I'd like to believe the lack of AUs led to the amount of creativity from the community now. Interested to see what the community will come up with after the next three chapters release.
I really like this video, show's a lot of perspectives I haven't seen before. Something obvious that I've seen is that there aren't a lot of Deltarune fan games. Because Deltarune is itself a lot more complicated mechanically and graphically than Undertale. More party members lends itself to programming problems and the non-black and white sprites make's art harder as well. All of this is why Deltarune AU stuff feels more special. Because it takes more effort to create something good and there's less of it that exists.
To be fair, Undertale Sprites are way bigger than Deltarune ones, and using two colours doesnt make the art any easier. The thing about Deltarune sprites is that they have more animations going on and all that
I'm a bit disappointed there was no mention of the Ch 3 Metropolis AU that the creators, Huecycles and Lisspeed, said they intend to finish _regardless_ of the real Ch 3's release. It has pretty decent music, cool art and sprite cutscenes, and their take on Mike and the secret boss Halojack have stuck in my head way longer than any others.
Yall know prunsel? I HAD A DREAM SPAMTON WAS LITTERAL CAN OF SPAM. And any time he talked [Spam!] is all he said. And also, his neo form, was A FIREWORK.
Spamton isn't the only character getting original songs like you covered in the last section. There are quite a few focusing on Noelle too, mainly with Snowgrave as the theme. Such as "Girl Next Door" and especially "Stronger than Anything."
I've seen plenty for Kris floating around, and one or two for Susie that were pretty good too! There's probably more but since Spamton is a lot more popular, people miss out on these other original songs too unfortunately :(
Would love if they swapped the characters based on the bigger picture. Assuming that the game is already done, some should think pairing up characters with opposite traits will work the best, imagine this: - Kris and Noelle Swap will make a ton of sense, both are lost of their siblings in Asriel (College...?) and Dess (Missing). Also some theorize that Noelle is the "Angel" the Prophecy describes and Kris is the "Knight" who summons Dark Fountains (Ch2 Ending). - A Susie-Ralsei swap would work the best, considering in Ch1, they really oppose each other. Susie quotes "Your choices don't matter", which conflicts Ralsei's "Oh Kris you're the leader, everthing is in your hands" type of act. But during Ch2, Susie and Ralsei really got along very well, which shows that even though they both oppose each other, they still can be and WILL be great friends. - King and Queen, obviously - Jevil and Tasque Manager would be an interesting swap, as they oppose each other by having Chaos and Destruction face against Order and Perfection. I'd just be perfect (But I'd still prefer Jevil-Spamton) Yeah, that's all that I could've think of, Deltarune really lacks a ton of characters to be swapped with the other, surprisingly, as one of the guys who swaps a character's music for another character's battle, I immediately ran out of ideas on who to swap. But there are still future chapters, who knows what "Tenna" and the Shadowmen would bring us. Also Dess, Asriel, and possibly Mettaton and Papyrus would definitely come afloat as well in the future chapters. We'll see in the future
I think the major issue of this is that your trying to go for swaps with “overarching themes or narratives” when some of thee characters relations, ties, or dynamics with their swap selfs/counterparts cant work for the long run, especially if its minimal to shallow to stretching it with what you can swap using that basis/idea in mind (ex: jevil-tasque manager who is only one-sided reference and the other doesnt even acknowledge the other one). Another major issue also is the fact that your swapping from the entire games narrative without consdering how you would swap with upcoming chapters characters from unreleased chapters that potentially would disrupt the flow of characters swaps between every other ones like the amount of charcaters to swap with running out, having no ties that can make them connect, bare bones dry in terms of potential with swapping them, etc. Like another comment said you just cant tackle a deltaswap take in the same way as underswaps ideas or rules, because deltarune has a variety of characters in a single chapter that it’d be litteral mess if you wanted to go on a full scale swap of the entire game instead of doing it one by one of each chapter, by swapping things in a single chapter just makes it easier to actually think of ways to expand and come up with unique ideas in making a deltaswap take (like aethercrest).
swapping between chapters is closing in on chapter rewritten territory anyway the ideas for swapping secret and main bosses is more open to new designs unlike king and queen swap
Great video! Alas, you're one of the few outside of the "AU Hell" group that actually recognizes stuff like TS!Underswap and Storyshift, and one of the fewer that dive into Deltarune fantracks outside of Puppetswap. Hope this spreads further!
I really quite like A Different Snowgrave by loganvcairns, Salt Route, and Deltatraveler. Simple things like "What if this segment played out differently" and "Meme pushed to logical extreme via a crossover fangame" just do it for me
18:07 Actually slower background tracks are one of the more fun parts of doing vgm as a whole. Everyone already knows you can do boss/battle music so that brings the challange of taking your skillset to a completly different corner and still making a vibe. And that's exactly what I love about doing vgm. It's such a wide spectrum of sound your not limited to one type of sound for everything you make.
Honestly, I kind of wish more people talked about AU music or even just general fan content like this. The songs are good and have a lot of time and passion put into them. This was a great video, and introduced me to a lot of good songs. Can’t wait to see more of your videos
I disagree with saying that Chapter Rewritten was designed without Chapters 3+ in mind. I believe that The Winterer already has a rough idea for Chapters 3-5, and Junkil very explicitly only mentions Seam and not Mike or Tenna (since they’re moved to Chapter 4) and Scampton makes no references to Qing in the official playable experience. The story so far seems more closed off from future Chapters, but it doesn’t seem like it’s “Designed without future Chapters in mind”
for some reason, i really love the “FLOWEY” track from deltatraveler. every time i remember it it stays stuck in my head for days. (btw, deltatraveler is an ongoing playable au fangame that i highly recommend! though it also has games other than deltarune)
As small as it may be, the Deltarune AU portion of the Deltarune fandom is honestly quite exciting. Undertale AU's (or at least some of them) are already really cool, taking stuff from the OG game/story, and reinventing it into new stories. Deltarune is basically Undertale but more, so AU's coming from it already have a great head start of elements to fiddle around with. Personally my favorite ones already have to be Deltarune: Rift, Deltarune: Resurgent Star, Paper Trails, The Other Puppet, Chapter Rewritten, and Alter Heaven. They all do cool new takes on the original story, and add in their own ideas to make it unique, and it's nice you mentioned some of them in this video. Keep up the great work, and I can't wait to see more videos!!!
