HRM that will check pulse and blood oxygenation. If you really need the full view, then you'd consider adding something that can pay attention to the actual brainwaves. Sadly, the best option is no longer available. I used to have a Zeo and it did an amazing job. It's a shame they couldn't figure out how to make their business model work.
I think the new Apple Watch tracks blood oxygen
@@janetstauffer9138 thanks it does I wear one, but for battery savings it’s only once per half hour. I think pretty much every mainstream wearable takes several minutes between measurements to preserve the battery
Best EEG for sports performance? visualization and getting in the zone?
Probably Muse Headband for quiet meditation, followed by visualization after the relaxation exercise. Good luck!
This guy is first in line for neurolink 😂 and well deserved 🤝
Wire me up! Lol.
Hello Dr,
I am a hypnotherapist; practicing in Rabat; Morocco.
I am wondering what is the best EEG device to track my client brainwaves in real time with the best visual platform or available 3rd party apps.
Thank you Doc.
You probably could start with a Muse Headband with Mind Monitor and go from there.
@@CodyRallMD thank you boss, you are the best, love your content
@@CodyRallMD just bought it, I will update you on my experience. thank you once again
I am on the waitlist for the Levels. I am most excited about Levels and Kernel, those are by far the next gen products that will disrupt and advance healthcare. I own the Dream 2 and I was wondering if there are any 3rd party apps you might be aware of, like the Muse, that use the Dream 2 EEG data? Thank you!
I couldn't agree more. You really start seeing how this will transition from hobbyists to mainstream. I'm not aware of any 3rd party apps for Dreem 2 sorry.
Hi Dr. Rall, is there any alternative to Dreem 2? The company has decided not to sell to consumers anymore. Thank you so much!
Muse S extended their sleep capabilities. It's worth checking out!
@@CodyRallMD Thank you so much!
Do you know of a device that monitors your chakra alignment?
Not specifically yet, no
Hey Cody, have you heard of the Bio-Well devices? I found them out via Joe Dispenza and I find the concept of measuring the energy levels of chakras, the energy field around people and even the energy of the room very exciting. What do you think of it? Would you consider making a video on it if you think they're legit?
@Rogene Eichler West Oh come on there is a huge and perfectly coherent spike on all electrodes while there is an energy of thousands of microvolts squared at various frequencies (regular levels are 10-60 microvolts squared). Even experts invited to his events say the subject must be having a seizure but brainwaves are in perfect coherence at unseen amounts of energy and the heart goes into coherence at the same time. Well I would agree with him that those guys are having mystical experiences indeed.
@Rogene Eichler West I don’t know what that’s supposed to mean. So you’re saying many of his subjects just spontaneously go into coherent gamma bursts with great amplitudes due to some external electrical signal? I wish people were a little less attached to their narrow systems of belief, maybe you would think twice before calling someone a crackpot. Good to be skeptical but I really dislike cynicism.
@Rogene Eichler West oh, so you’re saying he’s a fraud and not a crackpot? Well I refuse to believe that, Dispenza’s associate in my country is an acquaintance of mine and she says he’s a man of outstanding character, and I think the same of her.
@Rogene Eichler West will you send me your source so I can check it out?
Neorhythm was total crap for me and returning it cost a ton of money to ship back to Croatia. Love my Muse and Lief though
Kernel costs from $37K-99K depending on the model you buy, how are you getting $5K?
They said the individual laser/detector modules were like $5K but I think you would need your own form factor to use it like that. I have not heard of them lending out individual modules for product development yet. Yes the $37K is probably their helmet with minimum amount of sensors and the software package.
The S is cheaper than the 2 on their website right now…🤔 Any idea why?
Hy!
Did you read this book "Why we sleep" by Matthew Walker?
Lemme axe you a question. What kind of MD says "expecially"?
Axe?
Url to the kernel page?
I want to know neuro headbands can be commandable, codable programme
Take a look at the Neurosity Crown! I think it will have what you are looking for.