Creator of Alter Heaven here, just want to thank you so much for the name drop. Also putting me in a list with the greats has got me feeling all kinds of wacky haha, thank you.
Spamton is truly working like a spam mail. Hes gotten fan songs based on soley him, alterations of his song, Aus, his plush came before jevil's, heck he got a mob for super Mario 64 that people have speedrunned. Juno songs even did lyrics for it. He really did [shoot for the sky] and become a [big shot]
Yes, but in Deltarune, you meet Jevil in Chapter 1 and THEN his rival in Chapter 2, plus when naming the fallen human in Undertale, you can type "Jevil" but not "Spamton" fully. There's a 6-character limit; this is why Papyrus says "I'LL ALLOW IT!!!" when you type in "Papyru". Of course, nothing happens when you type in "Spamto" (presumably). Oh, and Jevil's name is alphabetically before Spamton's, unless Spamton decided that he wanted everyone to call him by his middle name (which I'm imagining as "Getalife"), in which case he'd be alphabetically before Jevil.
I am literally so surprised that there isn't at least one or two fan fountains, I mean, you can create a whole dark world of a specific theme from 1 room
i know this isn't REALLY an au, or have many fanmade tracks, but i really like Deltarune: Repainted, even if its just a memefest for the sake of being a memefest
Finally someone has done like a legit commentary on this stuff, love you for that, I will watch ANY and all content related to this you post in the future.
Glad to see someone on youtube finally acknowledging the SoundCloud AU music, GOD DAMN that shit was good back in the day. I remember someone even making me a MEGALO called Insomnia, still up on my soundcloud
11:29 Mike’s Big Showdown’s GJ page says that this version of Mike is both the main and secret boss, with Kris needing to, as per usual, collect a secret item to unlock the fight. I believe the whole thing is like finding Mike’s remote probably. This also explains why Laugh Track uses Big Shot and The World Revolving (Although, yes, TV Mike’s design is a bit overkill since Spamton canonically stole his glasses from Swatch anyways)
thing about spamton and why peeps are obsessed with him and his theme: it shows how to chaotically mash different leimotives without it sounding too bad and then becomes a popular way for people to experiment by adding/remixing leimotives into the song (hence why people make versions of his song so much)
would love to see another one of these when more deltarune content comes out, definitely want to put your attention on that deltarune: the other puppet sparked a massive group of people on to creating high effort tracks repeatedly swapping the other puppet to "Deltarune: The Same Puppet" then back to "The Same Other puppet" and back and forth over and over. it's like a whole funhouse mirror thing
8:23 YOOOOOO! Thanks for talking about chapter rewritten!! I am currently a part of the team myself. (I am the VFX person. AKA: The one who made the cloud and KEYGEN effect in the Big Bang music video). So it is quite exciting to see something I helped work on being discussed. Also, excellent video.
Personally, I don't spend too much time reading up on AUs (though I appreciate the creativity, you guys keep the fandom alive), but I still have to admit that the music is kind of a guilty pleasure and favorite part of them and I still have a lot of those original tracks in my personal listening playlists just cause they're so good lmao. Can't wait to see what other bangers are made in the future cause I think we have some loooong years ahead of us :)
I am writing a darkners-lightners swap au, although it's pretty nuanced and underworked, it also has the same Kris and Player. I would love to write some music for it but i am not a musician, and i really don't have time for comic, so it's mostly a bunch of concepts. Also there's a really fun non-swap AU called Neglected Oversight, it's more "underfellish" but done in a very unique and cool way!
Loved the video! The editing is superb, while I don't know much about undertale AUs or deltaruin AUs your sense of comedy and clean edits made it a fun watch even tho I wasn't really super interested in the topic before watching
YOO MY ROOK VID IS HERE THIS IS SO COOL!! Love the little analysis you did here, shedding light on fan creations rather than the official game itself is def a unique idea and is def something I'm a big fan of!
By the way, if you (or anyone else) make a followup video, I’d LOVE to see something on people making AUs of AUs. Like, there were SO many Undertale AUs that were just “What if AU but also other AU?” and it was great. And as a Chapter Rewritten fan, I’ve been recommended like 3 different Chapter Dewrittens, which are usually different takes on Un-Rewriting the Rewritten characters. It’s like if there was an Underswapswap or something. It’s great, it lets people cover new concepts for the same characters if they want ofr make brand new characters if they want too. Some people think it’s fun to take certain design quirks from their Rewritten versions and re-apply some of the name changes again and go from there, while others just wanna merge the two Chapters and then pull them apart again into one big wad of Deltarune. Like, Scampton’s fight has an act that has you roll some dice and another that’s a dice rolling timing minigame, and so one guy decided that, since Spamton and Junkil both have ties to money and fame and losing it all right when they’ve finally made it and their shops have costs that change rapidly, their Dewrite would be a gambler and their NEO design would include a slot machine.
Really well said! I have very similiar opinions on all of these. It's always nice to find tracks about my favourite characters, music representing completly new ideas and remixes in general. The quality is really good and many of them fit the original game perfectly. As you said to get more consistency with things like AUs we still need for the game to be complete. That doesn't mean we can't have fun imagining the future though 😁
Oh and theres also those “What if Noelle lost her way?” animations by SpriterMike that i think capture the vibe of official deltarune content/sprites really well Feel free to check it out if you want to it’s on youtube
Oh yeah I'm really enjoying the fan content so far. A huge aspect I like about it, is that since the game is still unfinished, a lot of content is surrounding what the unsolved mysteries and stories are. It's been really cool seeing people theorize what might happen next, what if's, all that jazz.
The way the Deltarune community has AUs that are "one concept done several times in different ways by different people" is a lot more in line with how AUs are done normally in fandom. And AUs that swap characters roles or morality (or both) tend to be some of the most common. The way AUs are done in the Undertale Fandom is really unusual.
How dare you not call (7:54) a banger!! I put a lot of work into that...... In all seriousness though, I had to do a double-take when I saw some of my stuff featured here, like my Other Puppet tracks and my art of R.V Pine's Cam. Almost gave me a heart attack, I'm not used to being recognized!! Really good analysis overall, too!! It was fun hearing your takes on how all of these Deltarune SoundCloud shenanigans look from an outside context. There's a lot of good content in there that I think people tend to overlook, so it's a real treat seeing a larger content creator put a spotlight on it. I hope this inspires people to look into more of this little niche, and maybe even throw some of their own takes out there.
hey i made i can you can and a bit of battle against the world and id like to say thank you for making a video about the au community, cause no one really knows about us too much! with your background music choice im glad i can notice some people i know which means you did some good digging!
As someone who has been in this fandom since like 2016, and is obsessed with both the official games and all of the AU's, I'm shocked no one had made a video like this, for Undertale there's a few but not for Deltarune. I have been into Deltarune AU's and it's music for years at this point and seeing all of these amazing fanmade songs finally be acknowledged in a video that wasn't a cover or original arrangement is wonderful. Basically every au and song you mentioned I've at least seen and i really love how creative and amazing the fandom is at doing basically entire games and soundtrack out of passion, i also didn't expect "!!!" To get a shout-out as it's one of the few spamton fan songs that hasn't gotten a cover or anything at all from what I've seen, it's also one of my personal favorites. I'm working on my own AU's with friends and it makes me happy that even if the au community is smaller than Undertale, amazing fan songs still constantly come out. Also want some fun is underrated.
My personal favorite Mike interpretation is Modtro64’s take. He’s much taller and leans better into the gameshow host aspect, plus his take has a secret boss as well!
One deltarune fan made song I recommend is "TAKE ME WITH YOU" by Ciphgowhat,This song is an unofficial secret boss take for chapter 6, and the secret boss is the vessel from the beginning of the game.
id love a sequel to this video as some much amazing fan work has been made since or hasnt been touched on in the video (also there were not enough fan made secret bosses talked about)
As someone who's currently working on their own Deltarune AU, i feel like most "why arent we doing au's" should probably apply to me but somehow they just- dont- Mainly since the way that i do my "swap" au isnt really the way you'd expect it to- It's basically just grabbing a character and putting other traits from a different character into it, instead of fully swapping, which allows me to basically fuse concepts to make a new concept and create interesting characters,- that also however does mean that i have a focus on the individual characters more-of and not so much on the overall story. I also try to not "fuse" or "swap" the characters that everyone does, for example instead of jevil - spamton or jevil - king or anything like that, i tried to do a jevil - swatch and it actually works surprisingly well for a fun character. (i'd also like to note that most of the ideas and personalities/lore come from roleplaying since thats my primary method of sharing the story. I'm not a good writer, nor am i good at making movies, and i'm pretty bad at art, barely good enough to make doodly references of what they look like, but roleplay is pretty much what i'm the most comfortable with when it comes to skill.)
it's so funny that some people ascertain underswap as the origins of aus. Admittedly underfell was slightly later than the og team (i know bc i was on it) but the version of underswap popularly known today absolutely *isn't* the same underswap worked on by myself and the team. even though we all ditched it. I loved your dissection of it all and your showcase of the music! keep making content, man!
They also swapped lightners in Deltarune Chapter Rewritten, the main characters in this now are Asriel, Noelle and (a new Character) Charkis. Berdly is now Lancer and Susie is now Halloween based like Noelle being Christmas based
Imagine people making their Deltaswap as we know more and then race to be the ones to make first OFFICIAL Deltaswap (i don't consider any AUs to Deltarune as a whole official yet (those meant for whole game))
oh my gosh, i was randomly looking at deltarune videos and was super interested with what you had to present... i had no idea that id find my music and channel at the end!! seriously so awesome, love your videos and keep up the great work!!
Hey!! Chapter rewritten does have plans for 3-5, they basically shift the characters (ch 3 has ch 5 characters, ch 4 has ch 3 characters, and ch 5 has ch 4 characters)
These AUs swapping chapter specific characters like pairs might succeed and turn into full 7-chapter AUs if Deltarune will have two more chapter pairs and final chapter(Chapter 7) being something really unique without all this structure of Dark Fountain of the day.