Will any of those devices tell me that I'm in Theta rhythm? Thanks!
Yes, Muse with Mind Monitor tracks Theta rhythms. Hope that helps!
Should I be concerned that the Muse S hasn't been third-party verified like the Muse 2?
No, I know people like Dr. Kiefer O'Sullivan have tested the sensors and argues that it is even better. I just need to make more content on Muse S. Just got the Gen 2 so I'll be making a video on that soon :)
I had trouble getting any usable information from this and think it should have been condensed to a 5 minute video telling you clearly what's what.
Looking forward to a device that uses gamma waves to reduce amyloid beta. Research from MIT has shown this actually works.
That would be amazing
one feedback, when covering a lot of devices, from multiple categories, some time stamps would be useful... i really liked emotiv, but i balked significantly at their data handling demands and additional software license requirements... the 3rd party app for muse cost about $20, and you can retain a lot more control, on where your data goes... i am concerned as ai is already here, that the wrong brain data, could get into the wrong systems, and be used for very advanced social engineering manipulation through reverse engineering... maybe not today, or tomorrow, or next year, but it's around a corner...
i also hit delete on my facebook so as to start the new year fresh... so i can't contribute to that community (or give facebook and whoever, my opinions, which are probably mined on here too, but to a less extent)... i'll shoot you an email, but i'm in a bit of a cyber monday rush (10am tuesday here now), and would like to have a nap probably not soon, but hopefully before my wednesday :)
yeah, i really wanted those emotive buds, and couldn't get my work at the time, to even acknowledge their existence... i paid money for something on a kickstarter, no idea when they are coming... and the responses from emotiv, were very corporation not quite sociopathic, but were not community caring...
Would love to get a dreem2 but they do not sell them anymore !
Yes it looks like they don't do direct to consumer at the moment :(
Total newb here, but watch out for the products that have subscriptions. I know Apollo Neuro, HeartMath and David Delight don’t.
What device is best to induce Theta brain waves?
commenting again midway... my feedback on muse s, is that it's great for indoors, however you will run into an operating cost of needing new bands, so if sharing them, or for kids, or going for a run/cycle to meditate somewhere, sweat can eat away at it... so for clinics / gyms / outdoor / kids / sharing.... the muse 2, which i haven't used much yet, seems a bit more rugged, and easier to clean with soaps, or for virus concerns, uv light... so i need some more bands for the s, but i would like to set up sessions in the park etc... and muse 2, seems much better overall (no one is sleeping hopefully), and cheaper, for the price... i got quite confused, that silver is better than gold, that wasn't intuitive, and was difficult to find an answer to, i had to dig quite deep, and into scientific papers, to work that out...
oh, and things like myndlift, only work with the muse 2, which i found out after purchasing the muse s, and there are github projects and youtube clips, on how to add another sensor through the usb port, which don't seem to be available for the muse s... i don't know why, and maybe that will change, or has already changed, since i last looked into it...
having said that, if sharing in a family, and people don't all need to be meditating at the same time, a muse s, with additional bands, can work out cheaper i would expect, not as relevant to me, hopefully it will be one day...
and... just back from the muse store, wouldn't you know it, the one item, that is not on sale, are replacement bands, for the muse s... that sucks a bit... doesn't seem like a coincidence... intentionally or not, there is planned obsolescence, with the muse s, much more than the muse 2, and that increases costs, quite a bit... comfort and the sleep function, are not cheap...
Yep all good points. Thanks Daniel.
Myndlift works with Muse S now
I'm trying to get to sleep well and heal from trauma and addiction
Good luck Suzanne
Dream is 299 right now!
Someone really needs to develop something that constantly monitors your blood glucose as well as ketone levels and gives a score.
Yes Ketone levels would be great. I bet it could be done!
I don't know doc, Affiliate marketing and unbiased reviewing don't go well together, you say just check the reviews on their website, and I see you on their website probably as a partner, and there is no other place to see the users of this device, so ...