I know quite a bit about mr. other puppet. he (the creator of the tumblr who does not hang out on tumblr) is holding back on doing stuff like expanding the lore (with chapter 1 and 2 designs for npcs and the dark world) because he wants to preserve the au against being screwed by the existance of future chapters for instance he is saving whoever is swapping with berdly for when 3-5 comes out I find this extremely annoying personally but its understandable. The energy just isn't there and you dont want to make something that will be just discarded later also: it was originally (and still is natively refered to) as "puppetswap" but someone on tumblr already took the name so it had to be changed
I think the main difference in Undertale and Deltarune AUs is definitely Deltarune being incomplete leading into a prediction culture. With Undertale, the logic that spawned AUs was “I want more Undertale but the game is complete: so let’s swap characters and ideas around” whereas with Deltarune it’s “I want more Deltarune… and the game is incomplete, so let’s predict”. This started in chapter 1 (I’m surprised you didn’t mention some of the false chapter 2 predictions like Chara possessing Kris or a return to the chapter 1 dark world to fight a card queen) but it was comparatively niche compared to the post chapter 2 prediction scene, And just like underswaps beginnings Mr looigis “Mike” Design came first to create a basic foundation for all character 3 designs that came afterwards (The idea that mike was a TV head in a TV world). And like you mentioned in the video: this let Musicians and fanartists shine in a completely blank canvas! The prediction community has similar ideas, but it’s also willing to break them (or it’s just indecisive. The debate over the chapter 3 secret bosses soul color proves that, that’s somehow more contentious than the secret boss designs themselves) Now the prediction scene is filling the void in fan content that Undertale AUs previously filled, and Deltarune AUs are the minority. Also this has a entirely different can of worms with “Deltarune memes from the future”. Skuntle Bingoid is basically a secret boss parody and I love him
My idea for a chapter 3 secret boss is like something based off of PSAs or commercials, because nobody pays attention to those Or it could be based off cancelled tv shows
I have so many thoughts on this video, because I found it so cool! Firstly, I was the same. I loved AU music and my soundcloud had so many of them liked LMAO so most of my AU knowledge came from the music. Man, the nostalgia. Secondly, In terms of the deltarune AUs, I like them all so much! I love to see the creativity of this fanbase returning again!
Stuff like this makes me so excited for the future and how the game will evolve. It makes me happy in a way I can't describe. Also hello, I've never seen you before but I'm hooked
about 12:30 - i am sure the third chapter theme is television shows and stuff like that so if the secret bosses in chapters are based on things that are never used than, what type of shows/show making equipment is never used? (okay watched a bit more of the video, and i agree with the radio idea)
This was a great video! I've also thought about the ver different au culture (is that even a thing?) between the two games! But, let me just say I love your little smug ghost guy, very squeezable.
i am so glad that youtube has recommend me this. It's been a while since i have'nt discovered a channel that makes me want to rewatch a video again ! You deserve more stats
I also feel like Deltarune has more songs to fill unused sections Like Undertale had a song for pretty much everything Deltarune however, did not. Best example I can give is the Dog Couple & Tasque Manager The Dog Couple got a song and Tasque Manager didn't So people made songs for Tasque Manager Obviously I'm biased since I made Electrodazzle as a filler song, but overall I still think I'm correct that Deltarune has more songs made to fit in the base game
Aw man, I’m a little sad you didn’t talk about Deltatraveler. It’s not really an AU nor is it really a “this could be a future chapter”, it was just a meme that turned into a really good (albeit still in progress) game with some equally really good music
Deltarune AUs have serious poetintial and the amount of representation in this video is awesome, and the critics are very well done. and the fact one of my characters and my friends are here in the video just puts a smile on my face. Thanks for making an awesome video.
Deltarune is a lot harder to make fan content for, thanks to the more complex music and sprites. However, I did make a deltarune crossover AU called "DeltaFerb", it's Deltarune + Phineas and Ferb. I already have a lot of the OST up if anyone is interested.
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One AU I really like is called the "salt route", which is like a weird route, but with Spamton instead of Noelle
salt route isn't really an au as it is a concept
@@bottleofsyrup9916 Wdym it is a concept for an AU.
@@kristinevanyperen5445 it's more like a different timeline, because it don't changes characters or more stuff
@@Esquizo726 It doesn't necessarily have to
@@kristinevanyperen5445 both of you salt route isn't an AU it's an AT
FLEUR!!!! MY BOY, HE'S FINALLY BACK ON THE SCREENS OF MILLIONS!!!! HE'D BE SO HAPPY/ECSTATIC/OVERJOYED!!!!
The boi
The Joker real????
RED! YO You make awesome music
Fleur is flower in french.. it's pretty sus
I'd like to believe the lack of AUs led to the amount of creativity from the community now.
Interested to see what the community will come up with after the next three chapters release.
There wasn't a lot, or really any AUs for chapter 1, not much to work with.
Besides the obvious Deltafell and Deltaswap, I don't thi k there's been more than 15 Au's
@@cursed-cat9126 Don't forget The Other Puppet
@@Periwinkleaccount Huh??
@@inciniumz4671 trust me, it’s really funny if you play splatoon.
I really like this video, show's a lot of perspectives I haven't seen before.
Something obvious that I've seen is that there aren't a lot of Deltarune fan games. Because Deltarune is itself a lot more complicated mechanically and graphically than Undertale. More party members lends itself to programming problems and the non-black and white sprites make's art harder as well. All of this is why Deltarune AU stuff feels more special. Because it takes more effort to create something good and there's less of it that exists.
Ey it’s the guy
To be fair, Undertale Sprites are way bigger than Deltarune ones, and using two colours doesnt make the art any easier. The thing about Deltarune sprites is that they have more animations going on and all that
I'm a bit disappointed there was no mention of the Ch 3 Metropolis AU that the creators, Huecycles and Lisspeed, said they intend to finish _regardless_ of the real Ch 3's release.
It has pretty decent music, cool art and sprite cutscenes, and their take on Mike and the secret boss Halojack have stuck in my head way longer than any others.
Àgreed.
Yall know prunsel? I HAD A DREAM SPAMTON WAS LITTERAL CAN OF SPAM. And any time he talked [Spam!] is all he said. And also, his neo form, was A FIREWORK.
Spamton isn't the only character getting original songs like you covered in the last section. There are quite a few focusing on Noelle too, mainly with Snowgrave as the theme. Such as "Girl Next Door" and especially "Stronger than Anything."
I've seen plenty for Kris floating around, and one or two for Susie that were pretty good too! There's probably more but since Spamton is a lot more popular, people miss out on these other original songs too unfortunately :(
@@snowflake_18 And poor Jevil; nobody seems to care about him all that much.
Very cool video, thanks for making my day :)
No way the winterer real
I was definetly not scrolling through the comments in search of you, cya
Behold
that remix of alot of deltarune fan songs was just...amazing? I can't even begin to describe how beautiful it was
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Would love if they swapped the characters based on the bigger picture. Assuming that the game is already done, some should think pairing up characters with opposite traits will work the best, imagine this:
- Kris and Noelle Swap will make a ton of sense, both are lost of their siblings in Asriel (College...?) and Dess (Missing). Also some theorize that Noelle is the "Angel" the Prophecy describes and Kris is the "Knight" who summons Dark Fountains (Ch2 Ending).
- A Susie-Ralsei swap would work the best, considering in Ch1, they really oppose each other. Susie quotes "Your choices don't matter", which conflicts Ralsei's "Oh Kris you're the leader, everthing is in your hands" type of act. But during Ch2, Susie and Ralsei really got along very well, which shows that even though they both oppose each other, they still can be and WILL be great friends.
- King and Queen, obviously
- Jevil and Tasque Manager would be an interesting swap, as they oppose each other by having Chaos and Destruction face against Order and Perfection. I'd just be perfect (But I'd still prefer Jevil-Spamton)
Yeah, that's all that I could've think of, Deltarune really lacks a ton of characters to be swapped with the other, surprisingly, as one of the guys who swaps a character's music for another character's battle, I immediately ran out of ideas on who to swap. But there are still future chapters, who knows what "Tenna" and the Shadowmen would bring us. Also Dess, Asriel, and possibly Mettaton and Papyrus would definitely come afloat as well in the future chapters. We'll see in the future
Chaos Manager, a fusion of Jevil and Tasque Manager, exists.
I think the major issue of this is that your trying to go for swaps with “overarching themes or narratives” when some of thee characters relations, ties, or dynamics with their swap selfs/counterparts cant work for the long run, especially if its minimal to shallow to stretching it with what you can swap using that basis/idea in mind (ex: jevil-tasque manager who is only one-sided reference and the other doesnt even acknowledge the other one). Another major issue also is the fact that your swapping from the entire games narrative without consdering how you would swap with upcoming chapters characters from unreleased chapters that potentially would disrupt the flow of characters swaps between every other ones like the amount of charcaters to swap with running out, having no ties that can make them connect, bare bones dry in terms of potential with swapping them, etc. Like another comment said you just cant tackle a deltaswap take in the same way as underswaps ideas or rules, because deltarune has a variety of characters in a single chapter that it’d be litteral mess if you wanted to go on a full scale swap of the entire game instead of doing it one by one of each chapter, by swapping things in a single chapter just makes it easier to actually think of ways to expand and come up with unique ideas in making a deltaswap take (like aethercrest).
If Jevil swaps with Tasque Manager, then does Spamton swap with Rouxls?
swapping between chapters is closing in on chapter rewritten territory anyway the ideas for swapping secret and main bosses is more open to new designs unlike king and queen swap
Great video! Alas, you're one of the few outside of the "AU Hell" group that actually recognizes stuff like TS!Underswap and Storyshift, and one of the fewer that dive into Deltarune fantracks outside of Puppetswap. Hope this spreads further!
Àgreed.
Thank you for covering the songs I made! This is a really good video!
Àgreed.
I really quite like A Different Snowgrave by loganvcairns, Salt Route, and Deltatraveler. Simple things like "What if this segment played out differently" and "Meme pushed to logical extreme via a crossover fangame" just do it for me
Àgreed.
18:07
Actually slower background tracks are one of the more fun parts of doing vgm as a whole.
Everyone already knows you can do boss/battle music so that brings the challange of taking your skillset to a completly different corner and still making a vibe.
And that's exactly what I love about doing vgm. It's such a wide spectrum of sound your not limited to one type of sound for everything you make.
Àgreed.
As someone who makes deltarune au music, I can confirm everything you’ve said is correct
Àgreed.
Honestly, I kind of wish more people talked about AU music or even just general fan content like this. The songs are good and have a lot of time and passion put into them. This was a great video, and introduced me to a lot of good songs.
Can’t wait to see more of your videos
Àgreed.
I disagree with saying that Chapter Rewritten was designed without Chapters 3+ in mind. I believe that The Winterer already has a rough idea for Chapters 3-5, and Junkil very explicitly only mentions Seam and not Mike or Tenna (since they’re moved to Chapter 4) and Scampton makes no references to Qing in the official playable experience. The story so far seems more closed off from future Chapters, but it doesn’t seem like it’s “Designed without future Chapters in mind”
for some reason, i really love the “FLOWEY” track from deltatraveler. every time i remember it it stays stuck in my head for days. (btw, deltatraveler is an ongoing playable au fangame that i highly recommend! though it also has games other than deltarune)
As small as it may be, the Deltarune AU portion of the Deltarune fandom is honestly quite exciting. Undertale AU's (or at least some of them) are already really cool, taking stuff from the OG game/story, and reinventing it into new stories. Deltarune is basically Undertale but more, so AU's coming from it already have a great head start of elements to fiddle around with. Personally my favorite ones already have to be Deltarune: Rift, Deltarune: Resurgent Star, Paper Trails, The Other Puppet, Chapter Rewritten, and Alter Heaven. They all do cool new takes on the original story, and add in their own ideas to make it unique, and it's nice you mentioned some of them in this video. Keep up the great work, and I can't wait to see more videos!!!
Creator of Alter Heaven here, just want to thank you so much for the name drop. Also putting me in a list with the greats has got me feeling all kinds of wacky haha, thank you.
@@Readyplayerclay No worries! It really is a cool series and I can't wait to see where it goes!!!