What kind of device u think could be used for a autistic child?
Probably Muse Meditation
Instead of just mentioning the different sections/use cases, you should definitely list the sections in future videos.
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. I'll do it from now on.
I find these type of devices quite interesting and useful.
However...one thing is to collect data and to use it for different purposes and a totally different thing is to stimulate it with radiations or magnetic fields. (NeoRhythm, etc).
You speak about "External control" (12:05) "affecting your brain"... "super charge your brain" (12:39). In my opinion, when you radiate your brain, even with "low power" radiations, you don't know what the effects are going to be and the consequences in the medium or long term. In fact, you are playing with your own brain .
People can use binaural sounds at easy and to check the data with some of these devices in order to improve your exercises and results but to "estimulate" your brain with external fields can be, unless you are a real expert, like to play tennis with your brain and not with a tennis ball.
Best regards.
Yes, valid concerns!
ah so "My Favorite" meant "my sponsors". Damn I should've checked the description first.
Trust me, there are several that wanted to be featured that I turned down
neurosity seem the best device for developer
Yes that very well could be true Ton.
Emotional trauma can win over you...ONLY IF YOU LET IT! The heart is where your truest and eternal self resides. It is the absolute and complete foundation of your core being. Let it guide you. The heart has always been beside you. 🙏🏽🌿💚❤️
Is the braintap just goggles with LED lights?!
No. Also has headphones with guided meditations.
Plus for only 5K, it's very fashionable.
I thought moores law would be faster than this !!!
A megahertz processor next to your brain? No thanks, I will stick with Bluetooth.
Thanks for the terrific information on brain devices. I'd like to comment on the video switching POV though. Nothing could be more distracting or damaging than having the speaker continually break eye contact with his audience. Communication specialists will attest that eye contact puts the listener into a form of trance with the speaker and breaking it is highly disruptive. If you don't believe me, try it with your spouse. When they're trying to get their point across to you in a discussion, just glance away like something else has caught your attention and see what response you get from them. I'm not sure who is teaching this to video editors but it's highly damaging to the purpose of the videos and I hope it stops soon.
Thanks Jim, I will try to maintain more eye contact.
Good presentation, tone down the Jazz hands…
Will do! Thanks Rich.
Yep. I’m running a meditation clinic how did you guess? So does 99% of RUclips watchers. A little silly of you to make these assumptions on a public platform. I forgot this was DoctorTube? Btw you channel doesn’t make me throw up in my mouth - I would appreciate it if you stopped saying “so if your running a clinic” every 5 minutes
Sounds good
Cody Rall should use less cocaine and get a real job of debugging commercial Operating Systems like Windows 13.
Bro do you have something to chill out? Your background music and speaking is so loud i've got headache for just 16 second of your video and i won't watch any further.
Sorry to hear that! I have been slowing down in more recent vids, thanks for the feedback
Talk slower and pause between words.... Alright video overall
I was expecting someone with more calm...
cody you are a little too intense, i would invite you to slow down a little bit, and instead of using more words, faster, choose your words more carefully, and in order to arrive at the point faster. all the build up here is not necessary, so just short sweet, on to the point is best for me.
So irresponsible, The devices you are recommending are not clinical grade. primum nil nocere
This is far from irresponsible .. the neurotech field has come a long way and Cody is doing a good job in reporting the developments. Some of the tech presented here appear to be very high res.
Thanks for standing up for me Mervyn!
@@CodyRallMD You are setting the field backwards. These are not amplifier matched, not ISO, not FDA, some are built in a basement. You fail to speak about QEEG and risk and benefits. Fine for a carnival huckster, not for an MD. I will share with some collogues in BCIA and we will see what they think Doc.
@@CodyRallMD I have been doing Neurofeedback for 20 years. Started of with a Brainmaster 2 channel unit and now have a range of FDA approved equipment. These are serious innovations in the field.
@@mervynetienne If you think this is ok, you have been irresponsible for 20 years.