Spamton is truly working like a spam mail. Hes gotten fan songs based on soley him, alterations of his song, Aus, his plush came before jevil's, heck he got a mob for super Mario 64 that people have speedrunned. Juno songs even did lyrics for it. He really did [shoot for the sky] and become a [big shot]
Yes, but in Deltarune, you meet Jevil in Chapter 1 and THEN his rival in Chapter 2, plus when naming the fallen human in Undertale, you can type "Jevil" but not "Spamton" fully. There's a 6-character limit; this is why Papyrus says "I'LL ALLOW IT!!!" when you type in "Papyru". Of course, nothing happens when you type in "Spamto" (presumably). Oh, and Jevil's name is alphabetically before Spamton's, unless Spamton decided that he wanted everyone to call him by his middle name (which I'm imagining as "Getalife"), in which case he'd be alphabetically before Jevil.
Man, this channel is the _embodiment_ of “telling it like it is”.
I’m impressed.
Àgreed.
I am literally so surprised that there isn't at least one or two fan fountains, I mean, you can create a whole dark world of a specific theme from 1 room
Ok Battle Against The World from Chapter Rewritten is AMAZING!!! You can't deny that!
i know this isn't REALLY an au, or have many fanmade tracks, but i really like Deltarune: Repainted, even if its just a memefest for the sake of being a memefest
Finally someone has done like a legit commentary on this stuff, love you for that, I will watch ANY and all content related to this you post in the future.
Glad to see someone on youtube finally acknowledging the SoundCloud AU music, GOD DAMN that shit was good back in the day. I remember someone even making me a MEGALO called Insomnia, still up on my soundcloud
11:29 Mike’s Big Showdown’s GJ page says that this version of Mike is both the main and secret boss, with Kris needing to, as per usual, collect a secret item to unlock the fight. I believe the whole thing is like finding Mike’s remote probably. This also explains why Laugh Track uses Big Shot and The World Revolving (Although, yes, TV Mike’s design is a bit overkill since Spamton canonically stole his glasses from Swatch anyways)
Tbf the design could be referencing the basement face
thing about spamton and why peeps are obsessed with him and his theme: it shows how to chaotically mash different leimotives without it sounding too bad and then becomes a popular way for people to experiment by adding/remixing leimotives into the song (hence why people make versions of his song so much)
would love to see another one of these when more deltarune content comes out, definitely want to put your attention on that deltarune: the other puppet sparked a massive group of people on to creating high effort tracks repeatedly swapping the other puppet to "Deltarune: The Same Puppet" then back to "The Same Other puppet" and back and forth over and over. it's like a whole funhouse mirror thing
I've heard.
8:23 YOOOOOO!
Thanks for talking about chapter rewritten!!
I am currently a part of the team myself. (I am the VFX person. AKA: The one who made the cloud and KEYGEN effect in the Big Bang music video). So it is quite exciting to see something I helped work on being discussed.
Also, excellent video.
14:01 Oí, that's a sick mashup! I love how you mixed everything sounds totally like a final boss or the credits version somehow.
Personally, I don't spend too much time reading up on AUs (though I appreciate the creativity, you guys keep the fandom alive), but I still have to admit that the music is kind of a guilty pleasure and favorite part of them and I still have a lot of those original tracks in my personal listening playlists just cause they're so good lmao. Can't wait to see what other bangers are made in the future cause I think we have some loooong years ahead of us :)
I am writing a darkners-lightners swap au, although it's pretty nuanced and underworked, it also has the same Kris and Player. I would love to write some music for it but i am not a musician, and i really don't have time for comic, so it's mostly a bunch of concepts.
Also there's a really fun non-swap AU called Neglected Oversight, it's more "underfellish" but done in a very unique and cool way!
Yo, I wasn't expecting to see the Photon Negative creator here! Love your art!
@@dantesdiscoinfernolol omg i am famous °o°
Loved the video! The editing is superb, while I don't know much about undertale AUs or deltaruin AUs your sense of comedy and clean edits made it a fun watch even tho I wasn't really super interested in the topic before watching
This video is honestly incredible. When I see videos this well edited (I especially liked the musical segments) it makes me glad that RUclips exists.
YOO MY ROOK VID IS HERE THIS IS SO COOL!! Love the little analysis you did here, shedding light on fan creations rather than the official game itself is def a unique idea and is def something I'm a big fan of!
By the way, if you (or anyone else) make a followup video, I’d LOVE to see something on people making AUs of AUs. Like, there were SO many Undertale AUs that were just “What if AU but also other AU?” and it was great. And as a Chapter Rewritten fan, I’ve been recommended like 3 different Chapter Dewrittens, which are usually different takes on Un-Rewriting the Rewritten characters. It’s like if there was an Underswapswap or something. It’s great, it lets people cover new concepts for the same characters if they want ofr make brand new characters if they want too. Some people think it’s fun to take certain design quirks from their Rewritten versions and re-apply some of the name changes again and go from there, while others just wanna merge the two Chapters and then pull them apart again into one big wad of Deltarune. Like, Scampton’s fight has an act that has you roll some dice and another that’s a dice rolling timing minigame, and so one guy decided that, since Spamton and Junkil both have ties to money and fame and losing it all right when they’ve finally made it and their shops have costs that change rapidly, their Dewrite would be a gambler and their NEO design would include a slot machine.
I love how you somehow became Spamton in this video, just putting in random clips from all over the internet was very funny
Àgreed.
@@yellowstarproductions6743 Stop agreeing with everything!!! You're not KazooCat; you didn't make the video!
Mashup at 14:00 goes hard, good job!
please post the mashups in 14:00 they all slap so hard 🔥🔥
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@@ParaPlays. "ihi"? "reason"?
Really well said! I have very similiar opinions on all of these. It's always nice to find tracks about my favourite characters, music representing completly new ideas and remixes in general. The quality is really good and many of them fit the original game perfectly. As you said to get more consistency with things like AUs we still need for the game to be complete. That doesn't mean we can't have fun imagining the future though 😁
Oh and theres also those “What if Noelle lost her way?” animations by SpriterMike that i think capture the vibe of official deltarune content/sprites really well
Feel free to check it out if you want to it’s on youtube
Oh yeah I'm really enjoying the fan content so far. A huge aspect I like about it, is that since the game is still unfinished, a lot of content is surrounding what the unsolved mysteries and stories are. It's been really cool seeing people theorize what might happen next, what if's, all that jazz.
At this point, I believe new music artists just make excuses in form of Chapter predictions to deliver total BANGERS to us
PLEASE make an update and talk about the puppet pipeline, it's actually insane
they kept swaping the 'the other puppet' roles back and forth but the music is great
@@SillyGuy-ng4cc I've heard.
My god I was so happy to see some AetherCrest recognition in this video
i was so confident that r.v pine was actually toby because all of the music sounds so amazing and memorable
The way the Deltarune community has AUs that are "one concept done several times in different ways by different people" is a lot more in line with how AUs are done normally in fandom. And AUs that swap characters roles or morality (or both) tend to be some of the most common. The way AUs are done in the Undertale Fandom is really unusual.
How dare you not call (7:54) a banger!! I put a lot of work into that...... In all seriousness though, I had to do a double-take when I saw some of my stuff featured here, like my Other Puppet tracks and my art of R.V Pine's Cam. Almost gave me a heart attack, I'm not used to being recognized!!
Really good analysis overall, too!! It was fun hearing your takes on how all of these Deltarune SoundCloud shenanigans look from an outside context. There's a lot of good content in there that I think people tend to overlook, so it's a real treat seeing a larger content creator put a spotlight on it. I hope this inspires people to look into more of this little niche, and maybe even throw some of their own takes out there.
hey i made i can you can and a bit of battle against the world and id like to say thank you for making a video about the au community, cause no one really knows about us too much! with your background music choice im glad i can notice some people i know which means you did some good digging!
As someone who has been in this fandom since like 2016, and is obsessed with both the official games and all of the AU's, I'm shocked no one had made a video like this, for Undertale there's a few but not for Deltarune. I have been into Deltarune AU's and it's music for years at this point and seeing all of these amazing fanmade songs finally be acknowledged in a video that wasn't a cover or original arrangement is wonderful. Basically every au and song you mentioned I've at least seen and i really love how creative and amazing the fandom is at doing basically entire games and soundtrack out of passion, i also didn't expect "!!!" To get a shout-out as it's one of the few spamton fan songs that hasn't gotten a cover or anything at all from what I've seen, it's also one of my personal favorites. I'm working on my own AU's with friends and it makes me happy that even if the au community is smaller than Undertale, amazing fan songs still constantly come out. Also want some fun is underrated.
Wait, so there's a song with only three exclamation marks in the title and nothing else?
My personal favorite Mike interpretation is Modtro64’s take. He’s much taller and leans better into the gameshow host aspect, plus his take has a secret boss as well!
One deltarune fan made song I recommend is "TAKE ME WITH YOU" by Ciphgowhat,This song is an unofficial secret boss take for chapter 6, and the secret boss is the vessel from the beginning of the game.
id love a sequel to this video as some much amazing fan work has been made since or hasnt been touched on in the video (also there were not enough fan made secret bosses talked about)
As someone who's currently working on their own Deltarune AU, i feel like most "why arent we doing au's" should probably apply to me but somehow they just- dont-
Mainly since the way that i do my "swap" au isnt really the way you'd expect it to- It's basically just grabbing a character and putting other traits from a different character into it, instead of fully swapping, which allows me to basically fuse concepts to make a new concept and create interesting characters,-
that also however does mean that i have a focus on the individual characters more-of and not so much on the overall story. I also try to not "fuse" or "swap" the characters that everyone does, for example instead of jevil - spamton or jevil - king or anything like that, i tried to do a jevil - swatch and it actually works surprisingly well for a fun character.
(i'd also like to note that most of the ideas and personalities/lore come from roleplaying since thats my primary method of sharing the story. I'm not a good writer, nor am i good at making movies, and i'm pretty bad at art, barely good enough to make doodly references of what they look like, but roleplay is pretty much what i'm the most comfortable with when it comes to skill.)
it's so funny that some people ascertain underswap as the origins of aus. Admittedly underfell was slightly later than the og team (i know bc i was on it) but the version of underswap popularly known today absolutely *isn't* the same underswap worked on by myself and the team. even though we all ditched it. I loved your dissection of it all and your showcase of the music! keep making content, man!
They also swapped lightners in Deltarune Chapter Rewritten, the main characters in this now are Asriel, Noelle and (a new Character) Charkis.
Berdly is now Lancer and Susie is now Halloween based like Noelle being Christmas based
HOW is this video this well edited????
when you 1 2 oatmealed me, i lost my mind
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This is a very fun and interesting analysis on Deltarune AU's! I love your insight and general means of conveying info!
i wish this video was made more recently, because theres so many more cooler concepts for secret bosses, like Big Brandal C or screepto
It's in these kinds of moments I wish I could compose. But at least I have the creative power for creating my own AU. I'll start thinking about that.
your OC lools great, and your content is very well made, you deserve way more attention
Imagine people making their Deltaswap as we know more and then race to be the ones to make first OFFICIAL Deltaswap (i don't consider any AUs to Deltarune as a whole official yet (those meant for whole game))
tobyfox when he sees a prediction is fully accurate.
14:00 - 15:00 how dare you bless my ears with such amazing music then not tell me we're to find it 😭
14:00 but wait, it all mix together so well. what
the mumbo at 12:31 is my personal highlight of this video
My favourite AU (if you can call it that) is Deltarune: Ribbit. It's a really fun mod of DELTARUNE that has a whole different story and characters.
I've heard how good Ribbit is.
i love your character's design! they're so silly
DANG, just had this amazingly edited video out of nowhere! Instant new channel for me to watch!
7:47 Yo!! I made apartment abode! So cool to see it in this video haha
9:24 HOLY SHIT THATS ME!
oh my gosh, i was randomly looking at deltarune videos and was super interested with what you had to present... i had no idea that id find my music and channel at the end!! seriously so awesome, love your videos and keep up the great work!!
the moment i saw my song in this i screamed so loud oh my god thank you for including it
you have no idea how much this has me jumping for joy
Which one?
@@Most-sane-deltarune-fan the roaring titans
@@tempotasticc Oh, cool!
i just found your channel and OH MY GOD. you put so much effort into þese videos
I listened for 5 seconds and damn... Your voice is so nice! Can we get ASMR or something man your voice is just so good...
Hey!! Chapter rewritten does have plans for 3-5, they basically shift the characters (ch 3 has ch 5 characters, ch 4 has ch 3 characters, and ch 5 has ch 4 characters)
These AUs swapping chapter specific characters like pairs might succeed and turn into full 7-chapter AUs if Deltarune will have two more chapter pairs and final chapter(Chapter 7) being something really unique without all this structure of Dark Fountain of the day.
The pacing of the jokes, the silences and the music choices are incredible, along with the editing
I know quite a bit about mr. other puppet. he (the creator of the tumblr who does not hang out on tumblr) is holding back on doing stuff like expanding the lore (with chapter 1 and 2 designs for npcs and the dark world) because he wants to preserve the au against being screwed by the existance of future chapters
for instance he is saving whoever is swapping with berdly for when 3-5 comes out
I find this extremely annoying personally but its understandable. The energy just isn't there and you dont want to make something that will be just discarded later
also: it was originally (and still is natively refered to) as "puppetswap" but someone on tumblr already took the name so it had to be changed
im telling tyou that mashup section in the predictions slaped way more than it need to
Ok its is specially uncanny seeing a video essay refering the specific flavour of undertale niche I was nurtured in. I'm all for it.
I think the main difference in Undertale and Deltarune AUs is definitely Deltarune being incomplete leading into a prediction culture. With Undertale, the logic that spawned AUs was “I want more Undertale but the game is complete: so let’s swap characters and ideas around” whereas with Deltarune it’s “I want more Deltarune… and the game is incomplete, so let’s predict”. This started in chapter 1 (I’m surprised you didn’t mention some of the false chapter 2 predictions like Chara possessing Kris or a return to the chapter 1 dark world to fight a card queen) but it was comparatively niche compared to the post chapter 2 prediction scene, And just like underswaps beginnings Mr looigis “Mike” Design came first to create a basic foundation for all character 3 designs that came afterwards (The idea that mike was a TV head in a TV world).
And like you mentioned in the video: this let Musicians and fanartists shine in a completely blank canvas! The prediction community has similar ideas, but it’s also willing to break them (or it’s just indecisive. The debate over the chapter 3 secret bosses soul color proves that, that’s somehow more contentious than the secret boss designs themselves) Now the prediction scene is filling the void in fan content that Undertale AUs previously filled, and Deltarune AUs are the minority.
Also this has a entirely different can of worms with “Deltarune memes from the future”. Skuntle Bingoid is basically a secret boss parody and I love him
I’m incredibly surprised you didn’t mention the Metropolis AU. Missed opportunity.
SAME
< be me
< making custom chapter 3 predictions about mike.
< cowboy walks in.
My idea for a chapter 3 secret boss is like something based off of PSAs or commercials, because nobody pays attention to those
Or it could be based off cancelled tv shows
I’m so glad you brought up Dead Ringer, it’s one of my absolute favorite fan songs.
I have so many thoughts on this video, because I found it so cool! Firstly, I was the same. I loved AU music and my soundcloud had so many of them liked LMAO so most of my AU knowledge came from the music. Man, the nostalgia.
Secondly, In terms of the deltarune AUs, I like them all so much! I love to see the creativity of this fanbase returning again!
Stuff like this makes me so excited for the future and how the game will evolve. It makes me happy in a way I can't describe.
Also hello, I've never seen you before but I'm hooked
about 12:30 - i am sure the third chapter theme is television shows and stuff like that so if the secret bosses in chapters are based on things that are never used than, what type of shows/show making equipment is never used?
(okay watched a bit more of the video, and i agree with the radio idea)
This was a great video! I've also thought about the ver different au culture (is that even a thing?) between the two games! But, let me just say I love your little smug ghost guy, very squeezable.
i am so glad that youtube has recommend me this. It's been a while since i have'nt discovered a channel that makes me want to rewatch a video again ! You deserve more stats
I also feel like Deltarune has more songs to fill unused sections
Like Undertale had a song for pretty much everything
Deltarune however, did not.
Best example I can give is the Dog Couple & Tasque Manager
The Dog Couple got a song and Tasque Manager didn't
So people made songs for Tasque Manager
Obviously I'm biased since I made Electrodazzle as a filler song, but overall I still think I'm correct that Deltarune has more songs made to fit in the base game
Aw man, I’m a little sad you didn’t talk about Deltatraveler. It’s not really an AU nor is it really a “this could be a future chapter”, it was just a meme that turned into a really good (albeit still in progress) game with some equally really good music
DAMN THIS MASHUP GOES HARD
14:00
“Mix SCP-682 with a squeaky toy” lol
This video is so good that whenever it pops up, I just keep watching it.
Amazing job on the video!
14:00 just a time stamp for a banger
This was on autoplay after listening to flashygoodness music, what a blessing. Subscribed!
Deltarune AUs have serious poetintial and the amount of representation in this video is awesome, and the critics are very well done.
and the fact one of my characters and my friends are here in the video just puts a smile on my face. Thanks for making an awesome video.
"and the fact one of my characters and my friends are here in the video" Who?
Deltarune is a lot harder to make fan content for, thanks to the more complex music and sprites. However, I did make a deltarune crossover AU called "DeltaFerb", it's Deltarune + Phineas and Ferb. I already have a lot of the OST up if anyone is interested.
there's 104 days of dark world exploration